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S4 E6: WR By Committee? · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Fifteen decrease. You can see you breath out in the lake effect breaking tables,
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  Chiso, would you wherese would you have to be? And do ron
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  and NFL content again today and as always, these are my Bill's thoughts set
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  I can let us Where's would you like to be? All right, let's
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  get straight to it. We really appreciate you guys joining us live tonight.
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  I know that you see you don't see the big dump truck. He is
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  on his way. He is he's a businessman. He's got a bunch of
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  different corporate events and different things like that. So he was at one of
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  those corporate events tonight and he is on his way. I'm really really excited
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  about tonight's episode. I am joined by It's funny because Twitter. I was
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  never a big person on Twitter or ex whatever they call it. Now.
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  I don't like really necessarily. I don't I'm not really tech savvy all the
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  time, and I don't understand all the ins and outs. But boy do
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  I love a good debate. And I just really gravitated to these two guys
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  a little while ago. What's spend some time now and we will go back
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  and forth. We don't always agree and that I think that's like one of
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  the points of Twitter and and X and so I love a good debate.
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  I'm joined tonight by my my buddy Matt. You could check him out at
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  Niper Fox, n Y P E R Fox. Holla at the crew,
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  Matt, what's good man? Thanks for joining us tonight. I really appreciate
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  you taking some time out of your night. Man. What's up mane him
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  man? Thanks? Thank you for having me excited. Awesome man, I
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  can't wait to get started. And and also we've got Jake. You could
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  check him out at Big Ball and Bill's holla at the crew, Jake,
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  what's good man? How at the crew? How's it going? Rob Man,
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  it's nice. Thanks for having me on. You know, it's nice
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  to talk to somebody face to face instead of just through the keyboard. Now,
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  now, I can't be as rude here as I would be on Twitter,
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  So I got nice. I've seen you, I've heard you last.
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  Absolutely no, you definitely could be rude. It's all good. It's all
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  a part of the fun, you know. Like I said, I've never
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  been a huge Twitter guy, but for the show purposes, I started to
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  get on there and then I just kind of realized that I, you know,
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  sometimes I like to go back and forth. There are some crazy funck
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  and takes over there, but but it's it's all good fun. So we're
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  all a part of the mafia. Mafia means family, so it's all good
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  here man, like fellas, it's funny because I know that DT will be
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  joining us soon. But this draft was crazy and it was an interesting look
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  at it. And tonight's episode is named because of it. And you know
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  that we do release these episodes. My audience knows on Fridays as well.
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  But boy, man, this is a weird, weird draft for me personally.
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  The way that I dissected I was interesting to get your guys takes on
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  it because it's funny pre draft when Brandon Bean said that, he was,
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  you know, saying that you know, there's no way that we need a
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  wide receiver one and and you know we can just you know, spread it
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  around me and DT we call bullshit on the show. We said that there's
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  no way that he really means that, there's no way that he really thinks
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  that, And I mean, I'll be damned. It seems like the Bills
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  think that there's a wide receiver committee by approach is really going to work for
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  these for these guys, no clear wide receiver one. I didn't make a
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  trade for one, and it's it's interesting. I'm interested to get your takes
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  on it. Jake, what do you think about the fact that the Bills
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  it seems like that Brandon Bean was serious and I never would have pecked him
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  to be serious about that. I thought he was just trying to hold his
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  levers before the draft. Well, I mean, first things first, I
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  stayed up until twelve thirty on the first day of the draft. It just
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  to trade back twice, So I mean that would just that step me in
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  a bit of bad mood. I mean, say, you know, don't
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  get draft crushes because they're never going to pick your draft crushes. And it's
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  it's right. But I really fell in love with exilarly good. I just
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  I imagined him and the Bills offense, Josh rolling out, He's just improvising
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  his way open and Josh is just falling off the sideline chucking it to him
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  deep and he's burning secondaries. And I thought that was gonna be something off.
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  And then you get Kean Coleman. M hm. No, it's not
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  just the forty times the forty time because with what I mean a lot of
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  positions. Forty times doesn't mean jack that's wide receiver. Wide receiver kind of
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  this. You gotta have football seeds. Yeah, Keon colem is faster than
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  he had a full day on the track. So he's faster than that.
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  I think he ran a four or five to two as the Pro day,
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  So he did on the gauntlet drill. He was really fast on that,
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  and that's football speed. You're at least simulating like it. Yeah, but
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  everything I've read from about him since people. I trust people, I respect
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  people. I just run across reading different things on football. He sounds like
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  a support guy. Yeah, it's like, okay, he wins contested catches.
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  Mm hm. He can kind of run routes well, but he just
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  doesn't separate. I was just listening to Matt Harmon before I hopped on.
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  He's like, this guy is the worst separator in the draft. Yeah,
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  that's the most important. That's the most important thing for wide receiver in the
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  NFL is that you can separate, at least if you're going to be a
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  wide receiver one, which we're thinking they're going to do with the thirty third
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  pick, right, So you know, for me, I'm I'm not saying
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  he's gonna suck. I'm just stressing about this because it's like, you gotta
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  get he falls right in your laugh. You got worthy, he falls right
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  in your laugh. And then they trade backed twice to get the worst separator
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  of the top fifteen guys. It's like, oh my god, if this
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  doesn't work out, I don't know, Oh man, that's funny, Matt.
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  I'm interested to get your take because I mean, Bean said it and
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  he you know, he said it pre draft and I really did. I
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  pegged it as he was trying to hold his leverage. You don't want the
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  guys to have more information on you. If they know that you need something,
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  they're going to charge you more. DT and I talked about that.
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  So I thought that the whole conjecture before the draft about not needing a wide
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  receiver one was again truly just just draft fodder and bullshit, and he was
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  just holding his cars to his chest. Matt. It seems like, I
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  mean, it seems like he met that shit because I mean, you know,
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  whatever you want to think about Coleman, and we'll get to him in
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  a minute. But but Brandon Bean really does he has operated like somebody that
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  believes that sentiment to be honest. Oh yeah, for sure. I was
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  punching air, I was punching pillows, I was punching everything on draft night.
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  When if you're worthy big draft crosh of mind, I know you're not
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  supposed to have him. The speed, the route running he got me.
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  Yeah, and when I see when I see him, like, oh,
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  we're running a long time, and it was like traded to the Chiefs.
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  I was not happy. We're going to get to that. Yeah, hell
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  yeah, yeah, I was like, I was like, I wanted worthy,
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  okay, because I just I just felt like that was it. But
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  I think like Joe Brady, he came in and like he was using he
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  was using everyone. He wasn't using Digs Digs. I had him on plenty
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  of fantasy teams. He didn't do anything after Joe Brady came in. No,
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  he didn't he I think that's also part of why they moved off him
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  this offseason. I guess the plan always was wide receiver by committee. We
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  just we just didn't want to believe it. Wow. Wow, It's interesting
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  because I was shocked, really, to be honest, Fellows, I was
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  shocked by the fact that they did not double dip, to be honest,
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  because even if you take Coleman at thirty three and pick up that extra third
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  round pick, I expected them still to double dip and to hit, you
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  know, another draft position. I was really upset about the Ray Davis pick
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  because I thought that right there, why you're grabbing a twenty five year old
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  running back when you need another wide receiver. So I was just I was
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  just really surprised that Brandon Bean didn't take the time to double dip and I'm
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  wondering what you guys think about that, because coming into the draft, it
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  was either trade up for one of the top three guys, which was going
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  to cost a lot of bunny draft capital that I was not necessarily willing to
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  spend. I didn't want to mortgage the future. But if you're not going
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  to do that, that's fine, but you definitely got to double dip.
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  So just see that they did neither and only came away with one. It's
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  got me in a place where I'm a little bit nervous because of the fact
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  that I'm just not sure that the wide receiver by committee approach is going to
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  work. What do you think about that, Jake, Because you know,
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  it's it's cool right now to you know, being you know, trades back
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  and he's he's you know, using the draft. But we really didn't get
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  any more picks, you know, Sal Capaccio talked about it or wgr We
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  didn't pick up more picks. We just maneuvered around the draft and got that
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  extra third that we needed, you know, that we didn't get. So
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  it's interesting. Are you shocked that they didn't double with because that was something
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  that I was definitely not prepared for once, they didn't trade up. No,
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  I mean because I guess I like who they picked in the middle rounds.
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  You know, you might have been able to add a fifth or sixth
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  receiver near the back end of the sixth seventh. But I mean, I
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  like as far as the roles they have in the wide receiver room right now,
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  and I think if he doubled it, he not necessarily find a guy
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  that's going to find himself at all. Maybe push mc collins. You know,
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  you have a guy that can provide something on special teams and he can
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  you know, get open for you if he comes in a reserve or he
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  comes in as a fourth or fifth wide receiver. I wasn't too concerned with
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  that. It was it was a nice narrative going through. And there was
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  a bunch of guys deep that might have been fun, you know, like
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  McCaffrey, Luke McCaffrey would have been fun. They had a couple other really
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  flat specialist type dudes and like the fourth fifth that could have been fun.
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  But you know, they go and they pick up Dwayne Carter and the third
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  and he's going to be a beast for Buffalo Fruit multiple contracts. I really
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  love that pick. What's his face? That linebacker, that linebacker side side
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  seed. I like him too, uh, that hardy guy. Yeah.
