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Ep. 130 - Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) · Frightmares

• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, one, that's annoying as ship do don't touch the skull,
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: leave the skull alone. That is not good for podcasting, dude, So.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: It's good for asmr s. Listen, listen.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who doesn't want what sounds like creatures at
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: my door? Okay, seriously, I get this.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone else feeling relaxed.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: The joke is landed, but I need you to stop forever.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Are you done now? Probably not. We'll probably
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: bring that back up later in the episode. Well, Zule's
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: Pete in the studio, so I guess this is hers
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  Speaker 1: now and she's gonna do the podcast from now on.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: So I had to clean that up. That was fun.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: But today what and now she's sleeping on the job,
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Thank god. Today we're doing Bronstokers or bram Stokers. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know however you want to say it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: Aunt and Aunt, I say Bronstokers, ord, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how what Bromstoker is. Dracula. That's the movie we're doing today,
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  Speaker 1: that hot dumpster garbage movie. But it it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun to talk about. And I have
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  Speaker 1: two canker stores in my mouth right now. So that's
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  Speaker 1: fun makes it really easy to talk. So you're gonna
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: do a lot of the reviewing because I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have it any don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: I got lots of thoughts and feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so do I. But this is episode one and thirty.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Austin procteror that is your other host,
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  Speaker 1: Gabrielle Proctor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but before we get into the movie, there's plenty
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: of things we have to discuss. One, I need to
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: slow down because I already am talking at rocket speed.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: Here to drop your phone. But yes, I would like
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: to talk about Scream because you get first DIBs on
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  Speaker 1: that since it's one of your favorite franchises, if not
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  Speaker 1: all time franchise and horror.
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  Speaker 2: And then it is my favorite franchise, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Of all genres?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, I don't know what do you think
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  Speaker 2: my favorite was?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea, But there's more than just horror movies, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: so I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Sure if that was, Oh, you mean of all franchise Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I guess yeah, that'd be my favorite horror franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say it's not your all time
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  Speaker 1: overall favorite franchise. It can't be.
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  Speaker 2: What's my favorite franchise?
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  Speaker 1: Fucking no, dude, it's your friend. Let's figure that out
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  Speaker 1: on another episode.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll come back to that. So yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's let's get into scream. No no spoilers, or we
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  Speaker 1: can go full the.
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  Speaker 2: Killer is No, I'm kidding. That would ruin it. No,
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  Speaker 2: we should not spoil it because it was too good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you, but you know, we could say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fast forward five minutes and go into full spoilers.
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  Speaker 2: But no, fine, whatever, I can't hear anything anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You can't hear anything? No, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I can't hear inside my headphones?
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: It's on. I don't know. Okay, hello, you're literally on,
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  Speaker 1: so I have no idea.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: I can't hear me. I think that's what it is.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Why are you always with.
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  Speaker 1: The setting because you were super because you're super loud.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to adjust it. You're usually very quiet, and
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  Speaker 1: today you're like screaming in my ears. So I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, whatever, okay, so we're going to continue with
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  Speaker 2: what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Make is that better yes, now I can hear better.
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  Speaker 1: You made me turn it down, and then now you're like, okay, here,
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  Speaker 1: well you had.
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  Speaker 2: Have blasted before. It didn't mean turn it off. That's different.
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  Speaker 1: You're just talking about the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So Scream also known as Scream five. It's a
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  Speaker 2: really good movie. It you know, you get you're you
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  Speaker 2: get the old cast back the new cast. Just pretty fun.
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  Speaker 2: They definitely continue the long Scream tradition of making fun
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  Speaker 2: of themselves and making fun of the genre in general.
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  Speaker 2: Well also uh poking fun at some of the newer genres.
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  Speaker 2: And I actually saw someone today point out that it
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  Speaker 2: very much vibes with uh toxic fandom and like they
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  Speaker 2: kind of make fun of how crazy fans can be
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  Speaker 2: and like just how overly invested in projects and the like.
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  Speaker 2: You could just enjoy it instead of taking it so
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  Speaker 2: weirdly seriously. But it was really good. We were laughing
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  Speaker 2: the whole time. Great violence. I'm gonna say that was
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  Speaker 2: the gorious Scream because there's been gore in Scream, but
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  Speaker 2: they lingered on the gore in this one.
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  Speaker 1: Lingered on the gore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they held the shots longer. Like okay, so
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  Speaker 2: think about.
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  Speaker 1: Oh the stab through the neck. That's a great that's
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  Speaker 1: a great example of going past what I thought you would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like beginning of the original Scream, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: when Casey is hung up in the tree, they kind
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  Speaker 2: of zoom in on it, but it was too violent
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  Speaker 2: at the time, so they had to like do this
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  Speaker 2: film technique where they took out some of the frames
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  Speaker 2: to make it look more disjointed and they wouldn't focus
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  Speaker 2: on it so hard. This film, however, Yeah, when they
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  Speaker 2: killed somebody, they held on to it. You saw them dying,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, I think it was definitely the most violent
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 1: Violent, very bloody. Yeahorious stab through the neck where the
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  Speaker 1: knife came out the other side was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty gross.
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  Speaker 1: That was ridiculous. There's also one very just crazy, out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere kill that everyone's talking and it's just like killed.
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  Speaker 1: You're like holy shit, Like I think all of us
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  Speaker 1: jumped and we're like what the fuck was that? We
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  Speaker 1: all just like held our faces like holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, the uh, the whole elevated horror discussion
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  Speaker 1: that they had at the I guess that was kind
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: of like after do we got involved in the story,
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: right when they're all in the in the home. That
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  Speaker 1: was so fucking funny, And I don't think it was
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  Speaker 1: meant to be funny. It was well, but like you
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  Speaker 1: and Spencer looked at me, like, what's so funny, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about elevated horror and just dropping all these
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  Speaker 1: names like hereditary, the witch in a mid Summari, I
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: think they dropped and there was just so many name
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  Speaker 1: drops and and like just the conversation itself was it
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  Speaker 1: was hysterical. I thought it was great just because there
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  Speaker 1: are I see that in horror groups all that I'm
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  Speaker 1: where the snobby people are talking about elevated hohrror and
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  Speaker 1: if you can't understand it, then you know you're not
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  Speaker 1: intelligent enough. And I'm like, okay, well that's rude as fuck.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: But I just thought that whole camaraderie between them was
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  Speaker 1: perfection because that is literally something I see. And yeah,
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: very funny, very funny, Like I didn't think it would
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: be that funny. Dew We was definitely the funniest part
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  Speaker 1: of that entire movie. He had all the best lines
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, and even Gail and Sidney had some
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: good lines as well. But Sidney did not hit Gail
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: sad because she has hit her in.
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  Speaker 2: The first two, first three.
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  Speaker 1: First that it was first two and then four for
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  Speaker 1: some reason, but whatever. It's too it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: running thing where you know.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: You can't befriend somebody after so many The first few times,
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  Speaker 2: it's like they kind of have a love hate relationship,
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  Speaker 2: but by the fourth one, it's like you've known each
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  Speaker 2: other for well over a decade. You can't keep punching
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  Speaker 2: her in the face. Yeah, as funny as it is
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of us, it's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they did a fantastic job, the
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  Speaker 1: same people who did Ready or Not. And I think
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: we mentioned this before, but yeah, there they go by
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  Speaker 1: radio silence they did the Scream franchise is very much justice.
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  Speaker 1: I feel Wes would be extremely proud of what they did.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just a it's a perfect example
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  Speaker 1: of like a equel you know what I mean. And
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: that whole equal conversation that they had too was hilarious
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  Speaker 1: as well. How everything comes back around to the original
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: so and it's there's so many fucking red herrings. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, you have the obvious red herring, then you
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  Speaker 1: have one that you think is the person, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's very It's like the most scream movie I
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  Speaker 1: think I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: And it's fun because they they even poke fun at
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  Speaker 2: themselves for having so many red herrings because red herrings
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  Speaker 2: is a big part of scream and so meta. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they continue to just go, yeah, we know what
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  Speaker 2: kind of movie we're making, and we're gonna do it
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  Speaker 2: exactly like this, and we're gonna tell you we're doing
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  Speaker 2: it while we're doing it, so you know, we fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Know yeah, because I think I think they were on
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  Speaker 1: Stab eight in this movie and they're just like, this
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  Speaker 1: movie is just getting ridiculous. It's it's not even like
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  Speaker 1: the original. And like you got the ghost Face running
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  Speaker 1: around with like double wielding fucking machetes in that hut.
