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- 0:08Speaker 1: At this hour, the mystery deepens in the search for
- 0:12Speaker 1: missing Riley Strain.
- 0:15Speaker 2: I mean you see, Grace, this is Crime Stories.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories
- 0:20Speaker 1: and on Serious XM one eleven.
- 0:23Speaker 2: How can you turn a deaf ear to this? Listen,
- 0:28Speaker 2: play and talk to my boy for over.
- 0:30Speaker 1: A week.
- 0:32Speaker 3: And his art.
- 0:35Speaker 4: Excited somebody that gives up a part of their life
- 0:38Speaker 4: to help you find your life. It's amazing.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Thank you for getting the word out and keeping the
- 0:46Speaker 5: word out. And please keep don't stop sharing. Don't stop
- 0:50Speaker 5: sharing until we bring rightly home. Please just continue.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I've got such a bad feeling. Where is Riley? This
- 1:01Speaker 1: kid scrubbed in sunshine? This is the boy every mom
- 1:08Speaker 1: wants their boy to be like, Okay, the apple of
- 1:14Speaker 1: his family's You were hearing his mother begging and pleading, crying,
- 1:19Speaker 1: trying to speak through tears, asking us to help Tip
- 1:23Speaker 1: line six one five eight six y two eighty six
- 1:27Speaker 1: hundred repeat six five eight six two eighty six hundred.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Now is the.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Time for us to act in the search for Riley Strange.
- 1:38Speaker 1: And I've got to tell you one hundred a thousand
- 1:42Speaker 1: times mothers would come to me at trial and even
- 1:47Speaker 1: now begging for help. But at trial you have to
- 1:52Speaker 1: keep a clear head, unclouded with emotion, and look at
- 1:56Speaker 1: the facts in order to help the family. I want
- 2:00Speaker 1: you to hear the original nine to one one call.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Listen, who is it that you're wanting to report is missing?
- 2:07Speaker 6: It's we're here on a fraternity formal trip. It's it's
- 2:10Speaker 6: one of my good buddies.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Okay. What is his name?
- 2:14Speaker 6: His name is Riley Straine, Riley r I L E
- 2:18Speaker 6: Y Straane.
- 2:19Speaker 5: S T R A I N.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Okay? Is he white? Black? Hispanic Asian?
- 2:25Speaker 6: He's white. He's white, twenty two year old, six five blonde.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Okay.
- 2:34Speaker 6: And what was he last man wearing outside of Luke
- 2:38Speaker 6: Brian's bar last night at like ten and then the
- 2:42Speaker 6: last time his location on his phone was by the
- 2:45Speaker 6: Sheriff's office like eleven pm.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Okay? What color clothing was he last man wearing.
- 2:52Speaker 6: He's wearing jeans, boots and a half black shirt, half brown,
- 2:57Speaker 6: light brown.
- 2:58Speaker 1: You're hearing a good of Riley's trains calling nine one one.
- 3:01Speaker 1: And how ironic is that one of his last pings,
- 3:05Speaker 1: the location on the phone was at the Sheriff's office
- 3:09Speaker 1: in front of near around the Sheriff's office, no network
- 3:14Speaker 1: or phone service since nine fifty three p m.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Where is Riley?
- 3:21Speaker 1: Joining me in all star panel to make sense of
- 3:23Speaker 1: what we know right now, I'm going to play you
- 3:26Speaker 1: more of the nine to one one call because I
- 3:28Speaker 1: have learned with working with so many many juries as
- 3:32Speaker 1: a felony prosecutor. That takes you to the moment and
- 3:35Speaker 1: you can learn so much about probative facts, facts that
- 3:40Speaker 1: proves something that help you find the person. But first
- 3:43Speaker 1: I want to go to a special guest joining us,
- 3:45Speaker 1: Chris Dingman, a very dear family friend of the Strains,
- 3:51Speaker 1: and you can find them on to go fund me
- 3:54Speaker 1: at Riley's Strain. Chris, thank you for being with us.
- 3:58Speaker 1: What is the frame of mind of the family right
- 4:01Speaker 1: now in the search for their son.
- 4:03Speaker 7: The family's completely devastated, you know, we're ten eleven days
- 4:07Speaker 7: into this. Really rightly just disappeared in thin air, and
- 4:12Speaker 7: we try to keep faith, We keep hope. The ironic
- 4:16Speaker 7: part of not having clues means we have hope he's
- 4:19Speaker 7: still there lost. Somebody may know where he is, but
- 4:24Speaker 7: it is truly devastating on the family.
- 4:26Speaker 1: And shortly, speaking of clues, we are going to be
- 4:29Speaker 1: joined by the woman who may have found the single
- 4:32Speaker 1: most important clue as of right now. Back to you,
- 4:36Speaker 1: Chris Dingman, a very dear friend and spokesman for Riley's family.
- 4:42Speaker 2: How did this whole thing unfold?
- 4:44Speaker 1: When did Riley's parents discover he's missing? I mean, it's
- 4:47Speaker 1: every parent's worst nightmare, you know, Chris. I work every day,
- 4:53Speaker 1: sometimes holding down two sometimes three jobs because I want
- 4:57Speaker 1: to make a college fund for my children to get
- 5:01Speaker 1: through high school. You know, give them tutors if they needed,
- 5:04Speaker 1: get them to college, give them every opportunity that a
- 5:08Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, never had to make it
- 5:12Speaker 1: easier for them. So Riley gets to college. He's doing great,
- 5:18Speaker 1: He makes friends in his fraternity. I think it was
- 5:20Speaker 1: Delta Kai. Everything's going fine. He goes on their formal,
- 5:25Speaker 1: which all the college kids do, and all of a sudden,
- 5:29Speaker 1: Mom gets a call He's gone.
