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369: Sister Wives - The Pink Elephant In The Room (S21 E4) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: I'm one of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with
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  Speaker 1: the incandescent Beatrice.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister wives, honey. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: Now Beatrice and I want to acknowledge that there was
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  Speaker 1: a bit of an uproar with Christine last week because
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  Speaker 1: apparently after watching... Not this episode, but the episode before
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  Speaker 1: when Mary and her friends were talking about a potential
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  Speaker 1: meeting with Mary and Christine. They were having, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: a respectful conversation. But apparently, Christine and David, who were
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  Speaker 1: well into their cups, their cups were overflowing.
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  Speaker 2: Allegedly.
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  Speaker 1: I think. They got very upset. They made an Instagram
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  Speaker 1: Live in which they were railing on about Mary and
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  Speaker 1: her posse. And the backlash was swift and brutal.
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  Speaker 2: It's honestly fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: People were not happy with Christine. And so then the
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  Speaker 1: very next day, Christine made some sort of a soft-spoken,
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  Speaker 1: keep-sweet apology for being triggered.
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  Speaker 2: Not even really an apology.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of word salad, a lot of sound and
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  Speaker 1: fury signifying nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm speaking my mind.
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  Speaker 3: This is my truth, my Mormon truth.
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  Speaker 1: Well, people didn't like that either. And so Beatrice and I,
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  Speaker 1: we captured both of those videos in case she takes
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  Speaker 1: them down. And we are going to watch them together
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  Speaker 1: Patreon because we have a lot of fun there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: before we get into our recap, I do have to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, my delightful Beatrice, whether you have any takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these episodes weren't that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, especially last week's episode was like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more entertaining. But.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like they're manufacturing drama. Like
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  Speaker 2: the drama between Mary and Christine. Like Mary's like, I've
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  Speaker 2: got to have a conversation with her. And it's like
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  Speaker 2: about nothing. It's like not even that hard of a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Christine and Mary have things to talk
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  Speaker 1: about regarding their own relationship. And what we see so
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  Speaker 1: far is them just kind of defaulting to talking about
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  Speaker 1: Robin and Cody, which they can agree upon. Exactly. I'm
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  Speaker 1: wondering if next week we're going to get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more into their dynamics.
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  Speaker 2: I hope so.
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  Speaker 1: But I doubt it because they deflect so much that
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  Speaker 1: we rarely get into the meat of it. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it feels very produced, especially Janelle to
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  Speaker 1: me with like the color theory and the line dancing
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  Speaker 1: and her random friend coming over to line dance and
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  Speaker 1: her trying on new clothes. I mean, that's great. And
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  Speaker 1: I kind of do enjoy it, but it doesn't feel authentic.
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  Speaker 1: And again, it's this vibration of a missed opportunity where
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  Speaker 1: we could have this truly robust scintillating and scathing season
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  Speaker 1: where they take Cody and Robin to task. Like this
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  Speaker 1: is just a once in a lifetime opportunity. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that we get another season with these three women
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  Speaker 1: and yet they're not really using the time wisely according
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  Speaker 1: to what.
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  Speaker 2: I would like. Not at all. I mean, even their
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  Speaker 2: Zoom kitchen meetup last week was kind of a nothing burger.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we were going to see more of their
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  Speaker 2: cooking and have more fun with it.
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  Speaker 4: Recipes.
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  Speaker 2: It was like five minutes of meeting on a Zoom
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  Speaker 2: call and then they hang up.
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  Speaker 1: Now, my takeaway was that there's like a charm factor
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  Speaker 1: to me with visiting with the ladies. Yes, it's boring. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I have some critiques about Mary's decorating and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get into that. But I mean, there's just something
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  Speaker 1: that I do like about it because it's good to
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  Speaker 1: see these women trying new things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Having their own personal adventures, trying to make amends with
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  Speaker 1: each other, even though maybe they don't really want to.
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  Speaker 1: But like, I don't know. I'm actually, what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is I'm actually enjoying it a little bit more than
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  Speaker 1: the first two episodes. I'm not saying that this is sustainable.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see another five seasons of this garbage, but
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  Speaker 1: for what it is right now, I'm not hating it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I do like them all together. I don't
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  Speaker 2: like seeing like Christine and David together, for example.
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  Speaker 1: Me neither.
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  Speaker 2: Like get out of my TV. You're so boring.
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  Speaker 1: David's got to go, honey.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. I don't want to think about this
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  Speaker 2: old man and his sex proclivities.
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  Speaker 1: His role playing and Elizabeth Hurley fixation. I'm like, oh God,
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  Speaker 1: take him out back and put him down. I've had
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  Speaker 1: enough of that guy and that's for damn sure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that was my takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's get into our recap of
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  Speaker 1: Sister Wives season 21. A little bit of episode three,
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  Speaker 1: but mostly episode four.
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  Speaker 2: So episode four is the pink elephant in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Last week's episode was falling into old feels. And there wasn't,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was some interesting stuff in last week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: Mainly it was Mary and her friends talking about going
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  Speaker 2: through the old family photos with the other wives and
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  Speaker 2: and how Mary had made a fun suggestion about recreating
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  Speaker 2: their old, like, polygamist photo, and Christine was all triggered
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  Speaker 2: by it because she didn't want to be put on
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  Speaker 2: the bottom anymore. And Mary tells her friends this, and
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  Speaker 2: she's like, you know, I don't really understand why Christine's
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  Speaker 2: kind of upset about it. Like, I didn't mean to
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  Speaker 2: make her feel like she would be on the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: The other friends are like, well, maybe it just triggered
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  Speaker 2: something in her from her past, and she probably didn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know... want to do another recreation of the photo
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  Speaker 2: because it hurts her feelings and that's perfectly fine. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Mary ultimately understands that after talking to her friends,
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  Speaker 2: her friends were pretty gracious to Christine.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were entirely gracious. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: Amber who said something like, I thought she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be the third wife. I thought that that was her
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  Speaker 1: dream all of her life. And now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: because she was the third wife, she's got trauma. I
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  Speaker 1: think two things can be true at once. I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe Christine is, you know, absolutely buying the bullshit of
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  Speaker 1: her cult thought that being the third wife was going
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  Speaker 1: to be great. And then she got there and she's
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  Speaker 1: stuck in the basement and she's ignored and she's dismissed.
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  Speaker 1: And so she's got trauma from that. But as to
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  Speaker 1: their conversation, I thought all of those women were trying
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  Speaker 1: to give Christine grace in the moment and trying to
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  Speaker 1: see it from Christine's side while also advocating for their friend, Mary.
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  Speaker 1: There was nothing in that conversation that struck me as
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  Speaker 1: even remotely disrespectful. In fact, if it was me and
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  Speaker 1: my friends, um, They're imaginary. I don't have friends. Me
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  Speaker 1: and my dog. I would be tearing Christine a new
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  Speaker 1: asshole for all the shit she had said on television
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  Speaker 1: about me. Like I would have a much stronger conversation.
