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So you want to know, yeah, gets real personal, gets real person
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over there. Facts, yeah, facts, you know, you know,
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we get kind of person over here. You know, it is a podcast
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where we talk about our life and everything, but you know it gets super
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person over there. Correct. Yeah, so but we here. You know,
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it's another episode. We it's now February, my birthday, monk,
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and it's also Black History months. I mean, you know it's my birthday,
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so you know, I forget black history. I mean they go hand
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in hand. I was born and I am Black history. You know what
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I mean. Let's you know, let's keep it real, you know what
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I mean, Let's keep it real. Okay, it's your tagline. I
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Am Black, I Am Black History. The panamic flag waving behind you.
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You know, you're looking off into the distance and then you just see like
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these No, no, the Tuskigie airman fly. Yes, there we go.
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Faces fade in and out, you know, see like, oh,
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my facts, you see like Dray McDuffie. You know, I'm sorry kill
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you got to see kill ma, gotta see kill Mart you know what I
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mean, Like he's a real person. Yeah, that's the best part.
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Yea, Oprah didn't kill Manger. See this is why y'all gotta give me.
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I gotta write my comedy show, Like I want to be like Robbing
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and have my own sketch comedy situation because this ship that be popping up in
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my head on the fly, I'll be fucking dying and I'm like, I
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know this ship is funny. No, No, we do this off the
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fly. Like people are talking about us, talk about Richard Ryder last week,
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and I'm like that was all you know, like my my best friend
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hit me up about that, and someone left the comment on YouTube about that
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and yeah, that was just you know, it was like the whole Ladder
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half of the show but I was just I just I was still like very
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like just shocked. I'm like, I mean, I shouldn't be like Stanley
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in them they they was always on one but on my god, Richard Dick
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writer. Wow. And you know as a kid, I didn't because I
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remember, you know, I knew Richard and Dick were the same thing.
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But I just read Richard Ryder. I'm like, okay, cool, you
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know, Richard Rider. But it was definitely as an adultable house like wow,
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that's how it's been designed. And that's why this ship is so like
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amazing and clever because it's not it's designed for you not to hit. It
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ain't gonna hit. It's like it's like an edible, a real, a
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real sneaky, sneaky edible that like you out you hit that ship and you're
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like, okay, all right, what's that? You know? I don't
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feel nothing? And there it is. That's how it is. So it
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did very well. Yeah, Dick Rider, he usually does very well.
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Anyways, what else? Once again, now this has been for all nurse
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y'all. I'll see y'all later. Like this man being immature, but it's
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I'm very mature. You know. You gotta be matured. You know,
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please only that mature did credits? Ben? What's going on in the world
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today, besides your antics? What's going on in the world today? What
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is going on into the world today? I don't know you there's something about
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this. What did you know? I mean, I know, I know
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she's Did you did you hear about it? Did you hear about it?
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I didn't hear that quote. I didn't see this quote because I've seen I
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saw the other folks. We talk about how she was doing independent because she
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doesn't believe that Hollywood supports black stories, which it doesn't. And yeah,
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so I've seen that quote. Yeah, Well, this quote that we're referring
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to is and it's an excerpt from a wider interview essentially, but it says,
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I've never seen Hollywood this scared and clueless and at the mercy of Wall
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Street, says Ray, and her Time magazine interviewed. Now, she's one
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hundred percent right. And also it's just indicative like foreign nerds, we've been
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in the game for ten years, right, and when I really like sit
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there and think about the stuff we were talking about ten years ago and the
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fact that some of that stuff is still the fucking same, Like when we're
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talking about things in Hollywood, when we're talking about projects and the fight that
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still remains about black people and people of color getting their voices heard, It's
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like, is there any end? And this sentiment was brought to a head
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a few weeks ago when we saw mass shows and particularly shows led by black
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people getting the acts left and fucking right, And it was extremely troublesome because,
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like especially for me, because a lot of people in my time I'm
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our writers and and are in either media space or in Hollywood. And the
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sheer level of distraught and sadness that I literally for twenty four hours straight,
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it was just straight, we can't have shit. And I understood that sentiment.
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It's like, fuck, we can't have shit, Like y'all play around
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with the DEI efforts and diversity equity inclusion. We don't know what DEI stands
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for and all of this, Oh, we're trying to lift y'all people,
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and this and that, this is the executives talking to us as black folks,
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and yeah, we're want to give you all a chance, and then
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you don't give us the same space, You don't give us the same grace.