- 5:33Speaker 2: How does that happen?
- 5:34Speaker 1: You put all your love, all your energy, all your money,
- 5:37Speaker 1: everything into helping your children. You think going to college
- 5:41Speaker 1: is the thing to do, and bam, he's gone.
- 5:45Speaker 2: What happened?
- 5:46Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 5:46Speaker 7: The family was actually notified at about ten thirty Saturday
- 5:49Speaker 7: morning by his fraternity brothers wanting to know if they
- 5:53Speaker 7: had heard from Riley, because as we all know now,
- 5:56Speaker 7: he did not come back to his hotel room. The
- 5:58Speaker 7: family instantly told the boy, please contacted the police, go
- 6:01Speaker 7: down to the police station. They started packing a few
- 6:05Speaker 7: clothes together, constantly reaching out for Riley, hopped in a
- 6:09Speaker 7: car and started hitting that way. This process of reporting
- 6:12Speaker 7: Riley missing started actually at ten thirty Saturday morning, and
- 6:17Speaker 7: an official report that we have been shown didn't take
- 6:20Speaker 7: place till one sometime in that area.
- 6:24Speaker 6: That's how long it.
- 6:24Speaker 7: Took for the boys to actually get somebody to follow
- 6:28Speaker 7: an official report, with a lot of confusion on why
- 6:31Speaker 7: that took that, but yeah, the family was actually notified
- 6:34Speaker 7: about ten thirty Saturday morning.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Okay, guys, you're hearing Chris Dingman joining us a very
- 6:40Speaker 1: dear friend of the Riley Strain family. Guys, I want
- 6:44Speaker 1: to hear more of that nine one one call. They
- 6:45Speaker 1: were hitting straight out to Dryden Quigley, WSMV four investigative
- 6:50Speaker 1: reporter for the very latest.
- 6:52Speaker 2: But let's hear the nine to one one call. Listen,
- 6:56Speaker 2: and you.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Said it last show outside the Sheriff's department like around
- 7:01Speaker 3: that area by the river by the Sheriff's department over there. Okay,
- 7:05Speaker 3: does he have any life sustaining medications or disabilities? No,
- 7:10Speaker 3: you said he has a phone. So it's a cell phone, right, yeah?
- 7:14Speaker 6: Did iPhone fifteen promax?
- 7:17Speaker 3: What is the number?
- 7:18Speaker 6: But it's hold on all. Are you ready?
- 7:23Speaker 4: Yes?
- 7:23Speaker 3: Go ahead? You said the last four. We're forty one
- 7:29Speaker 3: ninety eight.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Yes.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Okay. Are you going to be waiting at the at
- 7:37Speaker 3: the door of the precinct or are you going to
- 7:39Speaker 3: be waiting in your car?
- 7:40Speaker 6: I mean yeah, we're at the front door of the precinct.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Okay, I've got to call sent there at the Central
- 7:45Speaker 3: Precinct six o one Korea Veterans Bullivoard and downtown right
- 7:48Speaker 3: across the Music City Center. We'll get an ulcer out
- 7:51Speaker 3: to you as soon as we can. Please tell us
- 7:53Speaker 3: back if something changes before they arrive.
- 7:55Speaker 1: So when you look back, when you look back on
- 7:59Speaker 1: every thing that happens, in every case, you think would have,
- 8:02Speaker 1: could have, should have.
- 8:03Speaker 2: They should have done the report earlier.
- 8:05Speaker 1: We should have this, we should have had bottom line,
- 8:09Speaker 1: Riley Strain is missing his parents, asking us for their
- 8:13Speaker 1: help again. Tip line six one five eight six two
- 8:17Speaker 1: eighty six hundred. So, Chris Dingman, you're telling me that
- 8:22Speaker 1: the mom and or dad get a message the following
- 8:26Speaker 1: morning at ten ish a m. They ask the fraternity brother, quick, quick,
- 8:34Speaker 1: go report him missing right now, and they head to
- 8:37Speaker 1: the area.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yes?
- 8:40Speaker 7: Yes, they were in Springfield, Missouri, where you know, Riley
- 8:42Speaker 7: was born and raised, and that's where we are. And uh, Instantly,
- 8:46Speaker 7: when a parent gets that message, you know, you're mortified.
- 8:50Speaker 7: What's going on, you know, especially when you're six or
- 8:52Speaker 7: seven hours away from your kid, you know. And they
- 8:55Speaker 7: they helped in a vehicle through some clothes together, was
- 8:58Speaker 7: constantly trying to reach out to Riley on their journey
- 9:02Speaker 7: there with the unfortunately no response.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Oh cool, you know what that's reminding me of, Chris Dingman.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I'm in New York where we lived with the children
- 9:15Speaker 1: at that time. They're about, oh gosh, eight nine years old,
- 9:20Speaker 1: had just gotten them to bed and get a call.
- 9:24Speaker 2: My dad is on life support.
- 9:27Speaker 1: I get one sentence off to him, Daddy, I'm on
- 9:29Speaker 1: the way, and within fifteen minutes we were out on
- 9:32Speaker 1: the street in pajamas trying to hell a cab all right,
- 9:37Speaker 1: and the whole way trying to get back home to
- 9:40Speaker 1: make in Georgia just in fits tied up in knots.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I can only imagine what Riley's parents were going through
- 9:49Speaker 1: as they drove all the way to where he goes
- 9:53Speaker 1: missing and speaking off straight out to Dryden Quigley, investigative
- 9:56Speaker 1: reporter WSMV four, thank you for being with us. First
- 10:01Speaker 1: of all, describe the area where we believe Riley went missing. Guys,
- 10:05Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the woman who has found
- 10:08Speaker 1: what could be the single most important physical clue yet.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dryden.
