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Trusting Yourself Again: Discernment, Intuition & The Courage to Listen with Dina Berrin · Mediumship Sparks-The Next Chapter

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Speaker 1: Welcome to mediumship Sparks, where we connect more deeply with
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Speaker 1: spirit and source and follow the sparks of insight and
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Speaker 1: inspiration that bring us greater awareness, healing, and just more
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Speaker 1: flow into our lives. I'm Noel dean intuitive medium, licensed therapist,
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Speaker 1: and your host. The quick note before we begin. This
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Speaker 1: podcast is for educational purposes only and provides general information.
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Speaker 1: It is not medical or psychological advice and is not
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Speaker 1: a substitute for care from a licensed health profession I'm
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Speaker 1: so grateful we get to step into this together. Let's
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Speaker 1: dig in. Oh, big sisters are wonderful, so I feel
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Speaker 1: very for today. What's a nice note to start on.
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Speaker 1: If I have an older sister, I never called her
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Speaker 1: my big sister and mpath alert.
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Speaker 2: She passed about.
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Speaker 1: Two years ago, but we have a better relationship now
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Speaker 1: than we ever did. So I do feel for the
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Speaker 1: first time like I have that big sisters feeling, and
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Speaker 1: it's very precious.
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Speaker 2: I know that it's hard, and what a loe position
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Speaker 2: for you to be in now. I'm sorry that your
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Speaker 2: sister is no longer here on this plane, but the
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Speaker 2: fact that you have a relationship with her and feel
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Speaker 2: closer to her than ever is a gift within itself.
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I rebooted my podcast last August. It was her one
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Speaker 1: year anniversary of passing, and she was my first guest.
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Speaker 1: I was interesting before that when we connected there was
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Speaker 1: always a supervisor of one of our grandmothers who.
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Speaker 2: Would always been there.
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Speaker 1: There was one reading I did with somebody and their
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Speaker 1: mom had clearly had some mental health issues more like
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Speaker 1: personality disordered, so deeply seated stuff, and she showed up
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Speaker 1: with a supervisor like her best friend from life that
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Speaker 1: the client.
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Speaker 2: Knew very well and trusted. And I was like, huh yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I remember I was at my mom's house.
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Speaker 1: I flew there to let her know what had happened.
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Speaker 1: Neither of us were in touch with my sister for
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Speaker 1: many years. I remember connecting with her and my grandmother
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Speaker 1: there was there and I just saw the word supervisor
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Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that kept happening. But then
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Speaker 1: the one year mark, things had changed. My sister made
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Speaker 1: it clear that she has worked on her healing very
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Speaker 1: intensely so that we could do some of this work together.
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Speaker 2: So nice, and that she was able to communicate that
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Speaker 2: with you. Sometimes the healing is done after they leave,
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Speaker 2: but you're still here and this is maybe part of
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Speaker 2: the work that you're here to do in this lifetime.
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Speaker 2: So sure, yeah. How interesting the families that we come
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Speaker 2: from are. I always say that my kids are my
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Speaker 2: greatest teachers, but my family, they've taught me a lot,
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Speaker 2: and I feel really grateful for the fan that I've had.
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Speaker 2: We all have our complaints. Like that expression, if you
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Speaker 2: had the chance to exchange your life and your problems
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Speaker 2: with somebody else's thatap your's back up in a heartbeat,
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Speaker 2: because I had a deal with the crazy that I
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Speaker 2: grew up with. I'm training now, so I'm noticing your
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Speaker 2: book behind you. Oh yeah, can you tell me a
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Speaker 2: little bit about your book? Sure? My book is called
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Speaker 2: The Way with it Igniting your Intuition using Sacred Tools.
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Speaker 2: I have many sacred tools that I work with, but
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Speaker 2: this book is about three. One of them is taro,
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Speaker 2: which I always joke around that I speak two languages,
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Speaker 2: English and Taro, and sometimes a bit or a taro
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Speaker 2: that I have in English. Now numerology, which is woven
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Speaker 2: into the taro, and it's woven into life in general,
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Speaker 2: and charms, So charms you're my own personal system. I
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Speaker 2: felt very compelled to write this book. And I have
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Speaker 2: clients that have always said to me, you should write
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Speaker 2: a book on Taro. I'm like, you know what, there
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Speaker 2: are so many books on Taro, and there are so
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Speaker 2: many books telling you this card means. This card means that.
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Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I really do not feel
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Speaker 2: that the world needs another book telling you what the
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Speaker 2: cards mean. And I always have said to my little
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Speaker 2: metaphorical fan club that has been encouraging me to write
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Speaker 2: a book, I said, you know what, if I do
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Speaker 2: feel that there is something missing that the world does need,
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Speaker 2: I will step up. Right after COVID I've needed to
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Speaker 2: write a book. It's funny, like when I get these
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Speaker 2: feelings give her stand in the ocean and a wave
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Speaker 2: comes up from behind you, and this wave is so
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Speaker 2: strong it could push you down. Sometimes it does push
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Speaker 2: you down. That is the only way that I can describe.
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Speaker 2: This has been a feeling that I've had, not only
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Speaker 2: in writing my book, but it becomes so overwhelming, like
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Speaker 2: the push from behind, that I have no choice but
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Speaker 2: to step forward or be pushed over. So that was
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Speaker 2: the impetus that began my book. I wrote the book
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Speaker 2: that I felt that I would have really appreciated. Maybe
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Speaker 2: thirty years ago, I told my story and I gently
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Speaker 2: introduce these three divin nation tools. I try to weep
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Speaker 2: them together. And that's what I do with my work.
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Speaker 2: I weave my work together. So I don't believe that
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Speaker 2: tarot stands alone, that numerology stands alone, that astrology, that charms,
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Speaker 2: that palming intuition, none of these things stand alone. How
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Speaker 2: I read very often and how I work with people
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Speaker 2: is I start looking for patterns. So I have this
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Speaker 2: story that as in New York City, eagles are not
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Speaker 2: a common sighting here in New York City. It'd be
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Speaker 2: like a year ago or so. I was walking to
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Speaker 2: Central Park walking my dog and a person was coming
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Speaker 2: out of the park and they're like, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna believe it. There's an eagle in the tree.
