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Gordie Chiesa on the NBA offseason, Key free agents still unsigned, Wemby's Nike shoe deal + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk.
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  Speaker 2: Stay for his list of the day. The list today,
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  Speaker 2: here's oh C with basketball sob on Gordy Chiasa on
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  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Our conversation with our resident NBA guru, Gordia Jays has
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  Speaker 3: now's the time. Gordia Chiersa, Welcome to the show again.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Sean? I am too well, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The dust settling on free agency, NBA trades, personnel movement
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  Speaker 3: and we're getting I think a really solid idea of
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  Speaker 3: who ends up where for this upcoming NBA season. Who
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  Speaker 3: helped themselves the most besides the Sephany six Ers in getting.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron I would say this a few teeth, but in
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  Speaker 4: particular would be the Lakers. How Lebron moved on, but
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  Speaker 4: they've done a good job as far as their additions.
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  Speaker 4: And so the Lakers, I think of it sounds weird
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  Speaker 4: saying the Lakers of old people, but they're vastly underrated.
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  Speaker 4: So meaning that the Lakers who they added, they added
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  Speaker 4: in the off season. First they added former Jazz man
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  Speaker 4: the Colin section, who helped them tremendously. He added Jayden Harden,
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  Speaker 4: who's a scorer. He had a matist eyeball, he had
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  Speaker 4: his dad Williams. They had Kevon Looney and besides Walker
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  Speaker 4: Kessler and so and also Marvel Klabilly and so they
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  Speaker 4: the Lakers, they redirected their efforts. And now obviously the
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  Speaker 4: team is Luca Dodgas and Austin Reefs. So they did
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  Speaker 4: a good job, the Lakers as far as what they're
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  Speaker 4: trying to accomplish it and that's why so the competitive
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  Speaker 4: India in the West quickly. Also just by getting Tobias
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  Speaker 4: Harris the San Antonio Spurs, they did a good job.
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  Speaker 4: So they plugged in a guy that's going to be
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  Speaker 4: able to score the ball from outside rebounding traffic. He's
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  Speaker 4: thirty four years young, he's been in the playoffs many
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  Speaker 4: times already. He'll give another guy to go against the
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  Speaker 4: thunder front line. And also if they get that far,
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  Speaker 4: you get that far again go to Eastern Conference heavyweights.
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  Speaker 1: Around the West.
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  Speaker 3: We were watching the Warriors closely because there was some
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  Speaker 3: idea that maybe Lebron James would have chosen Golden State,
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  Speaker 3: and ultimately he doesn't. Golden State extended Draymond Green, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, so they're like, they're they're keeping the old
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  Speaker 3: crew together to some extent, and even if it's with
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  Speaker 3: bubble gum and band aids. But Draymond Green back for
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  Speaker 3: one year twenty seven point seven.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the right move for a Golden State?
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  Speaker 3: Is that a reasonable salary for Draymond Green, it's the
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  Speaker 3: right move.
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  Speaker 4: Not a good salary twenty seven point seven. Is that
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  Speaker 4: he's declining his skills, and that's a concern. So the
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  Speaker 4: words are saying, basically, we're going to eventually drop down
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  Speaker 4: in the standings, but we have Steph Curry. We're not
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  Speaker 4: going to do that to an organization. And so this
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  Speaker 4: almost like the last hurrah before they really truly rebuilt.
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  Speaker 4: Steph's got two milli years left in his contract. Draymond
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  Speaker 4: signed a one year contract. You mentioned the twenty seven
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  Speaker 4: point seven million. Remember Raymond also opted out of it.
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  Speaker 4: You get them some sort of cap space and timing
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  Speaker 4: to try together Lebron once Lebron went to Philadelphia then
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  Speaker 4: to be signed Drayne for the original contractor twenty seven
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  Speaker 4: point seven. Jimmy Butler is an elephant in the room
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  Speaker 4: when he's there. He's a talented guy, though Moody and
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  Speaker 4: his contract is really a tough one to deal with.
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  Speaker 4: The one next year, meaning the season coming up to
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  Speaker 4: twenty six twenty seven, he make fifty six point eight million.
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  Speaker 4: They'd love to move them on, but there's nobody in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA would take them with that salary. Maybe possibly
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  Speaker 4: during the trading deadline if an elite team needs a
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  Speaker 4: small vote and they're willing to pay half of that salary. Possibly,
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  Speaker 4: but right now, so the Warriors, they're just treading water now.
