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Episode 46: New-to-the-Screen Moments · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode forty six of Ravellio for
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  Speaker 1: June eleventh, twenty twenty six. I'm Emy and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nicole, and in this episode, we'll be discussing moments
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  Speaker 2: never seen on screen before that we may see in
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  Speaker 2: the upcoming HBO Harry Potter series, And for the first
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  Speaker 2: time since our inception, we're going to be jumping right
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  Speaker 2: into that because there's no news.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I never thought we lived to see the day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there might be a little something
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  Speaker 2: out there. Please call us out if there's some news
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  Speaker 2: that you've seen in the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that means. As soon as we get
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  Speaker 1: off this call, something's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: It is because we're recording this on June sixth, so
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  Speaker 2: there is several days before when we're recording this and
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  Speaker 2: when it comes out that things could happen and news
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  Speaker 2: could break. So yeah, but for now, we have no news.
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  Speaker 2: No post on this Saturday. It's not Sunday Saturday, but
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  Speaker 2: no post on this Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: so we're breaking our main discussion into three bits here.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got book only moments that we're not in
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  Speaker 1: the movies but they were in the books. We've got
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  Speaker 1: brand new moments that we know we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: getting in the HBO series, not in the books or
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  Speaker 1: the movies. And then we're going to talk about some
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  Speaker 1: scenes that we really hope that we get to see
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  Speaker 1: in the series. So kicking us off, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: take a look at some of those book only moments
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  Speaker 1: that didn't make it into the original movies that we
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  Speaker 1: know we're getting in this series, which I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is like people who are excited about the series
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  Speaker 1: are excited for this reason. I feel like that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the main thing you hear from people is, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're finally going to get to see those book moments.
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  Speaker 1: So one of those first ones that got confirmed pretty
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  Speaker 1: early on, like as soon as they started filming, was
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  Speaker 1: Uncle Vernon's very strange morning that he has in that
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  Speaker 1: first chapter of The Sorcerer's Stone. We saw a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of photos of the filming of this. There's a great
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  Speaker 1: photo of Vernon with his little iced bun and he's
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  Speaker 1: just crashed into dedalistiggle. I'm so excited that they're actually
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  Speaker 1: starting with this because this makes me so happy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that, and I know we've
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously, some of these things we've kind of
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  Speaker 2: talked about in other episodes before, kind of shared our
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  Speaker 2: thoughts in those boots, so some of this might be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, things that we've said before. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that obviously having the show and having more run time
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  Speaker 2: allows us to see more of that first chapter because
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  Speaker 2: obviously the movies we kind of get dumped right into it,
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  Speaker 2: right with you know, Harry being brought to Private Drive,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't really get to see anything about the
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  Speaker 2: normal day that became very kind of not normal for
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  Speaker 2: certain people leading up to it. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: it's a really good backstory or context, and I'm just
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  Speaker 2: really excited to see more of like just the Muggle
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  Speaker 2: world kind of like I think we'll kind of see
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  Speaker 2: more of that or just seeing Yeah, we just don't
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  Speaker 2: get a lot of like seeing the witches and wizards
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  Speaker 2: like in the Muggle world, in the movies in general,
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  Speaker 2: but we know we have book only scenes where we
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  Speaker 2: do have our witches and wizards like in the Muggle world.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious too just to see how they do this
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  Speaker 1: because in that first chapter of the book, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the context and information we get is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like through Vernon's thought process. So it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see how they film this and how they kind of
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  Speaker 1: info dump I mean, some of.
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  Speaker 2: That they could do. I think the one good thing
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  Speaker 2: about like a visual medium obviously over the book is
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  Speaker 2: that you can kind of switch more easily between other
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  Speaker 2: people's points of view because you're not just reading like
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  Speaker 2: somebody's point of view or somebody's thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, could they.
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  Speaker 2: Do like a voiceover kind of thing, like of his thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: Like could they add maybe some dialogue in there, like
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  Speaker 2: when he like gets home and is like just like
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  Speaker 2: telling like Petunia about everything that happened, And maybe they'll
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  Speaker 2: be just some of his thoughts that we get in
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  Speaker 2: the Boo book might be translated into actual dialogue that
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  Speaker 2: he shares with somebody, or maybe it'll just come through
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  Speaker 2: in like the acting, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But there's like definitely a lot of things they could do.
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  Speaker 2: With that, So I guess, yeah, it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see how they add in those thoughts. Is this going
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  Speaker 2: to be like, are we gonna, I like picture seeing
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  Speaker 2: this just like montage kind of thing of like Vernon's
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  Speaker 2: day and all these different things that happen, rather it
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  Speaker 2: than being this like continuous kind of scene.