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  Speaker 1: These women were nice.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were very nice. And I thought it
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  Speaker 2: came across like the friends were trying to help Mary
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  Speaker 2: understand Christine's point of view because Mary thought that the
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  Speaker 2: whole photo thing was really innocent. And Mary's friends were like, well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Christine feels like it's a trauma thing or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And Mary's like, oh, you know, I never really thought
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  Speaker 2: about it that way. And I thought it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting that they had this conversation because then in
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  Speaker 2: this week's episode, we have Christine saying something like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I always felt like I didn't matter, but I never
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  Speaker 2: understood or even acknowledged that the other wives felt that
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  Speaker 2: way too. And so I think that's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the theme of it is like all three of these
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  Speaker 2: women had their own like unique experiences with Cody. And
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  Speaker 2: I kind of talked about this in my short that
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  Speaker 2: I had posted a couple weeks ago. They all had
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  Speaker 2: their own specific experiences, but they never really thought about
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  Speaker 2: how the other wives would feel, not only in their
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Cody, but in their relationship to each other. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And Robin and this whole family thing, and then their
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  Speaker 2: polygamist structure and their religious structure. And I think when
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  Speaker 2: Mary's talking with her friends, she understands that. But then
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  Speaker 2: as we will talk about in our reaction on Patreon
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  Speaker 2: with Christine, Christine's all triggered by it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because she's just triggered. Yes. Like that's just all it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she has it out for Mary.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: To be quite honest. And I'm not going to ever
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  Speaker 1: be the advocate for Mary out here. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm quite critical of the way that she's conducted herself.
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  Speaker 1: I think she has been bitchy. I think she has
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  Speaker 1: potentially been maybe even abusive according to the children in
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  Speaker 1: their opinion. So there's a lot wrong and problematic with
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  Speaker 1: Mary's behavior. But at the same time, out of all
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  Speaker 1: three women, she's the only one to me that feels
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  Speaker 1: like she's willing to do the work. Whether she's doing
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  Speaker 1: the work, I don't know. I don't think she's in therapy,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. But she seems willing to have conversations and
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  Speaker 1: go deeper. And with Christine, it's always like, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go back into it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to dig through the past. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: see how we can move forward. And Mary is conscious
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  Speaker 1: enough to realize that that's really not how that works.
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  Speaker 1: And furthermore, I don't really want to have a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with people who are not willing to connect with me
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  Speaker 1: on that level. Like, why would I put myself out there?
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  Speaker 2: I think Mary's ability to be very direct and like
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  Speaker 2: whether or not she has been kind in her direct
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  Speaker 2: communication or not, like I think her ability to be
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  Speaker 2: direct honestly intimidates the other wives. I think it intimidates
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  Speaker 2: Christine because Christine doesn't want to talk about the past
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  Speaker 2: and doesn't want to dredge up any of her trauma.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it intimidates Janelle, who is like a
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  Speaker 2: turbo avoidant personality who doesn't want to deal with anything.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to move on. And I think that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like the root of their issues. And then Mary
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  Speaker 2: to her friends also talks about how she wants to
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  Speaker 2: meet up with Christine and talk to her about how
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  Speaker 2: she feels uncomfortable interacting with her. And, you know, Christine
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  Speaker 2: has made it very clear that she doesn't want a
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Mary. So she kind of wants to talk
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  Speaker 2: to her about that. And that kind of sets up
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  Speaker 2: this week's episode as well about, you know, I got
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Christine about our relationship and our lack
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  Speaker 2: of friendship.
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  Speaker 1: What's bothering me here is that Christine just seems so immature.
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  Speaker 1: Like she doesn't have a basic ability to communicate the
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  Speaker 1: underlying thing that is causing her to react. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: she says, yeah, of course I'm going to be intimidated
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  Speaker 1: talking to Mary or like, yeah, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: spend any time with Mary. Why? The deeper question is why,
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  Speaker 1: what happened? Talk about that, communicate about that and how
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  Speaker 1: that made you feel and why you feel at risk
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  Speaker 1: to enter back into a conversation with Mary. But like,
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  Speaker 1: that's The depth we never get from really any of them,
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  Speaker 1: but especially immature Christine. Now, I was on Instagram today
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  Speaker 1: and I was watching somebody's real recap of their attachment styles.
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  Speaker 1: And I forget who it was. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: Little Miss Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And so they were saying that Janelle was just a
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  Speaker 1: pure avoidant. She's avoidantly attached. She does not want to
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  Speaker 1: deal with shit, honey. She just wants to move on
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  Speaker 1: and do her own thing. And then Christine is anxiously attached. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And also avoidant a little bit. And Mary is securely
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  Speaker 1: avoidantly attached. So out of all three, it was their
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  Speaker 1: perception that Mary was the most secure in how she's
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  Speaker 1: connecting with people. And I thought that they were actually
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  Speaker 1: pretty right on with that.
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  Speaker 2: I watched that same reel because Ethel actually sent it
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  Speaker 2: to me today too. And I think right now, Mary
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  Speaker 2: appears as the more emotionally mature person. because she's able
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  Speaker 2: to kind of have these conversations with people. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's always been the case. I think they've always
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  Speaker 2: kind of been emotionally immature. It seems like Mary has
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  Speaker 2: done a little bit of work in that. So that
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  Speaker 2: way she's able to, to appear more mature than these
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  Speaker 2: other women. I think Christine is that disorganized, anxious, avoidant
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  Speaker 2: attachment style. And Janelle totally is like, so avoidant. She
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  Speaker 2: can't even verbalize it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Janelle is avoidant in all other areas
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  Speaker 1: of her life or her other relationships? Or maybe is
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  Speaker 1: she just over this? Like it's not so much being avoidant.
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  Speaker 1: It's more like, I just don't have any bandwidth for
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  Speaker 1: you fools anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Janelle for me strikes me as emotionally avoidant. So I
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  Speaker 2: would say it's in all aspects, but it's mainly her emotions.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I don't think she she's even said it herself.
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  Speaker 2: She's very stoic, which is a good quality. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: like dogging on that, but like at a certain point
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  Speaker 2: in time, you have to be able to feel the
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  Speaker 2: emotions that come up and be able to express that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a marker of maturity is being able to express
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  Speaker 2: your emotions in a healthy, you know, secure way. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that Janelle can do that because she
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  Speaker 2: can't even really talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she wants to do that. At least
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  Speaker 1: Mary has a curiosity and a deeper desire for connection.
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  Speaker 1: And can I just say something that's, So somewhat inappropriate,
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  Speaker 1: but like I look at body language and if you
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  Speaker 1: notice with Janelle, she's always doing something with her mouth.
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  Speaker 1: And whenever I see this, I'm thinking, what do you
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  Speaker 1: want to say? I feel like there's something you want
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  Speaker 1: to say or something you want to express, or there's some,
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  Speaker 1: some energy that's trying to move through you, but it's
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  Speaker 1: getting stuck right here in your mouth. And of course
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: she's a Taurus. They're governed by the throat. the throat chakra,
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  Speaker 1: which is communication. And when you're out of alignment in
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  Speaker 1: your life, it shows up by being unable to communicate
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  Speaker 1: or being unable to say the things that you really
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  Speaker 1: want to say. And it just makes me wonder, well, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: if Janelle said the things she really wanted to say,
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  Speaker 1: what would those things be? Like the person to write
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  Speaker 1: the book, if she were to tell the truth, would
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  Speaker 1: be Janelle. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: And for Janelle, I don't even think she's like hiding
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  Speaker 2: it in a malicious way. I think she's repressed. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the issue. Whereas like, Christine, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know with Christine because she's an Aries. So like
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  Speaker 2: you would think that she would be somebody that would
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  Speaker 2: be very dynamic in her communication.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she is, but it's performative.
