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M and M EXTRA 07.15.26 | ICE Pause in Vehicle Stops, SCOTUS Security, and How Distractable are You? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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  Speaker 1: of talk show experience, an extension of the magic they've
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  Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M and
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  Speaker 1: M Hot Topics in the News and Wisdom from Light.
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  Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem Extra.
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  Speaker 2: This could be a dangerous day. I've gotten access to
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  Speaker 2: the YouTube page, so I think I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to even comment back as Mark and Mike battle
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  Speaker 2: things out. Happy Wednesday, Welcome to eminem. I'm Mike. He's Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I've got it loaded on the computer here in front
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  Speaker 2: of you. Mark, I think I can do it.
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  Speaker 3: As if you're not distracted enough by just gazing at
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  Speaker 3: the input from people in the YouTube sidebar, you realize
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  Speaker 3: we don't have commercial breaks. Well, we have commercial breaks,
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  Speaker 3: but not ones that you and I can actually take
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  Speaker 3: where you can dive out of the field of view
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  Speaker 3: and start interacting with these people. You have a hyperconnectivity
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  Speaker 3: to you that we just need to kind of put
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  Speaker 3: on pause. You caret and listen, focus, Focus right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's they It's the unanswered phone dilemma. I
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  Speaker 2: can't stand not answering the phone. I can't stand well
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  Speaker 2: and don't you Let's pull the curtain back a little
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  Speaker 2: bit as we pick off Wednesday, answering a phone All
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  Speaker 2: I live for not answering.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I got answer to every call I have, unless
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  Speaker 3: it's you or Lisa or something recognizable on the magic box.
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  Speaker 2: You mean, the biggest you get, like.
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  Speaker 3: An unknown phone number, you are driven to to kind
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  Speaker 3: of pick it up just to see who it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's the biggest dilemma of my life. When there's an
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  Speaker 2: unknown number. Do I answer or I don't answer? Well?
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  Speaker 2: But but pull the curtain back. It's during the show,
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  Speaker 2: during your show, every morning, during your show in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: do you answer texts and stuff while you're doing I
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  Speaker 2: actually do? I actually do.
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  Speaker 3: On on our text line, the Mark, they have a
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  Speaker 3: show text line eight six six six six oh five
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  Speaker 3: seven five nine and it works twenty people learn that
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  Speaker 3: the text line were twenty four to seven. I have
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  Speaker 3: people texting me from Singapore. It's like two o'clock in
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  Speaker 3: the morning. It's like, what, okay, but listen there it
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  Speaker 3: is for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: During the commercial breaks, if there's something particularly provocative or
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  Speaker 3: interesting on the text line, I will absolutely shoot them
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  Speaker 3: a little thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what I was asking you. I'm asking you
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  Speaker 2: if you? If you? And by the way, I've got
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  Speaker 2: a text line too, and mine's probably bigger than yours.
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  Speaker 2: Eight hundred sixty five five. Mike, you can text either
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  Speaker 2: one of us My text line and listen. You line
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  Speaker 2: is what you do with it? I'm sorry, and what
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  Speaker 2: why you do? And as you're watching, well, I lie
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  Speaker 2: glued to it. I love seeing the text coming in
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  Speaker 2: because it's like an instant focus group and so and
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  Speaker 2: we could do the same thing with the podcast. So
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  Speaker 2: if you want to text us eight hundred question was
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  Speaker 2: what your question? We finished, well, what were you asking? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you're in an interruptive mood that I can feel it.
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  Speaker 2: I can feel you're gonna Oh. I can just feel it.
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  Speaker 2: I know why because you're because you're defensive about the
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  Speaker 2: Amy Cony Barrett issue and the Daylight Savings issue. You're
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  Speaker 2: you're oh for two, You're oh for two. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: show why here just a moment. But anyway, my text
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  Speaker 2: line and you could text either one of us during
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  Speaker 2: the show too, or talk on the on the comment
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  Speaker 2: line here on the live chat on the YouTube channel
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  Speaker 2: every day, because we got a bunch of people in
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  Speaker 2: there right now, I've got a couple hundred people commenting
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  Speaker 2: and I can see it all. I'm excited, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: I might and I can block, I could? Should I
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  Speaker 2: say Hi everybody? I'm gonna say, I'm like the grandma
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  Speaker 2: on on Christmas Vacation? How are everybody? I just texted
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  Speaker 2: Hi everybody? So now I'm in there. Let's see what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like. Oh, MG studio, Okay, MGS studio. Hi, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: that's me in the little green circle if you want to,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to see my comments on the chat line.
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  Speaker 2: But no, I was, and I'm besides, I'm not talking
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  Speaker 2: about our show text line. I'm talking about your phone,
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  Speaker 2: your personal phone, okay, just in life during the day.
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  Speaker 2: What's your yeah in life? If if if Lisa texts
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  Speaker 2: you during does she text you during the show?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: I mean unless there's something vital like it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the water heater blew up or something like that. But no, no, no, right,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm I mean, you text me during the show,
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  Speaker 3: and did I not answer your run up? I can
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  Speaker 3: text while I'm talking to four people at the same
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  Speaker 3: time on air, I'm texting, I'm scrolling I'm making dinner reservations.