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  So I mean I think I'd never have these guys, the outside athletes,
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  and to just have another have a seven five receiver selling. So I'm cool.
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  Oh man, you gotta you gotta let you gotta save me. Matt.
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  Listen, well, you expected the Bills to double dip because you know,
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  it's it's funny, you know, and Jake brings up a good point,
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  you know, But I mean I've just I am not impressed by some
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  of these, some of these bottom of you know, kJ Hamler flyer and
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  Tyro Shaver's flyer and and Justin Shorter back in the day was it was,
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  you know, a top prospect coming out of high school that was a long
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  time ago. Like, are you okay with this approach? Because I was.
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  I was shocked, to be honest. I will talk about the draft
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  picks and get into it, but I mean I just thought that the double
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  dip was was definitely warranted for sure, And I'm just a little bit nervous,
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  that's all. So what what do you think, Matt? Oh?
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  I I agree with you here. I think we have too many redundant skill
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  sets. You have Kinkaid and Coleman, who essentially are gonna look like they
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  do like the same thing, like a big slot you have like Shakir kJ
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  Hamler. You know, you're they're smaller, they can play outside. I
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  don't know if I would love them playing outside full time, right. And
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  then you have your Justin Shorter, You're MATC. Collins, like they can
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  they can get you stuff, but they're not They're not better than what gave
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  Davis did for us. And I really wanted like a nice like a Z
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  type wide receiver, like a Troy Franklin. When he started sliding, I
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  was expecting him to double dip on him or maybe like Brendan Rice out of
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  USC to be played with Caleb Williams. Yeah, yeah, he's got he
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  got the he's got the Jerry Rice blood. And he played with Caleb Williams
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  very similar play style to Allen with all the scrambling, and I thought he
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  would have been a good fit for us, and they just didn't do it.
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  And I like most of our mid round picks okay, but like over
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  tay Kwon Hardy or something I could have seen, like another wide receiver.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's gotta give me. You gotta give me Thermott his
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  cornerback flyer in the sixth rounds every year. I love it. Yeah,
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  it's interesting, you know, like that guy wild Goose or something like that
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  that made another team. But yeah, it's interesting. Shout out to the
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  comment section. We appreciate you k gun out there. Scott. You know,
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  I was on their show the other day. I was telling the fellas
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  before pre show, and they were just blowing my mind with some of their
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  takes about the wide receiver. So you know. But but you know,
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  Scott was with me at least on that one that he definitely thought that they
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  were going to be double different. Shout out to Noah will Go as well
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  out there. One of the OG's a Nickel City crew. We appreciate you.
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  Tell DT to hurry his ass up. It's time. It's time to
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  get to work out here, man. I lyle listen. It's funny,
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  fellas as we transitioned a little bit because before we get to all the draft
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  picks and Coleman specifically because he's obviously the star of the draft, I'm interested
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  in your take on the controversial case trade the double trade back. Listen,
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  I initially, my honest opinion was, initially I did not care necessarily who
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  the receiver was. It didn't rather if it was Worthy, it didn't matter
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  if it was look at, even if it was Coleman or whoever the case
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  may be. I didn't care who CAC liked. I just know that now
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  there is a mandate. And I put it out on Twitter right afterwards that
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  you guys were part of that conversation as well. Listen, Xavier Worthy could
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  never stop us from what we need to get done now. And that's the
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  that's the only shitty part about this trade. I wouldn't have done it.
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  I understand that it takes, you know, balls for Brandon Mean to say,
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  I don't you know, I don't give a shit what you guys are
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  doing. I'm gonna do what's best for the Buffalo Bills, and he definitely
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  desperately wanted that third round pick that they were supposed to get as a cop
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  pick. Boy, if Worthy ever stops us from doing shit, I don't
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  care if it's regular season, I don't care if it's postseason, I'm gonna
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  be pissed. I mean, it's not like I'm gonna be obsessed over him
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  and watching his whole career and checking his stat lines every night. But boy,
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  Jake, if anything ever happens where it's a pivotal game and Zavior Worthy
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  is a part of the outcome where we don't win, I'm gonna be I'm
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  gonna be pissed about it, man, and I'm gonna be watching them just
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  for that particular reason when they were playing against him, oh one hundred percent
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  and being boxed himself into the corner with us when he said, Keon Coleman
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  is my guy. I'm gonna go get him. I can get him at
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  thirty three. That's awesome if it works. If it doesn't work, you
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  just passed on two elite talents, some of the most athletic wide receivers,
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  one of the most athletic receivers that come out in recent drafts, and you
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  passed them there for Keon Coleman. Not only did you do that, you
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  gave them. You gave Xavier Worthy of the fastest guy to ever run a
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  forty yard dash to the Kansasity Chiefs who love to throw a deep the guys
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  that are super bad. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna I mean, if
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  if we're coming in here. We're saying that Keon Coleman isn't coming up to
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  the level of the Savery Worthy, and then we gave him the Kansas City
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  Chiefs. We're just saying, Okay, we're gonna do the Patrick my Home
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  situation all over again. We're gonna have to deal with this. So it's
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  like, you traded the Chiefs, Malone, now you trade them Worthy.
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  So you traded Mahome, you traded them Mahomes is the chief the best quarterback
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  in the league, and then he gave him one of the best targets.
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  That's I mean, that's if you don't know, yeah, yeah, I
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  mean, that's just like being's gone to hang out with this one man because
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  it doesn't work out. He's done. He's done. He said, he
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  done. It's a virerable offense. Listen. I mean, if it's if
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  it's in a big game, it's gonna sting. Obviously, nothing stings more
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  than thirteen seconds. And you know, we don't have to get into that
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  tonight, but you know, like it's funny because the stench of thirteen seconds,
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  Matt, it starts to linger, and it starts to linger. Jake
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  and it's like a situation where, I mean, every year that we don't
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  get it done, that stench gets worse. And I you know, I
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  was talking to, you know, with one of my buddies over the weekend
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  about it, Like, you know, the thirteen seconds is starting to stink
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  even more now because of the fact that we can't get over the hump,
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  and most recently we've been hitting our head on that ceiling of the divisional round
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  against Kansas City or whoever the case may be, Cincinnati the year before.
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  So listen, man, I'm interested because I just don't want to help them.
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  I don't want to help them in any way. And and again I'm
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  not going to be obsessed over Worthy on his career or anything like that,
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  but matchups against Buffalo Matt, I'm going to be looking at this trade and
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  wondering why the hell. Listen, because what Brandon Bean is saying right now
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  is that, you know, well, if we didn't help them and trade
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  with them, then they would have just traded with somebody else. But he
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  doesn't know that. He doesn't know if anybody else is going to give him
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  the package that they want to be able to move up. And I'm just
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  wondering if if this was a bad decision man, And I know that it's
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  ballsy, but what are you your takes on it? Because it blew my
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  mind? And Worthy can never hurt us. That's that's it, man,
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  You put that in stone Worthy could never hurt us. Ever since that trade
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  happened that night, I've had this one reoccurring nightmare. Four than six.
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  The Chiefs are on, there's six yardne gotta go to the whole field.
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  It's like twenty seconds left. Buffalo's up by one little dump off the Worthy
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  house call against like cam Lewis or something, and it's just it. It'll
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  just be killer. I don't think. Yeah, it's a The part that
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  kills me about that is I did the math afterwards. I posted it on
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  Twitter somewhere. Those two trade backs, we only gained like a six round
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  pick in value for moving back so far and losing out on the fifth year
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  option. I know the fIF year options are a little more expensive than they
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  used to be with the market right now, sure, but losing out on
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  that and then taking Coleman when I felt like Worthy and look at where like
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  a tier above him, Okay, it definitely stings. And I don't think
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  Worthy was falling to him because I felt like everyone who picked after us had
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  a need for wide receiver to some extent, and they were all candidates for
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  Worthy. I mean, Ricky Purcell went at pick thirty one, the sandfran
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  right, And you can't tell me that they wouldn't have wanted Worthy more than
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  him. I just don't buy it, right, Yeah, it's funny because
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  now what does that say? Like what does that say about what they think
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  about Coleman? And we're getting ready to dive into him right now, but
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  like, what is that? Because I'm wondering if you were willing to trade
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  back that you obviously were willing to play that game and then the risk and
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  stuff like that. So I'm almost calling bluff on the fact that Coleman was
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  their guy, if that makes any sense, Jake, because like I'm wondered,
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  Like, listen, if I'm willing to go back twice and I see
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  that there's receivers but you know, obviously we know that, you know,
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  he said obviously that you know, Kansas City did not tell him who he
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  was gonna pick, but he had an idea that they were coming up for
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  a receiver. So you don't want Worthy, you don't want look at you
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  don't want or or you just or there's just in a bucket and you're just
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  okay with any of them. So I'm not exactly sure the actual thought process.
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  And I'm wondering what you thought about it, because I'm just wondering were
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  they even that high on Coleman or these guys just all in a bucket and
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  it was like, well, fuck it, you know, let's get this
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  third round pick back because we'll take whoever the other guys don't take. No.
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  I think one hundred percent the bills are just locked in at Colma.