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  Speaker 2: Which is funny because before this came out, this said
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  Speaker 2: the trailer for this had come out after Terrifier too,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody was losing their shit saying that ghost Face
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  Speaker 2: scream was ripping off the Terrifier True two trailer with
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  Speaker 2: the flamethrower thing at the same angle and everything, and
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: then it later turned and then when you see the movie,
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: it turns out that's a trailer for STAB eight, and
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  Speaker 2: they're just making fun of stuff. So the irony is
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: like and then you've got fans getting really upset and
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: really stressed out and really worked up without even really
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  Speaker 2: knowing what's going on, and it's like you kind of
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: just lent yourself to the movie by getting so up
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  Speaker 2: in arms without having actual context.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because they released like a screenshot of ghost
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  Speaker 1: Face with the flamethrower, so you thought that that would
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  Speaker 1: be because it it also because the the one that
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  Speaker 1: was using it in the movie was the was the
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  Speaker 1: ghost Face with like the cutoff sleeves, and from the
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  Speaker 1: picture it looks like ghost Face was going to use
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  Speaker 1: a flamethrower. So I got why they were upset because
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  Speaker 1: of what you just said. But yeah, then you find
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  Speaker 1: out it's just part of like you know, Stab eight,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, well now I'm not mad anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually kind of funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is funny, and it's actually funnier that people
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: got to upset about it.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: I you know, I agreed with that. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is kind of fucked up. But yeah, now after
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: the fact, I'm.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: Like, wait, yeah, context, it's just funny.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with context now it's just kind of funny. So yeah,
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: we got to watch that in Dolby. That was a
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: fantastic Dolby experience. I highly recommend that ten out of ten.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: That's obviously gonna show up later in the year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a really good opening this year
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  Speaker 1: for horror movies. I know last year was Saint Maud
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: and that was also a strong start, and we watched
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: that back in February of twenty twenty one. But we're
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: already off to a solid start with horror movies and
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see how the rest of the
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: year plays out. Because I did not I didn't know.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to expect going into this,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was either going to
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: be a movie that did extremely well or it was
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: going to be one that fell victim to you know,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: being the fifth movie in a series and it not
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: and it being kind of like on the fence. But
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  Speaker 1: this did so well.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: And Scream continues to prove that it is a solid franchise,
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: and it's their self awareness that really carries them through.
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  Speaker 2: They stick to their they honestly stick so closely to
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: their formula and they are so self aware of that
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  Speaker 2: that it's hard to go wrong. It's not, which ironically
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  Speaker 2: they do also talk about in the film. It's not
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: like other franchises like Nightmare on Elm Street, where they
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: just went off the rails at some point and your
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: guys are like, what what happened? What was wrong with
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, we came back to life and just
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: started killing more kids. No, they had to get more
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: and more complicated and skew more and more from the formula,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: and you're like, it doesn't work, and Scream just proves
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: like we're staying where we are and it works.
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  Speaker 1: Well. They have such a strict like formula. It's like
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: every movie is like so formulaic, but somehow they manage
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: to throw you off the scent of who the killer
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: is every fucking time. Every time I've watched a Scream movie,
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, I mean, like I kind of
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  Speaker 1: saw that coming, but I didn't because I didn't want
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: it to be that, But it ended up ended up
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  Speaker 1: being that killer, you know what I mean. Like the
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  Speaker 1: first one is like so obvious.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: And they even do a callback to the second movie. Yeah,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's right, they do which was I was
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  Speaker 2: so happy about. But yeah, they do a great job.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Sydney's even talking about how ridiculously formulaic the events of
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: the film are as they're happening. She's like, oh, this
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: is typical.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: It is literally the most meta movie I've ever watched. Like,
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: just when you think Scream can't get any more meta
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: or be more self aware, do you watch this one?
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  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Like, we sure, and it's funny too, because yeah, I'd
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: say this is probably the most consistent besides Saw. But
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I know me and Spencer are are pretty much alone
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: in that, so I'd say Scream is probably the most
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  Speaker 1: widely accepted consistent because really the only one that's not
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: that great is three. You know, one, two, four, and
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: this one now are all solid fucking movies, but three,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: A little still not bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's well, that's what I'm saying. It's that it's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not like I feel like it's not on
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: par with the other four. But yeah, it's not bad
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  Speaker 1: in any way. I think I gave that one a three,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's still good. It's just a little silly, but.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: Uh, certainly way above some other sequels and other franchises.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. So it's just funny that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Scream is extremely consistent and they don't stray away from
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: their formula, and they managed to keep you on your
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: toes and every movie, I think.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Their original cast, which is hard to do because most
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: of them would have tapped out by now, and they're like, nah,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: we like this is fun. You have a divorced couple
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: who met on the film and later got divorced, and
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: they're still like Corney Cox and why can't I think
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: of his name now?
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I almost said Jake Jellenhall and that's not that's not
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: right at all. Come on, you got this?
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Just tell me because it makes me crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know, I can't remember. Yeah. See David Arkette.
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  Speaker 2: David Arqutte, the two of them met on Scream, got married,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: got divorced, and they're still like, nah, this is our franchise.
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  Speaker 2: We're coming back. And they're like, still on really good
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: terms and continue to do the films together. And that's
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: actually really unusual because most people are like, nah, we
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: were married, I'm not going near you.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the same thing that happens in Dexter. You know,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter met on Dexter I
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: believe got married and then later divorced but still kept
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: doing the season. So yeah, that is extremely rare to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: happen and send them on TV and stuff like that.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that whole scene between them and the movie,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you could tell there was some definite emotion, like real
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: emotion behind that, that whole scene they had when they
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: met at the crime scene. Oh my god. Oh and
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: be prepared and that one they don't hold back from
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: killing people. So just get your tissues. God damn, I knew,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have put that trash down there. Just get your
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: tissues ready, bring those to the theaters. But yeah, I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: solid movie. Can't say my rating on it because it's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: gonna come up. What do you need, garage band, what
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: do you need?