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  Speaker 3: I am a I'm the consummate multitasker, my friend, I
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  Speaker 3: have a story to tell. I have an amazing story
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  Speaker 3: to tell you about this. I'll answer your question and
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  Speaker 3: tell you a little arcane story about somebody in our
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  Speaker 3: industry that you have familiarity with. Okay, the short answer
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  Speaker 3: to your question is not really my main position during
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  Speaker 3: the show when I'm doing this show, for his text
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that, is leave me alone. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: ten o'clock soon enough. I'll get you right back. If
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  Speaker 3: Lisa needs anything, of course, she can text me and
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  Speaker 3: I'll take a look at it, et cetera. If there's
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  Speaker 3: anything urgent, of course I'll get her right back. You
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  Speaker 3: and me are kind of different because we're both doing shows.
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  Speaker 3: We're both right here, right now in the cauldron of
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  Speaker 3: the work environment. And yes, and to your credit, you
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  Speaker 3: will indeed be really responsive if I text you something
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  Speaker 3: during the show. You obviously have you do not disturb
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  Speaker 3: on at all time. There's never any time that I
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  Speaker 3: will text you unto the go bang well.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, right, unless I forget. Unless I forget, I
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  Speaker 2: don't put but I don't do do not disturb I
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  Speaker 2: just I turned the ringer off. I also I also
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  Speaker 2: have a for because I am active on my personal
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  Speaker 2: phone with text during the show. I have a strobe light.
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  Speaker 2: I use the strobe activation. So what is what is that?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: So it blinks? The phone blinks like a giant beacon.
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  Speaker 3: Like a like a fire alarm in the in the
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  Speaker 3: hotel rooms for the deaf, like a lighthouse. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: like a lighthouse in Maine. The light blinks and it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't bing. But then I know that somebody's trying. What
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  Speaker 3: if you wanted to reach me during my show, and
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  Speaker 3: I bid biddle. The light goes on, and I can
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  Speaker 3: pick up the phone and I can text you back
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  Speaker 3: while I'm talking. I have an incredible abiding respect for that.
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  Speaker 3: And yet I think it's insane all at the same time. Now,
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  Speaker 3: but you're doing shows and focusing or not. It is
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  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, it's nineteen it's nineteen ninety doing talk
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  Speaker 3: shows for about seven years, eight years at this time.
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  Speaker 3: And I had been in Jacksonville, I'd been in Memphis,
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  Speaker 3: and I went to Tampa right there where you are,
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  Speaker 3: about twelve weeks so I got hired and then they
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  Speaker 3: changed format that's what got me to Washington. And but
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  Speaker 3: for that, I wouldn't be here. So talk about God
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  Speaker 3: closing doors so that others can open. And so it's
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  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety and Tampa and that happens, and they let
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  Speaker 3: us all go. They blew away the entire staff. Oh sorry, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and the good people at WFLA and Tampa shure me
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  Speaker 3: come in and do some fill in shows that I
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  Speaker 3: used for audition tapes that I then used to get
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  Speaker 3: my job at WRC in Washington. But while I was there,
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  Speaker 3: While I was there, I witnessed something this is on
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  Speaker 3: here's the subject at hand. How much you focus on
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  Speaker 3: the show when you're doing the show. And I think
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  Speaker 3: my jam for my first seven years of talk to
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  Speaker 3: seven or eight years was during the commercial breaks because
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  Speaker 3: there was no such thing the internet. I'm just buried
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  Speaker 3: in newspaper articles. What am I going to say next?
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  Speaker 3: What am I going to think next? What are the
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  Speaker 3: next few calls I want to take? I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: was one hundred percent on just show, show, Show. Sure
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  Speaker 3: if somebody popped in the door, it's like, Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing show, show Show. While at WFLA and Tampa, I
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  Speaker 3: popped in and saw someone doing a show. He would
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  Speaker 3: do the show and then there's like a call it
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  Speaker 3: a four minute commercial break. He took those four minutes
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  Speaker 3: placing and receiving three or four calls, writing five or
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  Speaker 3: six emails that many of which I gathered had nothing
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  Speaker 3: to do with the show, and finished doing all of
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  Speaker 3: those non show things with like one second to go
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  Speaker 3: before being on the air. Is like what and then
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  Speaker 3: back to the show. My head nearly exploded at that
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  Speaker 3: kind of ability to compartmentalize. Do you know who that was?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Tell me nineteen ninety U f l a mild clue. Uh, No,
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  Speaker 3: work with this person?
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  Speaker 2: Who is it? Lionel? Really? Oh sure? I remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I work in machine still has a show.
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  Speaker 2: Check him out.
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  Speaker 3: Fascinating sort of libertarian, performative. Interesting dude. Well, and he
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  Speaker 3: was amazing. He and I were partners at WABC in
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  Speaker 3: New York for about a year and a half, from
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  Speaker 3: maybe to almost two years, and I sat across the
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  Speaker 3: desk from him every morning, and he would come in
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  Speaker 3: and do the same thing. I mean, but I do
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  Speaker 3: it too. I mean, I let me tell you, let
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  Speaker 3: me tell you. The compartmentalized, compartmentalized story of all compartmentalized
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  Speaker 3: stories and involves Bill O'Reilly at Fox News. This is
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  Speaker 3: a classic. So because Bill is Bill is known to yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we'll do it live. Well, he's known to be a
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  Speaker 3: little prickly, you know. I think he calls his podcast that, now.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do a lot. It's the best thing in the world.