- 10:14Speaker 9: So, the last place that he was spotted on the
- 10:16Speaker 9: video camera is kind of up a street and it's
- 10:19Speaker 9: going along the Cumberland River where there's a pretty steep
- 10:22Speaker 9: drop off down there. Different areas have steeper than other parts,
- 10:28Speaker 9: but you can last see him crossing this street and
- 10:30Speaker 9: kind of heading up towards under these two bridges where
- 10:33Speaker 9: he's last seen.
- 10:34Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, is it true, Dryden Quigley
- 10:37Speaker 1: WSMV four that Riley was headed toward a homeless encampment.
- 10:44Speaker 9: So along that drop off between the Gay Street and
- 10:48Speaker 9: Cumberland River, there's this bank and it is where a
- 10:52Speaker 9: lot of people spend the night and sleep along there
- 10:54Speaker 9: and then under the two bridges as well.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Yes, what people? What people?
- 10:58Speaker 7: What?
- 10:58Speaker 1: Boy scout campers? Who it's staying out there under bridges?
- 11:02Speaker 10: People?
- 11:02Speaker 9: Yeah, who don't have it anywhere else to go. You know,
- 11:04Speaker 9: there's a lot of trash down there too, and so
- 11:06Speaker 9: that comes into play later when looking for Riley's possessions too.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Is it true that drugs are used in that area
- 11:14Speaker 1: by the homeless people?
- 11:16Speaker 9: I can't say that for sure. I haven't seen it myself,
- 11:19Speaker 9: but I would believe it's possible.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Yeah, So did he realize he's headed for an encampment
- 11:27Speaker 1: of homeless people where drugs apparently are used openly, as
- 11:34Speaker 1: we have seen now developing across the country.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Guys, we've been playing the nine to one one call.
- 12:00Speaker 1: We're telling you the very latest of what you know.
- 12:03Speaker 1: But now I want you to hear from a volunteer
- 12:07Speaker 1: searchy searcher, Brandy Baynan, who lives in Nashville and possibly
- 12:13Speaker 1: has found the single most important physical clue yet. I'm
- 12:18Speaker 1: so grateful Brandy could speak to us. First of all,
- 12:23Speaker 1: listen to what she tells us regarding what she was
- 12:27Speaker 1: looking for when she found the clue.
- 12:30Speaker 11: We were looking for either his boots, shirt, he has
- 12:34Speaker 11: a bright blue wallet, any of those indications. But we
- 12:39Speaker 11: went down the and we went down to the embankment
- 12:43Speaker 11: and walked along the river until we got to underneath
- 12:46Speaker 11: the bridge, which is one of the last known vicinities
- 12:49Speaker 11: that he was in, and we started just digging around,
- 12:52Speaker 11: rummaging as much as we can, and about I want
- 12:55Speaker 11: to say, we were there into that part for maybe
- 12:58Speaker 11: twenty or thirty minutes, and there's about three ledges and
- 13:02Speaker 11: the third bottom ledge, which it's very hard to explain,
- 13:07Speaker 11: so I'm sorry if that is hard to imagine. And
- 13:10Speaker 11: I saw a card right there and flipped it over
- 13:13Speaker 11: to look at the backside because it was just like
- 13:15Speaker 11: the bank on the front, and saw his name, and
- 13:18Speaker 11: she goes, oh my god, we found his card and
- 13:20Speaker 11: I was like, no, we didn't. And right there we
- 13:23Speaker 11: were both instantly shocked. Our stomachs dropped, and then we
- 13:27Speaker 11: were both like, we have to keep going, Like this
- 13:29Speaker 11: means we have to keep going.
- 13:31Speaker 1: I can't imagine what went through everyone's minds when they
- 13:35Speaker 1: realize they have found evidence. Liz, we actually have sound
- 13:40Speaker 1: of that discovery.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Everybody listen.
- 13:43Speaker 12: I don't think they do right here, or at least
- 13:45Speaker 12: for that guy's tendons, because you're talking about.
- 13:48Speaker 2: How cold what.
- 13:51Speaker 1: You want?
- 13:52Speaker 2: His credit card?
- 13:53Speaker 3: We found his credit card.
- 13:54Speaker 11: We gonna hang out, We gotta hang up the phone.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, I'm just trying to take in
- 13:59Speaker 1: that moment where they find the piece of evidence. And
- 14:02Speaker 1: I want to make something very very clear, Chris Dingman,
- 14:07Speaker 1: This young boy, Riley Strain, has no history at all
- 14:13Speaker 1: ever of drug use, never has been thrown out of school,
- 14:19Speaker 1: never has been in treatment, not even a disorderly conduct
- 14:24Speaker 1: crossing the street, jaywalking, nothing.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Isn't that true? Chris Dingman?
- 14:29Speaker 7: One hundred percent? Yeah, Riley was this straightforward kid. You know,
- 14:32Speaker 7: we've had a lot of people be you know, question
- 14:35Speaker 7: us and go, I can't believe he's that good of
- 14:37Speaker 7: a kid. And all you have to do is ever
- 14:40Speaker 7: be just a little bit of his life, just a
- 14:42Speaker 7: blimp meeting anywhere, and you instantly knew that the pictures
- 14:46Speaker 7: that everybody's been sharing with him smiling, that truly was
- 14:49Speaker 7: that kid. He was an awesome boy, and we want
- 14:53Speaker 7: him back and he is an awesome boy.
- 14:54Speaker 2: You know, you just brought me to tears.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Because it reminds me so much of my son John David.