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Speaker 2: And so I didn't know this person was, but we
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Speaker 2: were like, really, there's an eagle. So we both went
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Speaker 2: we looked at it. I'm like, wow, that's really cool.
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Speaker 2: And so then after I was walking back, I passed
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Speaker 2: by a magazine stand and on the front of the magazine,
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Speaker 2: on front and center in the magazine stand was an eagle.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. And then on my walks further, I
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Speaker 2: passed by the library and they have put books out
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Speaker 2: in front, like in the windows times in the library,
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Speaker 2: and there was something that had the word eagle on it,
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Speaker 2: and I said, that is so weird. In one day,
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Speaker 2: the eagle theme has showed up for me three times.
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Speaker 2: But a normal day, eagles don't even make the top ten.
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Speaker 2: I just feel like it's just not a thing. So
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Speaker 2: that to me, it was like, Okay, what does an
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Speaker 2: eagle mean to me? Let's think about the symbolism, and
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Speaker 2: let's think about the energy. Let's think about the message.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting a message here. So that is what
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Speaker 2: I call a pattern. When you see something or hear
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Speaker 2: something or notice it happens not once, not twice, but repeatedly.
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Speaker 2: It's like if somebody read a great book and they
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Speaker 2: refer they're like, oh my god, I read this great book.
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Speaker 2: You have to check it out, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: let me write that down. And then I talked to
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Speaker 2: somebody like maybe and say I read this great book,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's weird. That's the same. So when
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Speaker 2: I start to hear things again and again, and this
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Speaker 2: shows up also with clients, in readings, in coaching, in
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Speaker 2: whatever way that I am working, I do retreats and
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Speaker 2: I speak. Sometimes a topic will come up and people, well,
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Speaker 2: can you speak on this topic? Very often that topic
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Speaker 2: is intuition. It's usually when I start with a client,
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Speaker 2: I always say to them, what is your relationship with
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Speaker 2: your intuition? Some people look at me like I have
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Speaker 2: three heads. They have no idea what intuition is. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 2: now we're very beginner entry level here. I'll hear a
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Speaker 2: story or experience that someone had at lend them to
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Speaker 2: not trust their intuition. I like to start out there.
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Speaker 2: My intuition has been guiding me my whole life, and
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Speaker 2: I trust it quite strongly. And one thing that also
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Speaker 2: is a through line with me is I bring a
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Speaker 2: lot of curiosity. I'm always curious why are people the
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Speaker 2: way that they are? How did we become cynical, or
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Speaker 2: how did we become untrusting, or how did we become
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Speaker 2: angry or mean or resigned to this is the life
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Speaker 2: that I have to live. To get back to my book,
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Speaker 2: what I was trying to do is explain how these
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Speaker 2: tools can bring you back to yourself. They can show
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Speaker 2: you who you are. They can remind you who you've been.
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Speaker 2: They can connect you to your past, they can help
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Speaker 2: you create a clear path to your future. And they
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Speaker 2: can be so fun, engaging, insightful, and magical. And I
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Speaker 2: can add a million words to this. I have loved
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Speaker 2: this arena my whole life. I can't remember a time
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Speaker 2: when I've not been drawn to all things divination. And
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Speaker 2: I wanted to share it with people in a way
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Speaker 2: that made it bite size and easy to understand. So
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Speaker 2: each of the introductions I introduced the taro, I explain
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Speaker 2: how I got into it. I we have a few
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Speaker 2: funny stories my life into it. They can see that
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Speaker 2: I'm human. I've had challenges too. Just because I have
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Speaker 2: intuition and I can read all these modalities doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that I always take the right path or have the
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Speaker 2: correct answer. I'm learning like the rest of us. By
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Speaker 2: end each chapter with exercises and journal prompts. There's a
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Speaker 2: QR code within the book because I've created PDFs. You
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Speaker 2: want to dig deeper, here's something you can do. Go
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Speaker 2: to my pdf file. There's more about this available to you.
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Speaker 2: If you're still figuring out what intuition is and going
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Speaker 2: deeper might put you over the edge and send you
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Speaker 2: running for the hill because it's too much. Then not now,
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Speaker 2: that was the impetus to write the book, and that
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Speaker 2: was what the book is in the world. It's a
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Speaker 2: lot of me. It's my personality. People have said that
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Speaker 2: have read it. They say, it's like you're sitting next
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Speaker 2: to me speaking to me, And that's exactly what I
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Speaker 2: wanted it to be. So that is where it came from.
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Speaker 1: I love that you add these extra PDFs and links
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Speaker 1: so people can really go even more in depth.
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Speaker 2: And your website. I saw logs about Tarot cards so
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Speaker 2: cool to read.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to remember the name of the card,
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Speaker 1: but you were saying that there was a client who
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Speaker 1: looked at that and said, oh great the patriarchy, and
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Speaker 1: you're like, hold on, and you talk about this is
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Speaker 1: very different way to interpret the cards. I have friends
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Speaker 1: who use tarot as a prompt but really go off
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Speaker 1: on their intuition. There can be a lot of creativity
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Speaker 1: that gets applied when you use tarot.
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Speaker 2: I love that you're.
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Speaker 1: Talking about the culmination of all these skills and tools
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Speaker 1: that you have and how they come together because you're
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Speaker 1: a whole person. You examined these different tools because you
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Speaker 1: had the genuine curiosity to figure out, like what can
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Speaker 1: I do with this?
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Speaker 2: And then it all blends together. When you're talking about patterns.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting that you call them patterns, because I think
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Speaker 1: some people might look at those things, like the eagle
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Speaker 1: is a great example, and just consider those synchronicities. But
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Speaker 1: when you use the word pattern it almost sounds a
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Speaker 1: little bit more legitimized. In my ears, at least I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought of saying it that way. That's a
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Speaker 1: brilliant way to say it, because it is how it
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Speaker 1: shows up.
