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Animals in a Former Life, TNF & The Primer | NFL Week 12 Betting Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by Draft Kings. The crown
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  Speaker 1: is yours. We are an Action Network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz,
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  Speaker 1: and the crew is back together once again on this
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  Speaker 1: fine Tuesday morning. Kendram Middleton the Prime Minister of Degenerate
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  Speaker 1: Nation Stucky. On today's episode, we are planting flags for
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  Speaker 1: week twelve, our official Thursday Night football preview, Bills versus Texans,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the main event Evans Tuesday primer Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: domination on Monday Night Football. Not a lot to go
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  Speaker 1: off of from that game. But Kendra, how do we
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  Speaker 1: do on the Monday Night football parlay?
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  Speaker 2: I had a horrible week, a horrible weekend. Our parlay
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday miss because of me. I just it's a
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  Speaker 2: tough time. It was a tough time.
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  Speaker 1: We are here for.
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  Speaker 3: The genty catches.
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  Speaker 2: I was impressed with, though, I have to say, how'd
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  Speaker 2: you do?
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  Speaker 1: Stucky?
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  Speaker 4: The genty catches? So genty reception yard's over but nothing big,
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  Speaker 4: boring game of the boring primetime games. Quite a run?
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  Speaker 1: Did the Raiders make a mistake with genty at six? Overall?
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  Speaker 1: Are we ready to make that proclamation? One point two
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry? Last night. He really hasn't gotten going.
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  Speaker 1: This year's had a couple of nice games, But do
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  Speaker 1: you think they would do it over again? Stucky?
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  Speaker 4: It's the Raiders, so probably. I mean, I would never
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  Speaker 4: take a back at six, That's just me. But you
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  Speaker 4: can't put it all on Gentem And the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: has been a disaster. It's they lost Colton Miller, they
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  Speaker 4: lost Powers Johnson, like their two best offensive linemen, and
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  Speaker 4: even when they had everyone healthy, it was a disaster.
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  Speaker 4: The offensive play calling is bad. Not sure what you
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  Speaker 4: Kelly's doing. So I wouldn't put it all on gent
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  Speaker 4: but just I mean not just to go based off
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  Speaker 4: last night. I just would never take it back in
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  Speaker 4: the top ten. They have so many other glaring needs
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  Speaker 4: that it's so much easier to address running back than
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  Speaker 4: those other needs that they have. So yeah, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have done it from the jump, and I would imagine
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  Speaker 4: that they would if they could go back. They wouldn't,
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  Speaker 4: but who knows what that organization.
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  Speaker 1: We live in a value based world as sports betters,
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  Speaker 1: and there is no matter how much you like a
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  Speaker 1: running back, they'd have to be other worldly. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean we've had we've seen some great ones come out
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  Speaker 1: of college. Ashton gent of course put up some ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: numbers of Boise State, but it's hard to justify for anybody,
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  Speaker 1: even the mccaffreys, the Adrian Peterson's. It's just hard to
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  Speaker 1: justify that sort of draft cost. And now you know,
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  Speaker 1: you see where would they be worlds better if it
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  Speaker 1: was a dB instead of a running back. Not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: but you know that Genti's doing nothing for this team
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  Speaker 1: right now. Neither is their head coach. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Carrold not likely to survive this lack of effort,
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  Speaker 1: lack of consistency. Defense has always been the calling card
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  Speaker 1: of his teams, and these guys are getting caught out
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  Speaker 1: of position routinely. Kendrick, if you were running the show
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  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, would you pull the plug on the
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  Speaker 1: old man?
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  Speaker 2: No? I wouldn't because I think going into this season
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't really like a higher for long term. It
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  Speaker 2: was more so just let's hire him, get through the season,
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  Speaker 2: start this rebuild.
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  Speaker 3: It was a tough coaching cycle too.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they're probably going to have maybe the
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  Speaker 2: pick of the litter now that Brady's more involved, more
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  Speaker 2: hands on. By the end of the season. I think
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  Speaker 2: you write it out with him. You don't embarrass him,
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  Speaker 2: you let him retire. There is no way that it
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  Speaker 2: was ever the plan to keep him around long term.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you fire him. I think you just
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  Speaker 2: write it out and you know, hang your hat on
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  Speaker 2: whatever you can.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the season, I was I will
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  Speaker 4: say though, with backs going in the first round, Like,
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  Speaker 4: obviously I'm not a fan of it, but I mean
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  Speaker 4: it didn't work out for the Chiefs either. If they
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  Speaker 4: took a cloud of Alra I believe in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, you had the Lions take Gibbs, get
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  Speaker 4: a lot of jet forward that worked out. The Falcons
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  Speaker 4: took Bijon. He's like the one of the strengths of
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  Speaker 4: their team right now.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it comes down to infrastructure? Like those
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  Speaker 1: guys are great, but if you don't have the pieces
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  Speaker 1: set up to allow them to succeed, especially and you
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  Speaker 1: can say that about almost any position, but especially a
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  Speaker 1: running back without the line, without a good play caller
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  Speaker 1: on offense, it just doesn't matter. Christian McCaffrey, I think,
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  Speaker 1: is a really good example of this because he put
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  Speaker 1: up great numbers in Carolina. They didn't. They weren't built
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  Speaker 1: to have Christian McCaffrey really impact their wins and losses.
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  Speaker 1: The forty nine ers. Are you mentioned Gibbs? The Lions
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  Speaker 1: were built to have Gibbs succeed if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: that infrastructure.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're finishing.
