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Iowa & Iowa State areas of improvement this week, Dane Mizutani talks Vikings & Mitch Holthus on the Chiefs · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon.
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On a Wednesdays, the Iowa Sports Radio Network flagship out of
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Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KX&O.
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For the next couple of hours, Trent Condon, myself, Ken
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Miller, we'll talk sports with you and we appreciate you
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starting your afternoon here with us.
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We'll turn things over at 2:00 off the bench.
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Come Sean Robertson, Lucas train.
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They'll take you until 5. Here's what's coming up on our
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program over the next 120 minutes or thereabouts.
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We will start 1225. Dan Mazatani, St.
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Paul Pioneer Press tried to get him yesterday.
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That did not work out, but still only at 48 hours, not even old.
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We'll take a look back to Monday night and ahead to this weekend.
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Dane covers the Vikings for the Saint Paul Pioneer Press
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twincities.com. He'll join us at 12:25.
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Then the voice of the Chiefs, Mitch Holtis his weekly spots
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now that we are into the regular season.
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Mitch will join us at 12:45. Papa John's throughout the state
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of Iowa sponsored that segment. Hour number two, we'll start by
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heading to Chicago and catch up with the cap man Centurion Stone
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of Iowa sponsors. Cappy, Obviously the Bears from
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this past weekend, they will take on Detroit.
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We'll get into that. And the Cubs and there was some
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Cubs news here this morning. We'll get to that here
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momentarily. Cappy coming up at 1:00.
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Transplays of the day about 10 minutes or so before too, as we
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take you up until 2:00. How are you TC?
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Not too shabby. We're weak coming off Cyhawk
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week a week ago, and seemingly almost every moment of the shows
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was all about that for now. Six days, yeah.
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And now a couple of laughers that, at least on paper, with
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Iowa hosting UMass and Iowa State and the weird Rd. game
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down to Jonesboro, AR to take on the Red Wolves.
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Where by the way, as we were informed, parents going to be
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98° middle of the afternoon hot. Humid and take a look at that in
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the South. Might be a lot of cramping
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happening this weekend in college football across the
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landscape, but I I want to throw this to you.
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We know obviously the big storyline with Iowa, the passing
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game has been a huge issue and if there was never a week to do
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it, it's this week, right you. Would think.
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Go out there and and do some domination and Chuck it around.
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Yes. Throw it around, make some
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plays, get. Because, after all, UMass was
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beat by Bryant. Yes, this is the week to open
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that up and take it a step further for Iowa State.
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Run game hasn't been good. No, it hasn't.
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Couldn't, couldn't agree with you.
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More and the Arkansas Russian defense is brutal.
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Are they so is this kind of put up or shut up time like if we're
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going to see at minimum? For who?
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For Iowa? For both.
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For both the run game for Iowa State, the passing game of if
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there's any hope of them becoming average, OK, solid.
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Whatever adjective that you want to use for both of those
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components for Iowa and Iowa State, is this the week that it
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has to be proven that maybe there is hope for both of those
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units? If it's fair, that's fair.
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I mean this as you just laid out, I mean Arkansas State, if
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they can't stop the run, if they struggle like that, I would like
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to think that a Power Four team would go in there and be able to
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do some business on the ground. You know, when I look at this
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Iowa State team, Trent, I, I see obviously, and I agree with you,
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a running game that's struggling, a receiver game that
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is struggling. The receivers.
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Eskelsen's had some big moments, don't get me wrong, but in some
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respects it kind of mirrors what Iowa has been going through over
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the last decade or so. And yes, I mean, I I was not at
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a quarterback over the last, I don't know when, when Nate
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Stanley graduate hadn't had a quarterback that sets the world
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on fire. Iowa State has one of them
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starting on Sundays in the NFL. The other one rock go back is on
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everybody's radar when it comes to college football.
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So they've got a guy that can Chuck it around.
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But what they do have that Iowa had.
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My point I'm trying to make is Iowa relied so much on the wide
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receivers over the last decade. Iowa State's two tight ends are,
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I don't know if elite can you be?
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I mean, they're really good. They're excellent.
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They're excellent. Yes, both of them are excellent.
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So kind of mirrors Iowa's reliance on the tight ends to
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carry the passing game over the last little while.
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Mm Hmm. And it worked for Iowa.
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It did. It worked for Iowa, so maybe,
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but I'm with you on the offense. They're they're struggling to
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run the ball. Eskelson is a nice player over
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BS, two wins consistent. We haven't seen enough at a
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Townsend yet. We think he's got a little a
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little wiggle to him and so well is yet to see the field for the
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most part. Yeah, and had an opportunity for
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a catch and wasn't able to haul it in in the game against Iowa
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over the weekend. Another question, obviously
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Trevor Burr, when Iowa State's going to get him back?
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Well, did you see Campbell's? At the depth chart, he's listed
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as a starter. He was listed as a starter.
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Week 2. Right.
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And he said he's thinks he's going to play this week.
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We'll see, we'll see on that front, but if he is going to be
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an elixir to help this offensive line out, Brendan Black hasn't
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been good. No, no, that the the offensive
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line has been, is it been average?