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  Speaker 3: There's an old video of Bill when he was doing
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  Speaker 3: what was the show Not Entertainment Tonight inside edition in
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  Speaker 3: side edition right and at the right after the show,
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  Speaker 3: he would like do a promo like, coming up tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: we'll have this, this and this. Okay, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: coming up tomorrow, we'll do this, this and this, and
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  Speaker 3: then they just run the tape and he gets out
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  Speaker 3: of there. So there were some studio screw ups and
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't able to pre record it. So he's just
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  Speaker 3: he's getting insanely angry with his staff. He finally and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to clean it up fell He goes ef it,
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  Speaker 3: we'll do it live, and it's just famous for it,
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  Speaker 3: like the Casey Case of meltdown. Nothing better than watching
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  Speaker 3: famous people just lose it. And now his podcast is
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  Speaker 3: indeed and I love this kind of self deprecating humor
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  Speaker 3: is called let's do it live or We'll do.
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  Speaker 2: It live well. And of course, and to me, the
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  Speaker 2: funniest part of that clip, and you can find that
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, i'm sure, is after he's screaming and yelling
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  Speaker 2: and going carrying on the then they go to the
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  Speaker 2: wide shot at the end and he's ripping the ear
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  Speaker 2: piece out of his ear and he's kicking the chair
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  Speaker 2: and he's knocking over the table. It's well, I had
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  Speaker 2: one of those kind of moments with him. And when
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  Speaker 2: I was I used to be a frequent guest back
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  Speaker 2: in the day when I was a Fox News contributor,
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  Speaker 2: I did O'Reilly Show pretty often, and I went in
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  Speaker 2: one day to New York City in their studios on
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  Speaker 2: Sixth Avenue, and the makeup lady warned me, she said,
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  Speaker 2: Bill's in a bad mood today, so be careful, be cautious.
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  Speaker 2: He's in a bad mood. Steer clear. I thought, oh lord,
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  Speaker 2: what does that mean. They did they're off the air. No, well,
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  Speaker 2: she just told me he's in a bad mood. When
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  Speaker 2: I was getting my makeup on the in the green room,
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  Speaker 2: right or the makeup room. So then they lead me
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  Speaker 2: in like they always would do, and I would go
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  Speaker 2: onto that big set that you know with the desk
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  Speaker 2: and the lights and all that. Well, he's sitting at
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  Speaker 2: the table at the desk with one of those women's
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  Speaker 2: compact like cover girl makeup things, and he's touching himself
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  Speaker 2: up with his makeup with his powder. So he's looking
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  Speaker 2: at himself in the mirror, holding the little compact in
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  Speaker 2: his hand, and Mark he is raving. He's yelling at
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  Speaker 2: the what I think is himself. I walk in and
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  Speaker 2: I see him looking at the compact mirror in his hand,
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  Speaker 2: and he's touching up his makeup and he's saying, I
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  Speaker 2: told you that you were gonna have that sot when
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  Speaker 2: I need it. And he's yelling, and I'm thinking, oh
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  Speaker 2: my lord, he's having a mental breakdown. He's yelling at himself. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't yelling at himself. He was yelling at the crew,
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  Speaker 2: but he was looking at the mirror and touching up
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  Speaker 2: his makeup. But I'm just being let in and they
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  Speaker 2: plopped me down in the chair. Yeah, he doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: acknowledged that I'm there. I sit down. I've told you
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  Speaker 2: for the last time, and Bill five seconds four three,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna one more thing two one. The light
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  Speaker 2: goes on. He looks up to the camera smiles this
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  Speaker 2: big you know what eating grin. Welcome back to the Factor, Bill,
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  Speaker 2: O'Reilly here, and now we're joining. Now I'm a wreck.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, I didn't even know how. I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: even think because I thought this man has just I
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  Speaker 2: thought had an eruption of epic proportions. But you know what,
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  Speaker 2: that red light came on. He turned it off and
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  Speaker 2: turned it on, and it was one of the mark
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  Speaker 2: It was one of the wildest things I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: in my life.
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  Speaker 3: I can only imagine. And how many times have people
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  Speaker 3: asked you or how many times have you wondered about people?
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know what that says about O'Reilly, whom
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  Speaker 3: I know a little bit. I've had them, not as
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  Speaker 3: well as I. He's a remarkable person and a real,
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  Speaker 3: real talent and a real gift to American commentary for
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  Speaker 3: a long time. But the abiding question for people who
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  Speaker 3: do any type of this for a living is what
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  Speaker 3: are you like on the air versus off the air?
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  Speaker 3: So either for better or worse, annoyingly or not. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of like to think and I can certainly say
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  Speaker 3: this about you. You are one hundred percent what you hear,
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  Speaker 3: what you see.
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  Speaker 2: That's you.
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  Speaker 3: It is your heart, it is your talent, it's your
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  Speaker 3: gift for communication. There's no on air mic or off
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  Speaker 3: air mic, and I you know it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: and I've seen some people with you, so you were
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  Speaker 3: really really likable. And it's kind of funny because that's
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  Speaker 3: bill given. Somebody might and they might be a little
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  Speaker 3: harsh with the staff week week, but but there's some
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  Speaker 3: there's some people apparently. I don't think I've ever known
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  Speaker 3: anybody like this who has a real sweet, nice guy
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  Speaker 3: persona who's just a complete monster off the air. I
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  Speaker 3: hear stories, but well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the legendary there's a store, I mean, the legendary
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  Speaker 2: example not nice or not nice, but very different on
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  Speaker 2: air versus off air was Rush Limbaugh. Rush was not
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  Speaker 2: at all the bombastic on air persona off air off air.
