Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 7/14/26: AIPAC Deploys Obama Ads In Michigan, Bryce Harper FanDuel Scandal
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- 0:33Speaker 2: So we wanted to turn to the Michigan Senate Democratic
- 0:37Speaker 2: primary where Haley Stevens the establishment Darling is up against
- 0:42Speaker 2: Abdul Alsaiah, the left wing insurgent, and there's a new
- 0:46Speaker 2: tactic being deployed from Stevens and Steven's allied groups to
- 0:52Speaker 2: make it seem like maybe kind of sortis she was
- 0:55Speaker 2: endorsed by Obama. Let's go ahead and take a look
- 0:58Speaker 2: at one of these ads.
- 1:00Speaker 1: My husband worked at Ford for forty one.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Years, my father worked with General Moltors for thirty years.
- 1:05Speaker 1: And when they came for our auto jobs. Ay Stephens
- 1:08Speaker 1: stood up.
- 1:09Speaker 2: She was chief of status to President Obama's Auto Rescue and.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Hailey Stevens, by the way, she was a critical part
- 1:15Speaker 3: of my team that helped the American auto industry come
- 1:18Speaker 3: rolling ball.
- 1:19Speaker 1: That's say, two hundred thousand Michigan jobs. She helps say,
- 1:23Speaker 1: jobs for my own family.
- 1:24Speaker 4: If President Obama trust her, so do I Stronger Michigan
- 1:28Speaker 4: is responsible for the content of this ad.
- 1:30Speaker 2: President Obama trust her, and so do I. Stevens has
- 1:35Speaker 2: millions of dollars ten more than tens of millions of
- 1:37Speaker 2: dollars flooding into this race on her behalf from a
- 1:40Speaker 2: variety of superpacks, including some that are backed by a pack.
- 1:43Speaker 2: This is a mailer that's going out to homes around
- 1:46Speaker 2: Michigan that says similar quotes. Hailey Stevens was a critical
- 1:50Speaker 2: part of my team that helped American auto industry come
- 1:52Speaker 2: roaring back President Barack Obama.
- 1:54Speaker 4: Detroit Free Press opinion.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Black Michiganders will help decide Michigan's US Senate primary. This
- 1:59Speaker 2: one is from one of the APAC allied super packs,
- 2:03Speaker 2: and you've had Michigan voters who are taking in this
- 2:07Speaker 2: content assume that it means that she is fully endorsed
- 2:10Speaker 2: by Barack Obama, which she is not. He has not
- 2:14Speaker 2: endorsed in this race. Of course, he could pipe up
- 2:16Speaker 2: and make that clear. He has chosen not to do
- 2:18Speaker 2: that at this point. But in any case, you have
- 2:20Speaker 2: some voters who are saying that, you know, I'm going
- 2:25Speaker 2: to vote for Hailey Stevens based on these ads. Let's
- 2:29Speaker 2: go ahead and put the first part of D two
- 2:32Speaker 2: up on the screen. This is one couple that was
- 2:34Speaker 2: quoted saying that President Obama is the reason they're voting
- 2:39Speaker 2: for Haley Stevens.
- 2:40Speaker 4: Quote.
- 2:40Speaker 2: They put a lot of money behind Haley. We don't
- 2:42Speaker 2: know a whole lot about him being Abdullah Sayad. I
- 2:45Speaker 2: asked about APAC. The mill said, they are not anti Israel,
- 2:48Speaker 2: but what's happening in Gaza is a genocide. So these
- 2:50Speaker 2: are people who ideologically align with Abdullah Sayad, but Barack
- 2:56Speaker 2: Obama's word means so much to them that they are
- 2:59Speaker 2: you know, they are voting with the person who was
- 3:01Speaker 2: not ideologically aligned with them because they have been basically
- 3:05Speaker 2: tricked into believing that Obama that's it.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a classic strategy by many politicians. I've
- 3:11Speaker 3: seen it with Trump as well, where somebody Trump will
- 3:14Speaker 3: endorse somebody like in twenty twenty and then they'll actually
- 3:17Speaker 3: he won't endorse them in twenty twenty four, but he'll
- 3:19Speaker 3: be running their endorsement back from twenty twenty, like the
- 3:22Speaker 3: previously Trump endorsed candidate who is in this race. So
- 3:25Speaker 3: it's not like it hasn't happened before, but it is
- 3:29Speaker 3: very obviously being boosted by titanic amounts of money. And
- 3:33Speaker 3: that's that's part of the reason why we're even covering it.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Is the amount of money in this primary is shocking,
- 3:40Speaker 3: like tens of millions of dollars. Some of it appears
- 3:43Speaker 3: to be a pack, but a lot of it seems
- 3:45Speaker 3: to be more institutional interests as well, So it's like
- 3:49Speaker 3: pro corporate all of these other influences which are in
- 3:53Speaker 3: this state. The part that really stuck out to me