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Average. And that's good for them.
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Yes, absolutely. Average early in the season is a
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win for them because we've heard and seen.
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Bad with our own two eyes. Early in the season, and yes,
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it's been OK at this point in time and that's OK, but you want
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to get better than that because there's going to be that game
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Rocco doesn't have in the first half.
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There's an interception. Something happens where you're
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going to have to rely not just completely in the passing game.
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And if for the first time and feels like forever, they did
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swing and miss at sole at the wide receiver position after
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just year after year after year being able to find these guys.
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And if for the first time they missed on one of these transfer
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guys, well, that changes the complexion certainly of this
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offense and what they're going to have to do.
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So I want to see it this weekend.
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Run the ball. Arkansas State is not good
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against the run. Going to be hot down there.
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But go out there, play some bully ball.
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Any concerns with this game? Just the fact that it's four
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games in a row, again, as we've said many, many times, just the
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full marks we gave their support staff to getting them back from
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Dublin and getting them over the hump as quickly as they did.
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Then they play a rivalry game as they did last week.
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And then to go on the road to take on Arkansas State, it's a
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tricky spot. I think look, Iowa State should
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be able to show up and win. I, I think the program is at
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that point where they should be able to just show up and win.
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Even if it's not, even if they're nowhere near their best,
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they should be good enough to win this football game.
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They got the they got a really good quarterback.
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They got two really good tight ends.
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It's it's time to see the running game take a step and
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what maybe it's Dylan Lee. You know, I thought maybe Dylan
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Lee might have more of a more more responsibility in the
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Cyhawk game because we certainly saw him in mop up duty against
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South Dakota. He went crazy.
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He's he was the best of running back.
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His looked at Iowa State so far this year and I think we're both
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Carson Hanson fans. He's what he is.
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He's fine, yes, and Abu Sama has we think he's got that elite
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speed, but Dylan Lee has been the one that stood out.
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Now, Flores also listed on that depth chart and I don't think
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he's going to play this week again.
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They get a buy in. I mean, in perfect world, he
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doesn't have to. They get a buy finally next week
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to lick their wounds a little bit before Arizona comes to
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calling. And that Arizona?
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Game. Yeah, I'm telling you, I've
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always had it as a tricky game. I'm not saying I I would say one
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win, right. I would say will be favored in
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the football game. We'll see.
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Let's get Anthony and then we'll move on to another.
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Anthony making some news here this morning.
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How are you, Anthony? Oh, pretty good guys.
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It's been a while since I've talked to you guys, yeah.
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Good to hear your voice, Anthony.
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Oh yeah, going back to the Iowa State game, I'm not too
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surprised about that. About that game.
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What the office is struggling and everything.
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Oh, this is the weekend is going to be start to show some
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improvement, especially the passing game.
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We still haven't seen Gradowski to throw the ball down field
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yet, but is this the weekend to do it as well when we get to the
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Big 10 season? And the second question is I
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have for you, excuse me, how this season's going to win.
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Is this offense is going to struggle as well.
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Also is this is going to be a six and six or six or seven wins
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this year or it's going to be like a four or five wins.
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And what's the injury report on those three Hawkeye players is
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going to be going to be gone for the rest of the season?
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Hey, guys, I'll hang up. Listen.
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Go, Hawks. Anthony, good to hear from you.
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You're welcome anytime. The injury front, Reese
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Vanderzee, Kamari Moulton, both those guys not going to play
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this week. We'll see if they're going to be
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available for the Friday night affair against Rutgers next
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week. But both of those guys going to
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be out. Addison Serenga out for the
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season with an Achilles injury. Definitely disappointing on that
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front. And, you know, Anthony brings up
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this point with the schedule that they still have.
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And we came into the season talking about the behemoths,
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Oregon, Penn State coming in, Indiana.
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Now, they haven't played anybody.
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Nope. But have they taken a major step
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back? Don't know.
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We'll see. They get Illinois next week.
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Before that one with them coming in, you still got rivalry games
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against Wisconsin, Minnesota and Nebraska.
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All three of them are coin flips at best.
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OK, yeah, Wisconsin's I think really bad.
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But anyways, I don't disagree. That's fine.
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I'll I'll take your way. Isn't that thing destined for
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1310? Yeah.
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Most of them are. Yeah, right.
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Yeah. So I mean that I think we're
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going to see the same game that we normally see in that game,
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and it's going to come down to a play in Camp Randall as they
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have to go on the road. Then you couple it with you
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still got to go to USC. Michigan State looks like they
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can score. They do.
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Can Iowa keep up? You know, the Indiana game, the
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Michigan State game, I was not in the spot right now they can
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win 2724. No, 3128, not from what we've
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seen. They can't do it.
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Now the good news is I think this defense, it's not
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completely repaired, but what they gave up last year, all the
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deep plays DJ Hall is playing at he's.
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Playing very well. He, we were wondering and we
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talked about a ton in the spring because Phil Parker, who doesn't
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exactly throw at accolades, he talked about he is taking that
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jump and we've seen this so many times.
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I always go back. Bradley Fletcher was one of the
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worst quarterbacks I've ever seen early in his career by a
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senior. He was excellent and they played
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in the league for like 7. Years Nick, can I throw another
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one that was bad in his early career?
