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Anti-Muslim Panic Is Platforming The Mamdani's Of The World | Abdul El-Sayed vs Jesse Watters · Papa Gut

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  All right, guys, listen, I this caught my eye.
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  I've been seeing some clips around here and I I think I like
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  this guy. You know, I know he's Muslim and
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  you know, conservatives having a meltdown about it, but he seems
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  decent. And apparently El Syed isn't
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  like a big DSA member, which is, you know, a little bit of a
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  little more extreme left wing position, probably in response
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  to the extreme right wing position of the entire MAGA
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  movement. But this looks interesting, man.
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  So we're doing this. We're going to have some fun.
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  Let's have some fun here. This is Jesse.
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  Did you guys know that this guy's name is Jesse Watters
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  Waters. Oh, Jesse Watters.
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  I don't know. I just don't like his name.
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  I thought it was Walters. Jesse Watters.
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  I don't know. Whatever.
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  Let's watch it. It's called Elsayed Grill.
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  I don't think you're very good at math.
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  There's an irony here from this guy, I'm pretty sure.
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  Oh, this. Wait, that's actually super
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  funny. This is the funny part about him
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  saying that he doesn't know math.
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  Look. Watch.
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  You're very good at math, so see if you can do this in your head.
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  You probably can if you're making $20.00 an hour.
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  Quick maths probably 40,000 a year, maybe a little bit more.
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  Right to work at a fast food restaurant.
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  Yeah, right. Is that, is that 6 figures?
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  Are you? Is that is that 6 figures?
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  It's wow. Wait, so who's bad at math?
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  Jesse Waters is saying that Al Syed's bad at math.
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  But $20.00 an hour is 6 figures taking no no 5050 fifty is just
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  two exits 2 and not a few zeros. OK, so. 40 KA year, OK.
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  Full time 40 KA year so and then.
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  OK. So now he knows it's about 40 KA
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  year, OK. Her husband or wife is also
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  there. You're making $100,000 as a
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  family, Sure. Sure, guys.
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  Hey, did you know $20.00 an hour is 66 figures?
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  No, all right, it's $40,000 a year.
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  Well, if you know, if you have two $40,000 a year salaries at
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  six figures, he he can't like he's got nothing. 6 figures is
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  $100,000 a year and more. This is the guy saying that El
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  Syed is bad at math Holy fuck. Both working at McDonald's. 80
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  grand. That is OK, That's crazy.
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  That is crazy. Why is that crazy?
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  Who cares? I don't understand.
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  Why is that crazy? You got fucking billionaires we
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  can have. We can pay fast food workers
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  $20.00 an hour. Used to be able to own a house
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  on like a minimum wage salary so why can't you now?
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  I don't get it. Because that job really doesn't
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  require much. That's irony.
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  Neither does your job. Good stuff.
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  That's not even including taxes, by the way.
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  So it's inflating the entire, you know, labor sector and.
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  Wow, what a moron. The Happy Meal and the Happy
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  Meal. You're very good at maths.
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  What a fucking moron. Sorry, just wanted to bring that
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  up. This guy's a fucking idiot.
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  Well, anyway, let's watch this. Michigan Senate candidate Abdul
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  El Sayed joins us. Now how you doing?
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  Abdul. I'm good, Jesse.
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  I appreciate the opportunity for a good wholesome conversation
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  and I just want to start where we agree.
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  I'm sure it'll be good and wholesome.
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  We both played football in lacrosse.
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  We both love America. We both love freedom.
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  That's crazy that's lacrosse is the widest sport ever and
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  football means Jesse probably has a TVI and I'm.
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  Looking forward to the conversation.
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  Absolutely. We'll see how much we agree on.
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  I know I don't agree with you on this.
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  You want to abolish ICE? Oh shit.
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  Who's going to deport the criminal aliens from the
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  country? It's a different organization
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  that doesn't execute people and get 0 accountability for it.
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  Well, you and I both know that we've long before we ever had
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  ICE, We had INS. We were able to enforce our
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  immigration policies without shooting people in the face, in
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  the back of the head. And we just celebrated our 250th
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  anniversary. That was an anniversary of
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  throwing away tyranny. Now to bring that tyranny back
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  under the guise of the US government itself, that seems to
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  me to be inconsistent with the freedom you and I both love.
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  Yeah. But I mean, that's a dodge.
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  Well, that wasn't a dodge. I mean, that was instantaneously
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  the best response I think anybody could ever give.
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  Well. They did the same thing as ice
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  pack then INS. Do you know how many illegal
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  aliens are in the country? Now who cares, man?
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  Face in the back of the head. Do you know how many illegal
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  aliens are in the? Country how many illegal aliens
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  are working for Trump hotels? How about that question?
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  Who invited them in? It's the fucking corporate
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  elites that wanted illegal immigrants in here for cheap
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  labor. So, you know, you can sit here
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  and complain about it, but you guys, you, you, all of you guys
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  invited them in and now you're complaining about it 'cause you
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  need a talking point, but you'll never let them get leave the
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  country 'cause the, the, the elites conservative that like
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  progressive, they want them in here.
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  Right now. We had no Let me to your point,
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  Jesse, Jesse, let me just answer the.
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  Question to answer it, how many do we have?
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  Fewer when we had INS to your to your answer.
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  Yeah, we, yeah. Exactly when we had, Yeah,
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  exactly, we believe. That Abdul Listen, we had twice
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  as many illegals now when we had one so.
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  Your argument. You have to have the main power
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  to. Do it if.
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  You well, the problem is if you look at the numbers, like ICE
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  has significantly reduced the amount of money that it's
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  putting towards like helping children.
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  And they're just, they're literally just like a political
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  arm, like they're in Minnesota around just so that Trump could
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  be like, oh, look, Democrats are bad.
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  Like there was no reason to send ICE into Minnesota because there
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  was some fraud in Minnesota with Somali immigrants.
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  You would send auditors there to help them out, take care of
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  their backlog because that was the biggest issue.
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  None of this makes any sense. You want to do that correlation?
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  We have ICE now and we have far, far more undocumented people.
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  So ICE is clearly not working. You're just shooting like
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  American citizens in the face, in the back of the head.
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  So illegals are shooting people in the face.
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  Too to disagree. Some of them are sure.
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  I hold usually them to lower standards than ICE officers and
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  also they're less. Illegal immigrants are
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  committing less crimes than actual residents so agree.
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  You got a guy in Michigan, American citizens, you got a
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  guy. Let me just.
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  I love the delay on Elsayed's Decides making everything so
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  funny. Responsibility to get back.
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  To the conversation about the broader issues, OK, well, you
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  cut me off, Jesse and I just, you said we're going to have a
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  good conversation, so I'd like to do that.
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  I just want to answer the point when I travel the state, and I
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  have travelled my state, more people are asking me about how
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  they're going to afford their gas and groceries.
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  They're not asking me about immigration.
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  Well, they also don't really get misused it Abdul, you got it.
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  What the fuck does that mean? Also, listen, you guys can't,
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  you guys can't do the vert of the, the like the rape virtue
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  signal because that's what Jesse Watters is doing, right?
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  Trump is a rapist, bro. Like you can't be like, oh, they
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  don't want to get molested. Like what is the what's the
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  argument? It's OK for the whites to molest
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  somebody That feels a little safer, I guess.
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  What's your argument? You guys can't talk about sexual
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  assault or any of that shit. Guy here from Southeast Asia
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  molested a kid. Ice just picked him up.
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  Cool, good. Get rid of him.
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  You want that guy to stay in Michigan?
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  I think we should make a president.
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  Actually. They might as well fuck it,
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  right? I'm I'm glad that that guy got
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  picked up, but that's a different.
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  Make him president. Thing than saying that insurance
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  would not have picked him up. Jesse, you're too smart for
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  this. It's a bureaucratic game here
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  and that's a die. You need guys to get these guys
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  out of the country. Therefore, ice.
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  We need ice. I'm just saying, look, playing
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  by your own rules, When we had insurance, we had fewer people
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  doing the thing. The problem is, is that ICE has
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  become like, basically is worthless.
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  Now. This is the issue is that like,
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  ICE has become an institution where, like, it is being
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  weaponized by Trump. So like, yeah, get rid of ICE.
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  We have the insurance. You want to create a new
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  institution. I don't think that that's such a
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  big deal. Why not?
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  I mean, I don't think you can do that with the police, even
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  though they have some deep levels of corruption because
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  that's a much bigger institution.
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  But like, yeah, you know, you can kind of restructure ICE in
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  some capacity at the very least. That's.
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  Because Biden didn't blow over the border back.
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  Then when we had. Well he didn't blow open the
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  border. There was a backlog of people
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  trying to come in because of COVID, which Trump made worse.
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  All right, that's because Biden didn't blow open the border.
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  That's not a nice question. That's a that's ACBP question.
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  No, you guys let in a ton of people.
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  That's true. Customs and Border Patrol, Yeah.
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  And we got to get him out and we'll take the guys out the way
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  we need to take him out. What does that mean?
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  You're going to take him out to dinner?
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  Hey, Gay. Green New Deal, you back that
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  up. Do you drive an electric car?
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  Isn't the Green New Deal just like a way for the country to
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  especially businesses to move forward to just have like a less
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  of a footprint? What?
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  What does it matter if he drives an electric car?
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  I mean, I guess he has the money.
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  He should drive an electric car but OK.
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  I drive a plug in hybrid made right in the United States.
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  The bigger question about cars? He just fucking owned you,
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  Jesse. What the fuck?
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  As though is why the president just started a trade war or
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  escalated a trade war with Canada.
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  It's about to make all of our cars, especially the internal
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  combustion engine cars, so much more expensive.
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  You want to get rid of the internal combustion engine.
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  Prices. No, I don't.
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  Who told you that? That's what the green new.
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  Deal says to design internal combustion engines.
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  I the Green New Deal, I'm guaranteeing you, is talking
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  about pushing towards greener energy usage.
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  No. The Green New Deal says phase
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  out fossil fuels. Yeah, phase out over a period of
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  time. Renewable energy opportunities.
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  Look, I'm not going to defend the Green New Deal.
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  What I'm telling you, though, is that we.
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  Could make a whole You're on the record backing the Green New
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  Deal. Look, I'm just telling you this.
