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#547 - Millyz · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'all, what's up as Millie's check me out
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  Speaker 1: on the Butleg CAV Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, let's get into the interview Bootleg CAV Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Man special guests in here. My brother representing Massachusetts, my dog,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest Celtics fan in the world, wearing a Sun's
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  Speaker 2: jersey today.
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  Speaker 1: For you, Millies, for you. We're for you only because
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  Speaker 1: you're not competitive. If you were competitive, I would have
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  Speaker 1: never wre this jersey today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I got so much love in my heart for you. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Get a ball, Steve, Steve nash Man a great, a
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  Speaker 1: great white basketball player all time. White for sure is
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  Speaker 1: a great way.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta put him up on a white mount rushing
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  Speaker 2: for the NBA time MVP.
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  Speaker 1: He is a great way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. How's everything been though? Man? New albums out?
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  Speaker 1: Blanco seven, Yeah, B seven, seventh Installment.
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  Speaker 2: When do you stop this thing?
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  Speaker 1: Ten? I was going to stop it at I was
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  Speaker 1: going to stop it at seven, but like now I'm like, yeah, ten.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like ten.
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  Speaker 1: Like Blanco, Yeah, because I literally get bigger in my
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  Speaker 1: career every time I drop one of them. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the process of dropping a Blanco album just propels me
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  Speaker 1: in my career. And it's the music I love working on.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, it's kind of theme based music.
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  Speaker 2: So it's what's the difference for you, Like between like
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  Speaker 2: a Holy Water and like working on a Blanco like
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  Speaker 2: is it.
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  Speaker 1: Like like the Blancos. I want to make sure it's
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  Speaker 1: a balance of melodic records, pain records, my essential MILLI
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  Speaker 1: sound like if you go to YouTube and you go
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  Speaker 1: to Millie's type beat, you'll see hundreds of thousands of
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  Speaker 1: millions type beats like I got my own, you know
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  Speaker 1: style that I created in that sense, So I keep
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  Speaker 1: that type of music heavy on the Blanco series, but
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  Speaker 1: then I keep a good balance of melodic records, and
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  Speaker 1: then I try to get you know, the A list
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  Speaker 1: type features right, and it's it's just a formula to it.
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  Speaker 1: Where Holy Water is that was just like a darker album.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah uh you obviously you start to talking about big features.
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  Speaker 2: This this album's got meek mill And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: Jada Kiss had one of the craziest punchlines to kick
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  Speaker 2: off the album.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah you called that where he was talking about
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  Speaker 1: the patt the top of your Yeah, he said you
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  Speaker 1: could try waiting and you could die hating, get your
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  Speaker 1: head tapped, shock clock violation, And when he said it,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it was a dope line, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: get your head tapped, like yeah, but then he's like
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  Speaker 1: yeating know the reps, they tap their heads when it's
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  Speaker 1: a shock.
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  Speaker 2: Yesh, so good bro. Yeah, but talk about work because
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  Speaker 2: obviously now meet's independent, So I feel like it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot easier because you're an independent artist. Yeah. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like like it's probably a lot easier for you to
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  Speaker 2: work with somebody when they're independent than like dealing with
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  Speaker 2: the major label ship getting that shit cleared, like because
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  Speaker 2: you might fuck with an artist and they might fuck
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  Speaker 2: with you. But then when it comes to time for
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  Speaker 2: the record to come out, especially if you want to
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  Speaker 2: do the primary artist thing and all that explain like
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  Speaker 2: like connecting with Meek and.
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  Speaker 1: Well I connected with them through Garcy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Garcy is like my.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, like long time, like we've been tied in and
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  Speaker 1: Meek Mill that was like a bucket list record for
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  Speaker 1: me for sure, for sure because he's man can Drake
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  Speaker 1: Cole Meek you know that's really that they'll probably try
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  Speaker 1: to leave him out of some of those or Drake
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  Speaker 1: you know that whole conversation. He's the street rapper right
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  Speaker 1: out of that that really put out you know, classic
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  Speaker 1: bodies of work. Man. A lot of people that might
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  Speaker 1: be the last street rapper who was like a superstar.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And I mean, like you said, the classic bodies
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  Speaker 2: of work is all those dream chasers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dream chases tastes down to the albums though, Yeah, Championships, Championships.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's his best body. I love so good.