- 15:00Speaker 1: And people are always saying, how can one kid be
- 15:05Speaker 1: so good natured and so joyful.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I mean, you know what his.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Nickname is here at the house, Awesome. His nickname is Awesome,
- 15:13Speaker 1: And just thinking about him completely innocent. I mean doctor
- 15:18Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall joining me, high profile psycho analyst joining us
- 15:22Speaker 1: out of la and you can find her at doctor
- 15:25Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com.
- 15:27Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany.
- 15:28Speaker 1: When I talk about this homeless encampment and how drugs
- 15:33Speaker 1: allegedly are being openly sold and used, this is not
- 15:39Speaker 1: about Riley going down to get drugs.
- 15:43Speaker 2: He has no history of that at all. Zero.
- 15:47Speaker 1: He was out with his friends on the fraternity formal weekend.
- 15:53Speaker 1: He get wanders off alone and this is where his
- 15:58Speaker 1: bank card is found. It's like a lamb being led
- 16:03Speaker 1: to the slaughter, doctor Bethany.
- 16:05Speaker 8: Exactly, Nancy. It sounds to me like Riley was extremely disoriented.
- 16:09Speaker 8: He thought he was going back to his hotel room.
- 16:12Speaker 8: He no longer had his friends with him, and he
- 16:15Speaker 8: was simply walking the wrong direction and he walked right
- 16:17Speaker 8: into the jaws of danger.
- 16:19Speaker 2: And now, I mean, what happens.
- 16:20Speaker 8: In these homeless encampments is that they are communities. Nancy,
- 16:24Speaker 8: and everybody in the homeless encampment tends to know each other.
- 16:28Speaker 8: They watch out after each other, They sometimes exchange food,
- 16:32Speaker 8: they look after each other's kids. They're like little tiny cities.
- 16:36Speaker 1: What and that?
- 16:36Speaker 2: Hey are you talking about woman? I mean, doctor Bethany.
- 16:41Speaker 1: This is not a commune where they're raising organic food
- 16:46Speaker 1: and singing kumbe bay ya every night there. God bless
- 16:50Speaker 1: them for their misfortune. But there are drugs being openly sold,
- 16:56Speaker 1: hard drugs, needle drugs.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Bethy. I don't know what world you're coming from.
- 17:02Speaker 1: But you send a kid straight out of high school
- 17:05Speaker 1: down there. But that's the last thing I'm going to
- 17:08Speaker 1: do is send John, David and Lucy under a bridge.
- 17:11Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely well. What I was going to say was
- 17:14Speaker 8: that the fact that he was not a part of
- 17:16Speaker 8: this group and he walked in made him extremely vulnerable.
- 17:20Speaker 8: It was a very precarious situation, walking into a group
- 17:24Speaker 8: of desperate people. And this is like a child, like
- 17:27Speaker 8: a little lamb, being led to the slaughter. He did
- 17:29Speaker 8: not know what he was getting into.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Guys.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I want to circle back to what we know again,
- 17:35Speaker 1: a volunteer searcher who spends her own valuable private time
- 17:40Speaker 1: helping in the search for Riley has found a very
- 17:44Speaker 1: significant piece of physical evidence. It's Brandy Bane, and volunteer searcher,
- 17:49Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what she has to
- 17:53Speaker 1: say about why Brandy is searching for Riley.
- 17:58Speaker 11: I personally started going out Tuesday night. I went on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
- 18:05Speaker 11: I was do some TikTok lives with a friend while
- 18:08Speaker 11: I was searching, because I was kind of going on
- 18:10Speaker 11: my own, and Anna happened to see one of those
- 18:13Speaker 11: TikTok lives and she messaged me and asked us she
- 18:15Speaker 11: could come join the next day, and she did, and
- 18:18Speaker 11: that gave me. That gave me the ability to be
- 18:21Speaker 11: able to go all the way down to the embankment,
- 18:23Speaker 11: because I couldn't just do it with myself. In case
- 18:25Speaker 11: something were to happen, no one would know, or my
- 18:29Speaker 11: friend on TikTok wouldn't really be able to help me.
- 18:32Speaker 11: So Anna was brave enough to go down with that
- 18:34Speaker 11: with me, and so we went searching and we happened
- 18:38Speaker 11: to find something.
- 18:38Speaker 1: There is no way in Chi double l No way
- 18:42Speaker 1: in chi double l that Riley's trying to hear what
- 18:46Speaker 1: she just said. That she didn't know if she was
- 18:49Speaker 1: brave enough to go down down the slope into that area.
- 18:55Speaker 1: She was afraid. And that is in broad daylight. And
- 19:00Speaker 1: here walks in Riley into this area late late at night.
- 19:06Speaker 1: What happened to him? Where is he? I need to
- 19:09Speaker 1: get a clearer picture about exactly where the bank card
- 19:14Speaker 1: was found.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Let's listen to Brandy Baynen.
- 19:17Speaker 11: It was an embankment. So there was like a there's
- 19:21Speaker 11: a brick wall because there is a so we're underneath
- 19:24Speaker 11: the bridge. So then if you're up on the sidewalk,
- 19:26Speaker 11: there's a fence and there's a brick wall that comes
- 19:29Speaker 11: down if you're under the embankment. Then and then that
- 19:32Speaker 11: brick wall kind of turns into some mud and rocks, trees,
- 19:35Speaker 11: and then that goes into another ledge similar ledge, which
- 19:39Speaker 11: goes into another one which then goes into rocks, which
- 19:43Speaker 11: then turns into the river. So it was in that
- 19:45Speaker 11: third little ledge of mud dirt, and then you have
- 19:50Speaker 11: to and right now in Nashville, it is full of
- 19:53Speaker 11: garbage there. So we were actually rummaging through trash, absolute trash,
- 20:00Speaker 11: everything that you can imagine, including things that were dangerous
- 20:03Speaker 11: to us, like we saw some needles and things like that.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Yeah, Bethany, the peace loving people down under that bridge
- 20:10Speaker 1: and their hypodermic needles. It'd be a cold day in
- 20:12Speaker 1: hell before I would let my children go down there.