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  Are you opposed to the idea that we could reduce energy costs and
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  create jobs? I love that he's just like
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  ignoring the bullshit parts of the questions.
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  It's actually so good. This is so funny.
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  Jobs in Michigan. Absolutely, but I don't want
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  windmills in Lake MI. Well, why do we need windmills?
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  We could do like nuclear energy in solar.
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  So you are absolutely, you're absolutely opposed to that?
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  Yeah, I don't want to put windmills in Lake, MI I don't.
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  I don't think the people in Michigan want.
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  That in Michigan right now. This is so, this is so funny to
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  me because I think it's totally reasonable for people in
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  Michigan to not want windmills also else I had supported the
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  Green New Deal seven years ago. Like, OK, cool.
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  So I don't know what it is now versus then, but OK, fine.
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  But yeah, like, of course people in Michigan don't want
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  windmills, but we have like a bigger issue right now, which is
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  like AI data centers are being forced into towns all over the
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  country without any of the people in those towns having a
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  say. And it's just, it's such an, and
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  like Fox supports that I wouldn't support forcing
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  windmills into any state or area.
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  I think something like expanding solar energy or nuclear energy
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  could be incredible. But you just see, like, the
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  hypocrisy from the right is like specifically here, this guy
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  supports every AI data centers. Fox News is an entire
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  infrastructure machine to support Trump's narrative of
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  having no accountability for AI data Centers for 10 years.
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  You have people like that. What is it?
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  What's that fucking moron, that bald idiot moron forcing AI data
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  centers into areas, getting massive government subsidies for
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  something that like is destructive to the like the
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  local environment. And when it comes to like sound
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  and everything we had like, those people have no say.
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  And you're like, oh, people don't want windmills.
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  You don't care. You don't give a shit.
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  You don't fucking care about that.
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  You don't care about forcing a particular infrastructure.
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  The only difference is that like windmills would be good instead
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  in the in that it would try to reduce pollution.
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  So you can make a better argument for a windmill than an
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  AI data center that just kills jobs.
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  It's just stupid. Federman is that No, not
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  Federman. The other guy was all Mr.
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  Incredible or whatever was her wonderful not fucking moron.
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  So it's just like it's a it's such a virtue signal.
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  You know they don't give a fuck about this.
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  Wait, you're. Running on that, that's not
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  going to go over to a. Pipeline.
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  No, no, I mean, Jesse, look, we can, we can have a conversation
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  if you want to. You want to keep cutting me off,
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  we can keep doing that too. But you told me we're going to
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  have a good conversation. I just want to talk about
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  something right now. It's funny because the cut off
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  is because he's delayed on the. Inside we have an oil pipeline
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  in the Great Lakes. If that oil pipeline were to
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  burst, the consequences for our Great Lakes would be disastrous.
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  Now you're telling me that you'd rather have a situation where
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  that happened than a, than a, than a windmill like that really
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  is so offensive to you? Those windmills are are.
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  Good news saying I don't want to get rid of fossil fuels, and
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  that's what the Green New Deal does.
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  Why wouldn't you want to get rid of fossil fuels?
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  Why would you want to have a force dependency on something
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  that's completely controlled by billionaires?
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  Like I don't we shouldn't get rid of them tomorrow, but what
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  if we slowly phase them out? Oh, OK.
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  Let's move on. You want to.
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  Soak the readers. Rab Dole, let's 'cause we got
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  this isn't a podcast. I got to sell ads in the breaks.
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  You want to soak the rich? Let's listen to what you said
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  about the taxes. Run it.
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  Let's hear it. I also think we got to start
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  taxing wealth for people who have over $100 million.
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  I mean, at that point, like, what do you think are you going
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  to do with more money? True.
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  What do you Whoa, holy fuck, what a damning clip.
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  You going to do with more money? Is that, is that like the MAGA
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  strategy to like listen to something very reasonable and
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  laugh at it? Like if it's not reasonable.
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  What? Whatever I want.
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  I mean, Jesse, I don't know how much you make.
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  I'm not a billion. I think I'd rather have.
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  Well, yeah. Look, so that's exactly it,
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  right? The question ultimately is, do
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  you want to drive on good roads or would you rather have a
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  billionaire make a second billion?
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  That's what Mike Rogers wants. That's what Donald Trump.
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  It's fucking based, yeah. Wants.
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  Apparently that's what you want. I think the people in Michigan
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  want something different. They want good roads and good
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  schools. So you're saying so?
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  You're saying Beyoncé, who just became a billionaire, she has to
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  break you off something every year?
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  Sure. She has to pay the politicians.
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  It's not me, it's the American public.
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  You're the one that wants the money.
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  To be able to contribute back to the public schools that she went
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  to, I think she'd be happy to invest in good roads in her
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  community. I think she'd be happy to pay a
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  little bit more so that every. Why is this laughable?
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  But he had a little bit more you're.
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  Reaching a little deep into the popular funding.
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  Billionaires from your channel? Just not really.
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  This is one of the problems. And This is why I don't like
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  billionaires more than anything else.
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  I specifically don't like people who don't pay income or as much
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  income as they should or they don't pay as much income tax as
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  they should, Right? Like this is a huge deal that
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  people need to be like an understanding of why
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  billionaires are so bad. And it's the way that they dodge
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  taxes. So a typical person, you know,
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  they get taxes, they get, they get paid.
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  Let's say you get paid like $1,000,000 a year, you're going
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  to pay pretty big taxes on that. So if you made $1,000,000, you'd
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  pay about $325,000 on income tax federal only.
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  That's not including state or payroll taxes, which are Social
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  Security, Medicare, Medicaid. Social Security is capped at a
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  certain amount, which is, which is kind of fucking ridiculous.
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  They need to uncap that. Once you make $200,000 a year,
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  you're paying the same as, you know what I mean?
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  That's ridiculous. They need to uncap that.
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  But anyway, that doesn't really matter.
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  People who make $1,000,000 and pay 3, like they paid like 30%
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  of their income to it. That's good, that's cool, you're
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  making your money. You're paying into the system
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  for roads, bridges, highways, police officers, fire
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  departments, schools, blah blah blah.
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  We should do healthcare too. The problem is that there are
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  people like Elon Musk and probably Beyoncé frankly, that
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  they get to a a billion by not really paying themselves.
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  Like I think Elon Musk pays themselves like $80,000 a year.
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  So they won't pay themselves. Instead they have an inflated
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  stock value, which they get often times by mass firings and
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  doing like stock buybacks, etcetera, etcetera.
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  And what they do is instead of pay themselves $1,000,000 a
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  year, they go to the bank and say, hey, I'm rich.
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  I have a billion dollars in assets.
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  I have a trillion dollars in assets.
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  I want to take out a loan of $1,000,000.
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  And the banks say, of course we'll give you a low interest
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  rate loan. We don't give a fuck.
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  So now they get $1,000,000. Now do they have to pay 3% on
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  that every year? Sure.
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  But does that really matter when you get the 3% interest loan
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  instead of paying having to pay 30% so that they take that extra
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  money that they made, which was like another $250,000 more than
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  that. And they invested into more real
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  estate property so they can inflate their value.
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  And they give it to politicians to make laws that make it
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  difficult for the rest of us to live.
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  Like for instance, why are houses so expensive?
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  Because politicians or excuse me, these billionaires own real
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  estate property. If we build more houses, their
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  real estate property is worth less, which means they have less
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  leverage when they go to the banks.
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  So what do they do? And they give it to politicians.
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  So those politicians can go, oh, OK, I will make sure.
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  It's really difficult to build a new house in California.
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  That's the problem with billionaires.
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  But like, you have to educate yourself on why, like having
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  like, people are like, oh, they just have money.
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  Like, we hate them for that. I hate them that they dodge
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  paying taxes and that we don't have anybody who's trying to
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  stop that. So like, yeah, a wealth tax
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  sounds like the right way to go. OK, go for it.
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  Why not implement A wealth tax and make it so that like if you
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  pay income tax, that can cut into your wealth tax?
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  These people never should have gotten as much money as they had
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  and they don't need it. It's ridiculous.
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  See, that's a that's a crazy thing.
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  A year I've got you or 4. I'm just saying look at the end
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  of the day, I thought you were for the everyday man.
• 16:00
  Like if you're 4 billionaires more than your for everybody,
• 16:01
  the person you and I are just going to disagree.
• 16:03
  With no, I just think I have the right to the fruits of my own
• 16:06
  labor. That's America.
• 16:08
  It's not communist what you're talking about.
• 16:10
  No problem with it. No it's not.
• 16:12
  You socialize healthcare. Billionaires don't make money.
• 16:14
  Let me just answer the question. No, no, let me, let me, let me
• 16:16
  go back to that. Go ahead.
• 16:16
  Billionaires don't make their money off of their labor.
• 16:18
  That I think is where you, you, you head off billionaires that
• 16:22
  make their money off their money.
• 16:23
  So if you have a billion dollars, your billion makes
• 16:26
  another 100 million. That's not the fruits of your
• 16:28
  labor. That's just the fruits of your
• 16:29
  money making money. I think it's OK.
• 16:31
  Like if we talk to you at 7%, you still gonna make what, a
• 16:33
  cool $30 million off your billion dollars?
• 16:35
  I think it's OK. They're gonna be OK, Jesse.
• 16:36
  Yeah, I just, I just don't like the idea of politicians like you
• 16:40
  capping how much money people make in America.
• 16:43
  That's what their job is like. I know politicians are not
• 16:45
  great, but the the idea is that politicians are supposed to work
• 16:49
  for us. If we can figure out how to get
• 16:51
  lobby groups to not be so fucking strong, like certain
• 16:54
  ones from other countries that get us into wars, then people
• 16:57
  will have more trust in the American political system.
• 17:00
  But that's the that's the kind of the job of politicians is to
• 17:02
  be like, oh, let's work for you. They don't work for us as much
• 17:08
  because of all this lobby bullshit.
• 17:10
  But like, that's the idea. That's just me.
• 17:12
  We can have the voters in Michigan decide.
• 17:15
  You say you want socialized healthcare.
• 17:18
  Let's see how he makes this look bad.
• 17:20
  Abdul how much is that going to cost?
