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Catch a Wave · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. It is the almost samest podcast with
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  Speaker 1: the incredible, the magical. I'm not gonna say the beautiful
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  Speaker 1: because last week I got yelled at for that, but
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  Speaker 1: the courageous Ashley, I can Eddie Ashley. What's up? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: not much, but I just wanted to say that I
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  Speaker 1: am sharing the mic right now with the talented, brilliant, incredible, amazing,
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  Speaker 1: show stopping. Well we we started this podcast today was
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  Speaker 1: something that you're not going to uh to hear. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I logged into zoom and I just hear somebody absolutely
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  Speaker 1: destroying it. I mean, it was, it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: unlike anything I've heard in a while. Ashley. You've switched
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  Speaker 1: from from other things to now saying that you have
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  Speaker 1: some good nasal drip. Oh. I've had post nasal drips
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  Speaker 1: since the beginning of the pregnancy, one of the first
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  Speaker 1: symptoms I've had. It's actually very common. It's like of
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  Speaker 1: women experience like really bad congestion post nasal drip and
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, the mucus production is out of this
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  Speaker 1: world and so disgusting. But but yeah, we we have
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  Speaker 1: a new assistant here on the podcast as well, and
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  Speaker 1: she heard in just five minutes about how my gas
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  Speaker 1: situation was, how my mucus situation was, and how my
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  Speaker 1: nipples are doing. Yeah, you know that's when that's when
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  Speaker 1: you know we've been doing this a while, is when
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  Speaker 1: we can talk about nipples and it really doesn't phase anybody. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the whole team just sits there until you
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  Speaker 1: and I are done and says, well, can we get started, Um, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: You're currently then, as we give our weekly summary of
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  Speaker 1: how you're holding up, Um, you're experiencing pretty much every
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  Speaker 1: I'm not can I say negative, like negative symptom or
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  Speaker 1: every like major symptom of being pregnant, Like you're really
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  Speaker 1: going through it pretty much. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: seventeen weeks on Wednesday, and yeah, the growing up has ease.
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  Speaker 1: I still threw up twice in the past twenty four
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  Speaker 1: twelve hours. Um, but with so Fran, I'm able to
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  Speaker 1: um live a relatively functional life. I mean, I still
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  Speaker 1: prefer she spend most of my day on the couch,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, UM, but the only very popular side
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  Speaker 1: effect that I'm not having is headaches, which praise be
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  Speaker 1: for that because um, you can't take Adville when you're pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: You can only take thailand al. And I always find
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  Speaker 1: that thailand al doesn't really work the best for me.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a guaranteed fix. What about for you, tiln All, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say advils might go to right now with
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  Speaker 1: my me, I just think stopped taking Adville because the
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  Speaker 1: surgery coming to Yeah, with my surgery coming up, and
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  Speaker 1: like my history with like strong pain killers is not
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  Speaker 1: a good one. Um, And so I'm like trying to
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  Speaker 1: navigate all of this. So like, yeah, there's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of things I've done, um, natural support, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really help that much. You now, Ashley, I learned some
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  Speaker 1: about this week about pregnancy. I think, tell me if
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  Speaker 1: I'm crazy. My mom and Jessica were talking to me,
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  Speaker 1: and it was on the day that you announced the
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  Speaker 1: sex that you try. By the way, congratulations, what a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Um, You're gonna have a boy, right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to have a boy. They were shocked. Everybody was shocked, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They I learned that, like usually the roughest pregnancies are
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  Speaker 1: those with girls. Yes, so there's apparently even a little
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  Speaker 1: statistical like there's actually like some scientific evidence as to
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  Speaker 1: why that is. Um, you you produce more pregnancy hormone
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  Speaker 1: when you have a girl, so typically it's like pregnancy hormone.
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  Speaker 1: I might just be pulling that number out of my blood,
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  Speaker 1: but that means and the pregnancy hormone is what causes
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  Speaker 1: the nausea, So it's not a totally ridiculous thoughts to
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  Speaker 1: think that, like if you're really nauseous to having a girl,
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  Speaker 1: but then you can be so nauseous and have boys too,
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  Speaker 1: Like Jade said that she was way sicker with both boys,
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  Speaker 1: and she was with that with Emmy, So it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's really nobody knows, but yes, everyone was convinced. I
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  Speaker 1: would get declarative statements on my Instagram from just from
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  Speaker 1: followers who were like, you're having a girl period, like
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  Speaker 1: as if they knew for a fact, and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: you're having this because you're having a girl. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this is really funny to read when I actually know
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  Speaker 1: it's it's as a boy, because I think we knew
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  Speaker 1: for like almost three weeks before we announced that. Okay, wow,
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  Speaker 1: well Actley, we're renny. Keep keep up there with your life,
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  Speaker 1: keep updated with your life too. You're having surgery next week,
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  Speaker 1: so like you're gonna be taking a week off from
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  Speaker 1: the pod, and like, are you worried? Scared? This all
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  Speaker 1: happened because you guys, this was covered on one of
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  Speaker 1: our Bonus podcast episodes with gap Home. He was playing basketball.
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  Speaker 1: He tore in his a c L and his m
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  Speaker 1: c L just playing a pickup game of basketball. Now
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  Speaker 1: he has to go into, like, you know, pretty major
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  Speaker 1: surgery and that's very sad. Are you like a little worried?
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  Speaker 1: Have you? You've had major surgery before? Right? This is
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  Speaker 1: my third knee surgery. You know, I'm more nervous this
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  Speaker 1: time than I was when I was younger, to be honest, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm more anxious about it, and I know I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be nervous day of where I used to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of I was talking to one of my buddies who
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  Speaker 1: plays UM for the Cleveland Browns and he towards a
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  Speaker 1: c L a few years ago, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the difference is um I was.
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  Speaker 1: I used to like do it and try to get
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  Speaker 1: back for sports. Now I'm doing it and trying to
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  Speaker 1: get back from my wedding. And I think that's like
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  Speaker 1: obviously more even more important to me, and I'm I
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  Speaker 1: am nervous. Uh you know, eight weeks after surgery, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be getting married and what like what kind of state
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  Speaker 1: will be in. Um. I also like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you feel about this or how our listeners feel,
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  Speaker 1: but I think there's a little bit more of anxiety
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  Speaker 1: inside of me because like of jets, Like I have
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  Speaker 1: somebody there now that is going to have to like
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  Speaker 1: kind of take care of me, and my mom's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come out for a bit, but gonna have to take
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  Speaker 1: care of me, and I know that puts a lot
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  Speaker 1: of weight on her with her you know skincare company
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  Speaker 1: that's going bonkers. And then, um, I'm gonna miss our
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  Speaker 1: cake test tasting. I'm gonna miss our vote pre wedding photos.
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  Speaker 1: Who that was like a big deal. So like there's
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  Speaker 1: things now I have to miss and that makes me sad.
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  Speaker 1: But overall, I am very um confident and very excited
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  Speaker 1: to get it fixed so that I can get back um.
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  Speaker 1: And but yeah, I'm gonna take some time off so
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  Speaker 1: everybody out there, UM, I'll be resting up. I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: try to document it as well as I ever document
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  Speaker 1: anything which is like one or two stories and maybe
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  Speaker 1: a picture possible home, but I'll try to document it
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  Speaker 1: just so you know what the updates are in life.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, I know actually Will will carry this thing well. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: we have a big podcast in front of us. We
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  Speaker 1: have Jesse Palmer coming on to talk about The Ultimate
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  Speaker 1: Surfer and also Bachelor in Paradise because he's a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of Bachelor in Paradise. Um. Also, we're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: down this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise, which is
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  Speaker 1: a big one. A lot going on, so let's take
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  Speaker 1: a break and we come back. We'ren bring on Jesse Palmer,
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  Speaker 1: the host of The Ultimate Surfer, one of the busiest
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  Speaker 1: men uh in entertainment. Uh, he's showing up everywhere, butody
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  Speaker 1: isn't his show out right now? Uh? That is getting
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  Speaker 1: people talking. Jesse Palmer joins up almost in his podcast
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  Speaker 1: right now. A former bachelor, but it's not something we
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  Speaker 1: like to talk about too much because he's done far
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  Speaker 1: greater things since then. Thanks coming on, dude, Thanks so
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  Speaker 1: much for having me. Great to do with you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I have a funny story. Um, so do you remember
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  Speaker 1: how I ran into you and I met you for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. It waste yes, um, so Jared and
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  Speaker 1: I went over and we said hi, and my mom
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  Speaker 1: you weren't with a girl and we weren't sure, like
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know that you were. You're engaged, right, yes, yes, yes, yes, Well,
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  Speaker 1: my mom try to convince my sister to go over
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  Speaker 1: and ask you out for the longest time or like
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  Speaker 1: to flirt with you, and uh, then we found out
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  Speaker 1: you had a fiance. But like, yeah, your sister she's
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  Speaker 1: probably way in my league anyway. So I think everybody
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  Speaker 1: got saved. Everybody got saved through that. But I love
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  Speaker 1: your mom after hearing that story. Oh my gosh, my
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  Speaker 1: mom is such like a Yanta. My sister is now
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  Speaker 1: also engaged, so great, So it worked out for everything
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. At the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, that was That was awesome running into you
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  Speaker 1: and Jared though. That was great. It was very nice
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  Speaker 1: to you. You You are truly like an icon role model
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  Speaker 1: for anybody who wants to go on and do really
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  Speaker 1: like any like build any sort of career. After the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: you have done amazing, Like here's your little roster right now.