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  Speaker 2: That's what running backs are. They're finishing pieces. Look at
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  Speaker 2: Saquon on the Eagles, like that's why they got him
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  Speaker 2: is because they could afford the fancy, expensive finishing piece
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  Speaker 2: that would push them over the edge what a running
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  Speaker 2: back is.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely and Clyde Edwards Hilaire is the kind of the
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  Speaker 1: that was just a bad pick. He just turned out
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  Speaker 1: to not be a good NFL player, but they would
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  Speaker 1: have fit that sort of mold. Jonathan Taylor, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: went a couple of picks later in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: but they wish they had that decision back. Three double
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  Speaker 1: digit spreads this week. We also have Chiefs, Cults, Cowboys, Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: Bucks Rams. If we were grading the week, that is
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  Speaker 1: in front of us, So we've got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: bets to throw out there for you for betting in general.
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  Speaker 1: As a football fan, Kendra, how do you grade Week
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  Speaker 1: twelve as you look at the slate.
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  Speaker 2: I think it sounds really enticing because I think we're
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  Speaker 2: going to learn a lot of like who these teams
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  Speaker 2: who we questioned throughout the year are kind of this
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  Speaker 2: week like the trade deadlines coming gone. People who have
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  Speaker 2: been traded have, you know, kind of started to assimilate
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  Speaker 2: into their teams. Some coaches have been fired. You've got
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  Speaker 2: at least a game under your belt for some of
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  Speaker 2: those teams. And also some of these guys have to
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  Speaker 2: start looking ahead at a short week next week. So
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  Speaker 2: is our teams going to look ahead? Are they going
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  Speaker 2: to show up? Are they going to game plan properly?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it too much going on and you're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna find your water. I think we're gonna learn who
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  Speaker 2: both the Bills and the Texans are this week. I
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  Speaker 2: think we're gonna probably learn a lot about the Bears
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  Speaker 2: and the Steelers. You could talk about the Colts and
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Vikings, Packers. Those are the games that I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at where I'm like, Okay, who are you guys?
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  Speaker 3: Same?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, same with the Panthers in the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: Ers too. You could say the same about the Bucks
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  Speaker 2: and the Rams. Are you built for right now? Or
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  Speaker 2: are you built for the long term? That's that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to learn a lot about a lot of teams
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  Speaker 2: this week.
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  Speaker 1: Then we usually right around Thanksgiving is when the contenders
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  Speaker 1: and the pretenders start to separate, and we've got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of them that are going head to head. We
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  Speaker 1: have a couple of tenders that are going up against
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  Speaker 1: teams that are absolute bottom dwellers. That's where the double
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  Speaker 1: digit spreads come from. Stucky, As you look at the card,
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  Speaker 1: is it easy or difficult to come up with some
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  Speaker 1: plays that whether you've already, whether you're already on them,
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  Speaker 1: or you're gonna wait until later in the week. Does
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  Speaker 1: this look like an easy or difficult week to gauge?
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  Speaker 1: As far as bets that you're gonna like.
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  Speaker 4: Normal week, I mean, there's some bets that I like
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  Speaker 4: that I placed. As far as what the week overall,
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  Speaker 4: it's not the greatest of the card. I mean. The
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  Speaker 4: funny thing is all the NFL has all these rules
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  Speaker 4: to protect quarterbacks and to prevent injuries, and every year
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  Speaker 4: we just get a ton of injuries at quarterback. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this week we have what maybe Stroud Stroud misses his
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  Speaker 4: third straight game. We have Rogers who could potentially miss
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  Speaker 4: We have Burrow who's still out. We have I mean
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  Speaker 4: Wentz for the Vikings. Maybe they go back to them.
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  Speaker 4: He's out for the year.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way Kyler is going to come back dark
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  Speaker 3: is he out?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that might have been a soft bench of Kyler's done.
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  Speaker 4: He's on ir You have Gabriel for the Browns concussion.
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  Speaker 4: So like across the board there's the quarterbacks. Jets gone
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  Speaker 4: with a quarterback change, so we have some.
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  Speaker 3: Poor justin field.
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  Speaker 2: I like my I don't often feel like sorry for
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  Speaker 2: professional athletes because they're like young millionaires and he's living
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  Speaker 2: in New York City as a young millionaire or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel so I feel so bad for him.
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  Speaker 2: His career has like hurt my feelings for him.
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  Speaker 1: He has not done himself any favors with his play.
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  Speaker 2: But yes to to lesson good nice guy, but.
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  Speaker 1: To lessen the emotional load. I think he has another
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  Speaker 1: twenty million guaranteed to him, or at least twenty million
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed from signing him.
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  Speaker 3: His age is a baller, so.
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  Speaker 1: He can he can buy expensive tissues to wipe his tears.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is another one. He's down for the season
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  Speaker 1: at least. That he's most likely down for the season
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  Speaker 1: is the official report, but that means Kirk Cousins gets
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  Speaker 1: another crack being the starting quarterback. Did we see enough
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  Speaker 1: from Cousins in the loss to Carolina to buy some
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  Speaker 1: Falcon stock? They take on the Saints this week, stucky,
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  Speaker 1: How do you see.