• 17:23
  Less than we all pay individually right now.
• 17:27
  That's your, that's a fact. Every other Western country that
• 17:31
  implements healthcare, it's better than our healthcare.
• 17:33
  It's less expensive and it's more accessible.
• 17:35
  It's just a fact. It's uncontested fact.
• 17:38
  We're already paying significant amounts of money.
• 17:40
  What's the difference if you pay more taxes but less overall
• 17:43
  money? Like, listen, here's my health,
• 17:45
  my wife and my and my, our healthcare together cost us
• 17:49
  something like, I want to say $7000 a year just on like what
• 17:56
  is it the premiums? And then we have a $9000 out of
• 18:00
  pocket. So we're paying $16,000 a year.
• 18:05
  A lot of the Healthcare is like ridiculously inflated.
• 18:07
  So the insurance companies think they're getting a good deal or
• 18:09
  whatever. So we have to pay $16,000 a year
• 18:12
  to activate healthcare for a doctor's appointment that if you
• 18:15
  go there it's like a $200, but if you're uninsured the price is
• 18:19
  like $80.00 right? What if instead of me paying
• 18:24
  $16,000? Or what if I still paid $16,000
• 18:29
  because my wife and I do decently money wise, but then
• 18:33
  poor people get cheaper healthcare.
• 18:36
  That's what would happen. Upper middle class people like
• 18:38
  me would pay the same but poor people would get more
• 18:41
  healthcare. I like that.
• 18:45
  So yeah, let's do some kind of a public option.
• 18:48
  It's also really good for small businesses.
• 18:51
  Imagine being a small business and like, you can't, like you
• 18:53
  want to get good workers, but like, it's hard, but all of a
• 18:56
  sudden somebody can work for you and have the healthcare covered.
• 18:58
  All of a sudden you're going to get people that want to work for
• 19:01
  you and they'll work hard for you because they have healthcare
• 19:03
  and they know that they're taken care of and now you know that
• 19:05
  they can go to the doctor and they're not going to get sick
• 19:07
  and die on you. There's really no reason not to
• 19:12
  do healthcare. It's a massive investment into
• 19:14
  people and small businesses and small businesses are the
• 19:17
  lifeblood of America. So let's see what he what's
• 19:21
  what's the fucking crybaby water has to say, though?
• 19:24
  It's. Gonna cost the average
• 19:27
  Michigandra a whole lot less than they pay right now.
• 19:29
  True, but I'm just gonna tell you.
• 19:31
  No, but what's the price tag of the?
• 19:32
  Program voted to raise prescription drug prices 19 * 19
• 19:36
  times, right? And so I'm just saying I want to
• 19:39
  bring your costs down. The price of the program is
• 19:41
  going to be substantially less for an everyday person who's out
• 19:45
  here who can't afford their health care and worried about
• 19:47
  losing their health care with their job.
• 19:48
  Well, give. Me the.
• 19:49
  Total number, While you're out here trying to talk about the
• 19:51
  broader national budget, I'm a lot more interested in the
• 19:54
  everyday budgets that Michiganders are thinking about.
• 19:56
  And that's exactly the budget that Donald Trump and Mike
• 19:59
  Rogers are blowing up right now. Well, I just don't see why
• 20:01
  you're so on the side of the billionaires, Jesse, rather than
• 20:03
  on the side of everyday Michiganders.
• 20:04
  No, because I don't want you guys to blow the country up.
• 20:07
  Do you know how much the? That felt that felt like that
• 20:12
  felt like you said that because he's a Muslim guy.
• 20:14
  Federal budget is now. Doesn't Trump want to expand it
• 20:18
  by like $500 billion by expanding the military because
• 20:22
  he got us into a war we shouldn't be in?
• 20:23
  What's What kind of budgetary virtue signal is that?
• 20:26
  Not neither do I. Here's here's exactly the
• 20:28
  federal budget. You guys want to write Pete
• 20:30
  Hegseth, It has to answer your question.
• 20:32
  Do you know what the federal budget is to raise?
• 20:34
  No, no, no, no, no. I just, I just want to talk
• 20:36
  about this. Look, you want to talk about
• 20:38
  budgets? I'm happy to do that.
• 20:39
  The guy who used to work on your channel, I think he was like the
• 20:41
  6th host on The Five. He wanted to raise our military
• 20:46
  budget to $1.5 trillion. And you don't seem to be upset
• 20:48
  about that. What, so we can fight a war we
• 20:51
  don't know how to get out of, to raise our gas prices $5 a
• 20:53
  gallon? That doesn't make sense to me,
• 20:55
  Jesse. We want to talk about the things
• 20:56
  that we. That's the way that you answer
• 20:57
  when, when he's, he's getting asked about like, hey,
• 20:59
  healthcare will increase the, you know, the deficit, which
• 21:03
  again, it'll be cheaper for us to do socialized healthcare
• 21:05
  instead of what we do now overall.
• 21:08
  But like Jesse's like, oh, the budget will go up.
• 21:10
  Republicans don't care about the budget going up like ever.
• 21:12
  Like, just to be clear, the Republicans are the party of
• 21:13
  like fiscal irresponsibility, right?
• 21:16
  Like Obama, You can criticize them all you want.
• 21:18
  Obama came in and lowered the deficit.
• 21:20
  He cut it in half and he inherited the worst recession
• 21:23
  since the recession since the Great Depression.
• 21:24
  Trump came in and inflated for no reason, had a good economy.
• 21:27
  He just inflated it. Obama inherited 1.3 trillion,
• 21:30
  knocked it down to 650 billion. Trump boosted it to a trillion
• 21:33
  before COVID. Biden didn't reduce it, but
• 21:35
  Biden had to deal with COVID. Trump came in and he's now he's
• 21:38
  inflating it again. Trump.
• 21:39
  Trump's been responsible for more than 1/4 of the overall
• 21:41
  debt, what we possess. So like, you know, this guy has
• 21:45
  his lips puckered into Trump's asshole and he's in a virtue
• 21:48
  signal about how much things cost is ridiculous.
• 21:50
  He actually to spend on I have. A feeling at home.
• 21:53
  You don't even know how much money the government spends
• 21:56
  every year, do you know? Do you know, I think it's like
• 22:00
  $7 trillion and we have like a $1 trillion deficit.
• 22:04
  Wow. On the on the motherfucking
• 22:05
  nose. Yeah, about $7 trillion a year
• 22:08
  with about a trillion dollar deficit.
• 22:10
  Wow, smart guy I am. Holy fucking bazookers.
• 22:15
  Look the the question Jesse to me all.
• 22:17
  Right. So you don't know.
• 22:18
  Let me tell you what it is. It's $7 trillion a year.
• 22:21
  And your plan, Jesse, to take over the health care system that
• 22:24
  that that is here's the problem with it.
• 22:26
  So. I doubt it, but even if it is,
• 22:29
  who cares? It'll be less money out of all
• 22:31
  of our pockets. To exactly your point, do you
• 22:34
  know what? I'm not very good at math.
• 22:35
  I don't think we're very good at math either, but go ahead.
• 22:38
  Clearly, but clearly, clearly, you don't, and you don't seem to
• 22:42
  care. But I don't think most Americans
• 22:44
  want to spend that much money on military escapades so that the
• 22:49
  folks stranded on the USS Abraham Lincoln can't even get a
• 22:52
  sausage for breakfast. I just think that we could do a
• 22:54
  lot better with our money, Jesse.
• 22:55
  And I think that's where you and I.
• 22:57
  Yeah, I just disagree. I just, I think if you spend $4
• 23:00
  trillion, everything else is going to get really expensive.
• 23:04
  You're going to. Why would everything else get
• 23:05
  expensive? I don't understand.
• 23:07
  Look back at Biden inflation and you're going to wish you were
• 23:09
  back there. But you brought up foreign
• 23:11
  policy. Where is he getting $4 trillion
• 23:13
  from? Just a quick overview is
• 23:19
  apparently Medicare for all, if we go with that system would
• 23:21
  cost between 25 and $35 trillion / 10 years.
• 23:24
  So that's 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 trillion dollars a year.
• 23:29
  I don't really think that's that bad.
• 23:32
  But then that's I first of all, that's also, I don't really
• 23:34
  think that that's going to include the bargaining power
• 23:37
  that Medicare and Medicaid have or Medicare has 'cause that's
• 23:41
  one of the problems that that these like, you know, you can,
• 23:44
  you can what that fucking one asshole brought up like what,
• 23:46
  like the AIDS vaccine or something, or insulin.
• 23:49
  And then he like quadrupled the price.
• 23:52
  You know, that's part of the bargaining power.
• 23:54
  And like, yeah, people would be more willing to spend more money
• 23:57
  in taxes if they had free healthcare, so.
• 24:01
  You'll talk about inflation. I'd be happy to talk about
• 24:03
  inflation. Jesse, you actually said, you
• 24:04
  said the word because everywhere I go in Michigan, people are
• 24:07
  talking about the fact that they've never had to worry as
• 24:10
  much about life being as unaffordable as they say right
• 24:14
  now. Now, I get it, Donald Trump
• 24:16
  likes to blame everything on his predecessor.
• 24:19
  But let's be clear, This is Donald Trump's economy right
• 24:21
  now. And he's about to make
• 24:22
  everything so much worse because he's in a vanity war with the
• 24:25
  Prime Minister of Canada. And look, like I'm in Michigan
• 24:28
  and you're from New York, right? So, you know, Canadians, man,
• 24:30
  they're the only people I know who apologize before they even
• 24:32
  did his thing. So now they're raising the
• 24:34
  tariff to 50%. What's that going to do to
• 24:36
  inflation? Yeah, what is spending 4
• 24:38
  trillion going to do? I think it's going to make it a
• 24:40
  lot worse. But you.
• 24:42
  I doubt it would cost that much money.
• 24:43
  The war, Are you glad? Like, realistically speaking,
• 24:46
  the best way to go when it comes to health care is to offer a
• 24:48
  public option to people who want to take it.
• 24:51
  And if it's better than the current option that you're on,
• 24:54
  you will take it. And if it's not, you won't take
• 24:57
  it and it will phase itself out. It's the safest bet.
• 25:00
  There's nothing wrong with that. But yeah, it would raise taxes.