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  Speaker 1: I told him, I like I like the intro and
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  Speaker 1: championships more than dreams of nightma.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Meek is a perfect example too of
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  Speaker 2: like once you hit a certain level of success, like
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  Speaker 2: hip hop fans are so finicky, bro, yeah, because it's
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  Speaker 2: like he got so big and was like rubbing rubbing
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  Speaker 2: shoulders with like the biggest motherfuckers like outside of hip
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  Speaker 2: hop billionaires and like yeah, and it's people try to
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  Speaker 2: use that ship against him. It's like, Yo, isn't this
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  Speaker 2: the goal? Like shouldn't you want to like elevate and
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  Speaker 2: get out of the trenches remove yourself from situations in which, like.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 1: The very famous friend of mine from uh my area
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  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, he told me say, yeah, people like you
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  Speaker 1: to do good, just they don't like you to do
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  Speaker 1: too good? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Is that Mark Warberg.
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  Speaker 1: Ship?
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  Speaker 2: Like that shout out to Mark Welberg. Yeah, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's true. Have you. Have you dealt with that at all?
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  Speaker 2: Because oh, for sure, obviously you're like very successful, but
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  Speaker 2: you're still kind of like underground.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm so I'm underground in the whole scheme
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  Speaker 1: of things like nationally, you know, but like in my city,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of my state. I'm like the big fish
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  Speaker 1: and the small for sure. So I take I take
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  Speaker 1: all the hate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like the like why aren't you doing more?
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  Speaker 1: Why it doesn't matter they move the goal post every time.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's interesting because I've been in that
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  Speaker 2: same position in Arizona where it's like, yeah, how much else?
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  Speaker 2: Like what is like what do you'll want me to do?
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  Speaker 2: Matter how many Arizona rappers come on my showing rap
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  Speaker 2: like it ain't never enough.
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  Speaker 1: I pray I pray that five six seven artists could
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  Speaker 1: pop at the same time, kind of like how Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Is, right, you know, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Then I could just do my thing with immunity and
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  Speaker 1: be fine, you know, without people, you know, watching every
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  Speaker 1: move I'm making, being like it's man, it's his fault
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not further in my career, Like that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what they think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Because the approach that mind state will
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  Speaker 2: have you fucked up for the rest of your life
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  Speaker 2: if you if you always are looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bitch azz mind state too. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: bitch azz mind state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If your point got to be a man man like
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  Speaker 1: nobody like my me. Being lit does not dim your
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  Speaker 1: light at all. You know, it's enough money for all
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  Speaker 1: of us. It's enough. It's enough abundance for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: And what I'm doing and got nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing. Hell no, And yeah you got to.
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  Speaker 1: Take if anything it could, it could big get ship up,
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  Speaker 1: like in the case of like Joanne and Lucas. He's
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  Speaker 1: a big rapper from where I'm from. Of course, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's from like an hour from where I'm from. But
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  Speaker 1: it's the same, yeah, but it's the same thing. And
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  Speaker 1: he got a huge fan base, bro, And that benefited
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  Speaker 1: me because us being from the same backyard pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: He put me on tour, you know, and put money
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  Speaker 1: in my pocket and put me in front of a
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  Speaker 1: huge fan base. And that's because we're from Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 2: And Wi you were coming up, you wasn't hating on him,
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  Speaker 2: being like, yo, why is Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't hating it, and he never he
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  Speaker 1: never rea out to me or nothing. We had like
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  Speaker 1: other shit, you know, going on, but it was like
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  Speaker 1: I never ever hated publicly, no matter what if I
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  Speaker 1: seen them at the Grammys. It's just not in my
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  Speaker 1: heart to see somebody from Massachusetts at the Grammys and
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  Speaker 1: not go wow, this is crazy on the internet and
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  Speaker 1: put it up like that'll never be, you know, not
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  Speaker 1: in my heart to do. Man, I want six or
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  Speaker 1: seven to win to the utmost. That's why you can
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  Speaker 1: never catch me down in somebody because I really want,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want Massachusetts to win man highest level.