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  Speaker 4: Jazz Basketball, Hopefully the Jazz are able to leap frog
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  Speaker 4: the Warriors from his reality and the Jazz point of
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  Speaker 4: view is that the Jazz they added some good players,
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  Speaker 4: plus Darren Peterson is the major talent, and now can
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  Speaker 4: they go can they outplay outperform? Say the Warriors, the
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  Speaker 4: mad the Clippers, the Trailblazers, the Tea Wolves, the Suns.
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  Speaker 4: They're all bunched up. All those teams are can THEA
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  Speaker 4: go over them by playing better defense and also getting
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  Speaker 4: more continuity with their with their with their young lineup.
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  Speaker 3: The Nuggets have been shopping Peyton Watson around and apparently
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  Speaker 3: that's coming as the timing gets weird. The price seems
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  Speaker 3: to be coming down. What sort of marketers are going
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  Speaker 3: to be for him?
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  Speaker 4: What he said one is that the hits the dilemma
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  Speaker 4: that a lot of teams have. Re shoot your free
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  Speaker 4: agent means simply for the laymage term, that your present
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  Speaker 4: team wants you on your want you on your organ
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  Speaker 4: in your organization, but we're not going to bid against ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: And so Peyton Watson is this young guy that's really
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  Speaker 4: popped out. It's far in their lineup and it's played well,
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  Speaker 4: even though he got hurt last season, didn't play in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, but set them back as far as being
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  Speaker 4: knocked out early. And so the Devin Nuggets do not
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  Speaker 4: want to overpay dramatically on him. They want them on
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  Speaker 4: the team, and no team is bitten on him right now.
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  Speaker 4: So now it's a wait and see game. Who's going
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  Speaker 4: to blink first? Now, the Nuggets have the forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: If Soon Givesn't a bid and he accepts it, the
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets can match that. So they're waiting for it now.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is what about hurt feelings. I know it
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  Speaker 4: sounds weird singing in the NBA or professional sports, there's
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  Speaker 4: no hurt feeling. These guys are professional. But the answer
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  Speaker 4: is yeah, so that if they do resign them for
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  Speaker 4: less of money, is that what's his mental part of it?
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  Speaker 4: As far as them going forward and as an unbelievable
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  Speaker 4: balancing act, there's three guys out there showing right now
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  Speaker 4: that are out there. They're all restricted free agents, they're
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  Speaker 4: all good players. All three parent teams want them on
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  Speaker 4: their team. But there's certain economics of it. Besides Peyton
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  Speaker 4: Watson of the Devin Nuggets, that's also Jail and Durham
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  Speaker 4: of the Pistons and Benedict Matherin of the Clippers, And
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  Speaker 4: so it's a wait and see game from the player's
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  Speaker 4: point of view, Are you kidding me? Sign me right now?
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  Speaker 4: Or I want out of here? And that might happen
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  Speaker 4: well at that point. Yet usually speaking, it's during the
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  Speaker 4: month of August it gets much more serious. Negotiation up
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  Speaker 4: to that point, everybody's talking friendly later on about a
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  Speaker 4: month from now. It's not sooner. People are going to
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  Speaker 4: act on it as far as either sign and trade
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  Speaker 4: or enough is enough, Well, we'll sign you to our terms,
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  Speaker 4: not your term, because there's no offer on the player.
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  Speaker 3: Victor weman Yama is getting his own signature shoe line
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  Speaker 3: with Nike, a big extension with him at Nike. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to buy some of these shoes, Gordi. You know,
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  Speaker 3: me and you we both talk about Wemby pretty much
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  Speaker 3: every time. Feels like it's appropriate that we have the shoes, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, oh very much, absolutely, and Wemby Nike. He's the
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  Speaker 4: face of the franchise globally, see globally because he's he's
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  Speaker 4: an iconic figure. Ready, let's not forget he's only twenty
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  Speaker 4: two years old. This is the most amazing thing he'll turn.
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  Speaker 4: He'll turn twenty three on next January fourth of twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty seven. And that's how young this guy is. And
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  Speaker 4: so Nike knows that the Olympics are coming up in
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  Speaker 4: La in twenty twenty eight. France is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a major player as far as all sports, but especially
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  Speaker 4: in basketball, and they want Wemby to be locked up
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  Speaker 4: for many many years in their signative shoe, that approach.