• 25:02
  OK, you're still paying less overall, whether you pay an
• 25:06
  extra $200 a month in taxes or an extra $300 a month in
• 25:09
  healthcare. That's that's not taxed.
• 25:11
  Like what's it's just the fungibility of money.
• 25:13
  Like it doesn't fucking. It really doesn't matter.
• 25:15
  And the Ayatollah is dead. OK.
• 25:19
  Yeah. I mean, look, he was a terrible
• 25:20
  person, but that's beyond the point.
• 25:22
  The bigger question is, should we have gone to war in the 1st
• 25:24
  place? Good question.
• 25:26
  I just want to be clear with you, right?
• 25:27
  I mean, I'm never going to defend the Iranian regime, but I
• 25:30
  am going to defend the idea that we probably shouldn't be
• 25:33
  fighting wars we don't know how to get out of.
• 25:35
  That's true. That is true.
• 25:36
  That's a good point. Yeah.
• 25:37
  Just because there are bad people like Putin's a horrible
• 25:39
  person, why aren't we going to war with Russia?
• 25:41
  Oh, OK, well, it's 'cause Trump is in Russia's pocket, right?
• 25:43
  Oopsie. You go to war and you tell us
• 25:45
  that it's going to be a special military operation.
• 25:48
  That was in February. We're now in September almost,
• 25:51
  and we're still fighting the special military operation.
• 25:53
  I mean it's not working. For us, just as we're not
• 25:55
  deciding exactly what we got. In the White House, who doesn't
• 25:58
  know what he's doing? So you'd go back in time, you'd
• 26:01
  give them back their nuke program, you'd give them back
• 26:04
  their Air Force. Trump gave them back their nuke
• 26:07
  program, right? Like Iran was in that.
• 26:11
  We had a nuclear deal with Iran and it was working.
• 26:13
  They weren't doing anything. Trump pulled out of it.
• 26:16
  And then they started to they started to enrich some uranium.
• 26:20
  They weren't even a threat at this point.
• 26:21
  That's what the White House says.
• 26:22
  That's what our defense says. But you know, whatever.
• 26:25
  So like everything is blamed on Trump.
• 26:27
  If they're like, oh, Iran started to enrich uranium, whose
• 26:29
  fault is that? It's Trump's.
• 26:33
  So it's Trump's fault. That's what he did in his first
• 26:34
  his first term. So OK, and if anything it looks
• 26:39
  like Trump was looking for an excuse to go and attack Iran
• 26:41
  once people expose him for being a pedophile and a rapist.
• 26:44
  No, I go, 'cause the new programs buried under we are at.
• 26:48
  Peace and we actually had nuclear containment.
• 26:50
  Now does he like you like to, I mean, look, I I understand
• 26:52
  selective memory about history, but we had a JCPOA that was well
• 26:56
  negotiated that actually had nuclear non proliferation far
• 26:59
  more securely than what we have right now after having gone to
• 27:02
  war. Look at that.
• 27:02
  He all righted it. He just got, he just got fucking
• 27:04
  decimated by this guy. Also, I just owned this guy.
• 27:07
  He's like, all right, all right. For the better part of 6.
• 27:09
  Months. Yeah.
• 27:09
  I like the fact that the nuke programs buried under a mountain
• 27:12
  of rubble, they can't even get access to it.
• 27:14
  But that's me. OK, well they didn't have a nuke
• 27:16
  program under Obama because of the I guess JCPOA you call it.
• 27:23
  So I think we'll figure it out, the thing you said.
• 27:26
  About let's just stop there so Jesse Jesse wait, wait, wait.
• 27:29
  I understand you're not good at math.
• 27:30
  I I get that. I'll give.
• 27:31
  You that but he definitely isn't good at math.
• 27:33
  But you want to know what is incredible math?
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  and Dan. I'm also selling stickers all in
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  the description. I mean, Oh yeah, there's a small
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  gut too if you want access to the discord.
• 28:03
  But you also get what the medium got, $2.00 a month is not bad.
• 28:06
  OK so yeah man, triple titty dip.
• 28:10
  Incredible. What a what a fucking thumbnail.
• 28:13
  Anyway, let's get back to Jesse Waters, who thinks that $20.00
• 28:15
  an hour is $100,000 a year. But science, you understand that
• 28:21
  like nuclear, nuclear material doesn't just go away 'cause you
• 28:25
  buried it under a mountain of rubble.
• 28:26
  You, you understand they could still go back and bury it out,
• 28:28
  right? Yeah.
• 28:29
  We're watching it from Space Force.
• 28:31
  Well, from Space Force, holy fuck.
• 28:33
  But Space Ghost? And anybody could go secure.
• 28:37
  It then we are right we were back then.
• 28:38
  OK, let's move on. Let's move on, you guys, let's
• 28:46
  move on. You might subscribe to just
• 28:47
  watch a drink video. Listen, man, here's here's the
• 28:50
  reality. I'm just going to give you, I'll
• 28:51
  be, I'll be keeping a buck with you guys because you guys might
• 28:54
  wonder like, Hey, why don't you just, I appreciate it if you
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  subscribe because I'm having a daughter.
• 29:04
  You said getting rid of Sharia law was white supremacy.
• 29:09
  Let's roll the tape. Go.
• 29:10
  I don't have to tell you that the same exact forces.
• 29:14
  That he looks kind of fat here. Well, sorry, I mean, I'm the one
• 29:16
  saying that. What kind of asshole am I?
• 29:18
  Drove native peoples from their land 2 centuries ago, destroyed
• 29:24
  Black Wall Street a century ago, bombed a building decades ago,
• 29:29
  and tried to ban Sharia law not a decade ago.
• 29:34
  That those forces are alive and well today.
• 29:38
  So getting rid of Sharia law's white supremacy?
• 29:41
  Can you explain that one? So here's here's my
• 29:44
  interpretation and I'll watch what he has to say after.
• 29:46
  But here's my interpretation of that.
• 29:48
  Is that like the constant Sharia law panic in America is white
• 29:53
  supremacist because it's not happening.
• 29:55
  Like they'll say Mamdani is trying to bring here Sharia law.
• 29:58
  Meanwhile his wife is like doesn't wear the hat.
• 30:03
  You know, you're, I think you're forced to wear the hat under
• 30:04
  Sharia law. So you have like a bunch of
• 30:07
  people like Trump who are trying to implement their own Sharia
• 30:09
  law. They want to roll back rights
• 30:10
  for women, children. Trump's a rapist.
• 30:12
  So that obviously has a very negative impact on on how people
• 30:15
  look at rape, women, children, gay people, trans people,
• 30:18
  workers. I mean, he's trying to destroy
• 30:20
  the entire world and basically under the guise of being some
• 30:23
  kind of Messiah Christian. I mean, he made an AI picture of
• 30:26
  him healing Jeffrey Epstein. This is real.
• 30:29
  You could look it up. OK, and those people who are
• 30:34
  trying to implement their own version of, you know, some kind
• 30:37
  of an oppressive, really religious law are complaining
• 30:42
  about another oppressive religious law.
• 30:47
  So this idea of like, constantly for, oh, a Muslim person is
• 30:50
  doing Sharia law. That's like the white
• 30:53
  supremacist thing. And we know Trump's a racist.
• 30:54
  He ran on by Obama not being a president.
• 30:57
  Excuse me? He ran on Obama not being
• 31:00
  American 'cause he's black. He said that all illegal
• 31:02
  immigrants are coming here to rape you and eat your pets.
• 31:06
  So, like, he's a racist piece of shit.
• 31:08
  I don't understand. So like, yeah, what do you want
• 31:10
  me to tell you? That's what I'm pretty sure he's
• 31:12
  referring to. OK, what do you What?
• 31:17
  What? What?
• 31:21
  Do you know, do you know what Canon law is, Jesse?
• 31:23
  I assume you're Christian, right?
• 31:24
  Yeah, tell me. All right, so Canon law is the
• 31:28
  name for Christian law. I don't begrudge you your right
• 31:31
  to practice your faith as you choose.
• 31:33
  I don't know why the idea that I could practice my faith as I
• 31:37
  choose is a problem. Nobody is trying to push Sharia
• 31:40
  law on anyone else, just like I hope nobody is trying to push
• 31:43
  Canon law on anybody. Else because we well, that seems
• 31:45
  to be happening. Living in America where you
• 31:47
  should have the freedom of your religion.
• 31:49
  So the idea that you have somebody like Tommy Tuberville,
• 31:52
  right, you know, barely was good at coaching football is that
• 31:55
  you're trying to ban Sharia law when there's less than 1% of the
• 31:59
  Muslim community in America, as if somehow Muslims are out here
• 32:02
  trying to push Sharia law. That seems to me to be
• 32:04
  deliberately targeting the Muslim community because they're
• 32:06
  different. And I'm just saying that like,
• 32:08
  I, I don't, I, I have no issue with people practicing their
• 32:10
  faith. In fact, I would never want
• 32:12
  somebody to push their faith on me and I would never want to
• 32:15
  push my faith on somebody else. Because no one wants you to get
• 32:18
  rid of your religion. So the.
• 32:21
  Yes, you do, Jesse. That's what you guys always want
• 32:24
  to do. This is what we're talking
• 32:26
  about. How many different people,
• 32:28
  prominent voices are talking about banning Muslims from the
• 32:31
  United States or trying to stop them from coming here.
• 32:33
  I was talking about how there's this scary Middle Eastern
• 32:35
  religion coming here. It's called Christianity.
• 32:37
  That's a Middle Eastern religion.
• 32:40
  Shut the fuck up. But also to a greater point.
• 32:42
  What I find so interesting is this constant like this is like
• 32:46
  the new crybaby bullshit bitch fit since the Biden 1 doesn't
• 32:49
  work from the Trump administration of like being
• 32:51
  afraid of Muslim people. And it's actually it's it's like
• 32:53
  a double sided sword because I think that first successful like
• 32:57
  well educated Muslim people like El Sayyad and Mamdani.
