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Welcome to Leave the 99 Podcast: Trailer · Leave the 99

• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the Leave the 99 podcast with Black Sheep Health, hosted by me, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Russ, Russell Van Maley, and I'm joined here by my beautiful wife, Lo Van Meeley.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're happy to have you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh the purpose of today is to get the podcast out there and get the backstory behind it so that we can just set the table for this thing going forward.
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  SPEAKER_00: So take it away.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know, I'm really excited.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for letting me be your first guest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Happy to have you.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: You're an easy, you're easy first choice.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would hope so.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_03: I thought about bringing our toddlers, but then I was like, it might be a little loud.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not today.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I'm I'm really honored.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, thank you.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm very honored.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, not only is this something that you decided to do, but I feel like you really tried to bring the Holy Spirit into it and you you listened rather than bringing him in.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like you listened to his prompts to your heart and to your mind and to just our phase of life.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, for those of you who don't know us, we have two very small babies and a very busy time in our lives where you're you're starting this business while we also moved from northern Michigan to to northwest Arkansas.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um it was busy, so I would love to hear and have the audience hear just when you came up with the name Black Sheep Health, what were you thinking and what was going on at that time of your life?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So as a doctor, I've always felt like I was a little bit different, talking about nutrition and diet and exercise and sleep and all the core pillars, and honestly, like praying for my patients.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that anybody was ever doing that or even bringing Jesus into health, which I think it's the number one thing that should be a part of their health, right?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because we both know when Jesus goes away or we f when we feel lost from our faith that our lives just kind of feel like they're crumbling.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've always kind of felt that way, and I've practiced that way ever since I've you know been out on my own.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh we consider moving to Arkansas and it was just in the consideration process, and one of my brothers, we won't say who, call calls calls me the the black sheep of the family.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: As a joke.
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  SPEAKER_00: As a joke, it was very much a joke, but you know, that night when I came home and talked to you about it, I was pretty upset.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and it was like, wow, I feel ostracized from the family because I'm trying to do things differently and honor our family and what's best for us and honor God in the process.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so after kind of letting that sit for a little while, it's like let's kind of make you know turn lemons into lemonade here, and that's a great practice name, black sheep health, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You're different, you want to go against the grain, you want to do things that you feel is best for you, and then are honoring God at the end of the day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of where it came from.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I guess tying all that together, I think there was also an extra component of that, um, with the Cory Asbury song.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So yes, black sheep health and being different, but I think even tying in this podcast of Leave the 99, where does Luke 15 fit in with that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so Luke 15 is the parable of the lost sheep where God goes after the one that kind of strays away from the herd.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there's been many times in my life and your life when you feel alone and you feel like you don't have anyone or anything, and the next thing you know, you're you feel God's presence, and you know that he's just always coming back for you.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that just that story just hits so hard every time you hear it because every time you you think it's you're that's never gonna happen to you again, like it does.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: And Jesus keeps bringing you back, and then you stray away, and then he keeps bringing you back.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that that Luke 15 always kind of sat with me of like wow, I've that story resonates with me so hard, and that kind of just brings up like repentance and wanting to repent and really just every day just get closer and closer to God of like you know, relieve me, rid me of my old ways, and help me follow you better, help me choose you more often.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's great, and I think that that's something that you know, as a doctor is something that it's your responsibility to kind of bring people back sometimes, right?
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that you know, you were raised with in such a good family, like you have such a wonderful family, and I think that your family was such a wonderful example of showing you, like, hey, I'm never gonna leave you, I'm always gonna be here, and like they just they do that for us, they do that for our kids, and so I I think that that is something that probably resonates with you so much because you have that wonderful example, and that translates to our Heavenly Father, which is so cool.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but as a doctor and as someone who's starting this business and starting a podcast, that's kind of like your responsibility.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_03: I know sometimes you get patients that are like all gung-h when they hang up and they're like, Yeah, I'm gonna do everything you say, and then you see them three months later, and they're like, I didn't do that.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what do I do now?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: So as you start Black Sheep Health, and I'd actually love to like dive into Black Sheep Health um as well as this podcast and what your goals are.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_03: But as a physician and as the the CEO and owner of Black Sheep Health, what are your goals for your patients and just the way that they feel, operate?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, do you have more than just goals for their health?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think at the end of the day, as a play on sheep pun, but to feel heard and not heard, like, don't be a part of the herd.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's their own person, they require it feeling heard by, especially as a physician, I think is incredibly powerful.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, just the other day I had a woman in tears at the end of our call, and I just asked her, like, why?
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why, like, why are you crying like right now?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: We've been in this call like for 45 minutes.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: And she goes, You're the first person that has ever heard me.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Wow.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like I wish my wife would say.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: But seriously, it was it was so cool because it was finally like to to that woman, in my opinion, everything it was clear as day what was going on.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: In her life and what translated into her health and her labs and biomarkers and whatnot.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: But all I did was just kind of let her talk.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do anything crazy, you know.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: And as physicians, we and even just like to kind of like prove our medical worth in this space where there's a million influencers and there's everybody is a doctor, it seems like these days.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: In this space, in this space specifically, it's it goes down to simplifying your health.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really getting down to where's your faith at?
