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The new KIA Tasman and its crazy design, plus Gordie's new whip · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: The Driver's Show with Paul Marriage and Gaudy Waters.
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  Speaker 2: What are you driving.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a twenty fourteen BMW X one which I own,
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  Speaker 1: which I bought off my brother and caught a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on fire. I did it a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of fire.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was just like, when I got out of
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  Speaker 1: the car, I was like, fuck, it's really smoky in
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  Speaker 1: the Southern Highlands today. It's so weird. They must be
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  Speaker 1: going up. And then I got out of the car
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  Speaker 1: and then I was like the air underneath the cart
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  Speaker 1: was like wavy, yeah, and I'm like that that's a
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  Speaker 1: bit of fire. I'm like, yeah, there is something really
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  Speaker 1: hot in this car. And so I, uh, that's been
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  Speaker 1: in the shop and I don't care to think about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's still there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a very expensive fix.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: BMW's. I fucking love them, oh swearing.
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  Speaker 2: This is a Christian podcast. I would prefer if you
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  Speaker 2: didn't in the name of my Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's noted. So I freaking love bnw's. But when
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  Speaker 1: they go off a cliff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they're just off man.
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  Speaker 1: Good service though, yeah, not that good. Not twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: In my experience, our great service. I had a mini though,
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  Speaker 2: I had a Mini Cooper.
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  Speaker 1: S yeah baby car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah okay, and they yeah, they were were always really nice. Hey.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the weird thing is it might seem
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  Speaker 2: that paul is absent. I'm so sorry. It's been quite
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  Speaker 2: a while between recordings. Basically, paul is no longer killed him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well you have so Basically what you're hearing now is
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Pavlo has transitioned, which is nice.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, congratulations, Thank you so much for being such
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  Speaker 1: a supportive workplace for this. It was a big decision,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm definitely a better person.
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  Speaker 2: For they did. They love it off properly, Like, is
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  Speaker 2: that something you can bring in on the trail?
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're not allowed to ask that question.
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  Speaker 1: Why not because the rules say cart but yes, it's gone,
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  Speaker 1: it's gone. Is that like it's gone.
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  Speaker 2: We can't call midgets midgets like we call it like
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  Speaker 2: dwarfs midgets or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I can't be canceled on this podcast. It's too early
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  Speaker 1: for me to be canceled on this podcast as Paulina.
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  Speaker 1: Paul is dead, but Paulina has a clean slate.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, till Donna finds out. So, yes, Steph Coombs is
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  Speaker 2: here journalist speaking of transitioning. I guess we could say
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  Speaker 2: you're making the transition into there's a lot of car
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  Speaker 2: journalism going on in your life.
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  Speaker 1: There is, you know, because like truly at the core
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  Speaker 1: of myself as a person and is a media professional.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually a grifter, okay, a through and through grifter,
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  Speaker 1: And so I am. I'm grifting out of podcasting and
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  Speaker 1: other stuff, and I'm grifting towards car media, which is
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  Speaker 1: my preferred area at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what grifting means. It sounds like a
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  Speaker 2: subject on you, pawn.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if you're grifting, you know, you're sort of
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  Speaker 1: you're like a traveling salesman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, like, oh yeah, like a riverboat dandy.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I've always thought of you as a riverboat dandy.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I see myself.
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  Speaker 2: Because general stuff comes with her letters.
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  Speaker 1: What can I do, precisely give me a car? Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So at the moment, I just I just like cars.
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out that you can get paid to
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  Speaker 1: do this, Yeah, sure to work that bit out, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well some of us.
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  Speaker 2: Can some of you can. You not me, And you
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  Speaker 2: can tell by the way. You can actually tell that
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  Speaker 2: STEP's the pro at this because she's the one with
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  Speaker 2: the laptop and I'm just scribbling shit on paper.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm googling what is car?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I look like I look like a nineteen eighties
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  Speaker 2: journalist who's just like finishing the story on the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of his car, like, yeah, submit, submit, I say, I
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  Speaker 2: just I'm basically Trevor Long. I'll just yell my review
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  Speaker 2: out on the top of the town hall steps. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know who Trevor Long is? I do actually surprised
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  Speaker 2: many people do. No.
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  Speaker 1: Back in my talk back radio days. Another thing that
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  Speaker 1: I used to do. He was our tech reporter, I
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  Speaker 1: think when I was working at two GB. Wow, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I've been everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And I love the whole time. Trevor's still just been
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  Speaker 2: a tech reporter. Have you ever known as that Trevor
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  Speaker 2: Long just looks like a court drawing of a homeless person.
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  Speaker 1: No, I haven't noticed that.
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  Speaker 2: No, Well take another look.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to am I starting a fight with
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  Speaker 1: Trevor now? Well, if you got to, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is a long standing fight you have with Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: I've got no problems with trev You just called him a.
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  Speaker 1: Court reporter sketch of a homeless person. Yeah, that feels
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  Speaker 1: like you've got a fight.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, it's not a fight unless
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  Speaker 2: it's accurate and facts were good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. Hey, I wanted to talk to you about
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  Speaker 2: the kid Tasman because the launch has happened. You got
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  Speaker 2: to go. I talk driving impressions. I don't really know
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  Speaker 2: too much about this car. They have released prices now right,
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  Speaker 2: they have indeed, so we know prices, we know it's
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  Speaker 2: out there. We know there could be other variants coming.
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  Speaker 2: We know it was designed by a guy called fuck it.
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  Speaker 2: That'll do, Damon, just submit it. We know that.
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  Speaker 1: Do we want to do? We want to talk pricing
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  Speaker 1: because I have actually got it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you've done with.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not up. It's all in my head. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so good at this stuff. So you've got about ten
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  Speaker 1: variants coming, right, So at the top of the line,
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  Speaker 1: you've got the x Pro and that's that is a
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  Speaker 1: like a really solid off roading car.
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  Speaker 2: And that does look good. I will say that one.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely looks better than I think a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: S line, which which has a much bigger nose on it.
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  Speaker 1: So the X Pro that's going to be about seventy
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars before on road costs and then right
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  Speaker 1: at the other end. But but for that as well,
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  Speaker 1: like you get all the you know, the transmission lock,
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  Speaker 1: you've got the low gear range, you've got cameras that
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  Speaker 1: look at the floor when you're driving. I found that
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  Speaker 1: to be not at all useful, but really not. Even
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  Speaker 1: SI couldn't see it, couldn't see it. It was. It
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  Speaker 1: was too mushy to sort of make much of an
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  Speaker 1: impression anythink. But you know, I'm also not great at offerating.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else who's better than me might get more use
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  Speaker 1: out of it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's the sports bars and stuff like that on it.
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  Speaker 2: Because I saw it with the sports bar, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that better be. You've got a factory like look.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there are accessories. You've asked me a
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  Speaker 1: specific question which I have not prepared for. I could lie,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the answers.
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  Speaker 2: To make this ship.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like I sat in like three press conferences
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  Speaker 1: and was specifically told that information but at that point,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was probably playing snake on my phone
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know when they first launched this in tazzy
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  Speaker 2: funny enough.
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  Speaker 1: Tasmanism what they did there.
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  Speaker 2: The PR team are fucking geniuses. So someone it was
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  Speaker 2: literally like the Homo Simpson car. One of the press Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the rest journalists put the hand up.
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  Speaker 2: Possibly could have been Dave McCowan. I'm not sure, but
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  Speaker 2: they said.
