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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Sweet 16 begins tonight in men's March Madness, NBA history what ifs + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: Peace out.
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Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
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Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
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Speaker 2: the day. My list today, here's oc with basketball sob
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Speaker 2: on Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean O'Connell show.
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Speaker 3: All right, we got a jam packed show today, as
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Speaker 3: I've already told you down here at Big Willie seventeen seventeen,
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Speaker 3: I just ordered myself. You don't have a health nut,
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Speaker 3: so I've heard myself the spinach salad with the goat cheese.
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Speaker 3: Can't wait for it to arrive. Big weekend, you've got
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Speaker 3: March madness. You've got Sweet sixteen games today, tomorrow, this weekend,
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Speaker 3: we've got UFC fight night, We've got PFL fight nights.
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Speaker 3: You've got hockey games. You've got baseball because it's opening
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Speaker 3: day in baseball, and for a very limited time, if
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Speaker 3: you come down here to Big Willies, you get to
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Speaker 3: see the legend Gordy Chiasa because he's hanging out here
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Speaker 3: with me in person, which is always great. Gordy, welcome.
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Speaker 1: How are you, Sean? I'm doing well, Thank you.
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Speaker 3: So we were talking about the sort of bombshell story
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Speaker 3: that Barry bombs dropped on everyone last night on Netflix,
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Speaker 3: saying like, oh yeah, let me tell you how I
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Speaker 3: almost became a New York Yankee, And that's got to
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Speaker 3: be one of the biggest what ifs. What if that
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Speaker 3: had happened, certainly in baseball, but in professional sports, given
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Speaker 3: the legendary status of that franchise and a Barry himself,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine what that marriage would have
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Speaker 3: looked like. We can't imagine it though. For you, who's
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Speaker 3: been around basketball and more importantly sport for your entire life,
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Speaker 3: do you have any what IFFs that you always wonder about?
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Speaker 1: Yes, if back in nineteen eighty five, if the general
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Speaker 1: manager of the Washington at that time was called Bullets,
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Speaker 1: didn't draft the twelfth pick Kenny Green out of Wake Farst,
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Speaker 1: who had a very undistinguished Korea, and would have picked
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Speaker 1: Calm Malone at thirteen, what if? And what if would
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Speaker 1: have been the Jazz franchise would look dramatically different because
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Speaker 1: Frank Laydon, who's in heaven right now, he drafted back
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Speaker 1: to back years John Stockton at sixteen and called alone
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Speaker 1: at thirteen, and they became the absolutely the Jazz cornerstone
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Speaker 1: for the next for the next literally twenty years. And
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Speaker 1: what if That's a big if as far as uh
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Speaker 1: just drafting the right guy that helps the Jazz correctly.
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Speaker 1: So Bob Ferry, what if that is?
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Speaker 3: That is a big one if. Keep yours coming in
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Speaker 3: on the text line eight seven seven three five three
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Speaker 3: zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: But you know, shureing sports is that's a great question.
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Speaker 1: You know, what if? Because so many things that there's
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Speaker 1: so many just happenstances. You've prepare for the draft, whether
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Speaker 1: it's the NFL, the combine, whether it's the NBA or
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball opening day yesterday it was today now
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Speaker 1: Also is that every every team has stories like this
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Speaker 1: where some of it's you. You try to take the
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Speaker 1: risk out of it, but there's always the element of
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Speaker 1: what the unknown. You think there are guys gonna play
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Speaker 1: great for you, and Sony doesn't, or so and so
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Speaker 1: is picked in in saying basketball the second round or
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Speaker 1: undrafted plays great for you, and you can't believe what
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Speaker 1: you're thinking. Wasn't thinking not drafting this guy.
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Speaker 3: There's a there's a thirty for thirty. I love the
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Speaker 3: ESPN thirty for thirty documentary series, and there's one called
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Speaker 3: The Best That Never Was Marcus Duprie. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 3: want I want a whole series about the Best that
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Speaker 3: Never was? Because I think you really could go to
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Speaker 3: every professional franchise, every college, every day high school in
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Speaker 3: the nation, and people there, coaches and fans, they're gonna
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Speaker 3: have a story about what if, like this, about if
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Speaker 3: this guy would have, you know, kept his grades up.
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Speaker 3: What if that guy hadn't got injured, or what if
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Speaker 3: this guy's parents had not gotten divorced and he had
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Speaker 3: to move away or whatever. Right, there's always these stories
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Speaker 3: of the best that never was? What if this would
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Speaker 3: have happened? A little bit differently, and I mean really legitimately.