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  Speaker 1: After the Bachelor you did holiday baking, Championship with a
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  Speaker 1: food network. You've done Good Morning America, You've been a
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  Speaker 1: special contributor there. Um, You've done The Daily Mail TV show,
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  Speaker 1: and now you're the host of The Ultimate Surfer, which
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  Speaker 1: is on Monday and Tuesday is following The Bachelor Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise on ABC. Um, dude, like, you just keep
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  Speaker 1: killing it. Jack of all trades, the master of none.
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  Speaker 1: I've been. I've been really, really lucky. You know. It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I just I think back playing football when I got
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  Speaker 1: drafted by the New York Giants. I think that was
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  Speaker 1: one of the best things that ever happened in my life.
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  Speaker 1: That was totally out of It was totally something that
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  Speaker 1: that I couldn't control. But I think coming to New
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  Speaker 1: York City and the media market in a place that
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  Speaker 1: kind of a loud bit to tap into a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different different passions I had just outside of football,
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  Speaker 1: I think for me it was just a tremendous opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I was super lucky. And uh yeah, he's like a
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  Speaker 1: bad like surfing analogy and just like riding the waves
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  Speaker 1: right now. I'm just like kind of like hanging tent
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  Speaker 1: on all this. But it's been I've been really really fortunate.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. And not to like
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  Speaker 1: make your ego any bigger, but like, I'm a Giants fan,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember I was like I was young when
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  Speaker 1: you were drafted. I would say, like, what year was it?
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  Speaker 1: It was two thousand and one. Actually, I gotta say
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  Speaker 1: just I want to stop this right now and tell
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  Speaker 1: you that I was always a huge fan of yours,
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  Speaker 1: but after your mom's story and now finding out that
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  Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, I'm even a bigger Ashley, which
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  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think it was possible coming into
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  Speaker 1: this because I was on Instagram and like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: you guys like announced that you guys are having a
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  Speaker 1: kid and it's a boy, and you're not sure what
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  Speaker 1: the name is going to be. And I saw and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, you do, but it's not gonna be Tom
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  Speaker 1: or Brady. You know that. So I'm thinking, like, of
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  Speaker 1: course their Pats fans. I'm a Giants fan who went
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  Speaker 1: to the second Super Bowl, this in Giants Patriots super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: and like, and I ended up marrying a hardcore Patriots
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  Speaker 1: fan and honestly are a team that's they're easy to
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  Speaker 1: root for, and especially since like as a Giants fan,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, to me, like it makes sense that
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  Speaker 1: I can rood for you guys, but like Pat Span
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  Speaker 1: can't root for the Giants. It's just because we are
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  Speaker 1: your kryptonite. But anyway, I can go blah blah blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. But what I was gonna say was, I
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  Speaker 1: remember I was thirteen when you were drafted. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: who's the cute quarterback that we got? Maybe I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get into football now. Yeah, we were great lighting
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  Speaker 1: and makeup on those team photos back in the Giants
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  Speaker 1: and l One I have like the high tight fade.
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  Speaker 1: Know that was totally not your type. I know, Oh
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  Speaker 1: that was every girl's type anyway. And do you have
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  Speaker 1: a serious question for I do? Yeah, Jesse, we're here
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Ultimate Surfer. I want to know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really in two things. One, can you explain the show
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  Speaker 1: to the to the listeners? Really sell it? And then
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  Speaker 1: the second is why were you chosen use Surfer? Um?
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  Speaker 1: Why did why did you say yes to it? Just
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  Speaker 1: kind of give the background? Been too great serious questions?
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  Speaker 1: Uh for to answer the first one? Um, the Ultimate
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  Speaker 1: Surfer is kind of like a surf competition. Meets Big
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  Speaker 1: Brother meets the Bachelor in Paradise a little bit. It's
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  Speaker 1: got a little bit of something for everybody. When the
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  Speaker 1: show started, we took fourteen of the best surfers in America,
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  Speaker 1: seven men, seven women, bring them together and they're competing
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  Speaker 1: at Kelly Slater Surf Ranch and Lamore, California, which, if
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  Speaker 1: you've never seen it, it's like a Disneyland for adults.
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  Speaker 1: It's this wave pool. It's essentially seven football fields long.
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  Speaker 1: It makes the perfect wave. Uh, the wave can run
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  Speaker 1: for like fifty seconds. It's just phenomenal. And essentially they're
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  Speaker 1: all surfing and competing for a hundred thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 1: a chance to get on the World surf Leak Championship Tour,
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  Speaker 1: which is like the NFL of pro surfing. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the very very pinnacle, which is really really hard to
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  Speaker 1: get onto. Um there's a lot of drama on the
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  Speaker 1: show because a lot of these surfers know each other
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  Speaker 1: coming in, so there's sort of these pre existing rivalries
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  Speaker 1: or these these pre existing alliances that sort of already
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  Speaker 1: exist when they get there. But you're putting fourteen really
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  Speaker 1: good looking people together in one space for a period
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  Speaker 1: of time, so ultimately anything can happen. So really this
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  Speaker 1: show has a little bit of everything. It's about phenomenal surfing.
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  Speaker 1: It's shot beautifully, but then it has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the drama and their strategy involved like you see on
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  Speaker 1: some of these other shows. Um, when I played football,
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  Speaker 1: I was always like a big surfing fan from a distance,
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  Speaker 1: and I got that I really looked up to and
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  Speaker 1: admired was Kelly Slater. And obviously, for people that know,
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  Speaker 1: he's an eleven time world champion surfing, a guy that's
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  Speaker 1: really sort of synonymous with the sport and he's really
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  Speaker 1: kind of transcended the sport as well. And when I
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  Speaker 1: found out that he was going to be on the
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  Speaker 1: show and it was a competition based show happening at
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  Speaker 1: the surf ranch Bend, for me, I knew at that
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  Speaker 1: point that that was definitely a project that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get involved in. That's uh, it's I watched US.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was it was the last week. Uh
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  Speaker 1: it is. It is interesting to see, you know, all
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  Speaker 1: these really good looking people competing over something of this
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  Speaker 1: and then like the alliances that the kind of the
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  Speaker 1: friendships that are built. Now you mentioned something so these
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  Speaker 1: are incredible surfers, but they're they're still like on the
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  Speaker 1: amateur level, so like this is a big break for
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  Speaker 1: them in a lot of ways to get to win
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  Speaker 1: this show and to have their no you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think golf, but like to get their tour card, like
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  Speaker 1: to be involved on the tour. UM as a host,
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  Speaker 1: what was the pressure like in the house like that
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  Speaker 1: These people take it really seriously the very beginning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great question, Ben, I think you hit it
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  Speaker 1: on the head that that's a really good analogy of
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  Speaker 1: getting the tour card in golf, getting on the Championship
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  Speaker 1: Tour the CT is virtually impossible, and we have incredible
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  Speaker 1: surface as you mentioned that are sort of they're all amazing,
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  Speaker 1: but they all have different levels of surfing viet and
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  Speaker 1: the junior ranks, they've been professional, but not on CT.
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  Speaker 1: We actually had two surfers on the show even right
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  Speaker 1: now or at the final tent, Zeke Lao and Bruno Zon,
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  Speaker 1: who have actually already competed on the c T. They
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  Speaker 1: then were off and now they're trying to get back on.
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  Speaker 1: So UM, to answer your question, there is tremendous pressure, UM.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why you see so much of the
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  Speaker 1: drama because I think of what's on the line. These
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  Speaker 1: are die hard surfers that understand that this really is
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  Speaker 1: like a do or die, last chance to make a
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  Speaker 1: type situation for them, um, and they just want this
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  Speaker 1: so that it's almost like when I was there hosting it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'd mentioned, hey, you guys might win a
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, and they're kind of like, uh, six figures,
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  Speaker 1: like a grand whatever, Like they want the tour card
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  Speaker 1: like that. That is what is so important to them.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, the pressure in the competition in the
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  Speaker 1: water was obviously something that was really huge. I think
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  Speaker 1: the one thing I really took away from it was
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  Speaker 1: the mental toughness and the emotional toughness of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these athletes because we just throw so much stuff
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  Speaker 1: at them and curveballs and twists and things that really
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  Speaker 1: never never anticipating, are never ready for. And then when
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  Speaker 1: the lights come on and they have to do their
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  Speaker 1: best and they have to perform time and time again,
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  Speaker 1: that they were able to do that, that's probably to
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  Speaker 1: me what was most impressive. So, speaking of curveballs and twists,
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  Speaker 1: does your experience having been a cast member on a
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  Speaker 1: reality show lend to you hosting in a different angle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: great question. You know it's funny like I sort of
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  Speaker 1: as the host of the show at times it's like
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  Speaker 1: former pro football player and their athletes, and I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to kind of guide them and give them some some
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  Speaker 1: motivation and purely for them because they are athletes and
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  Speaker 1: they are trying to get on the pro tour of
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  Speaker 1: a professional sport. But at the same time, you're right
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  Speaker 1: with with reality TV as a background as well for them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this this was all new. It's like all
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  Speaker 1: of us that get on reality the first time you
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  Speaker 1: see all the cameras, I'm not really sure what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: How vulnerable are you comfortable being, how much of yourself
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  Speaker 1: are you willing to share? How early into who? Um?