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  Speaker 1: My editor, yes, great guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The first question was is it too late to
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  Speaker 2: change the design? And the designer was there and he's like, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That is superb. That's that is that is a bold
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  Speaker 1: first question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, the design is controversial. You can't go online
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  Speaker 1: without people talking about it. I reckon the S and
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  Speaker 1: the SX variant are uglier than the X line X
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  Speaker 1: line Pro.
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  Speaker 2: I think the X line pro is definitely to pick
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  Speaker 2: from what I've.
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  Speaker 1: Heard, and you know, who am I to spread gossip
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  Speaker 1: on this fine established journalistic podcast that we're on. From
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  Speaker 1: from what I was told, do you say that? Just
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  Speaker 1: do you say that?
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  Speaker 2: Paul? I do, actually, and he does. And let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you that the kind of guy who would that
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  Speaker 2: press fruit bowl that he does on the glass of
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  Speaker 2: that studio door.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just say, hey, I touched that with my hands before.
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  Speaker 2: Was out of season. Let me just say that there
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  Speaker 2: is a fruit fruit.
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  Speaker 1: Again. I really hope that you guys wipe that down
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  Speaker 1: nice and well. Yes, no. So the rumor, the interesting
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  Speaker 1: rumor that I was told from a couple of people,
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  Speaker 1: is that there were a few designs right, and there
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  Speaker 1: was a design that was sort of unanimously preferred, and
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  Speaker 1: they were like, it's that one. And then there was
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  Speaker 1: a captain's call further up in the head office and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, nut, we're going for this ugly one because
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  Speaker 1: it's and they wanted something that was really bold. And
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  Speaker 1: you can't deny that it is a bold design. It
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  Speaker 1: is something that stands out, and they have to do
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  Speaker 1: something that stands out because they are late to the
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  Speaker 1: game and they're in a very crowded market and what
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  Speaker 1: they're offering, I think is not a bad off, but
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  Speaker 1: only marginally better I think than what's already out there.
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  Speaker 1: And people can debate that that it it hasn't gone
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  Speaker 1: far enough and whatnot. They said at the launch, because
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  Speaker 1: I did ask the question, I'm like, I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: is all anyone's talking about is the way this looks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're concerned about that coming out to the launch,
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  Speaker 1: and they said, look, we think that the angst there
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  Speaker 1: was not mine. The angst about the looks of this
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  Speaker 1: will go down when people see it on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I do too.
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  Speaker 1: I do too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's going to happen is after time.
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  Speaker 2: This is like a design that is, no doubt polarizing,
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  Speaker 2: polarizing both, but I think it'll soften by the time
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  Speaker 2: people kind of get used to it and see it
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  Speaker 2: on the roads. Another thing that Key's got to realize is, well,
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  Speaker 2: people have got to realize Key has really transition their
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  Speaker 2: design language a lot. Like you look at the everything
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  Speaker 2: from the Evning nine and downwards the Key at K
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  Speaker 2: four or that. Now they've come up with this you
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  Speaker 2: and it really kind of has to set in that
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  Speaker 2: design language that they're coming out with.
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  Speaker 1: It does, and it's also tricky because they have to
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  Speaker 1: very quickly establish themselves as blokey. And this is a
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  Speaker 1: hard thing because I think of care and I think
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  Speaker 1: of sensible, nice lady cars for driving, you know around,
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  Speaker 1: And you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I had had a care Stinger that's not Is
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  Speaker 2: that a senseable lady car? I'd like to think it is.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to.
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  Speaker 1: Think which was a great car, great engine. A couple
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  Speaker 1: of people said like, couldn't you put the Stinger engine
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  Speaker 1: in the Tasman because it's you know, but but they haven't,
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  Speaker 1: didn't they.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, with that, I think they used
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  Speaker 2: the same one they're putting in the yan Day Palisade.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I've thrown thrown that one
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. How I have not prepared for
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  Speaker 1: any of these things, like, you know, trying to look
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  Speaker 1: like I know what I'm talking about. Look, it is
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  Speaker 1: a two point two liter four cylinder engine, which is
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like it was.
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  Speaker 2: And did they talk about the toying on that they did?
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  Speaker 1: But but you know what, towing is complicated, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like it's three point five when when
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  Speaker 1: we towed something around it, it felt we were towing
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  Speaker 1: around a two ton caravan. It felt fine. For all
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: of these utes, they do over promise and you have
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit careful about what your rear
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  Speaker 1: axle can actually take. So if you're doing any sort
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  Speaker 1: of serious towing. Think, is there any dual cab you
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  Speaker 1: that you really would trust?
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  Speaker 2: There's only there's only one when it comes to towing
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  Speaker 2: that I fully fully trust, and that is the BYD Shark,
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  Speaker 2: Because yeah, I mean that is just a piece of
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  Speaker 2: engineer and genius in the towing department, in the off
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  Speaker 2: road department. I'm being cynical, but yeah, look, so hey,
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  Speaker 2: one thing I did love about the Key Tasmin, especially
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  Speaker 2: in the Expro, the interior on this is really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Like it is they've taken the bloky ute and they've
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  Speaker 2: made it look really posh, like it's really well set out.
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  Speaker 1: It's the interior and a lot of people were saying
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  Speaker 1: this is like you know, you're you're looking that they've
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  Speaker 1: just signed interior out in a lot of ways. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got a really nice entertainment system in the x Pro.
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  Speaker 1: You've got this sort of faux leather not actual leather.
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  Speaker 1: But the seats are really comfortable, electric seats, heated seats,
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  Speaker 1: which which is the one thing, the one thing which
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  Speaker 1: is a non negotiable for me, heated seats.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot go back. I refuse to go I
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  Speaker 2: love them. Yeah, Okay, some people don't like them. My
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: mistress goes, don't check the heated seats on It makes
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: me want to poo. I'm like, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: everything makes you poop. We could have any you could
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  Speaker 2: walk past.
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  Speaker 1: Have you got it at like the cooling seats, maybe
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: it would do the opposite can make yeah. Yeah, But
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  Speaker 1: the heated seats in the in the front and in
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  Speaker 1: the back in the Expro, which I thought was a
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  Speaker 1: nice little and the back seats actually had a reasonable
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: recline on them too, so because usually the back row
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: is just miserable in these dual cabs, but the back
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: row was quite roomy. The car is very large as well.
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  Speaker 2: How does it stuck up to, say, like the BYD
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  Speaker 2: Shark for instance, I'll go back to that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's actually not a bad car. But it's
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  Speaker 2: a bloody big bugger. Does it feel big?
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  Speaker 1: It feels big, and it is marginally larger than a
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: lot of these big uts that are on the roads.
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  Speaker 1: I think you need that, right, like, if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have like a comfortable back row and if you're
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: going to be sort of try and separate yourself on
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  Speaker 1: the market, like and they needed it to be big,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: and they needed it to be bloken. You just need
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: to look at the ads right to see how they're
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: trying to position themselves in the market.
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  Speaker 2: All the sports people cameo is like it's a happy
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Gilmore Too movie.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you a story about the launch? Go
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: on the second night there was Tasman Town and we
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: had no idea what Tasmin Town was.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: And so you need a map Tasi to get around
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Tasman down.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not answering that. So Tasman Town. As it turned out,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: they've taken over the town of Sephala, right, and where
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: is that near bathist Sophala? Beautiful mining town, very small
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  Speaker 1: town only has like one hundred and fifty people population.
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  Speaker 2: I lived in Orange for a couple of months.
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  Speaker 1: I should know it. It's like around the corner from Oreckon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't give a ship, but we were dropped off there
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  Speaker 1: and the night were you abducted, it felt a little
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: bit like a launch.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: You were at some wind.