- 3:56Speaker 3: was Gary Peters, Can we put D six up here
- 3:59Speaker 3: on the screen? He previously said he's a sitting senator,
- 4:02Speaker 3: He's the person who she is running to replace. He
- 4:05Speaker 3: previously had said that he was going to sit out
- 4:07Speaker 3: of the entire primary. He's like, Oh, whoever wins, we'll
- 4:10Speaker 3: let him win, and it appears now that Elsaiad is
- 4:14Speaker 3: coming at least within striking distance. It seems to be
- 4:16Speaker 3: tied in the polls here with Hailey Stevens. That he
- 4:19Speaker 3: has come out and explicitly said I'm all in for
- 4:22Speaker 3: Hailey Stevens, and even his announcement makes it clear that
- 4:26Speaker 3: this Obama thing is part of their strategy.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Quote.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Haley began her service to Michigan as a critical part
- 4:31Speaker 3: of our team as President Obama and I fought to
- 4:33Speaker 3: save two hundred thousand jobs, rescuing and helping the auto
- 4:36Speaker 3: industry come roaring back. I'm proud to have Haley was
- 4:39Speaker 3: recognized as a most effective Michigan Democrat in Congress. So
- 4:43Speaker 3: they are leading heavily back on that auto bailout from
- 4:46Speaker 3: twenty ten to boost her chances. In her previous association
- 4:49Speaker 3: with Obama, the last Democrat really to win the state overwhelmingly,
- 4:54Speaker 3: which shows part of the problems I think for the
- 4:57Speaker 3: Democrats in terms of actually trying to turn this sea.
- 5:00Speaker 3: You know, uh, solidly blue this time around. For slacking.
- 5:03Speaker 4: I mean, she barely won want it, but it was close.
- 5:06Speaker 1: It was very close.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yeah, clot can want it, but it was fairly, fairly close.
- 5:10Speaker 4: I think she might have outperformed by.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Actually because he lost. He lost the state of Michigan.
- 5:14Speaker 4: She won, but didn't you won the state of Michigan.
- 5:19Speaker 2: While you're looking that at there's another element of this.
- 5:21Speaker 2: We didn't pull this particular screenshot, but at the same
- 5:24Speaker 2: time they're trying to suggest, like, oh, this is Obama's candidate.
- 5:28Speaker 2: The UAW United Autoworkers have endorsed Abdul, and they're also
- 5:33Speaker 2: some of the super PACs backing Haley are also trying
- 5:36Speaker 2: to suggest that she's the candidate of the auto workers,
- 5:39Speaker 2: even though the actual autoworkers endorsed her opponent, and the
- 5:42Speaker 2: UAW actually had to issue a cease and assist to
- 5:45Speaker 2: one of the super PACs that is backing them because
- 5:47Speaker 2: they used the uaw's logo in election ads that were
- 5:52Speaker 2: promoting a candidate not endorsed by the union. So this
- 5:56Speaker 2: is the sort of tactics and if Abdol loses like
- 5:58Speaker 2: this ploy will have been successful. I think the other
- 6:01Speaker 2: thing is it's a testament to how popular Obama remains
- 6:05Speaker 2: in the party that they feel that he is the
- 6:07Speaker 2: best validator that she could possibly have, especially with black voters.
- 6:11Speaker 2: I do think that his word continues to be very
- 6:13Speaker 2: powerful in the party. He's still one of the most
- 6:15Speaker 2: popular politicians, if not the most popular politician in the
- 6:18Speaker 2: entire country. So even though I have my feelings about
- 6:21Speaker 2: the disappointment of Obama, many other people do as well. Overall,
- 6:25Speaker 2: broadly among sort of noormy voters, he still has a
- 6:29Speaker 2: lot of popularity. This race also pits him de facto
- 6:33Speaker 2: because of these quotes that Hailey Stevens is pulling from
- 6:36Speaker 2: the past versus Bernie Sanders, who actually did endorse Abdul,
- 6:40Speaker 2: and that Abdul has been featuring in his ads. Bernie
- 6:43Speaker 2: Sanders being probably the second most popular politician in the
- 6:46Speaker 2: entire country, so there's an interesting dynamic there as well.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Bernie has always done really well in Michigan. That was
- 6:51Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen when he's running against Hillary. That
- 6:53Speaker 2: was sort of like his miracle comeback. He wins the
- 6:55Speaker 2: state of Michigan, it seemed like maybe he had a
- 6:57Speaker 2: shot at getting the whole thing. In any case, he
- 7:00Speaker 2: has only grown in popularity in the state overtime.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump did win Michigan barely in twenty twenty Oh no, sorry,
- 7:07Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.
