Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 10th April 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the tenth of April twenty twenty sixth,
- 0:11Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to you k Callum News.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Robinson joining me by videoing today
- 0:15Speaker 1: we have Patrick Hennison, Basil Valentine and Mark Anderson. A
- 0:19Speaker 1: Later in the program, we're going to be covering this
- 0:22Speaker 1: year's Builderberg conference, the intention to use five gen milimeter.
- 0:26Speaker 1: We have technology to scan for our emotions and what
- 0:29Speaker 1: are I six up to in Lebanon. But we'll begin
- 0:33Speaker 1: today with shifting war narratives because Britain is back on
- 0:37Speaker 1: Russia's case. The British secondary state for war, we might
- 0:40Speaker 1: call him that. John Healey took to the live stream
- 0:43Speaker 1: yesterday to tell us all about the horrible mister Putin
- 0:47Speaker 1: and how he's been sending his naughty submarines to look
- 0:50Speaker 1: at some undersea cables and pipes in the North Sea.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to a few seconds of how
- 0:56Speaker 1: he began his presentation yesterday.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Today, I'm revealing details of a recent military operation undertaken
- 1:04Speaker 2: by Russia, and in doing so, I'm doing this to
- 1:08Speaker 2: expose the continuing Russian activity that threatens us in the
- 1:12Speaker 2: UK and to highlight our constant readiness to respond. In
- 1:18Speaker 2: the last few weeks, while the eyes of many were
- 1:22Speaker 2: trained on the Middle East, the UK, in partnership with
- 1:26Speaker 2: Norway and other allies, have responded to increase Russian activity
- 1:31Speaker 2: in the Atlantic north of the UK. This operation involved
- 1:38Speaker 2: a Russian Acula class attack submarine and a concurrent deployment
- 1:42Speaker 2: of two specialist submarines from GOOGI, that's Russia's main directorate
- 1:47Speaker 2: for deep sea research. And last November I outline how
- 1:52Speaker 2: these Googi units, including the spy ship Yantar, are vessels
- 1:57Speaker 2: directed by President Putin to conduct hybrid warfare activities against
- 2:03Speaker 2: the UK and our allies, specifically around critical undersea infrastructure.
- 2:11Speaker 2: And for the first time today we're releasing images of
- 2:15Speaker 2: the Googy base and of these vessels. They're designed to
- 2:21Speaker 2: survey underwater infrastructure during peacetime and sabotage it in conflict.
- 2:28Speaker 2: In response to the Russian submarines, I can confirm that
- 2:31Speaker 2: I deployed our armed forces to track and to deter
- 2:35Speaker 2: any malign activity by these vessels.
- 2:40Speaker 1: And if that wasn't silly enough for you, he went
- 2:42Speaker 1: on to say, how din we see you, We see
- 2:44Speaker 1: your activity over our cables and our pipelines, and you
- 2:48Speaker 1: should know that any attempt to damage them will not
- 2:50Speaker 1: be tolerated and will have serious consequences. And later interviews
- 2:55Speaker 1: any bit of clear that this was a line in
- 2:57Speaker 1: the sand and that any damaged any undersea infrastructure whatsoever
- 3:01Speaker 1: was absolutely Putin's work. No one else could possibly carry
- 3:04Speaker 1: out such an act, and we must certainly not think
- 3:08Speaker 1: for one second that Britain would do it ourselves as
- 3:11Speaker 1: a pretext for war. But back to the press conference
- 3:15Speaker 1: and during well, in fact we'll not show this, will
- 3:18Speaker 1: show that video an extra but look the focus is
- 3:22Speaker 1: on Russia once again. But that didn't stop Starmer from
- 3:25Speaker 1: taking to the Guardian here to use the Iran conflict
- 3:28Speaker 1: as an excuse for driving forward with his tutalitarian policies.
- 3:32Speaker 1: We should not be at the mercy of events abroad,
- 3:34Speaker 1: he said. That's why, from energy to defense, the key
- 3:37Speaker 1: social policies, we aim to remake our country. And of
- 3:41Speaker 1: course he doesn't say hi, he intends to remake it,
- 3:43Speaker 1: not at this stage, but whatever he does is going
- 3:45Speaker 1: to be in order to protect us from the Russians.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But we'll leave it to Vett Cooper. Our lovely Foreign
- 3:51Speaker 1: Secretary to some things up.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Now.
- 3:54Speaker 1: You have to hold on to your hats when you
- 3:55Speaker 1: hear this, because she was speaking at the Mansion House
- 3:58Speaker 1: in the City of London, and so this is what
- 4:02Speaker 1: she said Vinil four.
- 4:04Speaker 4: Here we took a very different view from the United
- 4:09Speaker 4: States and Israel at the start of this conflict. When
- 4:12Speaker 4: their action got underway, we faced a choice and we
- 4:16Speaker 4: considered those issues carefully, the need for a clear plan,
- 4:21Speaker 4: the risks of escalation, the potential economic consequences, and the
- 4:26Speaker 4: lawful basis for any action, and we made the choice
- 4:31Speaker 4: not to provide support for the initial strikes or to
- 4:34Speaker 4: get drawn into offensive action. That was the decision Prime
- 4:39Speaker 4: Minister Kirstarmer took, calm and clear and guided by UK
- 4:42Speaker 4: interests and UK values. A different party in power, with
- 4:47Speaker 4: a different Prime Minister in Downing Street might have taken
- 4:49Speaker 4: a different decision. And governments are judged by the decisions
- 4:53Speaker 4: they make and the instincts that guide them in moments
- 4:56Speaker 4: of grave crisis, and so in those crucial hours on
- 5:00Speaker 4: the morning of the twenty eighth of February, when other
- 5:03Speaker 4: parties were demanding to know why we were not taking
- 5:05Speaker 4: part in the strikes on Iran. This government stayed calm
- 5:10Speaker 4: and health firm because we have learned the lessons from
- 5:13Speaker 4: the recent past, especially from Iraq, and no matter what
- 5:18Speaker 4: the pressure from other parties or other countries, we do
- 5:22Speaker 4: not believe it is right to outsource our foreign policy
- 5:26Speaker 4: to anyone.
- 5:29Speaker 1: So we're not ever outsourcing our foreign policy to anyone. Patrick,
- 5:33Speaker 1: just let me just get a brief comment from you
- 5:35Speaker 1: on this, because you know, they don't seem to quite
- 5:37Speaker 1: know who the enemy needs to be here. They are
- 5:42Speaker 1: now talking about Russia, and of course we are outsourcing
- 5:45Speaker 1: our foreign policy with respect to Russia because Ukraine is
- 5:49Speaker 1: prosecuting our war for us.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Well, quite right, Mike, it's another proxy with Ukraine. So
- 5:59Speaker 3: we're talking about a crisis that this government is absolutely
- 6:03Speaker 3: desperate to find and this is just another example of this.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Rather than intervene on an international law basis, which the
- 6:13Speaker 3: UK could have done diplomatically to restrain the United States,
- 6:16Speaker 3: instead they've basically waived the red Rag, the Matador or
- 6:22Speaker 3: the Red Cape from the Matador with the United States
- 6:25Speaker 3: and allow them straight through and then to ultimately drag
- 6:28Speaker 3: the UK into the war and allow Britain to be
- 6:31Speaker 3: used as a staging ground for bombing raids onto Iran.
- 6:36Speaker 3: So for her to make that statement credibly and just
- 6:39Speaker 3: ignore all of the sort of facilitating that Britain has done,
- 6:43Speaker 3: including civilian massacres which the US carried out in Iran,
- 6:50Speaker 3: is quite breathtaking.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Absolutely well, Basil, let me welcome you to the program.
- 6:55Speaker 1: And the question is Israel bearing that October seventh basically
- 7:02Speaker 1: is what has started the Middle East conflict? At least
- 7:06Speaker 1: what has the question of what Israel actually you at
- 7:08Speaker 1: the time keeps coming back?