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Speaker 3: Anywhere I think of my own high school days, I
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Speaker 3: got to think of two guys that should have made
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Speaker 3: it to the NFL, never did anything with themselves, and
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Speaker 3: we sit and play poker with the old buddies, and
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Speaker 3: we bring those things up every now and again. I
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Speaker 3: want a whole documentary series about that for everywhere.
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Speaker 1: Very much add today. So Brandon Roy was Rookie of
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Speaker 1: the Year back in two thousand and five. He had
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Speaker 1: chronic knee injury. And what if Brandon Roy of the
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Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers, if didn't get didn't get hurt as far
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Speaker 1: as knee knee operations and just wearing tear young age,
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Speaker 1: had it retired age twenty nine, the Portland Trailblazers maybe don't,
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Speaker 1: maybe don't draft Dame Lillington. So there's so many different
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Speaker 1: things that happen. Injury is such an important factor in
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Speaker 1: the NBA and the NFL and Major League Baseball and
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Speaker 1: an elite team if one of their guys get hurt
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Speaker 1: and they fall short in the playoffs, that's the ultimate
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Speaker 1: what if. You know, what if, for example, should and
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Speaker 1: yet this Super Bowl, what if bow Knicks didn't get hurt.
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Speaker 1: And what if the crazy weather inn in Denver, the
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Speaker 1: crazy weather where it affected you know, the offensive bow teams.
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Speaker 1: What if who knows.
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Speaker 3: Keep yours coming in? Like I said, eight seven seventy
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Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred, Gardy, Let's shift our
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Speaker 3: focus to the NBA, where you are our resident guru.
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Speaker 3: Most recent outing for the Utah Jazz is an ABYSMBAL
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Speaker 3: performance by Design one thirty three, one ten to the
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Speaker 3: lowly Washington Wizards. I have no issue with it. This
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Speaker 3: is what we need the Jazz to do because of
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Speaker 3: the way that we're getting down to crunch time, only
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Speaker 3: so many regular season games left. You have to make
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Speaker 3: sure that you're not in a position to lose this
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Speaker 3: draft pick. And you're now, I mean, you've already been
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Speaker 3: chastised by the league. You've already had the slap on
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Speaker 3: the wrist, you've already had the fine, you've had to
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Speaker 3: shut everybody down, and you've got guys playing now that
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Speaker 3: I guess the correct way to phrase the question might
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Speaker 3: be like, how do you make it through this stretch
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Speaker 3: without spoiling Ace Bailey and Cody Williams and maybe some
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Speaker 3: of the guys that will be part of your franchise
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Speaker 3: because you don't want to develop bad.
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Speaker 1: Happens, Oh you do not. So with that said, the
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Speaker 1: Jazz less last night to the Washington Wizards that broke
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Speaker 1: their sixteen game losing streak one thirty three to one
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Speaker 1: ten and showings alluding to Cody Williams who had played
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Speaker 1: well twenty four points eleven to twenty shooting and four
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Speaker 1: rebound and what you want to do with him in
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Speaker 1: a spalley is continue developing them in game experience and
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Speaker 1: don't allow them to have any sort of a slippage
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Speaker 1: of habits, meaning what negative habits. And that's why defensively
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Speaker 1: not running back, not running back in the defensive recovery,
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Speaker 1: that offensively, not swinging the ball, shooting with footwork instead
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Speaker 1: of just flinging the ball, and all the things that
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Speaker 1: winning players have to do and be ready to play
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Speaker 1: help to help her defense. The Jazz really, I believe
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Speaker 1: they're secure as far as lest the lot of regards
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Speaker 1: are absolutely against them. On Mother's Day showing that's the
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Speaker 1: lottery day selection on Sunday, May May tenth, and that's
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Speaker 1: going to show everybody what they're going to draft. As
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Speaker 1: far as that and the NBA Draft issue is going
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Speaker 1: to be on June twenty fourth on a Wednesday, the
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Speaker 1: first round and Thursday, June twenty fifth on the second round.
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Speaker 1: So the habits are formed for the Jazz. Last night's
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Speaker 1: game was basically a bunch of boat teams, a bunch
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Speaker 1: of two way players and also guys that are on
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Speaker 1: ten day contracts. There were seven players in the wizzards
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Speaker 1: and double figures and the only the only side note
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Speaker 1: as far as that there was some good effort by
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Speaker 1: John Contard also with the fourteen rebounds, which is good
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Speaker 1: at the guy's sixty six eight points and three blocks.