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  Speaker 1: Carrying my trauma and you just have to receive the trauma.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you're in a cult.
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  Speaker 1: It felt it was an interesting night because they brought
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: in all these sports stars who were there, Like Volkanovsky
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  Speaker 1: was there, Alex Volkanowski, the UFC guy, Boonie was there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they got all these dudes go on regional.
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  Speaker 1: There were nine of them, and I didn't know half
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  Speaker 1: of the unless it's a racing driver, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: any of these people. But they brought all these guys
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  Speaker 1: in and it was I would describe it as like
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: live improvisation theater. And I would sooner gnaw off my
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: own hand often than deal with that, because I find
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: that very quick, you know, uncomfortable. So you're going in
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  Speaker 1: and and all these guys are assuming the characters that
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: they've been playing in the ads, so like Volkanovsky is
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  Speaker 1: like the chef, and like Boonie is that it's Boonie's
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  Speaker 1: Bakery in there. And so the town mayor who was
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  Speaker 1: in the ads is like, oh, you know, hello you newcomers, like,
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  Speaker 1: come along and I'll introduce you to your neighbors. And
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  Speaker 1: have you ever did you ever go to old Sydney Town?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, imagine that we had something when I was growing up,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: because I grew up in Melbourne. We we've got something
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: there called Sovereign Hill and it's very it's a very
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: similar vibe I reckon exactly that.
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  Speaker 1: So imagine those sort of like historical open air museums
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, only it's it's Tasman Town and a sporting
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  Speaker 1: style lineup that you and I know, Volkanovsky and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of them, and Boonie because like it's Boonie.
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  Speaker 2: It's Booney, it's boonievb bubblehead.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, legend and everyone else. This was a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: very very stressful time for me because like I'm talking
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to people like do I know you from a carllege
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: or are you some Australian sporting legend. I should absolutely know. Anyway,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just in this heightened state of anxiety and then you.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Put a lot of pressure on yourself.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: You are right, no, I'm not giving you a check down.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It gets worse, it gets worse. So where finally there's
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: a sit down dinner part and I'm like, oh, thank
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you know now now it's over. Like I'm sitting down
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: and so this guy sits next to me and he's like,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I'm Nathan, who are you? And I'm like, holy hell,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: that's pretty aggressive starting thing. I thought he was just
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: sort of like a brash card journo. So I'm like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I'm Stephanie. Who are you? And then he said, oh,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I'm Nathan. Heind marsh, I'm one of the footballers. Also,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I said how are you?
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: It didn't I thought he said who are you? And
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: he said how are you? So I just beat a
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: massive bitch to him and I'm like, oh, mate, I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: so sorry. I don't know anyone here.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I thought you said, let's recreate that, right. Yeah, we're
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: sitting at We're sitting at dinner.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: It's nice and.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: You're just going about your business here, hey going, I'm Nathan,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: how are you?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: And I say, I'm Stephanie.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Who are you? Oh? And he was like, I'm fucking
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Nathan from the bloody shitty football club.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He wasn't like that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: He was sorry bloody got involved in that case. A
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: couple of years back. We can't talk. But on whatever
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: job on Celebrity Apprentice.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: He was so nice. He was such a lovely bloke, Nathan,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and he was he was very good human about the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: holding in that situation. I was the bad guy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You single or what.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He talked about his wife and his kids. It was wholesome,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: but it was a nice story. In that story, I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the bad guy. I'm the bad guy.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: He's the good guy.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: All right. So anyway, so you got on.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got through. But but you could sense how
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: much time and money had been sort of spent on.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: This and he's basically he's a stripper. He's been paid
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to talk to you and were you don't know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd like that, but.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: They do, like a lot of things on their podcast.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm doing okay. It's fine. You don't need
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: to stress. You're in safe hands. We can say what
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: we like.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I just I don't necessarily endorse the messages that are
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: coming out of this podcast. But yeah, it was It
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was a really seriously like expensive and and ritzy and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: quite a nice event. But it gave you a sense
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of just how much they need this to work, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they need it to work, and they need to align
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: themselves with like blokes and trade's and sporting stars, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they've got to build credibility really quick. And I think
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: their car is good. It drove well. The off roading
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was really good. It's really smart. When you get off
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the tarmac, it does a lot of the thinking for you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I think four years ago, this car would have been
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a smash hit.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I think like seventy five thousand dollars at the moment
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: for a Kia and you're dealing with the trade's I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: think that's fine. I think, like, I mean, it's kind
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: of it's somewhat priced competitively. It's going up against a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: lot of established blokey brands that are out there, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a shaky one. We're gonna wait
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and see on this.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they want to they want to be number four,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: So they want to.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Be number four.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the target. Well, but like to be fair,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like they're up against the Highlucks, the Ranger, Azuzu D Max. Yes,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: so like four is good. But when you look at
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the BYD Shark, Yeah, I actually that's where their competition is.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I think, And I reckon, I reckon. It's hard to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: come in with a diesel ute when there's a lot
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of diesel uts doing a good job that are established
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and you know what their resale value is, Whereas like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: BYD comes in with a plug in hybrid and you're like,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: well that's that's a compelling different offer.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this kid Tasman can do a lot of
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: things that the BYD can't do.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't driven the BYD.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Look I like them, like
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: we joke about them a bit on the podcast. I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a bad fanboy, Like I freaking think the Seal Performance
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is an excellent EV. They make great cars in fact,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: like if I was to pick an EV, it would
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: be at the top of the top of the pile somewhere.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But I think where they went wrong with the Shark
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: is they advertised it as a fun off road car
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: as well, and you can see that in their advertising.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I wouldn't confidently take this. I'd probably,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it'd be fine on the sand
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: on the beach possibly, But that's where I kind of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: draw the line. And look, Paul will tell you he
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: had a lot of problems going up test hills and
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: stuff like that with that car. So yeah, it's a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: little bit shaky with the off road hill climbing and
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But I think as a daily you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you want to check stuff in the back of a car,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you need to cut the kids around. I think it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: actually great. The tech, it's good, it feels bougie, it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: really competitively priced, like compared to the top of the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: line Kia Tasmin say the x Pro, this is like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: ten grand cheaper. Yeah on road, oh god, if that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: could even be fifteen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I will say that the Tasman was really good offer it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not an experienced off road driver, and so I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: thought that this car was going to have to do
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of thinking for me if we were going
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to not roll it. And sure enough it really did.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It's only got a rear diff lock, which is a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: slightly limiting factor, but the traction control it is so
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: smart that it does manage just to really chew through
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: some fairly rugged roads.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You're a rugged person, I am.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Can't you tell?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I can tell so tough.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm so tough.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's so tough. You know what you need?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: What do I need?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: A Genesis? I had a Genesis. I went on a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: cute little road driven by Genesis GV eighty coop, as
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Stephan likes to call it now, a Genesis. I took
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: it down from Sydney to Melbourne and then up into
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the Victorian Highlands. We took its skiing stop LUs Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: very lucks, I tell you what. This was one of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the best SUVs I've ever driven. Really, Oh my god,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: it's so good. It's so good twin Turbov six. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it's kind of got that. I guess the Stinger engine
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: in it. It's got a really strong engine. It's just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: got all the lucks. It looks good. Mine was like this,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Matt Green and yeah, the coup at the back is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: definitely the best looking Genesis out there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Think about the Genesis is that like I always look
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: at that car and I'm like, what is that car?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: They're a bit of like a mishmash of other cars.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I look at them and I'm like, oh, you are
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: an amalgamation of every car on the road. I love
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a bit of a Yeah. I mean, look there, they're fine.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: They're fine, They're fine.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're beautiful on the road. But I don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: get if I see a Genesis going by, I'm not like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: holy hell, really there goes a Genesis.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of think of them as like TMU Bentley's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: real tu Bentley's like with the the way that the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: wings kind of flare out on the Genesis badge and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, who are you trying to fall
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like they're kind of pretending to be