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  Speaker 2: It is performative. And she doesn't, I mean, she reacts
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  Speaker 2: with her anger sometimes. And so she'll come out saying
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  Speaker 2: things when she's pissed off. But like, other than that,
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  Speaker 2: we don't get a lot either. We don't get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of tears from her. We don't get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of insightful commentary a lot of the time because it's
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  Speaker 2: always about, that's what it is. Christine views the world
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  Speaker 2: only through her own self. She can't see it from
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  Speaker 2: other people's perspectives, and so therefore it's immature. Janelle, I think,
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  Speaker 2: has that capability because she can kind of put herself
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  Speaker 2: in other people's shoes, but she doesn't put herself in
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  Speaker 2: her own shoes, so she's repressed. And then Mary is like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Let's talk it through. which is
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  Speaker 2: a healthy thing to do, but nobody wants to do
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  Speaker 2: that in this family. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned that they're intimidated by Mary's communication style. Well,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: there's also, maybe they're afraid because they actually spent decades
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: with this woman and she was harsh. She was potentially
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: verbally abusive. And I think there was some physical stuff
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: that happened between her and Janelle. And so there could
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: be actually some reticence and a little bit of anxiety
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and fear about sitting down with somebody like Mary we
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: can see as the audience that Mary has made strides
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: that she seems to be trying in terms of personal development.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: But if you had to live with Mary for 30 years,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and if you were abused allegedly by Mary for many
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: of those years, you might be a little afraid and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: trepidatious to sit down across from her.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: For sure. And you might be like Christine and be
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: very reactive when she even puts her name in your mouth. Right.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Like, after everything you've been saying about Mary.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I know, for real.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But anyway.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And so the other things that happened in last week's episode,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: we have Truly learning to drive, which, you know, it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: great to see Truly, but I don't care about the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: driving lessons. David annoyed me in that as well, because
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, shut up, peanut gallery.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But I did love that we learned that Truly told
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: David that she loved him.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I thought that was sweet.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And David said that back to her. And so their
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: relationship really does seem to be authentic. And in the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: absence of her own father in her life, like it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: really great to see this guy step up, whether we
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like him or not.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It's wonderful to see.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And I do like that. We also had Janelle meeting
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: with the stylist last week to revamp her mom clothes,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: which I did kind of like her talking about how
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: she felt a little sorry for herself, her past self,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: because she didn't get to wear the things that she wanted.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Apparently Cody didn't. didn't like earrings so she stopped wearing
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: earrings and she stopped dressing feminine and you know she
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: dressed kind of frumpy because she thought that that was
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: modest and so it's cool that she's out on her
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: own and she's really trying to find herself and feel
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: sexy and cute and feminine and I do appreciate that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: The most lovely I've ever seen Janelle the most fantastic
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: color I've ever seen on her was at Christine's engagement
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: party or something at the Taqueria Mexican place. It was
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like this beautiful, I thought it was more of a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: jewel pink.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It was just like this beautiful pink flowy dress. Oh
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my God, did it suit her? She looked wonderful. When
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they were doing the colors on her, I'm like, some
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of those are a little icy. Some of those could
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: be better. But anyway, I love that she's putting herself
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: out there and trying something different.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Me too. And then we also have Mary celebrating her birthday.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And she kind of talks a little bit about her
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: birthday and how it was never really celebrated in the family.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And it didn't really matter to anybody. She brings up
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the fact that Janelle got married right after her birthday.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And we did hear something interesting from Janelle saying that
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they didn't really have a choice in the day of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: her wedding. marriage that they actually the church wanted her
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to get married on mary's birthday but then they graciously
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: pushed it to the day after do we believe that
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: and you know i had to ask my mormon friend
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: ethel because i'm like is that a thing that mormons
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: do and ethel's not a fundamentalist she didn't come from
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: fundamentalist mormonism she came from lds and she said it's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: not really a thing in lds faith but she said
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: she could see where Janelle was coming from because there's
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of like rules and regulations in Mormonism and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: especially in fundamentalist Mormonism that maybe they did pick the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: day and they didn't really have a choice. She said
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: in LDS faith, they have to like schedule out the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: wedding dates because if you want a temple marriage like
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a good mormon then you have to schedule it with
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the temple but you can still pick your day so
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: i'm like i feel like janelle probably could have pushed
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it to the weekend after i.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Mean like the next month when they were doing weddings
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's what i'm seeing yeah i think in the first
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: book they talk a little bit about this and how
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: mary had to put down her foot and say you
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: cannot do this because apparently in polygamy The husband is
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: dedicated to the wife who has the birthday. So that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is her day. He's not going to spend it at
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: any other woman's house. He's going to spend it with her.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And so if Janelle's birthday follows on, excuse me, Janelle's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: anniversary falls on Mary's birthday, then she's probably not going
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to see him all of the time. And she wants that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But then Robin comes into the family and Dayton's birthday
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: is on Mary's birthday. And so we know Robin's going
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to steal Cody away ultimately. But yeah, that's what she
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was thinking. And it makes perfect sense to me. Yep.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And Mary does say in this episode, she's like, you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: my issues with my birthday weren't because of Janelle, but
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe a little bit.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I think Janelle was probably pushing for it. For sure.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I think Mary just kind of says like, you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Cody never really celebrated me. And then Dayton's birthday followed
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: my birthday too. And so like, it just never really
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: was a priority. So I did kind of like seeing Mary,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, throw like a big birthday party for herself.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I did appreciate that. And she does say something like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: when I find my Mia. He better celebrate my birthday.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: He better celebrate all of me. And I'm like, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you go, girl. Right.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So when we saw that in the preview, we were thinking, oh,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: here goes Mary.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And like cringe.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But when you have the context, yeah, she really does
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: deserve a partner who's going to focus on her and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: celebrate her.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And I did appreciate that. As a fellow Leo where
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, the whole month of August is mine.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You don't say.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can get behind that. And then we
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: also get a reveal, a reveal of Mary's haunted B
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: & B that's been renovated. And apparently you have thoughts
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: about the design choices?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. Let me just preface by saying
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that I cannot decorate my own house. All of my walls,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: except for this one, they're white. There's no art on
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: them because I always select incorrectly. My furniture, I never
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: get it right. So I'm just, I'm no expert is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Beatriz. But at the same time, her kitchen,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I thought, was a vast improvement.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Over the old... oak cabinets the cabinets were great and
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff i thought the cabinetry was great
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the stone was great i mean the green everywhere i
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was a little like i'm not somebody who likes a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: whole lot of green in my house but that's just
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a personal preference but then when you move into the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: living room with that yeah weird fucking furniture yeah it
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: was a little that everybody's sitting on i mean i
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: understand like the throwback to older furniture it's definitely well
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: made unlike what we're getting in shitified now when you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: go to the rooms to gulp Like it's, these are
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: nice pieces, I guess, but it just looks haunted.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: It looks old fashioned.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it at all. I'm like a nice
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: big comfy couch. I want some neutrals. I want a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: real fire in the fireplace. I want somebody to come in,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: put a proper chimney, maybe get an insert in there
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so I can get some heat in this house. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: want warm tones. It was just giving a ghost lives there.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: The people under the stairs.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it is a haunted B & B.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It's literally haunted.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't like it. But I was surprised
