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- 0:01Speaker 1: On a weekend.
- 0:02Speaker 2: It was in Las Vegas.
- 0:11Speaker 1: You don't mean anything to me because the last real champ.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Is here talking back. I talk him back. I'm talking back.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I didn't make it hard.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Nowhere.
- 0:32Speaker 2: You are the latest legend that I have to push down.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Michael game is sich.
- 0:40Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tap down Ryni just about. I'm going
- 0:45Speaker 2: to mol you. I'm going to grab your by the
- 0:49Speaker 2: hand and drive it into this man who.
- 0:52Speaker 4: Got a problem with col You gonna problem with me.
- 0:55Speaker 4: Yam life and Jeff I can ride him.
- 0:59Speaker 3: I'm a sad all the shots.
- 1:02Speaker 5: In five minutes. I'm ready for the greatest effort. You
- 1:05Speaker 5: pray for pas and they give you more. I'm gonna
- 1:09Speaker 5: make that matter like I made you matter.
- 1:11Speaker 3: You light them up.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Elect the five Folk of People as the latest what Long.
- 1:17Speaker 6: Days Yo Price, Wait, I don't right the.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Fog, the later Welcome Double Double Away Backlash.
- 1:31Speaker 2: You're gonna be in for what Hell to Night.
- 1:35Speaker 7: Winners Right History and now Morgan and Morgan Presents.
- 1:49Speaker 3: W W Backlash.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And c W Alumni Look Blue Meaning and you're listening
- 2:09Speaker 4: to pc W. The question is, oh you.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Let me talk to her.
- 2:22Speaker 6: I will give you a show like you have never
- 2:25Speaker 6: recovered being before a life because I can't.
- 2:30Speaker 8: What do you guys want to talk.
- 2:31Speaker 3: About me.
- 2:43Speaker 8: And the color red in the world with a black.
- 2:47Speaker 4: And white ether of worlds? Yeah?
- 3:06Speaker 8: Cha? What's up?
- 3:13Speaker 2: Big bad?
- 3:14Speaker 9: You got a big bad?
- 3:15Speaker 8: What I felt?
- 3:17Speaker 2: Whoa?
- 3:18Speaker 10: Why?
- 3:18Speaker 8: There? Back?
- 3:28Speaker 5: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling all ages.
- 3:39Speaker 5: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 3:43Speaker 5: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 3:46Speaker 5: and it is time to review Backlash. We got there,
- 3:52Speaker 5: We're done, and we're already moving on. All gas, no brakes.
- 3:57Speaker 5: We're literally going to right in the Saturday night main event.
- 4:01Speaker 5: No chill, it's it's it's hell uh. And you know
- 4:07Speaker 5: what I thought about today, which is really funny, is
- 4:12Speaker 5: I've had some people ask like how long will you
- 4:14Speaker 5: go with this podcast? And you know, some people just
- 4:18Speaker 5: do it until they just can't do it no more.
- 4:21Speaker 5: And I'm always like, well, there you're not. There's always
- 4:24Speaker 5: as I'll take a break. You know, there's a break
- 4:26Speaker 5: in wrestling. No, there's no break in wrestling. We don't
- 4:29Speaker 5: have no off season. We're non stop. COVID can't stop it,
- 4:35Speaker 5: nothing can stop it wrestling is it's every fucking day now.
- 4:40Speaker 5: But that said, let me bring out my guest here
- 4:43Speaker 5: we go.
- 4:45Speaker 9: Oh it's okay. I'm like like, it's on me now.
- 5:12Speaker 8: I'm gonna get him all.
- 5:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna get him all.
- 5:24Speaker 5: Welcome back, dra.
- 5:27Speaker 6: Yo yo, what it do? Pc W Crew main event?
- 5:30Speaker 6: Dre So was back on your podcast.
- 5:33Speaker 5: How is the weather there?
- 5:37Speaker 2: Shitty shitty as hell?
- 5:41Speaker 6: Started off okay, and then as the day went on,
- 5:44Speaker 6: they gradually got more and more ominous, and then all
- 5:47Speaker 6: hell broke loose set around five o'clock or so. It's
- 5:52Speaker 6: been storming since. It seems to have calmed down a
- 5:55Speaker 6: bit now though.
- 5:56Speaker 5: Right it just seems like the whole East Coast is
- 5:58Speaker 5: getting head with garbage head.
- 6:00Speaker 2: H m hm.
- 6:03Speaker 5: So if we lose you during the podcast, we know
- 6:05Speaker 5: it's due to the storm sore. But yeah, all right,
- 6:12Speaker 5: well let's bring out our buddy, Let's bring out our partner.
- 6:15Speaker 5: Let's bring out.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
- 6:26Speaker 11: Mmmmmm mm hmmm.
- 6:34Speaker 4: H.
- 6:36Speaker 6: M hm.
- 6:39Speaker 11: M m.
- 6:42Speaker 12: M hmmm.
- 6:44Speaker 13: Mm hmmm.
- 6:48Speaker 5: Doyle.
- 6:50Speaker 8: Oh, it's me, It's me.
- 6:52Speaker 12: It's a Doyle and uh yeah, what is the ta
- 6:55Speaker 12: here too? I guess it is an all East coast
- 6:58Speaker 12: all rain.
- 7:00Speaker 8: Uh, well we need.
- 7:04Speaker 5: A rain, no shine, Yeah, we do needed it though
- 7:09Speaker 5: my plants needed law needed it. Everything at my job
- 7:14Speaker 5: outside is dusty and disgusting. It needed it. So yeah,
- 7:18Speaker 5: I'm all for it because you know what, after this,
- 7:20Speaker 5: I kind of want to go kayaking and the water
- 7:22Speaker 5: will be pretty high. So I'm all for it, guys,
- 7:27Speaker 5: but nice. So backlash takes place Saint Louis. You know,
- 7:37Speaker 5: hometown of ye home of Randy Orton. Uh if you
- 7:44Speaker 5: have guys, ever been out there to like the arch
- 7:47Speaker 5: in St. Louis.
- 7:48Speaker 2: No, No, never been to Saint Louis.
- 7:51Speaker 5: I was there like two years ago. I was so
- 7:55Speaker 5: I got some pictures and I even got like this
- 7:57Speaker 5: really nice poster I have hanging up or not poster
- 8:01Speaker 5: artwork hanging on my wall. I went. It was really
- 8:05Speaker 5: hot when I went, and I guess they have these
- 8:10Speaker 5: rides that take you up all the way up through
- 8:13Speaker 5: but I was thinking of how hot it was, and
- 8:16Speaker 5: I was like, and you want to put me in
- 8:17Speaker 5: a metal bin and take me up higher, closer to
- 8:19Speaker 5: the sun, and you want me to pay money for
- 8:21Speaker 5: this experience. I was like, I don't think so I'll
- 8:24Speaker 5: come back I'll come back when it's cooler out you know.
- 8:28Speaker 5: There was a really nice car show right by the river,
- 8:31Speaker 5: right by the Mississippi River. That was cool to see. Ah, yeah,
- 8:37Speaker 5: that's pretty cool out there. I saw a lot of
- 8:39Speaker 5: wrestlers and some other podcasters taking pictures of themselves out there.
- 8:43Speaker 5: So it's always cool. And they visit the monuments in
- 8:46Speaker 5: the area, just like when they came to Philly, people
- 8:49Speaker 5: taking pictures by the Rocky Statue and the steps and
- 8:52Speaker 5: all that shit. You know, where I live, there's a pagoda,
- 8:59Speaker 5: but you never see when they come here. You never
- 9:01Speaker 5: see them go up to the pagoda and get their
- 9:03Speaker 5: pistures taken. Nobody wants to go there. Actually, when wrestlers
- 9:07Speaker 5: will come here, me and my friends, Me and Ron,
- 9:11Speaker 5: we would normally find them in Hooters.
- 9:13Speaker 12: So I've been to that pagoda.
- 9:18Speaker 5: Yeah, this one near my house.
- 9:22Speaker 8: Redding.
- 9:23Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see how many there being.
- 9:27Speaker 6: Yeah they Yeah, in the United States, I've got we
- 9:32Speaker 6: got one here Infolk.
- 9:33Speaker 12: In Eastern in in Redding, in the Redding area. Yeah,
- 9:39Speaker 12: in the Greater Redden area. You get a pa and
- 9:43Speaker 12: you better get a pagoda.
- 9:44Speaker 6: Man, I don't I'm about to say, we damn s
- 9:47Speaker 6: got a random ass pagoda in Norfolk by the Water.
- 9:52Speaker 2: It's not like it ain't trying to town. It ain't nothing.
- 9:54Speaker 2: That's just downtown Norfolk by the Water right next.
- 9:58Speaker 6: To I've got what ship there's like permanently docked bear
- 10:01Speaker 6: ye and then pagoda.
- 10:04Speaker 5: It's not like, uh, it's not like the Beacons and
- 10:07Speaker 5: Lord of the Rings like the pagoda and then everybody
- 10:10Speaker 5: likes their pagodas all across the country. Yeah, they put
- 10:15Speaker 5: a fence around there, but uh it's yeah, the day
- 10:20Speaker 5: can go up, but like at night because I guess
- 10:22Speaker 5: they had too many people partying up there, so they
- 10:24Speaker 5: fenced it all off. But I get a great view
- 10:27Speaker 5: of it from my house. That's that's good enough for me.
- 10:30Speaker 5: But every time, like you know, somebody who's not from
- 10:33Speaker 5: this area comes up here, they're like, oh my god,
- 10:35Speaker 5: you have a pagoda. Yes, yes, you know it's not
- 10:39Speaker 5: the Statue of Liberty, but you know whatever.
- 10:43Speaker 2: That's when you guys just gotta act boogie about it,
- 10:44Speaker 2: like what you don't but.
- 10:46Speaker 5: You don't have one. Jeez, God, crap down.
- 10:53Speaker 6: Right to your shitty ass time with no pagoda.
- 10:57Speaker 5: Yea, he's taking my town. Well, you know.
- 11:03Speaker 2: What, You're also not bad for a place that ain't
- 11:06Speaker 2: got a pagoda.
- 11:08Speaker 8: St.
- 11:08Speaker 5: Louis culture. They have some big random march ah. You
- 11:15Speaker 5: know what, I'm just gonna let you take over and
- 11:17Speaker 5: I'm just gonna ramble on forever.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Turn into a whole show about pagodas and ship right.
- 11:27Speaker 2: So yeah, backlashes.
- 11:31Speaker 6: Wayne said was in Saint Louis at the Enterprise Center,
- 11:36Speaker 6: which big as city, like Saint Louis, big ass arena.
- 11:41Speaker 2: No NBA team really, oh ship?
- 11:45Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, the Blue must play there, right.
- 11:52Speaker 6: That's all like, like, who the fuck plays there? Like
- 11:55Speaker 6: they don't have an NBA, they don't have the Rams anymore.
- 12:01Speaker 6: The Cardinals in at the baseball team there. Yeah, so,
- 12:06Speaker 6: I mean they got to obviously their baseball field. I
- 12:09Speaker 6: don't know if they have hockey, but yes, oh.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.
- 12:19Speaker 6: But well so, I guess it's enough for seventeen thousand
- 12:23Speaker 6: plus fans to go ten hockey.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Games in the Midwest. Whatever works for them.
- 12:28Speaker 6: I ain't judging much, yeah much, But anyway, so this show,
- 12:39Speaker 6: before we even dive into the matches themselves, one thing
- 12:43Speaker 6: I do want to touch on, well, two things I
- 12:44Speaker 6: want to touch on before we get into the individual
- 12:46Speaker 6: matches and break them down. You kind of touched on
- 12:49Speaker 6: it a bit way in at the beginning. But this
- 12:52Speaker 6: insane fucking pl calendar that WWE has going right now, Yeah,
- 12:59Speaker 6: and it is not letting up anytime soon as far
- 13:03Speaker 6: as them just having event after event with little to
- 13:06Speaker 6: no time in between. Because what this backlash were what
- 13:11Speaker 6: three weeks removed from WrestleMania, Yeah, and we got backlash,
- 13:17Speaker 6: And here's some of the events coming up. So obviously
- 13:20Speaker 6: backlash was this past Saturday seventeenth, Saturday Night's Main event,
- 13:26Speaker 6: May twenty fourth, June seventh, Money in the Bank June
- 13:32Speaker 6: twenty eighth, Night of Champions July fifth, tentatively rumored a
- 13:38Speaker 6: evolution the all women Women's pay per view, July twelfth,
- 13:44Speaker 6: another Saturday Nights made event. Then three weeks later we
- 13:50Speaker 6: get the two Nights Summer Slam. Then at the end
- 13:54Speaker 6: of the month, Clash in Paris August thirty first. Then
- 13:59Speaker 6: they finally calm the fuck down a little bit because
- 14:02Speaker 6: nothing happens in September as of now, and Crown Jewel
- 14:06Speaker 6: is on October eleventh, then Survivors Series on November twenty fifth,
- 14:12Speaker 6: and then Saturday Night's Made Event December thirteenth.
- 14:16Speaker 12: Well, I think it's pretty clear what's happened, saying they
- 14:19Speaker 12: must have gotten word that Wayne finally had some programming
- 14:21Speaker 12: for us between pay per viewers, and then they said, oh,
- 14:24Speaker 12: you know what, We're just not gonna have any time
- 14:25Speaker 12: between pay per viewers now, right, so break.
- 14:28Speaker 5: Like I was like, man, like, I would love to
- 14:31Speaker 5: squeeze in like some of these cool bracket ideas I.
- 14:33Speaker 8: Have, right, and like, yeah, no, it's just we.