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe we should get over to the movie because
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: we've been talking about this for one for fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Well we didn't start talking till about like five minutes then.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so definitely go see Scream. That is out
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: now in theaters and if it's in Dolby, go see
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: it in your local Adobe theater. I just want to
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: mention some movies that came in the mail recently, and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: then we'll move on to the movie.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: If that's cool, fine, But brief discussions on those movies,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: you drag that out.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, we do have some more time to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: fill with.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: We have to talk about this movie, and I'm ready
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: to talk about.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: It, all right, all right, all right, all right. Amidst
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: all of the stuff that came in here for highlights,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to mention I got troll Hunter, which we
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: reviewed on this podcast for five dollars. That was an
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: amazing find. If you haven't seen this, this is a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: great found footage either Swedish or Norwegian, I can't remember.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I believe it's Swedish. Great found footage movie. I got
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: The Sacrament, which is a ty West movie. Eli Rob
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: also presents this movie. Another found footage movie, and it's
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: got the guy I can't remember his name, but it's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: that guy from your next and he's also been in
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: The Signal. He's a really great actor. I don't know
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: what your name is, dude, I'm so sorry, but yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: The Sacrament is another it's almost it's I think it's
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: loosely based on Jim Jones and the whole Massacre, Jonestown Massacre. Yeah,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's loosely based on that. It's very,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: very good. I love watching this one. I got Titane,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: which is a film by the lady who did Raw,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: and I didn't get to see this last year when
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it was in theaters, so I just pre ordered the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Blu ray and it came in a couple of days ago.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So this is something I'd like to watch with you.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: We should probably double feature Raw and this, because you've
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: never seen Raw and that movie is crazy. Do you
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: want to see this or can I watch this with
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Spencer or what? Go for it, Spencer.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: The cover seems like a.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Lot fine whatever missing out And then last, but certainly
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: not least, we have vest run extras edition or collectors
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: series candy Man Day of the Dead. This is the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: third one, and I know this one's not great. I've
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: seen the reviews, but I mean, Tony Todd is still
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: in it, you know what I mean. So I'm like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I gotta at least give it a try. I've seen
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the first one, the original obviously, and the sequel candy
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Man Farewell to the Flesh, which is also on its
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: way here. That one was actually a pretty solid sequel.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It takes place in New Orleans, and it's like a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: really like it's obviously not as good as the original,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: but it's super fun. So and also this art on
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. Yeah, it's pretty solid. So I gotta
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: check that out at some point. But those are some
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: movies I got recently, Oh god, and I'm gonna throw
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: them at you. Then I'm excited to check out. And
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll watch Titanus Spencer whatever. Fine, cool, glad
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we settled that. Yeah, whatever, dude, All right, let's go
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: to the movie. Like I said, doing Brownstokers Dracula. This
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: is from nineteen ninety two, released on November thirteenth in
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the United States. This is rated R for severe sex
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: and nudity, severe violence and gore, severe frightening and intense
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and intensive scenes, mild profanity, and mild alcohol, drugs and smoking.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Did they do drugs in this? What drugs were they doing?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Oh shit? Oh that's right, I forgot about that. This
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: has a run time of two hours and eight minutes,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and you feel every second of this. This movie, oh boy,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: listed as a drama fantasy, horror, romance. We should also
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: just put uh, maybe Porno in there as well, because
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this movie is so fucking horny, just like just like
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Howard the Duck that we watched recently for the first time,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: first of all dumpster Fire. Also, it's such a horny movie.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We've been watching extremely like horny movies.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Lately accidentally and only watching the movie and we're like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: why is this movie so horny?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Horny? Uh? This is directed by a man named Francis
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Ford Coppola.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: You don't know him.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You probably have no idea who he is. He only
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he did these movies called The Godfather. I don't I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. You never heard of those. Obviously, we're kidding.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: That's sarcasm and good god. I mean, this cast, if
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: it's got one good thing, it's got a good cast.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'll give it that. Because we have Gary Oldman as Dracula.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, what, what hasn't this guy been in. He's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: usually a guy that you don't even recognize, like this movie,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: because he's got makeup on or he's got some sort
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of crazy hair going. But you probably know him as
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Gordon from the the Nolan Batman movies. That's probably the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: safest bet for people to pick him out in. But yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he's a fantastic actor. And then we have Winona Ryder
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: as Mina Murray Slash Eliza Betta probably said that terribly,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Lisa Beta. She was in Heathers as Veronica Girl Interrupted
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: as Susannah, but all you youngins probably know her from
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things as Joyce Buyers.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: She's also been in a shit ton of moviies.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I just tried to pick, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the main ones, but yeah, you probably if you haven't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: heard of those two movies and Stranger Things as Will's Mom.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Then we have Anthony Hopkins as Professor Abraham van Helsing
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: probably most are sorry, most notably as Hannibal Elector from
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal. But I mean
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he's done like one hundred and forty other fucking things,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: so he been acting too. Then we have Keanu Reeves
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: as Jonathan Harker, yet another person you probably never heard of.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You know, he did this thing called The Matrix and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: he was he was neo in that, I don't know.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Then we have Richard E. Grant as doctor Jack Seward Seaward. However,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you say that I did not recognize his name or face,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: but he has like also one hundred and forty fucking credits.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: You might know him from Gosford Park as George Question.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I would know you might also, I mean Little Vampires. Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: he was the dad and Little Vampires. He's one of
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: those guys who's also just did so many random things.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is in a whole bunch of random shit.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: That and like I said, did not recognize face or name,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but he been acting, that's for sure. And last, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: most certainly not least, we have carry Yules as Lord
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Arthur Holmewood. I first was introduced to him and saw.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I know that's probably not how anybody was introduced to him,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but you probably know him from Robinhood man in Tights
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: as Robinhood, or Princess Bride as Wesley, or again the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: other things he's done. He's been in Liar, Liar, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Been in in psych.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been in a whole bunch of shit. So,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I could have kept going with this,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I cut it off here because there's still so many
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: other people I could have mentioned, but I was like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: six is enough. So you've got a very star studded
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: cast in this, and one of them his heart was
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: not in it. We'll get to that. This had an
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: estimated budget of forty million dollars and a worldwide box
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: office gross of two hundred and fifteen point nine million dollars.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: This movie actually saved Francis Fort Coppola's production company or
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, yeah, I read that in trivia.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't put it in there because I wanted to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: mention it here, but yeah, that'll do it. That'll definitely
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: save a production company that's like one hundred and seventy
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: five million dollars in profit, So good for you. This
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: movie was filmed at Universal Studios, California, Culver City, California,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Sony Pictures in California, and the Saint Sophia Greek Orthodox
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Cathedral in Los Angeles from October fourteenth, nineteen ninety one,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: through January thirty first, nineteen ninety two. You can watch
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this on Netflix. Wait, that's not right. That's not right.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I think I misspoke. Stand by, because we watched it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Really?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, because we watched it on the four K
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that I had for some reason. I don't know. Let
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: me just double check for sure. I don't want to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: give you false information, Yes, Netflix, where you can rent
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it on Amazon and rent it on Voodoo, but I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: go with the free option on Amazon. So, like I said,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: we watched the four K movies that came out. Okay,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: listen to these movies that came out around the same time.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, holy shit. We have The Mighty Ducks, Reservoir Dogs,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the Original Candy Man, Doctor Giggles, Aladdin again, Original Aladdin,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Malcolm X Home Alone, Lost in New York, a Few
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Good Men, and the Muppets Christmas Carol. Imagine being alive
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: at this time when you can, like you know, I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: was obviously alive, but I wasn't going to the movies
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and having to pick from all of those movies, how
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: do you decide what to see? Go. I knew you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: were gonna say that, jeez, but yeah, that's a whole
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: lot of fucking amazing movies to come out around that time.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I thought that was impressive.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I was like two, so it probably wouldn't have seen
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: any of them.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Well, that's yeah, that's what I just said. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: all right. So I did you have a specific horror moment, ma'am?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Now, really, no, I really didn't.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I had, uh wherever it went, that's not it,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: where's fucking goddamn podcast. There we go, all right, So
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: my specific horror moment was wherever it went. Oh yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: when one of the characters. I will just say, when
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Lucy dies, all the blood that just spurts from every
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: corner of the room into the air. Completely unnecessary, but
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: fucking awesome.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He could say, when she climbs back into her crypt,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and they did it as or a verse shot. That
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Nice, Yeah, that's a guy. I didn't put that in
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the trivia because I knew you'd mention it and there
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you go. Do we have a favorite kill?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: There really wasn't enough kills for that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: You have one? No, Lucy's beheading it was fucking metal, dude,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that was so metal. That was her second death too.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Do we have a favorite I didn't have a favorite line.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: There was not really anything that was mentionable or funny.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So I did like the line that he said, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it's not really funny or anything. I just like the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: eye have crossed oceans of time to find you. Apparently
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that's what sold Gary Oldman ondoing the film is so
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: he could say that line to somebody. Yeah, I read