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  Speaker 1: Like is he going to be like grumbling to his
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  Speaker 1: coworkers about the weirdos in the street, like what right?
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like he can were going to get I
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  Speaker 2: think they could definitely add some dialogue there to put
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  Speaker 2: his thoughts into the show, because I think it's important.
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  Speaker 2: I think the fact that they're including this in the show,
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  Speaker 2: I think means that we will get some of like
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  Speaker 2: that verbalization of his thoughts, because why would you film
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  Speaker 2: all these scenes and everything and have like no dialogue.
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  Speaker 2: But if they do it really cleverly, they could also
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  Speaker 2: do it in this montage way that doesn't have any
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  Speaker 2: dialogue but does still portray.
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  Speaker 3: Feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like you said, like, I think there
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  Speaker 1: will be more importance on that conversation with Petunia when
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  Speaker 1: he gets home, because in that conversation, doesn't she confirm
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  Speaker 1: what Harry's name.
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  Speaker 2: Was I think so because he said people he was
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  Speaker 2: hearing a name but couldn't quite remember what the name was.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, she's kind of like wait, what, like that
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  Speaker 3: is his name?
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  Speaker 1: Right, because like when he's on his way to work
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. It's something that's where we get the inner
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  Speaker 1: thoughts of like, oh, the Potter's kid, wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: He such as Henry Harry?
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  Speaker 1: You know what was the name? So yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 1: they could really use that conversation at home to kind
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  Speaker 1: of lay that up a little.
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  Speaker 2: Better when I think we see that a lot in
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  Speaker 2: like other mediums, like where sometimes like I think of
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  Speaker 2: like when I'm watching shows or movies or something, right,
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  Speaker 2: and like people, if you listen to some of the
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  Speaker 2: dialogue and compare to like how things actually happen in
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  Speaker 2: real life, sometimes it's kind of weird, like when people
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  Speaker 2: meet up and they're like Amy, right, and like when
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  Speaker 2: and then you're like Nicole and like that happens a
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  Speaker 2: lot in show, right. That happens a lot in shows,
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  Speaker 2: And like when I see you in person, I don't
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  Speaker 2: go Amy, Yes that's my name, and I think and
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  Speaker 2: obviously in shows and stuff, right, they do that. So
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  Speaker 2: the viewer is like, oh, that's Amy, But in real life,
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  Speaker 2: we don't talk that way. So I think we'll see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that, like you know, where it's like
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  Speaker 2: you know, or they'll say something like I don't know, Amy,
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  Speaker 2: you must be really tired after that or whatever, just
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  Speaker 2: to give context, like they have to put that context
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  Speaker 2: in the dialogue.
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  Speaker 3: But sometimes I'm just like, wow, I never talk like this.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that like we will get some of
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  Speaker 2: that to help fill in the things that are like
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  Speaker 2: just those written words in the pages. It'll be and
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  Speaker 2: actually to that point, it'll be really cool. And hopefully
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  Speaker 2: we get to see just more of a dynamic between
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  Speaker 2: like Vernon and Petunia, because in the movies, like we
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  Speaker 2: don't get a ton of that, Like we don't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we never see just really like the two
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  Speaker 2: of them just having a conversation about like.
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  Speaker 1: What is going on right, Like what is their relationship
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  Speaker 1: and their marriage really like like I don't really know,
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  Speaker 1: like are they in love?
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  Speaker 3: Are they tolerating each other? Right? Are they just together?
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  Speaker 1: For Dudley, Like we never see them disagree really taking
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  Speaker 1: them out to the shack in the middle of the ocean, right,
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  Speaker 1: she is a little bit like what But other than that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're never really arguing, but we don't ever see them
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  Speaker 1: like affectionate towards each.
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  Speaker 2: Other like they're dynamic. Is very I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: the book really gives us a good description of their
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  Speaker 2: dynamic either, because they're kind of like they're just there
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  Speaker 2: for certain plot things because of like the fact that
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  Speaker 2: just Harry's there and they're obviously key to that. But
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  Speaker 2: I think the show could explore that like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. But now I'm jumping ahead because that's not
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  Speaker 2: a book only thing. That's kind of like what could
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  Speaker 2: be added, But yeah, just more Dursleys, Like I think
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  Speaker 2: that's just that'll be cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So another thing that we know that we're
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  Speaker 1: getting is Peeves, which is kind of strange to me
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  Speaker 1: because they still haven't confirmed the casting for Peeves, but
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  Speaker 1: they keep saying, yes, Peace is in this, so I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we've got like the opposite situation of what happened
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  Speaker 1: with the films where Peeves was cast but never made
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  Speaker 1: the movies. Now we know he's going to be in
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  Speaker 1: the show, but we don't know who's playing him.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which I mean, I think that the whole casting
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  Speaker 2: announcements have been like very interesting and like really weird about.