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You don't give us the same time, you don't give us the same
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effort, and then we're fucking struggling. And with Easterray what she has been
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doing to me, she's been independent, at least on the side, even
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with her deal with HBO. She has built up her own production companies and
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built up her indie record label and some other things that are in the words
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and she spoke about in this article. She spoke about how she is actually
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working on building an actual studio in Cali. So this whole thing was about
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what she was sharing was about building your own and really taking the task and
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just saying it plainly, like how the landscape is in Hollywood right now,
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and how are the is how it's been, but especially right now, especially
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right now. And there's two things I want to say to that. One
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is that Hollywood, I think people really misunderstand Hollywood will do this to white
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men. Hollywood is like evilly ruthless. You know, it'll give white men
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two chances when it will give us zero. But after them two chances,
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it's gonna cut most white men too, unless your daddy is you know somebody,
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or you Martin Scorsese or someone of that age and even that nigga struggle
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to get a movie made these days, Yeah, that they will still get
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those two chances we get zero, and well, that's how it's gonna fucking
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be. And that's like I don't really worry about that because that's how it's
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gonna be. And I think that this is the thing like I've because I
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come from the music industry going into the uh film industry, and I've always
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advocated for this even in the music industry, is do your own. That's
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what I like. I was one of the big people I I actually knew
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about. I was a big Drape fan from pretty early. Really went so
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far gone though, that's when a lot of people got on him, but
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I put him on to like young Guru, where Young Guru got onto him
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and then he got with you know, I knew I was one of the
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people really pushing him. That's when I had my blow piece on stair dot
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com and I was really pushing him. And my prayer was that he would
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not sign a major label deal because I was like, he could be someone
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who could really change the game and show people you don't need that major label
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deal anymore. But of course he did and any people after him, like
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Chance who claimed the don't you know they work with Apple and everybody's bought out,
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even someone like Toby Niggway, who I really love. I feel like
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right now is turning into that cat where it's like, Okay, I'm gonna
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get this money. I'm gonna get this money. Capitalism right now it's damn
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nipping at them heels, fam And I feel you because you got a family
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to feed, niffing, don't there's no nipping happening. Big capitalism is sitting
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at the table. I know, man, I saw the SNL and and
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then me be clear when I say this is not from a hater perspect and
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this is also down to him because what did I say? And maybe I
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said this on the patient. So that's what you gotta do, Like you
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also gotta be economically smart. You do. And but there's a point,
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and that's what I feel like we as black people, and it's how we
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fall for this trick over and over again, and it's historically been shown.
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It's like there ain't never gonna be five niggas. On the Elvis Presley album
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cover, you know, it's the famous quote from the Five Heartbeats right or
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from the from the Temptations movie, you know, and that's like, you
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know, a crossover another but a double cross. They will always use you
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and then they're gonna go on to the nets. Negro like Toby a nigga
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is on the Justin Temperlaid song right now because he's the hot nigga, But
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in three years, Justin temb Blake would have somebody else you know, on
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there, and he ain't going. He ain't reaching back, just like he
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ain't reaching back to Push your teet for a feature right now. But Push
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it was on that first album. You know, that's my thing, but
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Push ain't the hot nigga right now. Toby is, so that's my thing.
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And it's like we always try to like Easa. She's smart, like
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she got the money, but she's taking that money and doing her own thing.
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And I know Toby is doing that type of thing too, So I
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know he is. And that's why I'm not like you say, this ain't
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coming from a hater perspective. It's turning from the perspective where I want black
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people to realize it the only way is to do your own thing there because
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there's just no security at all. Like, that's why y'all see me.
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I've worked in Hollywood, but I don't really dedicate my life to that shit.
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And I will never do anything for a check behind Hollywood because I don't
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want to be a person who's out here writing things that I feel aren't or
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are actively detrimental to black people or just or I don't even I'll be honest,
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I don't even want to write things that are just like entertaining. Like
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I love Power, I watch it every week, but it's not something that
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I'd really want to dedicate my life to writing a show like that because it's
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just entertaining, and then it's you know, it is what it is.
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You know. I want to write things that I feel like at least I
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feel in my heart or creating an impact or moving me. I don't want
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to write because someone's like, well, you got to write this episode this
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week. And that's why I don't actively you know, Chase Hollywood. It'll
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come to me when I feel like, okay, that's fair, yeah,
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and that's why. But I love people like Easter, who are you know,
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making these statements like look y'all, and that's inspiring people below her or
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all the younger people coming up Uneatha are all I mean, young or older
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and whoever, it don't matter really, but it's inspiring people to be like,
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Yo, Okay, maybe I don't need to chase this Hollywood check.
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Maybe I can take my own check and buy a camera. You know,
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one of my favorite my mentors in Hollywood, a black writer who's been in
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the game forever. You know. We had him meeting one day and he
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was like, you want to see how because I asked a question and this
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meeting of black writers, I was like, Yo, how do we like?
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I was say, Yo, what about? Basically I was talking about
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myself, but I was like, what about people who just be out here
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saying shit, you know, and saying whatever, and you know, actually
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trying to say something and not just going for the bullshit like people like East.
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What she said is dangerous. Of course, she said, you can't
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call its clueless. They could be like you just trolling me, clueless bitch,
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right, you know I'm not signing over your next movie, fucking bitch.
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Like I said about being smart about getting that money and then turning that
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money into self revenue generating centers, right, like all the mean things I
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mentioned that she already has going for herself, and the fact that couple with
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that, she's reaching back, she's pulling up her people behind her, she
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positioned everybody else. Because the whole point towards your idea of make your own
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is to build your own. Okay, let's pull up and create and train
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and create these soldiers that will continue the path forward, that will continue the
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legacy and build up the legacy right until we can get to a place where,
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like, our shit is fucking strong and it's something that cannot be ignored,
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and that's still something that's still technically is in the infancy of like there
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have been And it's interesting because throughout the age, I don't want to say
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the ages like it's been a million years, but throughout the decades there have
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been glimpses of what those types of empires look like. Like you think of
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the Waynes, the Wayne's family, when you think of and Tarla Perry,
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Tyler Perry, when you think of and I say Wayn's probably fair because like,
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there was stuff that came out this week that I just learned about.
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Like the whole reason why there's Super Bowl halftime show is because of them.