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  Speaker 2: There's like a false narrative too that like people can
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  Speaker 2: gate keep other other people from succeeding. I'm like, yo, fuck, no,
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  Speaker 2: the internet exists. You have a direct yea option at
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  Speaker 2: all times. You should look in the mirror and figure
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  Speaker 2: out the things that you're not doing to resonate with
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  Speaker 2: people with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's almost no excuses a rapper now, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna break it down like right, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: what would be what would be a hindrance to a
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  Speaker 1: rapper making it right now? Like if you were let's say, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Say let's say most rappers would be like, they would
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  Speaker 2: look at how hard it is to get on a
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  Speaker 2: playlist because they think that that's the only thing that
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  Speaker 2: matters a lot of small minded.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's playlist. And let me tell you something. I
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  Speaker 1: got a line. I got a line on my thing
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  Speaker 1: and I love I got a song called what If
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  Speaker 1: I told you and on it and this is no
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  Speaker 1: I listen. I love Spotify. I have nothing against Spotiforse,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at my shit, it says one percent
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  Speaker 1: or zero percent editorial playlisting. I'm me at this height
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  Speaker 1: of my career. I done had all the features and
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  Speaker 1: all of that. I don't care. I'm not mad at them.
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  Speaker 1: Carl Cherry, y'all, I'm still waiting. It's fine. I got
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  Speaker 1: nothing but love for y'all in my heart. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep working. I don't give a fuck. That don't make
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  Speaker 1: me or break me. I still got love. But I
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  Speaker 1: got a line. I said, what if I told you?
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  Speaker 1: Spotify don't put me on a playlist. But in the trenches,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so famous. They treat me like I'm a list.
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  Speaker 1: It's all right, Like you don't need a playlist, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need you don't need a playlist to propel. You
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  Speaker 1: need the internet, man is phone you get clicking off
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  Speaker 1: your phone, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to make music that resonates with people,
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  Speaker 2: and that's how you build a flock, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like we've been I've been watching you dog
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  Speaker 2: for like ten years, slowly chipping away at this shit.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and that's what it is, like a slow
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  Speaker 1: and steady build. But like my thing to any artist
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  Speaker 1: would be like you have the option to get your phone.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you're a whatever type of rapper you are,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things hold rappers back.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't got the clothes, you know, I don't got
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  Speaker 1: the outfit to do it well. People like the genuine
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  Speaker 1: struggle too. You could, I believe somebody could blow up
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  Speaker 1: wearing dunkin Donuts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you you wear a wife beater for the
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  Speaker 2: most part too. You could wear a.
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  Speaker 1: Wife beater or or if you're playing with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, let me tell you something you
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  Speaker 1: don't need. You don't need a camera man. You don't
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  Speaker 1: need a professional camera man. You just need an iPhone
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  Speaker 1: maybe an android. You know you need you need a
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  Speaker 1: you need a decent phone with a decent camera. If
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  Speaker 1: you got a couple thousand dollars, go to Sacks fifth
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  Speaker 1: if you want to look. I'm not saying like super
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  Speaker 1: fake it to you make it, but you know, get
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  Speaker 1: a get a decent outfit. Man, throw that shit on.
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  Speaker 1: Go put the phone up. You could record the song
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  Speaker 1: off your phone. Is forty dollars to record a song without.
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  Speaker 2: City three baby was recorded on iPhone exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: So you put the phone up. You got your new outfit,
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  Speaker 1: go wrap the song man, return that outfit, get your
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  Speaker 1: money back. Now you got your clip. Now when you
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  Speaker 1: post that shit, send it to you know, fifteen to
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  Speaker 1: your friends. At the same time, put a group chat.
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  Speaker 1: Let's push this at each fifteen people, send it to
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  Speaker 1: another fifteen people and just see what happens. And do
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  Speaker 1: that seventy times. Yeah, and if you're good, I bet
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  Speaker 1: you something to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's If it's good though, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Put out, put out, you know, put out? How volume work? Man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Not for sure? What you would you say that
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  Speaker 2: at what point in time? Because you've had a long
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  Speaker 2: journey in this music ship. What point in time, do
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  Speaker 2: you feel like the rubber finally started to hit the
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  Speaker 2: pavement In terms of you feeling like, okay, I'm cutting through.