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy to see to interact with him, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, we both you filled in for him over
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  Speaker 2: the years. I worked down the hall from him at WABC.
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  Speaker 2: He was incredibly quiet and shy, almost socially awkward, and
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  Speaker 2: he would admit that he wasn't the life of a party.
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  Speaker 2: He was a quiet guy, but on air that light
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  Speaker 2: went on, man, and he'd be hello, my fellow, blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah. Anyway, all right, let's get down to some
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  Speaker 2: brass tacks, because everybody's everybody wants you and I to
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  Speaker 2: have a big fight about the meek tony Barrett and
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  Speaker 2: I teased it. So let's fight even if we don't
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  Speaker 2: really mean it, and we don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the king of setup, so give me sixty seconds
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  Speaker 3: to do that, and then you just go after me
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  Speaker 3: in the way that you wished.
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  Speaker 2: Well, shut it up and don't forget. And as you
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  Speaker 2: don't say the set up, hold on. When you do
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  Speaker 2: the setup. Remember we've got we've got the video clip
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  Speaker 2: of her testimony yesterday asking for additional security, So I
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  Speaker 2: remember that you can and go for the call for
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  Speaker 2: the clip from you Asben when you're ready for it,
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  Speaker 2: and Sh'll hit it for you. Okay, But we've got
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  Speaker 2: that to so here, So here we go.
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  Speaker 3: So if this has to do with first of all,
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  Speaker 3: it's an interesting spectacle where Supreme Court justices are having
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  Speaker 3: to go lobby Congress for extra money so that they
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  Speaker 3: cannot get killed on the street. And Mike made a
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  Speaker 3: superb point that it seems to be the conservative justices,
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  Speaker 3: the Brett Kavanaughs, the Amy Cony Barretts, who seemed to
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  Speaker 3: be in danger. I don't think anybody's going to be
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  Speaker 3: threatening Katanji Brown Jackson or Sonya Sotamoi or any time sir,
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  Speaker 3: anytime soon. The leftist of the violence thing seems to
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  Speaker 3: be a factor left at the moment. So in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of this, the subject arose today that Amy Cony
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  Speaker 3: Barrett's voting patterns seem to have softened. She doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: to have the constitutional compass that she once did. And
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  Speaker 3: Mike had a fascinating theory that the leftist threat of
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  Speaker 3: violence is getting to her and making her bend some
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  Speaker 3: of her rulings. My position was, I have no way
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  Speaker 3: of knowing this, I hope not. Mike came out with
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  Speaker 3: a fascinating Hollywood screenplay in which she admits to this
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  Speaker 3: and steps away from the court. It's like, okay, so
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  Speaker 3: let me let Mike deliver his entire side of that.
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  Speaker 3: But first, here's Amy Cony Barrett talking about the security
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  Speaker 3: issue on Capitol Hill.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought I would just share a little bit
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  Speaker 4: about how the threats have affected me and my family personally.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: They have required me to my children to think about
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: and see things that children should not have to see
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: or think about. One example is when threats to my
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: life were particularly intense a few years ago, around the
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: time of the dobs Leek, my security detail sent me
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: home with a bulletproof vest and I carried it into
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: my house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: on a table, turned around, and my twelve year old
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: he wanted to know what it was and why I
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: had it. And I didn't know how to respond, because
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: this service was going to put me in the position
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: and why I had to wear one. It's also been
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: reported in the news that roughly six weeks ago, I
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: was the victim of a swatting incident. At that point,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: my teenage son, one of my teenage sons, opened the
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: door to go out with friends and saw in our
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: street it was full of police cars who had responded
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: to a false report of gunshots and raised voices in
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: my home. I was very, very grateful that I had
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Supreme Court police outside my home because they were able
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: to stop and meet with and explain to the County
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: police that it had been a false alarm and so
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the police did not actually attempt to enter our home.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Many of us, me included, have received threatening, anonymous deliveries
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: designed to intimidate and harass us. They are often sent
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: in the name of Judge Sallas's son, who I think,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: as you mentioned in the beginning, mister Chairman was is
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: deceased because he was killed by a disgruntled lawyer who
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: showed up at Judge Sallas's home intending to kill her,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: but her son, twenty years old at the time, opened
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: the door and took the bullet instead. Her husband standing
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: behind was seriously injured. So I think the message on
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: these deliveries being sent in his name is clear. As
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Justice Kagan said, ferteral judges across the country throughout the judiciary,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: including the Supreme Court, continue to do their jobs without
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: fear or favor, but the threat level is really high now.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: A couple of things, first of all, and I don't
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: want to tell anybody how to parent, But I don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: know why she would lack the imagination to tell her
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: twelve year old son there are evil, violent, awful people
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: in the world, and because of mommy's job, I have
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to take this precaution. I don't know why that's she's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: incapable of telling it, but that's her business. She's the parent,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure she's a loving, wonderful mom. But second
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: of all, to your point that we will never know
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: what's on her heart, we may not know what's on
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: her it's in her heart, but we know how she voted.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And they've been tracking this and they were able to
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: go through an entire list of all of her votes
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in terms of how she voted in non unanimous cases.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Before Dobbs, she voted with the conservative majority in non
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: unanimous cases eighty one percent of the time. After Dobbs,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that number dropped dramatically. Now she's in the fifty to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: sixty percent range, including of course, on birthright citizenship. She
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't believe in citizenship evidently as an American citizen. I mean,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they've opened the floodgates to this stupid birthright citizenship thing.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So we don't know what's on her heart. But It