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Speaker 2: It is actually a pattern.
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Speaker 1: Synchronicity adds an extra woo factor, and you can discount
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Speaker 1: yourself if you're not sold on following the lead of
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Speaker 1: these patterns or synchronicities and seeing something's going on that
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing three eagles in one day in New York City.
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Speaker 2: It's true some people have been brought up to that
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Speaker 2: this is the devil's work, that this is nobody follows us.
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Speaker 2: If people are skeptical and they are not interested in
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Speaker 2: going along with my thought processes, I am not here
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Speaker 2: to twist arms and convince people that they should believe
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Speaker 2: things that they don't. I don't walk through life looking
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Speaker 2: for ways that my wo or that my insightful or
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Speaker 2: intuition spidy skills can be used. I lead with curiosity.
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Speaker 2: I lead with oh, that's really interesting that this thing happened.
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Speaker 2: And instead of shrugging it off and acting like it's
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Speaker 2: not a big deal, I'm just like, what if there
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Speaker 2: was a message with that? What could I do with
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Speaker 2: that message? So again, some people see things and they
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Speaker 2: think a certain way the card might have been the Hirofant. Okay,
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Speaker 2: the Hirofant is one of my birth cards. A one
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Speaker 2: birth date in this lifetime, and you have one set
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Speaker 2: of birth cards that come along with your birth date
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Speaker 2: and when it's again. How you find that is through numerology,
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Speaker 2: and all of the birth cards except for one, are
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Speaker 2: two cards, so the sets are two, and so the
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Speaker 2: Hirofant is one of my cards. And it's funny because
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Speaker 2: when I first started learning taro, the fan was one
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Speaker 2: of the cards that I had a very hard time understanding.
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Speaker 2: The first deck that I read was a mythical tarot deck.
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Speaker 2: It was called the Mythic Tarot. Every story the deck
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Speaker 2: was a myth. So the story of the hiro fant
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Speaker 2: in that deck was the story of Chiron. He was
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Speaker 2: a half man, half beast centaur, and what happened was
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Speaker 2: he was shot with an arrow that hid his achilles
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Speaker 2: tendon and he couldn't heal from it. So he was
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Speaker 2: the wounded healer. He could no longer do what he
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Speaker 2: did out in the world because he was wounded, so
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Speaker 2: he began to teach the lesson of the hirofant is
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Speaker 2: teaching from our wounds. Everybody comes to this work differently.
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Speaker 2: My first teacher used the mythic deck and I was
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Speaker 2: in awe of all these mythological stories. Fan really stayed
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Speaker 2: with me. It was so interesting. It's like the things
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Speaker 2: that you are challenged by in the world, the things
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Speaker 2: that have wounded you, or as a place is where
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Speaker 2: the light comes through, and that is how you are
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Speaker 2: meant to shine in the world. And it just really
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Speaker 2: stuck with me. I hate to tell people, no, that's
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Speaker 2: not what that card is about. When people say to me,
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Speaker 2: what are the rules with reading taro or numerology or
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Speaker 2: charms or whatever, and I like to say, the rules
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Speaker 2: are there are no rules. If you want to travel
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Speaker 2: on an airplane, you have to go through security there's
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Speaker 2: just no way around it. If you want me to
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Speaker 2: tell you the secret to getting into the airport without
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Speaker 2: having to go through through security, I don't have that trick.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that way. If you are just looking
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Speaker 2: to read a card and something comes up for you
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Speaker 2: in the card, then go with it, because that is
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Speaker 2: your intuition talking. I do not want to push anybody down,
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Speaker 2: or stunt anyone's growth or stop their wheels turning. I'm
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Speaker 2: looking to encourage people to use every part of themselves
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Speaker 2: in delivering the message. So if you think that it's
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Speaker 2: the patriarchy and something came up in you, what I
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Speaker 2: would say is that's interesting. Now I'm curious. Tell me more.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's not true, but let me add
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Speaker 2: on that for you. Like in the world of improv,
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Speaker 2: it's a lot of yes. And I'm a certified life
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Speaker 2: coach and a lot of what we learn in coaching
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Speaker 2: also is to do the yes. And another thing that
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Speaker 2: I've blend together is my coaching and my use of divination.
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Speaker 2: So when people say to me, oh, that's the patriarchy,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, and what else is it? What else
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Speaker 2: do you see? And what in the image brought you
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Speaker 2: to that decision. I'm always very interested by what people
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Speaker 2: point out and notice a lot of times, when we're young,
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Speaker 2: that's when our subconscious mind is formed, when we are
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Speaker 2: taught to think a certain way. Unless we do like
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Speaker 2: a reboot on our internal systems, we bring those thoughts
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Speaker 2: into our adult life. If you've always been taught that
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Speaker 2: this is weird and that only a certain type of
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Speaker 2: people get terror readings or do this type of work,
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Speaker 2: then when you show up, you're already on guard. You're
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Speaker 2: already looking for ways to pogue holes and to make
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Speaker 2: a problem out of this. Sometimes when we first sit
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Speaker 2: down together, people start pointing out all the negative things
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Speaker 2: and listen, that's an approach. Then my question is how
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Speaker 2: do you do this in other areas of your life
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Speaker 2: as well? And what would happen if you opened yourself
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Speaker 2: up to a new perspective and it didn't have to
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Speaker 2: be that way. What if what you think is true
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Speaker 2: but something else is true as well. It's possible for
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Speaker 2: two things to be true at the same time, or
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Speaker 2: maybe the thought that you have is a little outdated.
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Speaker 1: I could see why you would love coaching. Your natural curiosity.