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  Speaker 2: This is working.
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  Speaker 1: The rubber hitting the pavement fucked me.
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  Speaker 2: Up, bro Okay, the tire hitting the.
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  Speaker 3: The tire, I was like, I can't Jesus Christ, Hey, yo,
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  Speaker 3: you fucking East Coast guys.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm just the saying you're talking about, Like we're
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  Speaker 1: in a real serious conversation, Like you.
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  Speaker 2: What what was the question I was asking? Obviously there's
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  Speaker 2: been a long journey for you music. Yeah, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: always this, you know. I'm sure there was times where
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  Speaker 2: you maybe thought about fucking giving up. At what point
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  Speaker 2: in time was the traction real enough where you felt like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is something that I got to pour more into.
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  Speaker 2: This is working.
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  Speaker 1: So a Beanie Seagull line is what changed my mind forever.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of rap, he said, play your cards, go
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  Speaker 1: against all odds, shoot.
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  Speaker 2: For the moon.
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  Speaker 1: If you miss, you're still amongst those stars. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought about it, like, man, you know, I'm a really
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  Speaker 1: talented rapper and I love being around this music. Shit,
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  Speaker 1: if I just keep doing my thing, even if I'm
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  Speaker 1: not at the moon. I'll be around the stars and
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  Speaker 1: I meaning people as stars, but just you know, the
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  Speaker 1: opportunities and things like that. And that's when I committed
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  Speaker 1: to just I'm gonna do this until until it burns out.
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  Speaker 1: There was a point I never thought I would make
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  Speaker 1: money from it, though I was getting paid like a
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  Speaker 1: part time McDonald's worker, you know, And I was almost
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  Speaker 1: at the point of like I might have been at
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  Speaker 1: the point of breaking a couple of times, but It'll
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  Speaker 1: only be for like two hours and then I'll be
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  Speaker 1: back to it, like no, I'm rapping. Wow, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So this is what I'm supposed to do. Bro, I'm gifted.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the best, you know, in my mind at least.
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  Speaker 2: What was the difference maker for you to finally start
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  Speaker 2: making like decent money where you were like.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, pandemic as soon as the pandemic hit. What happened,
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  Speaker 1: I swear the pandemic hit. I caught COVID like bad,
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  Speaker 1: Like I called COVID around the time fred to God's
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  Speaker 1: son died, Like yeah, I called COVID when people kind
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  Speaker 1: of didn't know what it was. And I have asthma
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  Speaker 1: like I used to get rushed to the hospital as
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  Speaker 1: a little kid and be on the net neverlizer treatments
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  Speaker 1: and shit like that emergency room. So I really went
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  Speaker 1: through it with COVID. I couldn't breathe, Like I didn't
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  Speaker 1: take a FaceTime for three days because I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk, like I'm conserving my breath. That kind of
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  Speaker 1: fuck me up. I lost a lot of weight. I
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  Speaker 1: came I came back on Instagram like a month after,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm straight, and I dropped
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  Speaker 1: a song. I dropped a song called RLS Real Life
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  Speaker 1: Shit and it was during the time of like it
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  Speaker 1: was like a lockdown when you were like weren't supposed
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  Speaker 1: to go outside and stuff, and that song just just
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  Speaker 1: kind of hit. And then I just started dropping music
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  Speaker 1: from there, and it was like because the world was
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  Speaker 1: so slowed down, people had the time to consume what
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  Speaker 1: I was saying for the first time in my career.
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  Speaker 1: It's like all the noise was blocked out. You couldn't
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  Speaker 1: drop a club anthem, you sound stupid. And club anthems
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  Speaker 1: have never club Yeah, club anthems have never been my specialty.