- 14:37Speaker 5: Just don't have the time. We're getting hammered non stop.
- 14:40Speaker 5: And uh it's not letting up. It's not like now
- 14:44Speaker 5: they're adding more and more WWE content than ever. And
- 14:49Speaker 5: you know what, I've had people at like other listeners
- 14:52Speaker 5: and just other people generally, why don't you guys cover
- 14:54Speaker 5: like raw and SmackDown, And like, aw, I'm like, because
- 14:59Speaker 5: we don't have time. We have barely enough time to
- 15:03Speaker 5: cover just the pay per views because they come at
- 15:06Speaker 5: us so fucking quick, you know, Uh yeah.
- 15:10Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean I would like to be
- 15:13Speaker 6: able to tune into a w moore or see what's
- 15:16Speaker 6: going on over there and chat chat on it every
- 15:19Speaker 6: now and then. But honestly, with as much stuff that
- 15:21Speaker 6: happens that's going on in the E right now, and realistically,
- 15:26Speaker 6: we're humans, we have interests outside of just wrestling.
- 15:30Speaker 5: What.
- 15:31Speaker 6: I don't know how many days of the week I
- 15:32Speaker 6: want to completely commit to watching wrestling, especially as it
- 15:36Speaker 6: is now Raw Monday, and XT Tuesday, Dynamite Wednesday, A
- 15:41Speaker 6: Break maybe on Thursday, smack Down.
- 15:43Speaker 8: Friday, right.
- 15:51Speaker 2: And Saturday's Collision.
- 15:54Speaker 12: And if you want to watch these others they've gotten
- 15:58Speaker 12: now uh, Evolve and Evolve.
- 16:04Speaker 8: And there's a Twitter show. Yeah.
- 16:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:12Speaker 6: You gotta pick and choose what you're gonna watch, what
- 16:15Speaker 6: what you're gonna focus on and investing and obviously some
- 16:18Speaker 6: stuff is worth your time more than others. You know,
- 16:21Speaker 6: as I like to watch NXT, Do I catch it
- 16:24Speaker 6: every week? No, But if something pops up there or
- 16:27Speaker 6: if I have time, yeah, I'll tune in, especially if
- 16:30Speaker 6: there's something going on that catches my attention, especially evolving
- 16:33Speaker 6: the women, because you know, they they've been marketing and
- 16:37Speaker 6: promoted for a while that the women's division in NXT
- 16:40Speaker 6: is the best division women's division in wrestling, and they
- 16:44Speaker 6: ain't wrong.
- 16:45Speaker 8: They're not wrong.
- 16:48Speaker 6: They gave them show got an argument, and quite frankly,
- 16:51Speaker 6: right now, the women are probably carrying NXT a lot
- 16:54Speaker 6: more than the men.
- 16:56Speaker 5: Well, you know what, the women are gonna have a
- 16:58Speaker 5: chance to shine because July twelfth this year, they're going
- 17:02Speaker 5: to be doing a w W evolution two p l E.
- 17:07Speaker 2: But guys, it's the fifth, well the fifth we're doing?
- 17:11Speaker 8: What day? It is?
- 17:12Speaker 2: Like the fifth or the twelfth?
- 17:13Speaker 6: Because Saturday night made have ventislaated for the twelfth evolution.
- 17:18Speaker 6: I think I saw the rumors that it might be
- 17:19Speaker 6: the twelfth, Like one, how the fuck are you gonna
- 17:22Speaker 6: do two things on the same night? Are you gonna
- 17:23Speaker 6: move dates? Are you gonna switch evolution in main event
- 17:27Speaker 6: in the morning and.
- 17:29Speaker 5: Then they're gonna do main event at night while a
- 17:33Speaker 5: w all in Texas.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Is on, which is fucking insane.
- 17:38Speaker 6: But even with that, regardless of how they doing with
- 17:41Speaker 6: the days, my main point in bringing up all those
- 17:44Speaker 6: dates is and to and to bring it back to
- 17:46Speaker 6: backlash is with such short time frames between these events,
- 17:53Speaker 6: how the hell are you expected to build any of
- 17:55Speaker 6: this ship up in a way that makes people truly interested?
- 18:01Speaker 6: It's near impossible you're pretty much just throwing matches together,
- 18:06Speaker 6: like next Show, throwing these big matches.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Next show, throw these big matches in. They almost run
- 18:11Speaker 2: the risk of.
- 18:14Speaker 6: Becoming what people have started to what people have criticized
- 18:18Speaker 6: AW four, just throwing together big name matches without much story.
- 18:24Speaker 6: I'm not saying that they're there yet, but with this
- 18:27Speaker 6: type of schedule, there's a risk of it. And and
- 18:32Speaker 6: if you're just throwing matches together without any real build
- 18:35Speaker 6: up or without much time in between it, without any
- 18:38Speaker 6: time for the fans to get invested, the quality is
- 18:42Speaker 6: gonna suffer. Even if the match itself is great, people
- 18:44Speaker 6: just aren't gonna give a shit because there's no investment,
- 18:48Speaker 6: there's no build, there's no story, there's no reason for
- 18:50Speaker 6: me to care.
- 18:51Speaker 2: About this outcome.
- 18:54Speaker 6: And I think some of that played into this backlash
- 18:58Speaker 6: PLA because we them we had matches that seemed to
- 19:03Speaker 6: be pretty quickly thrown together without a whole lot of
- 19:09Speaker 6: build up on them, or just kind of piggyback on
- 19:13Speaker 6: some other existing stuff. Was like, all right, you two
- 19:15Speaker 6: already don't like each other, fight again and mixing in
- 19:21Speaker 6: with others. The perfect example of that is this first
- 19:25Speaker 6: match we had on the pl Jacob fa to defending
- 19:29Speaker 6: his United States Championship that he just won the other
- 19:32Speaker 6: day against two guys, two guys who don't like each
- 19:37Speaker 6: other and Damian Prieston, Drew McIntire and the guy who
- 19:42Speaker 6: he beat for the championship La Night. Was there much
- 19:45Speaker 6: storyline build up to it? Nope, it was, Hey, you
- 19:49Speaker 6: beat that guy, defend it against him. You two motherfuckers
- 19:52Speaker 6: don't like each other. Y'all fight each other and throw it.
- 19:55Speaker 6: Get mixed in with them too as well.
- 19:58Speaker 12: I think Drew and Priest was was an attempt to
- 20:03Speaker 12: elevate the US title and Jacob would.
- 20:11Speaker 8: Right.
- 20:11Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not saying it's a completely terrible decision where
- 20:14Speaker 6: everything was just fully haphazard, but.
- 20:18Speaker 2: There wasn't also a whole lot.
- 20:20Speaker 6: Out of the build an into this because Priest and
- 20:24Speaker 6: Priest and Drew were just beefing with each other because
- 20:26Speaker 6: they just don't like each other going into WrestleMania, and
- 20:29Speaker 6: then suddenly they just walk out of that and say,
- 20:32Speaker 6: I want to be US Champion.
- 20:33Speaker 2: I want to be US Champion too. Fuck you man.
- 20:36Speaker 5: You We have two guys going into this that probably
- 20:39Speaker 5: don't need to be in this this match at all,
- 20:43Speaker 5: versus the former champion and a guy who's rise on
- 20:48Speaker 5: the top and Doyle, You're right, man, like they put
- 20:51Speaker 5: those two other guys in there just to elevate Jacob
- 20:55Speaker 5: and the title. But at the end of the way
- 20:57Speaker 5: the match ended, none of that can matter because it.
- 21:02Speaker 8: More or less broke up. It broke into two matches.
- 21:05Speaker 5: Yeah, and it didn't need to. I really think the
- 21:08Speaker 5: way it ended, I mean, should we get into it
- 21:10Speaker 5: like how it ended?
- 21:13Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean we can go there. I mean
- 21:15Speaker 6: the match itself now getting into the matches. So it
- 21:17Speaker 6: was a good match, yeah, fun, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
- 21:20Speaker 6: was a good fun match, heavy hitting, a lot of
- 21:22Speaker 6: crazy spots they went at it. It was a good
- 21:25Speaker 6: match to kick off the paper the pl which and
- 21:30Speaker 6: then obviously it gave us a shock finish after you know,
- 21:34Speaker 6: Damien Preest damn there killed Drew cracking his head off
- 21:38Speaker 6: the concrete with that South of.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Heaven outside the ring.
- 21:41Speaker 6: But yeah, we got the surprise finish with the debut
- 21:44Speaker 6: of what was that dude, Dame Jeff Cob Jeff Cobb
- 21:50Speaker 6: aka Samoan Number forty eight.
- 21:54Speaker 8: He's not.
- 21:56Speaker 6: I know, but that's how people are gonna basically view
- 21:58Speaker 6: it as like another one.
- 22:00Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a little bit that they might change his name,
- 22:05Speaker 12: but I don't know how substantial.
- 22:06Speaker 8: That is because the first they were doing the like
- 22:10Speaker 8: it was a good call them. Jeff Cobb though, right.
- 22:15Speaker 5: Past, yes, yeah, real quick here, guys, Jeff Cobb former
- 22:20Speaker 5: amateur wrestler. He signed with w W asive.
- 22:26Speaker 8: But that's very much a short styll he was.
- 22:31Speaker 12: He was an Olympian, I believe, not for America. For
- 22:35Speaker 12: some countries that I think he's Filipino, some hungry. It's
- 22:38Speaker 12: not the Philippines, and it is in the United States.
- 22:40Speaker 12: But I'm pretty sure he was an Olympic.
- 22:44Speaker 5: He's best known from his ten years in Luca Underground
- 22:47Speaker 5: in New Japan Pro Wrestling, where he was a member
- 22:50Speaker 5: of the United Empire.
- 22:54Speaker 8: They had a lot of Luca Underground folks.
- 22:58Speaker 5: Mmmm, oh yeah, you right here.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Though.
- 23:00Speaker 5: In the amateur wrestling, Cop represented Guam in the two
- 23:04Speaker 5: thousand and four where he became the national flag bearer
- 23:09Speaker 5: and opening ceremony competing in the men's light heavyweight freestyle category.
- 23:14Speaker 5: He transitioned into professional.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely got the credentials in the background that bows well.
- 23:23Speaker 12: Yeah, and I don't know if they had a breaking
- 23:25Speaker 12: damn knock on the wrong side of Fording.
- 23:29Speaker 5: He looked like a combination of Rhino and Bo Dallas.
- 23:38Speaker 5: It does right, like a heavy a heavy boat downs.
- 23:42Speaker 5: But I rolled my eyes at it, like I I
- 23:45Speaker 5: enjoyed the match, you know, I like the spot with
- 23:48Speaker 5: Drew and and we had a priest on the outside
- 23:51Speaker 5: the the how was it called that that choke slim
- 23:55Speaker 5: heat the.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Southern South of Heaven?
- 23:57Speaker 5: South of Heaven, that's what south of Heaven? Yeah, and
- 24:00Speaker 5: he takes out Drew. So these guys take each other out,
- 24:03Speaker 5: and you know that we have this whole interference with
- 24:06Speaker 5: Solo and Jeff and like I'm just like why why,
- 24:10Speaker 5: I'm like, like he does not need this help. But
- 24:16Speaker 5: the way that ended, he didn't want the help, right,
- 24:20Speaker 5: like just the way he took that, like you know,
- 24:22Speaker 5: like what the hell? You know, like I can do
- 24:24Speaker 5: this by myself. I was doing it by myself. I
- 24:26Speaker 5: didn't need you here like that look, and you know,
- 24:31Speaker 5: are we getting We discussed about maybe like the title
- 24:34Speaker 5: getting taken off him from Solo, but I mean this
- 24:38Speaker 5: news guy's gotta shine, this Jeff Copp, but like, what
- 24:41Speaker 5: what's is he going to be the guy to step
- 24:43Speaker 5: up the to take it off him, or like are
- 24:46Speaker 5: we rebuilding the bloodline three point zero or two point five?
- 24:51Speaker 5: Like what are we doing?
- 24:52Speaker 8: Why?
- 24:52Speaker 2: Why?
- 24:53Speaker 6: We Apparently they have some history together Jeff Cobbin and
- 25:00Speaker 6: uh Jacob Fatu. I think they've had matches on the indies.
- 25:04Speaker 6: Some people have kind of touched on that with the
- 25:06Speaker 6: way Fatu stared him down, you know, so maybe.
- 25:11Speaker 2: They'll play on that.
- 25:12Speaker 6: And I'm suspecting that they will probably play on the
- 25:16Speaker 6: fact that Jacob does not like Jeff cobb because of
- 25:20Speaker 6: their because they have a past, whether they mentioned it
- 25:24Speaker 6: of you know, they have a past on the indie
- 25:26Speaker 6: circuit or some other sort of k Fabes storyline pass,
- 25:30Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure they're gonna play into that in some way,
- 25:33Speaker 6: shape or form. And if nothing else, they did at
- 25:35Speaker 6: least advance this storyline with between Solo and Jacob Fatu
- 25:41Speaker 6: and their rising tension. So maybe Solo since it that,
- 25:47Speaker 6: you know, Jacob doesn't submit to him as readily as
- 25:51Speaker 6: he used to. He ain't heard I Love You Solo
- 25:54Speaker 6: in a couple of months, so maybe he's like he
- 25:58Speaker 6: sees the writing on the wall, so he just got
- 26:00Speaker 6: his new guy yeah, yeah.
- 26:02Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. I mean they definitely don't seem to be
- 26:07Speaker 8: on the same page, right.