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I did not fucking know that the power that has understand wasn't that like the
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nineties or maybe even earlier. And for those who didn't see this, because
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I saw it, pop it on tiptok et cetera. So I know basically
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what happened is back in the nineties, Living Color was the greatest show on
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earth. If you don't know about it, go watch old episodes. Living
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Color is just it's up there with Dave Chappelle's show Mad TV SML at its
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best. It is just one of the greatest cats shows of all time.
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And at the time it had nothing but superstar stunners on it. It's like
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Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans, you know, Keenan, Ivory Wayans, David
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Allen Greer, Tommy Jefferson, right, Tommy, Tommy Davison, Tommy Davison,
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not Jefferson, Tommy Davison. Oh man, I'm just watching that nigga.
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He's in I peated the Outlaw Johnny Black, I did Pete that.
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I'll talk about that later. Yeah, he's in that joint. So it
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had all these cats in there, like Jim Carrey. That's where Jim Carrey
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got discovered at is on Living Color. So this show was just in fuego
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every Sunday night. It was just out of control. You had to peep
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at must crazy ratings. So during the Super Bowl that year, when it's
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like the second or third year of Living Color, when it's just out of
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control on fire, they did at halftime special because normally the halftime would just
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be niggas talking, you know, they cut back to the studio everybody talking
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about the game. And I know, I really, as a kid,
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I never understand that. I never understood why the fucking Super Bowl took so
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much longer than every other football game. A lot of the other ship like,
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why the fuck do we need thirty minutes a halftime with these niggas just
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talking like this. You don't need the rest that the players need the rest,
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I know, but they don't get a rest any other week, you
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know. And I'm like, and I mean, this is a big one.
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That's a big one. I know. Bet As a kid, I
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didn't give a shit about football, So I was just I wanted to see
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the show that would come on after the super Bowl, because they always had
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the Dope Show on after Super Bowl. So I'd just be like, come
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on, Ny can get this shit over with so Living Color for the first
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time ever. They did a halftime show network a bit on Fox. This's
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what I read on I don't know what network, probably ABC at the time,
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I think, yeah, and so niggas switched the stations. Everyone million
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niggas, thirty millionaire switched over to watch and Living Color for thirty minutes and
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then switch back. And after that, ABC was like, nigga, please
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hell no. And it's like, and that's like not the only type of
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anecdote that like that. I still don't probably don't know, but that has
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been floating around the internet for some time about and when I go back to
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what I'm saying about, like these glimpses of empire and the influence and the
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power that has the Wayne's family, Tyler Perry obviously nigga, hold on,
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I gotta go back to the Wayne's family. This battle Rapper, it was
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one of the lines of twenty twenty three. This nigga said everything that I
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called this done Mama Wayne's because everything they come up out of it, Oh
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my god God. But he ain't like it's all that woman's children. I
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don't I don't know what predicated all this, but that's upot of time upn
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that was the fucking black that was Prime Time. Oh yeah, people black
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people starring in sometimes, you know, like like it's their show. Understand,
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They're gonna have had a racist frog as their goddamn logo, the w
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frog. Yeah, nigga like they were. That's how black they were.
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They had a racist frog. Like they didn't give a shit. List like
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we got all your niggas on this show. We're gonna have a racist frog.
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Whatever. The point is, Like, I feel like there's been cycles
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or there were cycles, and with the exception of like Tyler Perry, I
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feel like, okay, now we have an Eastern Ray who's trying to build
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that up again. It's just like, are these ebbs and flows and how
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it's always gonna be or when it's gonna be a point where it will We'll
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get to a point where it's like no matter what, like there's always gonna
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be fucking Byron Nowt in there. There's always gonna be fucking Tyler Perry there
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and some other people besides them. Yeah, I mean, sadly for you
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know, until niggas turn out the lights on the small planet, you know,
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I don't know like, damn not you saying so this shit. I
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mean, it's just that's the thing. It's like because niggas fall for the
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tricks every time that a lot of niggas would be like, Yo, I'm
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gonna do it once I get this amount of money, and then you got
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another and then you got another this, and then you got another mortgage and
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then they're like, why don't you just keep doing this bullshit? And you're
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like, yet caught, and they and that's how they work it. Like
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I'm not gonna name names again, but somebody else who worked in Hollywood told
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me this one time. They're like, go watch the movie The Firm if
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you really want to know how to get you in this business, because that's
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the same ship he's like in everything. They've always been like, so you
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know, how's your wife doing? What's up y'all planning to have kids?
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Mm hmmm? Because they want to know, oh you got kids? Oh
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oh shit, you know, gotta put some food in that belly, don't
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you. They want to know your weaknesses and devices and all this other stuff
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because it's always and unfortunately it's just always about how can I control you?