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  Speaker 1: So when the pandemic happened, it slowed everything down, and
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  Speaker 1: everyone was on their phone and I just had my
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  Speaker 1: cameraman tangent were running around, were just shooting videos and
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  Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, I'm gonna start doing some freestyle
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  Speaker 1: wraps off the phone to them. I just took advantage
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  Speaker 1: of the world slowing down because I'm like, now they
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  Speaker 1: got to listen, And as soon as people listened, my
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  Speaker 1: shit just went, and you know, it turned up. In
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I got into the rap game. And
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  Speaker 1: I've been in the rap game since twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: so like, yeah, like five four or five years. However,
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  Speaker 1: I was in this game before that, but I wasn't
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: though I can't lie like I'd be lying to you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: if I told you I was in the game. I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: was maybe playing in a euro League, not even a
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: euro League. I was maybe playing like I was playing
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: in niketball Rucker, not even at the Rucker. Yeah maybe
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe pick up ball, and not even as like
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: a starter, you know, but like I got into the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: NBA in twenty twenty one. Yeah, just my accountants could
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: tell you that how many years prior to that was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the journey, like twelve thirteen.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, man.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So I only feel like I've been in this shit
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: for four or five because I don't count those years
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: when people talk about those like the old you remember
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: this song? No, I don't, because you know how much
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: work I put in since twenty twenty one, Like, how
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: extend the output is crazy?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I'd say, you output wise? What's your catalog?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: How many how many bodies of work catalog wise are
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: you at now at this point.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Probably like fourteen fifteen.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's a lot. Yeah, as anybody ever flirted, because I
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: know a lot of independent artists been getting hit up
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: by selling their catalogs. That's something you would do.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversations in my life.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Gieparico told me how much they offered him for his shit,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and I was like, bro, yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I could, I could.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I don't speak to It's cinly a seven figure bag
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: for you if you sold it, of course, it's multiple
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: seven figures.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Cad, Like.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you're confident enough that like there's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: more where that came from, you know.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, like.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: It's an option.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, you know random eighty thousand dollars checks
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: periodically a lot of times.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: What's your what's your Obviously you're still would.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: So raspy right, Yeah, I'm going to create right now though.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the district comes through Created.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: The distroc goes through Create, and I got a pup
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: deal through Empire. Shout out Ghazi.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Oh you're double dipping with it with the indie distros.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Got work with Empire, low work we create.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just an independent guy, man, I love it. But
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: if they put me on a major man and give
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: me a Post Malone feature, have Taylor Swift singing in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the car like this, maybe Ed Sharnon come to the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: studio and listen to my album and co sign it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I do a commercial with Tom Brady?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Did Tom Brady? Come?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Hold on? I'm on something right now. Yeah, the Tom
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Brady commercial, Damn Cavy threw me off. I was just
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: thinking about the grand plan because you know, I got
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: those singing ballad type anthems like oh and then justin
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Timberlake on the hook, I'm going bro like a different stratosphere.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'll probably be up at least like eighty to one
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: hundred million, and that could really happen in my life.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So we're just gonna manifest that right here. You see,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that was all using the complexion for the connection right there.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I love it. Have you gotten to the point where
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like you've turned any major situations down or at least
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I know they got it. Had to have called, right, keV.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Gotta know I'm coming into this interview Fried.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You said what a major situation like in terms of yeah, yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: major's coming in and knocking on your door.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every single every single well maybe not every single,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know all of them, but yeah, any situation
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that's out there, because what it is now is they
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: look at data lines.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking at so.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: They're looking at they don't give ant use it, they
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: don't give a fuck who you are, and they like
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: before for see, I ran around the industry with set
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Free when I was.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: First moving to New York, and he moved me around
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to everybody. He moved me around and have me, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: shake hands with any record label. Look sect, I mean,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in Columbia Records with the ball somewhere. Everyone
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and just every label was like, yeah, I don't get it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: But it took for me to drop independently. When the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: pandemic happened, my music streams just went like this, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: what these people are looking for, They're not looking for
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: talent at this point. They're looking for whose line is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like this. So your shit is either like this, is
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like this or like this. So anybody who's like this
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: is getting major offers. So it's not a unique thing
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: or a special thing to me. But yeah, we got
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: all those offers, we got, we got shit going on.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: What would make you consider, you know, diving in to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the major infrastructure because it obviously.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: No, that's I would do the major infrastructure if they