- 7:12Speaker 5: Yes, it does, Mike, and hello everybody. We've got a
- 7:18Speaker 5: big disconnect between what is in the public domain, particularly
- 7:24Speaker 5: by the Israeli press, and the received wisdom, the accepted
- 7:30Speaker 5: conventional reality that we have here, particularly in Britain, and
- 7:35Speaker 5: the emergence of the Green Party is a significant force
- 7:38Speaker 5: in UK politics has brought this into sharp focus. The
- 7:42Speaker 5: latest Lord Ashcroft poll shows the Greens actually leading nationally
- 7:47Speaker 5: for the first time, beating reform. They've got over thirty
- 7:49Speaker 5: one percent. That brings people like the chap in the
- 7:53Speaker 5: picture there, Bernard Mooney into the picture because he's holding
- 7:57Speaker 5: up a sign saying that Israel knew about October the
- 8:02Speaker 5: seventh in advance and used it to cover up the
- 8:06Speaker 5: subsequent evisceration of Gaza wor to that effect, and of
- 8:12Speaker 5: course for deviating from the official narrative, he has been
- 8:17Speaker 5: widely condemned, even though the Israelis themselves admit that they
- 8:23Speaker 5: were responsible for some of those killed on and after
- 8:27Speaker 5: October the seventh. Crucially, Major General Nitzan Alon, who's just
- 8:33Speaker 5: stepped down ashead of Israel's Hostages and Missing Persons Unit,
- 8:36Speaker 5: admitted not only that Israel knew it had killed the
- 8:39Speaker 5: Bibas family and others, but also Israel knew that Hamas
- 8:44Speaker 5: had not taken them. Plus, of course we have the
- 8:48Speaker 5: Hannibal directive from October the seventh itself, where Israeli forces
- 8:55Speaker 5: were ordered to kill anybody seen heading to warwards Gaza
- 9:01Speaker 5: so that they could not be used as hostages. That
- 9:04Speaker 5: had applied to Israelis as well as Hamas fighters. Yo
- 9:11Speaker 5: Av Gallant admitted that but these facts, of course, are
- 9:16Speaker 5: inconvenient for an establishment, and that I include the Labor Party,
- 9:24Speaker 5: who want to reinforce the idea that, of course Hamas
- 9:29Speaker 5: were the only people responsible for killing anyone on October
- 9:32Speaker 5: the seventh. This letter is from the Labor leader of
- 9:36Speaker 5: Lewisham Council condemning Bernard Mooney for what it calls conspiracy
- 9:43Speaker 5: theories relating to October the seventh, and demanding, of course,
- 9:47Speaker 5: that Zach Polanski and the Green Party disown him. I
- 9:51Speaker 5: think this is a foretaste of what's to come now
- 9:54Speaker 5: that the Green Party is a major force in British politics,
- 9:58Speaker 5: and of course is take an increasingly anti Zionist stance.
- 10:03Speaker 5: The motion at the Spring conference to state as party
- 10:08Speaker 5: policy that the Zionism is racism was filibusted the other day,
- 10:14Speaker 5: but it's bound to come back. And I shouldn't think
- 10:18Speaker 5: that Bernard Moodey is the only person who has discovered
- 10:22Speaker 5: more about October the seventh than the establishment would like
- 10:26Speaker 5: us to know. But it's really disgraceful of Labor Party
- 10:31Speaker 5: apparatchicks to be accusing him or anybody else for that matter,
- 10:36Speaker 5: of indulging in conspiracy theories regarding matters that the Israeli
- 10:41Speaker 5: government themselves admit and that are out in the open,
- 10:44Speaker 5: in the public domain. So we've got this disconnect between
- 10:50Speaker 5: what Israelis are willing to to admit to and what
- 10:54Speaker 5: is published in Israeli media and on the other hand,
- 10:58Speaker 5: the received wisdom, the consensus reality here in the UK,
- 11:03Speaker 5: which brooks absolutely no dissent at all from the official narrative,
- 11:09Speaker 5: which of course, as we know, has been used to
- 11:12Speaker 5: justify genocide.
- 11:14Speaker 1: So let's move on to you then, Patrick, and of
- 11:17Speaker 1: course bring us up to date on the war in Iran.
- 11:21Speaker 3: The latest is too much fanfare. There's allegedly a ceasefire,
- 11:27Speaker 3: and you know it's first I'm just going to say briefly,
- 11:31Speaker 3: I'll take you through where things are at and how
- 11:33Speaker 3: they got there might but the important thing here for
- 11:36Speaker 3: everyone to understand is it flip flops by the hour
- 11:39Speaker 3: with Donald Trump and with this White House. So it's just,
- 11:43Speaker 3: you know, going to be a fool's errand to try
- 11:46Speaker 3: to follow the bouncing ball with this White House, and
- 11:50Speaker 3: they'll be back and forth, they'll be up and down.
- 11:53Speaker 3: They'll be declaring war by breakfast tomorrow, and then another
- 11:57Speaker 3: pause by dinner, and then a deadline for the following evening,
- 12:02Speaker 3: and then so forth, then a week's deadline. It just
- 12:04Speaker 3: never ends here. And so the question is, you know, firstly,
- 12:10Speaker 3: did Israel spoil the ceasefire? And this is typical typical
- 12:15Speaker 3: story here from the Guardian, Did Israel attack Lebanon? Did
- 12:19Speaker 3: that spoil the ceasefire? And of course according to the
- 12:23Speaker 3: United States now JD. Vance, the Vice President's been thrown
- 12:27Speaker 3: into the fray here and he's saying no, no, no,
- 12:30Speaker 3: He says Lebanon was never part of the ceasefire. Well,
- 12:35Speaker 3: that contradicts the statements directly from the Pakistani Prime Minister's
- 12:42Speaker 3: own office and ex account, and it absolutely did. In fact,
- 12:46Speaker 3: the United States provided the text for the tweet, which
- 12:49Speaker 3: we discovered yesterday. So the United States absolutely was there,
- 12:55Speaker 3: but they didn't want to. Unfortunately for the US, they
- 12:59Speaker 3: don't want to admit that the Israel controls the total,
- 13:04Speaker 3: the pace, and the tenor of all of these events,
- 13:08Speaker 3: and so Israel will just decide when it's going to
- 13:10Speaker 3: attack Lebanon. It's sending a message to Washington saying, hey,
- 13:14Speaker 3: you don't dictate terms here. We're going to prosecute whatever
- 13:18Speaker 3: we want. And the United States will stick to the
- 13:20Speaker 3: point Lebanon's not connected to this war. They absolutely are.
- 13:25Speaker 3: So the first thing is to understand there is no ceasefire.
- 13:29Speaker 3: There's tool two competing dual proposals which may or may
- 13:34Speaker 3: not ever be agreed upon. And the US and Israel
- 13:37Speaker 3: needed a pause in order to re arm and reload.
- 13:40Speaker 3: And that's very clear by the president's statement. So if
- 13:44Speaker 3: there are negotiations, what are the chances of them, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 3: developing any sort of positive outcome. I don't know. Let's
- 13:53Speaker 3: look at the negotiation team here, will bring them on screen.
- 13:56Speaker 3: We've got the A team here that they're deploying. We've
- 14:00Speaker 3: the leaked image here, we've got from our sources of
- 14:03Speaker 3: the diplomatic vehicle here from Trotter's Unlimited Trotter's unlimited independent
- 14:12Speaker 3: diplomats New York, Tel Aviv and Islamabad. And of course
- 14:16Speaker 3: you've got the del boy of diplomacy himself, Steve Wickoff
- 14:21Speaker 3: and his sidekick Rodney Jared Kushner. So and JD Vance
- 14:26Speaker 3: is now being thrown in for extra cannon fodder with
- 14:29Speaker 3: extra eyeliner as you can see. So the question is
- 14:33Speaker 3: what are the chances of success? And we're going to
- 14:36Speaker 3: say with this team, just like every other negotiations, absolutely zero,
- 14:42Speaker 3: absolutely zeros. So there's no chance of success. And in fact,
- 14:47Speaker 3: if you look back at all of these situations, they've
- 14:50Speaker 3: only bought time for either the Israel or the US
- 14:54Speaker 3: to mount a sneak attack, and Israel did that immediately
- 14:57Speaker 3: after this was announced. It went in for a devastating
- 15:01Speaker 3: and brutal, savage attack on Lebanon. So all jokes aside,
- 15:07Speaker 3: what the Israelis did in Beirut is just unbelievable. They've
- 15:11Speaker 3: escalated things to another level here, so the President, and
- 15:16Speaker 3: just to just to reiterate what I said, here's a
- 15:18Speaker 3: tweet from Trump, one of many in the last twenty
- 15:21Speaker 3: four hours. Here there are reports that Iran is charging
- 15:25Speaker 3: fees to tankers going through the straits of WARMUS. Yeah, Donald,
- 15:29Speaker 3: they've been doing that for a few weeks now. They
- 15:32Speaker 3: better not be and if they are, they better stop now,
- 15:35Speaker 3: says Donald Trump. So he's already making the threats and
- 15:38Speaker 3: these maximalist positions. And Iran is basically proven that they're
- 15:43Speaker 3: not going to basically cowtow to the White House on this.