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a fancier car than they are. I don't respect that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Really, I don't respect you.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But you know what terrible things about my Genesis, you
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: little bitch. Get out of here.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Put me. I haven't I haven't driven one. Maybe there
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Get out of here, you fucking hussy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Because you look at it. You look at it and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, is that a nice car? And then yes, yes,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, it's a Genesis.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's a great car. What's wrong with it? It's not
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you haven't even driven one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you some homework. You need to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: drive one. Drive the GV eighty Coop sports Back whatever
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: they call it, and then get back to me.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Because I'm happy to eat my words on that one.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It is kitted out and it is fantastic, and it
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: drives just as well as a BMW X six. Yeah. Yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: does it look as good though, Yes it does. It
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: looks fantastic. It looks really good. It's not bullshit. How
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: dare you?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I can't believe we're having our first fight?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: We are? I love it? Hey, I'm going to say
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of names of cars right that I've driven
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and I know you've driven, and then you can stop
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: on one and tell me where we could talk about.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Are you ready? Mazda m X five. Next, I'll get
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: back to that gmc dnali you came.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how long did you have the car for?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: All? Right? This is a pissing contest, or is it?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: You would win?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I've got a strong, steady stream.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I was afraid of what you're going to say. Then
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I've got a strong name.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I like cars, man, it's all suspects.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, what was your question? I was too busy
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: thinking about you.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: How long my schlong? How long did you have the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yukon Force?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I had it for a week? Yeah, yeah, which is
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: pretty standard.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So I was only there for the launch of that car,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have it for a very long time.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed it when we were driving around
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: sort of the back area, sort of camera and whatever,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and like big country roads. It's like driving a couch.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: The thing is with that car. It is so big.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: In fact, I think it's actually the biggest suv in
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Australia on sale right now for a bloody large car
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: feels like a piece of piss to drive.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's so easy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And it's it's such a joy, and it's such a
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: shame that like these American yank tanks, whatever you want
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to call them, they're getting a bad name, like, oh,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: they don't fit on Australian bloody roads. Oh they don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: fit in Australian bloody shopping shirt of car parks. Yes
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: they do. Shut up, shut your fat, bloody Northern lager,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: bloody great Northern drinking fat, prostate cancer hole. I can
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: say that my dad has prostate cancer.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But oh well, now you brought the tone down twice.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: No I haven't, I've brought the tone up, but just
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: just shut up. It's a great, big, fat American car
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and we need to see more.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Of I don't know, man, driving that, I loved it
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: when I was out in the country, but like driving
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that back to Merrickville was white knuckle.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, driving around Sydney. I took that to I
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: took that to the work car park, which is think
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: think like Meriton Sweets style. Usually my Genesis loves it,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: but this Denali I couldn't fit it in and I
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: had to drive it home and I had to get
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: an uber into work. So there is okay, the big
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: fat idiots, So saying doesn't fit in Astrolian car parks.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's yeah, some some astral city city driving.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you've had your way. But like whatever, it's.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Very it's it's the cost of it is a bit inhibitive,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like it's it's it's so expensive.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: What is it like one hundred and seventy yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Sixteen hundred, sixty hundred and seventy, like it is an
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: outrageously expected car. And but if you are a rouse
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: hill bogan, don't say that. I'm sorry that is that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: is a that is a Hills District aspirational car.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's a cashed up man car.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You've got five you've got five acres and you've got two.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It could be on the gold kids that hate you. Yeah,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and then you've got no, it's a it's a Hills
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: District broken car.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: There is nothing Bogan about that car.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: There is nothing UKONDINALI.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, it looks slightly it is like.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It's obnoxiously large, it's ridiculous on the roads. It is
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, overpowered and heavy, it's overpowered. Well it's it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it's powered enough size. Look, it was it was fun
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to drive. I found the breaking a bit tricky on
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that car. Actually, did you find that? Like when I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: when I hit the brakes, I felt like it sort
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of was a bit touchier than I was expecting.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: No, not really, I found it just maybe I'm just
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a shit driver. Yeah, I just found it absolute joy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Like I took that. I did city and like I
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: took it on a few road trips and stuff. And look,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: if you have a big block of land, if you've
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: got an acreage and you don't need to drive into
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the city, this is a great car, just because the
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: city comes with issues. But yeah, I don't I don't
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: think there is anything Boganish. If you're gonna say Bogan,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of think, like fucking you could throw anything.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You could put a bloody commodore or something like that's Bogan.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this this is this is new
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: money Bogan car. I will die on that. I grew
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: up at the supercars, Like I'm a secret bogn Hills history.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not fighting any of this. It's not a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bad thing, but that is I reckon. That's who their
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: market is.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: So what if if a cash that person like with
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of soave, if they've got
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a big bunch of cash, what Suvre they driving Genesis?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They're not driving in Genesis. Yeah, driving in Genesis.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Because it looks it looks very what do you call it?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Cadillac kind of looks like I guess like they would
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: be driving an escalade.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I have nothing against it. I reckon the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: TV screens at the back. Nice car was very nice
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to drive, I agree, but like as soon as you're
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: in sort of narrow streets, it's like it's brown pants stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Tell you what I reckon? You were like, yeah, the Volvo.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: X ninety indeed, indeed, yes, So I live in Bondai
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: now and only too at me? How long to mention that?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And I see a lot of the X nineties. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: think the Bondai. Though Bondo is the Porsche capital of Australia.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I think that the Porsche to resident ratio there would
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: be ridiculous.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But I see a lot of it's pronounced but that's so.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah only if you're only if you're a winker. So
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of them. I don't think of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Volvo as particularly luxury brand.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: To be honest, really, I don't.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I think of them as a nice sort of mid
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: range vehicle. But Volvo see themselves as a BMW right
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: up there. And I was like, yeah, right, I know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: But from the second I picked up that car from
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the Volvo headquarters. And usually when you're picking up a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: press car, I'm sure you've experienced this. You're picking up
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: from this warehouse. They throw the keys at you, and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: there's just cars everywhere, and you are desperate not to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: scrape up the car and just break it. Press cars
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get damaged because it's just chaoe. So you have to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: drive it out and then you're in the middle of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a very crowded suburb and so you're trying to work
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: out how to drive the car. It's a pretty unpleasant time,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I find, But I haven't smashed anything up yet. When
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I was picking up the Volvo, you know, someone from
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the Volvo head's office who was wearing a suit and
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was so sociable and and came down and it's like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you know, gave me the tour of the car, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you know, this is how you do this. And my
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: favorite thing about the car is this, and like I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: think that you'll enjoy the speaker system. I'm like, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: think I will enjoy the speakers.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You don't get that. You don't get that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You don't you don't like if you were picking up
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: pretty much any other car, it's like the keys get
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: pegged at you and you were on your own.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's the roads that way, dighead. Yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Have you have you ever smashed a Presca?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yes? Have you? Pavely doesn't know about this yet. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: haven't told Paul.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, so and I don't know he's not here.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But you know what, I did pay for the damage,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: so well yeah, so it was the gw M Canon Alpha,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: big beautiful shiny ute.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And that is a big car.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: It's a big but yeah, it's good. I actually enjoyed
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: it as a diesel. The problem is I was coming
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: out of a car park where and then it's it's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a Dickey car park where the gate of the car
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: park goes inwards and you have to stop at a ramp,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: got to swipe your security card and then the gate
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: opens inwards. And so by the time you've got clearance one,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you've got to kind of get up this ramp, so
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you've got and plus dealing with the diesel. I looked
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: at it and I literally had less than an inch
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: on each space, right on each side. It was I
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: knew it was going to be narrow. But I've done
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it heaps of times. I've you know, I've been parking
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: there for over twelve months. It's generally fine. But the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: problem is when I sort of revved it to get
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: up this this ramp, the whole thing just fucking came