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Speaker 1: You're looking for insight but really looking to inspire people
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Speaker 1: to be more insightful about themselves.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I know that's what you do with therapy. Also,
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Speaker 2: because I am not here, even though people come to
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Speaker 2: me for readings, my readings are not to give you
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Speaker 2: an answer. I consider myself a storyteller. Also my readings,
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Speaker 2: I lay out the parts and I'm like, ooh, here's
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Speaker 2: a story, and this is what I see. This is
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Speaker 2: the picture that I'm showing. And I just did a
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Speaker 2: reading the other night, and I could see that this
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Speaker 2: woman who I was doing the reading for, she was
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Speaker 2: going through a transition in her life and she was
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Speaker 2: starting to set boundaries, and all of a sudden she
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Speaker 2: could understand why a lot of the people that she
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Speaker 2: thought were her tried and truth that were her rider
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Speaker 2: dies were all of a sudden not around as much.
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Speaker 2: And I said, it sounds like you're drawing lines in
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Speaker 2: the sand and you're setting boundaries with your life. And
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Speaker 2: she's I can't just keep doing for everybody all the time,
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Speaker 2: and so they think you can. I said, what happens
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Speaker 2: is as we grow and we change and we shift,
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Speaker 2: we begin to see things differently. And I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to tell her those people. You're a giver, they are takers,
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Speaker 2: and very often the givers of the world are found
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Speaker 2: by the takers of the world. And we need to
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Speaker 2: set boundaries or else we'll just never get anything done.
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Speaker 2: We were just talking it out. She said, you know what,
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Speaker 2: I think that I need to shed the skin. I
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Speaker 2: need to make them a part of an old story,
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Speaker 2: and I need to start a news story. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I am all for this new story. It's not my
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Speaker 2: job to be like time for a new story. It
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Speaker 2: has to come from the client or the current or
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Speaker 2: whoever is coming for coaching or reading.
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Speaker 1: I can appreciate that supporting people with self trust and
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Speaker 1: if you provide answers and people think you have access
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Speaker 1: to better information than they do because you're tapped in,
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Speaker 1: then it would be easy for them to keep coming
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Speaker 1: back to you for those answers. You're looking to help
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Speaker 1: people in your interactions be more expansive.
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Speaker 2: And now you're.
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Speaker 1: Bringing it back to supporting people but not giving advice
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Speaker 1: or telling them what to do or being directive, because
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Speaker 1: that's about you. And that's a power trip that we
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Speaker 1: never want to be on, because we do want to
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Speaker 1: support people to have a much better, better sense of
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Speaker 1: their own agency like compass agency, and absolutely self trust
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Speaker 1: is in this work. It's at the heart of all
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Speaker 1: of it, because if you don't have that, you can't
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Speaker 1: do it. Not that I think everybody, anybody who's listening
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Speaker 1: to this podcast is necessarily looking to do this kind
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Speaker 1: of work. It might be that they have a fascination
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Speaker 1: with this kind of work and they appreciate getting readings
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Speaker 1: and all of that is beautiful. But even with that,
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Speaker 1: you have to bring your own self trust and discernment
19:30
Speaker 1: to who you choose.
19:30
Speaker 2: To interact with.
19:32
Speaker 1: About this, thirty something years ago, I was very scammed
19:35
Speaker 1: by a psychic woman. I had no real sense of
19:38
Speaker 1: myself At that time in my life. The idea of
19:41
Speaker 1: trusting myself would not have even registered.
19:46
Speaker 2: So I had learned through fire.
19:47
Speaker 1: I had to do a lot of rebuildings since to
19:50
Speaker 1: be somebody who trusts myself. You said something earlier that's
19:53
Speaker 1: sticking with me, Is it okay? If we talk a
19:55
Speaker 1: little more about you. You were talking about your intuition
19:57
Speaker 1: and you said you trust it quite strongly. I noticed
20:00
Speaker 1: that you didn't say I completely trust it.
20:04
Speaker 2: I trust it. I do trust myself very well. I
20:08
Speaker 2: have a feeling for things I have in station, and
20:11
Speaker 2: feelings for things I lean into my intuition. I have
20:15
Speaker 2: my husband and children. Sometimes the decisions that I make
20:19
Speaker 2: needs to be a group decision. I'm not completely my own.
20:23
Speaker 2: Another thing is that sometimes you get put into a
20:26
Speaker 2: situation that you have never been in before. Sometimes I
20:31
Speaker 2: don't know the right thing to do because I have
20:35
Speaker 2: no foundation or track record or context or want exactly.
20:42
Speaker 2: There's no contact. So in those situations I have to
20:46
Speaker 2: lean into other things. So I don't say that I
20:49
Speaker 2: trust it implicitly, because when I don't know something, you
20:54
Speaker 2: have to go in and just be like, all right,
20:56
Speaker 2: I want to fly by the seat of my pants.
20:57
Speaker 2: I'm just going to have to be in the moment
20:58
Speaker 2: and see what happens. When I was in my twenties
21:01
Speaker 2: and even in my thirties, I would freeze. I really
21:04
Speaker 2: did not like being uncomfortable. One of the things that
21:07
Speaker 2: really opened me to being uncomfortable was my coaching training.
21:13
Speaker 2: Because nothing changes if nothing changes, so I have begun
21:19
Speaker 2: to lean into the discomfort. I'd begin to be comfortable
21:24
Speaker 2: being uncomfortable, and that has definitely had its upsides. I
21:30
Speaker 2: have to say I feel very grateful that I have
21:35
Speaker 2: had this training. Sometimes I don't know where my feet
21:38
Speaker 2: are going to land, and because I've done it a
21:41
Speaker 2: few times and I've landed on solid ground, I now
21:45
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable doing that. Sometimes that works, and sometimes
21:51
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, we're gonna have to do it again.
21:53
Speaker 2: We'll try it again. That's why I says I chucked
21:55
Speaker 2: it strongly, because sometimes it's not always about intuition. Sometimes
22:00
Speaker 2: the thing that feels very intuitive is the safe thing,
22:05
Speaker 2: not the right thing.
22:06
Speaker 1: On your website, you talked about anxiety versus intuition, and
22:10
Speaker 1: anxiety has an urgency to it and intuition doesn't. What
22:14
Speaker 1: you're also talking about is this deeper layer of actually
22:17
Speaker 1: being just a human being. You have your way that
22:19
Speaker 1: you want things to unfold, and when they don't, it
22:22
Speaker 1: can be triggering. And with intuition, this is why it's
22:25
Speaker 1: easier to do readings on other people. You can be neutral,
22:29
Speaker 1: but when you have children and something comes up that
22:31
Speaker 1: provokes some anxiety about your children, because how would it not.