- 20:15Speaker 1: And here's Riley's strain. I mean, he's basically straight out
- 20:18Speaker 1: of high school. I'm just trying to get an understanding
- 20:21Speaker 1: about what Brandy Bainen is saying, because from what she's describing,
- 20:25Speaker 1: there is no way that that bank card of Riley's
- 20:28Speaker 1: trains could have fallen in that location. Let me understand, no,
- 20:34Speaker 1: listen what Brandy Baynen says about the card's location.
- 20:40Speaker 11: I personally do not think that that card could have
- 20:43Speaker 11: landed there from just like stumbling and losing your card
- 20:49Speaker 11: out of your hand, because it would have had to
- 20:50Speaker 11: go down a few ludges. Now, it has been some
- 20:54Speaker 11: time that's passed since the eighth and then we did
- 20:59Speaker 11: have rain on the exact week after that Friday, so
- 21:05Speaker 11: I don't know what that would do at all, if
- 21:10Speaker 11: that would affect it at all. But when we found
- 21:13Speaker 11: the card, it wasn't actually covered up that much. There
- 21:16Speaker 11: was some leaves and she saw the blue in it.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Guys, we're trying to determine the significance of the location
- 21:28Speaker 1: of Riley Strain's bank card.
- 21:32Speaker 2: And I have a reason for doing this.
- 21:35Speaker 1: I remember in one murder case and the guy was
- 21:37Speaker 1: a serial killer, but I could get him.
- 21:39Speaker 2: On one case, it was.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Jane Doe, and I found one of her earrings in
- 21:45Speaker 1: a particular location, and the fact that it was there
- 21:49Speaker 1: proved volumes to me. I learned that that was a
- 21:54Speaker 1: tertiary crime scene, which led me then to the secondary
- 21:58Speaker 1: and the primary crime scene because of that one earring. Now,
- 22:02Speaker 1: let's think what this bank card means.
- 22:05Speaker 12: I don't think they do right here, or at least
- 22:08Speaker 12: for that guy's tentons, because you're talking about how.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Cold what.
- 22:14Speaker 12: You want?
- 22:14Speaker 2: His credit card?
- 22:15Speaker 3: We find his credit card.
- 22:16Speaker 11: We gotta hang out, we gotta hang.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Up the phone.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Oh my god, Riley Strain was not going on a
- 22:21Speaker 1: leisurely stroll.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Amongst these rocks down by the river.
- 22:27Speaker 1: That did not happen and back to Dryden quickly joining
- 22:31Speaker 1: US investigative reporter WSMV Fort Nashville. I understand that one
- 22:37Speaker 1: of the homeless gentlemen that was there claims that he
- 22:43Speaker 1: heard a quote commotion around the time we believe Riley
- 22:47Speaker 1: Strain may have been there. What can you tell me
- 22:50Speaker 1: about that, Dryden?
- 22:51Speaker 9: So, I didn't speak with that homeless person myself, but
- 22:53Speaker 9: it has been reported that, yes, he was he during
- 22:58Speaker 9: around that time. He heard a commotion after he saw
- 23:01Speaker 9: Riley walk through there. That's all he said about it,
- 23:04Speaker 9: or was reported about it. But I didn't speak with
- 23:06Speaker 9: him myself.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Also emerging in the search for Riley's Strain is surveillance video.
- 23:12Speaker 1: But first I want to ask Chris Dingman, Chris a
- 23:16Speaker 1: very dear family friend of the Strain and speaking for them, Chris,
- 23:20Speaker 1: what is the reaction from the parents regarding the discovery
- 23:25Speaker 1: that Brayden made of the bank card.
- 23:28Speaker 7: I'm extremely happy you're asking me that. I actually had
- 23:33Speaker 7: friends of the family that was very close to the
- 23:36Speaker 7: young ladies when they found it. I got a phone
- 23:38Speaker 7: call Sunday afternoon. They were super excited. They go, we
- 23:43Speaker 7: found his card, and I said, can you go to them?
- 23:46Speaker 7: They were within about one hundred yards of each other,
- 23:48Speaker 7: and she said yeah, And I said, do me a favor.
- 23:51Speaker 7: I said, I know the bank that Riley uses. Unfortunately,
- 23:54Speaker 7: and you've dealt with this a lot. There are a
- 23:57Speaker 7: lot of people that will do fake cards, fake ID
- 24:00Speaker 7: and throw them in crime scenes just to be cruel.
- 24:05Speaker 7: And I wanted to make sure before this went at least,
- 24:09Speaker 7: you know, went wild, that I notified the family. The
- 24:13Speaker 7: young ladies instantly took a picture of the card sent
- 24:17Speaker 7: to me. I knew at that moment that's Riley's card.
- 24:20Speaker 7: I contacted the family, said, hey, this is the pinpoint.
- 24:24Speaker 7: They've dropped me a pin one of the young ladies,
- 24:26Speaker 7: I asked her, I said, please.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Down nine one one.