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: did the play rewind this sixty.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Seconds Taylor Swift played Tom Brady, play.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor Swift sing It in the Car, put MEO
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Me and post Malone on the song Taylor Swift sings
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It in the Car. Kylie Jenner shares a little video
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady commercial. I forget the other one, but something
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with Ed Sherman and justin Timberlake. And then let's throwing
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Nelly Nelly.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Nelly.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, were throwing Nelly. And and then after that, me
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and me and so that'll be the like big commercial single.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: We push off the major shit and that shit hall
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: just blow up crazy and then me and Kiss will
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: come back with a hard ass racking me Kiss Wayne
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: eminem and whole. Do you know I was with you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to hold home? Might not get on the song, I think,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if M's tapped in. Man,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you know, he needs to know that the greatest Caucasian
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: there was ever created. You know, after I said I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: put him out of the category, I do consider myself
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the greatest Caucasian rapper of all time, you know what
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean? I put him out of the category because
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he saved my life when we was young, but I burned.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Larry Bird.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's clear. He's like Larry Bird. So we don't
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: want to compare Luca Doncis to Larry Bird and stuff
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That's funny, yo, How did you and m g k
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: up getting together and squashing whatever y'all squashed? Because I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: remember you called him a garbage rapper in the lad
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: interview and all that, and then.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: You take that back. He's not.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He's a sweet guy too, man, He's and I mean,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: did you talk to him, that's my boy?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Like you talk to him like after.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about you, but I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: was just with him in Vegas. He's just like one
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: of the best dudes. Ever, so I feel like sometimes
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like because he's he's done rock and he's like done
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: different genres.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: He's like no, no, no, no, he's cool. And we
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: had a rapport, you know, like we had a rapport
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: back in the day and Ship. I just felt like
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: he was firing shots at me, bro, and I fired
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: shots at him. I thought it would be a good
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's like a boxer calling out a boxer. You know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that would have been a good fight for me.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: You guys ended up connecting now and yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we chopped it up.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I was just talking to him on FaceTime the other day, like, Bro,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he's cool. Yeah, you got his fan like his fans
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: be so mad that I didn't crash on you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: social media like that. We didn't do violence to each other.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But people should look at that situation and look at
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it like this is how grown men handle no handle
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: ship And we didn't have a problem. We had a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: rap problem.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: That's good. Uh. I also saw you connected with Jelly
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Roll in Boston.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I connected with Jelly Roll in Nashville too.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He I know, he's a fan. Me and him talked
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: about you before.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jelly rolle Man, Jelly Roll was ill
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: because he's like a preacher rapper.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: He's definitely a preacher singer. You go to that show
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and he's like preaching to the crowd. Oh yeah, no,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: house comes down on fire at the end.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Jelly roll super godly. He's just a dope individual that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: God bless the world with.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Would you hop on a country beat? Not necessarily do
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a country song?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, Hell yeah. I've I've changed a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of like my views on not saying like I would
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: switch genres. I'm gonna keep it this rap shit forever.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: But I like.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Country music a lot though, like that, there's stuff that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I do here.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: The songwriting is next level.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very similar to hip hop though, is rod
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Wave is the biggest artist selling wise, because like I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: guess those country records that go number one and ship
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: like road Waves music is pretty similar on bar with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: all of that ship not saying necessarily like sonically but
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like just the song, but.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Like you could like flip a switch and put Broadways
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: onto some of these country productions and it's it sounds.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And I really got introduced to country music through rap,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: like I got introduced through like Broadway girls, like Free Dirk,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, what I mean with Morgan Wall and like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that's how I got really acquainted. I knew one country
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: song when I was coming up Darius Rucker shout out, uh,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that's h and he was talking about who he was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: talking about. Don't think I don't think about it through
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the work and the herd and a whiskey. Don't think
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think about it. And that was one of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the things that like, I think that inspired him on
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: my song, right and sh like that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He's from that's Hoody from Hoody in the Blowfish Darius.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Rutger, Yeah, I just know him from that song.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Uh. I feel like Big Extra
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Plug's doing a good job of like hopping country records,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but they sound like he's still just doing him, you know,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: right right right, shout out to Big X. You got
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of dope features on this album. Obviously, No Cap,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Dave East.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know about No Cap.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Of course, likeout out to Alabama, Man.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: No, you really know about caps.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: One of my I've been for like three or four
