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BEEF REF Mike Defee reveals what it's really like to be a referee
Chris Vannini and David Ubben are joined by officiating coordinator Mike Defee, who reveals what it's really like to be a referee, what he wishes fans understood, and his reaction to the "Beef Ref" nickname. The guys also discuss news around the Pac-12, Sacramento State, Thomas Castellanos' trash talk and a lawsuit to watch.
Chris' story in The Athletic on the state of officiating
0:00 Intro and dogs
3:45 Pac-12, Sac State, Castellanos, key lawsuit news
18:30 Mike Defee joins the show
23:55 Why refs have to set the tone with players
27:12 The hardest plays to officiate
30:13 Dealing with…
The skinny
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