- 26:12Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, these guys, these guys had seventeen minutes
- 26:16Speaker 5: and fifty five seconds to cook and for an opening match.
- 26:19Speaker 5: I was pretty intrigued all the way up until the finish.
- 26:24Speaker 2: You know, what the hell I didn't, I didn't mind
- 26:28Speaker 2: to finish.
- 26:29Speaker 6: I guess I'm surprised at how big of a pop
- 26:31Speaker 6: that Jeff Cobb got when he came out, because, like
- 26:35Speaker 6: I said, I saw him and I was just like, oh, okay,
- 26:37Speaker 6: random someone in number forty eight, But he got a
- 26:40Speaker 6: huge pop, and I'm like, Okay, apparently these people know
- 26:42Speaker 6: who the hell he is. Yeah, we shall see where
- 26:49Speaker 6: they go from there. Any other final thoughts on this match?
- 26:55Speaker 5: You know, I we all know that Jacob's just going
- 26:58Speaker 5: nothing but fucking but like I don't. This is where
- 27:01Speaker 5: I was talking about last episode L A. Knight. He said,
- 27:04Speaker 5: this man took the pen and now he's just gonna
- 27:07Speaker 5: flounder in the mid cards. And I think Damien and
- 27:10Speaker 5: Drew still aren't done with their ship. I think they're
- 27:12Speaker 5: gonna carry on their feud, unfortunately for a little bit longer.
- 27:18Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they got to have some sort of
- 27:20Speaker 6: gimmick match to seal it up or put the final
- 27:25Speaker 6: touch on their feud.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Hopefully they don't go ahead.
- 27:31Speaker 12: I was just gonna say, I maintained that I hate
- 27:34Speaker 12: you Sol It's gonna be the popular summer.
- 27:37Speaker 8: Dude.
- 27:37Speaker 5: I hold on to that.
- 27:38Speaker 8: Man.
- 27:38Speaker 5: If you were to place like a dollar bet five
- 27:41Speaker 5: dollars bet, that seems like a pretty good bet, you know,
- 27:46Speaker 5: I hold on to.
- 27:47Speaker 8: That team you so lo.
- 27:50Speaker 6: Yeah, but they've been they they better hurry up and
- 27:54Speaker 6: get to it then, because obviously everybody sees it there. Yeah,
- 27:58Speaker 6: like the split is pretty much all but having officially happened,
- 28:04Speaker 6: the more they drag it out, the more they gonna
- 28:06Speaker 6: lose interest, and then the less impact that moment will
- 28:08Speaker 6: finally have. And yeah, Ellie and I like I said
- 28:16Speaker 6: it a number of episodes ago. He's he's peaked and
- 28:21Speaker 6: now he's making a gradual slow decline mm hm as
- 28:28Speaker 6: of right now.
- 28:29Speaker 2: And Priest and Drew, Yeah, they'll keep going.
- 28:31Speaker 6: I just I hope they don't do the cliche thing
- 28:34Speaker 6: of all right, we gotta finish it up hell in
- 28:36Speaker 6: the cell, Like, don't do that.
- 28:39Speaker 2: I don't mind them, I.
- 28:41Speaker 12: Think they're gonna but maybe not hell La style, maybe
- 28:43Speaker 12: the last man standing or something that wouldn't surprise me.
- 28:49Speaker 6: I think I guess I'd be okay with the last
- 28:51Speaker 6: man standing. I'm okay with them having a steel cage match.
- 28:54Speaker 6: I think that would work fine. It just doesn't need
- 28:56Speaker 6: to be hell in the cell. But I'll be good
- 28:59Speaker 6: with them finishing their match in just a regular steel
- 29:02Speaker 6: cage match.
- 29:05Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, we've got.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Right.
- 29:09Speaker 8: It's gonna be a lot of opportunities.
- 29:12Speaker 6: Right, throw a dart at the board, which poe, you
- 29:14Speaker 6: want to finish this off at a right? So moving
- 29:19Speaker 6: on from that match, Next up we had Irish Civil
- 29:23Speaker 6: War between Lyra Valkyria, the women's in a Continental champion
- 29:29Speaker 6: defending against Becky Lynch.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Now, this match was good. It like that.
- 29:42Speaker 6: I don't have anything negative to say about the match
- 29:45Speaker 6: itself from a technical standpoint. My only critique is that
- 29:50Speaker 6: I don't know if this did for Lyra Valkyria what
- 29:53Speaker 6: they wanted it to do in terms of elevating her
- 29:57Speaker 6: by giving her a clean when over somebody the caliber
- 30:03Speaker 6: of Becky Lynch.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Like that match like something like that.
- 30:07Speaker 6: When you say it on paper, it should mean something
- 30:10Speaker 6: like you know, Lara Beef Larra Valkaria beat Becky Lynch clean,
- 30:15Speaker 6: that should matter, That should change how you view somebody.
- 30:18Speaker 6: But to me, I don't know if it moved the needle,
- 30:21Speaker 6: especially when Becky Lynch just beat the ship out of
- 30:23Speaker 6: her right after the match, So that that's my only I.
- 30:29Speaker 12: Think the jury, I think the jury is going to
- 30:30Speaker 12: be out on that. Uh, you know, like you know,
- 30:35Speaker 12: we've seen them do this in the past for people.
- 30:36Speaker 12: You know, when often Theory beat Tina WrestleMania, right, and
- 30:41Speaker 12: it's for successful that's like a water seed moment for them, right,
- 30:46Speaker 12: They're able to take that and run with it, right.
- 30:48Speaker 8: And now, I mean I think it remains to be
- 30:50Speaker 8: seen whether Lira can do that.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I agree with that.
- 30:57Speaker 6: There's still she can still make it have the impact
- 31:00Speaker 6: that it's supposed to.
- 31:03Speaker 12: Yes, And and we haven't really had a chance because
- 31:05Speaker 12: admit may or may not have broken her nose or something.
- 31:09Speaker 8: Uh, the end of that match was kind of clunky.
- 31:11Speaker 12: But other than that for me, and I mean, I
- 31:15Speaker 12: hate to toot my own horn, but to too, I
- 31:19Speaker 12: said it would be the match of the night, and
- 31:20Speaker 12: for me it was with the exception of that kind
- 31:23Speaker 12: of clunky finish uh and Becky like very obviously calling
- 31:29Speaker 12: a lot of spots.
- 31:31Speaker 8: But other than the accident, I thought was very good. Yeah.
- 31:36Speaker 12: I continue to think Lyra uh it's going to be
- 31:39Speaker 12: a superstar of the future along with Tiffany there.
- 31:43Speaker 8: I think they're the night But that mean, but then
- 31:44Speaker 8: you get all these NFC girls about to come up. Uh.
- 31:47Speaker 12: So the whole landscape may may change for the better
- 31:52Speaker 12: any day now, But for me, it gave Lyra uh,
- 32:00Speaker 12: you know, a big win against the future Hall of Famer.
- 32:03Speaker 12: And what you can do with it is what you know,
- 32:08Speaker 12: remains to be seen.
- 32:10Speaker 8: She's been given the she's given the keys to the car.
- 32:13Speaker 8: Can she how to drive it? Right? Right?
- 32:17Speaker 2: True? True?
- 32:17Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, though, Doll in this few
- 32:21Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure we both think that we both agree
- 32:23Speaker 6: that this view is not over right.
- 32:26Speaker 14: No, yeah, yeah, they might be kind of forever opponents.
- 32:32Speaker 14: I'm surprised Becky wasn't going after.
- 32:35Speaker 12: Lives her comeback to you because because that because Live
- 32:40Speaker 12: walked around saying about how she retired Becky Lynch.
- 32:42Speaker 8: I thought that was a natural. Uh.
- 32:45Speaker 15: I guess they wanted to turn Becky heel this is
- 32:47Speaker 15: the way to do it. Yeah, it makes no sense
- 32:51Speaker 15: if it's lived. But I think Bailey probably coming back
- 32:55Speaker 15: the few with Becky maybe maybe a thing.
- 32:59Speaker 6: So you think that feud, so you think that the
- 33:01Speaker 6: Becky Lyra thing might be over in the immediate future.
- 33:03Speaker 6: You don't think that they're gonna Becky's not gonna still
- 33:06Speaker 6: come after her, or Lyra might not try to get
- 33:09Speaker 6: her locked back after that.
- 33:12Speaker 8: It's certainly possibility. I would not. I'm not taking that
- 33:16Speaker 8: out the table.
- 33:19Speaker 6: The only reason why I bring that up is because
- 33:20Speaker 6: I don't for me personally, I don't think that they're
- 33:23Speaker 6: necessarily done, that this this feud is done yet. I
- 33:27Speaker 6: think Becky still is going to be pursuing Lyra for
- 33:31Speaker 6: that Intercontinental championship, and I think at some point Becky
- 33:36Speaker 6: is probably going to take it off of her. And
- 33:39Speaker 6: if that is the case in all caps, If if
- 33:43Speaker 6: that is the case, then I don't know if this
- 33:48Speaker 6: again back to my point of elevating Lyra, I don't
- 33:52Speaker 6: know if that happens, if this feud culminates in her
- 33:57Speaker 6: losing that Intercontinental championship to Becky lynch.
- 34:02Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
- 34:04Speaker 6: I think the I think what really the one thing
- 34:06Speaker 6: that would elevate the only way she elevates from this
- 34:09Speaker 6: feud is she has to be the one to come
- 34:11Speaker 6: out on top definitively, and maybe Becky might be the
- 34:17Speaker 6: one to you know, challenge for that title multiple times
- 34:21Speaker 6: and lose every single time.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Maybe that will happen. It's a case of I believe
- 34:28Speaker 2: that when I see.
- 34:28Speaker 8: It, m hm, I am liking.
- 34:33Speaker 12: I will say that, yeah, promos, she's done something very
- 34:38Speaker 12: similar to Stana but much better in my opinion.
- 34:42Speaker 6: And that promo she cut this past Monday, all raw
- 34:44Speaker 6: was was a good one. She's leaning into the quote,
- 34:48Speaker 6: Becky Hogan, you know label she's being been hit, and.
- 34:54Speaker 12: That's always been the way of pro wrestling, right like
- 34:57Speaker 12: the things that that have a have uh a tinge
- 35:02Speaker 12: of reality worked about usually right right.
- 35:07Speaker 6: And she's almost kind of taken what I had pitched,
- 35:10Speaker 6: the uh storyline I had picked pitched for Bianca, in
- 35:16Speaker 6: the sense of, oh, this is how y'all see me.
- 35:19Speaker 6: I bet I'm gonna get y'all exactly what y'all want.
- 35:22Speaker 6: Not saying that Becky that Bianca can't still do it,
- 35:25Speaker 6: I still think she very much can and probably doing
- 35:27Speaker 6: it in even more aggressive way than what Becky's doing.
- 35:30Speaker 6: But I picked up on that in the feud or
- 35:34Speaker 6: in Becky's promo Monday, Where are you at on this match?
- 35:38Speaker 2: Wayne?
- 35:39Speaker 4: You know.
- 35:41Speaker 5: Valkyrie Valkyria. Sorry, she's on her way out, man, like
- 35:47Speaker 5: this girl beat Bailly won two titles at WrestleMania. Next feud.
- 35:52Speaker 5: After Bailly, we're talking at one of the original four
- 35:55Speaker 5: horsewomen that she's taking out, Becky Lynch. I feel like
- 36:00Speaker 5: Bailey comes back. You know, obviously Bailey is gonna be
- 36:03Speaker 5: a face, right Becky still heal. Bailey and Becky aren't
- 36:06Speaker 5: gonna get along. They both I think we're gonna get
- 36:10Speaker 5: a triple threat of some kind. I think I think
- 36:12Speaker 5: Valkyria is gonna have both of them on her tail
- 36:15Speaker 5: and I just say, on her feathers, on her wingtips.
- 36:19Speaker 5: She's gonna have both of them chop at her to
- 36:21Speaker 5: get this title, and she's gonna overcome both of them,
- 36:25Speaker 5: uh not just beat them in singles matches, whether it's
- 36:29Speaker 5: a roll up or however, she's gonna put them away.
- 36:33Speaker 5: But I think they're gonna try to stack the odds
- 36:35Speaker 5: against her even more. Uh, I mean, I really did not.
- 36:40Speaker 5: I mean I've been proven wrong time and time again
- 36:44Speaker 5: with this girl because I'm like, yeah, there's no way
- 36:46Speaker 5: they're putting two titles on her. What did they fucking
- 36:49Speaker 5: do they put two titles on her? You know, I'm like,
- 36:52Speaker 5: no way, Becky's gonna totally wipe the floor there, and no,
- 36:56Speaker 5: that's not what happened. Uh So, I wouldn't be surprised
- 36:59Speaker 5: if they try to stack the odds in her favor
- 37:03Speaker 5: or against her. You know, with Bailey coming back, you know,
- 37:07Speaker 5: I have unfinished business with her, and Becky obviously has
- 37:11Speaker 5: unfinished business with her. And I mean what happens when
- 37:15Speaker 5: the two girls who are always you know, grants, you know,
- 37:20Speaker 5: the Grand Slam champions, what if they aren't no more?
- 37:22Speaker 5: What if they just can't grasp that high seat title
- 37:25Speaker 5: right now? And you know that kind of elevates it
- 37:28Speaker 5: and elevates her. I mean, the way this match was
- 37:31Speaker 5: structured and past it allow them both to showcase you know,
- 37:36Speaker 5: good wrestling ability and a story in the ring. You know,
- 37:41Speaker 5: we've seen some bloody elbows and what some people thought
- 37:46Speaker 5: looked like vomit in in in her hair. I think
- 37:51Speaker 5: it was like, yeah, part of her feathers or something
- 37:54Speaker 5: like that.