• 33:02
  They benefit from like this type of like anti Muslim sentiment in
• 33:06
  in some respect because they're very well spoken and they're
• 33:10
  getting highlighted because of all this like anti Muslim
• 33:13
  sentiment, right. So it's like now El Syed like
• 33:17
  he's just trying to run for in Michigan, but like he's national
• 33:21
  news, Mahdani national news. They seem to be doing a good
• 33:25
  job, especially Mahdani. They give this guy shit for
• 33:28
  what? Making it like New York safer.
• 33:32
  Interesting. And that's what it is.
• 33:34
  They get like this free publicity, but on the other
• 33:36
  side, you know, people who are Muslim who didn't have access to
• 33:39
  to a good education, maybe just came here.
• 33:42
  They're getting like shit on, especially in conservative
• 33:44
  states, like massively, you know, So it is very interesting.
• 33:48
  I do think that this obsession from these weird religious
• 33:50
  Christian freaks that want to like ban Islam, even though in
• 33:53
  my opinion, a lot of religious sentiment is bad overall,
• 33:56
  especially extremism sentiment, which is definitely what Maba
• 33:59
  centralizes around. You see all these people like
• 34:02
  put a target on their backs. But like at the end of the day,
• 34:05
  you're really just helping Muslim people have good
• 34:07
  representation because it's causing all like the successful
• 34:10
  or the well educated ones to be able to like have a platform to
• 34:14
  be like, hey, you're wrong about us and destroy the people who
• 34:17
  are complaining like Jesse Waters who thinks that $20.00 an
• 34:19
  hour is $100,000 a year. That's something to think about.
• 34:22
  You guys are owning yourselves. No one wants.
• 34:25
  That so but when people start when people pre emptively go out
• 34:29
  there and start preemptively passing laws to ban something
• 34:33
  that's not happening, what you're trying to do is target a
• 34:36
  very small community because they're different and this this
• 34:39
  operates I mean, look I'm just going to say there's statistical
• 34:42
  evidence that the the. Fact that he said maybe is crazy
• 34:45
  The law in. Michigan is kind of.
• 34:46
  Scary simply. People don't function off my
• 34:49
  fat. Religions, the Christianity says
• 34:53
  that slavery is OK. So I don't really know what
• 34:55
  we're what's the virtues, what are we virtue signalling for?
• 34:58
  And realistically speaking, like the Christian religion is being
• 35:01
  used to justify slavery. There's slavery.
• 35:04
  I believe it's Arizona where inmates get paid slave wages so
• 35:09
  that they can work for Taylor Farms.
• 35:11
  You know, that farms that that had all that parasite outbreak
• 35:14
  that was announced, they were being shitty.
• 35:16
  But then all of a sudden they give a big donation to Trump and
• 35:18
  all of a sudden the FDA said, oh, sorry, sorry, just kidding.
• 35:21
  It was actually a mistake on our part.
• 35:24
  They use slave labor from people that are in prison.
• 35:27
  They pay the prison system more money per person than they do
• 35:30
  the actual people. Now you could say, well, they're
• 35:32
  just prisoners, who cares? I do.
• 35:34
  That's a job for an American worker to get paid.
• 35:37
  Well, instead you create a pipeline that incentivizes over
• 35:41
  punishing people so that you have more slave labor to operate
• 35:44
  with. Interesting.
• 35:45
  It's so interesting. How did how does that happen?
• 35:48
  Well, this justified slavery obviously must have to do with
• 35:52
  Christianity justifying slavery. I mean, if this is a Christian
• 35:55
  nation and Christianity justifies slavery in certain
• 35:58
  circumstances, what other excuses is it that we're
• 36:01
  justifying slavery? Repackaging it in a different
• 36:04
  way so that we can sell Doo Doo lettuce to pregnant women so
• 36:06
  that they lose their babies, right?
• 36:10
  Something to keep in mind, but people don't want to see it like
• 36:12
  that. You know, it's like nobody's
• 36:16
  trying to go on women. It's like, I just think you want
• 36:18
  to say the word. Isn't like every other day Jesse
• 36:22
  Waters talking about how women should be like banned from the
• 36:24
  military or something? What look Jesse?
• 36:27
  Jesse, people don't like to say. To Michigan.
• 36:29
  I'm just saying I don't think that's a good position, people.
• 36:32
  Probably don't like that in Michigan of being oppressive to
• 36:34
  women 'cause it's a more Democratic state.
• 36:36
  But like Republican states love religion and they love using it
• 36:40
  to say that like women shouldn't be able to vote or work.
• 36:42
  What are you talking about? Harry, nobody's pushing it.
• 36:44
  No, no. But Jesse, Jesse, nobody's
• 36:46
  pushing it. You know what the issue is in,
• 36:47
  in in Michigan, what the issue that people are worried about is
• 36:50
  not that somehow somebody's going to come and push Sharia
• 36:52
  law on them. The issue in Michigan is people
• 36:53
  are worried about how they're going to afford their gas.
• 36:55
  The issue imaging is how am I going to see a doctor when I get
• 36:57
  sick? How am I going to keep my job
• 36:59
  True? You're out here.
• 36:59
  You honestly. I agree with the game.
• 37:03
  But you use these words that sound really foreign I.
• 37:05
  Agree. To avoid actually having to talk
• 37:07
  about the issues that everyday people like to.
• 37:09
  Jesse's getting washed out. He's he's smiling.
• 37:11
  He's like, I agree with you. He keeps conceding.
• 37:13
  I'm actually Jacque talk. About now, look, Mike Rogers is
• 37:15
  the guy I'm running against for USN, and I know that you had him
• 37:17
  on your show. Maybe he answers questions.
• 37:19
  I hope he does. I've actually never used.
• 37:21
  Max only, but look, you haven't so so he, he's ducking your show
• 37:24
  too 'cause he's ducking. Look, can we all agree like I
• 37:26
  have? Just give it a moment.
• 37:28
  Have a debate? Why Can we all agree that Mike
• 37:30
  Rogers is a beta? Can we all agree with that?
• 37:32
  OK, this is fucking stupid. I haven't even.
• 37:34
  Dude won't even come on your show 'cause he's afraid of
• 37:36
  getting grilled. So and we'll have him on that
• 37:39
  guy and I'm sure. It'll be great, but have Noel,
• 37:41
  Jesse let me just can I back up? He's trying to talk about my can
• 37:45
  I back up? I just want to finish my point.
• 37:46
  I'll finish that. I'll be quick, OK, 'cause Mike
• 37:48
  Rogers isn't here to defend him, he thinks.
• 37:50
  He's running against Hassan Piker.
• 37:52
  Sees Mike Rogers obsessing about Hassan Piker.
• 37:55
  Well, maybe then he'll actually come on your show.
• 37:57
  Maybe I'm doing you a favor then.
• 37:59
  But the guy's a beta, doesn't like to answer questions, and he
• 38:01
  dodges every debate. I don't think I was going to
• 38:03
  dodge you too you. Need Mike Rogers on the show,
• 38:05
  but thanks, Sir. Thanks for booking it.
• 38:07
  You know I agree, Gas. Prices are too benefit.
• 38:09
  Gas prices are too high. Look at that.
• 38:11
  He's getting, he's getting forced to move on.
• 38:13
  Abdul pipe down in one second. Gas prices are too high.
• 38:16
  Green New Deal's not going to help that.
• 38:20
  Be the No war in Iran would help though.
• 38:22
  You said that we get to keep our doctor.
• 38:25
  I've been told that before. We were lied to so.
• 38:29
  How are we talking about Obamacare?
• 38:30
  Let's move on. OK, listen here.
• 38:38
  Here's the reality. Is the reason that you can't I I
• 38:39
  don't know what you're talking about.
• 38:41
  If we had, we should have some kind of Medicare for all.
• 38:43
  I don't know what else to tell you.
• 38:44
  Some people might have to change their doctors if their doctors
• 38:47
  don't want to work with Medicare.
• 38:49
  That's the doctor's fault. Doctors are overpaid in a lot of
• 38:53
  instances. Now it cost a lot to become a
• 38:54
  doctor, which gets into the next conversation about like, we need
• 38:58
  to figure out how to lower the cost of schooling.
• 39:00
  The best way to do that is to deny subsidies to schools that
• 39:04
  have drastically massive administration costs that do
• 39:06
  nothing for the teacher experience or the student
• 39:09
  experience. They just exist to recruit,
• 39:10
  recruit, recruit and inflate wages as much as possible and
• 39:13
  have staff that are unnecessary. And we could do that.
• 39:15
  We could say, hey, we're not going to give you government
• 39:18
  money if you have you charge too much all of a sudden, I guess we
• 39:20
  have to reduce our cost for our relevant bullshit.
• 39:23
  But that's a whole other conversation.
• 39:24
  And that's a structural issue. But you start by saying, let's
• 39:26
  get health care under control. Let's make it, let's do some
• 39:28
  kind of like public option for people who can't afford it that
• 39:31
  anybody can opt into based on their salary.
• 39:33
  And then let's start tackling the the the over inflated cost
• 39:36
  of schooling. And like, that's how you do
• 39:39
  these things. Let's start making schooling
• 39:41
  cheaper. Let's start making houses
• 39:42
  cheaper. Let's stop letting billionaires
• 39:44
  give money to lobbyists who give money to politicians to make it
• 39:48
  harder for you to build a house because they want their property
• 39:50
  values to remain high because the more houses in that area,
• 39:53
  the lower your property values are.
• 39:55
  Let's do that. It's an entire structural issue.
• 39:57
  You have to start somewhere. So would healthcare be expensive
• 40:00
  right off the bat when we implement it?
• 40:01
  Absolutely. But if we started doing things
• 40:02
  that chip away at the cost, like housing chips away at people's
• 40:06
  costs in general. Specifically schooling that
• 40:10
  ships away it costs let's get gas prices down by stop doing
• 40:14
  ridiculous wars that'll reduce costs.
• 40:18
  Let's allow let's invest into solar let's people let let that
• 40:21
  let people have their own solar on their houses instead of
• 40:24
  forcing people to give money to to electricity companies.
• 40:27
  Just just different things that you can structurally change so.
• 40:31
  You said here I want to move on 'cause we do have to, we do
• 40:33
  have. To hit them.
• 40:33
  No, no, no. Let me just finish the point,
• 40:35
  please. You told me.
• 40:35
  You told me you. You told me you want to say
• 40:37
  something, and I want to just finish my point, OK?