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Right? Yeah, So that's the thing. I feel like I got you
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know, and I like we were talking about this on the Patreon right,
20:45
Like, I'm at a frustrated point with my DJ career because I do a
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lot of weddings and I make a lot of money doing weddings. But it's
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not it doesn't make me, you know, happy creatively. But what it
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does allow me to do is because I make the money during weddings, I
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can take that money. I can pour it into four our nerds, I
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can pour it into my music production. I can pour it into buying cameras
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so I can shoot my own productions. So that's why, like I've that's
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the thing that's I had a hard lesson to learn, and I realized I'd
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rather work outside the box, take my money, do what I want to
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do, then chase down a job in Hollywood. And I feel like a
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lot of people would rather just chase down those jobs in Hollywood. And I
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tell young, right, a young old whoever writers trying to break in the
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game, I always implore them, like, don't sell your soul for that
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check, but so many people will just sell and it's hard. When it's
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hard, either the struggling artist, the struggling creative or like that is your
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and honestly how you feel, because my thing is you also are speaking from
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a place of experience. When you are green and it's been your life's mission
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to get into Highwood and become a writer, that stuff will take you over,
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especially if you have that opportunity. And this is something that I learned
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before ever. This is something that because I read and I pay attention and
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I listen, and I learned before I get into an experience chaos. Want
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a quote that I always lived with. Karis One said this in an interview
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way back in the day when I read. He was like, Yo,
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don't ever make money off of something you love. And He's like, look,
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I love hip hop and rap, so I don't make my main money
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off of this shit. You know, I have investments, I do other
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things. I do speaking tours, I do all this type of shit he
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does other than doing shows and stuff. So that that way, you know
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he doesn't have to you know, he can make the music he wanted to
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make all his life. Tariff One ain't never compromised. He's always made the
22:45
songs he wanted to make. He never done nothing else. Because I saw
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I saw the show last year. You know, like fifty years in hip
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hop, this man been there since the fucking beginning of it. And that
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man was doing a show, you know, during the fifty touring the world.
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You know, he's still living his dreams and in his way. I
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saw this nigga on stage say it. He was like, yo, fifty
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years ago, I said, I was gonna be we will be here forever.
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Do you understand me? It's a famous keros One song, we will
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be here forever. And he was like, I put this shit out there.
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My mind created the world. He said, I'm going to be on
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stages rocking microphones to our motherfucking sixty. He said that shit in rhyme when
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he was like twenty five, ripping the microphone till my motherfucking sixty. You
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know what I mean. And he's still out there doing it. It's like,
23:33
and that's what we talk about on the show. You know, words
23:36
have power. The spells you cast with what you say and put into the
23:40
universe of means steam. So that's why, like I said, I don't
23:42
I won't make I make money off of DJing and things of that nature.
23:48
But I'm not out here playing a lot of bullshit music. I'm not doing
23:52
that type of stuff because I won't do that for a check. Man,
23:55
It's not in my nature, you know what I mean. I'll find other
23:57
ways to make money then to you know, sacrifice my soul for a check.
24:07
And I feel like, yeah, I really wish more people be there.
24:10
It's just not worth it. That's why I always tell people about Hollywood
24:12
shuffle. There's work at the post office is the famous quote from this movie.
24:18
There's always working, Nigga. You don't need this ship like I don't
24:21
give. Your fucking dream is to write, then't right, nigga, don't
24:25
wait until you get into Hollywood to write. Write you know, if that's
24:29
your dream, right every goddamn day and made something happen with it. Don't
24:33
wait for somebody else because when you get there, they're gonna tell you write
24:36
this, and then it's just suck because you're not. No, you're not
24:40
writing what you want to write. God damn, I should pick this.
24:44
You would basketball fantasy basketball, y'all? Okay, And I mean this is
24:52
thank you for that for the word. I appreciate you, Reverend doctor Ben.
24:56
I mean, but since I mentioned his name, I also wanted to
25:00
mention. I don't know if you saw that, because that also happened this
25:02
week or earlier that Byron Allen he pro big money Byron, A big money
25:07
Byron, a thirty billion buyout of Paramount Global. Now a few months back
25:12
and even again in December, he has been trying to buy be T and
25:18
that was rebuffed, so he said, fuck it, I'm gonna buy the
25:19
whole thing. So that of course that pushed that that what I was gonna
25:25
say. That stock went up crazy. They're like, oh, oh,
25:29
it comes this, you know, it comes this big money. But you
25:33
know, of course there's doubt there. They don't know, you know,
25:36
and some analysts are like, we don't know what he's getting that money from.
25:37
I'm like, well needed to Elon Musky. He did that ship anyway.
25:41
So my thing is the money is there. He can figure it out.
25:45
It's just is Paramount gonna take it seriously and to that and not to
25:49
be conspiracy theorists, but this is also a black man that's going that.
25:53
I just can't see it a black man ConTroll it. And again this is
25:57
not whole TEP talk. They like this Paramount for you for people who don't
26:02
know hold on. Let me pull it up. Paramount is composed of beet
26:07
MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon, CBS, and in their general global TV
26:11
business, which was just that he owned Star Trek, right yeah, Like
26:18
because it's not because it's news, but it's also culture, right Yeah,
26:22
I mean Paramount owned Star Trek, Star Trek. His inclusion would be a
26:26
vast change in the landscape or the media landscape, of the management and direction
26:33
and power thereof right, Like, he would become one of the people who
26:38
are making making the decisions. Right and allegedly some of this stuff he would
26:42
just sell off and he would just focus on the TV. But like the
26:45
media, the media piece is where the power is. So I'm just like,
26:48
are they going to allow this man to do something like this? Even
26:52
if he turned around and said here's that, he'd point to it. He
26:55
pointed a tangible fifty billion dollar check or whatever it was, you know,
26:59
I mean, will they be like they'll still tain't? No shareholders love it.