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: years DM and that guy trying to get him to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: come on the show.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like he's an all time and I've.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Been trying to book him in my club for sake.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: He's incredible.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I got cap as like the greatest artists out right now.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his pen game is ridiculous.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Got him as the greatest artist out right now because
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: beat selection, melody and then straight bar work and a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: lot of the Sometimes I feel like East Coast people
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: look over like his bar work because they're not catching
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it because he's doing it in melody. You might got
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: some auto to him, but he's borrowing them the funk
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: out now his pen games. We got a song where
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it goes, and I just thought it was a profound
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: statement when he said it. He said, I didn't pray
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: last night. Why because I'm a man and I'm not
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: trying to put this weight on God? And that that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: hit me. I was like, damn, my man, I'm not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: trying to put this weight on God. I thought that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was just profound in itself for sure. But I didn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: pray last night? Why because I'm amen and I ain't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: trying to put this weight on God?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Because amen a man?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So it's little shit like that. And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I heard that song ninety thousand.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You put that together?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: No, a fan put it together for me and I'm like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that's that's when you talking high level rap, bro, like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you're slipping shit in there, and that's that's what made
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: all the NAS CDs and all the classic rap CDs good.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: When you could go back and on your ninetieth listen,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, shdamn he man, this that's fucking crazy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And Cap got that all through his.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Catalog for sure. Yeah. No, he's slept on too.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Now, the most slept on. Not really though, because he
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: sells out all the shows and.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: He's been I mean, he's definitely big.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: It's just people don't really Yeah, fully understand.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: What you and Mazi. I know you Mazzi got a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: working relationship at this point. Man, I feel like Mazi
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: is the type of guy to pop out and do
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a joint album with somebody. Would you? Would you guys? Ever?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Man, I love that man, that bro, we should do that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You know. That's so crazy because I think here was
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: one of the first places we started connecting the dots.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just took over my pizza shop Friday for
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: his album release. That's what's up.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Out to Masie Man, Yeah, no, shout out to Masi Man.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: My West Coast Breda.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: We dropped a pizza called the Mozzarella Fella and all
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: sales benefited incarcerated people.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I'm jacking out the mozzarella Fella. I'm jacking out you
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: could be the mozzarella Fella because your your skin tone.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Obviously mozzarella cheese is white. You know, how are we
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: feeling about?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like the impending finals collision is Celtics first thunder.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: If you had to put some money on it, how
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: do you?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: First of all, we might see them reps start to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: get a little triggy when it comes to the Lakers.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Is that Lakers? Celtics? Boy, that's that's the world want that? Man.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: We don't give a funk about shake Gilgrits. I mean, ga,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we don't care about him and his aura, you know
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: what I mean. They don't care about that. We want
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Celtics Lakers. But no, I mean, whoever we get, it'll
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: be it'll be a blessing to punish them in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: final for sure.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: What is is there a team in the Eastern Conference? Look,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I know you're not worried about a team in the
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, but what is in your opinion, the biggest,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: biggest challenge you're gonna face the cas Calves probably right, yeah, yeah, well.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Not the NIXT.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: No disrespect.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I love New York I love New York Man, but
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Knicks they're just not it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think they They might not get out of
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the first.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Round, the next the NIXT. Maybe in like five years
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Like, I wonder you are a ladies man. I al
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: would see you on Instagram with a plethora of young things.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Not young things, okay, properly aged things, nice thirty twenty nine,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: thirty fours.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta rap, I said, I like a wholesome,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: bad bitch that's approaching her thirties.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Perfect, all right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I wonder what
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: because obviously you see what's going on with Shannon Sharp.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: How careful are you about like making sure like women
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: who come around you ain't trying to set you up?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Because this is a thing that happens all the time
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with artists and celebrities.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, we'd like girls like filming you and stuff.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been in that situation where you like
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: maybe woke up and the bitch was on her phone
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like filming you or something.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I've never been in no type of sin and sob situations.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Not Shannon Sharp.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I just mean in general, clear me all the way
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: from put that over there, put that all the way
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: over that. I think every every woman that I deal with,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they'll say, you know, I'm even though it might seem
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on Instagram I might come off disrespectful. Every woman that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I deal with will tell you Millies is one of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the most, you know, most nice, genuine people. Like I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: don't even fall out with girls like that. A lot