• 40:40
  If the only answer that Mike Rogers and Donald Trump and JD
• 40:43
  Vance have to this economy is to point to me and say there are
• 40:47
  scary words associated with him, I'm just going to tell you those
• 40:51
  scary words are not raising gas prices or keeping you from
• 40:53
  seeing your doctor. I'm interested in getting money
• 40:56
  out of politics, putting money in your pocket, passing Medicare
• 40:58
  for all, and I think that actually will solve.
• 41:00
  Problems. And I'm not scared of you,
• 41:02
  Abdul. I just think.
• 41:03
  That's his response, because he's got nothing else.
• 41:05
  Guidance. Running against my faith is
• 41:07
  going to fix problems. Go ahead.
• 41:09
  No, I just played what you said and we talked about it, so we're
• 41:12
  all good. You also said this.
• 41:15
  You want. To how much did else I had have
• 41:16
  to pay to get on this show? He's fucking owning them.
• 41:18
  Place the right to bear arms with the right to healthcare.
• 41:24
  You don't want to replace the Second Amendment, do you?
• 41:29
  Well, look, man, I think more people are more worried about
• 41:32
  whether or not they can see a doctor than whether or not they
• 41:33
  can have a gun. I'm just going to put that.
• 41:35
  Out there, I mean, you're dodging the question.
• 41:37
  Do you want to replace the 2nd Amendment?
• 41:39
  I think that we should have the Second Amendment, but there
• 41:41
  needs to be more safety metrics because you shouldn't be able to
• 41:43
  own whatever type of gun you want.
• 41:46
  Guns are very modernized so but OK.
• 41:50
  I'm just saying that more people are more concerned about seeing
• 41:53
  a doctor. If we had a right to healthcare
• 41:54
  in this country, they probably wouldn't, and I think that'd be
• 41:57
  a pretty good thing, don't you? I think you dodged the question
• 41:59
  and that's a pretty big one in Michigan, but I'll take it as
• 42:03
  what you said. It's interesting, 'cause he had
• 42:05
  things to say, he had things to pull up, except for this time.
• 42:08
  So like I'm I'm questioning like what did he even say about the
• 42:11
  right to bear arms? You said Colin Kaepernick.
• 42:14
  I'm I'm perfectly fine with people.
• 42:16
  Let me just finish the answer, your point.
• 42:17
  You said dodge a question. I'm perfectly OK with people,
• 42:20
  people having their hunting rifles.
• 42:21
  It's an important pastime. I've got family that goes
• 42:23
  hunting every single year. But don't you think we should
• 42:26
  have a right to healthcare? Don't you think that'd be a good
• 42:28
  thing in America? Can we just, can we just say
• 42:29
  that? 75% of the country likes the
• 42:32
  healthcare coverage they have. What I feel like the the
• 42:37
  messaging must be like the the messaging is weird.
• 42:40
  I guarantee you that the way that they ask the question is
• 42:42
  weird. And what's funny is like all the
• 42:43
  data that I could find, it shows that most of the people who are
• 42:46
  saying this are older, right? So they're like over the age of
• 42:49
  45. These people are more satisfied
• 42:51
  with their healthcare, probably because they have healthcare
• 42:53
  plans from their jobs, usually union, that are locked in.
• 42:56
  Like I remember working for a union and my healthcare was
• 42:59
  cheaper than people who just started because I was union
• 43:01
  locked in. But then also these older people
• 43:03
  are on Medicare and Medicaid. Of course they're going to be
• 43:05
  happy with their system because that's what they have.
• 43:07
  They have something that's better than general insurance,
• 43:09
  but like upwards of 80% of Americans express support for
• 43:12
  some kind of like government healthcare option.
• 43:14
  So how does that contend with 70% of people saying that
• 43:17
  they're fucking satisfied with their Healthcare is fucking
• 43:19
  bullshit. Like if you ask me, like my
• 43:21
  Healthcare is OK, but like, what does satisfied mean?
• 43:24
  Like I am to a degree satisfied with it.
• 43:27
  Seems like the coverage is decent, but it's overpriced.
• 43:29
  It's kind of ridiculous, right? So like, what does satisfied
• 43:32
  mean? Like I would give my healthcare
• 43:33
  like a 7 out of 10 maybe. Who the fuck are they polling
• 43:39
  for this? I don't even.
• 43:40
  This is ridiculous to me. I don't want to screw that up.
• 43:43
  No, 75% of the country wants wants guaranteed health care
• 43:46
  through Medicare for All. So maybe you have your.
• 43:48
  Facts, I guess. Yeah, we'll find out.
• 43:49
  Alternative facts over here. We'll find out.
• 43:51
  I'll give you that in. We'll find out in November.
• 43:53
  But that's a Gallup poll. You might not believe it, but
• 43:56
  I'm just I'm telling you what it is.
• 43:57
  Yes, we will. You said Colin Kaepernick was a
• 44:00
  good guy and. What's wrong with Colin
• 44:02
  Kaepernick 'cause he was like kind of annoying and preachy.
• 44:05
  You said the NFL was racist. What did you mean by that?
• 44:09
  I don't care. Look, I think for Colin, Kaepern
• 44:14
  is sick. Yeah, I think he should have had
• 44:15
  several more years in the NFL. Now.
• 44:17
  I think it's a pretty damn good quarterback.
• 44:19
  I think unfortunately he lost a lot of time.
• 44:20
  But the bigger question right now when it comes to football,
• 44:23
  look, I know you guys like to think I don't like football, but
• 44:25
  I'm happy to line up against anybody who thinks.
• 44:27
  That the old pigskin. That I don't like football.
• 44:29
  And I'll just tell you the bigger issue that we have for
• 44:31
  football right now is I looked at ticket prices to try and go
• 44:34
  and see a game with my family. It's astronomical through the
• 44:38
  roof now. I think football used to be the
• 44:40
  kind of thing that you could enjoy with people.
• 44:42
  Yeah, don't all the stadiums get like government subsidies?
• 44:44
  Why the fuck is it so expensive? It's another dodge, I mean.
• 44:48
  I want to talk about access to football.
• 44:51
  I I asked you if you thought the NFL was racist because you said
• 44:54
  the NFL was racist, and now you're talking about ticket
• 44:57
  prices. Nah, I'm just telling you one of
• 44:59
  these is too expensive. Who?
• 45:00
  Fuck cares. Nobody gives a fuck about
• 45:01
  football. Next, next.
• 45:04
  Nobody cares about this. This is why it's at the end of
• 45:05
  the segment. He's asking it towards the end.
• 45:07
  Nobody cares about this. Yeah, NFL is too expensive.
• 45:09
  You don't agree? All right, so we don't think
• 45:10
  it's racist anymore, I get. It yeah, I don't think that the
• 45:13
  NFL that buys black people's races move on.
• 45:15
  Most people, I'm glad. I don't think that the NFL that
• 45:17
  buys black people into contracts and then gives them TB eyes
• 45:20
  because they don't give them the proper equipment.
• 45:21
  That would be more shock absorbing on their head and they
• 45:23
  invest nothing into that. I do not think that those people
• 45:25
  are racist. Obviously those people that
• 45:26
  primarily hire black people to get smashed in the fucking
• 45:29
  skull, they obviously love black people, so let's move on.
• 45:31
  Glad you don't think the NF LS racism.
• 45:33
  Most people can't afford that. Bigger issue with the NFL.
• 45:35
  You won't talk about the NFL. The bigger issue with the NFL is
• 45:37
  too many people can't afford it. I get you probably can't, and I
• 45:40
  know that you're in New York so you have like 2 teams that play
• 45:42
  in the same place so you get 2 options.
• 45:44
  But I'm just saying that here in Michigan we got one team and
• 45:46
  most people can't afford to watch them in the stadium.
• 45:49
  And I'd like to make it more affordable.
• 45:51
  So you dodged. You dodged again.
• 45:53
  Sex changes for minors. There's no minors getting sex
• 45:57
  changes. Do you support that?
• 46:01
  Look, you know, I remember having great conversations with
• 46:05
  my conservative friends about right to try legislation.
• 46:08
  Yeah. Well what the fuck is a sex
• 46:10
  change for a minor? There are no minors getting any
• 46:13
  type of sex change surgeries. Who gives a fuck?
• 46:17
  Idea that the government shouldn't tell you what kind of
• 46:19
  healthcare you should have. I just think the government
• 46:21
  shouldn't tell you what kind of healthcare you should have and
• 46:23
  if you're a minor. You want to try on kids?
• 46:26
  Now if you disagree with that. Well, the data points to like
• 46:29
  whatever gender affirming care being more effective than not
• 46:33
  having it so. If you disagree with that, if
• 46:36
  you disagree that healthcare decisions need to be made by a
• 46:38
  doctor and their parents and a patient, then I just think we
• 46:42
  agree to disagree. But you know you want to put
• 46:44
  government inside. So, Abdul, you're a doctor?
• 46:47
  Selectively, I am. So you think it's OK for a
• 46:52
  parent? To slash his kids going off.
• 46:55
  I mean, I don't have my foreskin because a certain religion
• 46:58
  thinks I shouldn't have it, so yeah.
• 47:04
  You think that's OK? I mean, do you?
• 47:06
  So do you really want to have this conversation?
• 47:08
  Are you circumcised? Yeah.
• 47:11
  But I mean that's Jesse. Are you personal question OK.
• 47:15
  This guy's a moron. It's a personal.
• 47:18
  Yeah, it's a personal. That's the point.
• 47:19
  This is between your fucking doctor.
• 47:21
  And also the way that people get circumcised is disgusting.
• 47:23
  They just like, snip it off. There's no, they don't give you
• 47:26
  anesthesia. You're born.
• 47:27
  They fucking snip that bitch off.
• 47:28
  What the fuck? That's insane.
• 47:31
  That's genital mutilation. It's actually insane.
• 47:34
  It's actually insane. The hypocrisy with this moron.
• 47:36
  But also like we literally have normalized gender mutilation
• 47:39
  inside of society. You could teach a kid to peel
• 47:43
  their fucking foreskin back and to clean it.
• 47:45
  It's not that crazy. We have male genital mutilation.