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  Speaker 1: I think all of that was was sort of a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: challenge for them as well. So like hosting the show,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: you sort of you wear a couple of different hats.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I would say ultimately for me, like I just I
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: want them all to win, and I've been trying to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: encourage them, and I think it was it wasn't necessarily
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: always like hey, now is a competition part, let's go
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you can do this tap in. It's sort of like, hey,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: when when you're not in the water and there's cameras around,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you know how you could beat yourself, feel confident, be vulnerable,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But that's at the same time be true to yourself
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and really kind of let let let yourself out and
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: let these people in that are watching at home. The
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: interesting thing to me too, You're gonna explain to me, um,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a kind of a cross over them
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: feeling with the Bachelor franchise and uh, different production company.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, what what why the crossover? So
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of people and if you don't mind
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned because I don't know on the top of my
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: head from this, you know from the Bachelor franchise that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: appear yes, from the show, but like why the crossover? Well,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I think the timing of the episode, so we come
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: on air right after Bachelor in Paradise, So I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: this sort of keeps a little bit of a continuity
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: from a theme standpoint. To your point, there are people
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: from Bachelor that that certainly Bachelor Nation will recognize. Hannah
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and from Peter season, Mike Johnson from Hannah Brown season.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: They're both on the show as well, and they're sort
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of setting up some of the challenges people that have
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: seen the show the last two weeks. No that obviously
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: there's challenges in the pool. There's a lot of kind
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of fun challenges outside of the pool as well, where
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: there's team teamwork involved or whatever that helps give them
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: advantages later once they get back on the wave. So
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: we have people from Bachelor Nation have been on the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Bachelard and Bachelorette in the show as well, So there,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I think they were just trying to keep some form
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of continuity on Mondays and two days coming on after
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise as we do. Okay, you can
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have three straight hours of reality TV and have similar characters. Um, okay,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So did you get inspired to do any surfing it
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: of your own before or after? How do you ever
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: surf before? So? I'm from Ottawa, Canada, which as we
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: all know, is like the mecca of pro surfing. The
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: great surfers in the world come from Motto and I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: did zero surf growing up, as I did a lot
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of snow surfing. I think all that snowboarding, um, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted you know, I tried it. It's so hard. Um.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You know when people are really good at their job
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and then you watch them do it, you're like, oh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I could totally do that. It's like really good. It's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like it's like, you both on this podcast so good
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: at hosting it. You can probably make a lot of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: people at home feel like I could probably host a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: podcast tomorrow, no problem. And then when they start to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: do what they realize how hard it is. That's what
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: That's what pro surfers due to people like me. I'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: terrible at surfing and I wasn't allowed to do a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: lot of surfing on the show because they were afraid
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of me getting hurt, and I had to sign this
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like this like contract that said I wasn't allowed to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: go into water and actually get on the board. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: may have like snuck and once or twice and tried,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: but like, dude, I'm terrible. As a former pro athlete,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: like you think, like, well, I played pro football. Absolutely
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I a coordination so that I absolutely have to be
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: able to figure this out. It is. It is a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: different level anyone in the world that's ever tried surfing,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter how
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: much snowboarding you've done what your athletic background is. It
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: is a difficult, difficult thing to pick up. Hey, Ben,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: ABC wasn't too concerned about how we were gonna fair,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and we did things that we had never done before
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: on Winter Games. I'm just thinking, like six ft four,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: pretty gagly balance has never been by thing on a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: surfboard that that would be television. That's stuff I know
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: my grandma would watch. I think we have I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: we have a new show. It's like for it's like
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation Surfing the whole Ultimate Surfer with just Bachelor
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that'd be phenomenal. Well, that kind of leaves them the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: next question, and does anybody from Ultimate Surfer? Uh? Do
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you feel like there could have been a good participant
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor in Paradise, Like is there any personalities there
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like that would they would thrive? Oh? Yeah, I think so.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Like Tia Blanco in I think that is one Coat
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Smith is like my favorite. Like that dude has so
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: much personality. He's he's tremendous and he was so comfortable
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in front of the cameras. He's just so comfortable being himself.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think I think those two Bachelor in Paradise, I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: think would have ended up being really good contested. Are
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: we gonna get a chance to talk about I was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just gonna say, have you been keeping up with the show? Yes?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I have. I want to get into this with you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but we would love that. Okay, So yeah,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: have you did you watch this this episode? Yeah? Did
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you watch our screener that we sent you? Okay, okay, okay, no, okay,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So let's talk in general of the season. Sorry, you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: gonna have to wait till tonight, Jesse to watch them
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: like I was gonna. I was gonna like trying to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: get up like my iPad or something to watch Bachelor
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in Paradise without commercials is a dream come true. I know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, really it takes two hours and it cuts
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it down into what would you say, like minutes? Yeah, minutes? Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that'd be idea, just power through. So I knew that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this season The Best Were in Paradise was going to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: be tremendous just based on the people on the show.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So when carl or Noah or Queen Victoria now got
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: us Victoria, We're gonna be on, I just knew this
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: was going to be outstanding. How interesting has it been
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: though it's been funny for me to watch and just
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: see like Brennan come in on day one, and I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: feel like when Brennan comes in, he's the hot commodity
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: right away, all the women are talking about and people
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: want to make out, like that's the one that they
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have their eyes set on. Right Thomas rolls in last week,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and I feel like he sort of took he sort
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of took the one seed real quick and took Serena
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at like he takes from the day they're riding jet
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: skis or whatever that thing was and they're making out
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in the water, and then poor grocery store Joe is
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: like going to go home again, Like we spend the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: first hour of every episode thinking grocery store Joe's going home,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: he's not sure what's happening. But then but then, how
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: about your boy agent Riley rolling? And now, like tell
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: me like that dude, Like if there was a definition
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of alpha, yeah, that's Agent Riley right Like Riley right
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: now is and it's like he's not even like not
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: only is he like focusing his attention on the women,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like he has zero time for the other dudes, Like
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he's not trying to make friends with anybody. He's like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: gonna take your day. He's gonna take or he's gonna
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: eat like a cow's tongue. He's gonna eat the he's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: gonna eat like raw tripe and like have zero, like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: zero problem with that. And then and then there's extracurricular
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: activity after Like right now, it is like the show.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: For me, it has been unbelievable and it's been funny
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to sort of watch the dynamic through through these last
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: two weeks. How do you guys feel? I don't disagree
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: with you. I think the Riley thing has been the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: most interesting to me because he comes in, he says
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: very few words. He really just like shows off those arms,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: which everybody watching is like, yeah, that guy's just uh
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and then he like am I just disappears and it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like but he's I feel like he's kind of that Quae,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like that silent type that when he speaks, everybody's gonna listen,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and so he's gonna have a lot of control in
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the house as things continue, especially as havoc and chaos
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: are ensuing. Um, but it's been a fun season for me.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Now I'll thirt it to actually give her thoughts, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: after she's done. I would love to hear where you
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: think of the guest hosting too. You know some of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: these guys that are stepping in there and hosting. Obviously
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you've hosted a few things for this company, um post,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know your time on The Bachelor, So Ashley, what
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: do you think? And then just do what you think
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of the host? Oh, I definitely find myself more invested
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in certain storylines and others. Uh, definitely a grocery short.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Joe and Serena, especially what you see their date tonight.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: It's so cute. And then I just love taj Wan.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Do you love taj Wan? Like love? And the fact
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that she's dating like the fact that she dated Trey's uncle.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: To me, it's still it's like mind blowing to me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You've got to go to his to Tray's instagram where
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's a picture of the uncle and you can see
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that the uncle's a very nice little thing. And then, um,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I just love Natasha too, and I feel like she's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a basket screwed over, So I'm pretty invested in where
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: she her love life goes. Yeah, I thought it was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I thought it was cool with Serena did too, like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: she she stayed true to grocery store Joe, you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, and I wasn't. Maybe you guys called
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that like you saw it coming, and she's like, I'm
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: gonna go into state, but you know, don't, like, don't worry,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: wink wink, It's all good. Like I really thought that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was that was done. I was concerned, Yeah, I was.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So what do you think of the guest House? I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: feel like you should have been on that list. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, well, I mean i've I personally have liked
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: sort of the having kind of like there's been you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: know too, I guess, well, technically two episodes each, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it's been kind of nice to kind of get a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of I found in totally different styles where
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I think, like you get like the comedian aspect with
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: David Spade. I thought Lance was awesome. I thought he
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: was tremendous to um and brought a lot. And of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: course there's there's more coming down down the pipeline, right,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: is a Little John gonna host this? Yes? Are you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: guys a little tired of the Bachelor pair? The the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Little John intros Bachelor Paradise? Yeah? Yeah, it's funny at first,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and then I was like, Okay, not every time. The
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: first time, it's like super exciting after a couple of times,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like I expected. Now, Jesse, I do have a question.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You you are I'm gonna call you um A very
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: experience Like I said you you're one of the busiest
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: people entertainments. You're a professional host who had as experience
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: at all levels now on morning television, talk show, were
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: ali television, I would say I am like a D
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: level host where I've stepped into stepped into television and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: hosted just a few things, um, which makes it still
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: fun for me because there's always something new to experience. Now.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We talked about it last week, but there is a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: moment with Lance Bass, who I think has done some
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: good hosting in his his um his career. I think
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he's been on a couple of shows. But Riley is