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Speaker 1: Jazz play again the Nuggets, who are serious now. So
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Speaker 1: the Nuggets are trying to fight, fight and claw to
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Speaker 1: catch the Lakers for the third seed and hold off
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Speaker 1: for the fourth. Right now hold off the fifth seed
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Speaker 1: Tea Wolves and the six feet Rockets. So the Jazz
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Speaker 1: have a really, actually a really tough schedule. The only
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Speaker 1: game that the Jazz are favored in the last nine
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Speaker 1: games would be possibly on April tenth and a Friday
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Speaker 1: night against the Grizzlies. They should be favorite. Here's here's
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Speaker 1: the Jazz quick the schedule. They played the Nuggets mentioned
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Speaker 1: I mentioned on Friday night, then Saturday night at Sun's,
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Speaker 1: next Monday, Calves at home, next Wednesday, the first April,
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Speaker 1: first fools there, imagine a Nugget at home fighting the
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Speaker 1: Rockets away thunder on Sunday, the eighth away. Then then
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Speaker 1: then the the Pelicans and the Grizzlies, and the last
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Speaker 1: game of the year in LA against the Lakers, and
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Speaker 1: the Lakers probably are fighting to hold off the third
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Speaker 1: or fourth seed right now, so the Jazz should have
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Speaker 1: a great opportunity to keep their lottery pick.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Nuggets, so that's an upcoming opponent for
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Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz. The Nuggets got fifty three out of
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Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and Jokic had a twenty twenty twenty triple double. Now,
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Speaker 3: we've seen plenty of games where a guy just goes
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Speaker 3: off right and his teammates facilitate and sometimes stand back
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Speaker 3: in awe. When two guys are doing it at the
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Speaker 3: same time, what is that like for a locker room,
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Speaker 3: for a bend shit center.
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely uplifting, and it's how they did it. Jamal
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Speaker 1: Murray fifty three point. Let's not forget his career highs
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Speaker 1: fifty five points last night against the Mavericks in a
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Speaker 1: one forty two, one thirty five victory at home over
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Speaker 1: the Mavericks. Jamal Murray goes nineteen for twenty eight from
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Speaker 1: the field, nine for fourteen for three. Give me the
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Speaker 1: hassaalk please here at Willie's six to six from the
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Speaker 1: foul line, six rebounds and four assists. And so it
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Speaker 1: was one for the ages. But Jamal Murray now is
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Speaker 1: trusted sidekick, and you could debate that who's number one.
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Speaker 1: It's Nikola Jokic. Last night's game was his thirtieth time
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Speaker 1: this year with a triple double. Thirty times triple double.
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Speaker 1: Just put it in context, John Stockton had one triple
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Speaker 1: double his whole career in nineteen years, and Carl Malone
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Speaker 1: had four triple doubles in his nineteen years in Korea.
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Speaker 1: Joki says thirty in one season. So and Yoki's gonna
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Speaker 1: catch Russell Westbrook for the most ever triple doubles relatively shortly,
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Speaker 1: probably next season. Our Yoki's last night triple double twenty
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Speaker 1: three points, twenty one rebounds, nineteen assists and sean only
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Speaker 1: one turnover. So against the Mavericks defense trying to probably
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Speaker 1: foul them, trip him, hook them, you know, do all
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Speaker 1: the things that players try to do legally and or illegally.
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Speaker 1: He had only has one turnover. And Yokice for everybody
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Speaker 1: that's always so immersive about players jumping so high getting rebounds. Sean,
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Speaker 1: I've coached some guys that can't jump over to Sunday
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Speaker 1: New York times get rebounds. Other guys can jump, parachute,
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Speaker 1: jump up in the air and get very few rebounds.
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Speaker 1: Yokich is the class example. We called it hip to
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Speaker 1: hip rebounder. He goes to the guy's bodies playing against him,
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Speaker 1: uses his hip as far as leverage, and then gets
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Speaker 1: that rebound. And that's what makes him so special. Jokic,
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Speaker 1: now here's a discussion right now, Sean, who's the MVP.