- 24:29Speaker 7: I'm going to get a hold of the family. The
- 24:31Speaker 7: other person that contacted me, she was actually in a
- 24:34Speaker 7: close proximity of some police that were actually there with
- 24:38Speaker 7: canines and had been searching the area a little bit
- 24:42Speaker 7: farther away. I told her, I said, please go get
- 24:46Speaker 7: the police. Take them directly to those young ladies. We
- 24:50Speaker 7: need to secure that area. And the young girls, as
- 24:54Speaker 7: you've kind of heard in their voices, they were just
- 24:57Speaker 7: as static, they were nervous, they were scared. And I
- 25:00Speaker 7: told her, I said, I need you to do something
- 25:02Speaker 7: for me, please. I said, you're about to be bombarded
- 25:05Speaker 7: with one hundred plus people. You guys, we live on TikTok.
- 25:08Speaker 7: Everybody kind of has a ballpark. I do where you are.
- 25:11Speaker 7: I need that crime scene secured. Please, if people come
- 25:15Speaker 7: up there, tell them to stand back till the police
- 25:18Speaker 7: get here so we can do a formal investigation in
- 25:21Speaker 7: that exact area. One thing that struck out to me.
- 25:24Speaker 7: I don't know if you have physically seen the picture
- 25:26Speaker 7: of the card, and I'm glad the young lady brought
- 25:29Speaker 7: that up and we discussed this. That card is not dirty.
- 25:33Speaker 7: It's not filthy for a car that had been laying
- 25:35Speaker 7: on the ground for nine days, not in the water
- 25:39Speaker 7: or even remotely close to the water. In essence to
- 25:42Speaker 7: the storms that they had. There's constant moisture down there,
- 25:45Speaker 7: there's constant windflow down there, and there was no visible
- 25:49Speaker 7: signs of you know, the frisbee. The kids leave the
- 25:52Speaker 7: frisbee out in the yard. Two days later, you go out,
- 25:55Speaker 7: it's covered in dew and and little dirt particles. That's
- 26:00Speaker 7: seem to me to be very very strange. So I
- 26:02Speaker 7: would love to see your take on that.
- 26:04Speaker 1: You know, I find that very interesting, the point that
- 26:06Speaker 1: you're bringing out that the card was not weathered at all.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Joining me is Steve Fisher, missing person's private investigator, search
- 26:14Speaker 1: and rescue specialist, owner of Search Investigations. Find that at
- 26:19Speaker 1: Searchinvestigations dot Org. Steve Fisher, thank you for being with us.
- 26:22Speaker 1: What does that tell you? I find it very primitive.
- 26:25Speaker 10: I think one thing that's important to realize is that
- 26:28Speaker 10: the river levels on the at ten pm night he
- 26:32Speaker 10: went missing.
- 26:33Speaker 2: We're seven feet.
- 26:34Speaker 10: Higher than when the women found the card, So the
- 26:38Speaker 10: water level was significantly higher, which is why you see
- 26:41Speaker 10: the different color, the darker rocks.
- 26:43Speaker 2: So it's a controlled river.
- 26:45Speaker 10: They had let a lot of you know, outflow out
- 26:48Speaker 10: of it, so that could have been submerged in simply
- 26:52Speaker 10: the water level coming down, and that would account for
- 26:55Speaker 10: why the card is so clean.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Hold on, Steve Fisher.
- 26:57Speaker 1: What about the fact, as we just heard from Braden,
- 27:01Speaker 1: that it was wedged and it didn't get there innocently.
- 27:06Speaker 10: From what I understood, I did watch the video of
- 27:08Speaker 10: when they uncovered it. I think it was under some
- 27:11Speaker 10: a little bit of debris, and you know, we'll never
- 27:16Speaker 10: know for certain, but in search and rescue, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 10: we're looking for a last known position and it's the
- 27:23Speaker 10: same spot that the cell phone last ping dat on
- 27:27Speaker 10: life three sixty. You know, originally told it was fifty
- 27:31Speaker 10: to one hundred feet on the south side of that bridge,
- 27:34Speaker 10: which is right where this card ended up. Also, so
- 27:38Speaker 10: I think, you know, there's a likelihood that it just
- 27:42Speaker 10: could be the waterflow is the reason that it was
- 27:44Speaker 10: found on the embankment.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Ben Powers is joining us high profile lawyer out of Nashville,
- 27:50Speaker 1: and you can find him at legalpowers dot com. Ben Powers,
- 27:54Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. What can
- 27:57Speaker 1: you tell us about your knowledge of the case and
- 27:59Speaker 1: your insight into what's happening right now?
- 28:01Speaker 4: Well, so, right now, it sounds like the investigation has
- 28:03Speaker 4: locked in a really narrow timeline of how that evening went,
- 28:08Speaker 4: you know, from being removed from the bar, to the
- 28:11Speaker 4: various surveillance footage, to the ping from the cell phone,
- 28:15Speaker 4: all the way to the debit card down at the
- 28:16Speaker 4: river bank. The debit card at the river bank is
- 28:20Speaker 4: curious because it's not with his wallet, there's no other
- 28:23Speaker 4: possessions with him, and it was found amongst what we
- 28:25Speaker 4: might call trash. But since it is a homeless encampment,
- 28:29Speaker 4: that could be personal possessions of someone that lives down there.