22:35
Speaker 1: There's a lot of factors all happening at the same time.
22:38
Speaker 1: Nobody's above being a regular human being, and there are
22:42
Speaker 1: times when it's hard to discern when you're feeling that trigger.
22:46
Speaker 1: It's hard to discern intuition from anxiety because maybe the
22:49
Speaker 1: pulsing in your body is just loud. And then how
22:53
Speaker 1: do you try to when you're triggered like that, remove
22:57
Speaker 1: the energy of the anxiety. Maybe not like go of
23:00
Speaker 1: the concerns, because they're legitimate, but the.
23:02
Speaker 2: Energy or the.
23:05
Speaker 1: Like the vibration that doesn't support you trying our best
23:09
Speaker 1: when we can.
23:10
Speaker 2: To try to let that go. But it can be
23:12
Speaker 2: really complicated and is complicated, and do you find that underneath?
23:17
Speaker 2: I feel like the anxiety is like very much like
23:22
Speaker 2: chest breathing. Allo. Another little tool that I've begun really
23:25
Speaker 2: working with a lot is your body. Your body has
23:30
Speaker 2: the answer. I have a little exercise that I give
23:34
Speaker 2: clients or in speaking engagements, and this is very simple.
23:37
Speaker 2: We can do it right now. I think that what
23:39
Speaker 2: happens is we often say yes to things that are
23:43
Speaker 2: truly nos in our lives, and we waste a lot
23:46
Speaker 2: of our time and our energy, and then we're very
23:48
Speaker 2: frustrated because we're locked into things that we don't want
23:51
Speaker 2: to be doing. So, Noel, I want you to tell
23:54
Speaker 2: me something that you love more than anything in this world.
23:58
Speaker 2: It lights you up, it makes you smile, and it's
24:00
Speaker 2: always a yes. What is something that is always a yes?
24:05
Speaker 2: And you love it? The only thing that I could
24:08
Speaker 2: picture is my cat. Cupcakes, cupcakes, and you're smiling right
24:12
Speaker 2: now for those that can't see your face. So tell me, Noel,
24:15
Speaker 2: the idea of Cupcake and when you see her and
24:18
Speaker 2: spend time with her, how does that feel in your body?
24:24
Speaker 2: I've never thought about this.
24:26
Speaker 1: It's like I can feel the love oozing from me
24:29
Speaker 1: and it's such a beautiful feeling, wonderful.
24:33
Speaker 2: So Cupcake, your cat is what I call your full body. Yes,
24:39
Speaker 2: that is what yes feels like. All right, I'm just
24:42
Speaker 2: gonna give you a different scenario. Paper next door comes
24:46
Speaker 2: knocking on your door. It's like, Noel, listen, I have
24:50
Speaker 2: this really big, stinky bag of garbage. It's so heavy
24:56
Speaker 2: I can't even move it, and it's stinking up my house.
25:00
Speaker 2: I have to get it out and I can't drag
25:02
Speaker 2: the bag by myself. Will you come and drag this awful, stinky,
25:06
Speaker 2: heavy bag of garbage with me out to the curb
25:09
Speaker 2: right now? Tell me how does this new little offer
25:15
Speaker 2: us onto you?
25:18
Speaker 1: I would say, yes of quote, I would be grossed out,
25:22
Speaker 1: a hyper aware of all of the ick factors about it.
25:26
Speaker 2: A lot of times when people approach us and they're like, hey,
25:29
Speaker 2: can I give you this work project that I don't
25:31
Speaker 2: have time for? Can I just dump it on you?
25:34
Speaker 2: Or will you run the carpool? Today people ask for things,
25:38
Speaker 2: and in general we feel bad saying no. Your gut
25:42
Speaker 2: is getting a little not here. I'm feeling a little
25:45
Speaker 2: bit of resistance, like your body is telling you, but
25:48
Speaker 2: your mind overrides you. And if you were a good neighbor,
25:52
Speaker 2: or if you were a good colleague, or if you
25:54
Speaker 2: were a good friend, you would say yes. We say
25:57
Speaker 2: yes to things that we don't want to do. This
26:00
Speaker 2: exercise is saying when you are asked to do something,
26:04
Speaker 2: I understand sometimes for family or for work you just
26:07
Speaker 2: got to take one for the team and dug it
26:09
Speaker 2: up and do the thing. But for the most part,
26:12
Speaker 2: for your free time and for how you want to
26:15
Speaker 2: spend your days, if somebody asks you to do something
26:20
Speaker 2: and it doesn't feel like cupcake, then it's a note.
26:26
Speaker 2: I'm a believer that our bodies have the answer. I
26:31
Speaker 2: also believe that it is sometimes hard for us to
26:34
Speaker 2: listen or do the thing that our body is telling us,
26:38
Speaker 2: because our mind logically is doing the math so to speak,
26:44
Speaker 2: and saying am I going to be judged for this?
26:46
Speaker 2: Am I going to be labeled something? Am I going
26:48
Speaker 2: to not be invited back again? Or whatever it is
26:51
Speaker 2: that you are worried about. Think about how much time
26:54
Speaker 2: you spend saying yes to things that are actually knows
26:58
Speaker 2: and what could you do with all that time and
27:01
Speaker 2: energy and focus if you had that time. I love
27:06
Speaker 2: this example.
27:07
Speaker 1: So first of all, when you're talking about the neighbor thing,
27:10
Speaker 1: You're right, the pressure in my head of I want
27:12
Speaker 1: to be a good person is very loud. So there's
27:15
Speaker 1: obligation versus freedom. So if I was asked that question
27:19
Speaker 1: and if I was like, no obligation to do that,
27:22
Speaker 1: so I could say yes or no freely, then it
27:25
Speaker 1: would be a very different answer. And I learned to
27:27
Speaker 1: use muscle testing, where I ask the universe for a
27:30
Speaker 1: yes and a no.