- 37:56Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Oh my god.
- 37:59Speaker 2: I that threw me off because because that's why I.
- 38:04Speaker 5: Sit closer to the TV. I was like, it looks
- 38:06Speaker 5: like vomit or something in her hair, Like I think
- 38:08Speaker 5: it's like glittering and crap.
- 38:13Speaker 8: Did you come in late? You were like, what the yeah?
- 38:17Speaker 6: I was about to say yeah, because I came in
- 38:19Speaker 6: late during the match because I watched the US title
- 38:22Speaker 6: match while I was at the gym on the treadmill.
- 38:24Speaker 2: As soon as that match ended, I left the.
- 38:26Speaker 6: Gym, came home, and I came put it on like
- 38:29Speaker 6: somewhere in the middle of this match, and I just
- 38:31Speaker 6: see this stuff in his hair. I'm like, Yo, why
- 38:33Speaker 6: the fuck all that dan drift in her hair?
- 38:36Speaker 2: Like what the ring?
- 38:38Speaker 5: And I feel like Becky mentioned it on Raw like
- 38:42Speaker 5: about her having looked like puke in her hair or something.
- 38:48Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 5: I tried not to laugh when she comes out with
- 38:50Speaker 5: the whole bird wings. I just think that the guys,
- 38:52Speaker 5: it's always sunny. I can't help it. You can change
- 38:56Speaker 5: the color of it. But that's what I'm gonna think
- 38:57Speaker 5: of you away. I think it's funny. Becky Lynch mocked
- 39:03Speaker 5: curious fiance. This uh is Irish wrestler who's sitting in
- 39:08Speaker 5: the front.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Row mocked that motherfucker.
- 39:13Speaker 8: Like a big deal.
- 39:15Speaker 6: You go, you know, you see guys everybody.
- 39:20Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, uh but yeah, apparently she was holding
- 39:29Speaker 5: her nose after the match. Michael Cole said it might
- 39:31Speaker 5: have been broken, but I don't know if there's any
- 39:33Speaker 5: truth to that.
- 39:36Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't heard. The dirts have been very quiet
- 39:39Speaker 8: about that. Yeah.
- 39:40Speaker 6: Yeah, and I mean that finished damsel didn't look clean
- 39:43Speaker 6: because that's not a natural roll up that you see
- 39:46Speaker 6: and where you're holding somebody by one hand with one
- 39:50Speaker 6: arm and got your face your other hands on your
- 39:53Speaker 6: face to your nose, like right, look very clear and
- 39:57Speaker 6: obvious that something was wrong or something is damaged, hurt
- 40:01Speaker 6: affecting her or something.
- 40:03Speaker 8: Yeah, that miss was clunky, but other than that, that's
- 40:07Speaker 8: the matches great.
- 40:08Speaker 6: Yeah, other than that, the match was solid, and yet
- 40:11Speaker 6: once again she wins another match without her finisher, Like
- 40:19Speaker 6: at some point, either either she needs to get a
- 40:22Speaker 6: new finisher that actually works, or she needs to start
- 40:26Speaker 6: winning these.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Damn matches with her finisher.
- 40:28Speaker 6: And I think that's another thing that at least for me,
- 40:30Speaker 6: it's kind of affecting how much the needle moves for
- 40:34Speaker 6: me with her.
- 40:35Speaker 5: It's because it seems like when just getting.
- 40:39Speaker 6: Exactly when you when you keep getting these wins, it's
- 40:42Speaker 6: like you're not definits. You're getting the win, but you're
- 40:46Speaker 6: not beating these people. It's like you're just you're finding
- 40:49Speaker 6: a way to get by. You're finding a way to survive,
- 40:53Speaker 6: as opposed to saying like, nah, motherfucker, here's my finisher
- 40:56Speaker 6: boom down one, two three, I beat you.
- 41:00Speaker 5: Well, then we shouldn't talk about too much. It's got
- 41:02Speaker 5: dirty dom then, huh.
- 41:04Speaker 8: I.
- 41:06Speaker 6: See he's a He's a heel though, so it it
- 41:09Speaker 6: kind of works more with heels because he'lls have the
- 41:12Speaker 6: whole by hook or by crook mentality.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Yep.
- 41:16Speaker 6: And it's not too often that you see a if
- 41:19Speaker 6: you think about it, not too often you see a
- 41:21Speaker 6: heel just definitively hit my finisher pin you clean win
- 41:26Speaker 6: over somebody. There's almost always some sort of shenanigans or
- 41:30Speaker 6: fuckery involved in a heel win, but usually the babyface
- 41:37Speaker 6: when they win. It's supposed to be clean and clear
- 41:41Speaker 6: and definitive.
- 41:42Speaker 8: Yeah. And plus gom's not just a heel, he's like
- 41:44Speaker 8: a chicken stead heel.
- 41:46Speaker 5: Yeah, right, don't get me wrong. I do like heels
- 41:53Speaker 5: though that that put away people clean, just like a
- 41:56Speaker 5: clean like you know Gunter was doing that, was just
- 42:00Speaker 5: putting away guys clean as a heel without any tactics.
- 42:04Speaker 5: Mark Henry when he was doing the World's Strongest Man gimmick,
- 42:08Speaker 5: you know, like the House of Pain, he was just
- 42:11Speaker 5: coming out every week putting motherfuckers down without any help,
- 42:15Speaker 5: just clean putting them down. Russive when Russive for a
- 42:20Speaker 5: while was getting pushed when he was undefeated for a
- 42:22Speaker 5: while as a heel.
- 42:24Speaker 6: But yeah, monster, Yeah it works for those when when
- 42:32Speaker 6: that's their character, you know, likes dominant. Yeah, being that
- 42:37Speaker 6: dominant heel monster character, then yeah, you you expect for
- 42:41Speaker 6: them to beat people clean.
- 42:43Speaker 5: Right. So, like with what you guys are saying, like
- 42:45Speaker 5: how you know she really hasn't done many clean winds,
- 42:50Speaker 5: especially over Bailey and Becky, like this could lead to
- 42:54Speaker 5: a triple threat.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Well, she's gotten clean winds.
- 42:59Speaker 6: All her wins have been mean, they haven't involved any
- 43:01Speaker 6: kind of shenanigans, a fuckery. It's just that there's no
- 43:05Speaker 6: it's not definitive. It's not like a finisher that she
- 43:07Speaker 6: hits on people. It's like she'd be in the middle
- 43:09Speaker 6: of getting her ass whooped and then she'll just sneak
- 43:12Speaker 6: a roll up out of somewhere and get a three.
- 43:14Speaker 5: Yeah. I think her finish is called the night wing.
- 43:17Speaker 8: Right, You're right.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Sounds sounds and sounds right, all right, I think.
- 43:26Speaker 5: Chicken wing, but that's cross faced chicken wing. But that's
- 43:28Speaker 5: my opinion, Okay.
- 43:33Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean everything she has everything going for us,
- 43:38Speaker 6: like everything about her to like, and I get, I
- 43:42Speaker 6: get why is why people gravitate to her and why
- 43:46Speaker 6: people like her Just for me personally, It's just it
- 43:50Speaker 6: hasn't fully curled over for me yet.
- 43:54Speaker 8: I like her. She does have some work got tight
- 44:00Speaker 8: of the ring to do, although I did take her promo.
- 44:03Speaker 12: And to go home ros pretty good, and her back
- 44:07Speaker 12: it's pretty good.
- 44:13Speaker 6: Every time I see her outside of a wrestling match,
- 44:16Speaker 6: I like her.
- 44:20Speaker 2: It's just the rest.
- 44:21Speaker 6: It's just the matches themselves that aren't winning me over again.
- 44:25Speaker 6: And it's not for lack of ability. It's not for
- 44:29Speaker 6: lack of ability she showcases in the matches.
- 44:31Speaker 8: She just mmm.
- 44:34Speaker 6: She hasn't put her her stamp really on anything for
- 44:38Speaker 6: me yet. It's like it's like things are happening and
- 44:44Speaker 6: she's winning. But it'll it'll get there, I'm sure will
- 44:48Speaker 6: at some point. Anyhow, next match, the Intercott for the
- 44:58Speaker 6: Men's Intercontinental Championship thirty Dominate Mysterio defending against Penta, the
- 45:07Speaker 6: match that I thought that I thought was going to
- 45:10Speaker 6: be the match of the night and the match that
- 45:13Speaker 6: could have been potentially the match of the night until
- 45:19Speaker 6: we got that fuck ass finish. Everything about this match
- 45:28Speaker 6: was great and they ruined it with that bullshit ass finish.
- 45:34Speaker 6: They just had to put El Grande Americano in this
- 45:38Speaker 6: motherfucker just had to shoehorn this motherfucker in here.
- 45:43Speaker 5: Wait, you're saying that's the worst part of this match.
- 45:46Speaker 3: Oh my goodness for me, Okay, go ahead for me.
- 45:52Speaker 2: I hated that to me. That killed it.
- 45:54Speaker 6: Like Judgment, they showing up is to be expected. Again,
- 45:59Speaker 6: that's consistent with dom It's consistent with Judgment day.
- 46:03Speaker 2: That's to be expected, right right, But.
- 46:07Speaker 6: After they were kicked out and they were sent to
- 46:10Speaker 6: the back. One you're kicked out, you're sent to the back.
- 46:14Speaker 6: But somehow finn Bala still keeps just hops back up
- 46:17Speaker 6: on the fucking rope and just keeps arguing, like the
- 46:21Speaker 6: fuck and then Grinde comes up there with that little
- 46:25Speaker 6: dumb ass head. But yeah, that ruined the match for
- 46:28Speaker 6: me because before that, I mean, things have gone away.
- 46:31Speaker 6: I was expecting. We saw moves from Dominic Monstereira that
- 46:35Speaker 6: we had never seen before. He got to show off
- 46:38Speaker 6: more of his repertoire. He and Pens to have really
- 46:41Speaker 6: good chemistry in the wing. You can see them cooking. Like,
- 46:45Speaker 6: I was really impressed with what I was seeing from
- 46:47Speaker 6: dom and.
- 46:49Speaker 8: Don really hasn't had a lot of chances to shine.
- 46:52Speaker 12: He seems to usually be in tag matches or he's
- 46:55Speaker 12: just part of the fuckery or whatever.
- 46:57Speaker 8: Like I feel like he hasn't gotten nearly enough run.
- 47:01Speaker 2: He has little bit.
- 47:04Speaker 6: Small, especially in this high profile of a situation that
- 47:09Speaker 6: didn't involve his dad. Mhm, he really got the showcase here,
- 47:16Speaker 6: And yeah, I really hated that fucking finish.
- 47:21Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 47:21Speaker 5: I think I think work with Penta force him to
- 47:23Speaker 5: dig deep and really bring out his best, which let
- 47:26Speaker 5: him you know, maybe I have some of his better
- 47:29Speaker 5: end ring.
- 47:30Speaker 6: Work, and I think he's He's touched on that and
- 47:34Speaker 6: in interviews before too. I think somebody asked him in
- 47:38Speaker 6: some recent interview why he doesn't do more, and he's like,
- 47:40Speaker 6: and he under he made a logical argument for it.
- 47:43Speaker 6: He's like, if I do a moon, if I do
- 47:46Speaker 6: a moon salt or something in every single match, that
- 47:49Speaker 6: moon salt doesn't mean anything.
- 47:51Speaker 2: But if I do it once.
- 47:53Speaker 6: In a blue moon, then when you see me do it,
- 47:56Speaker 6: it's like, oh ship he did that.
- 47:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that makes total sense.
- 48:02Speaker 5: Kurd Angle used to do it. Remember when Kerdan Angle
- 48:04Speaker 5: used to do moon salts. It wasn't every fucking match,
- 48:08Speaker 5: but when he did it, it was like, what's gonna go
- 48:10Speaker 5: to the top rope?
- 48:11Speaker 2: Right, especially because he had yeah and missed.
- 48:19Speaker 5: Yes, there's a fan. I just saw that fan said
- 48:25Speaker 5: Razor Ramone had a toothpick that was harder than you.
- 48:31Speaker 5: I was just wanted the fans signs. You see. Dom's
- 48:34Speaker 5: outfit was a nonsense psychosis. Yeah yeah.
- 48:42Speaker 8: He often has references stuff.
- 48:46Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I say his entire outfit I've seen somewhere
- 48:49Speaker 6: somebody broke it down, Like elements of his entire outfit
- 48:52Speaker 6: are notched to different famous Luta.
- 48:55Speaker 5: Doors and I I mean there was a all of
- 49:00Speaker 5: a suicide dive into what uh a d d t
- 49:03Speaker 5: on the outside of the ring, which I thought was
- 49:05Speaker 5: pretty cool.
- 49:07Speaker 8: There was another yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 49:09Speaker 5: There was a Pensa jumped up over the reft, clear
- 49:13Speaker 5: like didn't touch the reft and touch the ropes. He
- 49:15Speaker 5: cleared that. I was just like impressed because you know,
- 49:18Speaker 5: he's a little bit older guy, but like a lot
- 49:22Speaker 5: of this stuff from Penta for me is new. So
- 49:26Speaker 5: I I enjoyed it, Like I really like this match.
- 49:29Speaker 5: I think, Uh, it's also nice seeing Dom Wressel another
- 49:34Speaker 5: another person his size that has the same style roughly
- 49:38Speaker 5: because uh, you know, if he's he's wrestling like the.
- 49:41Speaker 2: L w O.