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  Speaker 1: Just all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and like what is being selected as being
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  Speaker 2: announced or found out is just really weird. Like we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about it in a little bit actually about I
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  Speaker 2: guess one piece of news that we did have, but
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  Speaker 2: we're including it in the main discussion. Like it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of just like a really random casting thing for us
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  Speaker 2: to find out where I feel like there's probably a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cast I mean, no, there's probably a lot
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  Speaker 2: of casts here that we haven't had any kind of
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  Speaker 2: formal announcement of and there never will be, So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they obviously have to have somebody I think for Peeves,
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  Speaker 2: unless they're planning to just film that later and then
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  Speaker 2: add it in, or if they're just it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: all CGI obviously and then they're just having a voice actor,
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  Speaker 2: or are they gonna have somebody actually like acting as
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  Speaker 2: Peeves and then just put the effects on it after,
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  Speaker 2: like right, you know, I guess they could go either way.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess if they're just gonna do it all CGI,
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  Speaker 2: like if they're just gonna make him fully a CGI
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  Speaker 2: character and have somebody voice him, I can see why
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  Speaker 2: maybe we haven't gotten an announcement, right, but if they
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  Speaker 2: have somebody that's actually gonna be on set acting and
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  Speaker 2: then they just do special effects after, I mean, it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: Because he's like he's not a ghost, he's a poltergeist.
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  Speaker 2: But like we did see real actors and actresses portraying
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  Speaker 2: the ghosts in Hugial movies, so they.
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  Speaker 3: Absolute could do that. So it's just I can't imagine
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  Speaker 3: they'll just do him all CGI.
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  Speaker 1: But like I guess, especially for like facial expressions, like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you need an actor for that, even
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  Speaker 1: if it is going to be CGI after, Like.
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  Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean, I guess. Like the one thing though,
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  Speaker 2: is that because Peeves is a poltergeist and not like
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  Speaker 2: a ghost, does he like actually look fully like a
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  Speaker 2: human like the ghosts do, because I know, like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like in the books, like we do get some
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  Speaker 2: descriptions about him, like we do know that he has
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  Speaker 2: like a solid body, and we know that he's he's able, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he's able to like interact with objects, but as.
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  Speaker 1: A nose because the gum from the keyhole gets shoved
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  Speaker 1: up its nose.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, And we know, I know, there's like description about
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  Speaker 2: like what his eyes look like and his like smile,
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  Speaker 2: like his grin, like I know we have a description
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  Speaker 2: of that, so I guess. I mean, it does sound
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  Speaker 2: like he does have like all humanoid features, So I
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  Speaker 2: guess they could totally have somebody portray him and then
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  Speaker 2: maybe with special effects. I don't think he'd looked the
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  Speaker 2: same as a He shouldn't look the same as a ghost,
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  Speaker 2: like a human ghost, because he's not. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that's where the special effects could make him look maybe differently.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but they could. But because of that,
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  Speaker 3: they could.
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  Speaker 2: Totally go with a CGI character if he's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: look like a human ghost.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know which.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it can be done, and it can be
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  Speaker 1: done well. I mean I think of like Gollum from Rays,
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  Speaker 1: that's totally CGI, but like they used the human expression
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  Speaker 1: to influence how they were doing it.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if your right, like Andy Serkis was
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  Speaker 2: still a Gollum. I think Avatar my favorite, like one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite movies of all time. It's all CGI,
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  Speaker 2: but it's all being acted by humans with motion capture.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess that's kind of yeah, what I was
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  Speaker 2: getting at is either they could have someone come.
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  Speaker 3: In and do motion capture and do CGI.
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  Speaker 2: They could have somebody not come in and do motion
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  Speaker 2: capture and just fully do CGI and do a voice actor,
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  Speaker 2: or they could have somebody there like acting and then
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  Speaker 2: do some kind of special effects. I guess I'm hoping
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  Speaker 2: it's maybe like motion capture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that would work best for him.
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  Speaker 2: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: We also know that we're getting Professor Binns and his
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  Speaker 1: History of Magic class, so that's exciting because like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we need that moment of him entering through
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  Speaker 1: the blackboard. It's so classic. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'll absolutely get that scene because I
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  Speaker 2: think a scene like that is like made for film TV.