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, like really like push forward and yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: just I really scraped this shit out of the side.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like it was that gate that got it. I'm like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: what the fuck? No, yeah, panels, uh, the front the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: front quarter panel. Yeah, it was bad. It was real bad.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I mean I paid for the damage, and it doesn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: change my opinion on the car. I think the car
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: was actually really good, and I think Great Waller makes
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: some really good cars. But yes, I scraped the shit
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: out of this. It's very, very embarrassing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Oh I haven't you know, touched would But like if
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you're driving a lot of cars, it's a matter of time.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Do you want to see the photo?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh, let me have a look at it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I am. I can see the pain in your face.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I thought it was a bit of paint. Nah, No,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that's body wine.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I properly fucked it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: No, that's that hurts a bit.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you see the amount of room I had? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, No,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: it was crazy. It is.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But this is why I don't take out anything that's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a luxury car because the cost of repairs if you
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: mess it up, would financially ruined me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't look that I owned it. It was fine.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: They were good about it. We did what we had
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But ah, yeah, this is the thing, Like it is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hard when you were driving a car that is not
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: your car, and especially if you're changing them, often driving
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: their ex ninety. I was really anxious about that car
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: because that was a very large car and it felt
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: big on the roads, big suv, a lot of go,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of guts. But I like taking that into
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a car park. If I've got a press car, often
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just don't go into car bucks because it's like, I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: can't be certain, not just me, that someone isn't going
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to push a trolley into it. And it was a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: nice enough car that I didn't want to bug it up.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Like it was really nice inside, really nice outside. Like
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I've got to reall, I've got to return this in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: one page.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's such a it's such a brilliant car. We've got
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: an XC forty. I love it. It's such a great, little, cheap,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: run around car. And it's funny because I look to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: spec we've got very basic. I think it's cloth seats
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, which I was fine with. I
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: think the cloth seats in that one looks looks pretty good.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would consider these. I would consider now,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Like we were talking about this off air. When I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: was a kid, of Volvo was the big fat station wagon. Yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: station Wagon, that's that family car. And it was this
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: safe car. But it was Swedish and it was it
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't I wouldn't have called it shit, you know what
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I mean. I wouldn't have called it like Hyundai in
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the early days.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, it was never a bad car.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I just never found out a particularly sexy car.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It's like it didn't have any of the sort of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the sexiness. And I still don't necessarily think of it
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: as a sexy car, but I can say that was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a luxury car, and as someone who has worked an
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: audio and who really cares about sound, they hand it
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: over and they're like, I reckon, this will have the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: best sound system that you ever have. And it did
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: an electric car that's a bit quiet, plus all the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: speakers that they had. I was listening to my own
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: music that's on my phone, hearing stuff that I hadn't
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: heard own music.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine tell me about your music.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: If I did have a rap album, which I cannot
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: stress enough I do not have, you couldn't water board
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that information out of me.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I wonder what your rap album would be called. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: reckon it would be called to be Mild.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It'd be like milk toast the album fat.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Genus, fat Geese. That's just the title of the album,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: that's not.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll work
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: on the rap, right. But yeah, I was listening to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: it and like, I'm a sound person. I like, you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: good headphones or whatever, but I'm like, I'm hearing stuff
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: from this car sound speaker, which I think it has
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: really good high ends and really good and really nicely
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: sort of balanced sound system. So I rate that. I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: rate that if you can get your hands on one
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of those, give them a go.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Think I was like, this is the standard. It is
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: very big, but it did set the standard. I think
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: for suv electric cars.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: They are big, aren't they. But they've got yeah, everything
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: in them needs to be there. They're so good with
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the storage, they're so good. I think nowadays I would
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: consider Volvo like just a sexy, stylish luxury brand and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a luxury car. And I think they're doing far out
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that ex thirty and that little run around that they've done.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: That's a great little car. A bit small, but yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I mean they look great on the roads. Paul not
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: so much of a fan, but I've got a lot
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: of love for the for the Volvos. Yeah, I reckon
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: they're great.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You're in an electric car at the moment.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we should talk about the five s ev Now.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't driven. I've never driven an MG. I was
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to. Actually, on the topic of Snaffoo's I was
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to drive Snaffoo Little issues, little issues.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I was spoken up words today.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not making up words. I've just got a good vocabulary.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm trying to try to bring grifter and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: snaffo sounds like saying.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm playing on kiss. He's the latest out of Shaboozy
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and chef.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to bring up the tone.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to help lives.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: That's bloody, that's carrying.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, we I were supposed to have
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: an MG and then I think something happened to the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: MG that the I supposed to be driving. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that was it, and so I never I've never actually
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: driven an MG, but they feel like they're releasing a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: new car every week. Those guys.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Here's what I say about the MG. I remember when
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: they came out with the mg hs and all that
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and I'm talking like seven eight years ago,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: they were releasing cheap SUVs and they were selling really well.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And for me at that time, I was a bit like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: ho hum, whatever. They've got their thing going on and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: they kind of serve a purpose. So now what they've
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: done is they're bringing out these cars that are well
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: priced and their quality and I'm not like, this isn't
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: pissing in anyone's pocket. I'm just literally stating, you can
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: check for yourself. They're brought out a fleet where one
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: all the news design language has changed, and I feel
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: like they're settling on these cars that are just doing
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: really well in their space. So you look at say
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: whether it be the HS or the ZS Hybrid Plus,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I had that for a while. That was a great car.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: The MG Sedan I'm not a huge fan of, but
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: everything else what they're putting out is just really great
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: stuff for their space, well priced, well designed, And what
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's allowing them to do is put out
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: these cars that are kind of like, oh, all right,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that's a bit wow. Cool, you're actually doing that. So
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: that was like the MG Cyberster, for instance, Like that
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: ev it's a two door convertible sports car. The dealership
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: guy called it a supercar. He's like one hundred and
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: ten thousand. It's not a bad price for a supercar.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Shut up, sir, no, I love that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: That's cute. This isn't as when they've got when they
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: drink the kool aid. Yeah, it's nice when they drink
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the co but.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It is that. Having said that, the cyber Stories, I
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: reckon it's a great car. It's so fun and it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: it's fast, and I actually think it's worth the dollars.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to say is everything else that
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: they're put in in their space is is quality and
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: it's worth the price. So the MG five s EV
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: depending on spec, aroundabout between forty and forty seven thousand
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: drive away, as well two battery types and range, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: forty nine killer what hour battery and the I think
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: it's a sixty two killer what hour battery somewhere along there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get anywhere between sort of three
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five and four hundred and thirty five
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: kilometers WLTP. Just for transparency, I had the tops back,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: which I think is like the essence. I mean, you're gettingses,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: not as good as a Genesis has everything going on
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to like the faux lever seeds, the heated steering wheel,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: which I know.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: You love fucking love heated steering wheel. Yes, oh god,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I wish my car had a heated steering whe I've
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: got the heated seats.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: That's oh yeah, oh yeah, it's last.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I aspire to.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That panoramic sunnary for electric tailgate, all the all the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: who ha, they're taking this, by the way, the three
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: sixty camera, the wireless phone charging, wireless Apple car play
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: as well. Here's what I'll say, Like forty seven thousand dollars,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you're getting all that in an EV that's driving really well,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and it feels lucks. It feels way more expensive than
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: it is. It drives really well as a get around towner,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: picking up kids, doing your daily stuff. It is just mint.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: It is bang on for what it's supposed to do.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: It's serving its purpose so well. The tech in this,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I will say, there's two things that pissed me off
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: about tech. Now, there's all the bings and bongs that