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Riley Moss. There he is.
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I know you're going to Riley Moss.
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Lining up on the other side of the field from Patrick Sir Tan.
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We've seen so many of these examples, guys in their final
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year, yeah, make the leap. And it appears that DJ Hall's
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made that. Yeah, I agree with you.
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Deshaun Lee's been a lot better than I thought he was going.
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To be so far, yeah, he's been so solid.
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At minimum. MM hmm, Lutmer's run around
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making plays like him. Been impressed by Shire.
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Mm hmm. Harold is OK.
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At minimum it looks like maybe some of the issues we saw a year
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ago was just it was so uncharacteristic.
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I. Agree.
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So, but let me just let me just throw this little caveat out
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there because our we just opened the show by saying Iowa State's
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got subpar receivers. So and and I liked Hall.
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I thought he was good, but when are they going to go up?
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Was the their first real test be USC mean?
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When will they meet a group? Of well, Indiana's got some
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dudes. Do they Yeah, yeah.
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And they got a quarterback that can throw Absolutely.
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So, so well that'll that'll be a good test.
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But I think, I think the I'm with you.
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I we think that the secondary for I was better, but let's see
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when they get a real test. What's more likely, Iowa is not
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bull eligible? Four or five victories,
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something like that, or they get to an 8 or 9.
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Oh, I think it's the former, yeah.
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I think so too. And and then it just opens up a
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whole other path for conversation, right?
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All right, we are the radio show that brought you some great
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coaching ideas, like who is the Iowa State basketball coach you
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were going to bring? In flip Saunders.
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Kid Flip Saunders kid. Yeah, so.
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T JS worked out. I got something for you.
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For who for? Parents if parents walks away.
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And don't you think, let me before you, before you, lay this
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on. Yeah, there's a whopper.
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Yeah. That's good, I'm all for it.
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And don't you think he will? I don't know, I, I just, it's
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very no. No, I'm saying if it gets to
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that point, don't. I don't think he'll stay too
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long if it if he doesn't, if he sees it starting to go the way
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that his predecessor did and what it did to in some ways his
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legacy. Right.
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Right. Would Ferris be cognizant enough
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to realize, you know what, I'm just going to get off this ride
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before this ride kicks me off. If it was this year and it plays
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out in that fashion and I will finish as five and seven, let's
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just put that example. And that's not.
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Crazy with the schedule? Absolutely not.
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They finished five and seven. There's no health worries or
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anything like that. I don't think so.
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I think Kirk wouldn't want to leave on that kind of note, that
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he'd want one more chance at redemption, one more chance at a
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season. I think we'd see one more.
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But if there's more things happening, if there's internal
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thing, yes, I could see that. But just on the surface, it's a
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normal year. Brakes don't go.
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They're where all close losses ended losses they go 5:00 and
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7:00. Because the natives are going
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to. Be Oh, they will be there, there
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is no doubt. OK, so if they, if he does
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decide that, you know what, I've had a heck of a ride, it's time
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to spend more time with the with the grandkids and with Mary.
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I'm going to, I'm it's time for a change.
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And I think hockey fans would like that.
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There's a, there is, There's a you.
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Know, and I get it, I totally understand it because if you if
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you don't, you have to evolve or you're going to get left behind
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and in some ways it looks like kind of was kind of being left
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behind. So if he does leave, the floor
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is yours. All right, so every Monday and
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Friday we talk to a certain somebody based out of Alabama.
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OK, Yeah. As we know, the Natos are very
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restless in Alabama. In Tuscaloosa, Caitlin de Boer
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is owed north of $40 million. And as we're finding out now, I
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think. It's more than that.
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As we're finding out right now, Alabama, in this structure of
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college athletics doesn't have the same money.
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The Georgia's and the Texas and the Ohio States and the
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Michigan's of the world. I don't know if they have that
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buyout, but what if there is a golden parachute?
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Caitlin de Boer gets to come back to his roots, come back to
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the upper Midwest, to South Dakota.
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Guy got to start at Sioux Falls. What if there is that
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opportunity knowing he's put up or shut up next year or Alabama?
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And if it doesn't happen and they disappoint this year and go
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8:00 and 4:00 again, what if, just what if you make that phone
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call and see if it didn't work? He has no connections to the
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South. No, and you never want to be the
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guy to follow. Absolutely.
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You're following Nick Saban. Give a golden parachute.
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Here it is. You get to take a job that you
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obviously are familiar with that has had two coaches in 46 years.
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Here's your opportunity. Kaylin de Boer, come back to the
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Upper Midwest. Crazy.
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Well, not as crazy as Flip Saunders kid taking Irish state.
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But no, I mean, yeah, you would have to be on the list, you
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would think, because it doesn't seem like it's going well in
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Alabama. And I I do like his.
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I mean, he's he'd have some new ideas, some new blood.
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And again, I don't think either neither one of us wants to see
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it end badly for ferrets. But, but most of the time,
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Trent, it ends badly, right? And this is get this right.
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I'm not saying Kirk's walking away.
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No, that that's not what this is.