- 15:47Speaker 3: So in other words, there's going to be no we
- 15:49Speaker 3: were going to end up shooting it once again. And
- 15:52Speaker 3: so what caused this ceasefire to begin with? And just
- 15:56Speaker 3: briefly here this is on Press TV released this a
- 15:59Speaker 3: couple of days ago. Here, and here's this is from
- 16:02Speaker 3: the head of Press TV. Here and the information that
- 16:05Speaker 3: they released After special Forces, the US Special Forces realized
- 16:10Speaker 3: they had fallen into a trap, the White House Situation
- 16:12Speaker 3: Room made a crucial decision. The main operation to infiltrate
- 16:16Speaker 3: the nuclear site at Isfahan was changed into a desperate
- 16:20Speaker 3: rescue mission for the dozens of US commandos trapped under
- 16:25Speaker 3: Iranian fire. So this is a very different story than
- 16:28Speaker 3: the Jessica Lynch style gallant rescue of the pilot. Here
- 16:33Speaker 3: and PRESTV released this AI video which is actually quite brilliant,
- 16:38Speaker 3: but it details the situation on the ground in full
- 16:43Speaker 3: color and in three D of the USC one thirty
- 16:48Speaker 3: you know that allegedly got stuck in the mud, and
- 16:50Speaker 3: it really shows that there was another operation underway. And
- 16:54Speaker 3: this is what's become clear now. The US attempted a
- 16:58Speaker 3: snatch and grab of enriched uranium at Isfahan, at the
- 17:03Speaker 3: Isfahan facility, and it was a big operation that was
- 17:06Speaker 3: put together by Pete Hagseth, and the President was briefed
- 17:10Speaker 3: on this by the way prior, but the Washington Post
- 17:13Speaker 3: reported the briefing, but they didn't report the operation. So
- 17:17Speaker 3: Iran is saying that this was an operation and the
- 17:21Speaker 3: US fell into a trap. One second, one took fire
- 17:26Speaker 3: and a bunch of US forces were pinned down and
- 17:31Speaker 3: they had to basically do massive saturation bombing. Many Iranian
- 17:36Speaker 3: military and besieges were killed as US bombed the area
- 17:40Speaker 3: as well as bombed their own aircraft. The question is
- 17:43Speaker 3: how did they x filtrate the dozens of commandos. There
- 17:46Speaker 3: was probably another one thirty that was that landed to
- 17:52Speaker 3: xfiltrait the US forces, But whatever the case is here,
- 17:56Speaker 3: this was the Jimmy Carter moment for Donald Trump and
- 17:59Speaker 3: Pete Seth. This was a botched operation, much bigger in
- 18:03Speaker 3: scale than the botched hostage rescue by Jimmy Carter back
- 18:07Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty. Okay, so they've evaded any press or
- 18:13Speaker 3: coverage on this, but in this sort of alternative sphere,
- 18:18Speaker 3: the podcast sphere and shows like Andrew Neapolitano Judging Freedom
- 18:23Speaker 3: Ane of these big podcasts, a lot of the experts
- 18:25Speaker 3: have come on those programs and detail given details about
- 18:29Speaker 3: this what actually happened. So this was this is what
- 18:34Speaker 3: triggered Trump's fury of threatening civilizational annihilation of the Iranians here,
- 18:42Speaker 3: and so that outburst by Trump, it basically caused a
- 18:47Speaker 3: massive backlash in the United States and also internationally. Here's
- 18:52Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green will go to look at her former congresswoman,
- 18:57Speaker 3: Go look at her Twitter account. Here she's invoking the
- 18:59Speaker 3: twenty fifth Amendment saying, not a single bomb has dropped
- 19:03Speaker 3: on America. We cannot kill an entire civilization. This is
- 19:07Speaker 3: evil and madness here. So there was a substantial backlash,
- 19:11Speaker 3: including from his own party here on the Democrat side,
- 19:14Speaker 3: as we can see next, they introduced articles of impeachment
- 19:20Speaker 3: in one hundred lawmakers, invoking the twenty fifth Amendment. That's
- 19:23Speaker 3: to remove the president on the basis that he's mentally unstable.
- 19:27Speaker 3: And I think there's a good argument that probably Trump
- 19:29Speaker 3: falls into that category. That's without saying. But in terms
- 19:34Speaker 3: of the political blowback here, and many of the main
- 19:38Speaker 3: media outlets are pointing this out, massive backlash us politically.
- 19:44Speaker 3: So he's already lost the independent voters, he's losing more Republicans.
- 19:48Speaker 3: He's also there's another important demographic which he has lost
- 19:53Speaker 3: as well as a result of his war with religious
- 19:57Speaker 3: institutions here. But this is key. You look at the
- 20:00Speaker 3: internationally MAGA allies like Georgia Maloney in Italy, well, his
- 20:06Speaker 3: going to war with the Pope and the Vatican is
- 20:09Speaker 3: a bridge too far for the Italians. And you can
- 20:12Speaker 3: see this is a massive headache for Georgia Maloney as well. So,
- 20:16Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the level of political suicide here
- 20:20Speaker 3: by the White House is quite extraordinary. Here, well, let's
- 20:24Speaker 3: look at Donald Trump's war with Pope Leo, and so
- 20:28Speaker 3: we'll show you how this began. But this is a
- 20:30Speaker 3: statement from the current pope. Bear in mind, this is
- 20:33Speaker 3: an American pope, and he's saying, I'm asking all people
- 20:36Speaker 3: of goodwill to search always for peace and not violence,
- 20:40Speaker 3: to reject war, especially war that many people have said
- 20:42Speaker 3: is an unjust war which is continuing to escalate, which
- 20:45Speaker 3: is not resolving anything. In fact, we have a worldwide
- 20:48Speaker 3: economic crisis, an energy crisis, situation in the Middle East
- 20:52Speaker 3: of great instability, which is only provoking more hatred throughout
- 20:56Speaker 3: the world. So come back to the table, let's talk,
- 20:59Speaker 3: let's look for solutions in a peaceful way. I mean,
- 21:03Speaker 3: I'd love to hear that from a US official, but
- 21:05Speaker 3: unfortunately it's the Pope. It's the pope weighing in the
- 21:08Speaker 3: American Pope. So the White House has declared war on
- 21:13Speaker 3: the Vatican diplomatically and politically speaking, and the relations between
- 21:18Speaker 3: the two are at all time low. So what started
- 21:21Speaker 3: this holy war? Here is pete Hegseeth in March called
- 21:25Speaker 3: on Americans to pray for victory in a battle and
- 21:28Speaker 3: the safety of their troops quote in the name of
- 21:31Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, and this prompted a response from Pope Leo
- 21:36Speaker 3: soon afterwards warned against invoking the name of Jesus for battle,
- 21:40Speaker 3: saying that Jesus quote does not listen to the prayers
- 21:43Speaker 3: of those who wage war, but rejects them. This created
- 21:46Speaker 3: an unholy backlash. You probably saw reports of the Pentagon
- 21:51Speaker 3: canceling Good Friday services for staff Catholic services and we'll
- 21:56Speaker 3: only be holding Protestant services. So you've got a little
- 22:00Speaker 3: sectarian division going on here. The Pentagon denies threatening the
- 22:03Speaker 3: Vatican during a January meeting with the Holy Seis diplomat.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Now look at this, just turned back the clock. This
- 22:09Speaker 3: isn't this didn't start just this month. It reports that
- 22:13Speaker 3: a US official raised the threat of the Avignng papacy,
- 22:17Speaker 3: referencing the period from thirteen oh nine to thirteen seventy
- 22:21Speaker 3: six when Francis King Philip the Fourth captured the pope
- 22:25Speaker 3: and subsequent popes which resided in Avignon instead of Rome.
- 22:31Speaker 3: So the sort of veiled threat that you could become
- 22:34Speaker 3: the next avign Young papacy there. And so look, that's
- 22:39Speaker 3: the war between the US and the Vatican. On this.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Trump will lose the Latino support that he got because
- 22:47Speaker 3: they will this is a bridge too far for Latino
- 22:49Speaker 3: supporters and Republicans. You don't go to war with the
- 22:52Speaker 3: Catholic Church. Not only that, a whole bunch of other
- 22:55Speaker 3: blocks that are included in that. This is just the
- 22:59Speaker 3: disaster politic for Trump just gets continues to get worse.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Patrick, just very briefly, do you think that will put
- 23:07Speaker 1: pressure on him to do something even more radical?
- 23:12Speaker 3: Well, I think I don't know. You know, we were
- 23:15Speaker 3: thinking it was Taco Tuesday when the when the ceasefire
- 23:18Speaker 3: announcement came, and then this was Trump checking out. But
- 23:22Speaker 3: it looks like a pause to rearm and reload. Mike, Yeah,
- 23:25Speaker 3: I mean that's that's what Israel in the US needed
- 23:28Speaker 3: this ceasefire announcement. It needed a pause. Iran did not.