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: seems to me, Mark that you are setting up or
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: setting me up in a way for the same ill
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: fated argument you tried with Joe Biden. You kept when
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I said, they're going to push Joe Biden out, he's
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: not going to be on the ticket. And you couldn't
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: believe I said that. You fought me on that. See,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you didn't see it happening because you're doing what you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: did then, what you're doing now. You said, well, how
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: will this work? Will Joe Biden come forward and say
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm incapable of being the president and I'm going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: rig Look, I didn't know how they were going to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: do it. I just knew he wasn't going to be
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: on the ticket. Same with her. I don't think she's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: going to come forward and say, look, my votes have
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: been impacted. But you would agree, and I think you
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: did this morning. If her votes are being impact if
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: she's trying to appease the violent leftists by voting with
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the liberals, if that, if somehow you had some crystal
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: ball or you could know it, you agreed with me
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: she should resign one percent.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And I'll even go a step further if she prays
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: about it. Talks to her husband about it, reflects on
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: it personally. It looks in the mirror and says, man,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I am changing my views on the Constitution out of
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: fear of leftist violence. I need to step down. I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: would think that that also had happened. Neither of those things, however,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: will happen. I will boldly go out on that limb.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's very different than whether Biden would step down. The
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: need for Biden's step down was obvious and right in
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: front of our faces. I just didn't think it would
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: happen until it actually did. In the case of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: perceived the actual change in her voting flavor, Afroan Dobbs
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: there is there should never be Latin on the show,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I believe. But here comes some There's a logical issue
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: called post hawc ergo propter hawk. It means it's the
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. It's kind of like climate change. We
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: have an industrial revolution, factories, and then the planet gets
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a little warmer. Oh, human productivity must have made the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: planet warmer. It's because B follows A. B must have
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: been caused by A. Her change in voting pattern has
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: absolutely happened. Does that automatically logically mean that there's some
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: cathartic event that happened that made them change. No, maybe
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: she's just wrong on some things. Maybe she's just soft
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: on citizenship for some other reason. I'm not discounting the
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: possibility of what you say, not at all, just saying
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: we'll never know. And I would say that at no
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: point where we have some mystery announcement that she's right.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't. I don't know there to be any
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: mystery announcement. What I do, what we know is what
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: we do know, and I gotta believe. And you you
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: look at the vetting process, and you know you got
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: heritage involved in vetting these candidates for President Trump. Who's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the guy what's the guy's name that's always it's got
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a very unique name. He's the guy always in the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: middle of Oh, I'm drawing a blank on his name.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You'll come up with it. He's the guy that you're well,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he's he's always involved in helping a Republican president vet
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a Supreme Court nominee, a justice. And it's not Frank
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: what's his name dog Garnet? But I can Leo, uh
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: not Leo Leonard Leo. Leonard Leo is the guy. Yes, yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Leonard Leo, and he I guarantee you there is a rigorous,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: extensive vetting process to make sure that we don't put
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: somebody who we think is going to be a conservative,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and God forbid, they start siding with the liberals. Look
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: what John Roberts has done. I mean, John Roberts has
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: let us down time and time again. And that's a shock.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And it's all maybe he wasn't properly vetted. In her case,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I got to believe Mark that she was sufficiently and
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: extensively vetted. And so therefore this fifty one percent of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the time that she's voting with the conservative majority is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a shock. It's unexpected, it's not routine, it's not normal.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: There's something else afoot here. And I think she's afraid.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I do you think for one minute the other justices
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: like Clarence Thomas appreciated Kagan and Barrett going before Congress
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: begging for more money for protection because they're so afraid.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Do you think they like that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think they begrudged them that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Do you do you think that that Clarence Thomas sat
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: at home and said, you know, crazy chicks, what are
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: they doing?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, let's let's look at something you kind of wanted.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: To be their objection. What would be their reason for thinking?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Well, number one, you show fear, you're going to open
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the flood gates, and the left is going to double down.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: You know we're gonna make it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: That's a spectacular point because as I watched her and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: bless her heart, she also has a little bit of
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a mini mouse voice. She's a big legal brain, a
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: woman of accomplishment. She's yeah, she's an amazing, amazing American story.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But when you've you know, you show your you show
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: your vulnerability like that, you're you're you're opening the door,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: they're going to think that they can get to you. Look,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: those two, those two justices yesterday, particularly Amy Coney Barrett,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: showed fear. They they she told the world, look, we
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: are worried, we're afraid. We need millions more for our
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: security instead of having Apparently, and John Senator John Kennedy's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: pushing back saying, there ain't no money, fairy. We're not
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: going to sit around just dole out millions and millions
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of dollars for security, which you know we can debate
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the wisdom of that, but no to Tyborr.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: On this if you're ready to Tibora and it something
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: occurs to me, why did this have to be on television.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Couldn't this have been in a letter where they kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: of make clear to members of Congress, Dear Congress, we
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: need more money for security.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Why in the world, why does everything have to be undelivle.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Wasn't a good idea? I think it's a really really
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: bad idea. But I want to play this for you.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: This is something you kind of rolled your eyes at