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  Speaker 4: It enough from now? I mean Cousins, he's completely done.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen him twice. We saw him get blown out
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  Speaker 4: at home by the Dolphins, one of the worst defenses
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. We saw him last week, didn't go well,
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  Speaker 4: and that whole game changed when Pennis got hurt. And
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  Speaker 4: I mean he finished six or fourteen for forty eight yards.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's not going to get it done indoors. Now
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  Speaker 4: you don't have London, and I mean I played some Saints.
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  Speaker 4: I played some Saints early. I still would play the
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  Speaker 4: Saints now. It's also just a horrendous So the Falcons.
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  Speaker 4: They still have some injuries on defense, we'll see the
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  Speaker 4: status of those, but their offensive line isn't fully healthy.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's no Drake London, who's essentially the focal point
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  Speaker 4: of their entire passing attack. You don't have Penn So
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  Speaker 4: who hasn't been great, but it's way better than Cousins,
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  Speaker 4: who's I think is completely toast.
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  Speaker 1: Now do you think the spread drop off is from
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: we're talking about individual player values. That's one that's been
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  Speaker 1: tough for me to gauge, just given where judging Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Cousins coming in and mop up duty versus him actually
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: getting a full week of reps and knowing that this
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  Speaker 1: is basically the last chance in his career to have
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity like this. I do think we see a
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  Speaker 1: better version of him more.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we saw that against the Dolphins. We saw
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  Speaker 4: that against the Dolphins and they scored seven points at home.
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  Speaker 4: Then it was thirty five to seven at home when
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  Speaker 4: Cousins started, Like so, we've seen him start a game.
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  Speaker 4: We saw him last year just give games away. It's
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  Speaker 4: now now, granted, like Pennis hasn't been. He's been very
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  Speaker 4: inconsistent the entire year. And I can tell you what
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  Speaker 4: I have him more than the spread hold on.
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  Speaker 2: He's just more athletic though. That's what he brings to
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  Speaker 2: the table that Kirk doesn't. I once he if you
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  Speaker 2: actually watch and consume football, I think that you knew
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  Speaker 2: his career was over once he left Minnesota, like there
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  Speaker 2: was just never gonna be an offense, a team or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that that was gonna fit him better or
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  Speaker 2: be able to make him more successful.
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  Speaker 3: And after an.
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  Speaker 2: Achilles' injury, like you just can't make plays like you
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  Speaker 2: used to let it alone. The fact that for a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback year old, like his career was over when he
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  Speaker 2: left Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Some arm strength too, as I mean, that's a big
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  Speaker 1: drop off when you talk about the ability to drive
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  Speaker 1: it down the field. Well did you find right now?
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  Speaker 4: But they're so poorly coached too, and I don't think
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: Morris is gonna survive this. But the spot, like and
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: I thought Shuck showed some good things in Carolina, So
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  Speaker 4: I actually think that ultimately he's an upgrade over Rattler.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he might be Okay, he might be good.
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  Speaker 4: The Saints can stop the run too, Like now you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have cousins. I don't think it's going to go
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  Speaker 4: off with the Spot on paper. You have the Falcon
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  Speaker 4: the Saints coming off of by which I think will
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  Speaker 4: serve shock well right, like new Starter gets two weeks
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  Speaker 4: to work with the offense and the Falcons are coming
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  Speaker 4: off back to back overtime losses to fall to three
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  Speaker 4: and seven and now won't have London Panics a fully
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  Speaker 4: healthy offensive line. But it's just dreams are crossed, like
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  Speaker 4: their season's over for three and seven in the NFC,
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  Speaker 4: like they're not going to the playoffs. It's over. So
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  Speaker 4: like do they get off the mat? I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Saints are the side.
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  Speaker 1: Cousins has lost six in a row against the spread
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  Speaker 1: as a starter, so I think you guys are spot
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  Speaker 1: on on your read. I wish that this spread did
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  Speaker 1: not flip. The Saints were plus one and a half
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  Speaker 1: at open they're now minus one and a half. This
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  Speaker 1: would do it.
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  Speaker 4: I got some two and a half so on DK.
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  Speaker 1: Right now it's minus one and a half. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's I guess if you want the Saints, you got
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  Speaker 1: to get in on it now. I wish that they
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: were dogs. I would tease this so fast, but of
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  Speaker 1: course that window appears to be closed. Also, some new
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  Speaker 1: that just came in. No surgery for Aaron Rodgers. He's
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  Speaker 1: trying to play on Sunday, so I guess the fracture
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  Speaker 1: is not so bad that he can't play in their
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  Speaker 1: upcoming game. You get the Steelers at Chicago to take
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  Speaker 1: on the Bears. Bears minus three. Stucky, you continue to
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  Speaker 1: fade this Bears team, and it's just they are pulling
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  Speaker 1: rabbits out of a hat. So I don't know if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go back to the well and the plant the
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  Speaker 1: flag at the end of the episode, or maybe just
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  Speaker 1: avoid the Bears altogether.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I let me see, I've Bears Bears. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've only faded them. Let's see twice this year,
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  Speaker 4: played them twice. I had the Ravens against them, and
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  Speaker 4: then I had them last I had the Vikings last week,
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  Speaker 4: and McCarthy was just an absolute disaster. Now I have
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  Speaker 4: no interest in this game. Really, we'll see on Rodgers.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Bear turnover luck is not going to
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  Speaker 4: continue forever. I mean, they're at an historic clip. Last week,
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  Speaker 4: they get two more interceptions. They were the right side,
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  Speaker 4: they got two interceptions. There was a fumble that they
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  Speaker 4: went over their heads near the goal line that could
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  Speaker 4: have flipped the game that they recovered. And I mean
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  Speaker 4: they lead the NFL and turnover EPA. On defense, they
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  Speaker 4: lead the NFL and turnover margin. They lead the NFL
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  Speaker 4: in interceptions. The defense can't do anything except get turnovers,
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  Speaker 4: which are very fluky, and there's probably going to be
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  Speaker 4: looming regression there. But it's not like the Steelers have
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  Speaker 4: been great. Their defense isn't great. The Bears should be
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  Speaker 4: able to run on them. The one thing that the
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  Speaker 4: Bears are doing really well is their their run game
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  Speaker 4: is cooking. Kayla Williams is making some explosive passing plays.