- 28:32Speaker 4: Maybe they were trying to discard the debit card, or
- 28:35Speaker 4: maybe there's no foul play at all. It's a little
- 28:38Speaker 4: too early to try to make a determination one where
- 28:40Speaker 4: the other as to that type of conclusion. But the
- 28:43Speaker 4: investigation has been very thorough. They've used canines, they've used sonar,
- 28:48Speaker 4: they've used helicopters, they've used drones, volunteers as the volunteers
- 28:53Speaker 4: that found the debit card, So it is a very thorough,
- 28:56Speaker 4: extensive investigation. It's just that this narrow time frame is
- 29:00Speaker 4: so curious because they have him on video going down
- 29:04Speaker 4: Gay Street, but they don't have him on video at
- 29:07Speaker 4: the courthouse, which is just at the other end of
- 29:09Speaker 4: the Gay Street where the video last saw him. And
- 29:13Speaker 4: they have an officer that was on scene investigating a
- 29:16Speaker 4: claim of vehicle burglary. He didn't hear or see anything
- 29:20Speaker 4: out of the ordinary.
- 29:21Speaker 2: And they do have.
- 29:22Speaker 4: One of the benefits of that homeless encampment is, as
- 29:26Speaker 4: are been stated, there's at least one witness that hurt
- 29:28Speaker 4: some commotion, but that's a relatively large community down there,
- 29:33Speaker 4: so I suspect that there's other witnesses that just haven't
- 29:36Speaker 4: come forward yet with what may have happened that evening.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Time.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Luckily in this case, we also have gramy surveillance video
- 30:03Speaker 1: that is emerging.
- 30:19Speaker 4: How you doing, sir, I'm good.
- 30:21Speaker 2: How are you good? Guys?
- 30:28Speaker 1: This is the most recent video surveillance that we have
- 30:33Speaker 1: obtained to Dryden Quigley WSMV four.
- 30:38Speaker 9: So we're looking right now at Metro Police's bodyguard camera,
- 30:42Speaker 9: body warn camera. He's out there responding to I believe
- 30:46Speaker 9: it was a burglary call, and he runs into Riley.
- 30:50Speaker 9: He greet said, and he says hi. Now. Riley keeps
- 30:52Speaker 9: walking down that street and just a few feet away
- 30:55Speaker 9: you can actually see the bridge in the video. That's
- 30:57Speaker 9: where Riley's phone last pinged. Was there for another forty
- 31:01Speaker 9: five minutes, and he says he didn't hear anything out
- 31:04Speaker 9: of the ordinary. That bridge over there is the last
- 31:06Speaker 9: spot not Riley's phone went off. But it took until
- 31:10Speaker 9: today or yesterday to have this video come out.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Riley, he's coherent, everything's fine. He's speaking to the officer.
- 31:18Speaker 1: The officer looks like he's doing a safety check in
- 31:21Speaker 1: a parking lot, just poking around late at night. He's
- 31:25Speaker 1: walking normally. He's not drunk, he's not on drugs. He's
- 31:28Speaker 1: wearing the clothes that was described that were described by
- 31:31Speaker 1: his friends.
- 31:32Speaker 2: Is he walking toward or away from the bridge? Dryden? Quickly?
- 31:36Speaker 9: He is walking towards it. He kind of turns around,
- 31:39Speaker 9: so it's hard to see bs. Riley's on his way
- 31:41Speaker 9: towards that first bridge.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Okay, what would be on the other side of the
- 31:44Speaker 1: bridge Dryden?
- 31:46Speaker 9: So there are two bridges actually, but between them and
- 31:50Speaker 9: down the side there are usually people either sleeping under
- 31:53Speaker 9: the bridge or down the side again of the embankment,
- 31:56Speaker 9: very close to where his credit card was found.
- 31:59Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the homeless encampment was down
- 32:04Speaker 1: the side of that bridge toward which he is headed.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Yes.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Have there ever been ambushes there of people crossing the
- 32:13Speaker 1: bridge or approaching the bridge at night that we know of?
- 32:17Speaker 2: No, not that I know.
- 32:19Speaker 1: To Chris Dingman, what if anything, do we know where
- 32:23Speaker 1: was he headed?
- 32:25Speaker 7: And I can help you out with a lot of
- 32:26Speaker 7: your questions. Unfortunately, unfortunately the way the videos released us
- 32:31Speaker 7: that day is kind of the way that you have
- 32:33Speaker 7: laid him out just then. What we do know is
- 32:36Speaker 7: the one video where Riley is running through the parking
- 32:39Speaker 7: lot and falls down. That is the first video of
- 32:43Speaker 7: those three, there was an altercation in that intersection. There
- 32:48Speaker 7: was an altercation with two gentlemen in that intersection. We
- 32:52Speaker 7: think Riley was walking up to it, saw the altercation,
- 32:55Speaker 7: and decided to go around the back of the food truck.
- 32:58Speaker 7: And that's why he was at a little bit of
- 33:00Speaker 7: you know, a faster gallop per se. The family we
- 33:04Speaker 7: have personally been to that food truck and look at
- 33:06Speaker 7: their footage.
- 33:06Speaker 4: That's how we know.
- 33:08Speaker 7: You know, initially people were thinking Riley was attacked in
- 33:10Speaker 7: that intersection. He was not. We think the reason Riley
- 33:15Speaker 7: started to run a little bit. We think the reason
- 33:18Speaker 7: Riley started to run a little bit is one of
- 33:20Speaker 7: the people in the altercation started running. We think one
- 33:24Speaker 7: of the people that was in altercation took off running
- 33:27Speaker 7: behind the food truck towards the fire truck. And that's
- 33:30Speaker 7: why Riley just microseconds, wow, I need to move.
- 33:35Speaker 4: That's why he.
- 33:35Speaker 7: Started running behind the truck. The second video is where
- 33:39Speaker 7: he's walking along the wall. It's kind of a dark area.