27:32
Speaker 2: What is my yes? What is my note?
27:33
Speaker 1: And then I use that to discern answers to questions
27:37
Speaker 1: is it right for me to eat this?
27:38
Speaker 2: To go here? I was doing that with every decision.
27:42
Speaker 1: Hey, for you it was, But what I've slowly realized
27:46
Speaker 1: and gotten some feedback about, is that I'm bypassing my
27:50
Speaker 1: own ability to make decisions, thinking I just want to
27:52
Speaker 1: be as connected as possible, That's why I'm doing this.
27:56
Speaker 1: But I was bypassing the meed that I still had
27:58
Speaker 1: to learn to trust on an even deeper level, because
28:02
Speaker 1: that's been a huge part of my journey. So I
28:04
Speaker 1: was bypassing myself. And so I am just now starting.
28:09
Speaker 1: I'm going to call it now the cupcake test, where
28:11
Speaker 1: I'm not asking somebody outside of myself to make the
28:15
Speaker 1: decision for me, and I am feeling in my.
28:17
Speaker 2: Body, which is really a very different process. Right.
28:22
Speaker 1: It's freeing, and it's also I'm bringing back to my
28:25
Speaker 1: own sense of self, like my own core of myself,
28:29
Speaker 1: which I didn't realize how separate I was. When I
28:32
Speaker 1: do readings, I always check in, hey am I getting
28:35
Speaker 1: this right? I'm asking the person in spirit or my
28:37
Speaker 1: client's spiritual team, Hey am I getting this right?
28:41
Speaker 2: From you all? But when it's something for myself, I'm
28:45
Speaker 2: training myself to do exactly what you describe. And I
28:48
Speaker 2: love the cupcake test. I hadn't thought of it that way,
28:51
Speaker 2: but you're right. We do feel it?
28:54
Speaker 1: Oh what a yes, feels like you feel it in
28:56
Speaker 1: different places in your body, but it is a lot clearer,
28:59
Speaker 1: but you have to.
29:00
Speaker 2: Be willing to listen.
29:02
Speaker 1: And not everybody has trained themselves that way or might
29:06
Speaker 1: even feel safe doing that.
29:08
Speaker 2: And so often we want validation for the decisions that
29:13
Speaker 2: we make, and we look to other people to give
29:18
Speaker 2: us that validation. Who are these people that were even
29:21
Speaker 2: seeking out approval from Yeah, as exactly I decide if
29:26
Speaker 2: you want this or not. Yeah, I'm with you on
29:28
Speaker 2: this self trust journey. It's huge for every area of life.
29:33
Speaker 2: And you also talk on your website how women are
29:35
Speaker 2: socialized to be more collaborative than self focused or self referencing.
29:42
Speaker 2: In this kind of way, we are.
29:45
Speaker 1: Looking to please people, work with other people, accommodate other people,
29:50
Speaker 1: coming back to ourselves as if we are the authority
29:53
Speaker 1: of us. See, like you were saying, so many women
29:56
Speaker 1: put themselves last.
29:57
Speaker 2: On their list. They're putting everyone and they're getting everything
30:00
Speaker 2: done for everyone, which is why at the end of
30:03
Speaker 2: the day their battery is on empty. I think safety
30:07
Speaker 2: for women is number one. If I don't feel safe somewhere,
30:10
Speaker 2: then I don't want to be there. That's a big topic.
30:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I never thought of it quite that way,
30:16
Speaker 1: but that is spot on.
30:17
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm telling you too many memes. Do
30:19
Speaker 2: you have the guy I spend all my time with? Please?
30:21
Speaker 2: I'm knowing all of them so far. So there is
30:23
Speaker 2: a meme a world with no men and then the
30:27
Speaker 2: husband says to the wife, who would protect you if
30:29
Speaker 2: there were no men? And she said to him, who
30:32
Speaker 2: would I need protection from? It's you are the people.
30:36
Speaker 2: As much as I love my husband, there's a lot
30:38
Speaker 2: of men that are predators out there. That's a very
30:40
Speaker 2: big topic, a very deep topic, the need to feel
30:43
Speaker 2: safe and what you're willing to do. And some people
30:46
Speaker 2: give that away when I describe the act of people
30:49
Speaker 2: pleasing an overgiving of yourself, and a lot of women
30:52
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, that's what I do, and I'm like,
30:54
Speaker 2: who does that for you? And then usually I get no,
30:59
Speaker 2: no one. You're so busy filling everyone's cup while your
31:02
Speaker 2: own cup sits empty. And that's why I want to
31:06
Speaker 2: empower women to set boundaries. Yes, it is nice to
31:10
Speaker 2: give I understand not all relationships are going to be
31:12
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, but you shouldn't have a ninety ten,
31:16
Speaker 2: and even if it's ninety ten, like maybe somebody's going
31:18
Speaker 2: through a really hard time and it's a season. It
31:20
Speaker 2: shouldn't be like that all the time. It's hard for
31:24
Speaker 2: women more so than men, to walk away. I feel like.
31:28
Speaker 1: You're capturing the essence of your work, which is really
31:31
Speaker 1: supporting people coming back to themselves in a deep, spiritual
31:36
Speaker 1: kind of cellular way, and you don't realize that you're
31:38
Speaker 1: as stuck in it as you are, because we are
31:41
Speaker 1: really taught that and we're so reinforced for that. Men
31:44
Speaker 1: have their own stuff. This is our stuff creating that
31:48
Speaker 1: we're a good person because we sacrifice or whatever we've
31:51
Speaker 1: got in our heads that we were taught implicitly or
31:54
Speaker 1: explicitly to be that way, to be thought of as
31:58
Speaker 1: a good person, to think of ourselves as a good person.
32:00
Speaker 1: We can have a lot of shame when we're not
32:02
Speaker 1: overgiving or overcompromising. There's a lot of obstacles to traverse
32:06
Speaker 1: to have that deeper sense of self.