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: sitting there on his day and they just start making
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: out and Lance is standing there in the room with them.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: As a professional host. What would you have done in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that scenario? Because Lance readily admitius, I didn't know what
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to do. I didn't know how to respond. I didn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: know to leave to videotape to watch to make a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: joke like what would you have done? Yeah, I mean no,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it's like, actually I think Lance, I mean, I don't
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: know that that that's obviously a tricky thing. I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: as you guys know, like from from like hosting, Um,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you have to start of let that moment play out.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And it's like you either like you obviously can't interrupt it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You can't make a joke about it. You can't be like, guys,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I got more questions on the card. We've got some
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: more uh, we got some more tripe. We gotta let's go.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You have to sort of let that happen. That that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: great television. Everybody at home and Bachelornation, we're all watching
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that makeout session after they both just ate tongue and stuff,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and we're like, wow, this is crazy. It's kind of gross,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: but it's awesome. There's a connection whatever, um, and you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: have to let it happen. It was weird that, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's like it's awkward for him, I'm sure because you're
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you're standing there and you're like like looking around you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: like do you like moonwalk like like off camera. I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: mean I think he handled that probably as well as
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: as well as anybody could. I don't know. Is that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: something that you noticed right away when you saw it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I just think about like those scenarios and in hosting
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and Paradise has got to be pretty difficult, especially
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: even the Bachelor in these moments, because you're trying to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: guide people too intimacy and still once intencit exists, you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: no longer feel like you need to be in the room.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yet he was, so I just I thought that was
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: one of the most Like there's always that moment during
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise where uh, you feel like you can
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: relate with the people there or the host. And I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: feel like I could really relate with Lance, and probably
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of the audience did. I would have like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: grabbed my phone and been like, yeah, how my investments
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: do start finding things like to the Patriots, like they
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: picked a starting quarterback and what's happening like trying to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just try to look busy while you're buying yourself in
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a room with two people making out, Jesse, I have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to be nosy for a second. I just noticed that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you're wearing a wedding band. I am, does that? What
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm married? Oh? You are married? Yeah?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I thought that you said before that you were engaged
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: when you were like, you're engaged, and I was like, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I was engaged. He was he was engaged. Okay, so
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: now you're married. So you guys got did you guys
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: get a Did you have like a pandemic wedding? We did? Actually,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it was it. I think it breaks my heart worse
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: than it than it hurt Emily Um. We had had
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: this beautiful wedding planned. It was supposed to take part
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: last summer in France and province and it was going
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to be amazing. I was so excited, and because of
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, obviously we decided to postpone that We're supposed
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to do it again this past summer in July, same place,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: same crowd, everything. I was super stoked and ready and excited.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: But the pandemic didn't cooperate. And obviously we're one couple
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: in millions around the world that this is impacted. Certainly
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: not lost. Honest. Her family's Brazilian um, so the situation
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in Brazil wasn't conducive to her family being able to travel.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I'm Canadian, had a lot of friends back home that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that weren't able to leave the country and travel at
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the time, so we made the really difficult decision to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: cancel it. Um. Emily and I had done a very
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: small intimate wedding, really really small um here around where
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: we live on the East Coast, just just to just
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to have have that moment, have our day UM, because
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: we've been looking so forward to it for for a
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: very long time and we're anxious to to kind of
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: take the next step. I'm still hoping that next summer
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: we can do something with our parents. It breaks my
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: heart that that that my parents and her parents weren't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: there to see it happen. And uh so I want
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to do something next summer where we can get our
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: at least our families together and just do something symbolic.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be like a big, big
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to do a big thing um. But yeah, that was
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, we I'm so happy we went
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: ahead and did it anyways, but it was it was
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a crazy It's been a crazy year and a half
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: these last two years trying to kind of navigate and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: orchestrate all that stuff because it was was emotional and
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it was tough. I'm so sorry and sad for you, Jessin.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I got engaged March of last year and uh, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: we've planned it out to like November is our our
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: hope date to where we have a wedding. But you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you never know what life's gonna look like. UM. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: we've see, we've heard a ton of stories from people
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: just navigating this, and that is the tough part. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: think weddings and funerals are the two things that like
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: just break your heart for for anybody out there, especially
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: when the parents can't be involved and you can't attend
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: those those moments that you really want to be at. UM.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: But you got married and that's the big deal. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: so as we close up here with you, UM again,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it's Jesse Palmer, the host of The Ultimate Surfer UM,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a new show that ABC is kicking off that everybody
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: should check out, even if you're not a surf fan,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that has everything. It's Jesse said at the beginning that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that you want in reality television, the drama, that love,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the competition, UM, the personalities. How has married life been?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Now you're married? So for any be out there listening,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: how you're holding up? It's been great. I mean it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know, it's Uh, we've been together about almost five
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: years so this was this was something to her and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I had both been really really looking forward to. I mean,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: this thing weighs a ton, by the way, like dragging
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: my knuckles on the ground, like no one told me.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I fidget with this all the time. Jared does not stop.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: He goes like this all day long. And then sometimes
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: don't drop it in the car and I'm like, put
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that thing on your finger and came in there. You
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and Emily are exactly last night at dinner, She's like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: can you put on you you know, you try to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: use the mad like quiet voice like you had a
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: crowded restaurant. Put the finger and leave it on your finger.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I've never worn jewelry in my life, like I just
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: wore watches like I never I've never had any rings,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and this thing, it's so I just cannot stop fidgeting,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and I like fidgeting with it. And she's like, you're
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: gonna drop it. You're gonna drop it into place and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to get it back. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: so that is my daily struggle. That's the hardest part
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of marriage really for me. Right now. It's just it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: just keeping this thing on my finger. Everything everything I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: thinking about just a little note here and Jessicin I've
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: had this conversation a few times. Today I actually got
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: sent up the wedding ring that she designed for me.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited at But she did this, I think
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: in a passive aggressive way, um because I had told
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: her I want to get a tattoo of my ring
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: because I'm worried that I'm gonna mess with it all
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the time and that I'm gonna not like that I'm
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: gonna lose it and then it would break my heart.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And she's like, that's a good idea, you should do that.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But I'm also going to get you a ring. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling at some point I'm going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: get the I want you to wear your ring thing,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you know so. But anyway, Jesse, thank you so much
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: for joining us. Uh, it means a lot. Again. Can
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you tell everybody where they can watch The Ultimate Surfer? Absolutely?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Surfer. It's on ABC Mondays and Tuesdays immediately following
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. Thanks Jesse, You're awesome, guys. I really
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Congrats you both again and all the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: great news. You guys deserve everything that come with your way.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you too, Ben. Have I ever told you this
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: story about Jared losing his wedding ring at the Blue
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Lagoon when we were only married for three months? No,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but I would love to hear that. It is the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: weirdest story ever. I want to see if Jared come
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in here, because he tells it way better than I do. Jared, Jared,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Jared was okay. So I was just telling Ben that
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you lost your wedding ring at the Blue Lagoon,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So I wanted you to tell the story because I
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: feel like you do a better job than me. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'll start out by saying that when you get to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the Blue Lagoon, they tell you to take off like
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: any valuable jewelry, including your wedding rings, which sounds like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: they they're just ready to steal it um. But it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: because the acids or whatever that are in the Blue
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Agoon in Iceland, they tarnish real gold and silver. So
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Jared took off his wedding ring and didn't put it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: anywhere in a pocket, in a backpack or in a pocket,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: literally just put it loosely in the locker. Well, there's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: signs obviously say take off wedding rings, jewelry, blah blah
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So I'm you know, she goes to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: her women's locker. I go to my men's locker. I'm
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: taking everything off. So you stripped down to your bathing
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: suit and then I put the robe on, and I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I gotta put take my ring off.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And so my locker was still open. So I took
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: my ring off and I just put it in the locker.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't blocked it right there. I put my ring
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: in a pocket, in a pocket, in a pocket in
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: my backpack. I'm patting you on the back for it
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: right now. So fast forward a couple of hours. We're
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in the Bluegon. I go back to the locker, get changed,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: put everything back on. Mind you, this was only a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: few months after we got married, three months, so I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: hadn't been wearing a ring. I've never won a ring,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: so I'm very I'm not used to it yet. Anyway,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: in the car again, in the car we pull off,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Ashley goes, where's your wedding ring? I immediately start stop
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the car. My stomach drops. He jokes with me all
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the time, though, like he such a joker, and he
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: tries to fool me all the time, so I think
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: he's gonna like pull it out of his pocket or something.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I was literally, I was literally the boy who cried
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: wolf in that moment because I was like, oh and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: then so I immediately stopped the car put her reverse
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and she's like, you're joking, and I say, I am
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: not joking. It's in the locker right now. So I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: go back into the area. They let me go back
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: into the men's locker room, which was very nice to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: them because you have to pay before getting into the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: locker room. But I told him I lost my ring.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Go back in the locker room. The
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: door is still open, so I'm thinking it's it's got
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to still be there. My locker is still open. No ring.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I look on the floor, I look everywhere around. There
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: no wedding band. I'm like, you gotta be freaking kidding me.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Three months after my wedding, I lose my Neil Rain