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: we all hate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: The first thing you get when you get into a
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: new car, what do you do?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You turn it off? You turn it off.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, can we just.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Look it's got all the tech and the cool thing
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I do love about this is literally with one swipe,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: you can go swipe, save it to your favorites button.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You got the favorites button, so then anytime you're in,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: all you're doing is just pushing the favorites button which
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: is on the steering wheel, and it's all gone. It's
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: not all gone, like you pick and choose what you want,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: but the annoying stuff is gone.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I hate lane assist in ninety percent of
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the cars. Like the amount of times lane assist has
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: tried to drive me into oncoming traffic. It's not a lot,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: but it's enough.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: The little jolts, yeah, like stop it, stop it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when it's when you're driving next to a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you know, a really big truck for example, and you're
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: in a big car and it's like, oh, I think
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you should be further along. That's like, no, no, I reckon.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be under the wheels of that truck.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I think I've got this one. Like, let me. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: hate I hate fighting cars.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who think that?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You know they're driving better than And I've never had
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it save me because I don't know about you, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I don't drive off the road that often.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Oh I do. I drive into car parks all the time.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: You've probably noticed. Yeah. No, this thing is packed full
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: of the safety tech, which is customizable. The one big
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: plus for this car, and I think a lot of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: them aren't doing, is a lot of tech these days
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: is getting in built in the screen, which is the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: most annoying af thing ever. Right, we all agree, we
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to be fumbling around. What they've done is
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the screen. It's kind of hard
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: wired in, so you've got everything you need at that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: one touch. Things like heated seats, heated steering wheel. The
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: climate control is physical and it's bloody easy. The volume
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: there is actually physical, that's all there. Everything's kind of
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that you definitely need is physical, and everything that you
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: want to have that you don't want to have to
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: fumble in the tech is all hard wired in. It's
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: probably one of the best infotainment setups I reckon I've
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: ever used. But EV forty seven grand, top of the range.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: So far, so good. I think if I was to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: give it a bit of a stab, possibly driving ranges
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: getting to me so one hundred percent is getting me
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: around about three hundred and ninety k's, which it's published
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: as about four point thirty, which is a bit concerning.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to check that out. I suspect
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: it could be a fault. I'm not sure, but yeah,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: MG five s EV so far big tics.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, getting in one.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: You need to get anyone.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, when you are like relatively new
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to the game, as I am, a lot of this
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is just getting as into as many cars as possible,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: so you have like a sense of what is on
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the road and you can start sort of building a
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: mental library of like, oh well this, this drove well
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: in this way, but you know, compared to this and whatever.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: So it's funny. There is a there is a little
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: game that I've noticed that you can play with most
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: car riders or car journals, which is who do you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: think will.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Be divorced first?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: That's easy though, that's an easy one. But if you
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: if you're you know, pick on my peers. The marriage
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is Like I said, I am new to this game.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I cannot do that. Give me another year and then
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: we'll go.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: We're going to start bitching about it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: But the of the new Chinese cars that have entered
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the market, like who do You reckon? Will be still
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: in the game.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: He dominated time by d We're.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Still in there.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: By d MG is one that comes up a lot
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yep, yes, but they're not specializing in just evs.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: No, no, but just Chinese cars full stop. Chinese cars
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: who have come into the market, because as we all know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: there's been a huge influx. Who will actually be here
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in ten years.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It's tricky because like even Volvo for instance, is a
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Chinese car. They're just like masking as a Swedish car.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah so, but of the of the newer entrany, so
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: like will a Cherry be around you? Reckon? I think
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Cherry is going to be saying.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I think Cherry's doing really well. I think MG is
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: doing great, but they've been in the market for a
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: long time. By D for me, would be probably this
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: safest bet out of all of them. I think if
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you're going to bet on car brands that won't be
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: here in five to ten years, I'd be surprised if
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Leap Motor are still kind of floating about. I had
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: their C ten and that is easily the worst car
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I've ever test. Oh my god, it's just I hated it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I hated it so much. It's so clumsy, it's undercooked.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It's not ready, it's not ready for the market. It's
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: like the user experience is just who was the focus
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: group when they were putting this thing together? Because it's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: so poorly put together. The card, which I know Paul loves,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: but I hated it. The card is like.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I find cards really tricky.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Cards, and your mobile phone. We're past that don't have
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a mobile phone that's going So this card isn't proximity sensing.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: It's literally you've got to tap it on the side mirror.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it is that happy Gilmore tippity
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: tap tap tappy and it's your fucking around with it
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: for so long. What else did I hate about it?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It's got no wireless Apple Car Play, It's got none.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: In fact, it's it's rare.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Actually it's taking. It's hard to find a.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Car that has In fact, it's got no Apple Car
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Play or Android Auto, so it's got none. None of that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: You literally have to use whatever their elite motor apps are.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: The boot was a faff around. Yeah, I just look,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. It's been a lot.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It's kind of refreshing though, because I've had this conversation
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: before with other people. It is rare, I think these
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: days to get into a car, whe're like, that's a
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: bad car. And this is one of the challenging things
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: if you're writing about this industry, is that you get
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: into it and it's like it's another above average car.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Like it's rare that you get something that I think
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: is exemplary and it's even rareer to get something. We're like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: this is a lemon. Like, we don't have lemons in
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the way that we used to have lemons. At least
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we don't when they're brand new. After five six seven years,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that's when they may become lemons. But we don't get
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: them for five six seven years. We get them for
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: two weeks. So it's kind of hard to say these
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: days that was that was trash.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Zekra are good. I think they've
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: based themselves really well. I think they've got good found
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: They've obviously got a few little improvements here and there.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I think that mainly goes into software for me as
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a personal thing. But yeah, I think the established one.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: What about Jacu?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Jacu are good. I haven't had too much experience with them.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I've had a little flutter, and I think they're putting
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: together something really good. They certainly look good. Are they
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: owned by the same people who own land Rover?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I do not have an answer to that off the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: top of my head. Let's ask because we trust that.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Let's try it. Let's give it a go. Hey,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: is the owners of the car Jacu? Do they own
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: land Rover.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, Jaguar and land Rover are actually part of the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: same parent company. They were both acquired by Tatumotors, an
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Indian automotive giant, back in two thousand.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Oh thank you, okay, Papa dumb.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I think that what a lot of these people are
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: going to be fighting for is just brand awareness, because
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: we've had this like influx of car brands and it's
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: actually hard to keep up on you know, who's got
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: what and where they sit in the market and whether
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: they're good. And I reckon that there will be a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: reckoning at some point or another. There's going to have
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to be some of these brands are gonna have to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: sheath off because there's just too much. I think there
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: are more cars than there are people looking to buy
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: cars at this moment.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: So who do you reckon is going to stick around?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I think MG And I would also say, well, obviously byd.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: They're just the sales are killing.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And they're doing interesting things.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Also, like the biggest ev car manufacturer in China, and
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: they have been for years. They've got a lot of
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: money behind them, and they're one of the few that
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: are kind of manufacturing everything every part of their car.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: They manufacture themselves.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I spoke to someone who worked at BYD and they
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, we got to go to a tour
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: of the factory, right and it's like you arrive at
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the factory, the factory is the size of a city
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, okay, well to go get your pass,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you first have to get on the BYD monorail because
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it's so large you can't walk there. So like it's
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: got its own sort of like transport system internally because
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: it's just and like it defies the imagination of someone