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: that I do like the line. That's a good line.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: My favorite character, van helsing Anthony Hopkins is pretty much
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: due to the fact of him being Anthony Hopkins. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: he killed it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was too chaotic for me, especially when he
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: starts like humping Quincy in a sarcastic motion.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Was it was a lot well, and to me, he
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: had the strongest performance because everyone kind of felt like
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: they were phoning it in and kind of had really
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: terrible accents, and Anthony Hopkins kind of already you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: he's already has the British accent. I think he put
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a little finesse on it or something to sound a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: little different.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: But he was being German so well.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That did not sound German. Jeez, but whatever, I mean,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he he had the strongest performance for me, Lee's favorite
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: or no, your favorite character.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it's Quincy, uh, but it's kind of Quincy and Arthur,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: because you got to think about this, There's three guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: who wanted to marry Lucy. She picks Arthur, but Quincy
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: still sticks around the whole time to be a supportive friend,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to be there to help her, and he is he
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: literally isn't even from the same town. He's from America,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and he still sticks around to be there for all
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of those people who he honestly should not actually know
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: that well, but he's just sticks around to be a
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: good guy. And him and Arthur just being buddies despite
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: being rivals. Yeah, I love it. I would have also
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: said Jack, but.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You get one, not three, lady.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's the buddy system. But John was kind of weird
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: with his morphine addiction. So it's really just Quincy and Arthur,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but mostly Quincy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Mostly cute. Okay. Least favorite character of mine was who
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the fuck? Oh Lucy? She was annoying and kind of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a horror if I'm being honest, kind of was getting around.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: That's sexist, that's not sexist.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They also wrote her to be way hornier than she is.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, sorry, let me reel that back. Okay, maybe
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: not like a horror, but she was like she was
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: all talk, but she did fuck the.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, but she was under his thrall, So keep in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: mind most of the time when that happens, they're not
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in control. They are being lured.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, she was making out with a lot of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: fucking guys and trying to make out with like one
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: person in front of her fiance and you're just like
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: l it in worst.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You can say she was a tease because she was
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: all tough.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Fine, I'll recant that she's just a tease. Whatever. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: didn't like her. She was annoying, and then I think
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, it was. Well besides your what
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: said your least favorite I'm trying to Yeah, have these
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in a different order. Least favorite character, everyone else, everyone else,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: anybody else?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, come on. Jonathan's non existent. Mina
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: is like seriously, yeah, priorities. Dude is well, we all
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: know what he is. Van Hilsing is very manic. Yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Jack's a jug addict, Rainfield is nutter, Butter's like Lucy.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: We already discussed that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I'm okay with that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only person who wasn't work looking off self
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: interest was Quincy because even Arthur, you know, he's interested
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: in saving his would be bride. Quincy's literally just there
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: as a friend.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You're like, I'm a friend. All right, that's fair, that's fair.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see here, So a brief brief description. Here, we
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: have the centuries old vampire Count Dracula comes to England.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: To subduce his barrister, Jonathan Harker's fiance Mina Muri an
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: inflict havoc in the foreign land bomb bom um. That's
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: what I said, Mina Murray, he said, Mary me, whatever
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: fucking want.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And in case you don't know, a barrister is as
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a lawyer, thank.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You for dropping that knowledge.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Not everybody knows.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I only know that because of a fish called Wanda.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Well now you know, yeah, well now everyone knows lawyer.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Things happen in a weird order.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Just start from sixty two. Oh crap, I'm gonna start
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: from fourteen sixty two.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. So Dracula is human wearing the dumbest armor of
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: all time. It's supposed to look so cool, but like
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it looks so impractical and also looks like it's made
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: of plastic.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: What did I say it look like?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He said, it looked like.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It looked like someone like like peeled stripes into a beat.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And he's supposed to look like muscle and tendons, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it just looks like red plastic armor. So he's going
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to fight a war with the Turks and his lady
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: love Elizabetha, who is played by Wenona writer, because why
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: wouldn't she be. Uh, it is so sad he's leaving,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: he is going and fighting in the war. He's gone
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: for a long time. And then in the meantime, apparently
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a bunch of rogue turks felt like being real dicks,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and they go to his house, his castle, shoot an
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: arrow through a window with a note that says he's dead.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Apparently Elizabetha is not entirely clear on war tactics or
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: that lies exist, because she just yeats herself out a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: window and into the river.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: That was my think, my favorite part of the whole movie.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Was just because she's not even she's not even like
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: flail falling. It's clearly like they have her pretending like
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: she's falling. Her hair's not even going in the right direction.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And then they're like blowing wind in her face and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: just recording her in motion. Because they use that scene
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: several times, you get a lot of a lot of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: shots of that exact scene several times over. So she
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: bites it and uh, she's laying and remember she's killed
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: herself in the river. She is shown dry laying in
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a pool of her own blood, but not really bloody.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: There's like a little dripple of blood coming out of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that's it, and again completely dry, laying on the steps
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: in the part in the cathedral, not the cathedral, the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: church part of the castle. And you know, Dracula comes
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: back and he is like, Okay, well, I guess we'll
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: be together in heaven. And a priest who is played
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: by Anthony Hopkins but has no further relevance than they
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: just decided to put him in there. I'm like, known
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a writer who's there's a reason she's playing that character,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Anthony Hopkins. They're like, fuck it, we don't need to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: hire two people.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Well, we were looking and we both said, what the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: fuck that's Anthony Hopkins, And I'm like, isn't he Later
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: in the movie, what the fuck exactly?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: He? The priest basically says that she will not be
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: admitted into heaven because suicide is a mortal sin. Seems
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: like bullshit, but whatever, and uh, if you're Catholic, yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian in general, not that's Catholic. Uh.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: However, Dracula loses his shit, starts smashing everything, jam's a
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: sword into a comically large stone cross that starts bleeding profusely.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: He curses God drinks the blood out of this blood
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: filled stone cross and then he's immortal. Yeah then just like.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the mortal. That would have been a perfect
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: song to play, right then I have inside my Blood
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of Kings. Do you not know the song?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: No?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I don't know.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Moving on, So that was bizarre and unnecessary. But then
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: we skip forward. We're in London where Jonathan Harker is
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: working as a barrister and he is replacing another barrister
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: who has come back to London a little less sane
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and a little more into eating bugs. That's Renfield, who
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: won't stop talking about his master, and it's very cryptic.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: But Jonathan has been given the task to go to Transylvania,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: meet the Count and get him to finish shining his
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: documents because he's buying up like ten different properties around London,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: which I will explain why later, because they don't really
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: address it in the book, I mean in the movie
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: they do in the book. So he talks to his
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: lady love Mina, who is an quick second. It should
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: be noted that Jonathan is played by Keanu Reeves, who
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think has even heard an English accent, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: had one described to him and just went off that
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: because yikes, he should never do that kind of accent again.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It's probably why he never did it again.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: This is the only other movie besides of shit, what's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the one where he was an asshole? Movie? Oh my god,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? Whatever that one was? Oh Mg, I
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: can't remember we reviewed it. Yeah, I know whatever. That's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This is like the only other movie that I'm just
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: not a fan of him in.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that one was more because he was an
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: asshole and I didn't and it was believable and I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: didn't like it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: No, I know, It's that was completely different thing.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: This was more of his acting, which is funny because
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I love Keanu Reeves any other time.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, he did terrible with that. But he goes
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to his his fiance Mina, and he's like, Okay, we're
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: gonna get married after I come back. I shouldn't be
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: gone very long. I just got to get this guy
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: to sign papers, and and Mina is running around with
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: her bff Lucy, who has the mouth of a sailor
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: hooker but is in fact still very like chased. She
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: just likes to talk and say dirty things and basically
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: just antagonize Mina for fun by saying things that will
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: make her blood. And so Jonathan goes. So we're gonna
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: focus on what Jonathan's doing and then we'll get back
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to London, because I think that's gonna be a little
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: less confusing for everybody. Jonathan goes to Transylvania, it's already
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: real sketch. When he gets there, he gets out of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: one of those So back in the day they would
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: take carriages as a group. It would be like a
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: ride share cat like carriage pretty much. That's how you
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: travel back in the day. You don't have the money
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: for your own coach. There are just coaches that go
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: by and you can all share pay for your seat.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And he gets out and this gypsy girl gives him
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: across says some weird cryptic stuff to him, and then
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: another old lady gypsy woman slams the door in his face.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So he's waiting at these crossroads for his next ride
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: where the Count's carriage shows up and he kind of
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: he doesn't really get into the carriage so much as
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: float into it, which was weird.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the hand kind of comes out and like guides