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Neil Lane wedding band. So then I asked all the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the I asked a couple of people that work there,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and then one guy was like, oh, you lost your
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: wedding band? Who worked there? And I said yeah, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if it's like on top,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I can't find anywhere nobody's reported it to Lost and Found.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And he starts like walking to the lockers with me.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, what are we doing. It's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: not there. I already checked my locker in the surrounding
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: area and I told you this, But he's like, no,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: nobody reported anything. And I was like, I don't know
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: where it could be and you know, and I'm I'm
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: telling him the story of when I took it off
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: where it went to try to give him any idea
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of where this possibly could be. And he starts, because
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: he has a key to all the lockers, so he
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: opens the locker above mine, and in my head, I'm like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: what is this guy doing? And then he opened it
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: up and there was somebody's stuff in there, sneakers, pants,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: somebody else's stuff, and then right in the middle on
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the front was a wedding band and he's like, is
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this yours? And I and I looked at it. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: was like, can I reach in and grab it? He's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm like, okay, I grab it and I
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: look at the inscription and I know that it's my
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: wedding band fits my finger and I'm like, uh, yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that's mine. He's like all right, cool, and then I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: was like okay, bye, and then I walked out and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell just happened? How did my
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: wedding band get in the locker above mine? And how
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the hell did that guy know that it was in
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that locker unless it was a lucky guest and he
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: was going to open up all the lockers in the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: surrounding area, and it just so happened that the first
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: locker he opened up, the wedding band was in there,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and he just let you leave with it, like just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you claimed it. Yeah, he opened up somebody else's locker.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I could have been like, yep, these are my pantsies,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: are my sneakers? I gotta go see bye. Well, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: guess the more of the story is, Jared, you do
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: care about your wedding band. Ashley cares a lot more
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: about your wedding band. And then I should get a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: tattoo because tattoos don't wear off in so you're gonna
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: get a tattoo on your finger. Huh, that's I think
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I'm doing with Jared thinks for joining us things for
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: sharing the story. Hey, good luck with the tattoo. No problem, guys,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: anytime I'll be in the next room. It's time for
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: bachelor headlines. It's a big week obviously. Are very first
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: story is one that will blow in your mind. Staying
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: on the edge of your seat for this headline. The
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: news bat You Nations, Ashley, I Can Eddie and jaredy
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: him On reveals sex of their first babies. We talked
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: about the beginning, Ashley, We've already talked about having a boy,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: but tell us all the emotions around it. Um, well,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it's uh. I was very much hoping for a girl,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and I just have to be honest there. I told everyone,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and I told so much press. I was like, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: hope it's a girl. I hope it's a girl, but um,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I'm I will love and I'm and I'm getting very
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: used to the idea of having a boy, and I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: just want him to be like a little Jared. I go, Jared,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: since or having a boy, I need to create. We
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: need to make sure that we create him just like you,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: so that one day a girl out there who's as
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: crazy as me can find her prince charming in our son. Um, yeah, Um,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: so I hope that you know we are able to
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: raise him as wonderful as a gentleman as Jared's parents
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: raised him. Um. He If we do have a name
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: picked out, I joked in our announcement that it wasn't
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be Tom or Brady. And I'll be honest, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: think the name Brady is actually adorable. But um, we
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: we already have a family dog named Brady. Jared's parents
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: dog is Brady, after Tom Brady, so it would just
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: be weird for us to name the son Brady as well.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And I've had a name for a boy. I didn't
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: have a name picked out for a girl, but I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: had a name picked out for a boy since I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was like twenty years old, and Jared loved it so
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: much as well. And we recently came up with the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: middle name that I think pairs so beautifully with it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: So it's really nice to kind of be saying, um,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, referring to him by his name. I'm like, Jared,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: put your hand on the belly and say hello to Beep.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah's name announced you gonna do? I might
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: tease it and like have some fun with it, like
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks leading up to the birth, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't plan on revealing it until he's here.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. Um, well, big news. Super super
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: happy for the two of you. Obviously, no matter what
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: we knew, you're gonna be happy. Yes, I mean I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I love him already of course. Yeah, that's just super fun.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just a crazy cool rad
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that we've been on with you and and through all
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: this stuff. So um. Also, you showed some pictures of
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: baby bump. It's out there, it's happening. It's out there,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it's happening. It fluctuates though, guys. Sometimes I like post
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: a picture when I'm pretty bloated and it's like, oh
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: my god, she's like really got a bump. And then
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes like I'll wake up and nobody would ever know
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that there is a baby in there. So it fluctuates,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and I think it'll start being more of a permanent
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: thing in the next week or two. Yeah. Wow, this
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: is crazy, just being so fast you with baby inside
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: of you. So wild. Um. Well, other headlines outside of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared, and that's obviously a big headline and fascination,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: but Katie Thurst and hints that when she and Mollins
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: will tie the knot this according to us, She says
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: not soon at all. So yeah, it says he's Canadians,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: so we have a lot to work through first. Very interesting, Yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: reading that as you will. Um. Also, Blake moys, this
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: is an interesting one for me. I kind of related
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: with a little bit. Um. But he says he admits
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that Katie Thurston's great Grippo drama did take away from
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: their love story. Um. Yeah, that one's I'm glad that
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he's being honest about it though, because we were all wondering.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: He said, do I think that the whole Greg thing
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: did take away from the love story? Unfortunately? Yeah? Um,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it sucks that it was such a focal point for
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: someone who didn't actually end up with her. Unfortunately. It's
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is for people who
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: think it should have been Greg. I don't know if
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: anybody really felt like should especially I don't. I haven't
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: found any of those people out there, but I do
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: get that, you know, I like that he's honest that
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it did take away a little bit. That's tough, um,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you know, just to see that go down. It's a
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: weird situation where you're engaged and you're happy, yet this
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: is kind of weighing over you, and then you're seeing
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the headlines and um, it just does. It's an awkward
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of months, it does go away and people
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: stop talking about over time, but at the very beginning,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's hard to consume. So I mean, kudos
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to him for being honest, because it feels like an
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: honest Um. I mean, it's got to be so frustrating.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: You know, you end up like engaged and then you
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: feel like you can't even celebrate it with the people
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: who watched it. Well, this one's odd. Thomas Jacobs, the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: big old tall guy that on Paradise he said, you
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: want to change a damn thing about his behavior? This,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: according to E said this to to Brian and uh
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and Mike on their podcast, and Uh, I find that interesting,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: do you? Uh? Sort of yeah, But I also still
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: think that I still think that Thomas gets villainized for
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: very few reasons, just for him saying that he had
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts that maybe he could become the Bachelor. If this
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: is really what we're still going off of, I don't know. Um,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So it says this he goes, You're not going to
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: please everyone. One of the reasons why I think things
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: went so sideways for me was because I was running
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: around trying to make everyone as happy as possible at
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: all times. And more often than not, if you're doing that,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you're doing it to sacrifice yourself. Uh. He says, never
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: leave your foundational principles of who you are. Um. He
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: just said that he's like, was emotionally charged and he
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: felt like he was like diving into a bowl in
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a china shop didn't work out. I get it. I mean,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I think for my like opinion, and obviously the reason
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: this podcast exist is because we have an opinion. Um.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I do think he got villainys for unnecessary reasons.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I also think that he could have done some things differently,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: especially when he communicated people, and then some of the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: decisions he made to like kind mostly in Paradise. Really
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: what's the date right? Yeah? Definitely. Um. And on this
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: week's episode, obviously like Aaron and him don't get along,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and then he makes out with Tammy, which he could
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: have said, Hey, can we go somewhere else and do this?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: They're like, I mean, it's hard to say given the moment, right,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: he could have been really into it, but it does
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: feel like he's going after like the people that are
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: mostly hurt by him the most, like the most. Um,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: but it's also good television and it's fun to watch.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I guess. Um, Well, this is the big headline and
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: we read into it as much as you want. But
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison remember that guy. He says he's not ready
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to retire after Batchelor exit, isn't holding any grudges this
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: according to US, so this is some sores at US
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Weekly says, Chris Harrison is truly doing great. He's really
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: enjoying this time with his kids and growing his relationship
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: with Lauren Zeema. He lives a low key life in Texas.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: When he's not taking trips or going on vacation, He's
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: soaking in these moments of not working and taking time
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: for himself and his family. He celebrated his s with
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: You his birthday last month, and recently celebrated his third
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: anniversary with Lauren. He sees at this time almost a
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: neat chapter in his life and is figuring out what's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: going to be his next best move. Um. He says
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he still keeps in touch with some crew and former
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelor and you know the cast, and then
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: he says it's the insider explains that everyone who was
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: close to him on the show really misses him and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: wishes he was still part of the show. He reads
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: messages from fans and post on social media all the time. Um,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: he says, he is not the host anymore, but he
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: still loves Bachelor Nation. Doesn't hold any grudges, which is
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: very sweet, and he says, especially with the fans, yeah, well,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: always give me an updates on Chris and where he's
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: at life. But also it's beast and I have something
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in common. Made it very open that my dream job
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: would be to host the Bachelor over fifty show or sixty,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know which one it is, but the senior
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: senior show. And uh Layne's bass is coming out very
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: publicly and saying it would be a dream job for
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: him to host Bachelor in Paradise. This is according to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: et So he says that they have not asked him
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to be the permanent host, and of course that's going