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People take these little snippets and and they take it
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and they run to the message boards and social media and they
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make it out something that it. And there was no plane that left
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Iowa City for Tuscaloosa. We're we're not tracking
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airplanes. No, not yet.
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Not yet. That could come November,
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December. But that aside, just a 12 file
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to the back of your mind if things don't go very well in.
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Tuscal or or next year, you know that, yes, you had this last
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year type of thing. Get in front of it, right?
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Get in front of it. Well, we shall see.
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All right, the other Anthony news we want to get to and it's
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it's been out there for a while, but Anthony Rizzo is going to
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retire this weekend as a Chicago Cub.
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Now the game retired him. To be fair, he did not get an
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opportunity. He's still making $6 million, I
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think this year as some members of the Yankees, not to play for
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them. I was kind of surprised that no
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one picked him up and gave him an opportunity.
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I would thought he would have looked really good at Fenway
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Park with that short right field, the Penske pole out there
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that. But he never got his opportunity
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to play another year. But what a career, right?
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I mean, he's always going to. At least I think it's the face
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of the 2016 World Series champion Chicago Cubs.
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I think you're right because Chris Bryant's career has not
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gone how anybody could have. Invented.
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And Kyle Schwarber at the time was not Kyle Schwarber, who hit
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his 50th last night. How about that?
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He was a young guy that we knew had power.
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Could he be a catcher? Well, don't forget how he
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started. He got hurt and was a Game 2 or
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game one out in Arizona. He blew out his knee, right?
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And he only got back for the playoffs.
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But he was the face of that team.
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He was the face of that team. You know who I mean, I, I know
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that. Hayward gets credit for the rain
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delay in the speech inside the clubhouse that turned them
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around. I pulled up the box score from
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game seven of the 2016 World Series.
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OK. How many can you name the
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starting? Can you go around the diamond or
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go around the position by position for the Cubs?
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Javi, I think you would get the infield, Rizzo.
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Javi. Bryant.
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Yep. Addison Russell.
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Yep. Do you remember what Addison
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Russell did in that year? They needed 40 and 100.
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Is that what it was? It's.
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Something crazy like I I know he drove in 100 runs or 90
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something runs. I think he did just something
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that he never good would have got close to again.
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What a fall from grace. Right.
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But brought on by himself, to be fair.
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I mean, that's domestic abuse. Schwarber.
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Schwarber, Fowler. See, I would have missed that
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one, but you're right. And.
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The Swiss Army knife played played a lot of places.
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A lot of places. Think his wife might have?
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Suddenly had them. In one of the.
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Games. I can't think of his name.
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Ben. Zobrist.
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He was here last week or two weeks ago at Principal Park and
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wife. Wife cheated on him, yeah.
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She did. There was.
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Something weird there. And then Rossi behind the plate.
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And Rossi behind the plate. Yeah, and Contreras too.
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I was he. Split in time maybe?
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I think they were split in time, Kyle.
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Kyle Hendricks started game seven.
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He was followed by John Lester. OK Chapman pitched in that game
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and then I did not remember this.
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Who was who was on the mound for the final out.
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The ball was hit to Chris Bryant, who had a big smile on
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his face as he looked at Anthony Rizzo and chucked it over.
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And the celebration was on. Mike Montgomery.
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Remember the lefty? You could have given me a
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billion dollars. And you could have given me the
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same way. I didn't know that Carlos
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Santana was on that team. Are they Indians?
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Napoli, Ramirez, Raja Davis had a big hit in that game.
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Jan Gomes was on that team behind the plate.
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Kluber pitched, you know, the final pitcher in the game for
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the at the time, Indians was. Hernandez.
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No, he's been kind of kicked out of baseball.
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Oh, Trevor Bauer, Trevor Power. I was thinking when he cut his
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hand on the the fly thing before the playoffs start.
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Remember that? No Bauer did that.
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Yes, on the fly thing. The the the fan.
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No. Well, the thing that flies in
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the air, I can't think of what it's called.
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The the drone. Yes, I think that was Trevor
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Bauer. Yeah, unbelievable.
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But Rizzo is calling it a year. I'm calling it a call it a
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career and calling it a year. And they'll honor him.
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Yeah, 2016 missed a playoff start.
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I had that. Give me Addison Russell's
20:37
numbers. Addison Russell, I think he had
20:39
40 and 100. I don't know why I think that.
20:42
I know he drove in a lot. 40 seems like a lot for him.
20:45
Addison Russell Duh, duh. Duh's Career Stats Here we go 2.
20:49
1016 How many RBI? 95.
20:51
Shoot, I missed it. Only 21 home.
20:53
Runs. It wasn't close.
20:55
You're close to 100. Yeah, yeah.
20:58
We'll take a time out. We'll come back.
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We will be joined by Dane Mazatani.
21:02
Mitch Holt is still to come. Miller and Cotton, By the way,
21:05
Speaking of the Cubs, Kathy will join us at one.
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It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network flagship on Des Moines
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sports station One O 6.3 KXNO coming up on 1230.
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Welcome back Miller and Condon. Iowa Sports Radio network.
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The voice radio voice of the Kansas City Chiefs.