• 47:49
  So what? What you guys virtue signal
• 47:51
  about fucking? Oh well, trans people, there's
• 47:55
  like there's no kids like getting any anything that's just
• 47:57
  not real. It's just not real.
• 47:59
  There are very few amount of young people that are fucking
• 48:02
  trans and getting help, mental health help, which all the data
• 48:05
  by the way, points to that being the best way to help them.
• 48:08
  But if you want kids to stop being fucking trans, I mean,
• 48:10
  listen, I'm sure that there are lots of trans people that are
• 48:13
  born trans, like they're born and they have a feeling and all
• 48:15
  that. But you want to know what?
• 48:17
  When we have a president who rapes girls and little children,
• 48:21
  I wouldn't want to be a girl either.
• 48:24
  So you have all these like trans men.
• 48:27
  Why? Because every fucking day you
• 48:28
  guys voted in a rapist. That makes these people afraid
• 48:31
  to be men. Excuse me?
• 48:33
  They're making them afraid to be women because they don't want to
• 48:35
  be fucking raped. That's what it comes down to,
• 48:39
  OK. And then the reality is, is
• 48:41
  people like Jesse are just upset that they're trans women exist
• 48:44
  because these conservatives inevitably are going to go into
• 48:46
  a bathroom and try to rape a woman and they're going to feel
• 48:49
  like they're not going to be able to overpower the trans one.
• 48:51
  So that's where all the that's where all the fucking trans
• 48:54
  panic comes from. But like enough of this whole
• 48:55
  trans conversation. It's always a distractor.
• 48:57
  We have like horrible health care prices, gases going up,
• 49:00
  We're in wars. Trump's a rapist, he's a
• 49:01
  pedophile, he's destroying the country, Everything's more
• 49:03
  expensive, blah, blah, blah. And every once in awhile we talk
• 49:04
  about like the, the, the 11 millionth of a percent of
• 49:07
  fucking trans people who decide to get some kind of transition
• 49:09
  when they're young. Like, I don't, I don't care.
• 49:12
  Like I the truth that I don't care every, all the data says
• 49:14
  that this is the right way to go.
• 49:15
  And frankly, I just don't give a shit because there are other
• 49:17
  bigger things to worry about then some fucking kids
• 49:20
  potentially becoming trans. I don't give a shit.
• 49:23
  Even if you don't like trans people, why is this the number
• 49:25
  one thing that you fucking care about?
• 49:27
  Why are we so obsessed with it? Like who gives a shit?
• 49:29
  If anything, your your best argument's like, oh man, there's
• 49:32
  these kids getting trans. And if it's not the right thing
• 49:34
  to do, which I think it seems to be, but if it's not, then what
• 49:37
  does that mean? Your kid has a leg up and we're
• 49:38
  in a competitive field. AI is killing jobs.
• 49:40
  Republicans and Trump want to kill jobs with AI.
• 49:42
  Your kid needs a job. They're probably going to.
• 49:44
  Hey, sounds like you're getting rid of the competition, am I
• 49:47
  right? So what's the, what's the
• 49:48
  argument here? What's the, what's the argument?
• 49:54
  Something to think about, guys, come on, You don't really care
• 49:56
  about these trans kids either anyway, You guys, you guys are,
• 49:59
  you guys are fucking horrible people.
• 50:00
  You don't give a shit. You know you give a fuck.
• 50:03
  You guys take people foods out of children's mouths.
• 50:05
  You guys complain because Michelle Obama wanted to give
• 50:07
  fucking vegetables to children. You don't give a shit.
• 50:09
  You don't care about kids. Keep knock it off, not get off
• 50:12
  dude. Doctor, you probably should want
• 50:14
  to move on. You probably should want to move
• 50:15
  on. A circumcision is different than
• 50:17
  castration. Well, nobody's getting castrated
• 50:20
  so that doesn't matter. But circumcision?
• 50:21
  They literally cut the tip of your penis off.
• 50:23
  I think it's a it's a problem. It's a problem that you think
• 50:26
  that you get to decide what happens between a parent, a
• 50:30
  doctor and a patient. And I'm just saying that yes,
• 50:33
  circumcision is surgery on a kids dingaling.
• 50:35
  So if you really want to bring that up, you you can.
• 50:37
  I just think you guys are really selective about how you want to
• 50:39
  talk about these things. Abdul Michigan's not going for
• 50:42
  that. That is sick stuff, boys playing
• 50:46
  in girls. I'm not advocating.
• 50:47
  Oh my God. Being anything, I'm just saying.
• 50:50
  What about that? So the question, so again, like
• 50:52
  Jesse, you have not asked me one time about the issues that
• 50:55
  people actually care about in Michigan.
• 50:57
  You don't want to talk about gas prices, you don't want to talk
• 50:59
  about groceries, you don't want to talk about health care.
• 51:01
  You don't want to talk about the stupid trade war.
• 51:03
  That's about the we. Spent the whole interview
• 51:04
  talking about. That war that's destroying that,
• 51:08
  that that is destroying our own military.
• 51:09
  You don't seem to want to talk about any of those things.
• 51:11
  You want to bring up all this cultural war that you know I'm
• 51:14
  not here. We talked about the war.
• 51:16
  We talked about gas prices in the Green New Deal.
• 51:19
  OK, If you want to do an interview, I'm up every time.
• 51:22
  You can do the interview. You're asking me like you're
• 51:24
  doing the. Greatest hits Jesse, like, I
• 51:25
  mean, this is like you can play this game if you want, but like
• 51:28
  you, you can keep doing the greatest hits if you want.
• 51:29
  You told me we're going to come out for a conversation and when
• 51:31
  we have conversations, I think that it's it's OK to also ask
• 51:34
  questions. I just want to understand what
• 51:35
  you're getting at here. I'm getting U.S.
• 51:37
  Senate whether you think. Men should play.
• 51:39
  In the women US senator in Michigan, it's a big issue.
• 51:41
  I'm interested in getting money. It's not a big issue.
• 51:43
  Listen, you know, it's, it's so it's so unfortunate about this
• 51:45
  conversation about like men and women's sports or trans women,
• 51:47
  which like respectful people will will call will say, because
• 51:52
  like, yes, I think that a trans woman will generally have an
• 51:55
  advantage over a cisgender woman.
• 51:56
  And the reason is because, like, I understand that sports is not
• 51:59
  about just picking up the sport and playing in order to be
• 52:01
  competitive in any sport, like you start young, you go through
• 52:04
  your developmental cycle, right? And so the majority of trans
• 52:07
  people, right, right, would be people who, or trans women
• 52:11
  specifically would go through a male puberty playing the sport
• 52:14
  that they will transition in adulthood to continue to play.
• 52:17
  So like, let's say it's rugby. I don't know who the fuck cares?
• 52:21
  Both play is bowling. No, let's say whatever sport it
• 52:23
  is, football, right? Like when these when, when a
• 52:27
  trans woman is growing up, they're growing up as a boy,
• 52:29
  right? And they're going through
• 52:31
  hormonal changes and you can't reverse all those with
• 52:34
  medication. So they they go through their
• 52:36
  entire puberty developing their bodies.
• 52:38
  Then they go into football, they might transition and it might,
• 52:41
  it's going to be like a valid, like they really are a woman and
• 52:43
  they feel that way. But then they're still going to
• 52:45
  maintain a tremendous amount of advantages, right?
• 52:47
  And so that's really the issue, right?
• 52:49
  It's not like people will be like, well, there's this top
• 52:51
  tier female athlete and there's this person that turned 25 and
• 52:54
  decided they've started, they wanted to start being doing
• 52:56
  football. And look, the top tier female
• 52:57
  athlete that spent their entire developmental cycle playing this
• 52:59
  sport. Look, they're still better.
• 53:01
  Of course. The problem is, though, is that
• 53:03
  we can't have this conversation because like Republicans are
• 53:04
  fucking obsessed with trans cock.
• 53:06
  That is what it comes down to. Because like, that's reasonable.
• 53:09
  But then they'll go to trans people.
• 53:10
  Every time it comes up that Trump is in the Epstein files,
• 53:12
  they they talk about trans people, the economy is doing
• 53:14
  bad. They bring up trans people.
• 53:15
  It doesn't really matter what's going on.
• 53:16
  They bring up trans people and they'll be like, oh, trans
• 53:18
  people might go in a girls bathroom and rape somebody.
• 53:20
  Trump is a rapist and he goes into locker rooms, girls locker
• 53:24
  rooms and just like watches them.
• 53:27
  But you guys voted in the rapist and you're complaining that
• 53:29
  trans people are rapist. It's it doesn't make any sense.
• 53:31
  It's a constant distraction. That's all it is.
• 53:34
  And they'll say things like, well, it's not logical.
• 53:35
  It's not logical. You believe in a fucking, you
• 53:37
  believe in a magical apple curse and a fucking Jewish wizard that
• 53:40
  does party tricks that was born to a virgin.
• 53:42
  Shut the fuck up. You don't care about facts or
• 53:44
  logic. OK?
• 53:45
  You have a comfortable feeling, OK, you guys say nothing about
• 53:48
  people with religious psychosis that give their entire income to
• 53:50
  mega churches that are worth millions and billions of
• 53:52
  dollars. That's a mental health issue.
• 53:54
  You have religious psychosis, nothing about that.
• 53:57
  But somebody who grows up and feels like they were born in the
• 54:00
  wrong body and gets constantly berated and like it gets told
• 54:03
  that if they like girl stuff that they must be a girl by
• 54:05
  Republicans. And then those people go, OK, I
• 54:07
  guess I'm a girl now. They go, no, you can't do that.
• 54:08
  We have to put you through some kind of like horrible conversion
• 54:11
  therapy. That's their issue.
• 54:14
  It's just fucking crazy. It's it's, it's ridiculous, it's
• 54:19
  dumb. So it's just a holy fuck, dude.
• 54:21
  I mean, these guys don't care. It's that virtue signal
• 54:23
  constantly. It's constantly a trans virtue
• 54:24
  signal. Out of politics, putting money
• 54:26
  in your pocket and passing Medicare for all you're
• 54:29
  filibustering care about what sports kids play you're.
• 54:32
  Filibuster. It's a big issue.