- 7:07Speaker 1: That's what I was talking about. First lock in because
- 7:09Speaker 1: she won.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Oh okay, I got you. But in twenty Biben one, okay,
- 7:14Speaker 2: all right, we were with it.
- 7:15Speaker 3: We were talking about it was actually very close. It
- 7:17Speaker 3: was like two percent back in twenty twenty. Whereas if
- 7:19Speaker 3: you look at the twenty sixteen or sorry, the twenty twelve,
- 7:22Speaker 3: in the two thousand and eight margins, it's crazy how
- 7:25Speaker 3: much Obama, how much Trump flipped the map overall, I
- 7:29Speaker 3: do think, you know, to the Obama point, this is,
- 7:32Speaker 3: this is fascinating. I do not understand why this man
- 7:35Speaker 3: still has so much affection in the Democratic Party. To me,
- 7:40Speaker 3: it's all vibes based, because you know, empirically he chose Hillary.
- 7:45Speaker 1: She was a total disaster.
- 7:47Speaker 3: He told Biden, who was still cognizant at that time,
- 7:49Speaker 3: not to run, even though he might have been able
- 7:51Speaker 3: actually to win the election whenever his brain was still
- 7:55Speaker 3: not completely all mush. His legacy is the election of
- 7:58Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and nobody can look back at the time
- 8:01Speaker 3: period and say, well, even though we had all these
- 8:04Speaker 3: nice vibes of hope and change, the fact that it
- 8:07Speaker 3: was immediately you know, that immediately was followed by the
- 8:10Speaker 3: Trump era means things were not all hunky door and
- 8:14Speaker 3: yet simply because I think he's rhetorically articulate, that's and
- 8:20Speaker 3: you know, I guess like overperformed dramatically in two thousand
- 8:23Speaker 3: and eight that all these Democrats are like, oh, I
- 8:25Speaker 3: long for Obama.
- 8:27Speaker 4: You know, I think it is.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I think it's because of objectively a bad presence.
- 8:30Speaker 4: I think it's for a couple of reasons.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Obviously I agree with your anasis, But if I have
- 8:34Speaker 2: to put myself in the shoes of like why people
- 8:36Speaker 2: have this nostalgic yearning for him, which in some sense
- 8:39Speaker 2: I do kind of feel because he represents the pre
- 8:42Speaker 2: Trump era.
- 8:43Speaker 1: So it's like the age you don't long for Obama.
- 8:47Speaker 2: But I'm not trying to explain it like rationally, but
- 8:50Speaker 2: in terms of people's sense of things, right, because I
- 8:53Speaker 2: agree with you if the fact that Trump comes immediately
- 8:56Speaker 2: after Obama is kind of an indictment of Obama, and
- 8:58Speaker 2: nobody ever talks about that, but that is real In
- 9:02Speaker 2: any case, I think there's the sense of like politics
- 9:04Speaker 2: were simpler, they were more aspirational. There's this kind of
- 9:08Speaker 2: sense of the pre Trump era that comes along with
- 9:12Speaker 2: the feeling of what Obama is has projective and then
- 9:15Speaker 2: you also have like you said, very very talented, very charming, funny.
- 9:21Speaker 4: You know, he's got all the things.
- 9:22Speaker 2: And him being the historic first black president, you know
- 9:25Speaker 2: obviously that carries a lot a weight with a lot
- 9:27Speaker 2: of people, but especially with black voters. And so you
- 9:30Speaker 2: put all those pieces together, and even though it jars
- 9:33Speaker 2: me crazy that he barely ever pops up and does
- 9:36Speaker 2: politics at all, it's like when he wants to crush
- 9:40Speaker 2: a left wing insurgency, that's when he you know, pipes
- 9:43Speaker 2: up or does something behind the scenes, like when he
- 9:45Speaker 2: made sure to line up all the ducks so that
- 9:47Speaker 2: Joe Biden could get through ultimately and crush Bernie Sanders.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Even though that irritates.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Me, the fact that he has remained kind of above
- 9:56Speaker 2: the fray and doesn't dive into every political issue of
- 9:59Speaker 2: the day, I think also gives him a bit of
- 10:01Speaker 2: a halo with the population.
- 10:02Speaker 3: I think I kind of get it because I have
- 10:04Speaker 3: this problem with a lot of Republican friends. They've like
- 10:06Speaker 3: worshiped Reagan, and I'm like, guys, like Reagan was you know, sure,
- 10:10Speaker 3: he was nice, like he was in you know, he
- 10:13Speaker 3: spoke well he was very charismatic, the whole jelly beans thing.