21:23
Mitch Holt is coming up in 15 minutes.
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Before we get to Dane Mazatani, just real quick caller reminded
21:30
me that Carl Edwards started the final inning. 140 lbs soaking
21:34
wet he. Request wasn't he probably 6162
21:37
seemed like had some high to him but boy.
21:39
Spindly. Yes he was very much so.
21:41
Got the 1st 2 outs and then Montgomery came in and sealed
21:44
it. Here's Dane Mazatani spent
21:46
Monday night Soldier Field in Chicago watching the Vikings
21:49
come from behind to pick off those Chicago Bears in an NFC
21:53
North battle. Dame Trenton, Ken, thank you for
21:55
finding a few minutes for us. Really was a tale of two games.
21:58
Did you had you started your your game recap or your game
22:03
story at any point and had to hit delete and re and redo once
22:07
that fourth quarter came around? Yeah, I can't lie.
22:10
I had the story written about how JJ McCarthy face plants and
22:15
his NFL debut in his hometown. But I did have a sneaky
22:21
suspicion that he wasn't done. And I say that because you
22:25
talked to enough people about this kid, and they'll talk to
22:28
you about his moxie, about how he's a gamer, about how he rises
22:32
to the occasion when the moment really calls for it.
22:35
So I had an inkling that they keep letting the Vikings hang
22:39
around. There might be a chance for JJ
22:41
McCarthy to do something special.
22:43
And fair enough, that's what happened.
22:44
And the Bears did not put the Vikings to bed and left that
22:48
door open, and JJ McCarthy came storming through.
22:51
And what a day it was, man. Got the right guy as the
22:55
offensive coordinator slash head coach in KOC defense was
22:58
outstanding. I mean you get this one that
23:00
felt for 3/4 like you were dead on arrival and suddenly it just
23:04
as completely changes the complexion.
23:06
I I think of this team, what's closer to reality and what we're
23:09
going to see maybe the rest of just this season, the 1st 3/4 or
23:12
what we saw in the fourth quarter, knowing it's probably
23:15
going to be somewhere in between.
23:17
Yeah, I think the correct answer is probably somewhere in
23:19
between. I think we'll probably ride that
23:21
roller coaster throughout the year.
23:23
But I do think in the aggregate, they'll end up looking a lot
23:26
more like the team that finished that game than the team that
23:29
started that game. I think when you look at how
23:32
that game started, you can almost explain it away in a lot
23:37
of ways. Nerves.
23:39
NFL debut 30 minutes from where you grew up, hostile
23:42
environment. I don't know if I've heard if
23:44
I've heard soldier feels much louder than it was on Monday
23:47
night. They were juiced up in there and
23:51
to do all of those things. And you know, I think Kevin
23:55
O'Connell was trying to ease McCarthy into it.
23:58
The struggles made sense from a kind of a macro perspective.
24:02
But I think as you saw the game kind of wear on, as he loosened
24:07
up a little bit, as he kind of found his sea legs, you saw what
24:10
this team could look like. Doesn't mean, look, they're
24:13
going to score on every possession the rest of the way.
24:16
Doesn't mean he's not going to look like a rookie at some
24:18
point. But I think the early stage
24:21
struggles, it made sense, and once he found his rhythm, once
24:25
he kind of knocked those nerves away, you saw what this team
24:28
could really look like. Adam Thielen was not targeted,
24:31
maybe one target other than the two point conversion that he
24:34
caught, but during the during the regular time, he was not,
24:38
did not catch a pass. Is that just, is he behind?
24:41
Has the offense changed or is this just, you know, it wasn't,
24:45
it wasn't his day to be a primary target.
24:47
What the What's going on with Thielen?
24:50
Yeah, I think part of that comes from he arrived a week and a
24:54
half ago or a week and a half before the start of the season
24:57
and he's probably playing a little bit of catch up with the
24:59
offense. As smart as he is, as long as
25:01
he's done this, the offense has changed since he's been in
25:04
Minnesota. So I think there was always
25:06
going to be a little bit of a ramp up process for him.
25:10
But I think if you look across the board, I mean, there weren't
25:12
the most prolific offensive stats.
25:15
JJ McCarthy completed 13 passes on Monday night, so there wasn't
25:18
a lot of reps to go around. Dustin Jefferson had four
25:21
catches for 40 something yards and and a touchdown.
25:25
He did Hawkinson, I think he had three catches for for 16 yards.
25:28
But it's not like everyone else was eating and Adam Thielen was
25:32
kind of left by the wayside. I think the way the game kind of
25:36
happened for the 3/4 for 45 minutes of game time, there
25:41
wasn't a lot of juice on offense, not a lot of reps to go
25:44
around, not a lot of naps. When you when you look at how
25:48
many plays the offensive players had, it's not a lot of snaps to
25:52
go around. So I expect feeling at some
25:54
point will will look a little bit more like the feeling that
25:57
we know and not the feeling catching one or dropping a pass
26:01
and catching A2 point conversion.
26:02
I think that's just kind of a slow ramp up period.
26:05
I think the offense as a whole will end up looking a lot
26:08
better, you know, first month of the season and and beyond.