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  He was one of their first yea if I remember yeah, if I remember
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  right, I mean Mac correct me, but I think he was one of
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  the first drafted as far as wide receivers go. And then they were willing
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  to trade back and risk somebody taking him. Yeah, I mean because ever
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  Worthy just fits the Kansas City mold. That's who they've been missing since they
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  they traded Tyreek Hill, and that's what they wanted to get back. I
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  think that was telegraphed, Okay, I mean as as far as you know,
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  maybe to right, that's Carolina took le get right, I think,
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  yes, okay, and that's that's that's their role too. You know.
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  They like those big body guys that can that can stretch, and that's going
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  to really help Bryce over there, the young you know, the young quarterback.
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  But I you know, I mean they focused in. They said,
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  this is our guy. We like him better than any of these outside of
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  the top three. Donsay, Harrison, this is our guy, and we're
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  gonna say, okay, we can get him here. And I think trading
• 19:48
  down just signaled that to everybody. And I mean, if they're right,
• 19:52
  if they're scouting that, they I just thought that it was I mean,
• 19:56
  why not taking him a twenty eighth then because they want that third round pick?
• 20:00
  Then Bean was just getting that third round pick. Okay, that makes
• 20:03
  sense, I think, yeah, because I mean everybody was generally higher I'm
• 20:06
  worthy and generally higher on Yeah, Pierce All was a little bit of a
• 20:08
  surprise. It was I didn't see that. I didn't see Piers All coming.
• 20:11
  I thought he was a mid second round guy. But all right,
• 20:15
  I think you know, they wanted to move up. They wanted to get
• 20:17
  as many starting caliber players as they possibly could, and Dwayne Carter was a
• 20:19
  great pick at the third, and they wouldn't have gotten him probably in the
• 20:22
  fourth, so that worked out great. That's questionable. You know. The
• 20:26
  only thing I'm stressing about is this is like, this is a lot of
• 20:30
  risk on the one position you really had to yet and you're saying that we
• 20:33
  don't need our number one guy. That's it's not wrong necessarily, but it
• 20:40
  just has to work. Yeah, it's gotta work. It does have to
• 20:42
  work as we transition before we get to the rest of the draft picks and
• 20:47
  a rundown. It's it's if we got to talk about Coleman and get into
• 20:49
  him a little bit deeper, Fellas and DT should be on the way.
• 20:53
  You know, when when Coleman was taken, I did not really necessarily think
• 20:59
  that he was the focus of the bills. I didn't, you know,
• 21:02
  but I really obviously don't know who they're gonna take. But I hadn't really
• 21:03
  heard too much buzz about him. But I guess you're right about about that,
• 21:07
  Matt, that you know they brought him in, But they brought in
• 21:10
  a lot of guys for visits, and I think they get thirty of them.
• 21:11
  I don't really I love his highlight tapes obviously, you know. And
• 21:15
  it's a situation where like when those guys are picked and their bills, you
• 21:18
  know, that becomes like our guys like so I was busy on Twitter after
• 21:22
  the pick, you know, defending it because now he's he's a bill,
• 21:25
  so now he's mine, and I quickly I don't give a fuck about a
• 21:30
  forty time. I really don't. I know that you know, it's not
• 21:32
  the fastest or anything like that, but I'm wondering, you know, can
• 21:33
  you win on routes and and you know, how is your release off the
• 21:37
  line of scrimmage, and how do you play against press coverage? And can
• 21:40
  you catch the football, which is your number one job description. I think
• 21:44
  I'm interested to get your guys' take because I think he could snack the ball.
• 21:48
  We all talk about those contested catches. That's one of the things that
• 21:51
  they talk about that you know, his main ability is the fact that he
• 21:52
  can go and get the ball in some bad areas and and that just can't
• 21:56
  be a trait that you can overlook. Contested catches are important. Now,
• 22:00
  obviously you want Josh Allen to throw wide over receivers all the time, but
• 22:03
  that's just not how the NFL work. The windows get smaller than college and
• 22:07
  different things like that. So I'm interested, Matt, what did you think
• 22:08
  about it? Like initially, like is this somebody that you can see working
• 22:11
  out? Because I get all these different opinions on him and where is he
• 22:17
  going to line up and different things like that, and like, I don't
• 22:19
  know, I just felt like a like a father and being all protective.
• 22:22
  Like once he was picked, I'm like, this is my fucking wide receiver.
• 22:26
  You better, you know, stop talking about him. And that's kind
• 22:27
  of just been my approach ever since the draft. Yeah, I agree with
• 22:33
  that. I've been defending him too. I am worried about his route running.
• 22:38
  I know he was dual sport athlete, played basketball and football for a
• 22:42
  while, so but I have his the reception perception numbers up here, and
• 22:48
  they aren't pretty. One one route, the one route that he just got
• 22:53
  on, the flat route, the nine route, thirty seven point eight percent
• 22:57
  success rate, post seventy point eight percent success rate, corner only fifty percent
• 23:04
  out route seventy point like seventy percent. Okay, It's it's not looking good,
• 23:10
  and I know he's raw and it will improve he's talking to Andre Reid.
• 23:15
  That will help, right, But as of right now, I'm he
• 23:18
  can make a guy miss. That is one thing he may not. He's
• 23:22
  big, he's not super fast, but he can make a guy miss.
• 23:26
  I believe he had like a seventeen percent misstackle rate, which is solidly in
• 23:33
  the middle. I have some analytics on missed tackle rate and success like hit
• 23:38
  rate on wide receivers that we can get into later. Okay, but it
• 23:44
  it's solidly in the middle and above a couple of guys like Worthy, who
• 23:47
  would do he would you would expect to be better at that? Okay,
• 23:52
  Well, it's interesting, you know, like Jake, I'm wondering because like
• 23:56
  I hear like, well, you know, he's not really an X and
• 23:57
  then I just heard like the other day earlier the week, like well,
• 24:00
  oh he's more like a big slot and I'm like, wait a minute.
• 24:03
  I thought we had like twenty fucking slot receivers. So I'm like, what
• 24:06
  what is going on? So, you know, it was funny somebody said
• 24:07
  redundant earlier in the show, and like I'm I'm trying to get away from
• 24:11
  that. I understand that, you know, you want variety and different things
• 24:14
  like that. But like I thought that, you know, six' four,
• 24:17
  big body, former basketball player at Michigan State. I thought that this
• 24:19
  is like a true X receiver. Are we supposed to get prepared when training
• 24:23
  came comes, and this guy's not even gonna be on the boundary because like
• 24:26
  I don't even know. Like then, I don't even know what we're doing.
• 24:30
  No match's pointed out, I was watching the same I was looking at
• 24:33
  the same thing with reception procession. And that's the big concern because if you're
• 24:36
  in here, were saying we're going to have our outside guy, but he
• 24:37
  can't separate a different level. That's not an outside guy. I think,
• 24:41
  yeah, you know, but we don't. We don't need a big slot,
• 24:45
  you know. I mean, if we're gonna use well, I don't
• 24:47
  know. I mean, where do you guys see k That's my big question
• 24:51
  Mark. He's a slot. He's perfect. He's cold Beasley but better.
• 24:56
  He was winning at every level of the field bas season. I mean,
• 24:57
  it's forty five targets. Well, he's got targets and he had you know,
• 25:02
  people paying a lot of attentions to Gabe Davis and de fondeg last season,
• 25:06
  but he called eighty six percent of everything that way, and he was
• 25:07
  doing it at seven different levels. So are we signaling that, Cleo,
• 25:12
  secure our guy and we just need the compliment we we have Owen Wilson were
• 25:17
  already Matthew mconney is already here. We got to come play support. That's
• 25:22
  our guy who's gonna go win. Takes the other ways, I mean otherwise.
• 25:26
  I don't see how because he's not. If they're saying this is our
• 25:30
  number one guy, he doesn't have number one wide receiver traits. He has
• 25:33
  really good number two tricks. As far as I'm concerned, matt what do
• 25:37
  you think? Man? Talk me off the ledge? Man? What What's
• 25:40
  I mean? What? What? What are we doing? What are we
• 25:41
  doing? I think there? I think they have to be thinking Dalton k
• 25:45
  and Kaid playing Travis Kelcey's I don't think Shakir came win when he's receiving the
• 25:52
  attention from the top, attention like the same thing happens with Gabe Davis.
• 25:57
  It was he was fantastic wide receiver three, good wide receiver two. At
• 26:03
  the end of that season with Brian the ball, Ken Dorsey came in,
• 26:07
  couldn't use him, right, that's kind of a separate point. But he
• 26:11
  also there was he he did have struggles at times, and I think it's
• 26:15
  the same thing is going to happen if you take Shakir from wide receiver three
• 26:18
  to wide receiver one. Okay, so I feel like you traded up for
• 26:22
  Kinkaid last year. He has to be the main the main target. That's
• 26:26
  you. You traded. You put the most assets into him out of everyone
• 26:30
  else we have in this room of receivers tight ends. I mean, Dawson
• 26:36
  Knox contract very bad. He's he was good, He's a good red zone
• 26:41
  threat, but we have those, right. I think it's Dalton king kid
• 26:45
  or nothing, and if he doesn't pan out, it's it's going to get
• 26:48
  ugly quick. Oh wow, that is that's a hot that's play. I
• 26:52
  wish that was like around the horn that could put the flames behind. That's
• 26:56
  a that's a flaming hot take. That is interesting. I mean, I
• 27:02
  know that they love to tell you about about Dalton Kincaid. I know that
• 27:04
  he you know, he progressed a little bit slower last year, but then
• 27:07
  he started to catch fire towards the end of the year. Fellas but you
• 27:11
  know, those are lofty expectations. If you're expecting a Travis Kelcey, you
• 27:17
  know, that's a that's a high that's a high bar to meat. So
• 27:19
  that'll be interesting. Shout out to Scott at Kego Report. He talking about
• 27:23
  Josh. You know he's got Josh allen Thorne who not Jordan Travis and that
• 27:26
  does that needs something too when he's talking about COVID and I I agree,
• 27:32
  you know, but it's just wow that that one threw me for a loop
• 27:34
  right there night for Fox. Check him out on Instagram, excuse me at
• 27:37
  Twitter, and then also check out my boy Jake at Big ball in Bills
• 27:44
  on Twitter as well. These guys are great conversational Bill's Mafia fans. You
• 27:48
  can get into some fights with them. They'll they'll fight back with you.