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to depend on Bachelor Nation out there. Um, but he says,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I'm part of Bachelor Nation, so I understand how volatile,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: we can get we're very opinionated. If they like me. Um,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, yes,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: of course, it would be a dream come true to
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: be able to host a show like that. Um. That
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: was God being very nice to me because I'm a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: huge fan, especially a Bachelor in Paradise. I like all
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor shows, but Bachelor in Paradise is just my
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: summer indulgence. I love it so much so when they
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: asked me to be a host, I flipped. I'm like,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk into paradise. He says that coming
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: off of you know, Chris Harrison's footsteps. He says, those
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: are these are tough shoes to fill. For sure. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: love me some Chris Harrison. UM, but I need to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: put my little two cents in here now because I mean,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I missed Chris. But if Chris isn't really
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: not coming back, which we really know he's not, uh,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and we really have to talk about a future host.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really really liked Lance's performance this week
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: as host, and it was only two episodes and I
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: felt like it could have totally been more, wanted more.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: There was only a few scenes from him, but what
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: we saw, I thought he really shined. He was just
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: very warm and comforting too. And he was really warm
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: recomforting to the contestants. And I felt like he was
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: just very conversational, like he was the kind of guy
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: that you could like sit down just chat with, as
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: we saw with him with Natasha this week, and very natural.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've really felt it. Yes, I do
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: think he'd be more appropriate for Paradise than say, maybe
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the main show. But I'm also totally down to see
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Lance try to host the main show. Um, what are
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? Am I being biased as a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: huge Insing fan and like and and personally knowing Leans,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of course you're biased. I mean I think he did
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: it awesome, But I don't think he could have disappointed you,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: because like he was gonna be lands and he knew
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: what he was gonna bring to the table when he
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: came in. He was a little funny, but he was carrying.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: We've been around him. He cares deeply, uh for the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: people around him. He's he's just I mean, I remember
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: with him in Vegas and we spent a good hour
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: um at the Plant Planet Hollywood, just chatting with him
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: and he was incredible, So you're biased because he liked him,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: but you like him for a good reason. And I
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: think it death fit and I think it makes sense.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, there's a lot of changes happening.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: We still don't have a new host announced, we don't
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: have a Bachelor announced, we don't have a Paradise host announced. Um,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and obviously Bachelorette is being filmed right now, uh with
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Caitlin and Taitia, but we don't know where that goes.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Are they in for the long haul? Are they're gonna
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: be switching it up? There's just so many things still
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: yet to be seen with this ranch. Eyes. Um, so
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: rolling out to the edge of our seats, we'll be
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: here the whole time. It almost famous talking about it well.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Final headline of the week, The Batchlor's Rachel Kirknew is
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: in a good place with Matt James. Her quote is
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: it was a journey this according to people. Yeah. After that,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: she says, I think we're in a really good place.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I think we've had a lot of love come our way.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: But I like to think that even though people have
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: been super super nice, we just want to focus on
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: each other and put all that aside and let the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: noise stay a little bit more quiet these days. It's
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: been good, though, We've been good. Just needed time, is
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: really what they've been kind of saying, the two of them, um.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And it's nice for them to be doing their own
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: thing and spending a lot of time together. Yeah, it's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it's good to see them together. And uh, you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I personally, as a fan, would just like to see
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and hear kind of how they navigated through that, because
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I think so many people out there trying to navigate
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: through those really difficult circumstances and relationships and friendships and
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: family dynamics, um or just people they run into. And
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: so they obviously have worked through a lot based on
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: when we last saw them, which is you know, talk
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: about it, which is really on the after show, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: now you know, they're spending a ton of time together
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and enjoying each other's companies. So it'd be great to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: hear that. Um. I mean, I don't think they're ever
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: gonna like come on a reunion show, you know, but
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I am curious as well. I would like to see it,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: but it probably won't happen. No, Well, maybe we can
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: happen here on listening a podcast we'll see give a shot. Well,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have here today. Actually, thank
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you for breaking them down. We're gonna take a break,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna break down this week's episode
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. It is a good one. We're
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: gonna break down this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: are tremendous brand news. Again, we have a crazy good
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: team here. Uh, Emma just wrote out the most detailed
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: notes for us to run through. Ashley has a lot
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: of thoughts along with these notes. So Ashley, let's get
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: us started now. We begin this episode, uh with uh
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: kind of running off of the Joe and Serena um reconnection. Obviously,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Riley Marissa are still canoodling um. Connor is waking up
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: not knowing where Marissa is or when he came home. Uh,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: there's relationships forming. Ashley. What do you think? How are
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you feeling as you begin and dive into this week's episode.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're probably most concerned for Connor. The
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: beating of the episode, You're like, Wow, he's gonna have
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to find out that the girl he really likes went
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to the Boom Boom room the night before. Um, but
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like also it's just so obvious that Marissa and Riley
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: make more so much more sense than Marissa and Connor
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that like I actually don't even feel as bad as
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I should. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's like no, I'm sorry, dude,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But like if you saw, it's evident. There's just like
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: their chemistry is tangible, like you like you know, there's
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a headline this week where Risi got a lot of
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: hate for her time with Riley in the Boom Boom
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: room after their day. Now, we don't really know what
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: happened there and nor is it really any of our business,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: but I think just to take that into consideration, like
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: the reason they're in that room is because like they
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: were both very into each other, Like it was very clear.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: And then the other big moment early on the episode
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: is that we have Chasen and a guy named Chris, who,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: like nobody knows has a viewing audience, but apparently in
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Days community, Chris was well known really good friends
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: with some of the guys, including Chason, which is why
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: they went down together. And he was number white, number
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: one sort of on just Snia's list to be there.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: She said that she wanted Chris to be there and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Ivan to be there. And even though we feel like
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Jenia and Ivan were going so strong that she wouldn't
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: have said yes to a date, oh she did and
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: she didn't have any hesitants. I would say this, that
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: was a relationship. I was feeling more her over then, obviously,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: kind of like I felt for Ivan, because I did
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: think that this was a shock or Chris walks down
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the stairs and like, I don't know this Chris guy,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, he doesn't stand a chance against Ivan,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like Ivan is has always been like a very good communicator,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: very good looking guy, cared deeply and so like I was.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly was more shocked at like what
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: happened there with Justina and I. I'm another backstory to
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: like how she even knew this Chris guy existed? No,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: me too. Are we horrible for not remembering him from
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Player slash Tatia season? Probably not very good at jobs,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: but like the anomaly here, No, I think that we
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: were like speaking the audience was relating to us right now.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even know that he made it to the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Tatia part of the season. Yeah, it's he came out
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, um, and maybe he's like changed his look.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: That could have been. I'm wondering if, like maybe he
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: had a different look during that season. But I think
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: he also mentioned he was like there for night one.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: He was just there from night one or yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I think No, I don't think so. I only say
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that because it seems like he got so close to
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of those guys. Regardless of wherever he stood
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: during that season, He's there and he's making a splash
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: in Paradise because just Sen is into him. So Jason
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: takes Deandra on the day in Deandra is currently with Carl, right,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: but like they're not like a strong couple couple, Like
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: they were friendly, flirty, maybe kissed a few times enough
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: for him to give her the rose last week, but
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like nobody is like, oh, what a great love story
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: that Carl and DeAndre. Anyway, so it's a double day.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: They do this tan trick thing, which we've seen so
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: many times in the show where it's like basically like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a sensual experience where like there's not a lot of touching,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but there's like a lot of well I guess there's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: some touching, but like they're blowing on each other. They're
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: touching without it being coming super sexual. I guess it
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: feels a little sexual. But um, chasen and and Deandra,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: like she says she feels really comfortable with him. I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: think they like each other, but I also don't think
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that there's like some mind blowing connection there. But then
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: with just Senia, she gets like super honest, and she
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: tells Chris that she was the main person that she
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to see in Paradise, and she says that, um,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: she and I don't have had a really good thing
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: go on, but something's been missing, and that missing thing
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: she feels with Chris. So right then you're like, oh, crop,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that I've been and just said you
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: might be over It's I wonder if Chris. I'm gonna
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: look up to see when Chris exactly said goodbye, because
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was one guy there that I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: really liked um and I wonder if it was him
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have his hair slicked down anymore. I
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: don't know anyways, Um the date, I feel like those
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: dates set you up, um to have a connection, and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I like, you know what I'm saying, like, when you're
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: like two beautiful humans like on a beach, you've obviously
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: said yes to a day, so there's some type of
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: attraction and then you're like rolling on each other, blowing
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: on each other, tickling each other, and like like it
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: feels like it's gonna set you up to have a
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: connection more than it doesn't. Yes and no, Like if
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: you don't like it, if it's happening to you and
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you're like not feeling it, then you're like, Okay, I
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: know this is not gonna work for this person, or
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: can go the extreme out of the opposite way, right,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like you have to have some
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: sort of physical chemistry with that person to to enjoy
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the date at all. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be so grossed
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: out if, like I realized that there was like nothing
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: there and he was blowing his breath on me. So
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Chris was eliminated week one of clear Seasons. Yeah, he
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't even around. So how did she feel like she
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: How could she put him on a list? You didn't
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: know anything about him. I guess she just thought it
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: was cute. Yeah, I mean they what do they do?