26:12
Getting Christian Gerasaw back will help us.
26:14
Goal didn't have a great night out there and you can see why.
26:16
He's a swing tackle and he's going to be in there as an
26:18
injury replacement. But rest of the offensive line I
26:21
thought held up pretty well. Darasaw coming back and also one
26:24
of the leaders of the team, Harrison Smith.
26:26
Where's the what's the latest on both of those guys in their
26:28
return? Yeah, we'll get updates today
26:31
from an injury perspective. They the Vikings have to release
26:34
an injury report today or this afternoon.
26:37
I know they're going for a walk through practice, so it won't be
26:40
super indicative. It'll probably be more of an
26:42
estimation on the injury report. I think Darasaw is close.
26:47
I saw him going through a pregame workout on the field
26:51
with offensive line coach Chris Cooper on Monday night.
26:54
I thought there was a chance. So I think he's getting close.
26:57
They obviously held him out. They're going to operate with an
27:00
abundance caution there because he's so important and you want
27:04
to make sure when he is back he's 100%.
27:07
But I think he's close. We'll see what the injury report
27:09
says today. And Harrison Smith, I saw in
27:12
that practice last week that there's there's improvements on
27:15
that, that standpoint. He wasn't practicing or game
27:18
training camp. He is practicing now.
27:20
I think it's something along the lines of you want a guy to get
27:24
reps before you just go throw them in.
27:26
I know he's been doing this for a million years, but at the same
27:29
time, to go from not practicing to playing in an NFL game is
27:34
pretty tough. So I think if he can log a few
27:37
practices this week, he'll have a chance for Sunday night.
27:39
It seems as though they found their punt returner Miles Price
27:43
looks as though he has a future at that position when he came
27:46
close to breaking one. Looks like that may happen at
27:49
some point this year. They have to be pleased with
27:51
what they've got from the Indiana rookie.
27:54
Yeah, he's got some juice. I really think if you go back
27:58
and look, there's probably not a punt returner that has shown
28:02
this much juice since Marcus Cheryl, the guy who did it for
28:05
10 something years. So the Vikings have lauded Miles
28:09
Price throughout training camp. He's a guy who just kind of came
28:12
in a little wide eyed undrafted free agent and kept making
28:17
plays, kept doing things that made you say, OK, yeah, this guy
28:22
is going to be the starting punt returner.
28:24
I think if if he didn't look as good as he did through the
28:28
practices in the preseason games, obviously the Vikings
28:32
would have gone out and they would have found a veteran who's
28:34
done this before. I think it's a lot to ask for an
28:37
undrafted free agent to do that role.
28:39
You have to have a little bit of crazy when you have to just sit
28:42
there and have people barreling down on you.
28:45
But the way miles price performed this summer, he forced
28:49
their hand, you know, they, they had to make them the starting
28:51
point returner because he earned it.
28:53
He earned the right to do that this fall.
28:56
And they're they're obviously paying reaping the benefits of
28:59
that right now with how he looked in week 1, he was
29:02
dynamic. You're right.
29:03
I think at some point he's going to break 1.
29:06
He just seems to have that wiggle to make the first guy
29:08
miss and that burst that you need in the open field.
29:11
So they they found a diamond in the rough with Miles Price and I
29:15
expect tend to be the partner Turner for a while.
29:17
Last thing for me, mentioned this a year ago with Brian
29:20
Flores and the likelihood that it's going to be difficult for
29:23
him to get a head coaching job just with the litigation that
29:26
has continued to happen and the Vikings are set up incredibly
29:30
well. What do we know about the
29:31
relationship between Flores and KOC and what very well could be
29:35
a partnership you'd think for the next couple of years at
29:37
minimum? Yeah, I know.
29:39
They love working together. They seem to complement each
29:41
other in a way that both kind of need.
29:44
I think Slow loves calling the defense, O'Connell loves calling
29:48
the offense. And if you're a head coach like
29:51
you are for as Kevin O'Connell and you focus a lot of your time
29:55
on the offense, it helps to have a guy like Brian Flores who can
30:00
just kind of take that defense and mold it in the way that he
30:03
wants. So it's a great partnership.
30:05
I think that's a great word, Trent.
30:07
They work together. They understand Indian
30:10
situations, what the other one needs.
30:13
I think it's it's good on Flores to be a former head coach and
30:18
able to kind of take that delegation.
30:20
But I think it's good on O'Connell too, to be a head
30:23
coach and be OK kind of giving one of your assistants carp lots
30:27
to do whatever he wants on that side of the ball.
30:30
So I think it's a perfect marriage right now.
30:34
I think at some point, Brian Flores is going to want to be a
30:37
head coach in the NFL again. Will that happen?
30:41
I don't know. Maybe he'll just kind of run the
30:43
role, you know, similar to Steve Spagnola up in Kansas City where
30:48
Spagnola was a great defensive coordinator, mediocre head coach
30:54
and his kind of ended his career as a as the best defensive
30:57
coordinator out there. So if Flores does not get
31:00
another head coaching job does not mean he can't be paid
31:03
handsomely as a top tier assistant.
31:05
Yeah, Victoria Fangio, Vance Joe, what's the name?