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: me this morning, but it does show the difference between
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: two really prominent just somebody named Kang Ming Lee has
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: an X account and they put together a juxtaposition. They
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: compare what Clarence Thomas said during the Anita Hill hearings
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and how they tried to destroy and derail him, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: they compared what Clarence Thomas sounded like to what area
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to what Amy Coney Barrett sounds like today.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I'd rather die than withdraw. If they're going to kill me,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: They're going.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: To kill me.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So you would still like to serve on the Supreme Court.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I'd rather die than withdraw from the process, not for
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: the purpose of serving on the Supreme Court, but for
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the purpose of not being driven out of this process,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: I would not be scared. I don't like bullies. I've
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: never run from bullies. I never cry uncle, and I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: not going to cry uncle today, whether I want to
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: be on the Supreme.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Court or not.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: So I thought I would just share a little bit
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: about how the threats have affected me and my family personally.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: They have required me to my children to think about
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: and see things that children should not have to see
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: or think about. One example is when threats to my
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: life were particularly intense a few years ago, around the
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: time of the dobs Leek, my security detail sent me
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: home with a bulletproof vest and I carried it into
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: my house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: on a table, turned around, and my twelve year old
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: he wanted to know what it was and why I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: had it. And I didn't know how to respond because
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: this service was going to put me in the position
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and why I had to wear.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: One A little different to one of these I like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that straight exactly read my mind.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: One of these things is not like the other. Okay,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: multiple thoughts. Number one, God bless Clarence Thomas. I love Scalia.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I love Scalia. Clarence Thomas I think has just edged
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: into belit is my favorite Supreme Court justice ever. But
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: now to the matter it had. First of all, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: did wonder how fair this is and whether it's apples
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and apples. I don't know if we were blowing away
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: people right and left in nineteen ninety one, or even
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: if we were, and you asked a great question this morning,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: even if we if we had, if leftist violence had
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: been in such a full throat in nineteen ninety one,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: would Clarence Thomas have backed away one bit? He would
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: not have. That is a pretty masterful juxtaposition of them.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And now I don't know. It's a tough it's a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: tough issue, and I don't want anybody to have think
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I have a lack of compassion for any long No,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of course, Dad. They worry about their kids, they worry
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: about the safety well, and it's got to be an
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: awful This is how awful these people are to show
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: up at a Supreme Court justice's house and threaten them
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and send them packages in the mail and all this
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: horrible stuff. Look, they're a violent, nasty bunch. And that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: not to say every Democrat is like that, but Mark,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: take a look at the polling data and look at
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the percentage of Democrats who think political violence is acceptable,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and Mark, that's terrifying.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: And it's and it's pritty. And again, the number of
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: people who really are going to threaten to do something
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: horrible like that or actually do it is but a
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: tiny sliver one is too many. But far broader is
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the number of people who will just do crazy things. Listen,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's a million miles different than what the kind of
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: things we're talking about and actually trying to kill people.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I want in Maine because I would love to know
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: your thoughts about the whole Main shooting thing. But Susan
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Collins is catching holy you know what, because she voted
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: for ice funding, thank you very much. And then the
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: people of Maine are the people who hate her in
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Maine are up there banging like Bansh's on the door
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: of her office. Does she not have security at her
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: actual office in Portland or wherever that is there?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: F you, Susan Collins. Bam, bam, bam.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Is like, what in the world is going on here?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And that's not a small percentage. I mean that's not
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: all the party, or even half the party, but the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: number of people whom you can gin up into really radicalized, disruptive,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and maybe even violent behavior, it is growing more pervasive
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: by the day. And that's the kind of stupid mindset
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: that makes them think I'm going to run from ice
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: officers or maybe even run over ice officers. This is
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: a mess.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about this bizarre suspension that Mark Wayne
• 30:07
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  Speaker 2: I heard you push back mightily at this bizarre ban
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  Speaker 2: or suspension of this of stopping vehicle same vehicle stops
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: because there's another controversy. We're just gonna stop vehicle stops. Well,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: if I'm an illegal immigrant, I'm finding me a car
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: right now, because I'm good to go for a week
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: or however long. This stupid pause is going to last. Well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: but you didn't hear President Trump came in an hour
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: or so ago and overturned it. Yeah, so newsflash, I mean,
• 32:32
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  Speaker 2: He comes along and says, no, they need that need
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to be able to do vehicle stops. Look. Bill Malusian
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: was reporting Mark that ninety percent of the arrests that
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they've been making are due to vehicle stops. So he
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: was talking to sources within Ice who said, gosh, I mean,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: this is demoralizing, this is awful. We need to be
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: able to have the ability to stop vehicles. And for
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: crying out loud, why would Mark Wayne Mullen, Now I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: got him under the hot on the hot seat. Now,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: what the hell is he thinking? Why would you suspend
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: an effective one because of one shooting where an eyewitness
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: said that the guy behind the wheel of the car
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: was trying to hit the ice officers. It was the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: same thing. Was Minneapolis all over again? It was?