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to hear Mary talk about looking in other cities.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: To live. Like, is this the first time we've heard that?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Because we thought maybe she's going to settle in Parowan.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And live in the haunted B & B next to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the hoarder house.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But. apparently she's going to be going to different cities,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: for example, San Francisco to see whether she wants to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: live somewhere else.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's like, I have to decide where I want
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to move. And I'm like, interesting.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: That's an adventure.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So maybe she'll make this like an Airbnb or something
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: like Christine and David and get the passive income. I mean,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that's what I think she should do. Yes. So that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: way she can have the passive income and stuff when
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Sister Wives ultimately gets canceled.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: In about four episodes.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I overall, I liked the decorations
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I thought the renovations were a vast improvement compared to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: what it used to look like but.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: It's incongruous with like an old timey Victorian don't you think.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah but that's kind of like what people
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: are doing nowadays like And honestly, it's better than the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: millennial gray and white everything. Yes. So I would rather
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: have some quirky color.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Can you really relax in those chairs though? Everybody seemed like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: So like, oh God. But I mean, look at what
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Mary chose for her furniture in the Las Vegas home.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That is a fact.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: With the couch with no armrests.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That is a fact. My God, the weirdest furniture from
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the consignment store.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It's super weird.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Well, hire a decorator.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I think she did. You're one of the top producers. No,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: she has a decorator friend who was not privy to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the choices she was making. I don't think she actually
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: hired a decorator.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she hired somebody and she was getting
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: her friend's approval. So then it's just all Mary.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I believe it's all Mary.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Look, everyone's entitled to their own style.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't like it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And it looks terrible. I really think it looks terrible,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but God bless. Are you going to do those bedrooms too?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Because that's where the ghosts are.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Up in those bedrooms. Ooh, with the dormered ceilings and anyway,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: God bless. God bless, Mary.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: God bless. Good for you. And then the last thing
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that happened last week was the Zoom call where they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: shared their recipes, but it was a total nothing burger.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Solomon Grundy. Oh, God.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Who calls goulash Solomon Grundy?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We've got old wounds around the goulash.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of crazy.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: That like Christine had this goulash that she called Solomon
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Grundy because it was like a family thing that's all,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: they all said it. And then because Robin came in,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: she got hurt. Because their baby was named Solomon and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you can't call this Solomon Grundy. That's crazy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And she sent Cody to marry, or excuse me, to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Christine to ask Christine to change the name of it
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: as opposed to just saying, hey girl, you know, maybe
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this is going to be confusing to King Solomon. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: if you could change this to Glouash, that'd be great.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But instead of that, she had Cody go and talk
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to Christine and tell her to change the title of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the recipe. It's just so bizarre, but I love, that's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I love the tidbits like that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, me too.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: More of that, please.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Because that's wild.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I just think that's so stupid. If I had a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: dish named after Beatrice and my mom was like, yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: this is like our Beatrice crunchy or something. I'd be like, yay,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it's me. And it's goulash. Like who doesn't love goulash? Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And she makes it with meatballs. I know. Sounds delicious. Solomon,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's the best meal in the house.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: But apparently it offends Queen Robin. So whatever. And then
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Janelle made a chocolate pie. And I really wish we
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: could have gotten the recipe for that chocolate pie because
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I would have fucked that shit up. Although we had
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: to have this like obligatory Mary talking about how she
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: hates pies.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Right. But it was on the heels of Janelle and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Christine talking about how they had that one time where
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: we made all of those pies to raise money for
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Christmas and Mary's. the odd man out because she wasn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a part of that. And so she's got to create
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a story now that she hates pie. Bah humbug.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: But she probably just feels sad because she was not included.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: In the pie making festivities.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe you need to grow a pear and like pie.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't like pie?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but that pie did need a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: whipped cream topping.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Come on now.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: If I would have made that, I would have made
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a whipped cream topping.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Are we on the same planet, girl?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe I need to make that French silk pie again
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, please.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: That was so good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And then Mary made these candy cane pastries, which I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: thought she was making real candy canes when she said it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Agreed. Me too.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: But it's some kind of pastry with like fruit cocktail
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: or something in it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Was that fruit cocktail?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It looked like fruit cocktail.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That's weird.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And I thought that was bizarre. I'm like, okay, you
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: like that, but you don't like pies?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, but we have some of those types
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of pastries. Like they're Danish.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: They're called. I don't know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Something with a K, but like, and sometimes like, Girls
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: sell them for school and stuff like that. And they've
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: got like raspberry and apple and strawberry. Crumbs, crullers, something
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like that. Crumble, crinkle.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Crinkle.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Crinkle. Crinkles.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: They are delicious.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I love a crinkle. And Denver.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Remember the taste of Denmark in Denver?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Their crinkles are so fucking good.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: We're hungry.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: But it kind of... Yes, we're constantly starving. But those
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: look really delicious. But if you're putting... Some sort of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: fruit salad in there?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Fruit cocktail in it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Fruit cocktail?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Which I mean could be good. Uh-uh. Dolly Parton's got
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a dump cake that has fruit cocktail in it. Apparently
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it's really good.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I would eat the fuck out of that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, anyway.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so now on to this week's episode, season 21,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: episode 4.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Well, but wait, was there some sort of awkwardness with
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the ladies when they're swapping conversation over recipes?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Did it seem a little odd?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's odd because it's on Zoom.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: This is stupid on Zoom.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Because we have to film content for the show?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody wants to be together and rent an
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Airbnb and cook together because, God forbid, we share our
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: kitchen because it's just going to trigger old memories.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Right. It's going to trigger my trauma. Yeah, a lot
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: of that talk.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Just like get over it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: So this week's episode, not a lot happened for like
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the first half of the episode.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have Janelle and her friend seeing her house. Christina.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Christina.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Christina and we remember her from nola we do we
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: remember her she seems nice she seems like a good
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: friend to janelle that tlc is paying to be on
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the show and she goes and sees janelle's house and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: janelle can't be bothered to unpack her house so we
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: have to see it like a hoarder fucking house with
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: all of her shit piled in the front room.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah that would get on my nerves i'm just like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: if it's gonna be on tv and this is the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: first time people are seeing my house i'm going to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: unpack it. You know that's right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You can hire U-Haul movers to unpack it for you.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: It's going to be perfect.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have people come in and stage it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: My God. Yeah, I don't understand. But like, that's okay.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: This is her house. She wants to be able to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: put her things in a place that makes sense for her.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: She is a Taurus. Her environment is very important.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'll just keep my mouth shut.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: But I did like her kitchen.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, her kitchen looked nice.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: It looked great.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And then we have David and Christine playing couples card games.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering why we need to see this.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: We don't need to see this.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: We literally don't.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Especially when it's centered around sex and that... forces me to.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Conjure in my mind imaginal scenes where those two are
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: humping it out and i'm not into it i'm like
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: can you even get it up why are we having
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: this conversation do you even have sex i don't know
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: and that's rude and so now i'm thinking rude thoughts