31:09
The Vance Joseph, right in in Denver.
31:11
Yeah, 22 real quick away from the Vikings.
31:14
We've got 60 seconds left, so I'll ask you both at the same
31:16
time. I have to believe Roccobelly's
31:19
Rocco Bell Deli's in his final couple of weeks is the Twin
31:21
skipper. And then Caprisoff turned down
31:24
an opportunity to become the highest NHL play paid player
31:27
ever here today. Caprisoff What's going on there
31:31
in his Bell Deli on his last days as skipper of the Twins.
31:35
Yeah, I'm curious about Baldelli just because I think it's not
31:39
been his fault. Totally.
31:40
They they took away all his good players.
31:42
He set them up on that run a couple of years ago and they
31:45
they cut payroll. So if he's around next season, I
31:49
guess that wouldn't totally surprise me.
31:50
Karo Capresov. Look, I I saw the report.
31:55
I know people are going to freak out that he turned down more
31:58
money than anyone's ever made in the NHLII think it really comes
32:02
down to probably something along the lines of, you know, there's
32:05
going to be a new CBA at some point.
32:07
Do you want to lock in to $8 million a year or do you want to
32:10
lock into eight years at a certain specific dollar value?
32:15
I think the caps going to keep going up.
32:16
I think contracts are going to keep going up.
32:18
I think it's the prudent business decision to sign
32:21
another small, medium length deal.
32:24
And if you can get to that next contract when they continue to
32:26
boom, the contracts are not plateauing, they're only
32:29
growing. So I think if you lock yourself
32:32
in at 8 years at 16 mil, yeah, I mean, I'd love $16,000,000 for
32:36
the next 8-8 years. But I think right now it's
32:40
probably something that business decisions probably take a
32:43
shorter deal and wait for the money to keep going up.
32:46
I was hoping he'd say he's leaving the Central Division in
32:48
10 somewhere else. I couldn't get that lucky.
32:51
Dave, thanks for what you do for us.
32:52
I appreciate it, as always. We'll talk to you in the weeks
32:54
ahead. Thank you, Dane.
32:56
Anytime, guys. Yeah.
32:57
Good to talk to you. Dane.
32:58
Mizatani, St. Paul, Pioneer Press.
33:00
Mitch Holtis, next voice of the Chiefs.
33:02
Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:05
Hi, Miller and Condon. Welcome back.
33:06
Let's get right to Mitch Holtis, radio voice of the Kansas City
33:10
Chiefs. Game of the week is at Gia
33:13
Field, Arrowhead Stadium. Eagles, Chiefs 325 on Fox or on
33:21
the radio on the Chiefs Radio Network with this guy, Mitch
33:24
Holtis. Hello, Mitch Trenton, Ken, how
33:26
are you? Yeah.
33:27
What's going on? You guys trying to figure it out
33:31
O and one coming back from Brazil, so and then you get to
33:34
try to fix it against the Eagles.
33:36
This is not easy. You know, I'll say did them no
33:39
favors, no question about it. Somebody yesterday mentioned the
33:42
fact that that the Eagles went a day before to Brazil knowing how
33:47
the game. Yeah, sorry, the Chargers, yes,
33:50
went a day day earlier. Did that.
33:53
Was that a factor at all? Would if Andy Reid could, would
33:56
could do it again? Would they go early or did he
33:59
bring that up at all? No, he didn't bring it up.
34:02
Let me tell you. Why are they in our logistics?
34:05
People did. Our folks did an incredible job.
34:10
I told you before, it's just super hard for any of the 32
34:12
teams. You're moving a small army and
34:14
basically kind of deploying them for a short amount of time, but
34:19
you also rely on third parties to try to help you out.
34:22
For whatever reason, we were detained on the tarmac after we
34:25
got on the plane in Kansas City for 2 1/2 hours.
34:29
Before we flew 10 1/2 hours to Sao Paulo.
34:33
Now do the math. Now you're 12 hours, you lose 2
34:36
hours. Now you're at 14.
34:38
Took about an hour to get through customs.
34:39
Sao Paulo's the 4th largest city in the world until Los Angeles.
34:44
Hold my beer. OK, so then you've got about an
34:48
hour and a half two hour commute to the hotel.
34:50
Then ended up being about a 17 or 18 hour day.
34:53
Now, that was not on the script. And then Brazil's just got some
35:01
things to figure out what that game and the league does because
35:05
the Chargers stayed really close to Arena, Arena Corinthians.
35:09
But the Chiefs were basically, I would tell you, it would be like
35:13
they were in going to Iowa City to play a game on the day of the
35:17
game, but then you're in traffic.
35:19
I just think of the traffic on I-80 going to the IndyCar race
35:22
when I was doing that with Hyvee and that's what you're in for
35:27
like 2 hours on the day of the game.
35:29
It just it's clunky a little bit.
35:32
So I just think there's some things to now that sounds like
35:34
excuses. Coach would slap my hand, but
35:38
I'm just telling you what's fact here.
35:41
I just think that when you rely on some third parties, they got
35:44
to come through with you as well.