27:07
I'm curious. You're not sure, Ben, I mean, it's like,
27:17
I don't know, man, I'm not sure if they will. You
27:21
know, that is thirty billion excuse me, but yeah, God damn and
27:29
I know he put it together with a conglomberate like you said. So,
27:32
I mean, just like when Elon allegedly bought what's his face for forty four
27:36
forty four like he didn't have that. It was a congoment, Saudi money
27:40
and some other money. So my thing is, it's how you come up
27:45
with that is kind of beyond the besides the point when you have enough leverage
27:48
and acts as you can figure it out. But the fact that it's a
27:51
real fucking offer and he's sitting there, y'all need to take it for real,
27:53
and the markets took it for real. So what's gonna happen next?
27:59
That's big questions. I don't know that. I mean, that's interesting.
28:02
That's how I can say on that. That is that's big talk. You
28:04
know, he's always been dowting Byron Allen, my man has been you know,
28:07
stacking chips like jeez, yeah, fourteen point three billion. So where
28:12
did the thirty billion come from? Oh? I think that's for some other
28:15
stuff. But uh no, Alan Media Group made and un solicited. Unsolicited
28:19
that's another thing. I think that's bowl no one fucking asked you. It's
28:22
like, well, fuck you I'm putting this shit out there. Well,
28:25
he tried to buy bet right, he's been he was trying by and they
28:29
rebuffed those yes, like them and ye some other people. Yeah, he
28:33
says that it I'll just buying your whole shit there. Yeah yeah, yeah,
28:34
so all right, I mean that shit like that. I mean,
28:40
and the man already owns like he owns I believe he owns like twenty six
28:42
conglomerate networks. He owns the Weather Channel. I don't know if you knew
28:45
that, Oh yeah, knew that. That's how he started the black Man
28:48
black Man. He was gonna rain or not. So that's how he started
28:52
getting his money, right. So it's it's it's just interesting how this is
28:56
going to play out or not play out, I don't know. And then
28:57
it's just like if it don't play it's like, so, what was the
29:00
reason. This is a premium? This is a huge I think it's a
29:03
fifty percent premium over their current stock rise and they have like another fourteen billion
29:07
in debt. So if y'all say, no, what's the reason, what
29:11
was the reason? What was the reason? I know that's on that.
29:15
That's on that, uh and some other news today or yesterday whenever. I
29:21
don't know, Uh, the Sony State of play happened, where Sony,
29:25
you know, shows off all the shit they got coming from PlayStation. I
29:33
didn't You'll have to tell me because I didn't see everything else. Now it's
29:36
the big news that I saw was there's a ten minute trailer for Death Stranding
29:41
on the Beach, which is the sequel to Death Stranding. I really enjoyed,
29:47
like the first hour I played of Death Stranding, and then I got
29:49
bored and gave up listen and I never went back. Kajima Kojima, Son
29:56
Kajima. Kajima's stuff is dense. It's very dense in terms of just what
30:04
he's thinking about and what he's not thinking about, and what he's trying to
30:07
convey and his art. His art can be an understanding of what his point
30:12
is can be very elusive. And that's not because people don't get it's just
30:17
like he really doing his own ship and because he's like, you know,
30:19
he's gaming God and Genius and all this other stuff. It's just sometimes it
30:23
is hard to like really like sink your teeth into it. Let's say that.
30:29
Yeah, so if people say the Death Stranding and by the end of
30:33
it, you you know, pretty much everything get explained, okay, but
30:37
you got to get through all the other ship first to get there. And
30:40
I mean he explained a lot in metal gear and a lot, and that
30:45
shit didn't made no sense, So I get it got more convoluted every year.
30:49
I'm like, oh my god. And then a lot of explanations are
30:55
terrible. So no, but they say the defth stranding overall explanations worked out,
31:00
et cetera, et cetera. So I'm still not hype for the new
31:06
one, you know whatever. I mean. Listen, what I'm hyped for
31:10
is actually the is it a movie or is another game? But the the
31:14
project that he's working on with Jordan Peele and they horror. I'm good.
31:22
I'm looking for it to Okay, I'm not a horror person, that's the
31:26
thing. I'm not even a harbor. But I'm looking forward to seeing what
31:30
these crazed maniacs cook up, because it's like, ain't no way, Todeo's
31:34
out of his mind a lot of times, and then Jordan thinks everything's funny.
31:38
So I just like them together, Like last year, even the year
31:42
before, they have posted a picture on Twitter, and I screamed, I
31:45
said, what the fuck are y'all doing together? Like certain two certain people
31:48
should not be working together because they will f you up royally, and I
31:52
think these are two people who can do that. So I know, I
31:56
don't know, Ben, I'm I'm trying to see what they're doing. I'm
31:59
trying to see they're been talking about. Yeah, I'm just not a sorry,
32:02
it's not something I'm like, oh, I you know, what are
32:06
they doing? I'm good if you know, if people prove me wrong and
32:09
it's something I might want to check out. But I just died it.
32:12
Man. I do not play horror games at all, like, never have
32:15
from the first Resident Evil. It's never missed something that interests me. M
32:20
that's fine. Yeah. Also in the state of play, they have Rise
32:24
of the Ronan game is I'm assuming about Ronan's and they're talking about like one
32:31
on one sword combat stuff like that. There playing that the Ghost of Yeah,
32:40
played that for a minute. It was cool. Uh, it was
32:44
a big it was a big game, like yeah, and I just didn't
32:47
care enough to keep going, Like you know, I did some ship in
32:52
and it had some battles, had some good times. It was cool.