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: So tell us this? When you go on parodies, so
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: they send you a list of potential cast numbers. No,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: they basically say, like who from other seasons would you
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: be into interesting in the world you found like I mean, jeez,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: this is when we get paid for Hiven know he existed. Well, anyways,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: they on their date, they come back, they kiss with
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the strawberry in between their mouth. Yeah, she said it
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: was the best strawberry she's ever had, So there's obviously
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: something there. Maybe the strawberry is better than the kiss,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: or maybe the kiss added to the strawberry. Well, there's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: a weird moment here that I want to highlight um
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: where they all come back to the beach and Carl
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: takes Sandra away and chasing like follows, which is a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: very odd especially Yeah, it's weird for for me to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: watch in Paradise. It's like one thing I'm getting over
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: as a fan who's never been done there is like, Hey,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: people date other people and they like all kind of
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: walk off and start talking. They have stuff to work
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: through into like navigate that they need some alone time for.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, does Carl like drive half the people crazy? Yes?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Did he have something going with her? Definitely? And so
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like give him his space to like talking now, and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Jason just like stands over in this way. That just
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: really like urg me. Yeah, it annoyed me too, just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, dude, this is paradise. It's not
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette where you need to fight for time and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you only get ten to fifteen minutes of alone time
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: like every five days. This is paradise where you are
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: literally living together. Um, you will find time to chat
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: with her, don't You do not have to interrupt and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: don't have to feel I mean, I guess you can
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: say he was feeling threatened and that he didn't want
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: them to have alone time because like he was word
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: that they would like rekindle something during that alone time.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: But I just felt like it was inappropriate for paradise
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: when you have pretty much all the time in the world. Yeah,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: it felt weird. It felt hard to watch, and just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: felt like you didn't need to be doing that. Well, Um,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I wanted to fast forward. I want to make a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: note here. One thing that happened with this episode that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I was a little frustrated with was I felt like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: we really highlighted a few couples and we didn't talk
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: about a lot of the both there mean, there were
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: some people who literally had no camera time. Yeah no,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: and Abigail like where are they at this and they're
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: kind of like the ones just having their relationship off
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: this side. We obviously um totally missed him. We didn't
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: get a ton of time with bo. I mean, we
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: got enough to know where they're at. Our favorite um
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Taj is like on like she's just like off the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: camera for most of the episode. We have no clue
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: she has a connection at all, separate at the end
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: where she was amazing she always is, She's just hilarious.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: She says, what's on her mind? But I want to know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: like I want to see her fall and like we
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: don't know where her and traced and probably not that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: great and it doesn't seem to be well and and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: really the heart so let's note that that I was
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: upset that we can to see some of those people.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: But the heart of the episode really starts when Mariot
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Paul's Kenny aside and tells him that they have something good,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: but also that she's kind of like, I mean, I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: took it as she was saying, Hey, I want to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: date other people, which again I've now gotten to this
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: point from talking to you and talking to other guests
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: that like, that's sceptible still right now in paradise, but
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: if she dates other people, I feel like he could
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: be able to date other people. What did you think
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: about this? There is a lot. I of course was
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: thinking about what am I going to say in the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: podcast about this when I was watching it, because I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: think I sort of understood what Marie meant, but it
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't communicating the best way, and I definitely knew that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Kenny did not comprehend it the way that she hoped
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: that he would. She said, I want to be able
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: to go on say yes to going on date to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: other people. So I think what she was trying to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: say was there's no one here right now that has
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: my interest, but if somebody comes down, and possibly they do,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I want to go on the date to see if,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: like what I have with you is as good as
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I think it is so fundamentally when you break it down,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like she was saying, I need to sort
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: of test this relationship to see, like if I missed you,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: which I don't know that that's a good sign. I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: would I would say that, like if you have any
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: desire to test it. You can't be totally certain in it. Um. Also,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: like I'm you can be both ways. Like so many
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: people are here and like they always want to date
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: around and like that's what they feel like they're there
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: to do. But I'm like a serial monogamous in my head,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: and once I find like the object of my affection,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: it's just like no going back, right, Like I'm just
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be super loyal to that person. Um. But I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: don't think that Kenny is in the wrong at all
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: for thinking that what she meant was that, you know,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: we see other people, because that's kind of what it
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: sounded like. And I think again, fundamentally, it's kind of
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: what she was saying. Yeah, you know in the Demi
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Kenny situation, and it makes a lot of sense, Like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: they're very similar, I think, to get a lot of
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: fun together. They He was obviously very into him it.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Mari confides in Demmi and then Demi was like,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: well cool if because are data the people I'm gonna
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: out to Kenny, And that's that's just to Demmi. Is
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like you knew that going in. It's not
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: like she's untrustworthy, but she's just like, Okay, well, what
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: you're telling me and what Kenny's understanding also is that
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: you're wanting to date other people. So I'm gonna go
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: after Kenny because I'm attracted to him, which causes this
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: love triangle to exist and a lot of confusion because
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I think, I think this is where it becomes clear
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to me. Mary talks to Kenny. Can you lose that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: conversation be going, hey, we can date other people or
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: we should be dating other people, even though he's like, hey,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I don't really want to, but it's that you're saying this,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: then okay. And then Marie talks to Demi. Demi leaves
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: that conversation with Mari going you want to date other people? Okay,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to day Kenny. So like, I think
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Mari was not communicating clearly, or here's the other thing.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: What if just possibly she doesn't want to admit that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: this all backfired because someone she saw Kenny with Demmy.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, I don't want to be dating other people,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: and now I don't know how to take it back. Yeah,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's kind of how it went. Um,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I think she should have thought that through the whole
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: thing through a little bit more. I think she was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: acting in the moment because she was like, oh, people
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: are going on dates. Date seemed fun. Yeah, you know, um,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: and then she throws the you know, the cake and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the fire. And then I have to say that during
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: that cake in the pow wow, that like fire bonfire
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: situation where Demi brings him up for the forty birthday celebration,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I kind of was getting the sense from Kenny that
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: he was kind of missing Marie. Did you did you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: pick up on that? I mean he said, like they
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: were doing that question some time, and he you know,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: who would you rather be? He's like Mari and so yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I mean I think he I mean, I think he's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: very into her. He was into her from the very beginning.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: And uh, and then Demmi brings down the cake, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's just like, I think he's confused. I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: think he feels pulled in two directions with two women
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: that he's both like into, but one of them sending
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: him mixed signals. Yeah, I think that with Demi, he like, actually,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: it's like a physical thing. And then I think with
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: mariy like there might be a bit more depth to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the relationship. H yeah, we will. We will see how
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: this goes on. Um, but it's definitely in a sticky
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: spot now the you know. Then then we obviously go
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: back to the Connor Marissa date our relationship and Connor
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: asked Marrissa on a date. She kind of like doesn't
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: really say yet, it doesn't really say no. It's very
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: clear she's not into manymore. He pretty much says no
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: with like all of her body language. Yeah, and then um,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Juan like says hey, kind of like they stleft together
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: last night, and he at that point, like, I hope
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Connor moves on. But even though it says it like
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: it feels like no our Connor doesn't even exist right now,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Like he's just not even himself. He's super her even
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: though I feel like under still like somebody out there
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: that could find somebody in paradise. I mean, he's not
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: a lost cause yet. Yeah, no, I don't think so.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: But like, then again, who are the single women they're
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: currently that will give him a rose mm hmm, yeah,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: well anybody, and he seems friendly maybe MARII maybe like
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: somebody like it'll be a friendship rose. Yeah, well one
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: of the couples I want to talk to you about
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: is one that I know that you care deeply about
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Natasha and Brendan Um. Natasha is trying really hard and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: she's definitely putting herself out there. She's done it multiple