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: rude and you're forcing me to do that david and christine.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Because of course people of your age can have.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Sex see i see i see what you did right
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: there you would be shocked and appalled i don't want
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: to hear it no how much sex I actually have
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: with your father-in-law.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That man is a strapping hunk of lumberjack Texan. Let
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: me tell you. And he's also six years younger than
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: me because I got it like that, honey. And when
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he swings those hips my way, honey, there's nothing I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: ain't doing besides cracking it open. That's all I'm doing
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: around here. So I want to know about your sex life.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I want to die.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: 30 years old.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Lesbian.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's popping. Scissoring. All crazy. Compared to me, I can
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: guarantee I'm having more sex than you.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: It ain't a competition.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You got my dandruff.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's not a competition.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: You got my dandruff.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: But don't think people that are in their 40s aren't
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: having sex.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You're the one that's sitting here talking about if David
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: can get it up. And I'm just saying that people
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: of your age still can't.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: He is so much older than I am. How old
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: is he?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I think he's 60. He's two years.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Older than I am. That's different. Do not get it misaligned, honey.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Do not get it twisted.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm glad.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Anyway, back to that stupid game. I just like, please,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I do not want to imagine David struggling atop Christine
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: as she's biting her lip, enjoying- pretending to enjoy sex
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: with an old man she probably.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Does enjoy it though because she didn't get any with
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: cody and so she's like you're right she's loving her
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: life i mean she's talking about how she wants to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: have car sex and now i'm thinking about them having
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: car sex and then thinking and role playing and how
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: david wants her to role play and she's like cringing
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: She could be a clown he.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Could be a peanut the peanut man lord these people
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: are not sexy.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, he talked about wearing a maid outfit. And
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even want to think about that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: He's talking about a hall pass with Elizabeth Hurley.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Which I had to look her up. I mean, I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: know they showed her a picture in this episode.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: She's gorgeous.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got a long line of films and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: photographs in which she's definitely gorgeous. But I mean, why
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: would you mention that? Like, Christine didn't bring that up.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: We weren't on the subject of hall passes, I don't think.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, and she's already like an insecure person.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Very much so.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: And like she even was like, I don't even want
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to think about hall passes. But then she also had
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, no, Elizabeth Herdy. Like I totally
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: be into her too because, you know, like I'm kinky
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm freaky like that.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Because she's embarrassed because her husband had a hall pass
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and he came up with it like that. So that
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: begs the question, do you have a hall pass? Like
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: if you had a hall pass, if you could scissor
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: with anybody.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: With a saw. I'd have to really think about it,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: but I could name your daughter's hall pass as probably
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: like Rihanna or something. Or like Kristen Stewart. Kristen Stewart
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: is one. She's always like that. Really? You are so
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: rude with other people. Kristen Stewart? Well, you're not a lesbian.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I am not a lesbian. That's true. But I can
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: recognize beautiful women. And she is beautiful. She looks like
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: she stinks. That's so rude.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: She looks like she stinks. My hall pass.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: So now you're judging your daughter's preferences. My hall pass.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: is jason momoa which is obviously so gen x of
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: me but like only one iteration no two iterations of
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: jason momoa first is like when he surfs when he
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was a younger man and he was surfing and he's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: coming out of the ocean with his surfboard yes mama
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: all day every day slayed the house boots down and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: then jason momoa is called rogo i mean fair it
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was called rogo rogo yes ma'am my husband's hall pass.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I know who it is it's.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Anymore.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: He's got a crush on her though.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: For rum the substance. No, it's Jennifer Connelly. Do you
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: know who that is? Yes.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And it's basically, yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: But from the 90s. I know. From the 80s and 90s.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: She was very beautiful.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Of course she was. And that's also another one of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: your daughters she loves. She loves a brunette.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: She does love a brunette.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, green is close.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You don't have a hall pass?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: You can't even think of one. I can't even think.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You love a blonde lady.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I do love a blonde lady.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do have a hall pass.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It's Harley Quinn. It's Margot Robbie.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Ass Harley Quinn? She looks like she's stinky too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: You're so fucking rude. I'm just saying.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: You're judging our preference. Now you're judging.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not judging.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're like fucking, you're like Mrs. Hulk Hogan with
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the 30-year-old.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You have to follow us on Patreon to get that reference. Anyway,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: enough of David and Christine. I'm so over it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: No one cares that y'all are fucking. That's great.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And gross.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But we're done. We're done talking about it. And Christine
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: wanting to ride a motorcycle because she thinks it's exciting.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It's exhilarating.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: There's a reason they call them donor cycles.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yikes.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Be careful.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: But you've got to admit, a motorcycle rider is.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Can be.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Your husband used to ride motorcycles. Yes,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Ooh, on our second date, he showed up in his
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: little motorcycle and his little outfit and everything like that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why you fell in love with him.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it didn't hurt, honey. It did not hurt. But
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: he soon after sold it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you told him to.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Because it's dangerous.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Well, it is dangerous. It's a long fucking story. He
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: still resents me and he has every right to resent
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: me for that. But I just don't want to be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: married to somebody who's on a fucking motorcycle all the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: time and who can get a traumatic brain injury. Been there,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: done that. Anyway, moving on.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yike um all right so then mary and jen are
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: talking in her renovated kitchen about mary confronting christine about
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the fact that christine doesn't want to have a relationship
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: with her and she just wants to know more about
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: that and wants to clear the air with her because
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: if they're going to interact with each other in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: future with all of their grandchildren and great-grandchildren and all
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of the kids and everything mary has to be cordial
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and mary does talk about something like um She thinks
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that Christine resents her because Mary didn't stand up for
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: her at the knife in the kidneys conversation with Cody
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: because she was kind of sitting there with a stank
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: face and not saying anything.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Specifically when Cody was accusing Christine of not being good
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to any of her sister wives, but in particular Robin.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: As we recall, Mary sat there with this kind of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: smug expression on her face and she did not come
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to Christine's defenses. But here is another example of Mary
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: not taking it all the way and apologizing for what
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: she really did. Because those of us who watched that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: season remember Mary's subsequent talking head in which she told
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: us on the camera. that she was glad Cody said it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I do remember that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So she doesn't mention how she said that and how
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: she agreed, therefore, with what Cody was saying. So now
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you want to walk it back and pretend, oh, man,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think he should have said that and I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: really should have stuck up for Christine.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Uh-uh.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You agreed with him. Exactly. And you were glad that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: he did it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Talk about that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: After it was already filmed. Like, she's talking about in
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the actual moment, but it's like, you're right. She is
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: forgetting about the talking head that was filmed way after that,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: where she still had time to reflect and could have
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: stood up for Christine at that point in time, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: still chose not to. She doubled down. And so Mary's like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe Christine misinterpreted that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: You were pretty clear about your intentions and your loyalty.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I will say that Mary does... Reflect on it in
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a way where she's like, yeah, I was still loyal
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to Cody at the time. And, you know, I didn't
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: feel like I could say anything supporting Christine at all.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And that's, I appreciate that. But you're right. She isn't
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: fully owning anything. No. And she always has to make