- 10:16Speaker 3: But then when we look at the issues that they
- 10:18Speaker 3: purport to care about, from immigration or neo conservatives or
- 10:21Speaker 3: tax fall.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, what about this, what about this? What
- 10:23Speaker 1: about this? They're like, oh, I didn't really know any
- 10:25Speaker 1: of that. I'm like, yeah, it was really bad.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:27Speaker 1: So I'm like, why do we still have architects worship.
- 10:30Speaker 2: The architect of the horrors that we're living through now,
- 10:33Speaker 2: Like you can go back to Reagan with almost everything.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And so I'm like, well, I'm like, why
- 10:37Speaker 1: don't we worship Nixon? But Nixon was bad. I'm like, well,
- 10:40Speaker 1: what about that?
- 10:40Speaker 3: You know, I talk Environmental Protection Act, that realism, you know,
- 10:43Speaker 3: in terms of his relationship with big government, the post
- 10:46Speaker 3: Eisenhower Republican Then a lot of them are like, oh, yeah,
- 10:49Speaker 3: you know, it does seem like Nixon really aligns much
- 10:52Speaker 3: more with my politics than Reagan, and yet they feel
- 10:55Speaker 3: this immense, like this immense affection for Reagan simply be
- 11:00Speaker 3: because he was deeply charismatic, which is, you know, kind
- 11:03Speaker 3: of the ultimate problem I think with a lot of
- 11:05Speaker 3: our politics. But yeah, if anything, my message to a
- 11:07Speaker 3: lot of these Democrats, It's like Obama's hold on the
- 11:10Speaker 3: Boomer mind is unbelievable, like the way that they worship
- 11:14Speaker 3: the ground that he walks on. When it's like, if
- 11:16Speaker 3: you look at the trajectory, even having lived through it,
- 11:20Speaker 3: also having seen what came after, it's like he was
- 11:23Speaker 3: not good at actually put fulfilling any of the things
- 11:27Speaker 3: that he wanted to do. Like from two thousand and eight,
- 11:29Speaker 3: if you actually look at the overall record from the war,
- 11:32Speaker 3: bailouts everything, they lost the House majority, you know, yeah,
- 11:36Speaker 3: and Obamacare is a horrible product.
- 11:39Speaker 2: And that was the big signature item. Like when you
- 11:41Speaker 2: think of Obama, you think of Obamacare obviously, and I
- 11:44Speaker 2: think at this point everybody knows that it was not enough,
- 11:47Speaker 2: that the.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Problems with it, et cetera.
- 11:49Speaker 2: But it'll be an interesting test to see if this
- 11:53Speaker 2: works in Michigan, and it might. I will say, they
- 11:57Speaker 2: really they tried to kind of similar playbook with Daria
- 12:00Speaker 2: Liza Grinned you knows, New York City is very different,
- 12:03Speaker 2: but they thought that her saying f Kamala Harris would
- 12:07Speaker 2: be the killer blow for her. They like they really,
- 12:11Speaker 2: you know, they sent out mailers, you know, especially and
- 12:13Speaker 2: there's a large black community in her district, went out
- 12:16Speaker 2: to all those people and it didn't work. She won
- 12:18Speaker 2: black voters in the district, so it may be a
- 12:21Speaker 2: new day for this stuff.
- 12:22Speaker 4: And also there you had.
- 12:25Speaker 2: You know, her directly criticizing Kamala Harris.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Here.
- 12:28Speaker 2: The best they have with Abdullah Sayad is he one
- 12:31Speaker 2: time said that Michelle Obama's move campaign was well intentioned
- 12:34Speaker 2: but ineffectual, which Apac is also, which is true and
- 12:39Speaker 2: has a public health professional he understood at the time
- 12:41Speaker 2: and continues to understand. But in any case, they're running
- 12:44Speaker 2: that as an ad also to try to be like see,
- 12:46Speaker 2: he doesn't even like Michelle Obama, so we'll see, we'll.
- 12:49Speaker 4: See if it works.
- 12:51Speaker 2: There is he is getting dramatically outspent by a superpower.
- 12:54Speaker 3: That's why Steve Brant, because you shouldn't discount it is
- 12:57Speaker 3: in that stick. Because I remember looking at as polling
- 13:00Speaker 3: wildly popular with young people still neck and neck or
- 13:04Speaker 3: underwater whenever it comes to seniors and guess who votes.
- 13:06Speaker 3: The median primary voter is like fifty five years old.
- 13:10Speaker 1: So this is the system that we have.
- 13:12Speaker 3: That's part of the reason why he said we should
- 13:13Speaker 3: freeze property attacks one of the most naked, disgusting political
- 13:17Speaker 3: gambits I've ever seen.