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Speaker 1: There's no bad choices of this when Beyond is barking,
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Speaker 1: which I understand, and he's rightfully so he's saying I
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Speaker 1: should be MVP, which you can make it very very
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Speaker 1: discussion for that. Jokic has been MVP three times, he's
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Speaker 1: been voted for the last five years. He's voting the
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Speaker 1: one or two MVP and the winner last year is
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Speaker 1: Shads Alexander are his Jokics this year, he's first in
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Speaker 1: the NBA in rebounds and first in the NBA and
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Speaker 1: assists assists ten point eight rebounds, twelve point eight rebounds,
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Speaker 1: and he's eight in the NBA in scoring. And he
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Speaker 1: is the sole reason why him and Jamal Murray, both
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Speaker 1: of them duel as far as them winning, Aaron Gordon is,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon is now. He is still not playing right now.
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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray and Nikolai Jokic have only played
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Speaker 1: the whole season this year on the court together, two
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Speaker 1: twenty nine minutes sean total. That's it. Aaron Gordon and
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Speaker 1: Nikolai Jokic and Jamal Murray when they're together as far
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Speaker 1: as any game, the record is seventeen and six. So
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Speaker 1: when they get back Aaron Gordon, don't do not count
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Speaker 1: out the Denver Nuggets. They got back. They got back
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Speaker 1: recently Peyton Watson of the right Hampshire injury, and he's
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Speaker 1: a major young talent for them and the Nuggets will
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Speaker 1: be a force. So to just pay them on Friday night.
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Speaker 1: They pay him on Aprils Follesday, April first here and
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Speaker 1: the Nuggets their series. They're trying, they're trying to bite
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Speaker 1: fighting claw.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday we had one of the least surprising headlines, but
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Speaker 3: still an important one. And we have not yet got
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Speaker 3: Gordy's reaction to the news that the NBA has approved
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Speaker 3: the idea to look at Las Vegas and Seattle's expansion markets.
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Speaker 3: We've touched on this in the past, but it's getting
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Speaker 3: a lot more serious now. We're going to get to
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Speaker 3: it with Gordion chiays. Eric Weddle is still going to
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Speaker 3: join us. At about fifteen minutes. We are full speed
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Speaker 3: ahead on the Shot O'Connell show, coming at you live
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Speaker 3: from Big Willie's March Madness today, PFL Fight Night, UFC
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Speaker 1: M and my list today NCA Universities and state titles.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sha Coddle Show live at Big Willie,
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Speaker 3: seventeen seventeen South May. They've just dropped off the food,
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Speaker 3: the spinach salad. Look, there's a bunch of great bar
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Speaker 3: food here. Gordy got a casada. I got this spinach
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Speaker 3: salad and it's like the black sheep of a bar
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Speaker 3: food menu. Perfectly Chris spinach, an over easy egg on
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Speaker 3: a little half slice of Texas toast, moist, well seasoned,
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Speaker 3: delicious chicken breast sliced up, and some goat cheese so
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Speaker 3: plenty of things on the menu, tater tots, tater kegs,
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Speaker 3: tachos that aren't exactly gonna fit with your diet, but
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Speaker 3: this thing is incredible. Has all the flavor of those
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Speaker 3: delicious bar food items, but a lot healthier. So something
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Speaker 3: for everyone down here at Big Willie's. All right, Gordon
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Speaker 3: and I have discussed this in the past. Gordon Chez
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Speaker 3: is sitting in and now the NBA Board of Governors
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Speaker 3: have approved unanimously to explore the bids and applications for
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Speaker 3: expansion teams in Vegas and in Seattle. It's just in
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Speaker 3: Vegas in Seattle. Nobody else gets to throw their name
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Speaker 3: in the hat, at least in this method of approval.
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Speaker 3: And it's going to cost seven to ten billion dollars
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Speaker 3: for your place at the table. We know what that
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Speaker 3: looks like. It's the jeff Bezos of the world. Elon
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Speaker 3: Musk hasn't really shown a lot of interest in sports
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Speaker 3: at this point. It's venture capital firms, it's foreign investment
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Speaker 3: in some cases. Gordon and I were talking about that
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Speaker 3: during the break. But my question yesterday Gordy, when this
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Speaker 3: again unsurprising headline came out, I was like, Okay, when
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Speaker 3: you look at the fans and you look at the players,
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Speaker 3: and you look at the league as a whole, right now,
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Speaker 3: is the talent pool already excessively dilute? Do we want
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Speaker 3: to add a couple of teams to, you know, make
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Speaker 3: go from thirty to thirty two where suddenly you've now
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Speaker 3: gotten instead of five teams tanking. Now if the rules
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Speaker 3: don't change, now you got seven teams at the bottom
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Speaker 3: of the league tanking. How do you address the the
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say lack of talent, but the
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Speaker 3: disbursement of talent across two whole extra franchises.