• 27:51
  They don't just lay down. I love it, and that's why we became
• 27:55
  Twitter buddies. And now we're now we're family. He's we've got him here
• 27:57
  on the show tonight. Now. Uh as we transition because it's funny because
• 28:02
  when I look at when I look at the offense, and like it's funny,
• 28:07
  how like the transition happened where twelve men on the field and then all
• 28:10
  of a sudden, Ken Dorsey loses his fucking job, and it's like if
• 28:12
  there weren't twelve men on the field with Ken Dorsey have just been the OC
• 28:15
  for the rest of the year, and a lot of people think that he
• 28:18
  would and I probably do tend to lean that way. This guy, Joe
• 28:22
  Brady, I'm giving him grace because of the fact that he was not running
• 28:26
  his system. So I understand that, you know, you can't put in
• 28:27
  a new playbook mid season. You know that's unrealistic. So he's running a
• 28:32
  version of Ken Dorsey's offense last year. I just I'm wondering if this guy
• 28:36
  is gonna run the ball more. We will get to the rest of the
• 28:38
  draft picks, but I mean, I'm starting to see a philosophy shift,
• 28:44
  or at least it seems like that, Okay, we don't need Stefan Diggs
• 28:47
  anymore, we don't need a wide receiver one clear cut. We're gonna spread
• 28:49
  the ball around and then we're gonna get backs and we're gonna pound the ball.
• 28:55
  Now. I think that they ran the ball out of necessity last year
• 28:57
  because Josh was a little bit up and down early in the year, and
• 29:00
  then they had to switch the game plan. He had to do something different
• 29:03
  than what Dorsey was doing. But I think that they got a little bit
• 29:06
  carried away with it. There were some games later in the season Fellas you
• 29:08
  remember, that were close that didn't have to be that close. I am
• 29:11
  a proponent of Babel. I'm a proponent of the you know, the Bills
• 29:15
  that went to the AFC Championship game. I'm a proponent of the Bills that
• 29:18
  you know went to the Division round and thirteen seconds a year after throw,
• 29:23
  throw throw the ball, throw throw, throw the ball. And I want
• 29:27
  that type of approach from my offense. And because of the fact that it
• 29:33
  seems like they want to run it more, that scares the fuck out of
• 29:37
  me. Matt speak to it, please. I'll let Jake speak to it
• 29:40
  because as well, because I am I've literally got to be talked off alleged
• 29:42
  on this one because I just see too many tendencies where I don't know.
• 29:47
  I don't know, Brady, I don't know what your offense is in the
• 29:49
  NFL, really, and then I don't know if you're trying to run the
• 29:53
  ball all the time, Like I speak to it, fellas, please speak
• 29:56
  to it, because I'm I'm a little bit nervous man that they're switching.
• 30:00
  I don't necessarily think that running the ball more is a bad thing. I
• 30:04
  felt like under the Ball and early Dorsey they were I mean, neither of
• 30:10
  them could scheme an effective run game, nor did we have the personnel for
• 30:14
  it, especially through the ball. That offensive line was not good enough,
• 30:18
  and Singletary and Moss struggled because of it. And I with Alan's arm injuries,
• 30:23
  the UCL the shoulder, don't I don't hate taking a little bit off
• 30:29
  him. I do think that Brady needs to diversify his run game. I
• 30:34
  think having Ray Davis will help with that because James Cook he's good, he
• 30:40
  had all those yards, he was phenomenal last year, but he is a
• 30:47
  somewhat limited back. He can't really punch it in. You don't see a
• 30:49
  lot of him in the red zone, where like inside, he's usually outside
• 30:55
  running routes. Right, And I think they need to diverse fire away from
• 31:00
  having Alan pound the ball, and they need to diversify away from Alan having
• 31:03
  to play hero ball because that's what gets us killed with the picks at times.
• 31:07
  Okay, I think that happened last year. Okay, interesting, interesting
• 31:11
  take. You know, Jake, what do you got for me? Man?
• 31:14
  Like the Bills are getting ready to shift their offensive approach, because that
• 31:18
  scares the living daylights out of me. I want to throw it, throw
• 31:21
  it, throw it, throw it, throw it. And I don't.
• 31:23
  I don't really give a shit about the run game. And I'll be the
• 31:26
  first to admit I just don't. I love a game that airs of all
• 31:30
  out. But Matt one hundred percent right, you need to diversify your your
• 31:33
  offensive play call because what teams are doing right now is there sitting back and
• 31:38
  sick shell. Yes, and then you have to force the ball, and
• 31:41
  he's Josh throwing a lot of interceptions or he's throwing dropping the shoulder on linebackers
• 31:45
  and tearing that UCL join over. He can't. I mean, his deep
• 31:51
  ball percentage was awful last years, and I'm not sure that's because the u
• 31:55
  cl Okay, so you know you added, I mean James Cook had a
• 32:00
  great seasons last year. I just pulled it up. He had eleven hundred
• 32:02
  yards, which in yeah, twenty twenty three is fantastic. Did he make
• 32:08
  did he make the Pro Bowl? I don't think he made the Pro Bowler.
• 32:09
  I don't know. Yeah, but even it was the best season as
• 32:13
  a bill for sure. Yeah. But I mean diversify multiplicity, and then
• 32:17
  you pull those safeties in and then now you have plenty of speedy receivers.
• 32:21
  You got Samuel and you got secure on both ends and Kean Coleman that can
• 32:24
  burn a little bit up the middle. You're really open the play calling up
• 32:28
  and that's a little bit more exciting to me, especially when we're sitting here
• 32:30
  saying they don't have their number one guy. You figure to have a committee
• 32:35
  spread the ball college style. You got to open it up with a little
• 32:37
  bit of a little bit of read option, a little bit of a stretch
• 32:39
  plays and things like that. Right. Oh man, my partner in crime
• 32:46
  joining us just got in corporate man Hollow at the Crew DT. Check him
• 32:53
  out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam Rupsick. Are you p c Zyk holler
• 32:59
  at the Crew. Were just digging into a couple of things, DT,
• 33:01
  and I mean, yeah, yeah, I sent you show notes, but
• 33:07
  I I My last question was just you know that there's some we talk about
• 33:12
  bread crumbs, you know that DT and the red crumbs that I'm seeing is
• 33:15
  that I don't know not I'm not trying to make it archaic, not necessarily
• 33:19
  ground and pound, but they the second half of the season, they ran
• 33:23
  the ball a ton, like a fuck ton, and then they got our
• 33:28
  number one wide receiver literally to the point where he's non existing. And you
• 33:31
  know how much I love Diggs, I'm just wondering. I'm giving I was
• 33:36
  telling the fellas that I was giving grace to Brady because of the fact that
• 33:38
  I don't know his offense for sure, you know what I mean. He
• 33:42
  ran with LSU and he's got Burrow and Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. That
• 33:45
  was, you know, one of the best college teams ever. Then he
• 33:47
  goes to Carolina. I think Matt Ruhle fired him because he passed the ball
• 33:51
  too much, you know what I mean. So I'm I'm not exactly sure
• 33:54
  what his offense is on the pro level, but boy, it just seems
• 33:58
  if this guy is getting ready to try to run the ball a lot.
• 34:00
  I just don't know if that's the best recipe for success. Because when we
• 34:04
  were at our greatest, when we were at our our scariest, it was
• 34:07
  when you know, when David was airing it out eleven personnel and letting these
• 34:10
  boys go get that thing. And I don't know. I mean, I'm
• 34:14
  just I don't give it. You know, I don't give a shit about
• 34:15
  it, don't you? Well? What on Nickel City would rob? Our
• 34:21
  guests tonight have been great. I will tell you kudos to our guests tonight
• 34:24
  because on my ride home, I'm trying to get home as fast as possible,
• 34:28
  and I'm getting a few texts from our our great listeners and they say,
• 34:31
  hey, you're not out of the pod, but you got some nice
• 34:35
  guests here, guests. So I know they've been dropping good points all night.
• 34:38
  I'll be uh, and you know, and listen to playback. But
• 34:43
  the point is, and and how many times this is a broken record for
• 34:46
  me on Nickel City crew? Uh huh? One seven is the goods,
• 34:51
  One seven is the prize. One seven is the main event. Okay,
• 34:55
  this team knows this, The organization knows this. Last year, they they
• 35:01
  wanted to get a little off his plate. I think they wanted to bring
• 35:05
  it back the shoulder injury of the UCL that's a great point. They don't
• 35:08
  want the goods being put in harm's way, he will be in harm's way.