32:09
Speaker 2: I want the gliance that I work with to have
32:11
Speaker 2: a relationship with their discernment. I want this to establish
32:15
Speaker 2: a connection or a relationship to intuition and also to
32:19
Speaker 2: be able to move through the world with more confidence
32:23
Speaker 2: and more inner stability. Developing discernment means that we're not
32:27
Speaker 2: just listening to every intuitive nudge, but we're learning to
32:29
Speaker 2: filter and question and understand it in a grounded way.
32:34
Speaker 2: And this is empowering. So as you do this work,
32:37
Speaker 2: you feel stronger, you feel more empowered, and then you
32:40
Speaker 2: feel more confident in your decision making and how you
32:43
Speaker 2: show up, and then you begin attracting that instead of
32:49
Speaker 2: the energy of giving it all away. What you're describing
32:53
Speaker 2: as being truer to yourself. Yes, it's like off the end,
32:58
Speaker 2: just like anything else in the world. If you want
33:02
Speaker 2: to have a stronger relationship with your intuition, if you
33:05
Speaker 2: want to be more discerning, just like going to the gym,
33:09
Speaker 2: your intuition is a muscle. How can we be better
33:12
Speaker 2: at anything? Like you want to be a better cook,
33:14
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to burn a few dinners and then
33:15
Speaker 2: you're gonna figure it out and then you get better.
33:17
Speaker 2: You have to be bad a little bit before you
33:19
Speaker 2: can be better. If you want to strengthen your intuition,
33:23
Speaker 2: we all have made bad decisions. And once again, like
33:25
Speaker 2: you were scammed by that psychic when you were younger
33:30
Speaker 2: and you were a trusting person. You were likely brought
33:34
Speaker 2: up to believe that people are good and that they're
33:36
Speaker 2: not going to scam you and hurt. But unfortunately you
33:40
Speaker 2: make your way out in the world and you find
33:41
Speaker 2: out that's not completely true. Sometimes we have to learn
33:45
Speaker 2: the hard way. And I'm sorry that your situation was
33:47
Speaker 2: really it was a saying it really hurts. I feel
33:49
Speaker 2: as though that is how we get stronger, that is
33:52
Speaker 2: how we get better. I am a big believer that
33:56
Speaker 2: in life there is no failure. We either win or
34:00
Speaker 2: we learn. If you get knocked down, pick yourself up,
34:04
Speaker 2: dust yourself off, keep going. That is how we turn
34:08
Speaker 2: our situation around. So it's like, you can't get down
34:12
Speaker 2: on yourself. You need to be your biggest fan, your
34:15
Speaker 2: biggest believer. You have to also be willing to change
34:18
Speaker 2: the script, this internal script. Because a lot of clients
34:23
Speaker 2: that I work with, they come in and they're like,
34:24
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't have gotten the job, or maybe I
34:27
Speaker 2: deserved to have that happen to me. I'm like, wait
34:30
Speaker 2: a minute, you're playing for the wrong team here to
34:34
Speaker 2: change this, and I feel like one of the ways
34:37
Speaker 2: that we can do that is by being very honest
34:39
Speaker 2: about forgiving ourselves for what we didn't know at the time,
34:44
Speaker 2: to be willing to learn in a new way about
34:47
Speaker 2: how we can be different the next time.
34:49
Speaker 1: And to keep going, like it's ironic that I turned
34:52
Speaker 1: into an intuitive medium after I've made a lot of
34:56
Speaker 1: peace many years later, and not in the pain of
34:58
Speaker 1: this situation. I've made a lot of peace with what
35:02
Speaker 1: happened and what I've gained from it. But it's easy
35:05
Speaker 1: sometimes when you get burned, like somebody who really falls
35:07
Speaker 1: in love for the first time and they get their
35:09
Speaker 1: heartbroken and they may never be willing.
35:11
Speaker 2: To take that risk again. That's the opposite of the
35:15
Speaker 2: learning part about being uncomfortable. People like, wait a minute,
35:19
Speaker 2: that really hurt. I did not like that. I don't
35:22
Speaker 2: want to do that again. And then what they do
35:24
Speaker 2: is they close for business. We're not doing that again
35:26
Speaker 2: kind of thing. And for me, that makes me really
35:29
Speaker 2: sad when people are unwilling to go that extra mile
35:34
Speaker 2: for themselves. I'm like, this is in service of you
35:39
Speaker 2: being the best version of yourself, and what if your
35:43
Speaker 2: story could change somebody else's life what you learned, So
35:48
Speaker 2: it sounds like you have paid a lot of Carmatax.
35:49
Speaker 2: You have learned a lot from your mediumship work. Have
35:53
Speaker 2: you ever had a conversation with your younger self or
35:55
Speaker 2: you able to access your younger self and share wisdom
36:00
Speaker 2: with each other?
36:03
Speaker 1: They haven't really dug into that very much. Is that
36:06
Speaker 1: part of the work that you do with people is
36:08
Speaker 1: to encourage them in that way?
36:11
Speaker 2: There's that little me exercise, finding the little girl in
36:14
Speaker 2: you before the world tainted the way she moves through it,
36:19
Speaker 2: and before people lied to her and made her feel
36:23
Speaker 2: less than. Let's tap into that because sometimes that is
36:27
Speaker 2: where the power is. I am looking for where were
36:32
Speaker 2: you in your life when you last had that feeling?
36:37
Speaker 2: Because we have to go in and undo. When I
36:40
Speaker 2: pass by an old tree in New York City, they
36:43
Speaker 2: have these iron grates over the trees, and sometimes the
36:46
Speaker 2: tree roots and the iron grate are one. You will
36:49
Speaker 2: never separate these two. It's just grown that way. And
36:52
Speaker 2: sometimes what happens is how we're wounds become part of
36:55
Speaker 2: the fabric. And deparating ourselves from these old patterns and
37:00
Speaker 2: these old thoughts and these old ways of being is hard.