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: times now. I want to hear your thoughts about their kiss,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: um and just see if you felt anything in that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: moment that changed your mind that maybe Natasha should be
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: also looking elsewhere. Mm hmm. Well, uh. The fact that
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: they're like into the whole week, like they probably have
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: been there for like close to seven days now and okay,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not even close to seven days. Maybe like they're
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: on their like fifth day, um, and they haven't kissed yet,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: but like they're coupled off is a little bit strange.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: I don't really have a change in stand since last episode.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Like I really just think that he's like trying not
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to kiss her because he doesn't want to lead her
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: on because he knows that he's going for Piper when
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Piper comes down the stairs. But they do end up kissing,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't like even like a passionate makeout. It
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: was it was not really even a makeout. It was
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: just like a couple of kisses, but it definitely satisfied Natasha.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: You know, She's like, Okay, we're just gonna move slow,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that he made the move. And I'm
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: like kind of glad he made the move. I'm I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: don't know knowing what's to come, and I actually don't
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: know what's to come, but I just my sensors are
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: going off. Maybe I'm not happy that it kissed her
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: because maybe she is being led on. I don't know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: but I just love Natasha. She's just deserves the world. Yeah,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: it just didn't do much for me. It felt like
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he knew he had to. Yes, you know, like I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: put this off long enough. Yeah, I put it off
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: long enough if I don't do it now, like she
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: was gonna know, and so you like it was like
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: a peck, Like it was like, doude, what are you doing?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Like this girl is so into you. She's beautiful. You've
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: been like hanging out with her every day, like give
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: her a good old smooch, like let her know you're
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: into an he kind of picks her and it just
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: feels it feels like there's nothing there for me watching
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't obviously there in the moment, but um,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm upset with that situation because I did. I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: do hope Natasha comes out of this like just feeling
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: like not like just like she was like desired, and um,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if right now she feels that way. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: she's definitely putting herself out there and definitely trying really hard. Well, um,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: we go from there to the Scurry and Joe date.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Something to celebrate, something to hold onto. Now that there
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: is something they're actually taking away, Oh my god, this
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: was such a cute date. Now, I do feel like
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: they're really starting just to get to know each other
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: because some of the questions that they asked each other
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: on the date, I was like, oh man, how have
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: they not covered this already in casual conversation just lying
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: around paradise. Um, But I do feel something with them.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I especially feel it coming from Joe, like the way
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: that he smiles and looks at her. It's just he's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: feeling it and it's really adorable and I'm happy for them.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I h I think there's a still some terminal to come.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I do think because we know Kendall's coming. Yeah, we
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: know Kendall's coming, And I don't know how he's gonna
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: handle that. He did say, Hey, it's gonna be tough
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: because there's never romantic connection there, but it'll be good.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: This see here, I have a feeling like no matter what,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: like that's not just ever idea, and it's gonna bring
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: like we said weeks ago, like you're gonna remember the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: good times and you're gonna remember the memories that we're there.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: But if Serena's the one thing was Serena that I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: picked up on so so far is that, like her
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: emotional intelligence feels so high, and I think she'd be
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: a type of person that even if Joe is struggling
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: with that, like she would sit beside and be like, hey,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I'm here and like I know this sucks. I know
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: it's hard to watch, but like I'm still here beside you.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about it? Do you want
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to like off on a date together? You gonna walk
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: the beach together? Like I think she would understand because
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: she just feels like she has that maturity that wouldn't
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: get it and be a great partner for him through this. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think one thing that she's going to
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: find concerning is the fact that Joe and Kendall truly
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: seemed to have only broken up because of location, you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: So I think like, if that's the only reason, you're like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how can you not still have feelings
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: for this person? Yeah? But I also wonder like if
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Joe is respecting that relationship on camera with the with
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: the Kendle like saying that to Serena and then like
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: at some point he'll find time to be like, hey,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: there's more to it, and I'll tell you later, but like,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: there's got you know there there had to be a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: little more to that. You don't just break out because
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you can't decide where you're gonna live. Yeah, I know,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: because I do feel like the love has to be
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: stronger than the location, Like you have to love somebody
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: more than you love the city that you live it definitely.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: So he I'm sure he'll get hopefully get some time
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: to talk to her about that maybe, And he's just
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: he is, he's respecting Kendall by not saying much right now,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: That's what I picked up on, and I'm okay with that.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I get that that's not some messy Um. Well, Ashley,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: let's talk about Tammy for a second, Okay, oh yeah,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: that was firing. Tammy tells Errand at the beginning of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: the day that you know, her connection with Aaron is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: the strongest out there. Um Thomas shows up, asked her
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: to go to the side and kind of mention it
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: to tell you want to kiss her if she wasn't
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: with Aaron, and Tammy takes you know, takes charge and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: kisses him with I mean, Aaron's gotta be stoming. We've
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: seen his I don't know what anger or is just
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: like his heatedness coup. He's just a steward all the time. Yeah,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and now he's got to be just fuming because his
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: his christ Nite is also kissing the girl that he
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: feels like he has a strongy's relationship with. I feel
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: like this is a storyline that we've got to follow,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: um coming into uspect like the Roads ceremony that was
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: you know, not done during this episode. But I think
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. This is gonna be so interesting.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: I this is like sort of like a villain's got
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: a vill type moment, as J J would say. I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: kind of love the villainous nous of this scene just
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't part of it. I was just an
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: observer and like Thomas is telling Tammy that she's a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: villain and he's like, we've bonding because we're both villains
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: on our season, and then to see her just st
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: rattle him, I was just like, this is great TV
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: for us. I am so sorry for what is going
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: through Aaron's heart right now, but I mean it was entertaining.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: It is. I mean that's why I watched the show, like,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of what they signed up for. So yuys,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: it's entertaining, but I do think it's gonna be really
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: really hard to watch at times. Um, Tammy's getting some
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: attention and uh, and Aaron's gonna have to figure out
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: how to deal with it. The other thing that happened
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: that night was that that just Senya pretty much ended
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it with Ivan by saying he checked the boxes, but
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: she felt a spark with Chris, and then she said,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: you can't really create a spark if it's not there.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: So that was sad. That's a big deal. And then
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: also you know Mark pretty much ends it or Kenney
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: pretty much ends it with Mari and then Marie comes
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: back at him and they mean it's more confusing than ever,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: like I just don't understand what's going on there. But
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: um relationships ending, new relationship with blossoming. Um. There's been
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of changes so far in Paradise. A few
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: have stayed steady. We still have Abigail, um and Noah,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: we have Joe and Serena. Um, who else do we have?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: That's like very solid? Those are two solid. But I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: would even say that Riley and Marissa are like third
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: now in that row. Huh yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I don't see them ending anytime sooner. Well, um, we're
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow with another breakdown of actually in Paradise. It's uh,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy, crazy good episode today. Um, but it
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: kind of just leads us into I think tomorrow's episode.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's still a lot of questions not answered,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and tomorrow we're gonna get those questions. And I'm sure
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be more um questions coming from that episode.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And big news with this episode is Becca
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: and Tia both show up and we see Kenny and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Tia kiss. Oh my goodness, what freaking dream? Well, Oh
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: my god, and Kendall she shows up too. This is
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be big A lot happening a lots to talk about.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be back breaking it down with you, um
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and we're excited to do it. Well, Hey, everybody, it's
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: been a great episode, Thanks for listening. Thanks to Jesse
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Palmer for joining us coming on and talking about the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Surfer. Also, tomorrow we're gonna have Connor Brennan on
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: talking about Bachelor in Paradise is time there everything good
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: in the world. Make sure you tune for that. It's
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be own special episode. It's gonna be a big deal. Um,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna gets really excited for tomorrow
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: night's episode Paradise and we will be recapping that episode
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: with Emily and Amanda. Uh and uh, we'll see you
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: guys then. Yeah. Well, hey, I've been Ben Ashley to
• 1:17:33
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