- 49:42Speaker 5: All those guys I feel like are just a lot shorter,
- 49:44Speaker 5: a lot smaller, or he's you know, like you said,
- 49:47Speaker 5: he's in a tag match or something. But like, yeah,
- 49:50Speaker 5: I mean this IC title is really gonna show him.
- 49:53Speaker 5: Dom has the ability to fucking cook when you let him.
- 49:56Speaker 8: You know, yeah, pretty clearly have been plans for him.
- 50:01Speaker 5: Right and you know, nine minutes and twenty seconds, But
- 50:05Speaker 5: the rest was all tom foolery. Like it was just
- 50:07Speaker 5: I was enjoying the match all the way up till
- 50:10Speaker 5: the point when we had you know, judgment Day come out,
- 50:13Speaker 5: and then you know El Grande and Medicana, which first
- 50:17Speaker 5: off I popped. Secondly, it was so unnecessary because you
- 50:22Speaker 5: already had like how many other people out there, like
- 50:24Speaker 5: pen does never getting that icy title. And and if
- 50:28Speaker 5: this continues, like Dom's gonna hold onto this title for
- 50:30Speaker 5: quite some time until I guess Finn Balor takes it
- 50:35Speaker 5: off of him, because that's who I'm predicting who takes
- 50:38Speaker 5: the icy title off of them.
- 50:40Speaker 15: But you know, I'm done making predictions about what is
- 50:43Speaker 15: is gonna happen with the Judgment Day because every time.
- 50:47Speaker 8: I do, every time I got this is the end
- 50:49Speaker 8: of them. And then every weekday, every.
- 50:55Speaker 2: Time they are, they're going to be w w's Bullet Club.
- 50:59Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody in and out of Judgment Day at some point.
- 51:05Speaker 16: Well, speaking of Finn, the fast couple of ras uh, yeah,
- 51:10Speaker 16: they kind of gotten away from it now there back
- 51:12Speaker 16: to it where they remember for a while he would
- 51:15Speaker 16: you know, somebody's walking.
- 51:16Speaker 12: In the hallway and down the other end of the
- 51:19Speaker 12: hallway and and I was talking to.
- 51:21Speaker 8: So and so. Uh, you know that's where the Live
- 51:25Speaker 8: and Dom stuff started.
- 51:27Speaker 12: You miss it stuff has been in the background and
- 51:31Speaker 12: talking to rock fan Perez the past couple of ras,
- 51:36Speaker 12: so there might be something to keep an eye on.
- 51:41Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I saw that post it too.
- 51:44Speaker 6: I don't know if she needs Judgment Day, but it
- 51:49Speaker 6: couldn't hurt, especially if live or and or Dom may
- 51:56Speaker 6: possibly be on their way out at some point. Then
- 52:01Speaker 6: you know, Judgment Day can't just be a go back
- 52:03Speaker 6: to being a whole sausage fest.
- 52:07Speaker 2: They'll need some some other woman in.
- 52:09Speaker 6: The group, which I think they definitely need, because I mean,
- 52:15Speaker 6: Judgment Day is really the well l w O two say,
- 52:21Speaker 6: Judgment Day is like one of the only factions that
- 52:24Speaker 6: has men and women in it, And is.
- 52:28Speaker 2: It all one or the other? Alpha Academy, Oh yeah, yeah.
- 52:34Speaker 6: Do you consider are they even a faction anymore?
- 52:37Speaker 2: They're more like a click Yeah.
- 52:39Speaker 12: I think there's a sad gable factions as Ivy Nile.
- 52:44Speaker 2: True True, American American Maid.
- 52:47Speaker 8: American Maid.
- 52:48Speaker 12: I always want to say American Alpha, but that was
- 52:50Speaker 12: that was Gable and uh the kid that got hurt.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Jordan Jason Jordan's I was going to say American male.
- 53:01Speaker 8: American male, American male.
- 53:06Speaker 6: That just goes to show there's too many groups or
- 53:08Speaker 6: factions or tag teams with American at the name of
- 53:10Speaker 6: the title, right, Yeah, Well.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on this match before we get to
- 53:20Speaker 2: the main event.
- 53:22Speaker 8: Oh, we saw I have won more match before the
- 53:24Speaker 8: main event.
- 53:25Speaker 6: I said what I said, Dot, We'll move on to
- 53:33Speaker 6: the to the match that everybody wanted to see. Gunter
- 53:38Speaker 6: versus Pat McAfee for no other fucking reason than fuck
- 53:45Speaker 6: if I know.
- 53:46Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, what the fuck was the point of this, dude?
- 53:50Speaker 5: I was saying the same thing, like.
- 53:53Speaker 8: Like, and why did granted.
- 53:56Speaker 12: Guns As basically shrugged off all McAfee his offense and
- 54:00Speaker 12: feed him fairly easily.
- 54:02Speaker 8: But why didnacafee get so much offense in at all?
- 54:05Speaker 14: I just it makes this guy was just the world
- 54:08Speaker 14: champion and the one guy and the other guy sits
- 54:11Speaker 14: at the gask and black like.
- 54:13Speaker 8: There's no universe where he should be in even sort
- 54:16Speaker 8: of competitive.
- 54:18Speaker 2: I know where we were supposed to get that many comebacks.
- 54:21Speaker 14: Yeah, well it didn't surprise me. Did a little bit
- 54:24Speaker 14: of offense and that that makes sense to me. But
- 54:26Speaker 14: it's just kept coming and kept coming and kept like.
- 54:29Speaker 8: What like why was it so long? Like?
- 54:32Speaker 5: Yeah, Docinate versus Penta for the Icy Title nine minutes,
- 54:35Speaker 5: twenty seconds. Counter versus Pat McAfee for Ships to Giggles
- 54:39Speaker 5: fourteen minutes.
- 54:41Speaker 2: Right, those numbers should have been flipped.
- 54:44Speaker 17: Yeah, watching there, like, well, this show couldn't get any worse.
- 54:52Speaker 8: Uh that's uh, I'll talking about that pack. Yeah, I
- 54:57Speaker 8: just it baffles my.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Mind, Like, but what.
- 55:04Speaker 8: Was the point? Yeah, you know, and I think I
- 55:07Speaker 8: think we all thought Goldberg, but.
- 55:09Speaker 12: We found somebody was gonna come and save McAfee, set
- 55:12Speaker 12: up something else for gun Through, right, and I'm just never.
- 55:15Speaker 8: Like, okay, any second now, any second now, anything, nothing
- 55:23Speaker 8: we're going to.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Any any second now, this is gonna happen.
- 55:28Speaker 8: Nope.
- 55:28Speaker 2: Instead, Pat McAfee come back number twelve.
- 55:31Speaker 5: So I'm thinking after this match, I'm thinking, Okay, they're
- 55:35Speaker 5: gonna rte Pat McAfee off of TV for a while, Right,
- 55:38Speaker 5: he's gonna go do something contracts, I don't know whatever
- 55:41Speaker 5: it is. Right, No, fucking Pat McAfee comes back then
- 55:44Speaker 5: next time on Raw. But he shows up late, like
- 55:47Speaker 5: you know, just strolls out.
- 55:49Speaker 6: Show before we even get to that though, before we
- 55:53Speaker 6: even get to that, after the match itself, the piece
- 55:56Speaker 6: to resistance of this fucking match. When he wins, does
- 56:01Speaker 6: Gunther like you attack him walk off this ground old
- 56:05Speaker 6: or piste off. No, he looks at this motherfucker and
- 56:08Speaker 6: nods his head, gives him respect.
- 56:14Speaker 2: Fucking shitn't me.
- 56:18Speaker 6: This little fucking pencil dick motherfucker gets your respect because
- 56:22Speaker 6: he just wore an ass whipping and attempted to come
- 56:25Speaker 6: back eight nine times.
- 56:27Speaker 2: Are you shitting me?
- 56:30Speaker 6: That really pissed me off. He just looked at him
- 56:33Speaker 6: and was like it gives a little hand gesture or whatever,
- 56:36Speaker 6: like no, no.
- 56:37Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no no.
- 56:39Speaker 5: He didn't shake his hands like like a bowels.
- 56:42Speaker 6: No, no, he's not a handshake, but his little hand
- 56:44Speaker 6: gesture right right, like no, that like when I saw
- 56:50Speaker 6: him go back up to him, like yo, he about
- 56:52Speaker 6: the fucking donkey, kicked the shit out of macle cole
- 56:55Speaker 6: and fuck Pat backerfee up.
- 56:57Speaker 5: It's funny if you watch the match early right, look
- 57:00Speaker 5: at Pat McAfee, like the color of his skin, and
- 57:02Speaker 5: then look at the color his skin at the end
- 57:04Speaker 5: of the match. It's like bright red. He had like
- 57:07Speaker 5: bad sunburn or something, right, but no, Gunster just beat
- 57:10Speaker 5: him up that bad all over. Yeah, man, Like I
- 57:14Speaker 5: I was kind of like over this match at the
- 57:17Speaker 5: point when he put him in the sleeper, and then
- 57:21Speaker 5: he got out of the sleeper and he started hulking up,
- 57:23Speaker 5: and I was just like, yeah, man, this is.
- 57:25Speaker 17: What puts you know, people sunk their caps in eight
- 57:29Speaker 17: seconds pretty weeks to go out, right.
- 57:32Speaker 6: Yeahow, Pat McAfee got a second and third win. Right,
- 57:41Speaker 6: What type of secret sauce is in that fucking j
- 57:45Speaker 6: uso sleeper?
- 57:47Speaker 8: Right?
- 57:48Speaker 6: Apparently that's the deadliest moving, fucking wrestling. Michael Cole had
- 57:57Speaker 6: no business going as long as it did. Pat McAfee
- 58:01Speaker 6: had no business with as many comebacks as he had,
- 58:05Speaker 6: and Gunster had no business showing this motherfucker respect.
- 58:09Speaker 12: Afterwards, everything about if I had to do this, why
- 58:15Speaker 12: wasn't it gone wrong?
- 58:17Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 58:17Speaker 2: Right, this could have been all wrong. This could have
- 58:19Speaker 2: been on Saturday Night main event, Yeah, okay, and.
- 58:23Speaker 8: That would have been fine also, sure.
- 58:26Speaker 2: But yeah, this was just a complete waste, a total
- 58:33Speaker 2: and complete waste.
- 58:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 58:37Speaker 5: It doesn't do anything for Pat McAfee, didn't do anything
- 58:39Speaker 5: for Michael Cole, you know, nothing for anybody.
- 58:45Speaker 6: Gunter's time, just a complete waste of Gunter's time and talent.
- 58:54Speaker 8: Fuck.
- 58:55Speaker 5: I would rather have not come back at all and
- 58:58Speaker 5: just been away for a while because you miss some
- 59:01Speaker 5: more when they're away.
- 59:01Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's true, But I agree that they
- 59:05Speaker 8: do need to find him something to do.
- 59:07Speaker 12: It doesn't involve a title, uh, just because he can't
- 59:11Speaker 12: always constantly be in the title texture and.
- 59:14Speaker 8: He basically has been an entire time in the company.
- 59:17Speaker 12: If it's not the world title a title, So I
- 59:20Speaker 12: have no problem with them giving him something else to do.
- 59:23Speaker 8: But it's like, why, yes, if it's not gonna lead
- 59:26Speaker 8: to somebody coming back or something.
- 59:29Speaker 11: Like what.
- 59:31Speaker 8: Well, and then why do they plant that Goldberg seed? However,
- 59:35Speaker 8: many months ago that was m I just it's none
- 59:38Speaker 8: of the best.
- 59:40Speaker 6: Yeah, But now the rumor is that, oh, well, we're
- 59:45Speaker 6: about to get go through versus jay Uso rematch and
- 59:48Speaker 6: then that match is gonna be where they plant the
- 59:51Speaker 6: seed for go to versus Goldberg. So you mean to
- 59:54Speaker 6: tell me that after wasting hours and going through time
- 59:58Speaker 6: with this bullshit ass match with Pat McAfee and not
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: giving us the Goldberg, then Teas, then.
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: Excuse me.
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: Instead, you're gonna wait until we have a meaningful world
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: title match with your champion, who you need to continue
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: to get over and legitimize as champion, and you're instead
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: going to have him retain his title by the via
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: the help of a sixty year old man.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: That's what.
- 1:00:35Speaker 6: That's how he's going to keep his title against a
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: guy that he just tapped out at WrestleMania.
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: That's how Eddie Guerrero got the title. Goldberg Sanatigans.
- 1:00:50Speaker 6: Yeah, but we cared about that, and nobody realistically, nobody
- 1:00:55Speaker 6: even remembers that Goldberg interfeared in that fucking matches.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: Apparently, and all that extra fucking attention and ship.
- 1:01:06Speaker 6: So the rest of us, you know, how that match happened,
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: went for the eighth Brock dosn't, went for the f five,
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: Eddie Girrell countered into a DDT on the title, went
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: up top frog splash one two three. That's how it
- 1:01:18Speaker 6: happened in everybody else's mind. But no, somebody want to
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: hold on to Goldberg.
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: Ye on, Bill Goldberg, Right, catch your idol, that's on
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: your mount rushmore professional wrestlers.
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: We done dunking on this match.
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: I was talking on a different match.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the main event. Oh what a.
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: Pile of Shita defending the w W Championship against Randy
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: Orton for one last time. We got twenty seven minutes
- 1:02:06Speaker 6: at fifty seconds of a guy car he got it
- 1:02:15Speaker 6: like that no more? Or is playing it extremely safe?
- 1:02:20Speaker 8: Like I said, it's probably a little bit of both.