• 35:14
  It's inevitable. It's part of the it's part of his game, it's
• 35:16
  part of what makes him great. It's part of what has been what has
• 35:20
  made us one of the most winningest teams in the NFL the past four years.
• 35:23
  But the organization knows this mm HM. The production falls down on the
• 35:29
  on the passing side of things. Whether that was we didn't have the personnel,
• 35:32
  whether that was you know, whatever the case was, why the passing
• 35:37
  offense went down. Instead of it's all in one seven's hands, run it,
• 35:40
  get us everything we have to do, the organization Brady says, let's
• 35:45
  start running the ball more, get it a little off one seven. So
• 35:49
  that was I think them desperately trying to get it off once in a time
• 35:53
  when the back is against the wall. In the second game, was the
• 35:58
  passing game was such a question at that point. There was good games,
• 36:00
  there was bad games. It was literally a coding flip. What you were
• 36:04
  gonna get on the pass game. They said, let's let's peel back on
• 36:08
  one seven doing everything. Let's get a run game going. It was successful.
• 36:12
  We started putting stack and wins got us to the playoffs. I don't
• 36:15
  think the passing game is away. I just think they rode the trend from
• 36:20
  last year of it. They know they have to get more off one seven
• 36:22
  shoulders a good way of doing that, and you and I thoughts would have
• 36:27
  been get a few more receivers, make it a little bit. Them weapons
• 36:30
  make it easier. But just because you can run the ball effectively, and
• 36:34
  they did, they were riding the wave. I don't think that's an identity.
• 36:37
  I think it's what was working, and it's all the goal to keep
• 36:40
  one seven upright. That's the number one goal. You bet you put the
• 36:44
  best line in front of him, whatever you have to do. One seven
• 36:46
  has to be upright for any success because if he goes down, it doesn't
• 36:50
  matter who you have on the team, course route. I'll be the first
• 36:52
  one to say that it's it's we're back to the drought if one seven's off
• 36:55
  this team, no matter what the roster is, so we need to take
• 37:01
  it off of him. That was the way they did that last year.
• 37:05
  They ran the ball, they did it effectively, they rolled the wave.
• 37:07
  It worked, It got us wins, got us the two seed in the
• 37:10
  playoffs. But you don't think that's who Brady is. That's exactly. It's
• 37:15
  not an identity thing. It was he came in kind of took the ship
• 37:20
  that was already sinking, brought it back. And that's tough to say because
• 37:22
  we were never really sinking before you came. And I said, I mean,
• 37:27
  if if Dorsey made that get fired, if it wasn't twelve on the
• 37:30
  field, you know, we all know that. But it was a little
• 37:32
  hectic when he came in. It was the darkest that's been since the drought.
• 37:36
  At six and six. It was the darkest it's been since the drought.
• 37:38
  Sure, I'm going I'm going into Monday morning a little pissed off that
• 37:44
  I haven't been this pissed off on a Monday since the drought. Sure,
• 37:51
  So I don't think it's an identity. I think he took what he had.
• 37:54
  It was working, they took it off one seven shoulders, they stuck,
• 37:58
  they stack wins, they got it done. I don't think it's not
• 38:00
  anything. I'd like to see him spread the ball get out in the past
• 38:02
  game. We will see this year. That's where I'm standing. All right,
• 38:07
  Okay, all right, I'll back, I'll back the fuck off.
• 38:08
  Like I said, I mean, I'm gonna give this guy grace. I'm
• 38:12
  gonna let him implement his offense. He was running Dorsey's offense. He's gonna
• 38:15
  have a chance with off season implement his system. We've got training camp coming
• 38:20
  down the road and later in the summer, so I understand, I'm gonna
• 38:22
  listen. I'm watching him just as hard as I was watching Dorsey when he
• 38:27
  first started, because again I desperately missed, I miss Stable. I just
• 38:30
  I missed those offenses. I missed eleven personnel, I missed throwing the ball
• 38:35
  all over the field. So we'll see. I'll I'll give him grace now
• 38:39
  as we transition before we wrap up tonight, we've got to run through the
• 38:43
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• 39:45
  Everything that he does is funny to me. So hopefully he plays wide
• 39:47
  receiver just as well. DT. What is your Keon Coleman take? Since
• 39:52
  I know you were at an event and you just joined us, give us
• 39:54
  your take as we get ready to run down the draft picks. Yeah,
• 39:59
  I mean, I'll be real quick, I'll catch up here. The I
• 40:00
  I said it Tuesday, and you guys, you know, really got me
• 40:05
  kind of pumped up about that. He reads he wears the red, white
• 40:07
  and blue. He's fucking mind. Let's go. That's what. I love
• 40:13
  that. I love that and I'm inspired by that. So you know,
• 40:16
  you're right, he's mine because he has to be and he is, you
• 40:22
  know, give your kids back, kid. Yeah, we're buying into it.
• 40:27
  It's all good and there's a lot of things. All the negativity and
• 40:30
  the criticisms can be erase because of one seven. You don't have to get
• 40:35
  open. You don't have to it, says Jacob. Jake had some good
• 40:40
  stats about how you do need to get open. That's funny. Well,
• 40:45
  anyway, so the he's our guy, he's got to be our guy.
• 40:50
  He's gonna have to get good playing time. Let's let's give him moving right
• 40:53
  out right off the gate. You hear that? You hear that? Ja
• 40:55
  you what I gotta do with? I mean that DT comes to like literally
• 41:00
  a dump truck, and he's just gonna he's gonna give his takes and I
• 41:02
  love it. I love Kean Colewen. I want nothing more than him to
• 41:07
  have a twelve year career in Buffalo I am just. I mean, I'm
• 41:10
  stressed about a DT. I just I don't know if he fits. I
• 41:14
  don't know. I mean, we're going into this draft and we want our
• 41:15
  number one guy for the next fifteen years. We want sure. Yeah,
• 41:21
  first, I don't know if he's got the trap. Being the first one
• 41:22
  to say it, we were talking pre draft, before Diggs was even traded.
• 41:27
  This draft is the Stefan Bigs succession plan. This has to be the
• 41:30
  succession plan. And and then he gets traded and then it actually is the
• 41:36
  success it has to be. And I mean, yes, I mean there's
• 41:40
  there's some question marks for sure, but I mean I'm buying into the positives.
• 41:45
  I'm buying into. You know, as we talked, yes, maybe
• 41:47
  there was some I'd like to listen back and hear these stats about Josh Allen
• 41:53
  getting people open, because I agree I think that has been a struggle.
• 41:58
  But now maybe that was what we were talking about. And I'm not going
• 42:00
  at Diggs. I'm not attacking one for by any means of this, but
• 42:04
  I'm saying, now, this dude, now he doesn't It's no more tiptoeing
• 42:08
  around. It's your team. You tell people what the fuck you want to
• 42:12
  happen straight up seventeen though, Man, you gotta be agree. I agree.
• 42:15
  I'm not saying this couldn't have happened. Then, I'm just saying,
• 42:19
  now, okay, there's no more excuse like it happened. This has to
• 42:22
  be your squad. You have to get people in places they need to be
• 42:25
  successful, and you have to know where they need to be to be successful.
• 42:30
  So I'm challenging him. I'm confident one seven will prevail in this regard,
• 42:34
  but I'm challenging him. He has to take that step. And that's
• 42:36
  why I'm confident in Kelman, because I believe one seven can get him where
• 42:40
  he needs to be to be successful. Interesting, all right, Matt,
• 42:45
  as we go around the horn and go through this draft real quick, you
• 42:49
  know, second round sixty ath thick cold Bishop, Matt, And you know
• 42:52
  it's like if you can cookie cut like a cookie cutter, McDermott guy,
• 42:58
  just go ahead bloot like pops up pops the cookie man. Cold Bishop seems
• 43:02
  like such a McDermott guy. Former captain out there in Utah can get his
• 43:07
  nose dirty. I like the fact that he doesn't mind tackling. That's one
• 43:10
  of the best things that I love about safeties. And he's rangy, he
• 43:14
  can cover tight ends, he's fast for his four four five speed or something
• 43:17
  like that. Listen, give me your take matt On on Cold Bishop,
• 43:22
  because I think I said it on k Gun Report earlier in the week when
• 43:24
  DT and I were on their show. I think that this guy is literally
• 43:28
  instantly, you know, like in competition for a leadership role down the road.
• 43:32
  Not as a rookie, but I'm saying like I could definitely envision seeing
• 43:35
  us see on this guy's chest in a few years. That's just he seems.
• 43:37
  He screams to me, a McDermott type of guy. Oh, yes,
• 43:43
  for sure, I love I love this pick. Great athlete, he's
• 43:45
  versatile, you can play them all round, free safety, in the box,
• 43:50
  strong safety friends with Kincaide from Utah. Yep, yeah, I don't
• 43:58
  know. But they said they went against each other practice and and Bishop said
• 44:01
  that Bishops said that that he used to eat his lunch and then they and
• 44:05
  then I guess Brandon Bean was like, Okay, we're gonna go ask Dalton
• 44:07
  about that. And then I guess Dalton confirmed that he was always in his
• 44:10
  jersey, so go ahead, Matt, what you just you're just all about
• 44:14
  it? You like it? Yeah, I like it. I don't like
• 44:17
  the roster construction at the safety position though. I actually think it's the worst
• 44:22
  aspect of our current roster, worse than the wide receiver room. What that's
• 44:27
  a that's a hot take. But Taylor Report is a strong safety. He's
• 44:32
  not a good free safety. He struggled at free safety. I know he
• 44:36
  had that pick on Tua that won us the division. He's not a free
• 44:39
  safety. He's not great in the box. He's a strong safety. Okay.