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Speaker 1: Well, the way you do that is there's many players
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Speaker 1: in the NBA, in the G League and playing in Europe.
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Speaker 1: The primitive guys could absolutely answer teams. The question is
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Speaker 1: that there's very little as far as big guys, as
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Speaker 1: far as the mount So the expansion teams will have
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of perimitive guys that you can make
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Speaker 1: a narrative that can play in the NBA and play
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Speaker 1: relativity well, but it's the big guys. And so there
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Speaker 1: are enough really big guys, meaning will say either stretch
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Speaker 1: centers that can pick and pop, play outside or play
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Speaker 1: old school bully ball in the lane and get buckets
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Speaker 1: for you as far especially in crunch time. So yes,
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Speaker 1: on perimeter, there's plenty of guys around the world that
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Speaker 1: can play in the play in the NBA and play
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Speaker 1: relatively well. But there's a lack of a numbers of
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Speaker 1: a skilled big players. So that's gonna be the lumber
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Speaker 1: right now. But with that said though, they're gonna go
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Speaker 1: forward with it and there'll be an expansion draft and
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Speaker 1: the target year for the teams to come in is
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Speaker 1: the twenty eight to twenty ninth season and just for
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Speaker 1: the listeners, the last time there was an expansion draft
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Speaker 1: in the NBA and the Jazz were involved with it
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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and four. That's when the Charlotte Bobcats,
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Speaker 1: yes I said Bobcats relocated to New Orleans and after
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Speaker 1: the two thousand and three season, and then New Orleans
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Speaker 1: rebranded their team to be called the Pelicans, then the Bobcats.
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Speaker 1: After setting out just one year of not having a franchise,
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Speaker 1: they started a new franchise for the four to five
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Speaker 1: season and they renamed themselves again the Hornets, So the
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Speaker 1: Bobcats moved to became the Pelicans. There was no team
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Speaker 1: in Charlotte for one year the two thousand and four season.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, they rebranded it to be
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Speaker 1: the the Charlotte Hornets. In jazz, best I remember in
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Speaker 1: jazz basketball, it's called the expansion draft where each team
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Speaker 1: is allowed to protect eight players and the rest of
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Speaker 1: the rosters up as far as interpretation, the expansion team
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Speaker 1: can take one guy if they choose off your roster.
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Speaker 1: The last Jazz player to be an expansion draft was
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Speaker 1: a guy named Sasha Plovich, all right, and he was
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Speaker 1: a Serbian that never played for the bobcast because the
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Speaker 1: Bob got selected him from the Jazz. But he got
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Speaker 1: traded to the Cavaliers and was the starting forward with
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Speaker 1: Lebron James at the Cavaliers. And so what happens that,
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Speaker 1: So the Jazz gave up on Sasha Paulovitch A little
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Speaker 1: side note showing, I know you love Hollywood stories. So
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Speaker 1: in case you're wondering, Nick Busevich, the Serbian guy from
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Speaker 1: the Celtics, his girlfriend is Sasa Pavich's sister. Oh wow,
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Speaker 1: so I know that you love this stuff in Hollywood.
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Speaker 1: You're trying.
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Speaker 3: I love it. I do love it.
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Speaker 1: And so now the owners are gonna benefit, which they
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Speaker 1: should because they have the most risks. Each owner is
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Speaker 1: gonna probably get for the expansion fee, is gonna get
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Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty million dollars or more. So each
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Speaker 1: owner of the NBA will receive for the expansion fee
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Speaker 1: to let to let these two August teams come in
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Speaker 1: as far as in the league and share in the
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Speaker 1: profit as far especially the national TV contracts will get
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Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty million dollars. So it's really bonus
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Speaker 1: for Nomosa insane.
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Speaker 3: We have Sweet sixteen basketball today. If you go to
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Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred sports dot com and check in on
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Speaker 3: your bracket the million Dollar Bracket Challenge, none of us,
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Speaker 3: none of us is going to be winning the none
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Speaker 3: of us is going to be winning the million dollars
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Speaker 3: with a perfect bracket. Gordy, you're above me and you're
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Speaker 3: above James. You've got duke winning at all. Your bracket's
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Speaker 3: relatively healthy.