37:04
Speaker 2: When I work with people, I will walk next to you,
37:06
Speaker 2: I will not leave you. However, I cannot want this
37:10
Speaker 2: for you more than you want this for you. Because
37:14
Speaker 2: I'm walking my own road at the same time that
37:17
Speaker 2: I'm walking with you, and I'm doing my own work,
37:19
Speaker 2: and I've been here before and I know how to
37:21
Speaker 2: do it. I will not do it for you. I
37:23
Speaker 2: don't want to give people answers. I want them to
37:26
Speaker 2: figure it out because I don't expect them to be
37:29
Speaker 2: with me for the rest of life. I want to
37:31
Speaker 2: give them tools, and I want them to finish working
37:34
Speaker 2: with me, leaving with a big old toolbox full of
37:38
Speaker 2: ways that they can handle whatever life throws at them.
37:42
Speaker 2: Love that all you can do is love them. My
37:44
Speaker 2: original Tara teacher, the one that I was learning the
37:47
Speaker 2: mythic Taro with, she said to me, you must do
37:51
Speaker 2: this work coming from a place of love. I understand
37:55
Speaker 2: that some people don't even want to be loved. Some
37:57
Speaker 2: people come to you and they don't even be themselves.
37:59
Speaker 2: As I treat my clients like I love them and
38:03
Speaker 2: I want the best for them. I'm available with an
38:05
Speaker 2: affirmation and a question to redirect them, but I really
38:09
Speaker 2: do want them to do it for themselves. That's ultimately
38:13
Speaker 2: the goal.
38:14
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about supporting people, holding their hand
38:17
Speaker 1: through these experiences, but also that you're walking your own
38:20
Speaker 1: path one of the things that's so crucial in this
38:23
Speaker 1: kind of work. But you're talking about coming from a
38:26
Speaker 1: place of love and integrity, but also that unconditional positive
38:30
Speaker 1: regard that you have for people, that you want the
38:33
Speaker 1: best for them, and it's their path, and you can't
38:36
Speaker 1: walk it for them.
38:37
Speaker 2: You can't push them down it.
38:38
Speaker 1: You are not the wave that's supposed to slap somebody
38:41
Speaker 1: down to make them change. They have to want it
38:44
Speaker 1: for themselves because the next time they step into a
38:47
Speaker 1: ditch or a hole or something, they need the tools
38:50
Speaker 1: themselves and the will to pull themselves out of that.
38:54
Speaker 1: And you can't make somebody have that. They have to
38:58
Speaker 1: find that within themselves.
39:00
Speaker 2: It's definitely a journey, and I love this work. I
39:03
Speaker 2: love seeing people finding themselves, staying themselves.
39:08
Speaker 1: Recognizing themselves, and it's working for all the people that
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Speaker 1: you've helped. Do you have account on your website of
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Speaker 1: how many sessions you've had, how many happy customers you have,
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Speaker 1: and it's in the thousands.
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Speaker 2: I love this work. I feel so privileged that I
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Speaker 2: get to do this work as people come and they
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Speaker 2: tell me things they've never told anyone before, and I
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Speaker 2: just I acknowledge them and I'm so grateful for them.
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Speaker 2: And I feel as though, see you told someone and
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Speaker 2: we're both still here. It's okay kind of thing. And
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Speaker 2: I think that people get very scared, and what I
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Speaker 2: want them to know is they're not alone and that
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Speaker 2: they don't need to be afraid to be themselves.
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Speaker 1: I can hear your passion and your love you infuse
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Speaker 1: in working with your clients. How can people find you, Dina,
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Speaker 1: give us your contact info, your website.
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Speaker 2: I'm Dina Baron. My website is Dina Baron dot com.
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Speaker 2: I did self publish my book, so I'm on Amazon
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Speaker 2: and the book is the Way Within. But you can
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Speaker 2: put my name in Diana Baron and you can find it.
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Speaker 2: There is a link for it on I think on
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Speaker 2: the front page of my site. But I'm on Instagram
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Speaker 2: as Diana Baron, also on YouTube as Diana Baron. I
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Speaker 2: have a lot of videos. I've done individual videos for
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Speaker 2: almost every Tarot card, and then I talk a little
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Speaker 2: bit about numerology. Anyone has pulled a card and they
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Speaker 2: are like, what the heck? I try to break it
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Speaker 2: down into Layman's terms. It's like little bite sized pieces.
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Speaker 2: I don't talk to you like you have a tremendous
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Speaker 2: amount of knowledge and background in the taro. Maybe you've
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Speaker 2: just picked up the deck. I love it when people
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Speaker 2: respond to me. You can email me, you can leave
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Speaker 2: me a comment on YouTube, so that's where you can
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Speaker 2: find me.
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Speaker 1: And Baron is spelled b e r r i N.
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Speaker 1: I'll put the information in the show notes of how
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Speaker 1: to Reach you.
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Speaker 2: You really are looking to help people dig into themselves
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Speaker 2: to come out this more authentic, genuine version of who
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Speaker 2: they actually are. That's such a found gift.
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Speaker 1: Skilled excavator with your curiosity and your tools, high energy,
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Speaker 1: high integrity, a true zest for helping people. If you're
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Speaker 1: looking to feel more awakened, alive, engage, and actually happy
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Speaker 1: with yourself, check out Dina's website. Her last name is
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Speaker 1: b e r r i N. See what feels right
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Speaker 1: to you. If it feels right, reach out check out
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Speaker 1: her YouTube videos. Your explanation about taro keeping it simple
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Speaker 1: for those of us that haven't learned that yet but
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Speaker 1: are interested in hearing more about it. It's been a
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Speaker 1: real pleasure talking to you and just being in your energy.
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Speaker 1: You have this great high vibration, but I'm not feeling
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Speaker 1: run over by it. I'm sensitive to energy, so I
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Speaker 1: would notice no aally pleasant.
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Speaker 2: You are so lovely. I would love to just come
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Speaker 2: and sit with you and talk longer. You are a lovely, warm, generous,
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Speaker 2: gentle energy. I love it. Dina Baron, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: It was a pleasure spending time with you.
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Speaker 1: Check out Dina's work and thank you for being here
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