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: an excuse for her behavior. Like she can never just say,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I was the one that fucked up and didn't verbalize it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It's got to turn into... well, I didn't feel like
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I could because I was loyal to Cody.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't easy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: It wasn't easy. Right. And my loyalty was to Cody
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and he would have been mad if I said anything.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And I was desperate and I was hopeful and I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: was thinking maybe I could get back together with him.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And so I was on his side. Like all of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: those things, saying those things out loud would go a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: long way probably to heal your relationship with these women.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But I guess not everyone is as emotionally involved as us.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Apparently not.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And then Janelle and Christina go line dancing, which was
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: fun or whatever. We should go line dancing.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: We would be really good at it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You know that my husband doesn't want to do it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Well, you and I could.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Neither does your wife.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But they will sit there and drink.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: They will.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: While we line dance.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And we would be so good at it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I'd wear cowboy boots.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I would look so cute.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: It would be fun.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: It would be really fun.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And then we have Janelle and Christine meeting up at
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: some clothing boutique store where Christine also gets her color analysis.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Done.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I can do one. I can do Janelle. I can
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: do Janelle's on an adventure. She's going to find a man.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I can't do two. I can't do them. We're doing
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Christine because we have nothing else to film.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. Well, nothing else that would be interesting.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: That's not interesting.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It's not interesting at all. And like Christine says, the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: same thing that Janelle did where she felt like she
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was frumpy and now she's trying to wear things that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: fit her figure and blah, blah, blah. And, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I have sympathy for that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I do as well.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That's great. And it'd be cool if we could expand
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: upon that aspect instead of just watching them go through
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: color palettes.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Which, I mean, can be interesting, but it's like interesting
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: on a show like What Not to Wear or, you
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Or Just Once.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Just Once. We don't need to see it in two different.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: In two episodes.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And then Christine also tells Janelle that she's going to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: go talk to Mary and Christine's kind of giving me
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: bitchy vibes in this scene because she's like, I don't
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: know what to expect. Like I'm a little worried. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: like with Mary, you don't know what you're going to get.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And maybe this comes from her past trauma with Mary.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And I understand, but like Mary is trying to talk
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to you in earnest. It seems like, so maybe just cool.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: It out and be a little kind. Have an, open
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: heart and a smidge of curiosity. You guys are in
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: your fifties.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: For me, I'm in my fifties. I've had relationships that
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: fell apart before. I've been very connected with people in
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the past. I don't know where they are. If I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: had the opportunity now to sit down and have tea
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: with somebody that maybe I had a falling out with
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: years ago, like I would be showing up with an openness. Also,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I would be willing to own my shit. I would
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: be coming to like take myself to task and to
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: put it all on the table and to be very real.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be going into the interaction already talking shit
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and shitting all over Mary and how she doesn't feel
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: good about it. Does she want to do it?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: No.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Then why are you doing it? Why are you putting
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: us through this when you don't even want to do it?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Like don't, and don't do that to Mary because she's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: showing up and she's really going to try and it's
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: making you look like an asshole. And there's a lot
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: of people out there that never liked Christine, that could
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: kind of see through Christine from the very beginning, that
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: are standing up now, especially on Reddit, and saying, oh
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: my God, thank God you all are seeing the woman
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: that I've been seeing this entire time. She's mean. She's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a mean girl. She's bullying Mary. I don't know if
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. But a lot of people feel
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that way. And I think that's why Christine ultimately had
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to make a video on her Instagram because people were
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: coming for that ass Beatrice.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Well, cause I think she thought everybody would be on
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: her side and it's like, no, Christine, you're kind of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: giving like high school, like mid twenties mentality, like very,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: like almost underdeveloped in terms of.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Like your development.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Like in terms of your perspectives on other people and
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: like how you show up in your relationships versus how
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: they show up. It like, To me, I'm watching this
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, if I'm in my fifties acting
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: like that, just take me out. Yeah. Put me in
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: an assisted living or something. Cause I'm obviously like not
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: thinking clear. Cause I feel like at that age, some
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: things just don't matter as much anymore. And, and they
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: shouldn't matter as much anymore. Cause if you're like still
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: holding on to stuff like that, it's like, man.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But the reason it might matter is because Christine has
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a vested interest in keeping the show going. in order
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to keep the show going, she's going to have to
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: be in the same room for these contrived scenes with
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: both Janelle and Mary. And so she's going to need
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to do something in order to facilitate that. But I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: almost felt like Christine went into this conversation looking for
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: opportunities to assert her boundaries because boundaries are so important.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And I found my voice. So I feel like there's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of that. But then of course, once
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: she gets there, None of that comes out. Maybe it
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: will next week.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really talk to her about boundaries. She talks instead,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: like I said, about Cody and Robin, which is their
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: common ground. Are they ever going to get beyond that?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Probably not. Okay. Which is unfortunate to me, but we'll see.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll prove me wrong next week. We also have
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Mary going on some speed dating event again, and it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: kind of a nothing burger.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Make it stop.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Like literally nothing happens here. I mean, I think she
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: gets some guy's number at the end, but we barely
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: see them interact and Mary again has to talk about
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: how her and Ron are just friends. And it kind
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of feels like maybe Mary really wanted to be more
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: than friends with him. And he was like, I'm not
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: attracted to women. But it's just, I don't know. I mean,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I want to see more like one-on-one dates with Mary.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see speed dating.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: With someone who wants to be there.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: With someone who's actually legitimately interested in her.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Who's not a paid actor.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: No, like maybe is actually falling for her. Like that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: would be, we've never seen Mary... With somebody who actually
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: loves her.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Who's like swooning for her.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And wants to take care of her. Like that would
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: be amazing to see.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: That would be great.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: This is not it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. And then the last part of
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the episode, which is like the last 10 minutes, which
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is Mary and Christine meeting for tea. And they kind
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: of set it up like it's going to be this
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: big deal. And it's really, it doesn't start off any,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: like in a bad way at all. I mean, we
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: do have like some commentary between or in Mary and
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Christine's talking heads, Christine's like, I don't know what I'm
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: going to get. I'm a little nervous about it because
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Mary can be kind of iffy sometimes. Whereas Mary's like
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: saying the complete opposite. She's like, I feel like with me,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you know what you're going to get. It'll be fine.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: And she's also coming into the conversation wondering what Christine's
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: real problem is with her because Christina said something like, well,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: she knows what she did. And Mary's like, actually, I don't.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the literal grievances and so maybe
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for you to tell me
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: do we think christine will i don't i don't think
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: christine knows.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: And mary does say something interesting she says you know
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: her and christine never really got along janelle says the
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: same thing they just never have really been friends they've
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: just tolerated each other for the sake of the family
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: and mary says anytime she's had a conversation with christine
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: in the past it's always been a well i'm better
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: than you and you're worse than me and that's how
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: it's always been with them and i'm just like wondering
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: who was having the power struggle there because Mary strikes
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: me as somebody who's really dominant, but also Christine is