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  Speaker 4: It's not an overly efficient passing attack. I do think
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  Speaker 4: he bails from the pocket a bit too early at times.
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  Speaker 4: But their offense is playing well. It's just their defense
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  Speaker 4: has been so bad. Is the Steelers offense the unit
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  Speaker 4: that's going to fully take advantage? I don't know, Like
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  Speaker 4: what how healthy is Rogers if he plays, there's.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of It's the toughest game for me this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I want no part of that.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm scared it. It scares me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's just I don't as of right now, change
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  Speaker 1: throughout the week. But I don't see an angle here
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  Speaker 1: for this one. That one thing I am troubled by
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  Speaker 1: a trend that I'm seeing in college end in the
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: NFL is players spitting on other players. Kendra, we have
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  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase the latest to be suspended for a spitting situation.
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  Speaker 1: He spit on Jalen Ramsey, you boy, and and he's
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  Speaker 1: a spread mover. With no Jamar Chase, that line is
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  Speaker 1: certainly I mean, I think we'd probably be at like
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  Speaker 1: Patriots minus seven and a half. It's at eight and
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  Speaker 1: a half right now against the Cincinnati Bengals. But why
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  Speaker 1: does this continue to happen? Kendra?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, T Higgins fantasy owners please rise. However, sorry,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: before I answer this question. In a fistfight, who do
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you not? We're an anti violence podcast, anti violence. In
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: a fistfight, who do you think would win? Between Jamar
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and Jalen? Everyone answer?
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  Speaker 1: I would probably go Jalen. Ramsey's got that nasty and
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: DBA a little tougher than receivers.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with that too, Stucky.
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  Speaker 4: Always say the d back over wide receivers, who are
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  Speaker 4: usually a divas. The one exception is I would have
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  Speaker 4: taken I might have taken Evans over Latimore, which is
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  Speaker 4: the old rivalry. This might be the new one, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think I would take where I would take.
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  Speaker 2: I would also Ramsey's the only option here.
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  Speaker 3: I just what what floors. Me about this is that
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  Speaker 3: if you knew you did it, and you.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Know that there are cameras absolutely everywhere, why lie about it?
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Literally? Why lie? When he was doing his postgame presser
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and he was just.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Like, I didn't spit on anybody, and then he doubled
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: down on it. I just I don't I get that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: You can't say that you did it because the fact
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that he lost like what half a million for this too,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's insane. He gotta find a game
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: check and his bonus or something. I think it was
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: like upwards of six hundred.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: K, Like that is a that's an expensive spid.
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  Speaker 2: I would never say. I don't think I would spend
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  Speaker 2: on anybody for that amount of money.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Uh So keep that out of her DMS please, Okay
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: those that are listening. Yeah, the only case for Chase
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: in the fist fight would be speed, because he's much
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: faster than Jayleen Ramsey and that does matter.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, if you're fist fighting, what are you
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: running for? Don't be a coward?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I just mean like hand you know hand speed?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, But does that translate?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I think Jalen to Florida State days would come out
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and I'm not even kidding. Talent Nasty, the talent Nasty.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Kendra, Status update from you say something weird?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So I was talking to David before this show.