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: Where's your physical health at?
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  SPEAKER_00: Where's your mental health at?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: And let's talk about family.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about your job and how that ties into your family.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about your marriage.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Where where are you at?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because if somebody is struggling in a relationship with their spouse and I'm trying to talk to them about optimizing their testosterone, like it just doesn't work.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: One doesn't work without the other.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a big fan of just like simplifying everything in health in this space where it's just so noisy for lack of a better word.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be able to simplify it and bring on believers on this channel, bring on uh people that are in this space.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally, right before this, we've got the smoothie sitting across from us.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: I run into this nutritionist who's the owner of the smoothie place, which by the way, I'm not a huge smoothie fan for the record.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: For most people, but but I talked to her, and sure enough, she's uh a devoted Christian woman that gave her gave me her testimony in uh her smoothie shop.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I met her, I met her five minutes ago.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the people that I want on this platform that have an expert opinion on their space, like in stay in their lane of like, hey, I'm really good at this, and I combine faith with getting people healthier.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, do right by people, do right by God, and and I think I've been called to want to get people to a healthier place than they're at right now.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's great.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you can do that with medicine and listening and all of those things combined, and it's a combination too.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't need to be like, oh, I'm all eastern medicine or I'm all Western medicine or everything in pharma is terrible.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's not true.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: There is you can pick and choose from it, and certainly there's bad players in the game, but at the end of the day, use everything at your disposal to get somebody to the healthiest that they can be.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: While also respecting who they are as a person, what they're willing to do, what they're not willing to do.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: As a patient?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: As a patient.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: There's certain there's so many people that will come on and see me as a doctor, and they're like, hey, I don't want to be on a statin.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just telling you right away, like, I'm not gonna be on a statin.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna obviously give them the pros and cons of the statin, but at the end of the day, I'm not gonna force it down their throat.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, great, you don't want to go that route.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: I can respect that, hear the risks, but also let's take the route that you want to take because at the end of the day, we're all gonna die.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: So, not to be morbid, but we're all gonna die.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the good Lord is gonna call us home one day, and we have no idea when that day is gonna come.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: It could be, I hope not, but it could be for us on the way home, on our way home from here.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: We hope that that's not gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: But you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so therefore, live your best life right now and take care of yourself right now, because you can't say, Oh, I'm just gonna start taking care of myself tomorrow or next week or next year, because next thing you know, you're coasting through life, and it is not that is not how God intended our lives to be, and that's that's how I view it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I think that's another big value that I think is often overlooked, and to your point, there's so many opinions out there, and so many people who are doctors and they're wonderful, and they know kind of what they're talking about, and then there are a lot of influencers and people who have done research and they are certainly experts and know things that they're talking about as well.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: But I think you know, where I've seen you operate and support your patients, and even me in in in things, you know, like pregnancy or just hormones or postpartum or whatever, I see you doing so many things and so much research, right?
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that that's such a value that's that's overlooked by so many people of the time that you are taking on the back end to find the right answers.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Of you know, I was just talking to you today about, you know, blood work, and I'm like, well, what about this and what about this?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm freaking out, and you took the time to look these things up and ask me questions and do the research that number one, like I don't know what I'm gonna look for, right?
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: And then number two, you found the right information for me and for what I needed, and that is so helpful, and it takes away so much stress.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: So I really appreciate that about you, and I think that as a physician, you are just so well-rounded as as your wife and your just your buddies, your teammate.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: There are a lot of people I'm like, I'm not present on me, but you're paramedics.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's fair.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: I am probably biased, but I do think that I think that you help people in so many different ways.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: So it's really cool to be able to see you, you know.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: We met when we were so young, and just you had just gotten your first job, and now you're here, and that's so cool.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I think one thing that would be valuable as I'm as we're talking and I'm listening and I'm loving everything you're saying, but I think it would be really, really great to kind of define what Black Sheep Health is and then what Leave the 99 is and what's your goal with Leave the the 99, right?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Because we are going to want people to listen, we're gonna want people to come back uh for the next episode and hear everything that you're talking about.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'd love to to dive into that so that your audience can really understand what they're what they're in store for.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: So Black Sheep Health is a faith-based concierge primary care platform where we're doing things holistically, we're doing things with mind, body, spirit in mind, and truly it's a one-on-one relationship at the end of the day with your doctor where you can get to the best health that you've ever been.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, let's not overuse the term white glove, right?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's very much white glove.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: Which is again, everybody's saying that, but I think you do such a great job.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: You give people so much of your time when when you're with them, and then again, and on that back end.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: So I think that's something that's not to be overlooked.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because they need to be, they need to feel heard, right?