• 44:45
  He also scares me a bit because he does fly around a little too
• 44:49
  much. Sometimes he has he gets out of out of position. I will
• 44:53
  give you that. Mm hmm. Yeah. About Mike Edwards though, Mike
• 44:55
  Edwards comes give one back just on a one year deal. He's only here
• 45:00
  one year and he's probably gonna have a good year and he's going to go
• 45:04
  somewhere else and get more money than we can pay him. And the only
• 45:07
  other free safety we have on the roster is Cam Lewis, and you don't
• 45:09
  want him starting out there. You can play Bishop at you can play Bishop
• 45:14
  at free safety. I don't think he's ready to step into it day one.
• 45:17
  I think he'll need some time, and I think he profiles best as
• 45:22
  a strong safety. He does, so my question for being is who is
• 45:28
  the free safety then? Because Mike, he's only one year, He's not
• 45:34
  supposed to be here long term, and maybe something changes and they are able
• 45:37
  to afford him to keep him around about twenty four though right now, man,
• 45:42
  I mean, I mean with the Super Bowl now, I need twenty
• 45:49
  four interesting take. I definitely do not I would have even never even thought
• 45:53
  of safety. But you're right about the depth. But the weakest position by
• 45:58
  far to me is the why receiver. That's why you know the episode is
• 46:01
  na the way that it is because I'm nervous to sell about it that Jake,
• 46:06
  what do you? What do you got on Cold Bishop? What do
• 46:07
  you what are your thoughts on it? For sure? I mean everyone's really
• 46:10
  excited about this guy because he's like one of the most athletic safeties to come
• 46:14
  out of drafts, like Jabil Peppers. But I'm gonna throw a cold bar
• 46:17
  and everybody is I don't think this guy fits. I just when I saw
• 46:22
  this is like they said, oh the number one knocking him is this coverage
• 46:23
  instincts? What do you need in the Buffalo Bill's defense as a safety as
• 46:28
  an interchange with you need coverage instincs, that's the most important thing. Well,
• 46:30
  how are they I mean this is the new McDermott defense. And we
• 46:35
  saw a little bit before there was injuries with how employer he was using some
• 46:37
  of those body flitches right. See, this is the same thing with Colman.
• 46:43
  I'm just concerned. How are they using him? Is he a support
• 46:45
  subpackaged guy? And really what they need is as a starter. Because I'm
• 46:49
  the number one hater of Raft. He was just out of position all season.
• 46:52
  Last season, they were forced to go his way. He had like
• 46:55
  three or four personal follows on the season that were just agree just because he
• 46:59
  was out of position, trying to make up for true true. So we're
• 47:02
  going into the season with wrapping Edwards at that pick. I really like Bullet.
• 47:07
  I mean, Bullard was the most complete safety indust draft. He was
• 47:09
  gone. He was Bullet. If Bullet survives, do we go with Bishop
• 47:15
  Maybe they seem pretty excited, but everyone seems pretty excited about him. I'm
• 47:17
  just gonna be the jack as ever. I like he's gonna need development.
• 47:23
  I don't think he's gonna be able to pick it up right away, and
• 47:25
  I don't think he's gonna play this year. Well we'll see. Well,
• 47:30
  I think he's gonna have an opportunity to we'll see. DT. What what
• 47:32
  were your thoughts on him, you know, Cold Bishop, because I thought
• 47:35
  I'd never even thought, you know, about the fact that he may not
• 47:37
  fit the scheme. That's that's another interesting take. That's why we brought these
• 47:43
  guys all tonight because you know, you get a chance to get different takes
• 47:45
  and stuff like that. And I like, I like fighting with them.
• 47:47
  I love it on Twitter. It's the best. So yes, let's let's
• 47:50
  fight about him. DT. What do you think, Cold Bishop? I
• 47:52
  mean, as we begin to wrap up tonight and go through these picks,
• 47:55
  Well, I think everyone's positive about him because it's the German guy. Unanimous
• 48:00
  vote of exactly the unanous vote of McDermott is the safety whisper you know,
• 48:05
  if you will, of all accounts. But so that's why everyone's high on
• 48:09
  him, and that's why you know that coming in and he has to be
• 48:13
  And I keep going back to this, it's a broken record. This training
• 48:15
  camp is gonna have to be the most aggressive competitive training camp this team has
• 48:22
  seen, like Josh Allen has seen. I think in Josh Allen's career,
• 48:24
  this training camp's got to be the toughest we you know, you've got to
• 48:29
  bring the dogs forward. And because depth is an issue at a lot of
• 48:31
  positions. I mean, we we got rid of half the teams. We've
• 48:35
  got to refill half the team. There's a lot of question marks. So
• 48:37
  that's it. That's a perfect example of safety. I mean, I again,
• 48:42
  I'm I'll homer out whatever I'm buying into the McDermott hype. I've never
• 48:45
  been worried about his defense. He always seems to find a way no matter
• 48:49
  who's out there, they get it done. And I like it. You
• 48:52
  know, he's a McDermott guy, if you will, and he's gonna come
• 48:55
  in. He's a football player. We saw Jordan Poyer being you know,
• 49:00
  out himself and having to be up in the box and a lot of that
• 49:02
  last year. And if that's what you know Cole Bishop is and a hitter
• 49:07
  in that regard, that that's what we need him to be in that regard
• 49:08
  to. So I'm in on the mc I'm the McDermott whisper, and we'll
• 49:15
  ride with that for not all right, no doubt as we as we move
• 49:17
  on round three, ninety fifth pick. I'll be honest with you guys.
• 49:22
  Before I pass it off to Matt, I quit. I was. I
• 49:27
  was so focused on wide receiver that I skipped over him. And then when
• 49:31
  I was like on Twitter and looking at this guy, then I'd like,
• 49:34
  I'm seeing highlights, I'm seeing interviews for like the Senior Bowl and shit like
• 49:37
  that. I like quickly had a football crush on this guy. Fell in
• 49:40
  love because of his motor and because of his work ethic. He comes from
• 49:45
  his background on him. He comes from a football family. Father played,
• 49:49
  grandfather played, uncle played, and we're talking high level D one football.
• 49:52
  There's just something about coaches, sons. There's something about coming from a sports
• 49:57
  family where it's it's competition and it's real competitive. And I don't know,
• 50:00
  I'm just I'm all in on him. I know the defensive tackle is the
• 50:02
  need for the Bills were what were your thoughts on at nper Fox. I
• 50:06
  mean, it feels it feels like it was value plus need and it's like
• 50:10
  that's the perfect marriage. Sometimes that's really what the draft what you really want
• 50:14
  to get. Yeah, I would. I mocked him to the Bills when
• 50:19
  I when I did a mock draft, I had him and I had Javon
• 50:23
  Solomon. We'll talk about him in a bit. I like both of them.
• 50:29
  High motor, hard worker, productive. I think he's a perfect fit.
• 50:32
  I think he'll be in rotation from day one, and I expect him
• 50:37
  to get a second contract here in Buffalo unless he prices himself out of it,
• 50:42
  which is very possible. Yeah, I mean forever, right, I
• 50:46
  mean so yeah, I do have He isn't always the best against the run.
• 50:52
  When I watched him, there was times where I was like, could
• 50:55
  didn't quite keep the linebackers as clean as you would think. And our linebacker
• 51:00
  are huge here, right, I think they can make it work. You
• 51:02
  have you have good defensive tackles for him to learn from. I think it's
• 51:07
  going to be a home run pick. Nice. What do you think?
• 51:09
  What do you think? Jake? I love this pick. I mean you
• 51:14
  spoke about his character, he talked about his past rushing chaps. I guess
• 51:17
  the only one knock is you know where what's his role outside of just a
• 51:22
  rotational three tech. I don't know. I mean, yeah, they just
• 51:25
  love bodies. That's what mc dermott does. He likes to get he's in
• 51:29
  like a platoon. He doesn't want them. He wants to keep him fresh.
• 51:30
  So yeah, I expect you to see him on the field for sure.
• 51:34
  I mean, can he develop and improve? I'm looking at his status.
• 51:37
  He was pretty solid and depending against the run in college he might not
• 51:42
  have been. He's not the biggest about three hundred pounds, but I mean
• 51:44
  he reminded me of Harrison Phillips though a little bit of a hybrid one tech
• 51:47
  three tech that he can kind of develop a little bit more than those that
• 51:52
  run stuff in chaps and you can see him here for the long run.
• 51:55
  I like that take out. I do like that Harrison Phillips comparison. DT.
• 51:59
  What you think of Dwayne Carter. I know we were at Cagun report.
• 52:02
  I tell tell Nicols City crew, what do you think about him?