- 13:19Speaker 1: But everyone was like, Oh, this fucker wants to win,
- 13:22Speaker 1: so I catch that's what you need to win over.
- 13:25Speaker 1: I guess if he gets.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Screwed over, and even though he bent the knee to
- 13:28Speaker 3: the old lobby, I will never let him live it down.
- 13:31Speaker 1: All right, let's get to gambling.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Turning now to gambling, the Philadelphia Inquirer has come out
- 13:39Speaker 3: with a new investigation involving a fan duel gambling whale
- 13:42Speaker 3: named Terry Thompson, who is suing the company saying that
- 13:45Speaker 3: they enabled his gambling addiction. I've talked previously extensively about
- 13:49Speaker 3: how these gambling companies have VIP hosts, which shower gifts
- 13:54Speaker 3: aka you know, losses that are converted into making you
- 13:58Speaker 3: feel better about yourself. In one of these gifts, FanDuel's
- 14:02Speaker 3: VIP host named Britney reached out to the MLB star
- 14:05Speaker 3: Bryce Harper and got him to record a video for
- 14:09Speaker 3: the habitual gambler Terry Thompson, who eventually lost millions of
- 14:13Speaker 3: dollars on the platform and had police had to come
- 14:15Speaker 3: into his home to prevent him from committing suicide. So
- 14:18Speaker 3: with all of that being said, let's take a listen
- 14:20Speaker 3: to the Philadelphia Inquirer's investigation into this.
- 14:23Speaker 5: A personal video message from Bryce Harper arrived on the
- 14:26Speaker 5: cell phone of a habitual sports better in November twenty
- 14:28Speaker 5: twenty four.
- 14:29Speaker 4: Hey, Terry was up, brother, Amn your host Brittany from
- 14:32Speaker 4: FanDuel wanted to make sure your thanksaving was extra special.
- 14:35Speaker 5: Montgomery County resident named Terry Thompson lost one point five
- 14:39Speaker 5: million dollars on bets with FanDuel sportsbook during the last
- 14:42Speaker 5: six years. In February, Terry was diagnosed with a gambling addiction.
- 14:46Speaker 5: While Thompson gambled away his family's life savings, he allegedly
- 14:49Speaker 5: heard often from FanDuel employees. In a recently filed lawsuit,
- 14:53Speaker 5: Thompson's attorneys alleged that a FanDuel VIP employee enticed him
- 14:57Speaker 5: to place more bets by giving him exclume of rewards
- 15:00Speaker 5: like a five hundred dollars bottle of champagne and tickets
- 15:03Speaker 5: to Super Bowls. The video from Harper, face of the
- 15:07Speaker 5: Phillies and a two time National League Most Valuable Player,
- 15:09Speaker 5: was another reward. In March, attorneys for the Public Health
- 15:13Speaker 5: Advocacy Institute filed a lawsuit on Terry Thompson's behalf against
- 15:16Speaker 5: FanDuel and DraftKings. By then, Thompson was in deep financial ruin.
- 15:21Speaker 5: He couldn't bear to tell his family the scope of
- 15:23Speaker 5: his losses, so he texted his therapists and indicated that
- 15:26Speaker 5: he was planning to take his life. Thompson is now
- 15:29Speaker 5: undergoing treatment for gambling addiction.
- 15:32Speaker 3: So you could see crystal from that video. Bryce said, Hey,
- 15:36Speaker 3: your host from FanDuel Britney wanted to make sure that
- 15:39Speaker 3: you had a great Thanksgiving. Obviously, this ignited a lot
- 15:42Speaker 3: of questions because Bryce Harper, by the way, is supposedly
- 15:45Speaker 3: a devout Mormon, which is you know, okay, so we're
- 15:48Speaker 3: supposed to be against gambling, right. We also know that
- 15:52Speaker 3: the MLB is currently locked in some controversy with the
- 15:56Speaker 3: gambling companies because of advertising deals. There's been a lot
- 16:00Speaker 3: of consternation about the players themselves and their relationship with
- 16:04Speaker 3: gambling companies. And initially there was a lot of speculation
- 16:07Speaker 3: did Bryce Harper have some sort of secret deal with FanDuel. Harper,
- 16:12Speaker 3: by the way, has come out with a statement denying
- 16:14Speaker 3: and all of this. Here's his total response. He says,
- 16:17Speaker 3: I did not know FanDuel would do this. I did
- 16:19Speaker 3: not consent to it. FanDuel had no right to do it.
- 16:23Speaker 3: What he says is that an individual named Britney paid
- 16:26Speaker 3: the eight hundred and ninety nine dollars fee for his
- 16:29Speaker 3: personal videos on Cameo, and that they were given through
- 16:32Speaker 3: the personal section as a holiday video for Terry. He
- 16:37Speaker 3: claims Cameo has a separate category for business video requests.