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: Yeah, probably a little bit of both, I think to
- 1:02:26Speaker 6: a certain extent. See, it has lost a bit of
- 1:02:28Speaker 6: a step. You know, he's worse than wrestling more now
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: than he has in the last couple of years. But
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: also he has his Hollywood obligations that he obviously needs
- 1:02:39Speaker 6: to remain healthy for.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: So what does that lead to RKO and AA fest.
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: Three rep bumps.
- 1:02:51Speaker 18: Damnon finishers, Like I guess, and I guess the five
- 1:02:55Speaker 18: moves of Doom's been replaced by the three moves of Doom,
- 1:02:59Speaker 18: which are rep bump nutshot, belt shot that I knew.
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: Like you see, it should have won. If they're gonna
- 1:03:06Speaker 8: do this for Cocta Senior hill turn Ship, he should
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: have won. He should have done it dirty. But they're
- 1:03:11Speaker 8: gonna come up with different ways for him to be dirty.
- 1:03:14Speaker 8: And like what three fucking red buons are you serious?
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Oh?
- 1:03:21Speaker 12: I mean, like they got a twenty year few like this,
- 1:03:24Speaker 12: you know, hyping up until last time or whatever, Like,
- 1:03:27Speaker 12: don't it deserved so much more.
- 1:03:30Speaker 8: Than this was?
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: Like this legendary fude, it deserved more of a build
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: up it deserved.
- 1:03:42Speaker 12: If it felt this felt very like twenty ten Pigi
- 1:03:46Speaker 12: era Vince Booking. Like, I mean, you can say it
- 1:03:52Speaker 12: is one of the greatest of all time, and it's
- 1:03:54Speaker 12: hard to say he isn't. Uh, he's a fucking phenomenal person.
- 1:03:58Speaker 8: I think we know that. But like he's also like
- 1:04:02Speaker 8: with the key Player and like the era of w
- 1:04:06Speaker 8: w E that most people like the least, if you're
- 1:04:09Speaker 8: looking back and ranking the eras or whatever, right, like
- 1:04:12Speaker 8: I think most people PG era at the bottom, and
- 1:04:15Speaker 8: who was all over the PG era John Cena.
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: If you think about if you ranked the WWE titles,
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: the one that people seem to like the least that
- 1:04:27Speaker 6: overly blinked out one yeah, where they couldn't even put
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: champion on it, they just said champ.
- 1:04:35Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. I mean, you know, or it's seen are
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: very different than they you know, then their matches were
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: ten years ago, so they paced themselves, but they built
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: up to like bigger moments and they tried to pack
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: in as much as they could with time they had
- 1:04:49Speaker 5: to work with, and they filled it wisely. I mean,
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: I did think it went on pretty long, a lot
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: longer than I thought it was going to because when
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: it started, I was like, holy shit, we're gonna be
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: getting done this pay per view a lot earlier than before,
- 1:05:03Speaker 5: which also, by the way, because it was in Saint Louis,
- 1:05:06Speaker 5: the pay per view was done earlier than planned because
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: I when it was over, it was like, I feel
- 1:05:12Speaker 5: it was like, was it ten o'clock or something, It's.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Pretty early still, it was like ten thirty or something
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: like that.
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: It just felt so early. I mean, I still think
- 1:05:22Speaker 5: it was a solid main event. I mean, it was
- 1:05:24Speaker 5: not their best performance. There was just a lot of
- 1:05:27Speaker 5: predictable spots. You know it's gonna be We've seen these
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: two wrestle for you know, damn near twenty years. Like
- 1:05:38Speaker 5: it feels like, uh so, yeah, we're gonna see Orton's
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: five moves. We're gonna see seen as five moves, and
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: we got to see them steal each other's finishers, which
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: I always think is funny. A couple of times, uh
- 1:05:52Speaker 5: the the Shenanigans with the rest getting knocked out, I
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: had me rolling my fucking eyes.
- 1:05:58Speaker 8: But you know, as soon as Orton's embarrassing, right, yeah.
- 1:06:02Speaker 5: I mean with the rest. It was very embarrassing. And
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: then they sent out all the the the other people.
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: As soon as he started laying out all those RCOs,
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, Or is not getting.
- 1:06:15Speaker 6: The win here because that that right there, not not
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: him laying out everybody with the r KOs, but with
- 1:06:22Speaker 6: all the officials from the back came out. That's to
- 1:06:25Speaker 6: me when this match, I guess you could say jumped
- 1:06:28Speaker 6: the shark or just went completely ridiculous, not because all
- 1:06:31Speaker 6: the people came from the back to want all those
- 1:06:34Speaker 6: people to check on just what one ref or two
- 1:06:37Speaker 6: like excessive, But more so than that, the fact that
- 1:06:42Speaker 6: among all those officials came out the back, who else
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: was with them?
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: Nick?
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: Fucking all? This the damn gm of SmackDown the quote
- 1:06:55Speaker 6: unquote boss, you mean to tell me YO.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Can't count the motherfucking three?
- 1:07:03Speaker 8: Right?
- 1:07:03Speaker 6: I mean, any other job, if the employee can't do
- 1:07:07Speaker 6: their part, who usually.
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: Steps in to fill that gap? Management?
- 1:07:14Speaker 8: What?
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: Right? What the fuck is Nick?
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: All?
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: This management?
- 1:07:21Speaker 6: Motherfucker managed the situation. I have a wrestler down, I
- 1:07:26Speaker 6: have a competitor covering him. I have no one to
- 1:07:29Speaker 6: count the three. Let me get my blue suit wearing
- 1:07:32Speaker 6: ass the fuck down and count the goddamn three.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: At least then it would have made.
- 1:07:38Speaker 6: Sense rather than all this shit happening and no, let's
- 1:07:41Speaker 6: wait for another referee to come down and just drag
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: that segment out longer than it needed to have to be.
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: I think like it was just that those details, but
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: that lack of attention to detail is what really irked
- 1:07:57Speaker 6: me in this match. I don't think it would have
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: been nearly as bad if that would have happened, and
- 1:08:01Speaker 6: then Nick Allis would have gone down to count the
- 1:08:03Speaker 6: three and then maybe played ref until another referee came
- 1:08:07Speaker 6: from the back to fill in, or the count the three.
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: He kicks out, you get up, you get pissed off,
- 1:08:15Speaker 6: and then you r ko him. At least then it
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: makes some level of logical sense. But for the whole
- 1:08:23Speaker 6: fucking boss to come out right then and there and
- 1:08:26Speaker 6: just completely ignore what's happening right next to him and
- 1:08:31Speaker 6: then in an active, ongoing match, makes no sense.
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, like I said, since I knew he's
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: getting out of all those rkos, I was like, Okay,
- 1:08:40Speaker 5: this is his moment in his hometown, this is where
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: he gets his big pops. But we we got the Shenangikins.
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: We got the the I actually had it. We got
- 1:08:52Speaker 5: the the the title knocking knocking him out, and the
- 1:08:58Speaker 5: ref there that shanagans. But then let's, dude, let's talk
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: about the big what the fuck moment. We got the
- 1:09:07Speaker 5: punt coming up right, Orton's bringing back the punt. He's
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: gonna put He's gonna put, see a way, and then
- 1:09:12Speaker 5: we get fucking our truth, our truth. And the thing
- 1:09:17Speaker 5: is like I knew at some point we were gonna
- 1:09:20Speaker 5: get heel scena coming across, you know face, our truth
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: right at some point, and like here's where it happens,
- 1:09:32Speaker 5: and you know, gets in the way and and or
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: in right away. Orton's like, no way, this is happening.
- 1:09:38Speaker 5: It's like you can read his lips. I thought that
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: shit was funny. He's like, no way, this is happening.
- 1:09:45Speaker 5: I did enjoy like all the heel tactics like Sina
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: was trying to do, like I poking and stuff, and
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: and Orton would just return it with some I poking
- 1:09:53Speaker 5: of his own, like pitch like I used to be
- 1:09:56Speaker 5: heel too. I I poke all the time. Uh if
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: you didn't catch it, uh these you know what I'm
- 1:10:06Speaker 5: not gonna lie. Like these post show interviews, I'm kind
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: of more and more interested in them because some now
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: ship happens. They're like to us now they're becoming like
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: the post credit scene of a Marvel movie.
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:10:19Speaker 8: Well before.
- 1:10:21Speaker 12: Before them press conference, there was a whole like post
- 1:10:24Speaker 12: credits scene of seeing a leaving and going to the back.
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: Did you see that not to go leave?
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: I did not say it.
- 1:10:31Speaker 13: Tell me about it because it makes no fucking sense.
- 1:10:36Speaker 13: And once again like I do not understand this scenior,
- 1:10:38Speaker 13: He'll turn like he's hitting well he was was the
- 1:10:42Speaker 13: any competition?
- 1:10:43Speaker 8: Was that on the show? Or was that after?
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: Okay, no, no, no, no no, that's how the show
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: went off the air. He read Mike afterwards, and that's
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: how the show p Eli ended.
- 1:10:57Speaker 8: After that, he gets down with the ring.
- 1:10:59Speaker 12: He puts the belt on the apron and he's just
- 1:11:00Speaker 12: staring at it, and the crowd starts going from booing
- 1:11:03Speaker 12: him to thank you see a chance, and he almost
- 1:11:06Speaker 12: looks like he's gonna start crying.
- 1:11:08Speaker 8: Like very very emotional looking, you know, and and then
- 1:11:14Speaker 8: a very solid walk to the back, and then he
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: starts off the press conference with I should have been
- 1:11:21Speaker 8: nicer to you folks in here, I'm apologize in the future.
- 1:11:24Speaker 17: Like, so, it looks like he's having technic thoughts about
- 1:11:27Speaker 17: this whole He'll Turn thing, which already makes.
- 1:11:29Speaker 8: No fucking size.
- 1:11:31Speaker 12: But the fact that they included this whole scene of
- 1:11:35Speaker 12: him staring at the belt and the crowd thank you
- 1:11:37Speaker 12: see and I think you now.
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: Obviously they how could they have known that was gonna
- 1:11:40Speaker 8: happen or whatever?
- 1:11:41Speaker 17: Why Why is he sitting there like soaking it in
- 1:11:45Speaker 17: and like almost looking curioz if there's the and then
- 1:11:49Speaker 17: he then he fews poor.
- 1:11:54Speaker 12: Are thru through a table at the press coffee. There
- 1:11:58Speaker 12: is so so much inconsistent this heal turn. Where does
- 1:12:03Speaker 12: the soul come in? What did we just completely forgetting
- 1:12:05Speaker 12: about the selling his soul part of this? Like, I
- 1:12:08Speaker 12: guess the rock officially has nothing to do with anything.
- 1:12:12Speaker 8: The whole thing's a fucking mess. I'm sorry, Wade, What
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: were you going to say about the press conference?
- 1:12:20Speaker 5: What you what you were saying about?
- 1:12:22Speaker 19: Uh?
- 1:12:22Speaker 5: You know, Archie is approaching him and and uh you
- 1:12:26Speaker 5: know getting I forget it seemed like if you say
- 1:12:29Speaker 5: one more word and Archer does say one more word
- 1:12:33Speaker 5: and he takes it off. He just puts some rights
- 1:12:35Speaker 5: to the table. But yeah, I mean, just all these
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: press conferences, some of them are kind of interesting things happened.
- 1:12:43Speaker 5: I mean, I think my first one that really caught
- 1:12:46Speaker 5: my eye, I guess was when uh was it j
- 1:12:50Speaker 5: and Cody were drunk and they were doing the press conference.
- 1:12:55Speaker 5: I think that's the one that was kind of fun. Yeah,
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: I think that's the one that kind of caught her.
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: With these press conferences and like now we kind of
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: get these like post credit scene type things that happen
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: like uh like that, Like I didn't see that. That's
- 1:13:09Speaker 5: I had to you know, I have to see that
- 1:13:11Speaker 5: online somewhere because I don't mean heard, you know, that's
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: there's just so much that happens off air. But yeah,
- 1:13:19Speaker 5: maybe it's just a real moment Doyle. You know, I
- 1:13:23Speaker 5: don't know, maybe he knew the cameras weren't.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: Did w W WE posted to their social media?
- 1:13:29Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah they must have.
- 1:13:31Speaker 8: Yeah, it wasn't. It was not a sam cam thing.
- 1:13:35Speaker 8: It was like it was a w W cameras capturing
- 1:13:38Speaker 8: all of this. Yeah, okay, great, So why would you
- 1:13:42Speaker 8: why would you put that out? That's nothing to do.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: Anything exactly, like they don't do stuff like that for
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: no reason.
- 1:13:48Speaker 12: And and even if you know you don't expect this,
- 1:13:51Speaker 12: let's go seeing a chance or that's not let's just
- 1:13:54Speaker 12: see thank you seeing a chance to start?
- 1:13:56Speaker 8: Like why is he acting emotional of it? Couldn't if
- 1:13:58Speaker 8: he's a heel. Shouldn't you be like you?
- 1:14:00Speaker 12: You know, like I don't want to hear it. You
- 1:14:02Speaker 12: know what are you thanking me for? You know something,
- 1:14:05Speaker 12: some kind of adverse reaction to it?
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: Like the fans?
- 1:14:08Speaker 6: You know what this is about to be between the
- 1:14:10Speaker 6: fans and John Cena. Were about to have like an
- 1:14:13Speaker 6: intervention between the fans and Sena something like.
- 1:14:16Speaker 5: This, because I know, somewhere deep down.
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: In my heart I still love you.
- 1:14:35Speaker 8: Oh okay, Oh my gosh. I don't know what the hell.
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: That's what's about to be between the fans and John Cena.