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: And I was watching Tom Homan, whom I additionally love, saying, well,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: this isn't really going to affect enforcement. We're not going
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: to be arresting fewer people. Oh of course mathematically by definition. Okay, listen,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: breaking news blah blah blah. So I'm looking at this
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: and groc informs me that are you looking at the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Trump social media posts where he said we cannot give
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: up on one of ICE's most important and effective crime
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: fighting tools, the traffic stop. He urged agents to be judicious,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: fair and smart and continue their work. Okay, is that
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Trump saying stuff as he will famously do, or is
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: it him officially overturning the pause.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Let's say yea. The way the media related this an
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: hour or so ago was that Trump is overturning the pause,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that he's saying that we are not going to lose
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the traffic stop, the vehicle stop component of arrests by ICE.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: So you know, it might be a distinction without a difference.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe, And in fact, analyst Groc admits as much. This
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: is a weird sentence. No, Trump has not formally overturned
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the pause yet, but he publicly directed ICE to resume
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: vehicle stops, calling it a key enforcement tool. Well, uh
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: so I will vote for it. Yes, it was over
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: t I stand by.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Well, that's okay, because Trump has a commons well, and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: by the way, Trump can read the tea leaves. If
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you're on your show this morning, maybe he's listening to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you today. Oh, yeah, I love you. That was it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: But I guarantee you you're a great you and I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: hopefully are a great representative of how the American people
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: are feeling. And it didn't it didn't land right with us.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It was like it was really good. And that's another
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: good thing about him. But from I mean, he went
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: listenly to come right into Texas. Apparently for ten seconds
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: he considered endorsing John Cornyn. I think a few people
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: got in touch with him about that and made that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: go away in a hurry.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I think he entertained for a little bit, chewed on
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: the notion of red flag laws. Wow, well, Bill might
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: need to take his guns away for some reason preemptively.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: They're totally unconstitutional, and he thought better of that. Good
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: for him, for all of these As Dennis Prager wrote,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: our great friend Dennis Prager wrote a wonderful book called
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Think a Second Time, and that is it's good for
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: all of us. If he's something, some conclusion strikes you, bam,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: give it a minute, let it marinate, think about it again,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: maybe a third time, because sometimes you'll think that maybe
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: our first instinct might not have been right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: These cases though, whether it's an ice involved arrest or.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's a young person of color, maybe gets pulled over
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to the side of the road by an officer. These
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: cases of people resisting and fleeing and fighting and failing
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to obey lawful commands by a law enforcement officer make
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me crazy. They make that I mean, we've talked about
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: this for years, our parents having the chat black or
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: white or Hispanic or Asian? Are you talking to your
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: kids and teaching them you do what the officer tells
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you to do. If you've got an objection to what
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: they're doing, there'll be a time to challenge that. There'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: be a time to appeal it. But on the side,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: on the side of the beltline road and irving at
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: ten o'clock at night with the blue lights flashing, that's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: not the time to fight a cop because you're going
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to probably lose. And it just makes me nuts when
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: we have this big debate and now it's happening with Ice.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but enough is enough already.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: You do what an officer tells you to do, damn it, period,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And I get tired the people. The only people that
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: don't agree with me on that are people who have
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a chip on their shoulder over cops. You mark my words,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you have said you know nothing.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's borderline child abuse for black parents to
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: gather their kids and say, Okay, it's time to have
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: the talk. And that's the talk where they tell their proud,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: beautiful black American children that outside their home are evil,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: racist cops looking to shoot you without provocation, and, by
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: the way, a racist hellhole, systemically prejudiced country that's there
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: to fight you at every turn. I think that is
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: psychological child abuse to tell that to a black child.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think Alan West or Clarence Thomas or Byron
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Donald's parents did that to them.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Nope, you got that right. The talk that every parent
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: should have is respect and obey what law enforcement tells
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you to do. And I know people don't like that.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: By the way, I'm very proud. I'm very excited my
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: newfound power. There's a guy that's been in there for
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: on the chat room, Captain Caveman, borderline troll, right. He's
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: he's been critical of all of our positions. But I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: asked the group, I'm in here now, and people think
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I'm tracy because the screen name apparently is MGS studio,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: but it's got Tracy's name on there, but I'm on there.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: It's me. So, for for all intents and purposes, Tracy
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: is Mike on this live chat right now on YouTube.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: So Captain Caveman was skirting with danger, he was flirting
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: with disaster, and then he called. Then I said to
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the group, should we keep him in or should we
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: block him? And everybody said, nah, let him, We'll argue
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: with him. Keep him in there. Did you do this
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: when he called Ice? Brown? Show went okay? A couple
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: of minutes ago, just now, a minute ago, one minute ago,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I just banned it, blocked him.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: So while I'm talking to you, or what did you
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: do it during the Amy Cony Barrett clip or when
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to you.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I did it a minute ago. I did it. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: am a multitasker. I'm telling you. I can text. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: just ordered some lunch from Movers. I mean I can
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: do I can walk and chew gums.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I mean I know what my hoa fees had ordered
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: some stuff off of Amazon.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: While you were talking about the Ice, I tried to
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: warn Captain cave Man will never be able to do that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I will do never be not to do that. Do
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: not call these heroes, these brave men and women of
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: law enforcement, And that's what they are. They are law enforcement.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And I am so sick of these degenerates like Captain
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: cave Man referring to law enforcement as brown shirts. They're not.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: But they're doing their damn job. There is a matt
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: whether you haven't like it or not, Captain ca Man,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: there is a mass deportation underway in this country, and
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: these are the men and women who have to enforce it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: What do you want to do? Have social workers handle
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: some murderer or rapist you know who's on the street,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: on the corner there or in his car. Give me
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a break. So I gave cave Man some chance.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: But okay, but does he remain active status or has
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: he been blown into orbit around neften?