- 16:40Speaker 3: At the time, I did not know this would video
- 16:42Speaker 3: would be used for commercial purposes. The request included a
- 16:45Speaker 3: short script. I read it in good faith, and he
- 16:48Speaker 3: says again, I had no idea fandal to would do this.
- 16:50Speaker 3: I did not consent to it. Here's the problem for
- 16:53Speaker 3: mister Harper. Here's the script, by his own admission, which
- 16:56Speaker 3: he posts there. Here's a script that Brittany reached out
- 16:58Speaker 3: to him. Hey, Terry, your host, Brittany from FanDuel wanted
- 17:03Speaker 3: to make sure your Thanksgiving was extra special. So I
- 17:05Speaker 3: just wanted to hop on and wish you and your
- 17:06Speaker 3: family a wonderful Thanksgiving. Tell blank Son I said Hello.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Can add his own personal touches through the above as well.
- 17:13Speaker 3: It strains credulity that Bryce would say I had no
- 17:17Speaker 3: idea that FanDuel would do this. And look, maybe if
- 17:22Speaker 3: you know absolutely nothing about gambling, you can say I
- 17:25Speaker 3: didn't know what a FanDuel host was, Bryce Harper, I
- 17:28Speaker 3: could virtually certain knows at least a little bit about
- 17:32Speaker 3: sports gambling just from engaging with sports media and others.
- 17:36Speaker 3: Most people like myself, we're familiar with the gambling industry,
- 17:39Speaker 3: know that host from FanDuel is a well known thing,
- 17:42Speaker 3: like a casino host. Basically, what they do is they
- 17:46Speaker 3: encourage ultra rich people to gamble on the platform and
- 17:49Speaker 3: in exchange, they shower you again with gifts, which are
- 17:51Speaker 3: just ways to make you feel better. Also, as a
- 17:53Speaker 3: Philadelphia Inquirer video showed you, I mean scumbag behavior. Hey, Terry,
- 17:58Speaker 3: you hit a big one role You're due for a win,
- 18:02Speaker 3: your dude, Harry, that's why you need to deposit even
- 18:05Speaker 3: more money in these programs. And they give you free tickets. Again,
- 18:08Speaker 3: it's not free. You've probably paid for it.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Many times over in terms of your overall losses.
- 18:13Speaker 3: I think what this highlights to me, First of all,
- 18:16Speaker 3: why is the guy worth hundreds of millions of dollars
- 18:17Speaker 3: doing nine hundred dollar videos on cameo.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Sorry, that's weird, all right? What's up with that number two?
- 18:24Speaker 1: You know?
- 18:25Speaker 3: His His defense basically is, I'm an idiot. I read
- 18:28Speaker 3: the script verbatim and I didn't know that it was
- 18:30Speaker 3: going to be from FanDuel.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Okay, if we want to go with that.
- 18:33Speaker 3: In terms of the I have a low IQ defense
- 18:35Speaker 3: and then tertiary I think, and probably the biggest one.
- 18:39Speaker 3: This is the lengths that these companies go to to
- 18:42Speaker 3: keep these whales addicted. Yeah, how, I mean, can you imagine?
- 18:46Speaker 3: Because I was tweeting a lot about this. By the way,
- 18:49Speaker 3: the Phillies.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Fans are all furious with me over it, saying I'm
- 18:51Speaker 1: unjustly going after Bryce Harper, and I'm curious for your reaction.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Somebody said, why don't you go after Peyton Manning for
- 18:58Speaker 3: doing bud Light commercials? And I'm like, because because by
- 19:00Speaker 3: that logic, he's you know, he is just as guilty.
- 19:04Speaker 3: This is the equivalent of bud Light finding its top alcoholics,
- 19:09Speaker 3: getting Peyton Manning to record a personal video for them,
- 19:13Speaker 3: and that alcoholic nearly dying of a sclerotic liver, and
- 19:18Speaker 3: then money being exchanged hands.
- 19:20Speaker 1: In between.
- 19:21Speaker 3: That is how scummy. This behavior is it's totally normalized,
- 19:25Speaker 3: and worse, it.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Is totally legal.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Cigarette companies do not contact their top smokers and say,
- 19:32Speaker 3: thank you so much for smoking.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Here's some free stuff. You got to keep smoking.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Hey, haven't ripped a few darts today, Terry, you got
- 19:40Speaker 3: to rip a few more? Why don't you go at
- 19:42Speaker 3: It's the only industry where this is normalized, and it's
- 19:46Speaker 3: all because this is the way they make money. The
- 19:49Speaker 3: terries of the world make up the vast majority of
- 19:51Speaker 3: their problems. That's the praise problem.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in a sense, the people who are saying,
- 19:56Speaker 2: why don't you go after Peyton Manning or whoever for
- 19:58Speaker 2: their bud light commercials, they do have a bit of
- 20:00Speaker 2: a point that it is gross, like I wouldn't like.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Commercial, you know, like by the way, you know what's funny.