- 33:42Speaker 7: You'll notice he keeps reaching up towards the back of
- 33:45Speaker 7: his body. The first video, unfortunately, when Riley goes down,
- 33:49Speaker 7: there's a concrete pole for that parking lot and Riley
- 33:53Speaker 7: went into it aggressively. He went shoulders and then hit
- 33:57Speaker 7: his head into that as he was going down. You'll
- 34:00Speaker 7: in that video he's there for you know, one, two, three,
- 34:03Speaker 7: four seconds before he gets himself and his bearings back up.
- 34:07Speaker 7: The video too that, you know, that's why we thank it.
- 34:09Speaker 7: At first we thought maybe he was trying to take
- 34:11Speaker 7: his phone to his ear, but after putting the pieces
- 34:14Speaker 7: together in order, Riley you know, was probably rubbing his
- 34:18Speaker 7: neck and shoulders from hitting the concrete barricade. The next video,
- 34:21Speaker 7: where he is crossing the street where the construction barricade is,
- 34:25Speaker 7: he walks right along the construction barricade. Whatever happened with
- 34:29Speaker 7: you know, him hitting his shoulders and neck as he's
- 34:32Speaker 7: coming through here, I think he kind of comes out
- 34:36Speaker 7: of the ether as we say, you know when you
- 34:37Speaker 7: when you have an abrupt movement against your body, because
- 34:41Speaker 7: his body motions go back towards more normal. The fourth
- 34:44Speaker 7: video and the last video that we have of anything
- 34:47Speaker 7: seeing Riley, will be the police video. So I just
- 34:50Speaker 7: wanted to help you guys with that and put it
- 34:51Speaker 7: in progression so people would understand the timeline, the wild
- 34:56Speaker 7: part and the young lady from Nashville with the media.
- 34:59Speaker 7: I think, I think this is all within about a
- 35:01Speaker 7: five minute window and very close proximity of each other
- 35:06Speaker 7: of these videos as they go by.
- 35:08Speaker 1: From what I know right now Steve Fisher joining us
- 35:12Speaker 1: from Searchinvestigations dot Org, there has been no additional cell
- 35:19Speaker 1: phone activity or bank card credit card activity since Riley
- 35:24Speaker 1: went missing.
- 35:25Speaker 2: What does that tell.
- 35:26Speaker 10: You, Well, I mean tell me that everything stopped right there.
- 35:29Speaker 10: And you know, as we're looking at the surveillance is
- 35:33Speaker 10: what literally every case comes down to. And one thing
- 35:35Speaker 10: I think is important in this and you know, like Chris,
- 35:38Speaker 10: the know is you know, right across the river is
- 35:42Speaker 10: thoroughly covered. You got the Tennessee Titans Stadium, and then
- 35:45Speaker 10: you've got a Marathon oil facility. And I've been dealing
- 35:49Speaker 10: with the Titans. They did not capture anything. However, the
- 35:52Speaker 10: Marathon facility, you know, has I talked to the head
- 35:55Speaker 10: of security there on Sunday. They have not been contacted
- 35:57Speaker 10: by law enforcement. Their barges are literally right across from
- 36:02Speaker 10: where that debit card was found, and they have a
- 36:06Speaker 10: lot of surveillance because they got to protect that facility
- 36:08Speaker 10: against people coming in from the water. So I was
- 36:12Speaker 10: in touch with with her. They were going to pull
- 36:14Speaker 10: all the footage on Monday morning. I let the detective know.
- 36:17Speaker 10: He didn't get back to me, but then communications stop,
- 36:21Speaker 10: so I think there was a halt put to that.
- 36:24Speaker 10: But I would just, you know, want Chris to know that.
- 36:26Speaker 10: I think there is significant surveillance available right across the river.
- 36:30Speaker 2: So we need that barge video pronto. Yes, yes, I
- 36:35Speaker 2: was supposed to have it. I was supposed to get
- 36:37Speaker 2: that Monday.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us a psychoanalyst out of LA
- 36:42Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall dot com Doctor Bethany. So often citizen
- 36:46Speaker 1: investigations tips are discounted, but if it weren't for citizen sleuths,
- 36:54Speaker 1: we would never have found Gabby Potito.
- 36:57Speaker 2: That would never have happened.
- 36:58Speaker 1: She was out in the middle of no we're literally
- 37:01Speaker 1: dispersed camping. In this case, A private citizen finds the
- 37:06Speaker 1: bank card, and I believe there are more people that
- 37:10Speaker 1: can tell us where is Riley.
- 37:13Speaker 2: I believe that, So why is that not happening?
- 37:16Speaker 8: You know, Nancy, I was just thinking about Gabby Patito.
- 37:19Speaker 8: It was people who were influencers, who were crowdsourcing information.
- 37:25Speaker 8: In some ways, Nancy, they were more motivated to solve
- 37:28Speaker 8: the crime than the police. Where the police see so
- 37:31Speaker 8: much they can become jaded, overwhelmed. Maybe they're understaffed.
- 37:35Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't speak to that.
- 37:37Speaker 8: But in terms of crowdsourcing information, people care about Riley Strain.
- 37:43Speaker 8: They see this blonde, good looking young man, educated from
- 37:47Speaker 8: a family who loves him, and they want to know
- 37:51Speaker 8: what happened. So I'm wondering, are the police plumbing this
- 37:55Speaker 8: very rich source. Are they're asking other people what happened?
- 37:59Speaker 8: Because this is where a lot of clues could be found.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Again, the tip line is six one five eight six
- 38:05Speaker 1: two eighty six hundred. If you know or think you
- 38:09Speaker 1: know anything about the disappearance of this young man literally
- 38:16Speaker 1: scrubbed in sunshine, please call six one five eighty six
- 38:21Speaker 1: two eighty six hundred. All of our efforts, thoughts and
- 38:26Speaker 1: prayers with Raleigh Strain and his family.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Now goodbye, friend.