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of girls that I dealt with in life, we're still cool.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know so.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, now I could tell like the cloud Chasers
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that the second like, a girl asked me one time,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: who's the most famous person in your in your phone?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And that just disgusted me, Like I get away from
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: those type of girls fast.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, you gotta get the fuck out of here.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: You gotta go now. She had to go that was it?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Like, what kind of question is?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That question blew mint. We were in London. She said,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: who's the most famous girl? Who's the most famous person
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you got in your phone? I might have threw up.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: That is crazy, Uh, what is the relationship like with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: speaking of famous people that you know? With with one
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of the greatest whites of all time, Mark Wahlberg. He's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: a big fan, just a solid guy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Mark is like Mark's a real say, he's somebody who
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't need anything from anybody.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna put you in a movie soon,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So I never I got this thing. I never asked
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: my my big lit friends for anything, right, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: just good. I know a bunch of billionaires and shit.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: So like the other day we were at the Celtics.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I was courtsied at the Celtics. I told all I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: saw like all my guys, I said, courts eyed with it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: They're up like real significant money and all I had
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: crazy watches on. I just took a flick all the watch.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't even put my shit in there because it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a bust down. I'm like, I gotta have like a plan,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you know, even on my ship fifty five thousand. But
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: it was like, man, I couldn't even put it in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the picture. But I got all. I got a bunch
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: of people's contacts, and I don't really ask him for anything.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: So I try to keep it like that with Mark
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: because he's so genuine. Like Mark then facetimeed my mom
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and chopped it up and Mark. Mark actually put me
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and Joyan and Lucas's relationship together.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That's dope.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so me and j ain't and never really used
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to chopping and Mark was like, now, y'all gotta work together.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Y'all get stronger bout together. But yeah, it's crazy. He's
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: a real, you know, aless celebrity, but he's a street guy,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like in his heart and you know, he really comes
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: from like trenches.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And for better or worse, at a certain point in time,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: was the most popping rapper in Boston.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, back in the day. Hell yeah. He tries
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to downplay his rap career.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: It's almost like he tries to act like it never existed.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Well, no, he'll come around and he'll be like, we
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: got Millie's man, Millie's going crazy. You know, I was
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a corny rapper, But I don't think he was a
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: corny rap. I don't think there's nothing corny about him.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Bros during that era. I think Mark is a stand
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: up guy. The streets love Mark. Like that's another thing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Like when I'm when I'm with Mark, like I get
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the craziest calls from rappers, like, hell, tell Mark, I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a fan bro like dude the zip lean all day
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and don't even pay attention to society and should hit
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: me and like, yo, tell Mark im Afan like he's
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: nationally beloved. Man.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: How far ahead do you think about, like in terms
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: of like planning, whether it's hey, all right, cool, block
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: O seven's out? Do you already got the next two
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: or three things figured out? Are you thinking five years ahead?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Or you think like, like how far ahead are you planning?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Like, because I really think like I didn't expect to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: live this long, so I planned like two three months. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Like I always. I always had this weird thing I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: thought I was gonna die. Like my friend died when
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I was like fifteen, and it just happened like we
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: were in the park one night and he died that
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: next morning, you know what I mean. And I looked
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: at him in the coffin like a week later, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I just from there I was like, oh, oh you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: die before eighteen. I was just like in my mind
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like because this was the person I talk to every day,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: my best friend. So I always just felt like I'm
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: not gonna live that long. And I kind of like
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: romanticized it, Like you get a lot of I don't.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to say. It's like, when you die,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: your ship is like it's lit for you, especially if
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you don't got a lot going on. Now that I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: got a lot going on, I don't want. Yeah, And
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: now the way that the Internet goes is like, man,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they talking crazy about people when they die. That ain't
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: used to happen back in the day. But yeah, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: say that to say, like I plan, I plan far
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: ahead and I'm trying to and that's where the catalog
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: talks and all of that, Like you know that that'll
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: be I'm cool with whenever I check out like I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: had a blast, right, you know. But yeah, I don't plan,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Like I don't have no five year plans. My plan
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: is just to run up the bag as much as
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: possible because it's this shit could be over today.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: We'll look Blanco seven is out, go support that ship.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Seven.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have you and the homies wrap separate YouTube
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: video because I know you got to get a flight,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: but yo, go get that album, Man, get the Owl,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: get the album. Millise my Dog