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: They their story needs to be, you know, listened to, and a lot of times that's half the battle just understanding that and then just knowing like how to take care of those people.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's a little bit different, and I think that's we're in a system that doesn't allow for that to happen.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: I have an I have a heart for primary care doctors because I am one.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: But the problem is every primary care doctor has about five to ten minutes with their client or or their patient.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I call them clients these days.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's a shame because I think at it at the core and why every doctor became a doctor was to help people.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we're in a system where it's kind of that's super broken, and I think everybody's kind of opening their eyes to that if they haven't seen it already.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's the biggest complaint I ever get is like I don't get enough time with my doctor, and you've already spent ten times as much time with me than I've ever gotten in the last couple of years.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a luxury, and I understand that I'm blessed to be on that on that side of things.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we're gonna take care of you, mind, body, spirit, all the testing that we need to do, only the necessary stuff, not just this like shotgun approach of just everybody gets slammed with all these tests right off the bat.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, what why are you here?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: What are your goals?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get to those goals and let's have a relationship where we can build on those goals.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the black sheep health side of things.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then from 99, it's how can we be different in this world of sheep, yes, where everybody's just kind of falling in line, the people that want to kind of go the other way and be different and be healthy, break generational curses, right?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's do it and let's not feel alone in that journey.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's very easy to feel alone if you're in that space that in the here and now, especially if you're surrounded by people that are kind of bringing you down or not leading you down that path, or not letting you be open about your faith because you're afraid to say the word Jesus.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: That was my upbringing.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I felt like the weird person saying Jesus out loud, and now I'm just realizing that's spiritual warfare to a T.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to have this podcast to to truly get people back to their roots, help them to find who they are as a person, and have God be at the center of all of it all.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: So when you say that, what are what are you gonna do?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Are you gonna you're gonna have people on?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna sit and be a part of that.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like how what's that gonna look like?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um I also think you're leaving on a really big component.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's I think September going into October, and I think there's just a big group of people out there that you really want to chat with this time of year.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: People who like the hunters of the world, the bow hunters of the world.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, if this is my podcast, then I want uh my ideal avatar is a a Christian bow hunter in the medical space.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's just you.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: You're the only one listening.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, but anybody who's I want to bring anybody who can combine an aspect of health that is very okay with talking about their faith.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Or even the people that aren't okay with talking about their faith, it I want to be a disciple, right?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like bring more people to the Lord.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: That is how I think we are called as Christians to get more people to know who God is and know who Jesus is.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to bring people that are uh specialist doctors, yes, especially how how we can we improve primary care?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Primary care is taking care of yourself.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: So how do we improve primary care outcomes?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: How do we give more information and the hormones and peptides space and all the stuff that I do every day?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: How can we give more light on that?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: The good, the bad, the ugly, and how do we put that into real life that actually lasts?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you don't want to be a part of the trends, right?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like we're in such a trend culture, everything changes, and it's it's amazing how quickly we're evolving, but at the same time we have to be so aware of what that looks like and what is actually true and what's not.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I think I think that's one thing that you anybody who's watching this is really gonna get truth.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, right?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: Truth from so many different ways, and I I'm really excited to see you choose the people that you're gonna have on and and have these big conversations, whether if it's about God, like you said, medicine, hunting, working out.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think one thing that I've seen in you that's been really cool is just your evolution as a dad and you know holding that big responsibility.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I know that you're gonna kind of want to focus on that too.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's a huge part of my life right now.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I'm really excited to to see that unravel and not unravel, I guess unfold.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_03: Unfold.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like it's almost like this is like a you know, you can't call it a diary, it can't call it a thought book.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's Russell's thought book.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a long story, but we don't know know.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Those who know no, but we don't it's not a thought book, it's a diary, it's a it's it's I'm 36 years old.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a married man with two kids, a third one on the way, and we're unbelievably blessed.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like God is truly calling me towards this one direction, and I feel just attacked by spiritual warfare right now and trying to fight off those demons on a daily basis, but I don't I know that I'm not alone in this journey.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know that there's other men and women that feel the same way.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and it's funny because you find out there's a lot more people out there when you just kind of open up.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you just tell people kind of where you're at, and all of a sudden you're like, oh me too, me too, and I feel the same way.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I think there has to be a certain you know boldness here of just like hey, putting yourself out there, especially as a doctor, right?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: You get looked at through a microscope, and especially if you see something that's like slightly wrong or you know, which might happen.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which very much could happen.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like some of this stuff at the end of the day, I think that truly there's research, and then it comes down to all right, then medicine is an art because it's the art of how do you develop a relationship with people, how do you get people to be their healthiest self, and you gotta know when to use western medicine, you gotta know when to use eastern medicine, you gotta know when to use all the aspects of your toolbox.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm blessed enough to not just have a hammer and look at everything else as a nail.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I've got a pretty big toolbox and try to come up with the best game plan for every single person.
• 22:29
  unknown: That's awesome.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm really excited for you.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for letting me be your first guest.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I just I wish you all the best.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to be on this journey with you.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's a great job, Venice.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love you.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm proud of you.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: I love you too.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: See y'all later.