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  Speaker 3: I got a coffee, as I.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Do before every show that we do, and I was
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: pouring my milk into my coffee and I was triggered
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  Speaker 2: to my dream last night where I turned into a cow,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: but I was still like I had my I had
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  Speaker 2: Kendra's brain, but I could only see and was existing
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in a cow's body.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a crazy dream.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And it got me thinking about how well if I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: were like an animal in a past life, or like
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: an animal identify with, what would it be? And it
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: would absolutely be a squirrel, because I know that I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was a squirrel in a last life.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Because think about it, I'm so adhd.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I can eat so much food for my size, could
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: totally carry that in my cheeks. I could hibernate, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: could sleep for an entire winter, no question. I am cute,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: but I will also fuck you up. And you never
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: know if I'm going to run into the street or
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to last minute juke you out.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: You never know. You never know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So if you believed in reincarnation and you were another animal,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: what would you identify as?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I think I would have been a rooster. I have
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: always been an early riser, and I'm significantly louder in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the morning than i am later on in the day.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And that's not just because I have a six year old,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Because now the way I wake up ridiculously early, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: it's mostly because of him. But even before that, when
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had a hard time sleeping
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in so sster most likely, but I kind of dig
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: farms that you know, the jokes.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Are right there. I'm gonna let them go, though, Stucky.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: What would you identify as?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Uh, probably a giraffe. They only sleep. They sleep like
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: thirty minutes a day, so they take like brief power
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: naps while standing up and uh and.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: They only stand in their neck out for you.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I think they sleep like three to four hours a day.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: They take they just like it, take thirty minute naps
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: here and they're standing up and that's basically me during
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: football and basketball. So yeah, I'd come back as a
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: giraffe and.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Kind of baller. And nobody hates diraftes. Like do they
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: have a predator?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Lions? I would imagine.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I think the lions hunt giraffes.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lions, hyenas they can get them because it's it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: hard for them to like if you can just you
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: can just take down their legs, right, it's hard for them.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: To kind of oh shit, they get eaten by a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: lot of shit lions, hyenas, leopards, wild dogs, crocodiles.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, once they get older, Once they get older and
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: like they're kick, they're done. They just get they'll just
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: get taken down.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: They're massive. That's crazy. They also give it when they
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: get older, or there were the babies.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: That's that's it, that's it. They probably get.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: You also get like crocs that can like jump out
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: of the water and get them. I've seen videos of that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: When I was in Costa Rica, i learned that sloss
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: when they give birth, sometimes the loss just like fall
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and hangle by their like hanging in the trees by
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: their umbilical cord for a while.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I've seen that before. But by the way, durress when
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: they're like in their prime age. One of one of
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the ways that they one of the ways that they
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: protect themselves from predators is they can run. They can
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: run up to like forty miles an hour or something.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Swear Google how fast where's the production? Google how fast
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: drass can run? It's something crazy that you would never think.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You would think that thirty seven miles per hour at
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: maximum sprint. They're eighteen hundred no, a female eighteen hundred
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: pounds and a male's twenty six hundred pounds.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: That's a that's like a car coming at you.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, going forty miles an hour. So I like that.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I'm well, once they get older, they can't run as fast,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: and then they break down and then they're easy to get.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: But yeah, they have predators. But yeah, it'd be cool.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: No. I think if Josh Allen was an animal in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: his prior life, he would have been a buffalo. Bill.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: They take on the Texans on Thursday Night. Bill's minus
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: five and a half total, sitting at forty three and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a half. Thursday Night Football a fun game for Thursday night.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It should be. At least you have Josh Allen, who's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: sitting with the third shortest odds for NFL MVP, the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: league's top defense, Houston allowing sixteen point three per game,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and they are an under team of course because of it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Their average combined score in their games thirty eight point three.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So maybe just look there. But early, look, how do
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: we see this one playing out? I think I would
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: lean Bills early, but I'm not in love with it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I would like to bet the Texans, but there's just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to steal a phrase from one Stucky the degenerate himself.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of injuries tot worry about, right.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I assume that Stroud is going to be out.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Has that been confirmed this Yeah, I mean like it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: gonna be hard on a short weekend in practice last week.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: But it is funny that Stroud and Mills at the
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: same amount of wins this year. But obviously Mills has
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: benefited from the crazy comebackgainst Jags and playing the Titans.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: They've barely won both of those.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Twist the knife, fine, I'm fine.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So Nico Collins is on the injury report. They've got
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a couple of defensive Yeah, I.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Don't think Stroud's gonna play. And yeah with that with
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Mills now against the Bills defense, it's the Texans still
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: can't figure out their goal line offense. Oh my god,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I want to pull my hair out whenever I watched
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the near the goal line. So this short week, on
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: these Thursday night games, I look for reasons not to
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: bet the team. I mean, I would have liked to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: have Stroud in their healthy catching over a field goal
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: against the Bills. The Texans defense I think can give
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Allen issues. They gave him issues. He probably had one
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: of his worst games down in Houston two years ago.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I forget the last Sun Buffalo played in Houston.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But I don't know because if Will Anderson is actually hurt,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: they don't have like their defensive ends are put like
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta Yeah, I think it's bills are passed. What
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: about you, Kendra, I.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Also think it's bills are passed.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: If CJ plays, I'm definitely gonna get to the window
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: on the Bills. I'm just hoping for those couple extra points.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I don't love it or hate it at the five
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and a half. Their injury is just disgusting, and I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: get the big argument about the Bills right now is
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: like who's scoring for them? Because it's nobody, but like
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they have to be on a warpath kind of seem
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: like they are. It has to be bills or nothing
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: for me here, just because the Texans are just beyond.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Like they have. There's who is healthy for them.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a lot of injuries in their defense
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: worth watching, which is concerning. So yeah, I fact where
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the current prices, it's it's.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Wrong many dollars in this economy.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't either if you want to grab the
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: bills now with the anticipation that dragets ruled out, but
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: you have Petrie too. Who's Petrie? Who's important as their nickel?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: But they have some defensive line injuries, linebacker, offensive line,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: you know obviously Nico Collins popping up. I just don't
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: think Strout's gonna go. So when that gets announced, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: might see another uptick on the bills. So if you