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  Speaker 4: Even though everyone loves Wemby, his shoe is so big
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  Speaker 4: as far as a large foot, that people can't relate
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  Speaker 4: to it. So it's almost like step Curvey's the perfect
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  Speaker 4: guy that'd be a shoe contractor because people can relate
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  Speaker 4: to him because he's smallst status And the only player
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  Speaker 4: that ever made that ever made money as far from
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  Speaker 4: a company standpoint on a sneaker basically was Michael Jordan.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be part of me. Two players, Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 4: and also Lebron James as far as Nike making money
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  Speaker 4: on them versus the player making all the money.
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  Speaker 3: Gordon Jaz For another minute or two here on the
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  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show. Another report out there has Wemby hosting
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  Speaker 3: most of the San Antonio Spurs, kind of all the
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  Speaker 3: staple players with the Spurs in France for some informal
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  Speaker 3: team workouts. And I mean, was this common practice? Is
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  Speaker 3: this common practice? And going back to your coaching days,
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  Speaker 3: is this something that you saw guys doing where they'd
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  Speaker 3: fly teammates in and put them up somewhere, and hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's let's get a good run. Obviously it's international now
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  Speaker 3: and this is a headline because it's France. But were
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  Speaker 3: these guys getting together in a more formal pattern in
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  Speaker 3: the offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much answer building and also as far as
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  Speaker 4: the workouts, and usually speaking, there's no coaches involved. There
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  Speaker 4: might be only say one will say trainer as far
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  Speaker 4: as athletic trainer in case of injury. So it's organized,
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  Speaker 4: unorganized as far as run by either Wemby or quote
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  Speaker 4: the captain's. Next part of it is that the players
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  Speaker 4: make so much money, say Wenby type people, they can
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  Speaker 4: fly their teammates in as far as on their courts
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  Speaker 4: because you know they're making so much money. Usually speaking,
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  Speaker 4: when you stay in the States domestically, there's always workouts
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  Speaker 4: in California, usually this month early September before they go
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  Speaker 4: to training camp, and they try to reinforce the team
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  Speaker 4: values of what it's going to take for the for
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  Speaker 4: the season to be successful, and also the mental focus
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  Speaker 4: of it. As far as the quote the grind, So
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  Speaker 4: it does happen usually in California. Now it's more globally
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  Speaker 4: for the players. It's like some of the players now
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  Speaker 4: went to Slovenia also with Luca Lukadantic and so that's
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  Speaker 4: how we've emerged as far as truly a global sport.
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  Speaker 4: Let's point about that, most times when you're a single guy,
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  Speaker 4: you're not married, and you don't have any young children
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  Speaker 4: because most with the players that will say just a
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  Speaker 4: lack of better word, early thirties, thirty something years old,
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  Speaker 4: most of those people might have children that are entering
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  Speaker 4: school usually most times in most states sometime in August.
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  Speaker 4: So they're not going to overseas because they know that
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  Speaker 4: when practice starts is that it's going to be a humbook.
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  Speaker 4: Practice starts in the NBA shown on Tuesday, September twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 4: and so they know that, so they're going to spend
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  Speaker 4: as much time as they can with their young families
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  Speaker 4: versus going to go work out in a foreign country.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, how does marriage change NBA players? If it does?
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  Speaker 1: Got to the.
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  Speaker 4: Midway, no answer is sewn asolutely. Look at it changed you?
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  Speaker 4: Look at for example, change you it changed change peace
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  Speaker 4: and a trusted ally look at you, guys said, though
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  Speaker 4: it does again, I know there's always there's always an outlier.
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  Speaker 4: I get it. But most times when you get married,
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  Speaker 4: you're not being naive, Sean. Is that you have a different,
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  Speaker 4: slightly lifestyle. You probably a home war which is good,
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  Speaker 4: and you probably generally speaking because if you're a partnership
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  Speaker 4: with hey or she, whoever it is, is that you
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  Speaker 4: look at the you do the world differently, and do
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  Speaker 4: you have somebody right next to you through all your
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  Speaker 4: ups and downs of being an NBA or NFL player,
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  Speaker 4: Because we know it's not a perfect thing where there's
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  Speaker 4: so many there's so many good moments and nots of
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  Speaker 4: good moments that your partner or your significant other it's
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  Speaker 4: going to help you get through those moments mentally and physically.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 3: How much of Donovan Mitchell's now wife's music have you
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  Speaker 3: listened to?
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  Speaker 1: Coco Jones R and B.