- 23:31Speaker 3: They're already rejected, uh, because they already Iran has already
- 23:35Speaker 3: been twice bitten or once bitten twice shy. They've already been,
- 23:42Speaker 3: have you know been? They've used experienced negotiations by the
- 23:47Speaker 3: US which have been used UH as a cover for
- 23:51Speaker 3: a sneak attack and to send to send Kushner and
- 23:55Speaker 3: wickoff again. The Ranians aren't going to take it seriously, Mike.
- 23:58Speaker 3: What's happening here is exactly what Russia and the Ukraine negotiations.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Russia realized this is all theater, so they're not doing
- 24:06Speaker 3: serious negotiations. They're sending career dmitriof who's a businessman, who's
- 24:10Speaker 3: a nice guy, to keep Kushner and Wickcough busy, and
- 24:13Speaker 3: the same thing. The Iranians are not expecting anything from
- 24:16Speaker 3: these negotiations. It's all theater. They've priced it in already,
- 24:20Speaker 3: they're preparing for war and the same way Russia has
- 24:24Speaker 3: done in Ukraine. So in fact, this will ultimately, I
- 24:27Speaker 3: think benefit the Iranians down the long run, because the
- 24:30Speaker 3: US has no more leverage in the region at all,
- 24:33Speaker 3: with the situation with the Straits of Hormuz and the
- 24:36Speaker 3: fact that their interceptors, their cruise missiles, and their jazz
- 24:39Speaker 3: and missiles are all run down. The stocks are low.
- 24:42Speaker 3: They will not replenish them probably until sometime later in
- 24:45Speaker 3: the year. So I mean that's the situation for the US,
- 24:49Speaker 3: isn't very good? Yeah?
- 24:51Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you Patrick. No, Mark, that's walking
- 24:54Speaker 1: back to the UK coll news and well do you
- 24:57Speaker 1: give me a shot a couple of days ago because
- 25:00Speaker 1: an announcement from NATO.
- 25:04Speaker 6: Indeed, it's great to be back on UK column. Hello
- 25:07Speaker 6: everyone for this special report. Bilderberg meeting earlier than ever,
- 25:11Speaker 6: very unexpected and very unusual overall considering their seventy two
- 25:16Speaker 6: years of meetings. Anyway, Yes, this came out April third,
- 25:19Speaker 6: the NATO Secretary General to visit the US, and it
- 25:23Speaker 6: talked about sundry meetings with President Trump, Secretary of State Rubio,
- 25:28Speaker 6: and Secretary of War Hegseth and then mister Ruti, the
- 25:32Speaker 6: head of NATO Secretary General, a longtime Builderberg attendee, also
- 25:37Speaker 6: attended a Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation Institute event. He was
- 25:41Speaker 6: asked to speak there and then oh, by the way,
- 25:44Speaker 6: it said on this NATO press release before Bilderberg's media
- 25:47Speaker 6: department released this is said, by the way, from the
- 25:51Speaker 6: tenth till the twelfth of April route well or route
- 25:54Speaker 6: however you say his name, the Secretary General will attend
- 25:57Speaker 6: the Bilderberg meeting. So all Brooklos among the Builderberg network
- 26:02Speaker 6: of alternative reporters through telegram and other means, and we've
- 26:06Speaker 6: been communicating with one another. We've been doing our independent
- 26:09Speaker 6: investigations at any rate. Finally, at the very last minute,
- 26:13Speaker 6: they're waiting longer than ever, the Builderberg's obscure media department,
- 26:18Speaker 6: which is based in the Netherlands. They have no letterhead,
- 26:22Speaker 6: they have no phone number, they have no names to
- 26:24Speaker 6: their media spokesman. But finally they released the topics and
- 26:28Speaker 6: the attendees. And here's what we have. We have AI,
- 26:32Speaker 6: Arctic security, China. Many of these are returning topics, Digital finance,
- 26:38Speaker 6: energy diversification, Europe, global trade, the Middle East, Russia. We've
- 26:43Speaker 6: been talking about these things today, Transatlantic defense, Industrial relationship, Ukraine, USA,
- 26:49Speaker 6: future of warfare in the West. Some of these are
- 26:52Speaker 6: one word topics, very broad, very vague, but that's not unusual.
- 26:57Speaker 6: Now I broke this down. This is the hotel the
- 27:00Speaker 6: way where they're meeting, the former Mandarin Oriental where I've
- 27:04Speaker 6: been for some trilateral meetings. It's now called the salamander.
- 27:08Speaker 6: Bilderberg met there very recently in DC in twenty twenty two,
- 27:11Speaker 6: and the Trilaterals at a minimum have met there in
- 27:14Speaker 6: twenty fourteen and twenty twenty five. A pretty palatial place
- 27:18Speaker 6: along the Potomac, across from the Jefferson Memorial. Anyway, I
- 27:22Speaker 6: broke this down a bit. We have a total of
- 27:24Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty nine attendees. We have initially thirty
- 27:28Speaker 6: six US attendees. It's been it's down to thirty four.
- 27:33Speaker 6: There was an initial leaked list of the attendees through wiki,
- 27:37Speaker 6: spooks and other means, but then when the official Bildeberg
- 27:41Speaker 6: press finally announced what's going on, then things were trimmed
- 27:45Speaker 6: back and modified a little. Mark Kearney of Canada, the
- 27:48Speaker 6: Prime Minister, evidently was going to be there and now
- 27:51Speaker 6: they claim he's not, although you cannot you can never
- 27:54Speaker 6: totally trust the list in terms of topic and the
- 27:57Speaker 6: attendees in terms of being absolutely accurate. They fudget a bit.
- 28:02Speaker 6: But anyway, we have ten from the UK, including David Lammy.
- 28:06Speaker 6: So together the US and the UK comprise about thirty
- 28:10Speaker 6: four percent of the one hundred and twenty nine attendees.
- 28:13Speaker 6: We have four from Ireland, including Jack Chambers, who holds
- 28:17Speaker 6: an important position with digitization, and one of the topies
- 28:22Speaker 6: of course is digital finance, and there are strong indications
- 28:25Speaker 6: that Central Bank digital currencies and digital IDs are among
- 28:29Speaker 6: the topics. So Jack Chambers among the four people from
- 28:32Speaker 6: Ireland is very likely chiming in on that. We have
- 28:36Speaker 6: Spotify and Coinbase representatives. Another changes, You're not seeing any
- 28:41Speaker 6: Council on Form Relations, no Brookings Institution, no American Enterprise Institute,
- 28:46Speaker 6: and not even Chathamhouse being directly representative Builderberg this year.
- 28:51Speaker 6: There's none of those. The main think tanks are the
- 28:54Speaker 6: Hoover and Hudson Institutes, and there's a stronger and stronger
- 28:57Speaker 6: emphasis on Stanford University, including Neil Ferguson who's not American
- 29:03Speaker 6: born but is considered a US citizen, and so many
- 29:07Speaker 6: many interesting things we can talk about more. Of course,
- 29:10Speaker 6: in extra we have others like Albert Borola of Pfizer
- 29:14Speaker 6: returning the media, the bought off media that covers it,
- 29:20Speaker 6: that takes part rather but does not cover it. Is
- 29:23Speaker 6: about ten representatives of the news media of the one
- 29:26Speaker 6: hundred and twenty nine total people that are there, and
- 29:29Speaker 6: another one who's there and we can show this slide
- 29:31Speaker 6: is Alexander Stubb of he's the President of Finland. And
- 29:37Speaker 6: what's significant about Alexander Stubb He just brought out this book.
- 29:40Speaker 6: This is a slide from a report I did in
- 29:43Speaker 6: the latter part of last year, and he wrote The
- 29:46Speaker 6: West Last Chance, How to Build a New Global Order
- 29:49Speaker 6: before It's too late. Since then that book has come out,
- 29:53Speaker 6: and this is a topic that he's really passionate about.
- 29:56Speaker 6: He's wondering whether the global South will go more with
- 30:00Speaker 6: China and Russia and countries in the Middle East, or
- 30:03Speaker 6: will the global South go more the Western way. And
- 30:07Speaker 6: that's a big question in his mind. But that's just
- 30:10Speaker 6: some of the reportaja on this gentleman, and we'll talk
- 30:13Speaker 6: about it and break it down a bit more and
- 30:16Speaker 6: look at the topics and the meaning of it all
- 30:18Speaker 6: in extra So again, this is the earliest Bilderberg has
- 30:22Speaker 6: met in the year, probably since the nineteen nineties or
- 30:25Speaker 6: even the nineteen eighties. So it caught a lot of
- 30:27Speaker 6: people off guard. A couple of weeks later, I probably
- 30:30Speaker 6: could have been there physically, But there you go.