- 20:05Speaker 3: I remember Cameo reached out to us five.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Years ago and we were like, why no, I'm not right. Yeah,
- 20:09Speaker 1: it's like I'm charge for a personal video.
- 20:11Speaker 4: We'll never understand these people.
- 20:13Speaker 2: This man is so wealthy and you're doing this penny
- 20:15Speaker 2: anti bullshit for you know, to fuel someone's gambling addiction.
- 20:19Speaker 2: That's very I will never never understand that, but it
- 20:23Speaker 2: is true that we have created this climate of commercialization
- 20:30Speaker 2: that it is anything go that you can slap your
- 20:33Speaker 2: likeness on a financial product or something addictive like bud
- 20:38Speaker 2: light or alcohol or cigarettes or gambling or whatever, and
- 20:42Speaker 2: it has been sort of normalized. So then when someone
- 20:45Speaker 2: like Bryce Harper gets this fandal script, he doesn't think
- 20:49Speaker 2: anything of it because this is especially in sports, gambling
- 20:53Speaker 2: has become so intertwined in every aspect of it that
- 20:57Speaker 2: he probably didn't like, He didn't even blame. It's like,
- 21:00Speaker 2: all right, fandle Host, sure, why not here we go.
- 21:03Speaker 2: I'm just ripping through these videos on cameo for whatever reason.
- 21:06Speaker 2: I'm trying to earn my extra thousand dollars on top
- 21:10Speaker 2: of my massive multimillion dollar salary. So in a sense,
- 21:13Speaker 2: I actually think that they do have a point. We
- 21:15Speaker 2: probably should be going after Peyton Manning. Also there is
- 21:17Speaker 2: bud Light deals or whatever, because it is it is gross,
- 21:21Speaker 2: and I know you've pointed out there is another way
- 21:24Speaker 2: killing and Babe has showed us that you can actually
- 21:28Speaker 2: to be a prominent athlete and have some sort of standards.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Here he has refused to put his likeness with associated
- 21:38Speaker 2: with any sort of gambling product. He says sports betting
- 21:41Speaker 2: is destructive. It's ruined the lives of some people.
- 21:43Speaker 4: I know.
- 21:44Speaker 2: That's why I refuse to appear in sports betting advertisements.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Many of us come from the suburbs. It destroys the
- 21:48Speaker 2: lives of countless people there. And this is one of
- 21:52Speaker 2: the top footballers in the world, France's top player, and
- 21:56Speaker 2: he's drawn a line in the sand around this. And
- 21:58Speaker 2: you were saying also around five food, which is interesting
- 22:01Speaker 2: as well, which is also an addictive product, Selle.
- 22:03Speaker 1: So I find.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Encourage prominent people to have more standards for themself.
- 22:08Speaker 1: And that is the whole reason I want to do
- 22:09Speaker 1: this segment. Everybody knows FanDuel and DraftKings are scum, okay,
- 22:13Speaker 1: And I have, you know, extensively detailed multiple segments and
- 22:16Speaker 1: monologues here of how many times they've done this to
- 22:19Speaker 1: the terries of the world. By the way you read
- 22:21Speaker 1: the lawsuits heartbreaking.
- 22:22Speaker 3: Terry had never put a bet, placed a bet in
- 22:24Speaker 3: his life before the year twenty twenty, and by twenty
- 22:27Speaker 3: twenty six he's broke and nearly come suicide, lost his house,
- 22:30Speaker 3: lost his entire life savings.
- 22:32Speaker 1: So I'm sorry.
- 22:32Speaker 3: If you're complicit in that, you're a piece of shit
- 22:35Speaker 3: in my opinion, And especially if you're sitting there texting
- 22:37Speaker 3: somebody saying, hey, you know, you got to hit another
- 22:40Speaker 3: one and all of that, it's horrible. Like what would
- 22:43Speaker 3: you think of somebody going around, you know, in to
- 22:46Speaker 3: crack addicts legally and then dangling crack in front of
- 22:50Speaker 3: their faces, being like, why haven't you got any more
- 22:52Speaker 3: crack today?
- 22:53Speaker 1: You got to go and get some more.
- 22:54Speaker 3: We would rightfully be like, you are scums, absolute scum
- 22:58Speaker 3: of the earth.
- 22:58Speaker 1: And yet we allow this.