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's been he's been vaporized. He's been gone. He's
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: gone the block. I will miss hearing you invoke him
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: ten times. You don't block anybody, do you? No?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: On Twitter?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I do. My bar is really high. You can disagree
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: with me. You can play yeah, I mean, you can
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: get really edgy with me. And I'm a big fan
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: of knowing whom to ignore. I just but if somebody
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: is abusive, not so much towards me, but maybe just
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: just just seems to be just a total jerk. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: will block people like that, not because I've taken offense
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: or triggered, but because I'm bored. I just don't have
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: time for that kind of this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: This is in my world. It's a benevolent dictatorship. I
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: will not put up with any dissent. You don't like
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: me blocked, you don't agree with me, block now, I do.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I block a lot on X. Now I'm gonna be
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a little I'll be a little bit, you know. I'll
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: have some leeway here on the live chat because we're
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: trying to grow this. And look, we're going to have
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: people that as M and M Extra grows, and we
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: hope you tell everybody about it. We hope you hit
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the like button there, like we like Mad Mike, just
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to suggest it for people, hit the like button. Make
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: sure you subscribe. If you're not subscribed, please subscribe. Tell
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: your friends. Because this this thing grows, we're gonna find
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: people outside of our normal orbit and they're going to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: come in and they're going to be a part of
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: what we do. And they're not gonna always agree with us.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I don't mind disagreement. Don't call law enforcement brown shirts.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: That pisses me off.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I think another difference between our operations is I think
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you have a theater screen where you are able to
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: see all of what's going on in the side comments
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: thing in you know, in letters that are like eighteen
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: point type. I've got my laptop sitting here, a lovely
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Apple MacBook laptop that cost me plenty, but I kind
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: of have to do this lean over and squint a
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: little bit in order to.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: The print is small, the type is.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Small, and I think I saw was it the final
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Captain Caveman memorial comment? Or is he actually gone? Is
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: a appy Caveman sixty?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gone?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: That is a different one. You don't announce you or
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: don't have to announce your department.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not an airport. You don't need to let
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: him know. I told him he's gone. I said you're gone.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Now you, I said, Caveman, you're out, You're gone. But
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: somebody just posted Captain Caveman didn't get paid to protest
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: today because Soros wrote ran out of money.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: But did you, in fact to let the record show
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: that you left it to the commenting crowd to take
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: a kind of a rough vote on whether someone should
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: be dispatched and vapors.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: The first time when I was when I was on
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: the verge of blocking him, but then when he called
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Ice brown shirts, that was that was a bridge too far.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: But listen for people who aren't discovering us and have
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: no idea that either of us have had radio shows
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: for forty years. I love that because I would be
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: kind of curious what people think who stumble across this
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: little in a little enterprise and say, who in the
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: world are even.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Are these guys?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So maybe that means it's wise for us to every
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: once in a while make clear some things that any
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: regular followers and listeners of ours should know. And that
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: one thing that occurs to me now is when there
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: is a bad cop, when there is a bad shooting,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: when there is something that's just not defensible, will be
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the first to say so it's because we back the
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: blue or back the Camo in the case of Ice,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: or however you want to phrase it. That proper following
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: the law, proper procedure means everything to us. And if
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: there's ever an indefensible bad shooting, et cetera, et cetera.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: We will not hesitate to call it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And I promise I won't mind disagreement. I don't mind,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and it's I mean it, just just don't be a
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: jerk about it. Just don't be an a hole. But
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: here's but here's what I am finding though, this is
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: we're all learning YouTube together in podcast new space. People
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: are telling me he's still posting. I wonder if blocking
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: when I block from my computer here in the studio,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: if that just blocks him from me, because people are
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: telling me they're still seeing him. I am too.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing, I'm developing warm feelings for this guy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: We may start to like him.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: He will be as famous as we are if we
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: just continue to invoke him. He says, I've listened to
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you guys for over a decade, see a decade.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Well, well, first of all, I don't know that's true.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: They see that. That's what people say. I voted for
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Trump three times and when they launch into these they
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: all three and they all, you know, that's not believe that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I believe him. Well, but there but maybe, but but
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: maybe when I block, it doesn't take him out of
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the chat room. Yasmin do you see Yasmin could Oh
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: she said, oh, you have to change the account. Oh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I've got to go to the channel account. Apparently, Uh,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yasmin just put him in time out. She just put
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: him in. So maybe he'll come as a six year old. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: you behave cave man and we'll let you come back in. Maybe.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Don't you cross us, don't you? You must comply, You
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: must comply, all right, I love you. Happy Wednesday. Let's
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: call it a day, and hey, just keep against tell
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the world about minem extra because we're having a great
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: time with this, clearly thing of ours, so clearly having
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: too much fun.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Mark, Happy Wednesday, my friend. Happy Wednesday to you and everybody.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Come see Mike on the radio. Follow Mike on Twitter
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: at Gallagher show me on Twitter at Mark Davis. We
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: both have radio shows. Maybe you should listen to them
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: for the first time. Thanks for hanging out with us
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: here in the land of M and m X.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: See everybody.