- 30:32Speaker 1: For now. Thank you, Mark, thank you for that. And
- 30:35Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that an extra I have no doubt,
- 30:38Speaker 1: Patrick Glen. Back to you and NATO and the potential
- 30:44Speaker 1: expansion of the war into Turkey.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Actually, well, look the question is, you know, what is
- 30:51Speaker 3: the status of NATO with this president and there's all
- 30:54Speaker 3: sorts of threats from the US. Trump's not happy because
- 30:58Speaker 3: NATO hasn't come in to like prove i'd you know,
- 31:01Speaker 3: naval assets, countries, members haven't come in to help him
- 31:04Speaker 3: open the straits of Hormouse and so you know, it's
- 31:07Speaker 3: just a weird flip on the Article five dynamic that
- 31:11Speaker 3: the Trump is basically, we'll start a war, but you
- 31:13Speaker 3: have to come and join us to help us get
- 31:16Speaker 3: you know, clean up our mess kind of thing. But so,
- 31:19Speaker 3: what is the stats with NATO, why all these threats?
- 31:21Speaker 3: And some clues have actually emerged, very important clues here
- 31:26Speaker 3: and if we look at just the role of Mark
- 31:30Speaker 3: Ruta as a facilitator for what looks like it's about
- 31:34Speaker 3: to happen here. And he was asked multiple times, it
- 31:37Speaker 3: is a report here at Euronews if Trump had said
- 31:39Speaker 3: whether he would leave the alliance. Ruta did not answer directly.
- 31:43Speaker 3: That is shocking to me because they've they've done so
- 31:47Speaker 3: many joint press commers is they're supposedly friends, but nothing so.
- 31:51Speaker 3: The White House Press Secretary Karen Levitt told reporters ahead
- 31:54Speaker 3: of the meeting that possible withdraw is quote something the
- 31:58Speaker 3: President has discussed, and I think it's something the President
- 32:01Speaker 3: will be discussing in a couple of hours with Secretary
- 32:05Speaker 3: General Rute. So there is definitely a crisis brewing. Is
- 32:09Speaker 3: this the reason for a snap Builderberg meeting? Is there
- 32:13Speaker 3: more behind this than when we're looking at I think
- 32:16Speaker 3: the clue is coming here from the whistleblower Joe Kent.
- 32:19Speaker 3: This is the former counter terrorism chief under Trump that
- 32:22Speaker 3: resigned recently over Israel dragging the US into the Iran war.
- 32:27Speaker 3: And here is the answer. Unfortunately, it says Joe Kent
- 32:30Speaker 3: leaving NATO, and we go a little bit closer here
- 32:34Speaker 3: we can zoom in a little bit on that there
- 32:36Speaker 3: we are. Unfortunately, leaving NATO won't be to avoid foreign entanglements.
- 32:42Speaker 3: We'll be leaving NATO so that we can side with
- 32:44Speaker 3: Israel when Turkey and Israel eventually clash in Syria. This
- 32:49Speaker 3: is after we help topple the secular Syrian government and
- 32:52Speaker 3: install a former al Kada Isis leader as president. Time
- 32:57Speaker 3: to stop playing arsonist and fireman in the Middle East.
- 33:00Speaker 3: It's just not worth it. Here and this is above
- 33:03Speaker 3: a typical Trump tweet from yesterday. Here, NATO wasn't there
- 33:07Speaker 3: when we needed them, and they won't be there if
- 33:10Speaker 3: we need them again. Remember Greenland, that big, poorly run
- 33:14Speaker 3: piece of ice. So he's still harping on about Greenland here.
- 33:17Speaker 3: But this is the point, Mike is this is the
- 33:20Speaker 3: big reveal that they're already positioning Turkey as the next
- 33:26Speaker 3: demon in the region, the next to run. So here's
- 33:29Speaker 3: enough Tally Bennett, the former Israeli Prime minister making this
- 33:33Speaker 3: statement recently, and pay attention because this is the harbinger
- 33:39Speaker 3: of things to come. We'll play this a brief clip.
- 33:43Speaker 7: A new Turkish threat is emerging. I want to be
- 33:47Speaker 7: very clear. Turkey and Qatar have gained influence in Syria,
- 33:52Speaker 7: are seeking influence elsewhere and everywhere throughout the region. And
- 33:56Speaker 7: from here I warn Turkey is the new Iran. Ardoon
- 34:07Speaker 7: is sophisticated, dangerous, and he seeks to encircle Israel. And
- 34:13Speaker 7: while some senior Israelis we're on Qatar's payroll. Qatar and
- 34:20Speaker 7: Turkey are nourishing the Islamic Brotherhood monster that is growing
- 34:28Speaker 7: and eventually might become as dangerous as the one created
- 34:33Speaker 7: by Iran, Turkey and Qatar gaining influence not only in
- 34:37Speaker 7: Syria but also in Gaza through the front door and everyone,
- 34:43Speaker 7: and trying to create a new choke rink. Turkey is
- 34:47Speaker 7: trying to flip Saudi Arabia against US and establish a
- 34:50Speaker 7: hostile Sunni access with nuclear Pakistan.
- 34:58Speaker 3: So it's it's the plan is being laid out right
- 35:01Speaker 3: in front of US here, And so it begins to
- 35:04Speaker 3: make sense now because NATO is how the US projects
- 35:08Speaker 3: power in Europe, It's how the US projects power in
- 35:12Speaker 3: the Mediterranean. Why would the US want to lose all that?
- 35:16Speaker 3: I mean, that would be a huge downgrade for US Empire.
- 35:19Speaker 3: But if they're doing it for Israel and for Israel's
- 35:22Speaker 3: security ambitions or Israel's greater Israel ambitions, then it makes
- 35:26Speaker 3: perfect sense. Then it doesn't have to be in the
- 35:29Speaker 3: US interest because and that follows a familiar pattern here.
- 35:33Speaker 3: So Mike, you know, I really look, I'm really looking
- 35:35Speaker 3: at this as the Joe can't potentially pulled the rug
- 35:39Speaker 3: out from under this agenda. If this is indeed the case.
- 35:44Speaker 3: I think this is a credible argument.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Yeah, quite incredible, Patrick, So lots to talk about an
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- 37:32Speaker 1: is Seuer's moment. Why they ran in a war? They
- 37:35Speaker 1: ran wars a historic humiliation. That's Carl and Silk and
- 37:38Speaker 1: Steell join him at nine for that. Okay, let's move
- 37:42Speaker 1: on then to the question of our emotions. And well,
- 37:47Speaker 1: I just want to bring this article on screen first
- 37:50Speaker 1: of all, because apparently your car is learning to read
- 37:53Speaker 1: your face or will be very soon. So researchers are
- 37:56Speaker 1: wanting to scan our heartbeats from across the room, and
- 37:59Speaker 1: EU already decided that this technology is too dangerous to
- 38:02Speaker 1: allow into the workplace. So what's going on? Why is
- 38:06Speaker 1: it happening so quickly. Well, let's start with the science.
- 38:10Speaker 1: A teament researchers has just published what they're calling the
- 38:13Speaker 1: first publicly available emotion recognition data set, built using a
- 38:18Speaker 1: millimeter with radar, no cameras, no microphones, no wearable devices.
- 38:23Speaker 1: The radar bounds to signals off your chest, picks up
- 38:26Speaker 1: the tiny movements caused by your heartbeat and breathing, and
- 38:29Speaker 1: from that they say it can tell how you're feeling.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Now they've it's been tested in China already, perhaps on
- 38:36Speaker 1: surprising the Shawshank Redemption movie was shown to people to
- 38:43Speaker 1: induce sadness, Wally was shown to people to induce happiness,
- 38:47Speaker 1: and then they measured the signals. But the problem is
- 38:51Speaker 1: with this that of course they don't actually know whether
- 38:54Speaker 1: watching a particular film clip makes you feel what the
- 38:57Speaker 1: researchers say they're feeling, so they can't be sure about that.
- 39:01Speaker 1: And so the question is what exactly is the dataset
- 39:04Speaker 1: capturing And that question matters because, of course it's it's
- 39:08Speaker 1: at the heart of the entire field, because emotion recognition
- 39:12Speaker 1: technology has been around for years, using face scanning, using
- 39:16Speaker 1: voice analysis, using gate detection, all of it operating on
- 39:20Speaker 1: the same claim that your body reliably signals your inner
- 39:24Speaker 1: emotional state and that the machine can read those signals accurately.