• 54:34
  Because like I, I, I it's. Not a big issue, nobody cares
• 54:36
  you. Guys were lost on that issue
• 54:38
  last time. Deserved to hear about.
• 54:41
  All right, so you want to answer that question.
• 54:42
  What issue? You won't answer the question.
• 54:45
  What issue? Go ahead, Jesse.
• 54:46
  What issue? Should men play women's sports?
• 54:49
  You have daughters, right? I think that, look, I, I, I
• 54:54
  played sports my whole life. Sports were an important part of
• 54:56
  my life. I'm grateful for the opportunity
• 54:58
  to play sports. And at the end of the day, the
• 55:00
  decision of who gets to play what sports ought to be decided
• 55:02
  by the people who govern sports. I'm running for U.S.
• 55:04
  Senate, Jesse. It's insane.
• 55:06
  I'm out here trying to take on like the the healthcare crisis
• 55:08
  and big Pharma, and you're asking me about who gets to play
• 55:11
  what sports. It's silly.
• 55:13
  It's kind of a big thing. If you've been following the
• 55:15
  news recently, Abdul, let me ask.
• 55:17
  Yeah, if you've been following Fox News, who obsesses about
• 55:19
  trans cock, it will be You will think it's a big thing to.
• 55:22
  You about the politics. We'll get to your race.
• 55:24
  Let's do your race right now. Please be serious like I'm here
• 55:27
  with you. I want to talk, have a
• 55:28
  conversation about issues that matter.
• 55:30
  Let's do it. Let's talk about the things that
• 55:31
  people are actually talking about, OK?
• 55:34
  I am, but let's keep going. Black people in Michigan.
• 55:38
  You guys are talking about that, but like the most of the
• 55:40
  country's not. OK, go ahead.
• 55:41
  All right, Black people in Michigan voted for this white
• 55:45
  lady you ran against by like 8 points over you.
• 55:49
  What happened there? This is a deeply unserious
• 55:53
  question. Hey, black people voted for this
• 55:56
  white lady deeply on serious question.
• 55:58
  How do you answer such a deeply on serious question?
• 56:03
  Well, Jesse, I mean, you said it yourself, right?
• 56:04
  You got to give credit to Abdul. He ran against the machine.
• 56:07
  I got outspent 11 to one. That 11 to 1 is going to do
• 56:10
  something at the end of the day. Now my job is to go and earn
• 56:13
  every vote. And we've been having some great
• 56:15
  conversations in the community. We'll continue to do that.
• 56:17
  And all this all is happening is this is helping him get a vote.
• 56:20
  And I have a lot to talk about when it comes to my work taking
• 56:22
  care of communities. Rebuilt Detroit's health
• 56:25
  department, LED Wayne County's Department of Health, Human and
• 56:27
  Veteran Services, Got to work alongside so many folks in the
• 56:31
  community to give kids glasses, take on corporate polluters,
• 56:34
  eliminate medical debt. I'm looking forward to
• 56:35
  continuing to have those. Conversations regular, Mr.
• 56:37
  Beast. Tomorrow I feel really good
• 56:39
  about being able to bring communities together and beat
• 56:42
  Mike Rogers, who you and I both agree is a beta and won't come
• 56:45
  on your show and won't debate me in November.
• 56:48
  Didn't agree to that, but that's funny.
• 56:50
  Reparations. Do you support that?
• 56:53
  Again, a deeply unserious question.
• 56:55
  OK. But you laughed at it because
• 56:58
  because you didn't say you didn't agree.
• 56:59
  Like Jesse, you're very good at telling me when you don't agree
• 57:01
  with me. But you actually laughed at that
• 57:02
  joke because you actually agree. Sorry.
• 57:05
  Reparation. What does Mike Rogers look like
• 57:07
  where he's so beta? Mike Rogers.
• 57:13
  Oh yeah, this guy, this guy looks like he looks like he just
• 57:15
  looks like he just smells farts. This guy definitely sniffs on
• 57:18
  farts. Yeah, he does look like a beta.
• 57:20
  True. Do you support that?
• 57:25
  I think we need to have an honest conversation about the
• 57:28
  incredible debt that was put upon Black folks as a function
• 57:31
  of slavery that we have yet to pay.
• 57:33
  And I just think that's fair. Like if if if people are
• 57:36
  enslaved and forced into servitude and then we don't
• 57:40
  actually have a conversation about all that was owed that our
• 57:44
  own country agreed was owed. I just think that it's past time
• 57:47
  to have that conversation. That shouldn't be a crazy thing.
• 57:50
  I understand that. Like for folks who really want
• 57:53
  to inflamed culture war. Well, it sounds like he's saying
• 57:55
  that he supports a conversation, but he doesn't support explicit
• 57:57
  reparations, which is fine. Just think it's important for us
• 58:00
  to think about how do we make sure that communities like the
• 58:02
  city of Detroit that have been segregated so that you you have
• 58:06
  disproportionate number of people as a function of
• 58:08
  redlining. Mike Rogers used AI to buy
• 58:11
  himself buff for his campaign. That's crazy.
• 58:13
  Who are forced into certain communities, How do we make sure
• 58:16
  that their schools are made whole?
• 58:17
  I'll just tell you this, in the city of Detroit right now, they
• 58:19
  just had $700 million invested in their schools.
• 58:22
  There's still $1.7 billion behind and a lot of folks want
• 58:26
  to say, oh, well, that's profligacy, etcetera, etcetera.
• 58:28
  No, a lot of that has to do with public policy.
• 58:30
  And if public policy created a level in which Black folks
• 58:33
  disproportionately suffer everything from maternal
• 58:35
  mortality and infant mortality to lack of access to jobs, I
• 58:39
  think it's important. For our SO, you want to have a
• 58:41
  conversation about people whole you want to have a conversation
• 58:44
  about it because we have you on the record as backing it.
• 58:50
  Sorry, so he asked about reparations.
• 58:52
  I'll say I'd give a pretty decent response that doesn't
• 58:55
  quite, like actively support the entire thing, but says, hey, we
• 58:57
  should have a conversation about basically giving poor people
• 59:00
  money. That's what I heard.
• 59:01
  And then Jesse's just like, well, you said it and it's like,
• 59:03
  OK, he got him owned. He fucking owned him.
• 59:05
  But now you just want to have a conversation.
• 59:07
  I I got it. I got it.
• 59:08
  The. That's it.
• 59:09
  That's all he's. Got.
• 59:11
  I couldn't tell you exactly what goes to.
• 59:13
  Schumer, you said you basically wanted his head on a stake when
• 59:17
  you were running in the primary. You still believe that he.
• 59:21
  Probably has to work with the guy so he's probably not going
• 59:23
  to be able to be as inflammatory.
• 59:26
  Well, look, me and the senator have one goal right now.
• 59:29
  It is to win Michigan. So we're looking forward to
• 59:31
  doing that. And given the fact that Mike
• 59:33
  Rogers, who? You.
• 59:34
  Oh, he said. If you're Schumer, I'm
• 59:35
  dangerous. That's head on a stick, OK.
• 59:37
  Agree, as a beta is my opponent it probably.
• 59:39
  Shouldn't be very hard. OK, I respect the fact that you.
• 59:44
  Came on bro. Talk to your guy.
• 59:46
  I. I respect the fact that you came
• 59:48
  on. I don't think you've really
• 59:50
  looked into some of the policies you're pushing.
• 59:53
  You seem a little naive, Abdul. I give you credit for facing the
• 59:57
  music, but some of the stuff's just straight up wacky.
• 1:00:02
  OK damn, it's funny that Jesse Waters came out of here kind of
• 1:00:05
  liking else I had. You know, I don't know if that's
• 1:00:08
  going to fly in Michigan, but we're going to find out.
• 1:00:10
  Wacky. We're going to find out, and
• 1:00:12
  we're going. To find out.
• 1:00:13
  And you know what's wacky? Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  You know what's wacky though? Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  Can I ever tell you? You know, you didn't ask me
• 1:00:17
  about what we got a president of the United States who cares more
• 1:00:19
  about the drapes in a ballroom that shouldn't be built.
• 1:00:22
  Then he cares about the war he just has got us into or that he
• 1:00:25
  cares about the affordability crisis.
• 1:00:27
  That seems to me to be a little bit wacky.
• 1:00:28
  So if we want to have a serious conversation about what
• 1:00:31
  Michiganders are feeling. He can't talk about Trump, dude.
• 1:00:34
  He knows it. He knows it.
• 1:00:36
  On and talk about getting money out of politics.
• 1:00:37
  Put money in your pocket passing Medicare.
• 1:00:39
  OK, we'll do it again. I'll tell you, none of that is
• 1:00:40
  wacky, and that's what Michiganders want.
• 1:00:42
  We'll do it again that. Was a good conversation.
• 1:00:45
  All right. Thank you so much.
• 1:00:46
  Good luck in Michigan. At least I don't dodge you.
• 1:00:48
  No, yeah. Thank you.
• 1:00:50
  Like 25%. Have a good night.
• 1:00:53
  I was actually, I think really good for all Syed, frankly, and
• 1:00:56
  it looks like Jesse actually likes the guy because he just
• 1:00:59
  the way that he acted with them. So that's pretty good.
• 1:01:02
  Like I said, I think that like a lot of Muslim people that are in
• 1:01:05
  like positions already that we're well educated are going to
• 1:01:08
  have an opportunity to like platform themselves because of
• 1:01:10
  the obsession that the conservatives have with them.
• 1:01:13
  Unfortunately, it just harms, you know, less, I'll say it,
• 1:01:19
  less affordable Muslim, what am I trying to say?
• 1:01:23
  Lucky, you know what I mean? Other Muslim people who don't
• 1:01:26
  have the same access to education or, you know, money or
• 1:01:28
  wealth or any of that stuff. So yeah, we'll see what happens
• 1:01:30
  though. I like that guy.
• 1:01:31
  I like Elsayed, I like Mamdani. I seem to be liking Muslim
• 1:01:34
  people a lot more. Dude, uh oh, it's that stuff.
• 1:01:38
  But I want I don't like are Coco melon whites like Jesse Watters
• 1:01:41
  and everyone else that goes on Twitter and eats up the racist
• 1:01:44
  slop and then just shits it out of their own fucking asshole.
• 1:01:47
  So.