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in Australia where you know, where we don't really do
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: manufactor how ridiculously huge and how much money is going
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: into this. So I think b White at this point
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: too big to fail.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Cherry as well. They're making quality stuff and
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: it's being.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Well received like I was in the Ti Go four,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I think, and for the price of what it is,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: no wonder where losing cars like the eagerness, because how
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: could you how could you possibly compete on price? Like
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's just that the what is a cheap car has
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: now really fundamentally changed.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I'll have the double check, but I think in South
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Africa they've launched I think It's like Emota and Cherry
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: are treated as two separate things, and I think Cherry
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: is known as like a luxury car brand over there,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: which is so wild considering like what they've launched here,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: the same car, same sort of stuff at an amazing price.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: It is really hard I think for the Korean car
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: manufacturers to sort of work out who they are in
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: this market, Like what is cheap has just been redefined,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and it's really hard.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's great though. I think it's good. I
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: think it's bringing on more competition. I think it's people
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: in brand new cars, in safe cars, and cars with
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: big warranties like that MG. I hate to bring it
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: up again, but the MG five s ev that was
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: like a ten year warranty.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I think the thing is like a warranty. Yeah, And
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the same thing for the Tigo It's got like a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: seven year warranty something ridiculous. But a warranty is only
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: so good as the parts being available and is it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So it's like when these things start to as all
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: cars inevitably have their issues and whatnot, will they actually
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: be fixable and serviceable. I think that that is that
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the next big test. And you might get people to
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: buy your car once, but if you give them bad
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: service and the parts aren't available and they're on a
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: back order for four years, then what happens? And that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: is the true test of a car. And they haven't
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: been on the roads long enough for us to know that.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I think, look at this stamping it down. You're like
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: the young event of car chournalism.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, just don't just no one
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: in fact check anything I say. Okay, if we can
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: all agree on that, I sound very convincing.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's good. Do you know what I
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: loved you had? You had a rant on your on
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: your socials the other day, right, so many Yeah, yeah, sorry,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: but it was one of my favorite things I like
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to look at on YouTube, and it was I don't
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: know if I'm allowed to say it, but it's the
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: fat chicks at disney Lands.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Plus sized park hoppers.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Leave them alone, sorry, leave them alone, the large ladies
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: of Disneyland, right, and they test out like the different
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: food they test out the different foods and like the rides,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's incredible. They'll be like, Okay, the
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Triple Stack was okay, and the Splash Mountain ride was okay,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: but if you have and they'll pan the camera down
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: if you have a look at me. It's been giving
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: me thy rash.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen them talking about thy rash. I think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's being mean.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I like it. If you if you
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: can't the whole thing, you're dick it under your rampit
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it'll keep one for a couple of hours.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: For people are listening. That is so unfair, you know what.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: They're just a bunch of fat chicks who were who
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: were just like, hey, I'm fat, Like here's what the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: experience is. You might fit in this ride, you might
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: not fit in this ride. And I and here's the thing,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I've got skin in the game. I used to be
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: a fatty, right, not not plus sized park hopper fat
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Fair about like we are we talking.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Look, I reckon, I'm about sixty three or four kilos
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: now right and I would have been about eighty six.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: That's all right, that's me now, yeah.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: But like I didn't carry it well, so like I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: was festive.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Have you got a photo?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I do, but I have to dig it out. It
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: will put it in the show notes.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Can we fat?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Stephanie Stephan, it's like a video and it's more that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: it's more as well as an eighteen year old. I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: just I looked like a fifty year old woman who'd
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: gone through a couple of hard divorces, actually had two
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: teenage sons, which she just didn't like.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like her. No, no, recent shut up
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: and playing your fucking PlayStations. Steph's got to get back
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: from bloody.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to work so hard if your dad
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: didn't leave me for that twenty year old. Eh. Anyway,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: So like that, that was the.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not I'm making fun a little bit. I agree,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: but I genuinely think it's just very it's just very
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: entertaining stuff.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Like they're just like what's nice about them is they're
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: charismatic women who are actually have good chemistry. But you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: go into the comments and people are just so mean
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: in the comments, like the bilogy costs so little.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Just be nice. Come on, come on, if they're putting
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: themselves out there like that, they've got a bloody they're gonna.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Like just for existing. They're not existing now they just
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: say like, hey, we're fat. People were at a theme park.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: We thought this and everyone's like, oh they lose their minds.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're doing more than that. They're going this
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: is if you're if you're like a pluck, what do
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I say? What's the correct thing?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, they call themselves a plus size pack,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: but like you for coppers. But you can you know,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: fat is a descriptive work. Okay, you know I can
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: say I was fat, and I can say that those.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Women are fat? Am I fat? Can I say fat?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're fat.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I think I'm fat. I reckon, I can fat? Okay,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and I reckon that, ye ship. Anyone who sees my
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: like reviews on install where I'm just doing this selfie thing.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: The millennial high angle, Yeah yeah, yeah, they can tell.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: And the amount of times I've got to breathe, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: reckon I can classify as fair.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I think that there is actually a few interesting studies
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: that if you are mean to people on the internet
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and just you know, like just say mean things, you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: are statistically more likely to be a cunt in real life.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: So we can but like you know, if you if
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you if you're an asshole online, you're probably an asshole
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: in real perl probably like just just so just if
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you have the choice between being an awful person online
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: or just seeing that and being like, ah, whatever, I'm
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: going to let that go. And I don't actually have
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to be an arm in which case, in which case,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: like you choose the second option.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It is a bit I feel like, I feel like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: this is going.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: To go up online. I'm just going to get a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of mean comments.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, what about those guys? Have you
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: seen that fairly who goes to like Costco AND's like
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: a double chocolate chip cookie. We're trying it right now.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I love America. I love it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: No wonder you like the Yukon den. Yeah, I'm seeing it.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I'm taking that thing. Cars.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, it's just And the weird sort of dichotomy
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: of me is that I love cars, and I love
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like big cars and stupid cars and petrol and whatever.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: And I also like EV's But you know, I'm a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: bit of a dirty tree hugging greeny as well, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I just try not to think about that. But there
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: is something about the ridiculous consumption of America which I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: find very entertaining and I'm kind of admire. It's like,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: look at you, guys, that's exactly what I care about.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Just get in. There's what I'm talking about with the
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: plus iosed pack.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the yukondinyality like yeah that is that is
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: as big in as of Knoxes as a car. It's
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: good for you.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it. I wonder if they drive a yukondinale.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, they'd have to.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: See I did say that I'm allowed to. I'm allowed
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: to have the tables have turned.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, now I'm the bad guy. Sorry for anyone who
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: actually wanted to hear about cars in that bit.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: No, that's what we're all about. You're putting this podcast
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: on some sort of a pedestal. We barely talk about cars,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: all right, Yeah, will get along.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like I listened to you guys once when
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and I said, they know what they talk about. They're
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: kind of talking about car.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get we'll get to cars eventually. Yes, But
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of like wading through the ship and
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: just just crap that we talk about.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: But hey, if you do want to listen to me
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: rand about dumb shit on Instagram at Koomball's Koomballs at Koomballs,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: my last name is Koomb's Koomballs is mine?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: How we spelling that m B l E S. You
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: know you're going to get a whole heap of men
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: following you.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Like you know what, I'm always I'm always happy to
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: have new symps.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Have you ever got like a creepy dam.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I've got a really nice one once from a guy
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: who was like, I just want to pay you to
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: exist And I'm.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Like, ah no, but not what does that mean? You
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: to exist?