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: I don't know how well that picked up on the
- 1:14:47Speaker 6: miceince I played it off my phone. But that's about
- 1:14:50Speaker 6: to be the fans of John Cena.
- 1:14:55Speaker 8: That's kind of more visual, I think, but I made laughs.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: Obviously that's what it's gonna be.
- 1:15:05Speaker 6: He's gonna be trying to be all the asshole in
- 1:15:07Speaker 6: the world and the fans are gonna be like, but
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: we still love you, I know.
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: Because it's it's it's so tied into his retirement. It's
- 1:15:16Speaker 5: like how much how are you going to be a
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: face for twenty years and then on your way out
- 1:15:21Speaker 5: give me the finger all the way out and expect
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: me not to be like.
- 1:15:26Speaker 8: You know, yeah, I mean they should have done this
- 1:15:28Speaker 8: ten years ago or exactly.
- 1:15:31Speaker 6: It's like, I mean, we all know he's gonna turn
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: face before he goes out, Like he's not going out
- 1:15:35Speaker 6: as a heel, of course.
- 1:15:37Speaker 5: Yeah. I Like, he's like, do you want me to
- 1:15:39Speaker 5: ruin wrestling? And guess what, I'm not leaving. I'm staying
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: here until ninety Like what.
- 1:15:44Speaker 8: Maybe he's ruined. Maybe he's ruining wrestling by having awful back.
- 1:15:48Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, you know what I know it's
- 1:15:52Speaker 5: again we think about it like we're like, oh, man,
- 1:15:54Speaker 5: like this sucks. He's not coming out with new music,
- 1:15:57Speaker 5: he's not coming out with like a new hairstyle, he's
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: not coming out with new attire. It's just the same georts.
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: You know, we're like pissed off or like these lackluster
- 1:16:06Speaker 5: like he's playing it safe type matches.
- 1:16:09Speaker 6: But he's the only thing I said he should have
- 1:16:11Speaker 6: done was wear black jeorts. Should have gone back to
- 1:16:14Speaker 6: the black jorts.
- 1:16:15Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's not, like I love, he's not destroying
- 1:16:20Speaker 5: people in the micro like he used to. But like
- 1:16:24Speaker 5: it's like, okay, maybe this is him ruining wrestling for us,
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: you know, but go ahead, bough.
- 1:16:31Speaker 8: Oh, I just don't.
- 1:16:32Speaker 12: I love his new video package where John C and
- 1:16:36Speaker 12: White levels on black, but it's just that and not
- 1:16:41Speaker 12: anything else.
- 1:16:42Speaker 8: There's so much inconsistency. It's just it doesn't make sense
- 1:16:45Speaker 8: to me.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you. You gotta move the merge. That's
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: why you got the shirts and all that stuff, so
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: everybody gonna statch them up in the towel.
- 1:16:53Speaker 6: You could have done it with black jorts. Yeah, you
- 1:16:58Speaker 6: could have done it. They could have done it with
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: black jors. Hell, they could have saved some money just
- 1:17:01Speaker 6: made them all black shirts and just made the accent
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: colors different depending on the city.
- 1:17:06Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:17:07Speaker 12: You could have remixed time is now or whatever, like
- 1:17:12Speaker 12: made it slower or something or mutton you know, I
- 1:17:15Speaker 12: don't know, somehow chopped and screwed or something something, Just
- 1:17:22Speaker 12: like why why change just the video package and nothing else.
- 1:17:26Speaker 8: Doesn't make like it's just something. It's just so much,
- 1:17:30Speaker 8: so many intonsistencies in this whole thing a fucking walk.
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:37Speaker 6: Oh well, I mean then again, if I still want
- 1:17:39Speaker 6: to continue to reach, then you could say that him
- 1:17:43Speaker 6: having regrets could be a sign of him going soft.
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: And if he's going soft, then who might come up
- 1:17:51Speaker 6: to check them in ongoing soft and be like, you're
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: getting soft on me?
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: Boy?
- 1:17:57Speaker 6: Maybe this is a way to find a way to
- 1:18:00Speaker 6: get the final boss back in this again, I'm breaching.
- 1:18:04Speaker 6: I don't know if this is actually gonna happen, but
- 1:18:06Speaker 6: seeing it getting soft and the final boss shows up
- 1:18:09Speaker 6: like Forge, you're showing signs of weakness like most like
- 1:18:12Speaker 6: we've seen before. Another storylines where the villain is working
- 1:18:15Speaker 6: for the real bad guy and all of a sudden
- 1:18:17Speaker 6: they start having regrets and then the person they're working
- 1:18:21Speaker 6: for turns on them for getting soft.
- 1:18:27Speaker 8: Does it feel like they're retcon in it? And I
- 1:18:29Speaker 8: feel like that's just gonna make it worse?
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: Oh, it totally would. It totally would make it worse
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: if they went that route.
- 1:18:35Speaker 6: But at this point, who knows where they're going with
- 1:18:38Speaker 6: these storylines, because clearly they ain't got much time between
- 1:18:42Speaker 6: all these damn shows to invest in storylines. Yeah, look,
- 1:18:46Speaker 6: they could just be shoehorning shit or fastball and shit
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: just to get from one pol to the next.
- 1:18:53Speaker 8: Things like.
- 1:18:56Speaker 20: And then something not their Sorry, but like some stories
- 1:19:01Speaker 20: seem to move super fast and they're over before you
- 1:19:03Speaker 20: even know it started.
- 1:19:04Speaker 8: And another thing is it's like, is this still going?
- 1:19:07Speaker 8: Had the whole really since? Maybe this year It's just
- 1:19:19Speaker 8: it's the thing has been weird, I guess most of.
- 1:19:22Speaker 6: This year and meanwhile did seem to be interesting have
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: seemingly fallen by the wayside or lost all any and
- 1:19:30Speaker 6: all momentum they had seen new day they see they feel.
- 1:19:34Speaker 8: Like they're they're hitting a lot more pop flies and
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: our home runs lately.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely that.
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: Any other final thoughts on this pod, Nope, that was good. Yeah,
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: it looks like John c. His next match will probably
- 1:19:53Speaker 6: be him versus Our Truth, probably a Saturday night main event.
- 1:19:58Speaker 8: See that has the potensions that'll be fun.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: It could be depending on how they play it.
- 1:20:04Speaker 21: I just said the overbook, it's see why they won't
- 1:20:10Speaker 21: they semed to be doing Uh, I think that they
- 1:20:12Speaker 21: run It has the potential to be really fun and
- 1:20:15Speaker 21: it has all to be really overbooked and awful.
- 1:20:19Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what arranged.
- 1:20:25Speaker 6: Honestly, if it was me, I would book that match
- 1:20:29Speaker 6: dead pants serious, like, rather than trying to be, rather
- 1:20:34Speaker 6: than leaning into our truth, being the silly you know,
- 1:20:40Speaker 6: my childhood hero Yeah yeah to your hero blah blah,
- 1:20:43Speaker 6: I would make I would actually play it up dead
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: serious and make like.
- 1:20:46Speaker 8: That awesome right.
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: TNA stuff Hell yeah, Ron the truth Killings was just that. Yeah.
- 1:21:00Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:21:00Speaker 6: I would make that moment of John Cena putting him
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: through the table. I would make that his eye opening
- 1:21:06Speaker 6: moment for for for our truth that it snaps him out,
- 1:21:14Speaker 6: not just that, well, whether it snaps him out of
- 1:21:16Speaker 6: the whole goofball this, I would love it, but probably not.
- 1:21:19Speaker 6: But at the very least, it shatters the image that
- 1:21:22Speaker 6: he has of John being his childhood hero.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: And now rather than being like you're my childhood hero, I.
- 1:21:29Speaker 6: Can't believe you did that to me. Oh yeaha yatta
- 1:21:32Speaker 6: or bullying him or you know, John's like fight me,
- 1:21:35Speaker 6: fight me, fine, o't fight you get or whatever?
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: Bullshit? No I say, He's like, no, you're not the
- 1:21:41Speaker 2: person I thought you were. And now I gotta fuck
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: you up anyone to the head.
- 1:21:48Speaker 12: No, nowhere tatin event it takes place where it's emanating.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: From, I do uh, let's see Tampa, Florida.
- 1:21:59Speaker 5: Oh is it.
- 1:22:02Speaker 8: Y?
- 1:22:02Speaker 20: I'm just thinking, like if it's if it's if it's
- 1:22:04Speaker 20: like a hot crowd city like a Chicago or or
- 1:22:07Speaker 20: Philly obviously phill New York, or a Boston or something like.
- 1:22:12Speaker 20: I think there's a potential for the crowd to be
- 1:22:14Speaker 20: for our our truth to be fucking over a ship.
- 1:22:17Speaker 8: But I don't know about Tampa.
- 1:22:18Speaker 20: Maybe I don't know, but like you know, if it's
- 1:22:21Speaker 20: something see town, like you know, he'll be over, but
- 1:22:24Speaker 20: he's not gonna be like over.
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and Florida.
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: Honestly, that's more seeing the territory than oh, I think
- 1:22:32Speaker 6: most people think because yeah, yeah, Plus Johnson I think
- 1:22:38Speaker 6: lives in Florida. I think like Orlando or something like that, right,
- 1:22:44Speaker 6: like like his home home I think is Florida, do
- 1:22:49Speaker 6: you guys.
- 1:22:50Speaker 2: At least one of them Night.
- 1:22:51Speaker 5: Of Champions is gonna be on June twenty eighth, and
- 1:22:53Speaker 5: that will be held in Saudia Arabia, So that's not
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: that far away.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: No, it's three weeks after money in the bank, and
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: we don't even know.
- 1:23:05Speaker 12: What Champions means do Is it gonna be Done versus Jacob?
- 1:23:13Speaker 12: Is it gonna be Jay Versusina?
- 1:23:16Speaker 8: You know?
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: My guess is we will find out.
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: June eighth, when they have to fastball into these fucking matches.
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: They will be a raw and somebody will show up
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: as champion and the champion from the other show will.
- 1:23:37Speaker 6: Just pop up and start talking ship. Oh you want
- 1:23:41Speaker 6: to show up talk ship? Well, fine, let's do this
- 1:23:44Speaker 6: at night of Champions.
- 1:23:48Speaker 8: Dominic and Jacob might be awesome.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: I mean that, Yeah, that that is a par sleeper match.
- 1:23:55Speaker 5: Yeah, So Doyle, what what has seven seasons one and
- 1:24:00Speaker 5: eight episodes and started in nineteen eighty nine, but it's
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: making a comeback? Which show that would be American Gladiators?
- 1:24:19Speaker 8: Have you seen any of those documentaries? Have fucked up?
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: Behind the God that.
- 1:24:30Speaker 5: Record show of American Gladiators? Please watch that documentary. I
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: don't know, I forget where about.
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: There's two of them.
- 1:24:37Speaker 6: There's one that there's one that was on Netflix, and
- 1:24:40Speaker 6: I think the other one was either on Max or Hulu.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: But they're both.
- 1:24:44Speaker 6: They're honestly both worth watching because they cover it from
- 1:24:48Speaker 6: different perspectives. One is a bit exactly. One is much
- 1:24:51Speaker 6: more behind the scenes and talks about the the career.
- 1:24:55Speaker 6: It focuses on the creator of the show and the
- 1:24:58Speaker 6: stuff that he did, whereas a nu the one focuses
- 1:25:00Speaker 6: on like the show itself and the cast, and Nitro.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: Is only featured in one of them. Obviously, he was
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: the most popular with the Gladiators. Uh.
- 1:25:09Speaker 6: He appears in the Netflix one, if I'm not mistaken,
- 1:25:13Speaker 6: not the other one. But they're definitely both worth watching.
- 1:25:18Speaker 8: Yes, they think that was firefast documentaries. They complimented each other.
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: Very much, so very much so.
- 1:25:25Speaker 12: I mean you see you see one Jeffrey Dahmer documentary,
- 1:25:28Speaker 12: you see them all right, But yeah, they're they're they're
- 1:25:31Speaker 12: both worth watching for sure.
- 1:25:33Speaker 8: Ikes to love that ship? Man?
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: Who didn't love American Gladiators as a kid on that
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: show watching the people, right, you couldn't tell me I
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: couldn't do that, Yeah, that little of course when they
- 1:25:48Speaker 2: had the target, you couldn't tell me I couldn't have
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: killed that ship. I got a fuck you misuses, that's right.
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: But beyond the show, what else I want to bring up?
- 1:26:00Speaker 8: Oh?
- 1:26:00Speaker 12: Yeah, well, you know the mins can't possibly be worse
- 1:26:03Speaker 12: than Mike Adamley was on Raw.
- 1:26:06Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good thing, so true. What did you
- 1:26:09Speaker 8: call it, Jeff, Jeff Harvey, his name is Jeff Harvey.
- 1:26:14Speaker 6: Yeah, and freaking and lord knows, this revival of American
- 1:26:18Speaker 6: glidiers can't be worse than Rocks Titan Games.
- 1:26:25Speaker 5: Guy sat unfortunately, guys on May eleventh this year. The
- 1:26:30Speaker 5: other day, at sixty years old, we lost Terrence Michael Bronk,
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: which is also known as Saboo. He was in ECW
- 1:26:41Speaker 5: from nineteen ninety three all the way to two thousand.
- 1:26:45Speaker 5: Then I think they brought him back again when they
- 1:26:49Speaker 5: brought back the E c W brand one more time.
- 1:26:53Speaker 5: I know recently you guys were talking about it on
- 1:26:57Speaker 5: the disc where that he had his last match recently
- 1:26:59Speaker 5: he retired.