• 52:06
  I'll keep it simple. I mean, I don't want to be Kiche,
• 52:07
  but Dwayne Carter. I mean, this dude's gotta have the Little Wayne nickname,
• 52:10
  right. The dude name is Little Wayne Dwayne Carter A little way so
• 52:15
  let's we'll stop saying that Tilly Rocks, but I'll keep it simple. Captain
• 52:22
  football family, Duke, you talk about McDermott likes bodies. How about a
• 52:27
  slide by in the big body big that was only three hundred but a thick
• 52:31
  base we talked about the other night. Yeah, and DTU A lot of
• 52:37
  veteran dts that have taught each other in their careers. Now they teach this
• 52:40
  cat coming in. That's gonna be gonna be good. So I like it
• 52:45
  A good fit for the team. Yeah, the rotational defensive tackle, you
• 52:49
  can never really have enough of them. We lost some guys, you know,
• 52:52
  the free agency or what the case may be. So I like to
• 52:54
  pick a lot for sure. Now round four, this is the one.
• 52:57
  As we go through, I was mad. I was, and I alluded
• 53:00
  to it before you got here. DT. I wanted another wide receiver.
• 53:02
  I wanted to double dip. I understand that this guy Ray Davis can catch
• 53:07
  the ball, and you know he's got the most receiving running back touchdowns out
• 53:13
  in the SEC history or something crazy like that. Listen, or in a
• 53:15
  season or something like that. Listen. I get it, Ty Johnson,
• 53:19
  I could have sworn with a backup running back like I just I don't know.
• 53:22
  I'll give it to our guest tonight because I just don't give a shit
• 53:25
  about running back, let alone one in the fourth round, I wanted another
• 53:29
  receiver, So, Matt, I mean, you can tell me all cool
• 53:31
  stats, Jake, you can tell me cool stats, but you could get
• 53:34
  it out to the listeners because I'm gonna just plug my ears. I don't
• 53:37
  give a shit. I don't. But yes, he's a He's a thick
• 53:39
  guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield. So what were your
• 53:43
  thoughts on a night for Fox? I let the crew man. I'm sorry
• 53:45
  that the crew knows me. Man. They know I'm ignorant when it comes
• 53:47
  to wide receivers. Man, I want my ship, man, I want
• 53:51
  to score, score score. What do you think of Ray Davis running back
• 53:53
  out of Kentucky. I think he's a good fit. Reminds me of James
• 53:59
  Cook. Little bit bigger, a little bit slower, still explosive. I
• 54:02
  think he'll He's a nice blend between him and Allen Okay, and I think
• 54:07
  he'll put you our running back too. I'm not super worried about his age
• 54:09
  because I don't believe in really giving running backs such a contract, right,
• 54:14
  someone really phenomenal. Okay, so I think I'm fine with the pick.
• 54:20
  I don't love how much we've spent on running backs compared to wide receivers in
• 54:24
  the Bean era. Yes, but I don't think it's a bad pick.
• 54:30
  Okay, Okay, what about you, Jake? What do you think?
• 54:34
  I like this guy? He's just he's all around. He's the bell call
• 54:37
  style back in the non bell cover era. So he's gonna a company.
• 54:40
  He's gonna play right away. He's gonna get those North South runs that James
• 54:44
  Cook gets the greatest at. And he's also he's fast enough he can get
• 54:46
  outside and get past the safety, and he's got a stylid receiving chops receiving
• 54:51
  jobs. So I it's just a it's a good pick. Guy that's gonna
• 54:53
  get a lot of play and fourth round pick. Let's go DT. What
• 54:58
  do you got? I didn't I didn't plug my ears. It's okay,
• 55:00
  I'll take him. I mean he's he could, he can back up James
• 55:05
  Cook. I'm not mad. I'm not mad uh anymore because the drafts over.
• 55:07
  But I was pissed that night because I wanted to so competition strong him
• 55:12
  and Ty Johnson canna be battling for that, you know, for a legit
• 55:15
  playing time spot. His his highlights are nice. He had leadership and proven
• 55:21
  skills at each level. I like, you know, they they show the
• 55:24
  one play he can block, They say he can he can pick up blitzes.
• 55:28
  But the play that shows him picking up a blitz he's just getting absolutely
• 55:31
  lit up. But he does. The guy doesn't get to the quarterback,
• 55:35
  So I guess that's picking up a block. And you know, in the
• 55:37
  NFL, those guys are gonna be a lot bigger and faster, so we'll
• 55:39
  see how the speed translates, you know, but it seems like he's he
• 55:44
  reminded, he's not anywhere near the I'm not comparing him to Lashawan McCoy,
• 55:49
  but in that first that first those highlight reels of that first cut, he
• 55:53
  you know, he has that nice lateral movement that thats me a shady So
• 55:58
  you know, if he can come in and and be elusive, give give
• 56:00
  James cuck some water here and there, and you know, God forbid anybody
• 56:04
  fumbles, they're not gonna be playing in the next couple of quarters. Right,
• 56:06
  that's what you know, and I love it. Round five we take
• 56:15
  we take Cedric van Priyan Granger the center from Georgia. I think it was
• 56:19
  like a two time starter on a national championship. I'm assuming with Georgia it
• 56:24
  looks like he could be possibly. I don't know if this pick means that
• 56:28
  we can move up mcgovernn back to guard and and and keep everything kind of
• 56:31
  status quo and he comes in as an actual replacement for Mitch Morris, or
• 56:37
  if the bill is actually an Aaron Kromer decide to really move McGovern out the
• 56:39
  center. But it'll be interesting to see you on that one. I want
• 56:43
  your just quick takes on these guys and then you let me know who your
• 56:45
  favorite ones were. We've got uh Eddie Ula Fohio. They say that you
• 56:50
  know special teams guy, or you know a guy that's gonna, you know,
• 56:52
  hit some people place fast, that type of thing. So you guys
• 56:54
  give me your takes. And then the one that you were talking about earlier,
• 56:58
  Matt h Niper Fox Javon Solomon, the sack king last year led the
• 57:02
  FBS in sacks sixteen sacks last year running out we had tailand Gabe grabil And
• 57:07
  and Dawan Hardy, you guys already talked about earlier than Travis Clayton Guard.
• 57:10
  So those last guys will be fighting for roster spots. But between Solomon Olafucio
• 57:16
  uh And And and Cedric Van Prayan Grainger, who is your favorite pick,
• 57:21
  Matt, Because I heard some people really high on Van Pray Granger and I'm
• 57:25
  just wondering, like, can we just keep everything the same that it was
• 57:29
  last year because we had a great line for once and then you know,
• 57:32
  the only thing that's changing out is Morse, But now we're going to be
• 57:36
  moving people around, Like I don't I don't necessarily know if that's necessary or
• 57:38
  not with this guy being picked. Yeah, ravon Solomon favorite pick there?
• 57:45
  Okay, I really liked him. He's productive, he's got he's got good
• 57:51
  arm blanth not he's not huge, but it's like a he made it work
• 57:54
  and there's there's been other edge rushers with his type of build who have succeeded.
• 58:01
  Yeah, he looks like Jerry Hughes. To me, he looks like
• 58:02
  a Jerry Hughes type. Yeah. I think I see him as another day
• 58:07
  one in the rotation. Van Pran. I could see him starting at center,
• 58:14
  Okay. I would depend on what they see from him in camp.
• 58:16
  But if he has a good camp, he's got the connection with James Cook.
• 58:21
  Okay. I don't know why he was there so late, and I
• 58:22
  think it's going to be another sarahso Torrens situation where it's like, how do
• 58:27
  they let this guy fall? Okay, And I could see him starting day
• 58:30
  one. That'd be perfect for me. I'd I'd love to just keep McGovern
• 58:34
  where he's at. What do you got, Jake? I mean, who
• 58:36
  is some of your favorite picks out of those last three that we highlighted,
• 58:37
  because I know as you get towards the back end of the draft, they're
• 58:42
  more just a lotto picks. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to ruin
• 58:45
  debate hour, but I'm just gonna agree with Matt. He's right, Tom.
• 58:50
  I mean, but Van pram Granger. I was doing my my early
• 58:52
  season, not draft man. I really like the Dan Grange guy, and
• 58:55
  I really liked him in the third hen in Yes out good run Soccer.
• 59:00
  He's flid in the past game, just an all round guy that can hold
• 59:05
  your pivot point. And he did the Georgia, which is the closest thing
• 59:07
  you can get to pro level competition in the college level New championships one or
• 59:12
  two championships there or whatever I think he did. Yeah, so you mean
• 59:15
  you don't expect fifth round picks to come in and start right away. But
• 59:19
  you know what, I'm going to join on the hot Tay train. I
• 59:21
  think it's happening. We're gonna push Edwards back to rotational guard and right Van
• 59:24
  prim Grainger in there, and you'd have four out of five starters returning.
• 59:29
  Yeah, you'd have four out of five starters returning from left to right,
• 59:31
  and then you don't only have to worry about replacing Morse. That would be
• 59:35
  nice. I'd like to keep DT. You know, you're the old line
• 59:37
  hater, but you got to admit that the old line was better last year.
• 59:40
  I would like to keep the old line, just I like it set
• 59:44
  up when they when I heard that they were letting Morse go, it was
• 59:46
  surprising, for sure. It was probably the most surprising of all of those
• 59:51
  releases that one bloody day when we released all the guys. But like when
• 59:53
  I was like, well, damn, now they're going to move to govern
• 59:55
  and I just like I liked the fact that those I mean, it's definitely
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  rare to not be injured. And but man, they played all every every
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  game together. That was really, really fucking impressive, even with Torrance as
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  a rookie. So I would love to be able to keep mcgovernor that left
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  guard and just just let's keep rolling. Well you just said it. Torrence
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  came in and played every snap for the Bills last Yeah, yeah, every
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  snap and starts and didn't and and did great, you know, barely led.