32:54
It was very beautiful, but I was like, whatever, you know,
32:59
like just gave up. Didn't feel like yeah, yeah, I mean there's
33:02
a lot of like open world type stuff. He is Stellar Blade, Deep
33:07
Dive, Dragon's Dog, More two Sonic and Shadow generations as in Sonic the
33:14
Hedgehog. So a new Sheanic game that's coming out to all platforms, every
33:17
fucking platform. Imaginal is there. Uh literally, I'm like, damn Silent
33:22
Hill. Another Silent Hill spin off is coming. I thought that's what the
33:27
Jordan I thought that's what they're working on together. I don't know. Yeah,
33:31
I don't know because I men don't worry about it. Yeah, I
33:37
told you I care about it. So no, they are. Yeah,
33:42
they're making a game, but it's a completely separate situation upcoming home. It's
33:45
called o D. I know he like paid tribute because before Kojima was working
33:52
on a not Silent Hill, it might have been Hill. He was working
33:57
on a hard game before, and so in the trailer for the new one,
34:01
they paid tribute to that old one. There's like subtle clues to the
34:06
one before it might have been Silent Hill, or I think it is Silent
34:09
Hill, right, Yeah, I think it's it's Resident Evil Silent Hill.
34:15
If you're talking about that, then yeah, yeah, I think it was
34:17
Silent Hill, though. I think he was working on the Silent Hill game
34:20
before and now before he left, you know, and had to form his
34:22
own company and all that shit. So but in the trailer for the new
34:25
one, they paid some tribute to it there. I noticed because I pay
34:29
attention and I don't even when I don't care. There's some game called Dave
34:34
the Diver that's going to have Godzilla in it. Oh shit. So and
34:37
like a lot of these, you got to actually watch the trailer that get
34:40
the gist of what the game is about. Zundless Zone zero, Let's see
34:46
Metro Awakening VR. Oh yeah, and there's a lot. There's some VR
34:49
stuff that's been announced as well. So I don't know if you've I don't
34:52
care to strike you. You don't strike me as a VR person. I
34:54
don't know if you even messed with you before, like it, would you
35:00
do it again? Yeah? I was waiting for the VR for the PS
35:04
five to drop, and then it did drop, and they stood and dropping
35:07
off games for it, and they didn't support it. There's been no support,
35:09
So we'll see if they're going to abandon it or give it some more
35:13
support. Everybody, it's abandoned. It's effectively been abandoned for many years now,
35:17
so but they know that. No, the PS five win just dropped
35:21
last year. No, listen, listen, Yes, and they're announcing more
35:24
VR stuff at this state of play. And what I'm telling you is until
35:28
I see some real action, no, No, they ain't done nothing with
35:30
it. Yeah, they haven't done the what do you call a game?
35:35
The Starfighter, the X wing game they had that ship was supposed to be
35:38
incredible in VR. So I was waiting for the new VR headset because I
35:43
have that game already. So I was waiting for the new VR headset.
35:45
But that shit's dumb expensive and I'm like, I'm not buying that to play
35:50
this one Star Wars game. So that's been that's been old of and then
35:54
Apple joined is pretty dope. So now i'm you know, I'm thinking about
35:58
you know, I'm looking at that. But yeah, even that, I'll
36:00
definitely wait for, you know, Volume two. A game that I am
36:04
super into that I haven't even played yet and I am so afraid to start
36:07
playing is Power World. And the reason why I'm afraised because I know I'm
36:14
gonna get assessed with it. It's it's everyone's calling it basically Pokemon with guns,
36:20
and I know you've seen it and heard about it by shout out to
36:23
Lunar Engineer who says he is knee deep in that and he's been in that.
36:28
They've even pourted it over to VR, and Luna is very big into
36:31
VR. He has a quest, so we know we're gonna see some video
36:34
from him. But literally, power is all the stuff that I've wanted to
36:37
do in Pokemon and wish I could do, and they just fucking did it
36:40
and added some you know, fucked up shit to it, and I'm with
36:44
it. I'm about that life and the fact that, like they said,
36:46
like right now, it's nineteen million players across the lid, it's probably twenty
36:52
now literally as we speak, it just keeps going up by like a million
36:54
every every every twelve hours. So and this shit just dropped like earlier this
37:00
or in January. And it's technically still like preview, like it's I mean,
37:05
and on paper it's still like preview. It's not like the final release,
37:08
but like between the sheer amount of intention and players and what I'm seeing
37:15
of it being open and pretty much it's not like no general main like,
37:20
there's no main story. You just do what the fuck you want to do
37:22
with your pals aka Pokemon. Like it's just it's just it just goes back
37:28
to my heydays of like being deeply gamer, deep deep gamer and again being
37:32
a huge Pokemon fan and being in that life and really caring, and it
37:37
got and for me, it got so boring after a while. So to
37:38
be able to essentially kind of y'all ripping off of them, I ain't gonna
37:43
hold you like I don't know if you've seen the character designs, Ben,
37:45
but oh yeah, straight chat moves is yes, it's you know, it's
37:52
it's it's copied my homework, but try to change it up a little bit.