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: wanted to grab it before a semi key of six,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't blame anyone. But this is not the game
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 4: Shut up, I'm trying to plant my flag here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you really planned your flag in that dext hendro.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Where are you planting the flag this week?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I know that I bullied this team on our Sunday show,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm not ready to not bully them, but I'm
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: gonna not bully them this week. And I've never, i
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: think never ever done this.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But this is a Jags podcast.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going with the Jags this week, and it better
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: not bite me in the ass because I'm terrified the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Cardinals suck. Like they're a bad team. I'm ready to
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: say it. Like they're frisky, they're feisty. You can say
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: all the things that you want to about them. However,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the Jags are getting healthy, they're getting players back. Hunter
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Long coming back for the Jags this week.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Believe it or not. If I'm not mistaken.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: He's tied for leader of touchdowns on the Jacksonville Jaguars
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: right now, which is crazy because this is his third
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: team since he was drafted out of BC and none
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of those teams were ever able to find a spot
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But he's clicking in this Jacksonville offense somehow.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen called the game of his life last week,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and he'll fit right back into this.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I think Bachial Touton is going to go, so that's helpful.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Anton Harrison is going to be playing, Jordan Lewis is
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: coming back.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: This team is getting healthier this week. I I love this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a good go for
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: everyone all around against a bad team.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Get right spot for that. It's not even to get
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: right spot for them.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: They just beat the crap out of the Chargers, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a get right spot for the guys who haven't been
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: playing in a couple of weeks.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Good team to do it against.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I think you're stupid at this number if you're not
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: looking at Jacksonville.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So I have not again.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Last week, you didn't want any part of the Jags.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: No about them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: On Sunday you said they sink they they're a bad team.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: She's drawn on her own team. Let her have fun.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: No, I lit you guys, they're a bad.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Team that you are a lay points with on the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: road that you can to get right.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Saints this week, yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Something, I'm fading the Falcons. But I also think that
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: the Jags were good last week.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I don't think that they're good. I think Trevor Lawrence.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Someone on Twitter called him a guppy faced bitch, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's a bitch.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: But now that they've said the guppy thing, I can't
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe our Jags are in trouble now Kender's back in
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: on them.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I had the worst week of my life last week.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't hit a single bet, which I was due
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: for a bad week.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: It was my first losing week of the entire season.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Grabbits, if you were here Sunday, I was going to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: give you an apology for having the craziest cakes ever
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that somehow worked out.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So man, I'm sorry that I missed that. It's that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: would have been fun.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to eat crow when I have to.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely not I'm definitely not the type of person
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: who can't take criticism or a joker feedback.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: So you guys, you guys really gave it to me
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: last week and I'm happy to take it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you all called me fucking crazy, but you know
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I was, You are fucking crazy. I was watching the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Magic lose to the Rockets in overtime, so unfortunately I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: was not able to make the Sunday pod. But you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: guys did a phenomenal job. Here's my issue before we
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: hand out hours for the fellas, my issue with the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: with fading the Cardinals here was, okay, they they're in.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They're in bounced back mode. They got blown out last week,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: so typical spot fit. You know, follow the team that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: just got blown out. The reverse happened to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They just had the best game imaginable against a good team.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Now they travel out West to take on a Cardinals
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: team whose stock is horrendously low, and you're not even
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: like it. We're not even probably gonna get the three
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on this. This is to me, this is Cardinals teaser
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gold up to eight and a half.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Going to play. Who is Marvin Harrison even gonna play?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Do they need him? Michael Wilson went wild last week.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett is engineering this offense tremendously.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Did he go yeah and he's still lost.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: No, it's extad four turnovers. They got a kicker turn touchdown.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I think they out gained the Joneses.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Their offense wasn't the issue last week that had five
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: hundred dards offense. They held the and the forty nine ers.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: They got a bunch of turnover short fields. The Cardinals
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: fumbled going into the end zone. They got a kickerturn
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: for a touchdown. They had two turnovers.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Saxonville is back.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had three. I would look at the Cardinals.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: But Cardinals plus two and a half, big Jacks fan,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I knew you would do.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: This to me.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I am going to fade the Cats this week after
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: they were profitable to me last week. Cardinals up to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: eight and a half, Niners down to one against the Panthers.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: That'll be my teaser of the week, not my official
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: plant the flag, but if you wanted to know where
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I was going to go with that, Stucky, what about
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you plant the flag?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Cowboys plus three and a half, mainly
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: because I make this slightly under three. I think it
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: closes the three and this Eagles offense continues to be broken.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: They can't get margin on anyone I mean Jared Goff.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Last week, the Lions went zero five on fourth down.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: They had a turnover at the goal line, three turnovers
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: in their own territory, a turnover at midfield. Goff, with
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: his glove, couldn't complete a pass. He was two of
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: eighteen at one point, if not for a phantom flag
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: on a made up penalty, would have gotten the ball
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: back with a chance to tie the game or win
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: it if they made their extra point due to a celebration.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: The Eagles can't get margin on anybody. Their offense is
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: broken now. No Lane Johnson. He has been so important,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: and the Cowboys defense looked better. They're gonna be better
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: against the run with some of the reinforcements they added
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: obviously with Williams and with Wilson getting over shown back
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: like they'll be better against the run now. Their pass
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: defense is still vulnerable, but no Lane Johnson, the Eagles could.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: They can't throw it every week. They hurts in this offense,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: especially really struggle against zones. Oh that's what you're going
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: to get against Egra flu So. I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: good matchup. You're going to get this. The Eagles defense
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  Speaker 4: is trending way up the addition of Phillips getting some
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: guys back healthy, you know, Fangio after the buye. All
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: of those things are true, and the Eagles defense looks
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  Speaker 4: completely dominant. But this is the Cowboys, and they're electric
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  Speaker 4: offense at home where they're usually trustworthy. I think they
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: can keep this close. Most likely outcome is probably an
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Eagles win by a field goal and run out the
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  Speaker 4: clock with like a thirteen minute drive at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the game. So yeah, I like the Cowboys do
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  Speaker 4: anything over a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: We think Jamison william celebration should have been a penalty.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, technically it is in the rule book. I
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: think the the goalpost is considered a prop.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's so lame.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no fun.