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Speaker 1: But Sean, I feel bad for you because you would
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Speaker 1: fill out your bracket when you're you're you were talking
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Speaker 1: to the gorillas.
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Speaker 3: That's that is true. So I'll use that as my excuse.
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Speaker 1: No, no for me in fantasy to you, you were
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Speaker 1: you with the gorillas. Not I don't. I don't mean
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Speaker 1: rebound this, I mean as far as the crashing the glass, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean literal mountain guerrillas.
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Speaker 1: Yeeah, exactly. Yeah, Matt's so, really you get a Hall
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Speaker 1: pass this year.
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Speaker 3: It's the first world problem when you're when you're doing
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Speaker 3: something like that.
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Speaker 1: But has anybody got all of them right though? Really
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Speaker 1: in the whole country, no, not one person.
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Speaker 3: No, there's no perfect brackets. Left in any in any place,
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Speaker 3: And I mean it's the odds of getting a fully
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Speaker 3: perfect bracket are in the quintillions, one and a quintillion.
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Speaker 3: It's insane because the permutations are are so obsessive with
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Speaker 3: a bracket like this one. But you know, we've had
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Speaker 3: years where someone will make it into the sweet sixteen
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Speaker 3: still with a perfect bracket or something like that. Already,
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Speaker 3: there's nobody with a perfect bracket in any of the
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Speaker 3: contests around the country.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why it's the great unknown. That's the
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Speaker 1: beauty of March madness. I had the privilege to go
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Speaker 1: to the final four, and let me tell you, it's
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Speaker 1: intense and every possession does matter. Him One time, Sean
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Speaker 1: took about fate and luck. I'll just tell you what
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Speaker 1: happened in nineteen eighty seven. Many people would have been
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Speaker 1: born yet. But here is what happened. Providence College. We're
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Speaker 1: playing in the second round against Austin pay all Right
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Speaker 1: out of Clarksville, Tennessee. The friars are it's a tie
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Speaker 1: score with two seconds left, and we fouled. We fouled
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Speaker 1: the guy going through the basket. The guys in the
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Speaker 1: foul line two shot fouls sewn. With two seconds left,
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Speaker 1: he makes one. The Friars do not advance into the
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Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. The guy misses the first one, we call
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Speaker 1: time out. The guy missed the second one. We missed
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Speaker 1: time to rebound by this crazy Canadian guy named David
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Speaker 1: Kiffer who is from Ontario, Kitchener, Ontario, who's a crazy
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Speaker 1: guy in Providence College who's a good rebounder, and he
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Speaker 1: mistimed it, and the guy missed the tippin' at the buzzer.
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Speaker 1: We go overtime. Believe the kid Donovan, who's not reported
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Speaker 1: might be the head coach in North County of Taheels
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Speaker 1: scores like seven points in the overtime. We beat Austin
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Speaker 1: p then we beat Alabama by fifteen, Then we beat
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Speaker 1: Georgetown by twenty. We get to the final four in
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Speaker 1: New Orleans, then we play Syracuse or Arch Trival and
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Speaker 1: losing the national semi finals. That's talk about luck. Two
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Speaker 1: shot foul, two seconds left, tye score both missed them
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Speaker 1: both and whilso we missed time the rebound. That's even
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Speaker 1: more crazy. It's luck good you.
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Speaker 3: Had Billy Donovan because you brought that up. North Carolina
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Speaker 3: is one of these blue blood jobs, right, Hubert Davis
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Speaker 3: separated from his duties, and there's a big conversation about
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Speaker 3: whether you got to go within the North Carolina family.
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Speaker 3: I know that there's certain places where that's important to
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Speaker 3: a fan base, to an athletic department, et cetera. It
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Speaker 3: feels like maybe now is the time to get away
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Speaker 3: from that for North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: But you tell me that's an understanding, And the answer is,
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Speaker 1: guess what in this social media era, in this nil
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Speaker 1: the whole thing has changed. So the last time that
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Speaker 1: the Carolina tar Hills did not have a Carolina former
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Speaker 1: coach or alumni to be the head mentor of their
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Speaker 1: team was Dean Smith back in nineteen sixty one.
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Speaker 3: Well that worked out, Okay, it worked out pretty good.