35:46
Be nice if somebody like the Dolphins was on the schedule
35:48
this week. Instead, it's the defending
35:50
champion of Philadelphia Eagles that you're going to see.
35:53
Or won 15 straight games when Hurts isn't.
35:56
Hurts is healthy start to finish, yeah.
35:57
That absolutely crazy. What do you do?
36:02
I mean, it's a short week, though.
36:03
It wasn't a short week. He has to get the two extra
36:05
days, but still coming back here and he got this behemoth here
36:09
and and the revenge factor also. I mean, they're not going to
36:11
come out and say it, but it definitely has to be lingering
36:14
in the minds of the players. Well, it's hard to fix things
36:19
against a team like the Eagles because they love to play games
36:23
on their own terms. Meaning, I mean, K State's gone
36:26
through this after they lost Iowa State.
36:27
They're trying to fix it on the fly coming back from Ireland,
36:31
just like it was much very similar to the Brazil game.
36:33
But then you can then you play army when you're trying to
36:35
figure it out. That's not the team to play
36:37
because you just Philadelphia will hold the ball, hold the
36:40
ball and Hertz is so good now as a runner. 57 career touchdown
36:45
rushing by a quarterback that's the most in NFL history, 52 in
36:49
the last four years. Hertz has just become so
36:52
impactful runner and thrower. He didn't throw much against
36:56
Dallas. Where the Chiefs have to
36:58
counter. You asked is somehow the Chiefs
37:00
have to change and dictate terms to the Eagles early on.
37:05
I sent you some sound one guy that's key, particularly with
37:08
Xavier Worthy injured and Rushy rice suspended.
37:13
You're down to could be 3 of Jalen Royals.
37:15
Is that again, but the key is Juju Smith Shuster.
37:18
Listen to his answer. I'll explain it is this is one
37:20
of the ways you can win this game because I called Juju Smith
37:23
Shuster the door hinge. What does that mean?
37:26
I'll let him explain it. It helps our team to be
37:29
successful and win. I'm down to do it, but and those
37:33
aggressive catches, man, like those are the ones you want.
37:35
I think the easy ones that come and go, you know that you got to
37:38
have those. But at the end of the day, when
37:39
you get those tough ones where it's dirty, 4:30 and 5:00 and
37:42
you need to make a play, that's where you go to.
37:44
And then you talk about the door hinge.
37:45
Door hinge is something I take pride in, right?
37:49
Someone who knows man versus zone and how to pick and how to,
37:53
you know, reroute for leverage is huge.
37:55
And I've learned that a lot here being under this offense.
38:00
In Andy's offense, I saw it with Jason Avantis first year, there
38:03
has to be a door hinge guy. He sets the triangle, opens the
38:06
door for others where he makes the tough play, but she's had to
38:10
sustain drives. They almost have to turn the
38:12
cannon on the Eagles in this game and do it initially.
38:15
They've got to attack from the beginning and give some level of
38:18
discomfort to the Eagles because the Eagles love to spend all day
38:22
making you feel uncomfortable. Juju Smith Schuster becomes very
38:26
key in this game, particularly considering the circumstances
38:29
and the opponent. Shamari Connor, it seems like
38:33
his light bulb going on. Mitch seemingly he was all over
38:35
the field in Brazil, LED the the team in tackles if memory
38:39
serves. What's going on there have to be
38:41
positive with the with how they're viewing him as of late.
38:46
Yeah, I mean he got burned 7 times.
38:48
That was the most in week one in the National Football League.
38:51
Things have got to be better there.
38:53
You also have to win on 1st down against the Eagles.
38:57
But third down has been a problem for the Chiefs
38:59
defensively and this carries over 2 last year, even when they
39:03
were on the run prior to losing Super Bowl 59.
39:06
So 3rd down especially long because it was torture against
39:11
the Chargers. Again, third and seven, they get
39:13
9. Third and six, they get 8.
39:15
Then they get the 3rd and 14 at the end for 19 to win the game.
39:19
But anyway, it's you've got to win on 1st down and you've got
39:25
to know your assignment, but you've got to keep them out of
39:27
third short because that's automatic.
39:30
They had five third and threes or last against the Cowboys and
39:33
they converted all 5. It's just what they do.
39:36
So yeah, they're like playing a really talented Military Academy
39:42
version in the NFL. Speaking of automatic.
39:44
Can I? Yeah.
39:45
Go ahead. Can I say something real quick?
39:47
Yeah. OK.
39:47
Cooper De Jean had to pick six against us.
39:49
Yeah. Here's something I've got with
39:51
Iowa schools. He went to OABCIG High School.
39:54
Yes. Right.
39:56
Yes. Last night in volleyball they
39:57
played MVA0C 0U. Nice.
40:01
Alphabet suit. OABCIGMVAOCOU we got spirit, how
40:06
about you? Wow.
40:08
Ken Miller High School. Let's do that.
40:10
About that, I'm all for it. Let's music's playing, Let's the
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We'll talk to you in a week. Thank you, Mitch Holtis.
40:31
Thank you brother. Yeah, good to talk to Mitch
40:32
Holt, this Voice of the Chiefs hour to his next.
40:34
Cappy kicks it off Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
40:39
Network.