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  Speaker 3: No fun League strikes again.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys plus three and a half. I like that. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: might end up on that myself. You talked me into it,
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  Speaker 1: so no pushback on that one. I am going to
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  Speaker 1: go with the Kansas City Chiefs minus three. They fucked
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  Speaker 1: us last week. I would have been up seven plus
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: units last week if the Chiefs had just won. That's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: all I needed was for them to win the game,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. But can't hold grudges in
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: this betting life. At least we should try to not
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: hold grudges. They are not if they don't cover this week.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only bet that I have placed so far
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  Speaker 1: absolute bet jail, bet jails. This is a game for
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: them to avoid bet prison. So this is this is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a big one. My numbers spit out minus four. The
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: market says minus three right now. The market read as
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: far as the juice on the three says that this
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: is probably going up to three and a half. Colts
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: off the buy Chiefs off a bad loss five and five.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: The talk around that team the Chiefs is doom and gloom.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: The Colts are the new darlings. Everybody loves them. Everybody's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: selling chief stock right now. And then, schematically, Steve Spagnola
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: should be able to confute confused Daniel Jones. He's gonna
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: send creative blitzes. Daniel Jones was sacked seven times against
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the Falcons in a neutral site a couple of weeks ago.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Now you go into Kansas City, where they're effectively playing
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  Speaker 1: a playoff game here. So I will take the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: and lay the points before it gets to three and
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  Speaker 1: a half.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even talking like we're putting them in jail now,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: we are locking them up in.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Fucking federal prison. They are dead to me.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Even though I have them not to make the playoffs
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: long term, I can't know.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Holt also hasn't been the same out like, not in
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: perfect conditions, right, they're going to be Like you look
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: at all their games leading up to the past two
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: weeks where Jones turned backed into a pumpkin. I mean
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: you look at his pressure to sackarate, his turnovers. They
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: were all basically in Indy or in so far. So yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: he's he's got that look to him again that Giants
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: look where it's dazed and confused, dazed and confused, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: his sack numbers are way up. It's you know that
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of the league has seen what this offenses
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: look like and has made some adjustments as well. And
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Jones is back on pumpkin watch. So yeah, it's I'm
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: around this number. But yeah, the or has gone on
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. But I do feel like like JT could
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: have a big day.
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  Speaker 1: That is what I worry about that I think that
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: this doesn't get home. It's because Taylor went wild.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: The discourse on him is as the MVP has gotten
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: a little sexier, though, I will say.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: He's in consideration. I think he'd be if I had
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a top four, he'd be in that for sure. You know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Stafford and may have done their thing. Josh Allen's performance
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: this past weekend was enough to slam him into the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: top three, which he is.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I think you can lose to the Dolphins and be
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: the MVP. I'm sorry.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Six touchdowns though, three on the ground, and he to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Terrell Shavers. I'd never even heard of this person. Jaggs
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: plus two and a half for Kendra Stucky is on
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, plus three and a half against Philly, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm laying it with the Chiefs minus three against the
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cults. Those are our Plant the Flag games presented
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  Speaker 1: Evan Abrams. Evan, welcome to the show. If you were
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  Speaker 1: an animal in your past life, what would it have been?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Very simple.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a cat.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, one hundred percent of cat. I kind of
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: just linger. I have lots of opinions. I say very little,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: but when I talk people tend to listen. Sometimes that's
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: pretty much a cat. Next question, all right, do you
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: have a cat? I had a cat. She unfortunately passed away,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: but I had a cat for sick No, no, you're fine,
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: You're fine. I had a cat for sixteen years. Cats
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  Speaker 5: are the best rescued, fantastic.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: But yes, well, okay, yeah, we have to we have.
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  Speaker 4: We have two rescues and then one baby from one
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: of the rescues that wander around here with our dog.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: And there, my dog's afraid. My dog's big, seventy five
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: pound piple that's afraid of all of them.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I'm allergic to cats, but I'd have thirty seven of
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: them and be in jail for hoarding them if I wasn't.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Yes, my second cat. I had a cat in college
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: named Poopie Murdoch. He was fantastic and then and then
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: rest in peace to Parlayuh.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: So BARLEYO, oh my god, going to rename my cat
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to Parlay.
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  Speaker 4: That's great, that's those are amazing. We have Ricky Maaler
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: and Hank just he's just Hank. He just looks like
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: a Hank. He's the only black cat. He was the
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: run of the litter and I just said that's that's Hank.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: We have to keep him and Nico Tesla, that's right.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: And then our dog dog is Pete Rose. So those
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: are amazing names.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Ricky Mewler is fire.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Nip your game up out there, people, Those are some
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: amazing names. All right, Well, let's get to the primer.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen one of the top MVP candidates facing one
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of the top defensive units on a short week. Don't
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: know if that's too specific. There, we've got Mike Tomlin
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback potentially, I until you've got numbers
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: on that, and the Chiefs favored by three against the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: team that's eight and two off of a bye. What's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: your favorite so far? Most primer?
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I feel like you got to start with Thursday night
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: football because you guys talked about it a little bit.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: But Bills have lost five straight out right in Houston.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen starter in three of those games, so a
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: little relevant.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: When was that last one? Was that two years ago? Yeah?