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: him in and it's just like he was on like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a little mini escalator, just zipping up.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm now, now that i'm thinking about it, I'm like
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: seventy five percent certain that, if I remember correctly, the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: guy running the carriage the coach was actually Dracula. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: mean probably, yeah, because in the book, he's like he
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: plays several different people. He goes by many different names.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It's hard to keep track.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: He's kind of also a man a man whore as well.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: He's kind of getting around as well.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Dracula, Yeah, you're eternal, what do you care?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I know, it's just funny because he's so after Mina,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: but he's like, I'm gonna have try to have sex
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: with Lucy and you and you and you're just like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: all right, and we'll.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Get to why later.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: In this movie.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they really like the horniness was subtext in the book,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and they decided to just make a text in the.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Movie literally subtitles. I'm just kidding.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: So Jonathan goes to the castle, meets up with the count,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: who is hella old and has hair that it can
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: only be described as boobs in the front and butt
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: in the back.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: So essentially, in eighteen hundred or was eighteen hundreds, right, yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds equivalent of a bullet.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funk.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It was super serious upfront, and then he turned around
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and had like this nine foot rat tail that was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: braided and just like wow, that is a lot.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And these two buns that were in fact butt shaped.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like Leah, like horribly wrong.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, horribly wrong. Yeah. So they're there. He's like, Okay,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: we'll go have you sign these papers, but first let's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: have dinner. Jonathan's eating, the Count's not, and he says
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: some shit that you know, he thought was real fucking
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: funny when he was like, I don't drink wine, Like, yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: here the height of humor, Jesus, and Jonathan he's just like,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: all right, whatever. And so they goes to sign the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: papers for all these properties and why there's ten and
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't really explain why, but Jonathan kind
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of asks and he kind of brushes it off. And
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: while they're signing papers, the Count's shadow is moving around
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the room out of sync with the Count. And this
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: was a decision by the director because he said that,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you know, physics don't really apply around vampires. Things are
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: just weird. So he decided to do this. Now, he
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: did that practically though, because there's a screen that's screen
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: printed to look like a wall and someone who's moving
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: around to create the shadows behind it, which was actually
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: really clever.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Clever or lazy by by saying nothing makes sense because
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: he's a vampire.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: No, I think he just wanted the movie to be
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: spookier and didn't quite know how to do that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's fair because.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: He makes movies like The Godfather.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So there we go.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: While he's signing papers and they're talking, the Count accidentally
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: spills some ink on what is a tiny picture of Mina,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: who again looks like the Count's lady love from four
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: hundred years ago, Elizabetha, and he starts staring at her,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and Jonathan's like, oh, you found a picture of Mina?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I thought I lost that picture? You like, the picture
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: that was sitting next to the papers you were signing
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: on a desk with like ten total items?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Did you lose it in the last five minutes? I'm
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: soaking the.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Last five seconds. It's literally been sitting next to your hand.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: What yeah, hello?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And the Count gets really weird about the picture. A
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: little too interested, and Jonathan's like, that's bizarre. But the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Count's like, you should stay with me for a month.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: And Jonathan's like, oh, do you want me to? And
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I want you to. So he does,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and in the meantime he experiences weird things like the
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Count gets really weird about mirrors, yells at him a
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: few times about the h the nobility of the Draculia
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: line and which seemed a little heavy but sure, and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: swings the sword around some and then tells Jonathan not
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: to go snooping around the house. So Jonathan goes snooping
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: around the house.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're just asking for it at that point.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me not to.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Do this where he finds a room with some vials
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: where the liquid drips upward and you got to imagine
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that's a bitch to clean.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And the biggest bed in existence.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's essentially a floor that's been made
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: into a bed where the three horniest women on the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: planet emerge. You probably if you know anything about Dracula,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: you know it's his brides who are all topless and
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: immediately start in on Jonathan, who again is like, man,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: you're engaged but like, also, they're vampires, and you get
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the whole vampire thrall thing. Sometimes you can't control that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: especially when there's three of them, I feel like that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And they're being forceful. You kind of just have to
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: let it happen at that point.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, and they're topless in a period where like
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: showing your wrist would be like whoo.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, saucy.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: So now we're just making excuses for the one man
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: who uh yeah, So they're starting to feed on him
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and Dracula puts the kabash on that one. He's like, no,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: he's mine, and you're like, pardon the way.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He flies in on that fucking platform though, just like
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that was pretty cool.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh he's They're like, so what, We're just
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: gonna starve and he's like, na, ladies, I got you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: a baby to eat.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was pretty.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Upsetting, which shockingly is really upsetting for Jonathan. And then
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: pretty much Jonathan's kind of just stuck there till he
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: makes it back to till he tries to escape and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: make it back to England. So we're not going to
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: hear about Jonathan for a good what hour later in
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the plot, because he kind of pops up for like
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: two minutes, and then he's gone till he he escapes.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: He isn't probably like the first twenty or so minutes,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and then yeah, maybe thirty minutes, and then there's probably
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: an hour where he's intermittently in there, and then he
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: eventually kind of comes back around after he escapes. So yeah,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: his part is odd.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, and he has been explaining that there are during
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: his escape. He explains that there are gypsy men who
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: will do the counts bidding, and they have been putting
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: a bunch of dirt from the basement of the castle
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: into a bunch of boxes, and he he was considering
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: using this as a way to escape.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I've got a box of diat Jesus, you knew it
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: what was coming.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And in the meantime, we go back to England, where
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Lucy's still trying to pick a husband and is freaking
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: out because she has now received a note from Jonathan
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that seems really cold and short, and he's basically like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I'm staying with the count for a month.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Brb fucking.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Your guns. Like She's like, this is weird and cold
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and not like him, and Lucy's like he's probably busy
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and speaking of busy, I have picked my husband. Yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: and she chooses to marry Lord Arthur.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Lord Arthur Holmewood.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh then she and Mina having a she
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: and Lucy. Mina and Lucy have an extremely bizarre uh
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: romp through the hedge maze. It's extremely unclear what's going
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: on in Lucy's backyard at her house because there's like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: a swamp and a hedge maze and an extremely large
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: crypt and yeah, so they go through it starts raining
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: and then they start running around in the rain together
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and then making out a little. And this is all
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: this is all coinciding with when the boat that is
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: bringing Dracula and his fifteen boxes a dirt lands in England.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And it's really funny because they're like, this is London,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: London with a great big cliff side. Oh yeah, as
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: we all know that London totally has with a big
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: ass house on it. So yeah, that that night, Lucy
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: is being called to buy something and into the garden
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: she goes, and Mina goes to follow her because she's like,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: where did you go? What is happening? And Lucy's wearing
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what could only be described as nineties lingerie in a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: period film because she's wearing this big, this huge red
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't lace up the front corset.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Lucy, Lucy, Lucy.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: H Mina is wearing purple.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: She's wearing like proper.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: She's wearing the style is proper, The material and the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: color are absolutely not.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: No, Yeah, but yeah, Lucy's definitely wearing something that is
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: not like period accurate.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: It's like a corset with a sheer skirt under it,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and like bikini bottoms and bikini bottoms, a lot of
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: girls wearing bikini bottoms a good one hundred years before
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: underwear were invented.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Well, no, because they well underwear bloomers, bloomers, Yeah, splits
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: down the middle so they could use chamber pots. Yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: not fucking bikini style cut underwear. What the fuck?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Frame, How would you get those off to go to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the back those dresses?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Like, so to take off nine layers of clothing just
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to get your underwear.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Which was funny because there was a point because the
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: style of dress they're wearing in the film has bustles,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: which is that big bump of fabric in the back,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and that is good, and that is a good seven
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: layers of like I think it's five to seven layers
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: of clothing like with petty coats and bloomers and all
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of that. And there's a point where Lucy stands up
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: and you can see the frame to her dress and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: her legs, like you can see straight through the dress,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: and you're like, not, not remotely, would that be a.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Thing someone really phoned it in on the on the wardrobe?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Was it pretty? Yeah? Was it accurate? Not right?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Not even so?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Lucy goes out into the maze and then she
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: uh Mina stumbles upon her fucking a werewolf bat kind
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of thing. It's like a wolf but not a wolf bat.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And like she's got one tit out, which seems to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: be a running theme with Lucy through the rest of her.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: She's got one boob out more than than not, honestly,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: it's like one boob which is always fucking.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, can anyone tie up her shirt a little?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Because like they're clearly not the right side.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Did they not have something equivalent to like a bra back?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: It would be a petty coat, like they would be