37:55
And it's like, I don't know, y'all might have been looking over
38:00
on people's papers, but you know, you know, you try to make
38:02
enough of a change to try to get over it. And of course,
38:07
you know, the Pokemon people don't like that. They said they're going to
38:09
be investigating, so we'll see how long this lasts. But in the meantime,
38:13
I feel like I need to get on this and this could potentially this
38:16
could be the game that actually brings me back to gaming. It makes me
38:20
sit there and actually stream. And but I'm also afraid because I don't want
38:22
to overdo it. I don't want to overdo it. But I mean,
38:27
yeah, I've read up art it. I just I don't I haven't played
38:35
any of these the survival games that it hasn't struck my interest, I know,
38:40
because like Fortnight type games. Yeah, well Fortnite's more massive. This
38:45
is like in the vein of Arc with the Dinosaur. It's a lot of
38:50
things mixed into it. Yeah, but it's got a lot of Arc or
38:53
days past with the zombies like you you know, you start off punching trees
39:00
built, you grab some rocks, you build up for Yeah, it's got
39:04
the Fortnite. Yeah. It has a lot of components of a lot of
39:07
successful games in it and then throws in a ghetto rigged kind of Pokemon ship.
39:13
And I learned that the main designer is a high schooler. Yeah one
39:16
of them. Yep, yep, yep. I was like, what good
39:20
for you? But yeah, not not the biggest interest in the I am
39:25
This is this is literally my bread and butter. I'm like, oh my
39:29
god, so like right now, I've been playing this joint RedFest, which
39:34
is this uh demolition derby car racing game, which I really enjoyed. I
39:38
think it was free and I've just been loving that. But some twisted metal
39:42
ship. Yeah not not not as nearly as L's twist metal. You know,
39:45
this is realistic, well I mean more realistic. Okay, you know
39:51
you don't have that type of ship so far, I haven't seen it.
39:54
It's just cars and demolition derby and races where it turns into a demolition derby.
40:00
So it's I've been enjoying that. And what I've really I've been holding
40:04
off and I know, I just I want to do Balder's date, you
40:07
know, and I want to Oh you are going to be sucked in that
40:12
ship, I know. And I'm like, I've played the demo five hours,
40:15
your character maybe more. No, I played the demo. It took
40:19
me like an hour. No, I'm like, I'm just talking about how
40:22
people have been. Yeah, it took me a good hour to you know,
40:27
get the design that I wanted. I have my fire dragon born dude,
40:31
and I wasn't blown away. I don't like that's the thing, Like
40:36
the interface didn't really do it for me, but the story was getting me
40:39
right away. So I think within the next couple of weeks, I'm going
40:45
to just you know, bite the bullet and buy Balder's date. So that's
40:49
you know, Yeah, I don't know if I'll be streaming that. I
40:52
won't make no promises. I have been streaming more DJ sets, that's the
40:57
every Tuesday and every probably every Thursday now at four pm Eastern. I've been
41:01
doing DJ sets on twitch dot tv slash dj Ben. I mean to make
41:06
sure you follow me over there. I've been seeing him, yep. But
41:09
I gaming. I'm still not really a big gaming streamer, So I don't
41:14
know if I'm going to be doing that at all. We'll see. Yeah,
41:16
if I get it's over, yeah, you'll have to. I'm it's
41:22
like really hard for me not to at this point, and you know,
41:25
as a former gaming addict, I'm like, so, all right, did
41:31
you ever get to speak about that book last week? No? I didn't
41:35
because we you know, ended the show talking about Dick Roydan. We got
41:38
him out of there. I actually finished it. The It's the first in
41:44
a series from n K Jamison The City We Became. I'm not sure the
41:50
name of the series, but the sequel just dropped a few weeks ago,
41:52
I think. But I picked up the first book, The City We Became.
41:57
It's a story about out I don't want to give away too much,
42:04
but it's a story about avatars and the cities they represent. So different people
42:10
represent different cities, and they are the Avatar, the City and Vegas like
42:17
Vegas, but New York in this case, this one is mainly centers on
42:22
New York. And it centers on New York awakening, like the whole Avatar
42:25
becoming awake and becoming an Avatar of New York and the boroughs each having their
42:30
own Avatar and them having to come together to fight this great enemy. And
42:37
I enjoyed it. I'm I'm going to pick up the sequel eventually. It's
42:40
not like where I'm like, oh, I gotta rush out and get the
42:43
sequel. I think, people, you know, your mindage may vary on
42:45
it, but I thought it was a good read. You know, it's
42:49
the Brooklyn Avatar legit. The Brooklyn Avatar is legit. I definitely fell in
42:52
love with the Bronx Avatar and I had problems with the Staten Island Avatar as
42:59
fucking states and the Bronze Avatar was definitely my favorite character in the book.
43:06
And I actually really loved the Staten Island Avatar, you know, and I
43:08
understood their choices. That was that was the great thing about the writing,
43:13
and Kate really did that with that because even though I disagreed with them,
43:15
I understood where they were coming from and really felt for them, you know,
43:19
in a way, like I really liked their character. They're in a
43:22
funck up spot. They're fucked up, but they're in a funck up spot
43:24
and they were you know, raised up, fucked up. Yeah, and
43:31
it's it's got some love crafty and elements. I'll say that it definitely feels
43:37
like Get Another in the vein of love craft country, of retaking and reclaiming
43:44
the love craft mythos, and you know, because it's there's a lot of
43:49
racism and love crafts work reclaiming that and re examining that. And I really
43:53
enjoyed that side of it too. So yeah, I would definitely recommend this
43:58
for you know, if you want a good novel, good read, really
44:00
dope city book. No, It's a series the sequel just dropped, and
44:05
there's going to be more than two. I think they're playing at least three
44:07
books in the series by NK. Jamison, Yep, The City We Became.