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Let's just pay me to exist? And I'm like, but
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: then I was like, look at this profile. I'm like,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: oh man, you're not rich enough to do that, Like
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you can't.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Is that a nice way of going, Hey, here's two
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks, which you No.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't even like you should have an only fans.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, he was probably like a little
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: pay pig. I don't want to take money from someone who's.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I totally will and I'm open to that ship. Yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: if you want to pay me. Hey, by the way,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: if anyone's listening and wants to DM and pay me
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: two hundred bucks, I will.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: You'll take the money, I will get my ill do
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: a little dance for it.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I will get my butt out, I'll get my butthole
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: and I'll.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Be up and I will give you two hundred dollars
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: to not see your butthole?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Would you get? Yeah, pay me to bucks. Right now
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm getting my ass out.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I worried to Yeah like that, that's
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: how you could actually make money. Yeah, it's like reverse
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: only fans.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: It's like every day I get two hundred.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Bucks, I get two undred bucks.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to show you my bunghole.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to threaten. I'm going to threaten to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: get my dick out. Yeah.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I reckon new business models.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: But I want three hundred bucks to keep it in.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I reckon people would.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Pay for the health and safety of people. Please, we
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: do not want to see your tiny pinos.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, this is the next iteration of the Driver's Show.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it is. We're wrapping up, by the way.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've talked about have we talked enough?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Have we missed anything? I don't know, do you know?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: So Paul's been away everywhere, and one of the places
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: he was at is Goodwood because he loves a little
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: good Wood, and I was five kinds of jealous. So
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: what I've kind of done is I'm making it my
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: little New Year's resolution. Oh right, yeah, So I know
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: it's like we're mid year, but I kind of said
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: to myself, so this time next year, I'm definitely doing Goodwood. Yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to happen?
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: See, I've got this thing called radio ratings, and I
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: don't know if they'll let me go in.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. You just have to pull a
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: really convincing sicky. Yeah, have a little mental breakdown. I
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: could do that, Yeah exactly, Like.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: That's pretty common in my game, and they'll believe it
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: coming from me.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And then you can do a podcast about men's depression
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: or something, and then then you're.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: We can talk about our problems. Yeah exactly. I have
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: said that to Paul so many times. I said, if
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to get this podcast up, you need to
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: start fucking crying. I need you to talk about your
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: mental health as I need you to share. I need
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: you to be vulnerable.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I would love to see him being vulnerable. I don't
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: know if if Paul could do it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: We're looking at him right now, we can see the
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: photo right now. Do you think every morning he looks
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: in the mirror and just goes, why did Jesus make
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: me so deformed?
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: He has the cold dead eyes of a killer.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: He does. He's very were wolfy, he's very hairy.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And I actually tried to get writting work for car Expert?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Did you the ghosted me?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: No, way to reply?
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: No, No, it was he well, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: But Paul you bitch.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Well I don't. I don't think I got in touch
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: with Paul. Actually someone else in the team. But that's fine.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I'll let that go. I now have a few little
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: places I write for and it goes through.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, many publications I am.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I am many well storied publications.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Hey, before we wrap, you have a three cars to
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: go into a dream garage. I'd be keen.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's too hard, No, it's not.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Let me help you out one classic one EV. Now
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: here's the deal. I always think at the moment where
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: I'm at in my headspace, is you kind of it's
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: like a topic of bad depression game, So you kind
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: of have to have, like I reckon, it's a good
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  Speaker 2: idea to have like some sort of hybrid or EV,
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  Speaker 2: preferably EV and plus a supercar.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly I'm honestly stumped by this. If I was
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: going to go something old, i'd want something a little
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: bit weird. I think, like nineteen eighties cars really beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: So I would consider like a Mitsubishi Starion, for example,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: which is I don't think that was particularly good car
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  Speaker 1: to drive, but the ad campaign for the Starion at
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the time was quite like sort of punky, sort of
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: new wavy, really cool, really sort of retro Japanese campaign
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: new order. It was quite beautiful in the car itself.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: It's funny, how you know, when you're a kid, nineteen
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: eighties cars look a bit, you know, ridiculous, but now
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: they're so cool like that sort of like really boxy aesthetic.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: You look at even like the Only like I'm a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Porsche fanatic, you look at even like the nine to eights,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: they were like what the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they look kind of cool now
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: yeah they do. So I'd want something kind of silly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like i'd want a car and like in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: good condition, but silly good condition.
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  Speaker 2: EV.
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  Speaker 1: The X ninety is is top of mind, literally because
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  Speaker 1: I was just in it and I haven't driven a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: lot of EV, so I know that one is good.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I am a bit of a BMW fan. I would
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: love to drive some bmwev's.
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  Speaker 2: Probably one that doesn't catch on fire like yours.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair to my car. It's an X one
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: from like twenty fourteen, so you know it is at
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: that time where it just catches on fire occasionally. But
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I love I'd do the Batist twelve hour, oh every year.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I love the Bathist twelve hour. And the BMW is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: the one. We're just shockingly like shockingly beautiful. New M
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: twos are good, you know, speaking of cars that sort
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: of grow on you, like the BMW with the sort
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: of toothy grill looked ridiculous, I think when they first
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: came out and they released something and it looks really absurd,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and then they sort of pull it back a little
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: bit in later iterations, and so like I think the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: X five M is a good looking car like that
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: looks like a weapon on the road. Yeah, beautiful, like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that really so sharp.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I've been looking at the X three and the X
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: five and forty eyes and yeah, they look they're just solid,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: They're so good.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a Mercedes New Air Class error
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: as well, because that would be oh, i'd be interested
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to know how that goes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: We don't talk about Mercedes on this podcast, don't we. No,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: no no, because my dad got his MERK stolen quite recently.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Really yeah yeah, and Mercedes refused to turn on the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: tracking device. It's a whole thing, right, Oh okay, some
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: of the reels, it's all in there.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the GT you know, AMG Like I find
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: those really cars like big, big fronthood, so maybe maybe
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: one of those.
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  Speaker 2: It was really disheartening when all that happened because I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm never going to fucking buy a Murger gam.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: But and then you see one and you're like, oh,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: they're beautiful. Yeah, it's so nice, Like I forgive you.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like a on the crazy Hot Girlfriends goal, right,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: like it's crazy hot but treat you bad, but so hot.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: That's like, I'm sorry, babe, come back to you.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Crazy hot girlfriends never going to bring you a sign
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: you for lunch, that's the problem.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: They're not they're not, but they're so hot. And then
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know you've seen with them and everyone's like wow,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: look at that, like look at that, so like that's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: She's home maintenance cost you a lot of the mechanics I.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah hah ha. But but also she's hot. Yeah
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I would. I would be considering you know, some AMG
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: tootle ridiculous thing, any anything BMW would be great. Good
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: pics yeah yeah, so look I mean good pics, but
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: also something silly, you know a little silly. It's something,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: you know, something that's little drive and ridiculous.
• 1:02:51
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