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: wearing a literal like dress under their dress.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're not wearing these like in this movie,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: they're wearing thin sheer fabric, which would not be a thing.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Even when you were going to bed, you would not
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: wear something like that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Correct, you would straight up be wearing like a dress.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, all these people that
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: are half naked with their robes open, You're like, this
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: is not how it would work. Think about priors of
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the Caribbean.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: That's a great example. That would be more what they'd
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: be wearing, not stuff that slides off the shoulder and
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: is made of shiny fabrics.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Say yeah, the second she just like like lifts up
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: in bed, it's like boom, and you're like, that's not
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: how this would work, ladies.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: And also there are no other women in this house anyway.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So Mina sees the weird humping, which is on a
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: bench in the middle of what appears to be a
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: stagnant pond. Again, no one knows what's going on in
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Lucy's backyard, and the thing that is humping her, which
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is clearly the count, looks over sees Mina and is like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: oh shit, and then goes don't see me. And then
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: suddenly he disappears and Lucy uh takes Uh. Mina takes
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Lucy and brings her inside and kind of wraps her
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: in some of her clothes because she's she's got a
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: tit out.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Just says she's been sleepwalking because she's known to do that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, And this is where Lucy's illness starts,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: her unexplained illness where she appears to be anemic with
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: no blood loss. So while this is happening with Lucy,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Mina is wandering around without a chaperone. I don't know
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: if chaperons are a thing back then, at this particular
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: time period, but still she's wandering her alone, unaccompanied, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: a strange man who is the Count, who is now
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: not old. He is young, with long brown hair, looks
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: fabulous and really bitch pair of sunglasses.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, looks fabulous.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Before sunglasses were invented. He now sees her, so she
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: then he looks over at her across the street and
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: goes see me, and now she sees him.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Sorry. All I could think of was, oh my God, God, God,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, what is wrong with me? The
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: fucking vampire found footage or the mockumentary what we do?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: So I could think of was him going see me
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: through the window, you know, Yeah, he's like knocking on
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: them like see me, Yeah, sorry, I thought about that. Yeah,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: we do.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: So he meets her as a smart woman. She gives
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: him the immediate brush off, like he's like, hey, hi,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm new to this country. Not interested, and she's like,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: he's like, I need I need help getting to this location.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: She's like, cool, that dude's selling maps deuces and she
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: turns and leaves, and then he appears in front of
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: her again and she's like what the fuck and then
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: he tries to talk to her some more and she's
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: like again, good luck with that. Bye, And then for
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: some dumb, dumb reason, she's like, Okay, that was like rude.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't rude. He's a stranger, and she decides to
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: go and go and escort him to the picture show
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and they're kind of getting weird and flirty that whole time,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: and uh yeah, this is the beginning of Mina's extremely
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: weird affair. He is he has introduced himself as a prince,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: so she just calls him my prince and she is
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: now like weirdly obsessed with him. They're going out to dinners,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: which makes her kind of a crappy friend because she's
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: like so busy lusting after dude while she's engaged, which
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: makes her crappy fiance, which again, it's probably the enthralling
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: thing and the weird.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Clearly she's the reincarnation of his loves, so it's probably
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: the past life thing.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: But there's also times where she's like.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Not interesting, That's what I'm saying.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: So it's very inconsistent, which was weird, and uh, fucking
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: pick a lane, bro.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And in the meantime, Lucy's fucking dying. She's in bed.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: She's a mnemic wanted out like as always.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Constantly has a boob out for some reason. Whenever she's
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: starting to feel bad, she goes into weird orgasm noises.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: They don't sound like noises of pain, they sound like
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: horny noises.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: And one of the guys she was going to because
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you had Jack, who's the doctor who's also writing fields,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: doctor who honestly, he's just not relevant enough to really
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: discuss him too much.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: He kind of was just like it was.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: He was there.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: It was like a side quest in a video game,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: like we could we didn't really need to do this, or.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: He's more in the books, and it's like they just
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: didn't want to write him out. Yeah, eating his bugs,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: eat bugs. Oh my god, that's that's what That's all
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: he did. And so you've got Jack, who's the doctor
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: who's trying to help Lucy. You've got Quincy, who's the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: man from Texas who was in love with Lucy, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: his friends with Jack and Arthur, mostly Arthur, and he's
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: just kind of there helping out. And then you've got
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Arthur who's like, what the fuck's going on with my
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: fiance Jack. Finally he cannot figure it out. So finally
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: he thinks that maybe it's psycho semitic and it's somehow
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: affecting her physically, and he's gonna go get a second
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: opinion from a teacher he knows of Van Helsing. They
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: bring Van Helsing in. It takes about twenty seconds for
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: van Helsing to be like, yeah, she's got these puncture wounds.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: There's no blood, but she's losing a lot of blood
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: and she's dying. Uh, vampires takes her too. It takes
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: two seconds for him to be like vampires.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Ah, yes, they see, we have vampire.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: And so we discussed that it was weird that Dracula's
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: clearly been visiting Lucy and clearly been transitioning her into
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a vampire. And the reason he is actually in London.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Originally they added the whole romance aspect because that wasn't
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: a thing, I guess, to give him a better reason
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to be in London, because in the original book, he
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: is there to spread his disease, so to speak, which
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: sounds really weird the way they said that, but that's
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: how they said it. He's there to spread vampirism. And
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: the reason he has so many fucking properties in London
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: is so that way he can do what he wants
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: all hours and always have a place to rest, because
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: even though this is not true with all other vampires,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: with Dracula, he must either be a he must either
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: rest in a coffin or in the dirt of his homeland.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Pretty much, there's a lot of funny shots of Gary
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: old Been getting upset in a box of dirt.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like stagnant, kind of just like and then.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: He'll wake up and be like, but he's like wiggling
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: his hands in the dirt.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Did we do that like in Perfect Harmony?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: So they finally are like they're they're not really on board.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: All the guys are like Van Helsing's nuts, he's not
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: a there's no such thing as vampires, and then vamp
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: and then Van Helsing while expressing this, uh, well, if
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: all reality isn't he or like, if it's something to
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: the effect of like, oh, if all the possible isn't possible,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: then the impossible is what what it must be exactly?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And then he does some sort of weird Houdini trick
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: which doesn't make sense because he's human, but whatever. And
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: one night Lucy is screaming.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: They finally see that something has come into the room
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: to attack her. Art has to leave for a little bit,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: so Quincy gets left to help protect her, and they're
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: all just watching out for Lucy, who you know, who
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: is just like getting meaner while she's getting sicker and
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: she's slowly developing things. Oh yeah, so while she's on
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: her deathbed. Uh, Jonathan, I know you were like, oh shit,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Jonathan was a person. He finally gets out, makes his
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: way to some nuns and is like, please meet me here.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: We'll get married and then we'll come back together because
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I cannot be left alone after the weird sex torture
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I've been enduring for months.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the last month because the brides were also
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: feed feeding off him. They're they're they're taking all a
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: lot of blood out but also keeping him alive so
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: they can continue to harvest. Yeah, very smart move, you.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Know, good job brides. So wait to think long game.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah you don't just uh fuck it up like what's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: his face? Did? And again, uh what we do in
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the shadows? And he bites the neck and the leg
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: it goes everywhere, and he's like, shit, that wasn't supposed
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to lay down paper like some newspaper or something.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Oh shitt.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: So Mina leaves. She she says to Lucy, hey, I
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: gotta go get Jonathan. I'll be back. Please be well.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Pisses Lucy off royally because there's a bunch of garlic
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: next to her bed and she slides it over and
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: then like Lucy loses her shit. So yeah, Mina goes
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: gets Jonathan, whose hair has turned. It's supposed to be white,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: but it will be for the film, varying shades of
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: gray depending on what scene we're in, but not a
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: consistent like it's getting gray or over the over time.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: It's like no one remembered to take photos to get
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: a consistent level of gray, or just put a fucking
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: wig on him.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, put a wig on him, yeah, because it's
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: like that. It's like if you do your hair for
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: a costume, like a Halloween costume, when you go to
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: spirit and get like the hair spray paint, that's essentially
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: what it looked like. Yeah, that's but like again, inconsistent
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and different from scene the scene, and you're just like, guys,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: a fucking wig would have solved this entire problem.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Oh and Mina also cuts things off with the print.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm sorry, gotta go be with Jonathan, which
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: is a weird move because she is clearly no longer
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: interested in Jonathan. She only cares about uh Dracula. She
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: literally doesn't give two shits about Jonathan, besides being like, oh,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I have to go save him, and that's about it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It was like, girls, just break it off, just go
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: get him, bring him back, break it off because there
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: was no reason for you to marry him if you're
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: that fucking obsessed with with another dude. It's just mean