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Speaker 1: Dean coached there thirty six years and then coach k
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Speaker 1: Coach Duke for forty two years. Remember now, for the listeners,
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Speaker 1: Chapel Hill and Dorm North Carolina are separated by ten miles,
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Speaker 1: so be like it'd be like Utah and BYU separated
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Speaker 1: ten miles.
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Speaker 3: So Utah stays where they're at and BYU is in Midvale, Midville.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Okay, good, I like that now Midville.
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Speaker 1: That's how crazy it is. Unless you do this for
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Speaker 1: a living or live there, or a graduate of UNLC
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Speaker 1: or of Duke University, you can't imagine like the intensity
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Speaker 1: and the interwoven of alumni that after that. So, Billy Donovan,
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Speaker 1: who's coaching the Bulls right now, and the Bulls are struggling.
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Speaker 1: The record right now the Bulls is twenty nine and
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Speaker 1: forty three. They will make the players for the last
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Speaker 1: three years. Now, if I counsel my former player, Billy Donovan,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying to him, the former a great coach of
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Speaker 1: the Florida Gators. He's in the Hall of Fame. As
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Speaker 1: far as that is, that they hired Billy Donovan, they
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Speaker 1: get a Hall of Fame coach that understands economics the
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Speaker 1: nil money.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: The general manager of the Carolina tar Heels is a
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Speaker 1: former agent, Jim Tanner, and his contract is not up
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Speaker 1: until July thirtieth, so it has to be in lockstep
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Speaker 1: between the king staff and the general manager of the team.
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Speaker 1: So we'll find out.
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Speaker 3: Gordon, do you have a list for US today?
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Speaker 1: List today? My list today is for exclusive list of
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Speaker 1: NBA universities with two or more men's basketball titles. So
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Speaker 1: these blue blood schools two or more, here were you
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Speaker 1: all with two with two titles. Oklahoma State, University of
26:31
Speaker 1: San Francisco, University of Cincinnati, University of Louisville, North China State,
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Speaker 1: and Michigan State who was trying to get their third
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Speaker 1: one because they're in it with three NBA titles. The
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Speaker 1: Villanova Wildcats and University of Florida Gators who won it
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Speaker 1: last year back in twenty twenty five with four NCAA titles.
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Speaker 1: Kandice University the last time was twenty twenty two with
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Speaker 1: five and men's titles. They are Indiana Hoosiers and the
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Speaker 1: Duke blueve Devils who are trying to get their six
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Speaker 1: to one and so the last time the Duke won
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Speaker 1: the championship sewn was two thy fifteen. That's over. It
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Speaker 1: could be eleven years ago with six NBA it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be six ncaaight titles. I just mentioned north Tona Tahels
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Speaker 1: they've been champions for six times, the last time twenty
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Speaker 1: and seventeen. And Yukon Huskies who won it back in
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Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four. They're trying to chase their
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Speaker 1: seventh with eight NCAA Championships is the Kentucky Wildcats. The
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Speaker 1: last title was twenty twelve, and the number one team
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Speaker 1: with the most ever NCAA titles is the UCLA Bruins
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Speaker 1: with eleven. The last time the Bruins won an NCAA
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Speaker 1: championship was nineteen ninety five, which is now the Mets.
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Speaker 1: Correct is thirty one years ago. That's all hard is
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Speaker 1: to win? What about locally here d the rest of Utah?
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Speaker 1: The last time they won an NCAA title in men's
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Speaker 1: basketball was in nineteen forty four. Yes, Sean, I was
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Speaker 1: not born in nineteen forty four, in case you're wondering.
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Speaker 1: That was during World War Two. That was eighty two
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Speaker 1: years ago. That's when standout player was a guy named
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Speaker 1: Arnie Ferron led the youth to the to the NCAA championship.
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Speaker 1: BYU has never won an NCAA men's basketball championship, and
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Speaker 1: they're trying right now hard. Thus, Sean, that's my listener
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Speaker 1: today of NCAA Championships. Who's gonna be? Will it be Yukon,
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Speaker 1: will it be Duke, Will it be Michigan State, will
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Speaker 1: it be and someone else? We're gonna find out.
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Speaker 3: That's Gorda Chiesa, our resident NBA Guru. We're gonna give
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Speaker 3: him some time to eat his casadilla. Eric Weddle's gonna
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Speaker 3: join us on the other side. We're down here at
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Speaker 3: Big Willie's seventeen seventeen, South Maine,