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  Speaker 3: A Grammy Award winner and the Grammy Award nominee multiple
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  Speaker 3: times over.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to a lot of Coco Jones. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not, but I'm familiar with it though old
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  Speaker 4: kidding his start, I really am, so I know she is,
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  Speaker 4: but I have not listened to her recently. But but Donovan, again,
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  Speaker 4: he's thirty years old. Donovan Mitchell, and so it's good
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  Speaker 4: for him. He'll probably as good as he is right now,
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  Speaker 4: he'll play better now. The problem with a marriage of
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  Speaker 4: that magnitude is that both people usually on both different coasts.
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  Speaker 4: One's going to be East coast, one's going to be
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  Speaker 4: generally speaking, on the West coast, probably in Hollywood. Now,
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  Speaker 4: speaking of Dovin Mitchell for the listeners, he got married
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  Speaker 4: this past weekend in Greenwich, Connecticut, and all his teammates
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  Speaker 4: were there, as far as the Cavaliers. But also shown
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  Speaker 4: was there? I know, Sean, you love this stuff. Bill Matabato,
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  Speaker 4: is there of the heat, Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart
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  Speaker 4: of the hated New York Knickerbockers meaning the Cavs rival
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  Speaker 4: and Jellen Brown. Now the seventy six is they were
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  Speaker 4: all there celebrating Donovan's new marriage. So, Sean, the plot sickens.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, what's your list today?
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  Speaker 4: My list today, Sewan, is absolutely a short list. There's
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  Speaker 4: only eight people on this list, and this is so
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  Speaker 4: unbelievable as far as it's almost impossible to do. Here
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  Speaker 4: we go players who have won an Olympic gold medal,
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  Speaker 4: an NBA title, and an NCAA Championship, so the trifector
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  Speaker 4: only eight people have done it all time. Number eight
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  Speaker 4: Kwi Lavelle Helsinki Olympics in nineteen fifty two, Boston Celtics
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  Speaker 4: two champion chips and one NCAA Championship at Kansas University.
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  Speaker 4: Number seven Quinn Buckner Olympics, Montreal nineteen seventy six gold
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  Speaker 4: Boston Celtics eighty four and the University nineteen seventy six
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  Speaker 4: NCAA Championships. Number six Jerry Lucas Rome, Italy nineteen sixty,
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  Speaker 4: New York Knicks nineteen seventy three, Ohio State nineteen sixty.
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  Speaker 2: K C.
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  Speaker 4: Jones Milpoint Olympics nineteen fifty six, Boston Celtics eight titles.
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  Speaker 4: University of San Francisco two NCAA Championships nineteen fifty five
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  Speaker 4: and fifty six. Number number four his trusted teammate of
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  Speaker 4: all time, Bill Russell, Milpoint Olympics gold medal fifty six,
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  Speaker 4: Boston Celtics eleven times in thirteen years. University of San
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  Speaker 4: Francisco two NCAA titles fifty five, fifty six. Three Anthony
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  Speaker 4: Davis twenty twelve, London Olympics La Lakers one championship Kentucky,
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  Speaker 4: one championship twenty twelve, Number two Magic Johnson nineteen ninety two, Barcelona, Spain, Olympics,
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  Speaker 4: LA Lakers, five championships Michigan State nineteen seventy nine, NCAA title,
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  Speaker 4: number one Michael Jordan, two gold medals, eighty four in
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  Speaker 4: LA ninety two in Barcelona, six championships with the Celtics,
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  Speaker 4: and run with North Count of Tahells in nineteen eighty two.
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  Speaker 4: That's it eight players, but Seawn is one more guy
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  Speaker 4: left out purposely because possibly he could do this. Jellen
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  Speaker 4: Brunson NBA title, Knicks twenty twenty six, rowing Over title
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  Speaker 4: twenty and sixteen, and may the Olympic goals Shawn possibly
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  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty eight if one they won it, and
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  Speaker 4: two gets selected to be a member.
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  Speaker 3: That is Gordy Chase's list of the day here on
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  Speaker 3: ESPN seven M Gordy, I always appreciate your time and
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  Speaker 3: your expertise, my friend.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you and showing the one thing about it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure happy that you're married.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, Gordy. I'm still a mess. I'm still a mess,
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  Speaker 1: but imagine what more a mess I would be if
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  Speaker 1: not for that Oh yikes, okay, yikes, you're
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  Speaker 4: The man, Gordy, thank you, thanks, showing peace out