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: at that point. So in the meantime, Lucy dies. Lucy dies,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and uh Van Helsing's like well, she's died one time
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: now and everyone's like, do what and they're like, yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: now we gotta kill her the same second time. The
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: second time where we we stak her in the heart
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and cut her head off, and they're like, can't she
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: just be dead? This amount?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I like in this one though, that because typically it
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: is just steak to the heart, right, yeah, And this
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: one they're like, no, no, no, we're taking that a
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: step above steak to the heart and behead, not one
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: or the other, both first the steak than the beheading.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I like that. That was pretty interesting. It's like zombie
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and vampire mixed into one.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lucy's wearing what was supposed to be her
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: wedding dress, but is the most insane costume that no
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: sane woman in the eighteen hundreds would have ever worn.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: It's got to take away that trivia what? No? Okay?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: So they go to the huge and I mean fucking
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: ginormous crypt in her backyard, which like literally it's by
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a pond and goes down a set of stairs. It's
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: like an underground crypt, and you're just kind of wondering,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: are we not concerned about flooding? And also, why did
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: you build it so low down. Above ground crypts are
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: pretty fucking common.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: No, gotta have my ship below ground, right out of
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the sun So probably because it needs to be out
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of the sunlight.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a This would be a family crypt,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: so it would have already existed. It's not like they
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: built an entire marble crypt.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: So she's in her coffin. They she's in her coffin earlier,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: but now they've gone back. They go to get the
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: coffin open. She's not there, bum bum bum. And while
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: they're like, what the fuck where is she? Uh? She
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: comes uh, just sauntering down the stairs like uh, nobody
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: was waiting on her with a kid in her hand,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: which is clearly dinner.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Should I just read that now then go ahead? So, yeah,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: she comes down with the child, and the little girl
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: who played the child is uh that was being carried
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: into the crypt by Lucy was genuinely terrified of Stady
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Frost and the vampire makeup, and obviously wasn't expecting to
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: do more than one take. Producer and director Francis Fortcoppola
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: had to do lot of sweet talking to the child
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: in order to get her back in Sadie's arms for
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: another go at the seed. So yeah, because I would
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: be scared of that costume as well. I was terrified
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: just looking at it now. Holy shit, imagine a young
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: child trying to like, I'm sure those tears were probably real.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she sold it. Yeah, it's an out of ten
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: for that kid.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: So at this case we get the whole. Lucy gets
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: got seen.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my that's the best killed. So good.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, there's a really cool shot of her
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: climbing back into her coffin, except they had done the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: shot in reverse, so it looks really weird. It's clearly
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: reversed shot, but it looks Yeah, I was just saying
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: it again.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, sorry, I was making sure I wasn't crazy.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, I swear you said that.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, now I've forgotten warm.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, we could probably just cut it there. We're like
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: almost out of time, honestly, hold on, let me make
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it to a well, I mean yeah, you can just
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: got a few more.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: So at this point Lucy's dead. Everybody's like, what the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: fuck's going on? Oh and in the meantime, while they
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: were busy killing Lucy, they put uh Mina in a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: safe space, which did not work out, and now she
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: has chosen to become a vampire because she is remembering
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: her past life with Dracula, and they have got to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: go fetch him and kill him if they're gonna save
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: her life.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, really a lot of people's lives.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but mostly hers, because she's in the middle of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: transitioning into a vampire and the only way to stop
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: it is to kill him.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Is to kill the Oh yeah, kill the original. Yeah
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: that's pretty.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Pretty basic lore, I mean for the most part. But yeah,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: so that's where we're gonna stop it there. Uh. Frankly,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: the movie's fucking wild. Everybody seems to be living on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: their own goddamn planet, and it is everyone's motivations except
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: for like, like I said, like Quincy. Everyone else's motivations
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: are so weird. I get honestly, I get Jack, Quincy,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: and Arthur. They all care about Lucy. Yeah, okay, but
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: like Jonathan is practically irrelevant after the first twenty minutes,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: and they may come out to be a bigger character
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: and then he basically becomes irrelevant. Nina is all over
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: the fucking map. Pick a direction, lady.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I mean she's got to sort out her priorities.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Seriously, Lucy is frankly just a fucking victim.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's fair.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Kind of just got it screwed over by being Mina's friend.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she didn't know her, she'd probably be okay, yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: probably probably good God. I mean, I don't even know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: where to start with this movie. For me, on my
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings, I guess I'll start with the camera work.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: It was very jarring and very very like sickening sometimes
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: when they would do the like when you know, when
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Dracula was like the werewolf speaking of let me go
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: down that rabbit trail real quick. Motherfucker can turn into
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like fog and missed and a werewolf.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Now, I think it was supposed to be more of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: a giant bat because he does actually become a giant
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: bat leader. And I think it was not a full transformation.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: It wasn't really clear.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of Dracula. I mean, you know, I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: know the lore can change a lot with vampires, but
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I've never personally heard. Oh you know, I thought it
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: was for me it was bats and smoke. That's all
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I knew. Ever, But now now it's fog and missed
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: in yesesh. Anyways, but yeah, the camera work was extremely
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: jarring at times, and they were also doing these very
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: odd overlaying shots where you'd be watching someone on the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: screen and then like Dracula's face would be looking down
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: in the background, but it's clearly an overlaid shot, or
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: his eyes at one point were in the background in
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the mountains. There's so many over laying scenes, and it
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: was it was just.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it was it's like a star trek with
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: the lens flares, we get it effects.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: And also then like the shadows were cool, but then
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: eventually I'm like, we get it. The shadows are all
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: over the place, like with his hand and stuff. So
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: it's just it's very bizarre. So yeah, and then that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: mixed with all the improper uh how how improperly people
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: were dressed. That was throwing me off a lot. And again,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: why is this movie so fucking horny? Holy cow? But yeah,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I mean the good things to note were most of it.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure actually all of it effects wise, besides
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: the overlaying was practical. So yeah, yeah, like the sets
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: were awesome. I really enjoyed all the makeup and costumes
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, even if they were inaccurate whatever.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: And then the acting for the most part was mediocre.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I liked Gary Oldman, I liked Anthony Hopkins.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Carrie Yules was good. But then you have h Keanu Reeves,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: which is in the trivia. I'll just go ahead and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: read that now since we're here. Keanu Reeves, you know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: had mentioned years after the movie came out that he
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: was just not happy with his work. He had been
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: working on like a bunch of movies, and this was
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: right on the heels of signing on as Jonathan Harker,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: and he tried to raise his energy for the role,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: but quote, I just didn't have anything left to give
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: end quote. And even Francis Ford Coppola goes on to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: kind of trail that with he has openly criticized his
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: own reasoning for casting Keanu as Jonathan. According to him,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he needed a hot young star to connect
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: with female filmgoers. So that's kind of why Keanu is
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: not great in this, and it kind of makes sense,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's just and then he also, uh, freaking
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: what's her face? Buyers? What's her Winona Ryder, she the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: accent just was not working for me at all. A
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people had to kind of phone in their accents,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: So overall, for me, I gave this a two. I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: don't know how in the holy fuck it has a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: three point six out of five just.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Before Copla directed it. And that's like, like, you know
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: what it is? Sometimes movies they get credit for having
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: a good name on it, and it's like, just because
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: someone's name is on it doesn't make it good.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I know. It's just weird because there's so many other
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: movies that I feel deserve better ratings because they're yeah,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: but this three point six. Like did I watch a
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: different cut of this movie? What was there a less
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: horny version?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just it's bad. I'm sorry. You can
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: hate me all you want. It's it's a In my opinion,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: it is just a bad movie. I tried liking it.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I really did, And this is the second time I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: watched it, and it was even worse the second time.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: The first time I gave it a three, I was like, Okay,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: that was good, and then rewatching it and I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: full star down. This is bad. So I gave it
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to what would you have given it? Or what did
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you give it? Two? Yeah, it's just it's just not great.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like I said, it's got a three two
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: point six out of five on letter Box and then
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: it's got like a seven point four out of ten
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: on IMDb. Ah, how does this? How does this happen?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, I mean I know what we're
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: saying is very accurate. You know, people, people who were
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: in it. Director, it makes sense, but yikes. So yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: do you have anything else to say on the matter
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: on the film.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, we also talked about it. We had to read
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: goofs because we were like talking about they're in here.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're doing trivia and goofs Now. And again,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: this is all from IMDb. Don't quote quote me if
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: these are actually accurate. They're just fun to read. True
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: or not, it's just all stuff that's listed in IMDb trivia.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: So Gary Oldman apparently hired a singing coach to help
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: him lower his voice by an octave to help him
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: give Dracula a more sinister quality. That's pretty cool. Good
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: on you for going the extra mile. At the first
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: cast meeting called by a produce and director Francis Procoppola.