- 39:29Speaker 1: The scientific evidence for that claim is, to put it mildly,
- 39:33Speaker 1: pretty thin, which is why the EU has moved to
- 39:37Speaker 1: ban this idea. So on go under Article five to
- 39:40Speaker 1: one f of the EU AI Act, which came into
- 39:43Speaker 1: force in February last year, emotion recognition systems are prohibited
- 39:47Speaker 1: in workplaces and educational institutions across Europe. But it cites
- 39:54Speaker 1: that the technology has limited reliability. It says it has
- 39:58Speaker 1: lack of specificity. But it doesn't of course prevent the
- 40:01Speaker 1: technology being used in a corporate environment at all, just
- 40:05Speaker 1: in education and so on. So in the commercial world
- 40:10Speaker 1: this is plying ahead. And the opening story was talking
- 40:13Speaker 1: about cars because Ford has filed this patent here. Sorry,
- 40:19Speaker 1: I'll go back. Sorry I have missed the graphic out
- 40:22Speaker 1: for that anyway, So Ford has filed a patent on
- 40:25Speaker 1: an in car system that's going to use cameras to
- 40:28Speaker 1: lip read drivers on open top vehicles and to monitor
- 40:33Speaker 1: of facial expressions and body language in real time. The
- 40:38Speaker 1: patent notes that it'll run through cloud servers, meaning that
- 40:41Speaker 1: you face, your expressions you're in fair and emotional state
- 40:44Speaker 1: are likely to be transmitted and stored somewhere that you
- 40:47Speaker 1: won't really know about.
- 40:49Speaker 7: Now.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Ford already uses driver facing cameras in its Blue Cruise system,
- 40:54Speaker 1: but the patent that they've registered extends that infrastructure from
- 40:58Speaker 1: safety monitoring in some thing very different, a system that
- 41:02Speaker 1: watches you and feel how you feel and responds to it.
- 41:06Speaker 1: And of course, since all cars are connected now with
- 41:09Speaker 1: various mobile sim cards, there's just a huge amount of
- 41:13Speaker 1: data going onto the cloud and nobody really knows what
- 41:16Speaker 1: it's being used for. But it's not just cars and
- 41:21Speaker 1: so on, it is the mobile network. So you've got
- 41:23Speaker 1: a quick preview of this. Let's put this one back
- 41:26Speaker 1: on screen because a millimeter with frequencies that are being
- 41:29Speaker 1: used in five G are currently being researched for the
- 41:35Speaker 1: question of whether it can be result in monetization opportunities.
- 41:41Speaker 1: So this is more data connection collection. The idea is
- 41:45Speaker 1: that the mobile network doesn't just carry your data, it
- 41:48Speaker 1: watches you while it does it. So Ericson and Huawei
- 41:51Speaker 1: both have both published technical road maps describing the targeted
- 41:55Speaker 1: use case, which is human activity recognition vital sign monitoring,
- 41:59Speaker 1: gest capture, crowd tracking and so on. So this really
- 42:03Speaker 1: is the Panopticon at work here, And well, what can
- 42:08Speaker 1: we say about that? I don't know, Patrick, have you
- 42:11Speaker 1: got any thoughts on this?
- 42:13Speaker 3: First of all, I mean, not particularly other than this
- 42:18Speaker 3: is just another sort of layer of Google tech that's
- 42:23Speaker 3: being put in. It's the self licking ice cream cone.
- 42:26Speaker 3: That is big tech and applied behavioral psychology. It's absolutely endless.
- 42:33Speaker 3: I've got a very cynical view on this, Mike. Is
- 42:35Speaker 3: just another way to milk money out of the system
- 42:40Speaker 3: and get people to believe that this is something you need.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Out of us as human beings. Yes, indeed, well, thank
- 42:46Speaker 1: you for that the basil. Let's come on to you then,
- 42:49Speaker 1: And I suppose, in a slightly related topic, the question
- 42:53Speaker 1: of because you know, the surveillance and so on is
- 42:56Speaker 1: heavily linked to the question of censorship and whatnot. But
- 43:00Speaker 1: obviously everybody will be awareby an eye of the whole
- 43:02Speaker 1: CanYa West story. But give us your take.
- 43:05Speaker 5: On that, yes, Mike, Well, very quickly, on the forward
- 43:10Speaker 5: monitoring system for cars, you will at some point in
- 43:12Speaker 5: the future when you get in the car, will the
- 43:15Speaker 5: system ascertain whether or not you're in a fit state
- 43:18Speaker 5: emotionally to drive and perhaps disable the car if these
- 43:22Speaker 5: monitors decide that you're too emotional at that moment to
- 43:25Speaker 5: actually turn on the key. But yeah, now this Canyon
- 43:29Speaker 5: West can cancelation of the Wireless Festival story. Actually it
- 43:33Speaker 5: has much deeper undertones. People often talk about falling numbers
- 43:38Speaker 5: at church to indicate that Britain is perhaps no longer
- 43:41Speaker 5: a Christian country. But please bear with me because I
- 43:45Speaker 5: would venture to suggest that there's a current in this
- 43:48Speaker 5: story that highlights the same point. First of all, as
- 43:53Speaker 5: we saw there, the Wireless Festival, which is a three
- 43:56Speaker 5: day event held andy Lee and Finsbury, part focusing on
- 44:00Speaker 5: rap and that sort of music, was due to happen
- 44:04Speaker 5: this year in July, with Kenya West headlining all three nights,
- 44:09Speaker 5: but he was refused a visa to enter the UK
- 44:14Speaker 5: by the Home Secretary Shabana Mamood, resulting in the cancelation
- 44:19Speaker 5: of the whole event thirty pounds lost by festival Republic
- 44:23Speaker 5: the organizers. As we saw now, the Home Secretary, of course,
- 44:27Speaker 5: has tremendous discretionary powers when deciding who to admit to
- 44:32Speaker 5: the UK and who not to Immigration law in the
- 44:35Speaker 5: UK is based on indicative rather than exhaustive God guidance,
- 44:40Speaker 5: meaning that the Home Secretary can do what they like basically,
- 44:44Speaker 5: and in Kenya's case, they decided that his presence would
- 44:48Speaker 5: not be conducive to the public good, relying on the
- 44:53Speaker 5: claim that he's producing, publishing, or distributing material expressing views
- 44:58Speaker 5: which foster hatred and which might lead to intercommunity violence
- 45:03Speaker 5: in the UK. Of course, Kanye famously made all sorts
- 45:06Speaker 5: of remarks about the Jewish community. He did also t
- 45:13Speaker 5: shirts with swastikas on it on them at one point
- 45:16Speaker 5: on his website, various other offenses like this, But he
- 45:19Speaker 5: has rowed back a long way from those sentiments, and
- 45:25Speaker 5: we've got a clip here of him apologizing profusely to
- 45:30Speaker 5: Rabbi Yoshahiu Joseph Pinto. This was in December of November
- 45:38Speaker 5: of last year, and he followed that up in January
- 45:44Speaker 5: with a full page in the Wall Street Journal Believe
- 45:47Speaker 5: it or not, writing I'm not an anser on anti semides,
- 45:53Speaker 5: I love Jewish people, this published by the American Jewish Committee,
- 45:58Speaker 5: adding that he was deeply mortified by his past behavior,
- 46:02Speaker 5: committed to accountability, treatment and meaningful and change. He attributed
- 46:07Speaker 5: his conduct to an undisdiagnosed brain injury and severe mental
- 46:12Speaker 5: health crisis, saying he had lost touch with reality and
- 46:16Speaker 5: experienced a manic episode of psychotic, paranoid and impulsive behavior
- 46:21Speaker 5: and was now seeking stability through treatment and asked only
- 46:25Speaker 5: for patients and understanding as I find my way home.
- 46:32Speaker 5: Further to that, after the release of his twelfth and album, Bully,
- 46:38Speaker 5: which erased all mentions of any such ideology, he was
- 46:42Speaker 5: then announced of as the headliner at Wireless in July
- 46:47Speaker 5: this year, but of course there was an immediate backlash,
- 46:52Speaker 5: particularly from the Jewish community, resulting in not just his
- 46:58Speaker 5: cancelation you know at the festival, but shabanam Mood refusing
- 47:03Speaker 5: to allow him to enter Britain, even though Kenya had said,
- 47:08Speaker 5: I know words aren't enough. I'll have to show change
- 47:12Speaker 5: through my actions. If you're open, I'm here now. He
- 47:16Speaker 5: offered to meet representatives of the UK Jewish community in
- 47:21Speaker 5: order to mend fences, and the Board of Deputies of
- 47:25Speaker 5: British Juth said it was willing to meet him on
- 47:28Speaker 5: the condition that he pulled out of his planned performances. Well,
- 47:35Speaker 5: he didn't need to do that because he wasn't allowed
- 47:38Speaker 5: into Britain at all, whether to mend fences, perform, or
- 47:42Speaker 5: for any other reason. Melvin Ben is the the CEO
- 47:51Speaker 5: of Festival Republic, the organizers of the event, and he
- 47:55Speaker 5: defended the original decision to invite Yeay as he's now called,
- 48:01Speaker 5: saying that he was being given a platform not to
- 48:04Speaker 5: extol opinion of any nature, but only to perform the
- 48:07Speaker 5: songs that are currently paid on the radio stations in
- 48:11Speaker 5: our country and the streaming platforms and listen to and
- 48:15Speaker 5: enjoyed by millions. And Yea himself made a statement on
- 48:24Speaker 5: the sixth of this month saying, I've been following the
- 48:27Speaker 5: conversation around wireless and want to address it directly. My
- 48:30Speaker 5: only goal is to come to London and present a
- 48:33Speaker 5: show of change, bringing unity, peace and love through my music.