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a bit domineering. And so I'm like, was Christine the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: one coming in with that energy or was Mary coming
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: in with that energy?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I can see it more with Mary, but I really
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. I do notice though, that Mary says a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: couple of times that she and Christine had a lot
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: of fun in the earlier years. And you can kind
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of see a little bit of that spirit In the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: earlier seasons, like when they're running and playing catch and
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: they're tackling each other and they do laugh together. So
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: you can see that they did vibe at one point
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and Mary is just wondering, okay, so like what actually changed?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: What's the problem? What did I do? And I think
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: according to Christine's book, it was the moment where Mary
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: yelled at McKelty for not having enough money or something
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: when she went to the store to buy candy.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Something like that, yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I forget what the actual story is, but- Mary yelled
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: disproportionately at McKelty and that was Christine's final straw because
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Mary had been yelling and screaming at these kids for
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: quite some time and Christine just was over it and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: she wasn't going to expose her kids to Mary anymore.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Which is fair and valid, but it's like that was
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: so many years ago. Like people change and you should
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: be able to give people the opportunity to change and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean you have to like be friends
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: with them or like even really forgive them. But like,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We're all on our own journey. We're
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: all on our own different path in life. And sometimes
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: it takes a little while for some people to learn lessons.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And you were in a cult.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Christine, you know that you were in a cult.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And you've subsequently left that cult. Mary was brought up
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: in the same cult, same as you. So can you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: just dig deep and find some perspective and see how
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: maybe she acted out in these ways because she was
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: brought up and indoctrinated into a system that caused women
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to be this way? Just like you were put in
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the basement. mary was put into a specific role that
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: she didn't necessarily know how to fill and like that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: should be a reason that you can make peace with somebody.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: And just at least understand where they're coming from yes
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and this is what i mean when i said earlier
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that christine reacts and acts from her own yes perspective
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: on things i don't think she ever really thinks about
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: how other people might feel and i'm not saying that
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: like in a psychopathic way i just don't think she
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: thinks about it like from other people's perspective or thinks
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: about oh maybe they acted this way because of xyz
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: that happened to them like she doesn't really have that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: capability and it's weird to me it's like in this
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: conversation with her and mary mary's the one that first
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: asks the question about christine setting that expectation from the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: knife in the kidneys conversation about how she doesn't want
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: to have a relationship with anybody really. And that it's
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: only going to be her and Janelle. She doesn't really
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: care about the other two. And Mary's like, you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: why did you say that? You know, you didn't really
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: give me an opportunity kind of thing. And Christine's like, well,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: at the time of that conversation, I really needed to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: set a firm boundary because I needed to figure out
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: who I am, what I am outside of this unit,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: outside of this polygamy and everything. And to Mary's credit,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Mary understands that. Mary like doesn't even put up a fight.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Mary's like, okay, I get it. I didn't really think
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: about it from that, but I understand. And then we
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: have Christine saying, you know, because she had to set
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: that boundary, she had to figure out who she was
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: and if she mattered or how she mattered to other people,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: because she never really felt like she mattered in her
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: relationship with Cody and in that family unit. And Mary says,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: it's really sad that all of us felt that way
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: at some point in time in our lives and this
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: is where christine has that little moment of reflection where
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: she's like yeah i always felt that way i never
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: thought other people felt that way how.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: And that's what that's what i'm like because later she
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: says you were treated so terribly That's literally the next thing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: She knows that Mary was estranged from Cody and treated
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: terribly by Cody and also Robin, but she never actually
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: cultivated the ability to feel for Mary.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Or anybody else.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Or anybody else.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Because she didn't even realize that Janelle would feel like
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't matter either. Like, this is what I'm saying.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Christine only thinks about herself, really. And then Christine asks
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Mary when was the moment that she knew she was
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: ready to leave because she was curious about it because
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: for Christine, she says, it started in Vegas when she
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: started realizing that things were unfair. Mary is surprised by this,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: which is kind of weird to me. Cause I'm like, Mary,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: this is when you had your fucking affair.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Catfish. Hello?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Like you were obviously depressed, like, but maybe Mary was
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: too consumed by her lust for Sam slash whatever her
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: name was.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Jackie. Jackie. And her wet bar.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And her wet bar.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, honey.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: That she just wasn't thinking about it. And then Mary says,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: which I thought was interesting. Um, She said she felt
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: like she always had hope that there would be a
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: new beginning because Cody always told her that there was
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: going to be a new beginning. But Mary does say
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that she got to the point where she knew that
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: it wasn't going to work out, but she became stubborn.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: because she knew that Cody was never actually going to
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: leave her because he didn't want to look like the villain.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be innocent. And Mary, as a stubborn Capricorn,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: was like, nah, I'm not going to let you have
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: that satisfaction where you're going to look like the innocent
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: party here. So I'm going to stay until you push
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: me away. So I kind of appreciated that little moment
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: of reflection because I think a lot of us, and
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: me too, I called Mary a little pathetic for how
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: much she simped for Cody. And how much she hoped
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: that things would get better between them because it was
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: very obvious to anybody with eyes that it was never
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: going to happen. But it sounds like Mary knew. But
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe she's just retconning it. I think she's covering a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: little bit for how potentially desperate and pathetic she was.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: But it's okay that she was that way. It's okay
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: that she truly wanted to somehow rekindle that relationship with
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: her husband. Like that's good. That's normal. Like we can
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: all understand that. That the fact that there might have
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: been a little bit of a motivation to kind of
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: stick it to him because he wanted to blame her
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: for their ultimate demise. Like I get that too, but
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I think 90% of it was because Mary wanted to
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: find a way with Cody.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah. Ultimately. And then Christine... tells
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: mary that she was grossly mistreated and mary does thank
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: her for validating her experience in that way and i
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: thought that that was a really good moment and then
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: christine and her talking head says that mary and cody
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: especially in the beginning of their relationship were terrible to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: each other and that they were equally yoked which i
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: can see that.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: But that's also kind of mean to say why Because
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: she's still digging at Mary. She's still saying Mary was
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: a terrible person to Cody and Cody was terrible to her.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But like, it's just another opportunity that she's taking to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: take a jab at Mary.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I guess I can see that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: That feels like to me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like, I mean.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: If it's true, it's true. It's true.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, if Mary was terrible to Cody, like I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: know we all hate Cody, but like maybe there was
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a period in time where she was getting into him.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We weren't there in the days of
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the trailer. No, we were not there. And then Christine
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: also says after the legal divorce, that was when there
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: was a definite separation between Mary and Cody where there
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: was a complete shift in their marriage where they basically
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: weren't even really married to each other anymore. Mary tells
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Christine that we all know Cody had one sole focus,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: which was Robin. And this was interesting to me that
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: they don't really know when Cody and Robin actually met.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Because Mary says she always believed the story that they
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: met when they drove past like a neighbor's house or
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: something like that. But then Cody and Robin and they
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: show the flashback. when they were at Salsa Brava or whatever,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: that Cody and Robin were talking about meeting at church.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was actually really interesting that the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: wives don't know the beginning of their relationship.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: And this is where Christine says, I knew I was