44:12
I'm not sure the name of the sequel, but you can find out
44:14
once you get the first one. So okay, and last show, we
44:16
were unfortunately surprised by the fact that Outlaw Johnny black Ben dropped dropped in September.
44:22
You did get to see it. I did get to see it,
44:27
and I I liked it all right. Now, this thing when we talked
44:34
to Michael John White, he explained it, if you're looking for a sequel
44:37
to Black Dynamite, this isn't it. And I was still I didn't believe
44:42
him. You know, I was like, fuck that, nigga, give
44:44
me my sequel to Black Dynamite, and so I wanted to. I watched
44:49
it looking for a sequel to Black Dynamite, and this is no sequel to
44:51
Black Dynamite. There's comedy, but it's just not on the level of Black
44:54
Dynamite. I think Black Dynamite is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
44:58
To this base se quotable, I quoted all the time. But Black
45:02
Dynamoe, I sell drugs in the community. I'm declaring on anyone some drugs
45:07
in the community. But black I still drugs. I still drugs to the
45:14
community. It is one of the funniest. So he's so insulted by it.
45:21
So you ignored. So you ignored what he said that it wasn't a
45:25
sequel or even a spiritual sequel, because it's a Western and it's just different,
45:30
like the joke. So what did you get out of it? It
45:32
was a cool Western, I guess, you know, I guess, yeah,
45:37
it was. It was cool. Man. This ain't one of the
45:43
Michael John joints. You know, I'll like, yo, if you ain't
45:45
seen Black Dynamite, go see Black Dynamite. You know, Michael John got
45:49
a million joints the version. Look, if you want some you know,
45:52
if you want some action. You know, I got a million joints on
45:57
Netflix, on pretty much every streaming network filled with you know, dope action.
46:01
This was like, if you want a comedy Western, I would say,
46:07
peep it. You know, with black people. There's some beautiful black
46:10
women in all the government, you know, I mean, I know this
46:13
is supposed to be comedy, but what about ship like the heart of they
46:15
fall not they falls fire. Bro, That's what I'm saying. Like you
46:19
say, if you got to see Western black people, I would definitely say
46:22
you would say that one. You know. Yeah, yeah, sorry,
46:28
let's be real. But you know, I love you, bro, but
46:30
yeah, this ain't. It was cool, you know what I mean.
46:35
It's cool, but I mean I don't believe you. It keeps it gets
46:37
worse as you continue, and the and the size and the E and I
46:42
and then I don't know, bro, all the all the vowels ain't it
46:45
ain't doing it for me? So well, before we get out of here,
46:47
you know, I do have to say that this week was also monumental.
46:51
We talked about this on the Patreon episode, but in a big comic
46:57
side. This week in Previews Magazine, which is the ordering magazine. It's
47:06
the trade magazine for the industry where all your stores order, pre order order
47:12
books. Hendricks Purple Haze, written by Mellow Marketer and me is where you're
47:20
gonna be. I'm trying to point to you. Yeah, it's out,
47:24
it is there, it's for order. It will drop in July. You
47:30
can July twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four. The book is real.
47:37
It's real. You can go to your local common store, your local bookstore,
47:39
tell them it's in previews. Tell them to pre order it. Please,
47:44
please tell your local common store to pre order it. You know what
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I mean. Tell them you want Ben I mean a mellow to come through
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for as signing. Demand it. Demand that shit. Be like, Yo,
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you need to fly these niggas out here. I don't care how much
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it costs me. Fuck that shit. I know you ain't making no money
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to come to the independent bookstore. Broadcast nigga, get your money up and
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fly these niggas out of there. No, just pre order please, you
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know I'll fly myself out there and sign that ship myself if I have to.
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I'm so goddamn excited about this. I really can't wait for y'all to
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read it. We've been working on this book for years, literally years of
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blood, sweat and tears I put into this book, and I just cannot
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wait for y'all to get it. And I would argue, finally available for
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Yeah, that's finally available. I would argue, you've been working on us
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your whole life. I would too, And you know that'll come out more
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in some interviews and things. We'll talk about this some more. But yeah,
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no, this book has been a part of me, my whole life.
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Yeah, straight up and down. There are themes in this book I've
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been thinking about my whole life, you know, their theories and ideas that
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I've been thinking about since I first fell in love with music, and I
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poured everything into this shit. Man, it's something so yeah, so proud
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of you. I'm always, always, always so proud of you. Thank
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you so much. I'm so excited for us. You know, we'll both
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be at San Diego Comic Con celebrating this shit. All kinds of things are
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coming from this, you know. It's one of my goals is to write
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for Marvel, to write another independent series, and to write a sequel to
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this. So those are my three comic goals for this year. Oh and
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speaking of celebration, we also we celebrated him last month. But congratulations to
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our engineer Luna, who was expecting a little one on the way. I
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just wanted to make sure that we gave you a shine on the show because
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you are an intrinsic part of the show. We want to make sure all
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the fan fam knows about your bundle with Joy on the way and they can
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congratulate you. So congratulations, Lena. Word up. May sure y'all go
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congratulate our editor and one mister Luna, the legend himself. Thank you for
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everything. Graduations posa beyond ader than those of behold and holler than Boss.