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  He was what one sack, yep, one sack in the in the
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  entire season. So you know, coming into the if you're if you show
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  you can play as a rookie, you know you you can get in on
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  this offensive line and move McGovern back. I could agree with that. You
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  can't say it enough SEC National Championship contenders, like it's the closest to Pro
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  ball as it gets. And then you go to the line. I'm not
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  even gonna attempt to name Washington linebacker. I think captain captain special National Championship
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  yet the National Championship Yeah so so so we're rocking with you know, the
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  guys who know how to win at the highest level now coming in and they
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  got to win now. But I like Hardy from Penn State. I think
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  that's a guy with the type of Christian Benford type or around him. You
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  know, a guy that can come in and and a place where we were
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  talking about speed this he's quick, you know, he he might be able
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  to I'm not I don't want to put him on the return kick train yet,
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  but that's what that's what said earlier. He wants to put hard back
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  for the new kickoff rule. Yeah, okay, yeah, there we go.
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  Yeah stop So with that, I mean the I like him at Penn
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  State. I'm a I'm kind of biased Penn State. We got a few
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  boys on the team now ready to rock with Penn State. He brings you
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  to speed in the back. I obviously like the front end of that fifth
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  round. You know Solomon, I think it's gonna be good too. But
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  you know, Hardy, I'm gonna put him as my dark horse of this
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  draft to get a nice roster spot. You start seeing him on Sundays.
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  I like it because any guy was last three, it's Hardy because he fits
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  writing perfectly with your specialty. He can come in as a gun or any
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  coming as a returner, you know, nickel back up. Yeah, sure,
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  what were you say for Hardy? I took him as a practice squad
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  stash in the vein of Elam, Like Elam, a little less polished coming
• 1:02:32
  out of college. Perhaps I think that that last corner spot is JaMarcus Ingram's
• 1:02:38
  this year University of Buffalo product. He's been great when he's played. I
• 1:02:44
  don't believe he's actually let up a catch if I remember when he the limited
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  amount of time he's played, okay, and I would like to see him
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  make the roster and be above Elam based on what I've seen from the tail.
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  If I'm so far, you can't write him, you can't do shit
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  with him. He just got to either figure it out or he's just gonna
• 1:03:00
  sit on the fucking bench. And that that literally is it. Like this
• 1:03:04
  is one of those pivot years where I mean, if you can't, if
• 1:03:06
  you still can't show anything, then then you're just gonna lose all your trade
• 1:03:08
  value. So he'll just be He'll just be, uh, a tracksuit guy.
• 1:03:13
  I was just hanging it out in the track suit. You're not giving
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  that guy a jersey if he can't get his ship together this offseason, so
• 1:03:19
  we'll see. Listen, I I really really appreciate you guys tonight. Tell
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  them where they could check you out. Jake, please on Twitter. Yeah,
• 1:03:28
  I'm just just on Twitter nowadays, just you know, stealing hot takes
• 1:03:30
  and picking fights. I'm getting kind of I'm getting older. I'm not turn
• 1:03:35
  thirty three and getting kind of grumpy. So I don't like the fight as
• 1:03:37
  much as only with Rob see whatever crazy thing he's saying that day. But
• 1:03:43
  I love it. I love it big don Bill's hit me a follow if
• 1:03:47
  you want. You know, it's mostly I don't do you know, no
• 1:03:51
  politics or you know, no debating by anything that really matters, just sports.
• 1:03:53
  Scooping off means more of the rings. You know, you'll see some
• 1:03:57
  more of the rings gifts from me and once in a while. You know,
• 1:04:00
  I love you. I really appreciate you joining us tonight as well.
• 1:04:03
  And one of my other favorite follows, uh, tell them where you can
• 1:04:06
  where they could find you. Matt. We really appreciate that. I wanted
• 1:04:10
  to see your face, but we understand you had some issues and that's all
• 1:04:13
  good talk. Talk to him. Tell them where they could check you out.
• 1:04:15
  Man, The Nicol City crew. We're going to try to get his
• 1:04:16
  follows. Oh yeah, that's I got it right in the title there sports,
• 1:04:24
  Yeah, there you go. Yeah, talk sports, a little bit
• 1:04:28
  of a little bit of everything, you know, but mainly mainly Bills.
• 1:04:32
  And I'm I'm excited to see how this how this draft class fans out especially
• 1:04:39
  are the seventh round guy there, the from Europe, the rugby player.
• 1:04:43
  Sure, I think it was athletic specimen. Use a roster spot. I
• 1:04:49
  don't have to use a roster too. Yeah, I think said I think
• 1:04:54
  being said that he is a part of the Pathway program. So yeah,
• 1:04:56
  he'd be like he'd be like Christian Wade. Yeah, all right. I
• 1:05:00
  wish I wish they could have got Christian Wade playing. I think he would
• 1:05:02
  have been so good. We just had too many running backs at the time.
• 1:05:05
  We did have a lot of running backs. You know. He was
• 1:05:08
  he was the preseason sensation at the time. Well, I I appreciate you
• 1:05:13
  guys, man, I appreciate you guys joining us tonight. D T.
• 1:05:16
  You came late, but you but you still brought it. And that's why
• 1:05:19
  that's why I love you. Man, my brother from another Bill's mother.
• 1:05:21
  Man, you you brought it as always. I love you man. Next
• 1:05:26
  week Nickel City Crew my favorite non game day event, way over the draft.
• 1:05:32
  I mean, I just I just get I don't even know. I'm
• 1:05:34
  I'm a nerd like that, I'm a geek like that, and I just
• 1:05:38
  schedule releas. There are rumors that schedules coming out next week of Bill's Mafia,
• 1:05:43
  and we are going to be all here for it. We're hoping that
• 1:05:45
  it does come out next Thursday because that just lines up right perfectly with our
• 1:05:47
  show and we could do live reactions that night. I just love it.
• 1:05:51
  You all know my stories and season ticket holder just I want to know where
• 1:05:55
  I'm going when I'm going home. The home opener, we all love the
• 1:05:58
  home opener, and let's just like it's literally Bill's holiday. Well, when
• 1:06:00
  is our Bill's Holiday gonna be? It's gonna be week one or is it
• 1:06:03
  gonna be week two? We rarely, I don't even remember the last time
• 1:06:06
  we started with two away games, so we know the opponents. Next week.
• 1:06:11
  Most likely we're gonna find out the locations in time all the other good
• 1:06:15
  stuff, so it'll be really interesting. DT you know, I can't wait
• 1:06:20
  for it, man. I can't wait for next week. I can't wait.
• 1:06:23
  It's so fun. I mean especially for for you traveling across the country
• 1:06:30
  and you know us picking the away game or whatever the case is gonna be.
• 1:06:33
  It's it's pumped up. And I mean a year ago I was I
• 1:06:36
  think it was in Myrtle Beach doing live for Myrtle Beach. Yes, yes,
• 1:06:41
  yes, yes, you know picking losses and yeah, boy everywhere are
• 1:06:46
  we wrong? But it's uh we used to. I'll land on this the
• 1:06:53
  days of it. I think I speak for a lot of people here,
• 1:06:56
  you know, the past, in the drought, it's always bitching. We
• 1:07:00
  only play at one o'clock on Sundays only. I would die for a couple
• 1:07:04
  now and man, the past couple of years, by the time, by
• 1:07:10
  help, by by sleep pattern, by everything. Just let's play a few
• 1:07:15
  more o'clock. Oh my god, she said, Josh Allen's bad for his
• 1:07:18
  health. These night games. They take a lot on of you. It's
• 1:07:23
  an all day event, especially with the way that we tell gay. So
• 1:07:26
  I could not be uh in more in agreement with you on that one,
• 1:07:28
  because I would love just a nice calm open to the season. Week one
• 1:07:31
  or two one o'clock. But boy, man, Josh Allen is such a
• 1:07:34
  fucking stud that it's hard to keep those guys off primetime. So hopefully they'll
• 1:07:39
  stick to the rules. There's always supposed to be five. Last year we
• 1:07:42
  got seven, lex than week eighteen, so we can't wait to get to
• 1:07:45
  dive into all of that next week. I'll take that Turkey Day noon though,
• 1:07:51
  we go back up to Turkey Day. Yeah, yeah, you know
• 1:07:56
  I'm down for that. You already know I'm down. So listen, Nicol
• 1:07:58
  City crew, we appreciate were a thousand viewers across all platforms tonight. Again,
• 1:08:02
  we just salute to the Nickel City crew. Man. We appreciate you,
• 1:08:05
  guys. We appreciate the love. Thanks to my guest tonight, Jake
• 1:08:09
  and Matt. Check them out on Twitter. They gave you their handles.
• 1:08:12
  Get into some arguments with them on my behalf. I give you permission because
• 1:08:15
  they're great follows and they've they've got great takes, man, they've got great
• 1:08:18
  bills takes as well to Mafia members. Man, listen, hit him with
• 1:08:23
  the gold bills DT you, Matt. That's how we close the show,
• 1:08:26
  Jake, That's how we closed the show. Hit them with they go bills.
• 1:08:28
  We appreciate the viewers tonight man hit him with the go bills. Go
• 1:08:30
  bell O bill, go bills. All right, man, I love it.
• 1:08:35
  Thanks, thanks,