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: being lied to. Like I could tell there was something
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: going on, but to learn how much I was manipulated
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: and lied to is really devastating. And I feel like
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: they're hinting here at, a bigger manipulation, like that Cody
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and Robin met well in advance of bringing Mary into
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it and making Mary believe that she was the one
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: who came up with the great idea to get them together,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that they had met, that they had talked and communicated.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe they even dated a little bit and then they
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: brought her in.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what it felt like.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: It feels like an affair. Yes, it does. And then
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: they kind of masked it. As polygamy and, oh, I'm
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: courting a fourth wife.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: How convenient.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. But it really does feel like an affair that,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought that was a really
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: interesting tidbit there.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And here again, I need more of that. I need
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: More of that. Yeah. And then the episode ends with
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Christine saying, I hate how gullible I was and how
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: naive I was. And Mary says, we weren't gullible. We
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: believed in the family and we were committed to the
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: family that we created. And we were committed to the
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: idea that Cody loved us. And so I thought that
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: was kind of cool that Mary's like, no, no, no.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Like don't dog on yourself too much. Like we all
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: were sold a vision of, And a dream. And it
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: turned out to be shit. And then we have the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: preview for next week where we have Mary telling Christine
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: that she owes her a big apology because she felt
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: like she was a big jerk. And it's specifically about
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the knife in the kidneys conversation where Mary just sat
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: there and didn't do anything. Christine tells Mary in the preview,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I understood why you didn't say anything because you still
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: had hope. And then we have Christine, Mary, and Janelle
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: meeting up to melt down their rings, which I... I'm
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: kind of looking forward to that. Sure. Not going to lie.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll talk some shit while they're doing that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: But we'll see. Yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: So overall, I say again, I mean, I'm kind of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: enjoying this. I think that the good stuff is being
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: reserved for the final 15 minutes of the episode. But
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the other stuff leading up to it, I think, is
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: entertaining enough to keep me on the hook. I am
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: enjoying this.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will maintain my perspective from earlier. I
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: really like seeing them all together or like seeing one
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: of the wives hanging out with the other. I'm not
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: a fan of watching their separate lives because if all
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get is like color palettes and line
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: dancing and sex games, I'm bored.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we're about to meet Pete.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Which I'm excited about.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm excited to see Janelle go on her romantic
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: journey with a new person.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I know me.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Why did you fall in love with this person? What's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: so great about Pete? I want to learn about him.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: And I am also interested to see Mary go to
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: different cities and check them out. I wonder if she's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: going to go see Leon and go to Denver.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: See if she likes Colorado. And maybe she goes to Chicago.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe she goes down south.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe she comes to North Texas.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. By us.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And we could make friends with Mary.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: That would be great.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I would love to see a little bit of that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: And then with Christine and David, here's where it ends
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: for me because I don't know where these two go.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're interesting at all. We're kind of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: played out already about your great love story. We've seen
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the wedding special. We saw the run-up to the wedding.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I'm bored. I don't know what else Christine can bring
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to the show that That keeps me as interested in
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Janelle and Mary. Yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is David, honestly, because he's annoying.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: He is annoying.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: And so I really hope that Pete, Janelle's man, is
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: going to be like a more likable person.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Because I think David is just not really likable personally.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I just, I'm not a fan. Yeah.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: There's just, you know what?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Watching that Instagram video, live that they did he just
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: kept and we're gonna again cover this on patreon so
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: i'm not gonna talk too much about it but he
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: just kept interrupting her and talking over her and she
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: was kind of trying to explain why she was so
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: triggered i wonder what she would have said in the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: energy of that if she had had the space to
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: actually communicate but he kept like stepping on her toes
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: i'm like dude shut up You're mansplaining Christine's feelings about
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: her own life in this moment. We don't need this
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: interpretation from you. You're like the Christine whisperer. Like Robin
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: is the Cody whisperer. Like we don't need the second party.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Like let the woman talk. My God. Plus whenever you talk,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: you're dumb as fuck. Shut up. Like it's word salad.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: People are not succinct people. They can't just communicate and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: say how they feel. They've got to dance around it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm sick of it. I'm just ready for him
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Like I'm over him. That's my thing.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what they can do, Christine and David,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to make the show more interesting.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I think they're trying to.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Besides divorce.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Dang. That's horrible.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I don't, I'm not speaking that into existence. I'm just saying.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Like maybe have marriage problems or something. Like how can
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: they not though? You guys know, but how can you
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: not have marriage issues because she married him in like
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: three or six months or whatever it was and this
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: man brings a lot of baggage and trauma into this relationship.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Christine has huge amounts of baggage and trauma. You cannot
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: tell me that this is not showing up in their
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: relationship in a day-to-day way. Like if we were to
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: get glimpses of their real struggle, As opposed to this
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: scripted bullshit that we're getting currently.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: I think that would.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Be interesting to see how Christine really does deconstruct. from
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: her religion, from her mindset of polygamy, because like all
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: we really got was a tattoo on your titty, honey,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: to be the emblem of your deconstruction. But we never
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: really had the conversation about that. And you just married
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: this guy and now we're supposed to believe you're perfectly happy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think you are.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And if you could bring some of that to the table,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I think it would be interesting.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to because, of course, they
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: don't want their real struggles on TV. They want what
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: they want on TV. So they're going to manufacture drama.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's what Christine and David are trying to do.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And that's why they're annoying to me because it's like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: you have enough real drama that you could give us,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: but you don't want to because you want to have
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: your manufactured crap to keep us on the hook. But
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I can see that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: We all can see i can see it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: like this puppeteering that they're doing this manufactured reality but
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  Speaker 1: it's by it's being generated by dumb people but if
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  Speaker 1: you're if you're not dumb like i believe a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us i feel like we're really smart that's why
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  Speaker 1: we're in the dumpster together i feel like we're not
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  Speaker 1: dumb and we've been watching fixated on this family for
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  Speaker 1: so long like we know the lore like you can't
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  Speaker 1: pull the wool over our eyes so easily you gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell the truth and honestly i If you want this
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  Speaker 1: show to keep going, and I feel like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of these women really want it to keep going, you should.
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  Speaker 1: Pull the cover back, honey. Pull the curtain back and
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  Speaker 1: tell the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Be authentic.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, peace out after season 21.
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  Speaker 2: Facts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's all I got. I ain't got nothing more.
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  Speaker 2: Me neither.
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  Speaker 1: So Beatrice, is there anything else that we need to
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  Speaker 1: say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on
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  Speaker 1: out of here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a solid.
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  Speaker 2: Go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a
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  Speaker 2: glowing five-star review.
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  Speaker 1: Five!
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  Speaker 2: Really helps us grow the pod so more people can
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  Speaker 2: join us in the dumpster. We would really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be back later this week because we
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  Speaker 1: had quite a few of you call into the SpeakPipe, speakpipe.com
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  Speaker 1: slash realitytvcringe. to give us your opinions on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And so we want to hear them and we want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about them. And then, of course, we'll be
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  Speaker 1: back next week to continue our recaps of Sister Wives.
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  Speaker 1: Until then, please do not forget that we truly have
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  Speaker 1: nothing but love for you. And peace out.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Bye, guys.