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  Speaker 1: He got all of the principal actors and actresses to
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  Speaker 1: read the entire Bronstoker novel out loud to get a
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  Speaker 1: feel for the story. According to Anthony Hopkins, it took
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  Speaker 1: a whole two days to complete.
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  Speaker 2: Which is possible because the book is written in journal
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  Speaker 2: entry or in letter format. Oh yeah, so it's literally
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  Speaker 2: written from first person perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah. So when Mina went on, a
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  Speaker 1: writer recalls her previous life as Elisabetta. She says she
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: remembers a land beyond a great forest, which is the
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  Speaker 1: literal meaning of Transylvania is a land beyond the forest,
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  Speaker 1: or a land beyond a great forest. And that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea. Preview audiences are alleged to have
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  Speaker 1: found this movie to gory, so twenty five minutes of
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  Speaker 1: footage was cut out to make it less bloody. Kind of.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really need twenty five more minutes, but I
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  Speaker 1: would watch a twenty five minute extra gore cut for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it'd be a very brisk two thirty three cut out
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  Speaker 1: some of the can we do that? Can we get
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  Speaker 1: a cut where that exact thing happens, I will champion that. Steve. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So this is where it gets crazy. Here are all
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the people that could have possibly been in this movie.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Steve Bushimi was the first choice to play Renfield, but
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: turned it down. That would have been fun. Liam Neeson
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: was considered for Van Helsing, but after Anthony Hopkins, who
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: was still riding the success of Silence of the Lambs,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: showed interest, Neisson was ultimately turned down, and then Coppola
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  Speaker 1: wanted Johnny Depp to play Harker, but the studio wanted
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: someone who was more of a mainstream heart throb, hence
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: why Keanu Reeves was cast. Drew Barrymore was considered for
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  Speaker 1: the role of Mina, Charlie Sheen auditioned for the role
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  Speaker 1: of Jonathan Harker. Ian Dury was amongst those interviewed for
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Field, and Michael Keaton was considered to play Dracula.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just like a horrifying movie. Let me give
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  Speaker 1: you this, Let me just like listen to this. If
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  Speaker 1: we had this movie with Michael Keaton as Dracula, Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Sheen as Jonathan, Drew Barrymore as Mina, and Liam Neeson
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  Speaker 1: as Van Helsing and six Steve Bushimmy at Risk Ranfield.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like a dumpster fire.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Like those are all great people, but it would have
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  Speaker 1: been even worse. I feel.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine Drew Barrymore and Johnny Depp being love interests.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Well, Drew Barrymore, I said, Charlie Sheen,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: not Johnny Dap.
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  Speaker 2: You know I'm saying, Oh yeah, Jonathan har.
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  Speaker 1: So, that would have been a wildly different movie for
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: oh Man, so many reasons. So let's get onto the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: goofs here before we wrap this up. Something we already
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: spoke on. When Dracula bites Mina her twentieth century bikini briefs,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: never heard them said like, oh, I.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Said, I mentioned Lucy's because there was.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Two Oh okay, well you can yeah, you can see
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  Speaker 1: Mina's bikini bottoms that can be seen underneath her sheer
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  Speaker 1: nineteenth century gown. And again this is eighteenth century, so
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: you've got twentieth or nineteenth century sheer in twentieth century
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: bikini bottoms. What the fuck? During Lucy's and counter Jacula
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  Speaker 1: her night Oh yeah, here we go right here, Yeah,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: her nightgown blows in the wind and revealing the red
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  Speaker 1: modern underwear, but drawers were not wild or widely worn
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: in the West until then nineteen tens and again eighteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, there would have been pantaloon stockings, pantaloons stockings
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: with the crotch left open for easier useful of lavatories
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  Speaker 1: fancy word for bathrooms. Fashion in this movie, taking place
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety seven, was confused with the fashion ten
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  Speaker 1: years prior to this. Women wear a bustle at the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: rear of their dress, which gives them a very curved
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  Speaker 1: and big tush. Eighteen ninety seven, this fashion gimmick was
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  Speaker 1: way out of style. And that's the funny thing about
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: like the eighteen hundreds is like style, it's not like
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  Speaker 1: now where people kind of just dress how they want
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  Speaker 1: to dress. Like, if you were dressing something that old,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: you were probably poor. You could not afford the current fashion.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of funny how drastically fashion
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: changed in those years.
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  Speaker 2: It's very interesting, and some of them changed for weird reasons,
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  Speaker 2: but then like some of them were fucking safety has.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're a fire hazard walking around in that much.
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  Speaker 2: Cotton, or like some of the dresses where the dresses
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: used to get cinched really tight around the feet, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can't fucking walk in that.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: That's not yeah, it's not conducive for walking. Let's see
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: here in the beginning of the movie, we see the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: lights on Dracula's carriage as well as some of the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: castle lights. In the castle lights slash candles are twentieth
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: century light bulbs with some blue glaze. Again not time accurate,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: time period, whatever you wanna call it. When Jack Seward
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: is interviewing Ryanfield in a cell and is subsequently attacked
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: by him, Ryinfield bites him on the right side of
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  Speaker 1: the neck. When the orderlies run in to restrain Rhinfield,
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  Speaker 1: Seward grabs the left side of his neck as if
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  Speaker 1: it were in pain.
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  Speaker 2: So that's funny because I said that to you, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: didn't he bite him on the other side?
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  Speaker 1: So that's a goof. When Lucy gives Mina her ring
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: as a wedding gift, you later see it back on
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  Speaker 1: Lucy's hand. That's another fun goof. And then I'll get
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: two more here. When Lucy and Mina are in the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: maze running in the rain, you can see crew members
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: standing by. Heind Lucy during one of her laughing close ups.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I did not catch that, but that's pretty interesting. And
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: then the last one I found funny is when Arthur
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: is thrown backwards in his chair by Dracula in the bedroom,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the wire pulling the actor is visible. I thought I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: saw that, but I wasn't sure, and I didn't. I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: didn't say anything because I was like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that was a wire again. Seven point four out of
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  Speaker 1: ten on IMDb, three point six out of five on Letterbox.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: That is Brownstrokers Dracula.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh boy boy.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Apparently it is widely accepted by audiences, but not Frightmares approved.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this is the first unapproved movie of
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the year. Not recommending this one. I just can't. I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: own it on four K, though, so we can watch
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: that one. Ever we'd like, oh, never again, never again?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Probably So yeah, Hey, two episodes in one movie at piece.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: We're hitting our time. This is good stuff. Very excited
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  Speaker 1: for next week. I have no idea what we're doing
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: because I'm just flying by the seat of my pants
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: for this for this month. Once we get into February,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: we'll start planning shit and figure it out. We're just
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: kind of trying while running these one movie episodes, which
• 1:14:02
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• 1:14:09
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• 1:14:13
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• 1:14:16
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• 1:14:27
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• 1:14:32
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• 1:14:34
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