- 1:27:02Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the way the weekend and it was a
- 1:27:03Speaker 8: frame wretch.
- 1:27:05Speaker 5: Yeah I heard, I heard. It's you know, there's a
- 1:27:09Speaker 5: point where it's like it's it's rough to like watch
- 1:27:13Speaker 5: these older wrestlers trying to still get in the ring.
- 1:27:15Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:27:17Speaker 12: Yeah, this was this was definitely that I don't know,
- 1:27:21Speaker 12: I don't know that we've got a cause of death yet,
- 1:27:23Speaker 12: haven't we.
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: I don't know how much this match may or may
- 1:27:27Speaker 8: not have faceded it, but he does not look good.
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: It's a bar wire match, of course.
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
- 1:27:36Speaker 8: I can't really recommend going to watch it unless you're
- 1:27:39Speaker 8: more bid curious.
- 1:27:41Speaker 12: It's like there's a part where they you know, Irish
- 1:27:44Speaker 12: flipping onto a board and it looks like he's fairly
- 1:27:48Speaker 12: pretty clearly just supposed to land on the board, but
- 1:27:50Speaker 12: he goes.
- 1:27:51Speaker 8: All the way out of the ring, lands on his
- 1:27:53Speaker 8: head on the concrete. It was. It's really ugly.
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:28:01Speaker 6: Remember, just go back and watch the old d c
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: W stuff. Watch him at his best, the way you remember,
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: the way.
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: We all loved them.
- 1:28:10Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, and I always say, uh, the Raymonds
- 1:28:13Speaker 12: area was the most important wrestler in the last thirty years.
- 1:28:16Speaker 8: I think top was in the top five.
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:28:18Speaker 8: And then another if you want to see a good match,
- 1:28:21Speaker 8: I think it was the first time they did.
- 1:28:25Speaker 22: The e c W was a one night stand in
- 1:28:27Speaker 22: the Hammer. Yeah, fucking off the match. Yeah, I think
- 1:28:35Speaker 22: that was the Shana wins we riot.
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: So now that would have been the second one.
- 1:28:41Speaker 8: Then is that the second one?
- 1:28:43Speaker 6: It would have been the second That was the second one?
- 1:28:45Speaker 6: Was the one that had Rob band Damn versus John Cena.
- 1:28:49Speaker 12: Right, yeah, okay, one the Ray is definitely the first one. Yeah,
- 1:28:56Speaker 12: but yeah, it wouldn't nobody did the ship that he
- 1:29:01Speaker 12: was doing, you know, like, and he's one of those
- 1:29:04Speaker 12: guys that's gonna be uh.
- 1:29:06Speaker 8: Feeling, We're gonna feel his influence for a long time
- 1:29:08Speaker 8: and whether or not people even realized they're imitating him,
- 1:29:13Speaker 8: you know.
- 1:29:14Speaker 12: And it was that ronic on the if you watch
- 1:29:16Speaker 12: The Dark Side of the Ring, his uncle, the original
- 1:29:19Speaker 12: speak was the subject matter this week, so he was
- 1:29:21Speaker 12: all over the episode.
- 1:29:22Speaker 8: Of course, it was just kind of weird. Well, I
- 1:29:24Speaker 8: mean was watching this afternoon.
- 1:29:26Speaker 12: Uh, it's just kind of strange seeing him all over
- 1:29:28Speaker 12: this episode talking about his you know uncle.
- 1:29:31Speaker 8: And so here he has just passed away.
- 1:29:35Speaker 12: His uncle was phenomenally uh innovative and influential as well.
- 1:29:42Speaker 8: But yeah, it's a good loss.
- 1:29:43Speaker 12: I mean, obviously he wasn't super active anymore, and judging
- 1:29:47Speaker 12: by his last match, he couldn't do anything you get
- 1:29:52Speaker 12: into the ring, which is unfortunate.
- 1:29:55Speaker 8: But yeah, he lost for the wrestling world.
- 1:30:01Speaker 6: Definitely definitely rest in peace to the legend to the
- 1:30:04Speaker 6: homicidal genocidal suicidal sab.
- 1:30:10Speaker 12: Do you remember when uh, when he first came, when
- 1:30:14Speaker 12: I guess thee w w W E c W started,
- 1:30:19Speaker 12: Vince is strutting down the hall and he comes up
- 1:30:21Speaker 12: to and he's like, it's like just have a very
- 1:30:25Speaker 12: awkward interaction.
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: Guess those jokes. Office Ship calls him the Taliban and
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: all that stuff, like I know who you are.
- 1:30:35Speaker 8: It's like you stayed away from me. Yeah, right, just
- 1:30:41Speaker 8: random memory.
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: Yeah, he Saboo.
- 1:30:44Speaker 6: I mean, for as short as his run was in
- 1:30:46Speaker 6: w w E, he made the most of it because
- 1:30:49Speaker 6: he had some moments.
- 1:30:53Speaker 8: He had a run in w c W in like
- 1:30:55Speaker 8: the mid nineties. Yeah, it's actually in the in the
- 1:31:01Speaker 8: in the original Chik dark Side episode.
- 1:31:05Speaker 12: Uh, he's seconded him in one of his Uh, I
- 1:31:09Speaker 12: forget who Sadu was wrestling on a w c W
- 1:31:13Speaker 12: pay per view and Sabu does a moon salt to
- 1:31:15Speaker 12: the outside and lands on the guy.
- 1:31:17Speaker 8: But the original Sheek was standing right behind him and
- 1:31:20Speaker 8: he's the opponent fell on him and broke his leg
- 1:31:23Speaker 8: and he's still finished the match.
- 1:31:25Speaker 20: Mm hmmm, still throwing fireballs and then that family people,
- 1:31:33Speaker 20: these people.
- 1:31:36Speaker 19: We'll be dead. I thought I was in Texas. Hell,
- 1:31:45Speaker 19: I'm not in tuxas. I'm an As fan.
- 1:31:50Speaker 8: Hey, boys, check it out. Here's a member of the
- 1:31:53Speaker 8: talent Dan.
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, I know you. You're that guy, Saboo,
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: the great Saboo.
- 1:32:04Speaker 8: You're that homicidal, genocidal, suicidal.
- 1:32:12Speaker 4: Guy.
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: Yeah, you stayed all away from me.
- 1:32:22Speaker 8: Yeah, an awkward interaction defended.
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: Yeah, awkward to start off, but eventually it got there.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: It got to the point that even that guy scares events.
- 1:32:34Speaker 8: Oh yeah, exactly. So that's all I got.
- 1:32:39Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't really hear anything else in the news.
- 1:32:41Speaker 23: Uh, I you know, nothing super important happened at all,
- 1:32:47Speaker 23: you know, I'm just I think the only thing I'm
- 1:32:49Speaker 23: really intrigued by right now is if we're getting another
- 1:32:53Speaker 23: person added to seth Ra's little click here, because it
- 1:32:57Speaker 23: seems like there's there's something in the words he has plans.
- 1:33:02Speaker 6: I mean, we Yeah, we had a banger of a
- 1:33:04Speaker 6: main event featuring four of the best women's wrestlers on
- 1:33:07Speaker 6: n w w E right now. Yeah, Ria and Eo
- 1:33:10Speaker 6: taking on Rock Sand and Julia. That was a banger
- 1:33:16Speaker 6: of a fucking main event match.
- 1:33:19Speaker 8: Yeah, that was fun.
- 1:33:22Speaker 5: Max.
- 1:33:22Speaker 8: I like I like that. I like to do a
- 1:33:26Speaker 8: EO and Rhea. Yes, it's a fun, little fun, little
- 1:33:30Speaker 8: strange fellows.
- 1:33:32Speaker 6: And you can see yeah definitely, like it seems like, uh,
- 1:33:37Speaker 6: EO's all in with it, Like she seemed to really
- 1:33:40Speaker 6: be enjoying it.
- 1:33:42Speaker 2: Ria, on the other hand, kind of seeing a little.
- 1:33:45Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't I don't know if that's some
- 1:33:47Speaker 6: subtle storytelling they were doing there when maybe there's more
- 1:33:51Speaker 6: that's gonna come from it or.
- 1:33:54Speaker 8: Or what.
- 1:33:55Speaker 6: Because it it didn't just seem to be a case
- 1:33:57Speaker 6: of Ria being like, Okay, I'll awkwardly.
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: Go along with this. It seemed more like she was like.
- 1:34:06Speaker 6: Genuinely like not interested in it, like she was just
- 1:34:10Speaker 6: more down on it rather than just be like, Okay,
- 1:34:14Speaker 6: I guess I'll play along. I don't know, just watching
- 1:34:18Speaker 6: her and just looking at her face during it, it
- 1:34:21Speaker 6: seemed didn't seem like an awkward like play a long
- 1:34:25Speaker 6: type of thing, more like an actively disinterested or unactively
- 1:34:31Speaker 6: unenthused about this stuff. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean
- 1:34:37Speaker 6: that they're playing any seeds of any kind of real
- 1:34:40Speaker 6: hill term, because she's way too fucking popular for that
- 1:34:43Speaker 6: right now.
- 1:34:44Speaker 8: Yeah, she hasn't really been a face that long.
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: Right, Well, I guess she hasn't been an official face
- 1:34:53Speaker 6: that long. I would argue she's probably been. She's been
- 1:34:57Speaker 6: babyface probably since she feuded with Charlotte Flair going into
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: WrestleMania thirty nine.
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:35:06Speaker 6: Yeah, I would argue she's been popular and been faced
- 1:35:09Speaker 6: with the fans at least since then. They just didn't
- 1:35:14Speaker 6: finally turn her until what she came back from.
- 1:35:21Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean soon was a heel against Becky at
- 1:35:24Speaker 12: WRESTLINGA forty Yeah, sometime.
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: In the last year.
- 1:35:28Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much when she when she came back from
- 1:35:30Speaker 6: the injury, uh, from her injured shoulder, that was pretty
- 1:35:35Speaker 6: much she would get back officially, Yeah, officially a baby
- 1:35:39Speaker 6: face because by then Live had stolen Dumb and or
- 1:35:43Speaker 6: they were or she was back at the baby face
- 1:35:45Speaker 6: and Lived was definitely heel status and they were feuding.
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: So yeah, it has been less than a year.
- 1:35:55Speaker 6: Officially, and like I said, she's way too popular her
- 1:36:00Speaker 6: now for them to try to turn her anytime soon.
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. And on the other note, Freaking Kyrie
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: saying looked like she been going ham in the gym.
- 1:36:14Speaker 8: Yeah. Oh, there's a couple of pictures of her recently.
- 1:36:21Speaker 6: Yeah, she is looking. One she's been getting some sun
- 1:36:25Speaker 6: or some spray, and two she been bulking up.
- 1:36:29Speaker 5: Oh now I see a picture of her holy ship.
- 1:36:32Speaker 6: Yeah inane. Damn yeah, that is insane. Elbow about to
- 1:36:37Speaker 6: be the most dangerous moving wrestling gonna put motherfuckers through
- 1:36:42Speaker 6: the matt What the hell?
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:36:48Speaker 8: Cool?
- 1:36:49Speaker 5: And I heard uh why? Didn't really dig too much
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: into it, but something going on with Alexa Bliss and Charlotte.
- 1:36:58Speaker 5: Are we getting the possible team up?
- 1:37:00Speaker 4: Why?
- 1:37:01Speaker 6: I don't know about the team up, but they teased
- 1:37:03Speaker 6: something Friday after Charlotte left was leaving the arena, which
- 1:37:08Speaker 6: obviously earlier in the show, we got the return of
- 1:37:11Speaker 6: Alexa Bliss when she teamed up with It's Only in
- 1:37:14Speaker 6: a Vega. But then as Charlotte was leaving the arena
- 1:37:17Speaker 6: about to get into her vehicle, the door slams shut
- 1:37:20Speaker 6: in front of her and on the other side is
- 1:37:23Speaker 6: Alexa Bliss. He's saying, let's chat. Mm hmmm, We'll see
- 1:37:28Speaker 6: where that goes.
- 1:37:31Speaker 11: Yeah, you still got you still got the Wyatts six
- 1:37:34Speaker 11: out in the easter. We haven't heard from them for months.
- 1:37:38Speaker 11: Uh and the teams like it seemed like a foregone conclusion.
- 1:37:42Speaker 11: That Alexa was going to be involved with them somehow, but.
- 1:37:47Speaker 20: Where are they keeping She made a returnment, disappeared, So
- 1:37:51Speaker 20: it's just like, I don't know what.
- 1:37:53Speaker 8: I don't know what's going with her.
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're paying this woman for how many years?
- 1:37:58Speaker 5: Let's put her on TV and user for PC. She's
- 1:38:01Speaker 5: not injured right now, Let's use her.
- 1:38:04Speaker 6: Regardless because you want the talk around it has gotten
- 1:38:08Speaker 6: very loud about the fact that y'all brought her back
- 1:38:11Speaker 6: tease it and then put her back on the shelf.
- 1:38:14Speaker 12: And you got and you have your CEO out there
- 1:38:17Speaker 12: saying to people or we don't sign people and then
- 1:38:19Speaker 12: put them on the bench, right.
- 1:38:22Speaker 8: Lies or the president whatever the hell? Whatever the hell
- 1:38:26Speaker 8: Nick con Is. I think he's saying the president whatever, the.
- 1:38:30Speaker 5: Guy who signs out the paychecks.
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, he is technically l presidente.
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- 1:39:01Speaker 8: It looks like there will be a game five.
- 1:39:04Speaker 5: Yeah, awesome, that's man, Get well soon.
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