- 48:38Speaker 5: I would be grateful for the opportunity to meet with
- 48:40Speaker 5: members of the Jewish community in the UK in person.
- 48:44Speaker 5: I know words aren't enough. I'll have to show change
- 48:47Speaker 5: through my actions. If you're open, I'm here. Well, he's
- 48:52Speaker 5: not here and he's not going to be here. But
- 48:57Speaker 5: what has all this got to do with no longer
- 49:00Speaker 5: being a Christian country? Here in Britain, and I would
- 49:05Speaker 5: refer to the closing remarks by Melvin Ben, the organizer
- 49:10Speaker 5: of the festival, who said forgiveness and giving people a
- 49:13Speaker 5: second chance are becoming a lost virtue in this ever
- 49:18Speaker 5: increasingly divisive world. And I would ask people to reflect
- 49:22Speaker 5: on their instant comments of disgust at the likelihood of
- 49:26Speaker 5: him performing and offers some forgiveness and hope to him,
- 49:31Speaker 5: as I have decided to do so. Yes, it seems
- 49:36Speaker 5: these days forgiveness is in very short supply, even when
- 49:39Speaker 5: in Yeay's case, he's made in profuse apologies, he's done
- 49:44Speaker 5: everything he can verbally to retract his previous statements. But
- 49:49Speaker 5: it seems not enough and he's not to be given
- 49:52Speaker 5: a second chance, certainly, not now, probably not ever, certainly
- 49:56Speaker 5: under the current arrangements. As a coda to this particular story,
- 50:03Speaker 5: the Have I Got News for You TV show tweeted
- 50:09Speaker 5: out a picture of Yay alongside former Labor leader Jeremy
- 50:12Speaker 5: Corbyn with the words can you West has been banned
- 50:16Speaker 5: from entering the UK to play Wireless Festival as it
- 50:19Speaker 5: would have been terrible to have a prominent public figure
- 50:21Speaker 5: going around Finsbury Park, condoning anti Semitism. Of course, Jeremy
- 50:26Speaker 5: represents constituency in Islington which includes Finsbury Park, to which
- 50:33Speaker 5: Corbyn has replied, this is disgraceful, baseless and irresponsible. You
- 50:37Speaker 5: should delete this immediately. They haven't done so, certainly not
- 50:42Speaker 5: of lunchtime today. Corbyn is being encouraged to sue. But
- 50:47Speaker 5: Corbyn being Corbyn, I very much doubt he will do so.
- 50:50Speaker 5: He will allow it to stand.
- 50:53Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, thank you, Basil. Okay, lots to talk about
- 50:56Speaker 1: it next for today, Patrick, let me welcome you back
- 50:59Speaker 1: and let's go back to the Middle East for a
- 51:00Speaker 1: moment and ask what is MI I six doing in Lebanon?
- 51:05Speaker 3: Well, quite a lot. In fact, the British are deeply,
- 51:09Speaker 3: deeply embedded in Lebanese politics here. This is a pretty
- 51:14Speaker 3: stunning piece here by Freddie Ponton. We've got this up
- 51:17Speaker 3: at twenty first century where I put a link in
- 51:20Speaker 3: the show notes for this for today's UK column two
- 51:23Speaker 3: Occupations one Lebanon. What's he talking about? Well, we know
- 51:26Speaker 3: about the Israeli occupation, right, what about the British occupation? Well,
- 51:30Speaker 3: as it turns out here and here's an organization to
- 51:32Speaker 3: look into the Westminster Foundation for Democracy is no benign
- 51:39Speaker 3: NGO handing out civic education pamphlets about democracy and good governance.
- 51:44Speaker 3: It is a Foreign Office, Foreign and Commonwealth Office controlled
- 51:49Speaker 3: instrument whose board was handpicked by Foreign Secretary David Lammy himself,
- 51:54Speaker 3: a parliamentary supporter of Labor. Friends of Israel, was accepted
- 51:59Speaker 3: no less than thirty two thousand pounds from pro Israel
- 52:02Speaker 3: lobbyists to embed British strategic priorities into Lebanon's parliament, while
- 52:09Speaker 3: the IDF burns villages enforces hundreds of thousands from their homes. Now,
- 52:13Speaker 3: the question here, Mike is what are the British strategic
- 52:17Speaker 3: priorities in Lebanon? Could they be by chance Israeli strategic
- 52:23Speaker 3: priorities in Lebanon. I just wonder about that, considering all
- 52:27Speaker 3: of the connections here. So Freddy's kind of really laid
- 52:31Speaker 3: it all out, and it's pretty a damning case. He
- 52:34Speaker 3: also references in here another great journalist, Kit Clarenberg. And
- 52:40Speaker 3: we'll throw this article which is linked in Freddie's piece,
- 52:43Speaker 3: how six have laid Iran the Iran Wars foundations, And
- 52:49Speaker 3: it just gives a historical rundown here of a timeline
- 52:53Speaker 3: that goes right back to the early two thousands to
- 52:55Speaker 3: the present. You can see at every juncture how Britain
- 52:59Speaker 3: has positioned itself very very adeptly and diplomatically as a
- 53:04Speaker 3: type of a nudging exercise with the United States. And
- 53:08Speaker 3: who would be the ultimate beneficiary of this, of course,
- 53:10Speaker 3: it's going to be Israel at the end of the day.
- 53:14Speaker 3: So while the US plays a more prominent role in
- 53:18Speaker 3: this relationship in the geopolitics there, Britain is very much involved.
- 53:23Speaker 3: But the way it positions itself and this situation in
- 53:26Speaker 3: Lebanon is kind of unbelievable that you would allow this organization.
- 53:31Speaker 3: Look into this organization, you'll see it's got tentacles that
- 53:35Speaker 3: reach out to so many different things, including influencers and
- 53:39Speaker 3: so called conservative influencers and other people that are just
- 53:43Speaker 3: all over our social media feeds as well. All the
- 53:46Speaker 3: details are in this report by Freddie Ponton.
- 53:50Speaker 1: Thank you, Patrick, thanks for that. Let's move on to
- 53:53Speaker 1: Burkina Faso and I want to thank Brian for passing
- 53:57Speaker 1: through this article. So let's bring it on screen because
- 54:02Speaker 1: I want to highlight it. It's from Sky News. It's
- 54:05Speaker 1: a typical regime change hit piece with all the usual attributes,
- 54:09Speaker 1: as we'll see in a moment. Now, Boukina Faso, for
- 54:11Speaker 1: those who don't know, is a former French colony right
- 54:15Speaker 1: in the heart of the Sahell in North Africa. It
- 54:18Speaker 1: has seen its fair share of conflict over the years.
- 54:21Speaker 1: Formerly known as Upper Volta, it got independence from France
- 54:24Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and went through two decades of upheaval
- 54:28Speaker 1: and coups until Thomas Sankara took over and yet another
- 54:33Speaker 1: coup in nineteen eighty three. Now Sankara was different. He
- 54:36Speaker 1: was at Shee Guavara type Marxist revolutionary, but he rejected
- 54:42Speaker 1: for an aid. He promoted self reliance, He imparted women,
- 54:46Speaker 1: he promoted literacy, He spoke openly against neo colonialism, and
- 54:49Speaker 1: he was absolutely working to remove weapons from Burkina Faso
- 54:56Speaker 1: and from Africa as a whole. In fact, he was
- 54:58Speaker 1: campaigning hard for that, but then rejecting foreign aid. He
- 55:02Speaker 1: spoke openly about the need for all of Africa to
- 55:05Speaker 1: come together and refuse to repay the dead trap they
- 55:08Speaker 1: were in. And it was a speech that he gave
- 55:11Speaker 1: to the African Union in nineteen eighty three that resulted
- 55:14Speaker 1: in his subsequent assassination. So let's just have a listen
- 55:17Speaker 1: to a few words here from that. Now it isn't French,
- 55:20Speaker 1: but it's subtitleda.
- 55:37Speaker 8: Not to confidence adopts like necessity, the declare.
- 55:44Speaker 9: Bompa very good and still looking up a.
- 55:56Speaker 8: Defence barrio.