- 23:00Speaker 3: By the way, again, for everybody who comes after me
- 23:02Speaker 3: and says it's free choice and freedom and all of that,
- 23:06Speaker 3: does this make you free? Terry doesn't look so free
- 23:08Speaker 3: to me. Terry in another time he would have been
- 23:10Speaker 3: in a debtors prison. And fundamentally, if you participate in gambling, terry.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Is the only reason you're allowed to make your little bets.
- 23:18Speaker 3: The vast majority of gambling profits comes from the top
- 23:23Speaker 3: six percent of gamblers, and all their losses they underwrite
- 23:26Speaker 3: the operation for everything. That's why they have these host programs.
- 23:30Speaker 3: It's like with frequent flyers. The reason why United Cares
- 23:33Speaker 3: more about its top its premiere one K customers is
- 23:36Speaker 3: because they make up the vast majority of the operating revenue.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Your little once a flight, you know, Thanksgiving trip, We
- 23:43Speaker 3: don't give a shit about you. This is how most
- 23:45Speaker 3: industries operate, but especially sin industries. The vast majority of
- 23:50Speaker 3: alcohol is drank by alcoholics, by the top ten percent
- 23:53Speaker 3: of drinkers. The vast majority of cigarettes are smoked by
- 23:55Speaker 3: the top ten percent of smokers. It is the same
- 23:58Speaker 3: in any sin industry. That is why we always treated
- 24:01Speaker 3: it with immense contempt. We tried to push it to
- 24:05Speaker 3: the back rooms and kept it to the mob. But honestly,
- 24:09Speaker 3: would you even like this behavior. I wouldn't even think
- 24:13Speaker 3: that the mob would do anything like this. Scummy to
- 24:17Speaker 3: go out and to so viciously enable and encourage gambling
- 24:22Speaker 3: addicts like this, And so.
- 24:24Speaker 1: That's the society that we live in. It's totally legal.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Pennsylvania, by the way, is one of the few states
- 24:30Speaker 3: where not only is this legal, they also have legal
- 24:32Speaker 3: eye gaming. You could play blackjack and slots on your
- 24:37Speaker 3: phone with five G Internet. What possible good could ever
- 24:41Speaker 3: come from that?
- 24:42Speaker 1: Why? And why do they do it? Tax revenue?
- 24:44Speaker 3: And yet I mean, how much tax revenue will be
- 24:47Speaker 3: spent on police resources for having to be sent to
- 24:50Speaker 3: Terry's house, how much tax revenue and societal cost will
- 24:53Speaker 3: there be from broken homes families, the amount of domestic
- 24:57Speaker 3: violence that goes up in its skyrocketing. That's my last
- 25:00Speaker 3: soapbox thing here e four. Go ahead and take a
- 25:03Speaker 3: look absolute shocker Illinois, which happens to be a hub
- 25:07Speaker 3: for legal gambling and where Illinoisans lost seven point seven
- 25:11Speaker 3: billion dollars last year single state, ever since they legalized gambling.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Well guess what, Ever, since the legalization, we can now
- 25:20Speaker 3: see that an estimated one million Illinois residents are now
- 25:25Speaker 3: compulsive gamblers or at risk of becoming one. So that
- 25:28Speaker 3: is again, this is a addiction with the highest rate
- 25:33Speaker 3: of any addiction known to mankind of suicide and depression.
- 25:38Speaker 3: And so we've all just decided that we're going to
- 25:40Speaker 3: normalize this, that the terries of the world will underwrite
- 25:43Speaker 3: it all so that you know, podcasters in the sports
- 25:47Speaker 3: world can get filthy rich and a whole bunch of
- 25:50Speaker 3: gamble gambling companies can continue to underwrite if you like sports,
- 25:55Speaker 3: the integrity is of this game is like long gone
- 25:57Speaker 3: at this point, you cannot trust so much of the
- 26:00Speaker 3: stuff in front of you, and tens of millions of
- 26:03Speaker 3: Americans in the next ten years, especially young men, will
- 26:06Speaker 3: both be broke and b We'll have an addiction, an
- 26:10Speaker 3: addiction with the highest rate of suicide and depression. And
- 26:12Speaker 3: it was all an affirmative choice that we just said, Yeah, let's.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Go ahead and do it.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Let's pull down every single barrier and allow these companies
- 26:21Speaker 2: to run wild and prey on people who are suffering
- 26:25Speaker 2: with a genuine addiction disorder.
- 26:28Speaker 4: It's really really sick, really dark, all right.
- 26:31Speaker 3: So box over, thank you so much for watching, guys.
- 26:33Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. We will have a great show
- 26:36Speaker 3: for everybody tomorrow and we'll see you all then