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: I believe so two, two or three years ago? But
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: three of those were Allen and scoring twenty points or
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: fewery in each of them in the three losses, so
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: a little struggled bus The thing that's crazy and Stuck
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: brought it up, and I feel like since it is
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: a primetime game, but Texans goal line struggles absolutely ridiculous.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Thirteen carries this year inside the five, the Texans have
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: the total of zero rushing yards and one rush touchdown,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: so literally can't go anywhere and no idea what to do.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: So those to me are the storylines for Thursday night Football.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: But to me, the actual storyline the biggest thing to
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: look at this week of the Panthers, I mean truthfully,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: playing in primetime for the first time in two years,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: and this year they've got six wins as underdogs in
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: their first eleven games, which is tied for the most
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: for any team since nineteen ninety. To me, they are
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: the story most profitable team on the money line, Like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: lots of good story lines are there, and they get
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: San Francisco in a primetime game, so that one should
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: be fun and.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: One other one forty Brandon.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: So double digit favorites, you got a bunch this week,
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: you said, Ravens, Seahawks, Lions. Interesting enough. So last three
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: seasons double digit favorites thirty five and twenty six fifty
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: seven percent. They're eight and five against the spread this year.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: This will be the first time double digit favorites above
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: five hundred three straight seasons in the Super Bowl era.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: We have yet to see it happen, and we are
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: currently seeing it in the last three seasons. So we
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: will see how those two teams, those three teams performed
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: this week. But huge road favorite with the Seahawks right
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: thirteen and a half. We'll see what happens there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Who's your favorite favorite among the double digits Lions, Ravens, Seahawks.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: If you had to lay one right now, Evan.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Interesting, I probably say the Giants. I know it's probably trendy.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, Lions covered thirteen in a row off of
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: the loss, but that also to me feels like the
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: best bounce back of the crew. Like I actually think
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Tennessee has a little bit of a shot. Maybe how
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: crazy I am in that one, but I think the
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Lions is an easy one, Like the Giants can be
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: beat so bad and at the end of the game,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's a run upper, like they'll just
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: it's in the it's inside just Lions.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: To me, do you think that number is going to
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: get any better or do you think it's going to
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Probably stay about there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, looking at the market right now ten and
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: a half, I feel like closer to Sunday it'll go.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: But I think right now, I think it's just hanging
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: like it's about sixty percent of tickets. Maybe it goes
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: to eleven, but not much higher than that, at least
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: not till Sunday.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: What about Cowboys Eagles history?
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: The only thing you really got to know the only
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: thing you really got to know there is Eagles wearing
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: these Kelly green jerseys. So you're gonna see it everywhere.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: But they're undefeated in those, but they rarely wear them
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: on the road, is what I've seen. I believe it's
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: been like thirty years since they've done that, usually a
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: home deal for them.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: But we're gonna get those. We're gonna see those stats
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: on the broadcast.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Thirty one and thirteen against the spread. Only quarterback better
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, there is definitely something there with
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Dak in this but also as an underdog. You don't
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: get that too many times with him in this division,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: But that to me is probably the storyline there. I mean,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: Philly's won three straight versus Dallas, but you know that
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: hasn't happened since two thousand and three and four, which
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: is kind of odd.
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  Speaker 3: I have a question about this game.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I get you can't and look ahead spot in division,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: but do you think that they're looking ahead at all?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: With Kansas City and the Lions on deck? I mean,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: their schedule coming up is really tough. They've got Kansas City,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: the Lions, the Vikings at home, and this Vikings team
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: isn't the team that we thought they would be at
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: this point in the season.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Chargers have hit a little bit of uh. They've They've
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: started to kind of pick their game up. They're getting
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: healthier as the season's going, and then the Commander is
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: on December twenty fifth. It's kind of their next real,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: maybe easy game. Do you see this as like a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: look ahead at all? I know, like I said, you
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: can't have that in division.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: But I mean no, there's the super Bowl champs. They
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: need every game they can. I mean the cow was
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: essentially after like almost went out to get to the playoffs.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: So yeah, this is at home reigning super Bowl champs
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: their rival. They're not looking they don't care about the
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: five and five Chiefs. They're not going head to that game.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Chiefs.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It's hard to not look ahead at the Chiefs though,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: even if they are five and five.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: No, they're not. They don't care.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: This is their biggest rival, their.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Biggest game of the year at home against the Eagles
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: who just won the Super Bowl. This is by far
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: their biggest game of the year. Like even if they
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: were out completely out of the playoff picture.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: They definitely care about the Chiefs at home on Thanksgiving.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And you're not going to tell me otherwise, But I
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. I care.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying they're not. They're not worried about that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: This week there will be solely focused on the Eagles.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I don't like the Cowboys need every game, like I.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: One more loss might do them in. I will say
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: the Houston the Texans, bill's going the last time. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: just remember the last time they played. It was the
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Sean McDermott terrorist game. He all the terrorist memes were
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: out because the Bills. The Texans punt was tied at twenty.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: The Texans punted to them, and they had the ball
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: at the two yard their own two yard line with
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: twenty seconds to go, and they you could take knees
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: and go to overtime. But he threw it. They threw
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: it three times against that defense, three incomplete passes. They
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: took four seconds off, like four seconds off the clock,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: and that they had a punt and the Texans obviously
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: got like they like field the punt. It's like the
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: forty and then they kicked the fifty eight art A
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: got Win McDermott was I've never seen anything worse. That
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: was the last time they played their twenty three twenty
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  Speaker 4: Texans win.
• 45:12
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