- 56:20Speaker 1: So he absolutely understood the implications of what he was
- 56:23Speaker 1: doing there because he said if he didn't get the
- 56:26Speaker 1: support that he needed, he wouldn't be there for the
- 56:28Speaker 1: next conference. And indeed he was not there for the
- 56:31Speaker 1: next conference, and then for the following twenty seven years,
- 56:35Speaker 1: Perkina Faso was run by Blizz Compare, the man who
- 56:39Speaker 1: ordered Sankara's assassination, although the ultimate order probably came from France.
- 56:45Speaker 1: Now Campare was the post finally in twenty fourteen, and
- 56:49Speaker 1: next came democracy, and with democracy came the insurgency, Islamic insurgency. Naturally,
- 56:56Speaker 1: morcups followed. And now the subject of the Sky News
- 56:59Speaker 1: hit we'll just bring back on screen here is Abraham Truary,
- 57:03Speaker 1: who has been in control for the last three years. Now,
- 57:07Speaker 1: Frari positions himself as being the ideological successor to Sankara.
- 57:13Speaker 1: He's openly anti colonial. He rejects foreign aid as a
- 57:15Speaker 1: general rule. And so the question is why are they
- 57:18Speaker 1: running this hit piece. Well, almost the first thing he
- 57:21Speaker 1: did was to pivot to Russia, and the next thing
- 57:24Speaker 1: that he did was to kick out the French. So
- 57:26Speaker 1: no more access to military basis for the French foreign
- 57:29Speaker 1: Legion and the no diplomacy in France either, no diplomatic
- 57:33Speaker 1: efforts to control the situation. And looking at the article,
- 57:37Speaker 1: if we just put it back on screen for a
- 57:38Speaker 1: second and look at the quote on screen, he says,
- 57:40Speaker 1: but as it says, but as he pushes for sovereignty
- 57:43Speaker 1: and freedom from the West, his junta benefits from a
- 57:46Speaker 1: three hundred million dollar loan from the International Monetary Fund
- 57:50Speaker 1: and a four point one billion dollar in credit loans
- 57:52Speaker 1: and grants from the World Bank, while actively eroding civil
- 57:56Speaker 1: liberties internally. Now, at the very best, this is leading.
- 58:00Speaker 1: At worst, it's an outright lie. The intention is simply
- 58:03Speaker 1: to imply that Trollery is a hypocrite for claiming to
- 58:06Speaker 1: be Sankara's successor while doing business with the World Bank
- 58:10Speaker 1: and the IMF. Now, on September the twenty first, twenty
- 58:14Speaker 1: twenty three, the IMF Executive Board did approve a forty
- 58:17Speaker 1: eight month extended Credit Facility arrangement for Bikina Fassil worth
- 58:21Speaker 1: approximately three hundred million dollars. It's been dispersed in tranches
- 58:25Speaker 1: of three of thirty million dollars so far. But this
- 58:29Speaker 1: is peanuts for comparison, Gana's IMF B allot it approved
- 58:33Speaker 1: in twenty to twenty three was three billion dollars. But
- 58:37Speaker 1: it's the characterizing of the four point one billion dollars
- 58:41Speaker 1: as credit loans and grants from the World Bank which
- 58:43Speaker 1: is particularly egregious. So first of all, here we've got
- 58:46Speaker 1: the IMF approval of the loan, but the four point
- 58:50Speaker 1: one billion dollar figure doesn't refer. It's not talking about
- 58:56Speaker 1: World Bank loan or to a grant to Berkina FASOL.
- 58:59Speaker 1: It is the annual budget of the government's own action
- 59:02Speaker 1: Plan for Development and Stabilization, which totals twelve point four
- 59:06Speaker 1: billion over three years and has financed through a combination
- 59:10Speaker 1: of domestic resources, domestic loans and grants, and the Trialy
- 59:16Speaker 1: government's National Development Plan. As I say, partly self funded,
- 59:20Speaker 1: and the loans and grants that come to are from
- 59:22Speaker 1: multiple sources, not from the World Bank. What the World
- 59:26Speaker 1: Bank has actually approved for Bukina Faso. The under this
- 59:30Speaker 1: current government comprises a series of project level grants and
- 59:33Speaker 1: credits and they're around one hundred billion dollars one hundred million,
- 59:37Speaker 1: not billion, one hundred million dollars each. So you know,
- 59:40Speaker 1: this is small beans and for the for the Sky
- 59:46Speaker 1: News to present this in the way that they had
- 59:48Speaker 1: is utterly egregious. So let's just briefly look at what
- 59:51Speaker 1: they did in one article, which we might describe as
- 59:54Speaker 1: regime change features. So they just you know, describing Burkina
- 59:58Speaker 1: Fado Fasois and authoritary in regime, highlighting the disappeared. This
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: is always a feature of regime change media coverage that
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: the authoritarian regime is making their opponents disappear, implications of
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: strange behavior. Now sky News sent a woman to interview
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: this guy who didn't speak French fluently, and so part
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: of the argument here was that he wouldn't speak English. Well,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: this is completely ridiculous. Regime change is anti lg sorry
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: that the regime is anti LGBT is another narrative in
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: this piece. And then of course the insurgency is another thing,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: because they're trying to present this as being something that's
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: going to require foreign intervention, but of course the Islamists
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: are all Western bank backed as usual. Just very briefly, Patrick,
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: this is absolutely a regime change hit piece from Sky
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: News here and something that we've seen so many times
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: from the same kinds of media outlets for so many trees.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: Now. I like how you you've laid out the bullet
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: points there, Mike, these red flags that we look for.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: This is definitely a methodology that we should start everyone
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: should start applying to all of these situations. The one
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: that sticks out from me there, Mike is the all
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: too familiar the weaponization of the LGBT issue. And there's
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: only one reason why they do that, and that is
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: to mobilize activists and mobilize the sort of liberal left
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: in the West to basically take this up as they
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: as a sort of caused azure. And they've they've done
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: this exact same tactic with Syria, They've done it with Russia.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: They do it, they're doing it with Iran as well,
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: and this is how you get people to support the war.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: So these are liberal bombs that we will drop on Bukini,
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: Fassor to liberate the people so that they're more feminist
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: or more LGBT friendly and this is just a tactic,
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: that's all it is. It's to get to get Western consensus,
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: to get Western buy in from the Guardian and some
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: of these types of institutions, to create a consensus that
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: this is something that we need to prioritize in the West.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: So incredible, absolutely, thank you for that, Hi Basil. Let's
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: just finish the program then with your usual Friday slot
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: in case you missed it.
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: Yes, well, good news. Really, it seems that government ministers
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: and civil servants are seriously considering dropping pallenteer, certainly from
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: the NHS. That has prompted the UK boss Louis Moseley
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: to come out complaining about ideologues undermining the wonderful work
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: that his company does. So the break clause in the
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: contracts becomes optional in the near future, so we must
- 1:02:50Speaker 5: all keep the pressure up. There's the petition to sign
- 1:02:52Speaker 5: remember Kokoo's campaign. It's something we've focused on considerably here
- 1:02:56Speaker 5: on UK column and we'll continue to do so. Also,
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: the crisis in the Middle East, the war looks like
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: it's going to push food prices up. Unfortunately, the cost
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: of fertilizer and red diesel used by Farmers has already
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: got up one hundred percent on red diesel and thirty
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: percent on fertilizer apparently, so we can all expect higher
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: food prices at the till, but don't expect cod to
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: be part of your fish and chips, because it seems
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: God's stocks are dangerously low. Believe it or not. I
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: can remember the cod Wars with Iceland in the nineteen seventies,
- 1:03:40Speaker 5: fighting over fishing boundary limits. Well, it seems there isn't
- 1:03:44Speaker 5: any for them, and there isn't any for us either.
- 1:03:47Speaker 5: And finally some good news, Wiki leagues could be on
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: the way back. Unconfirmed yet, but this tweet, this post
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: on x seems to indicate that Dulian is planning a comeback,
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: and he's going to be looking in particular at the
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: machinations of the Democratic National Committee and the United States
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: National Security State. So let's hope here he does come back.
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: I don't think they'll try and extradite him from Australia again,
- 1:04:16Speaker 5: will they for saying the wrong thing? Who knows we're
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: living in a changed world, aren't we, gentlemen?
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: Absolutely? What's the space? Okay, thank you very much for
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: that Basil. Look, we've got to leave it there for today.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: Thank you, Basil Patrick and Mark. Thanks to everybody who's
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: been watching today. If your UK Cale member stay on
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: the live stream, we'll be back for extra in a
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: few minutes time. Otherwise, don't forget jerm and Carl tonight,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: have a great weekend and we will see at one
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: pm as usual on Monday. See you then, Bye bye,