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  Speaker 2: But I also understand why, like we didn't get it
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  Speaker 2: in the movie, just because there just wasn't enough time.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I think all of the all of the class moments
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  Speaker 2: that we got in the movie were very like specific
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  Speaker 2: for the plot, and we're like more necessary. But obviously,
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  Speaker 2: as we've talked about a lot, there's a lot more classroom,
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  Speaker 2: every day moments in the books that I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: in addition to just History of Magic, I think that
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  Speaker 2: we'll see a lot more of those like book only
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  Speaker 2: classroom moments for example, Like I guess, like and I
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  Speaker 2: guess maybe I'm getting ahead too, because we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later about what we're hoping to see.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, like in our last episode, right when
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about like the centaurs and like you
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  Speaker 2: know when Forriends comes and teaches astronomy, like I would
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  Speaker 2: love to see some of their like astronomy classes, and
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  Speaker 2: like we don't get to see that those are in
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  Speaker 2: the book. We don't get to see them in the
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  Speaker 2: film because they're not really necessary for the plot, but
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  Speaker 2: in something like the show gives us an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: see those moments.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And I feel like the benefit of including more
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  Speaker 1: of those classroom moments where maybe nothing super important is
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  Speaker 1: happening is it builds the environment, so there's world building there,
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  Speaker 1: and it also like builds the characters more because we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing them in everyday moments and how they interact with
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  Speaker 1: each other. So we're gonna see like Ron falling asleep,
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  Speaker 1: Hermione getting annoyed that they're not taking notes, like all
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  Speaker 1: of these little things. That just makes the world that
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  Speaker 1: much richer and allows it to breathe. Like we know
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  Speaker 1: there's so much action in the Harry Potter stories, but
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  Speaker 1: I think having those moments of like calm and allowing
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  Speaker 1: the story in the world to breathe is what makes
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  Speaker 1: the books so good. I think a lot of complaints
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  Speaker 1: about the films is that it just feels like you're
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  Speaker 1: just going boom boom, boom boom boom from one action
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  Speaker 1: scene to another.
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  Speaker 2: Scuse you kind of are because of timing, And I
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  Speaker 2: think the to that point, like the mundane, everyday, realistic
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  Speaker 2: things that we get in the book is what makes
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  Speaker 2: at least for me, is what makes like the book
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  Speaker 2: in the world like feel real.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the moments where.
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  Speaker 2: We have battles and that's not like wizard bazzles, right Like,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have that in real life. So like that's
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  Speaker 2: not the part that's making me be like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: this world and it's so real. It is those everyday
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  Speaker 2: moments of seeing them in class and dealing with homework,
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  Speaker 2: right Like reading those books when I was that same age,
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  Speaker 2: going to class and doing homework is what made it
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  Speaker 2: just seem like real.
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  Speaker 1: There's like late nights in the common room when they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I've got ten pages due tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and like it reminds me of like when I
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  Speaker 2: was in college, right, and I would sit in the
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  Speaker 2: common room of like my dorm room with my friends
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  Speaker 2: and we'd be doing work and it's like, that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what like Harry Ron and Hermione were doing, and like
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  Speaker 2: those moments, Yeah, we just don't get that in the film.
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  Speaker 3: And I do love those moments in the book, and.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever I do any kind of like rereads or anything,
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  Speaker 2: those are the moments I forget about, like in a
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  Speaker 2: general and I think those are the moments that stick
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  Speaker 2: out to me more when I'm rereading than the big
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  Speaker 2: stuff because the big stuff, like is in the film,
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  Speaker 2: and I watch the films all the time. So I
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  Speaker 2: do feel like what makes me reread is not to
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  Speaker 2: re experience those big moments, it's to experience the little moments.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that we will get those in the show.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I think obviously some stuff is still going to get
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: cut because we still have time limits with a show.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and I think was it like the I
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: don't know if this was the same.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And everything's blending together now and it's been a little
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: bit since I've like rewatched the like documentary and everything
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that we got or I don't know if this was
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in an article or maybe I'm completely making this up
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: right now, but I feel like at one point the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: showrunners talked about like wanting Obviously we talked a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: about them mentioning it being like natural and wanting to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: feel really naturalistic, but I feel like there was also
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: mentions of like things feeling like realistic and real, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: so I think if that is, you know, and I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: think we were worried about that, right, Like what do
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: you mean, like this is a fantasy world, Like things
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: aren't going to feel real. But I think if they
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: are wanting things to feel real, then we will see
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: those book only moments of the students just in the classroom.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: We did talk like you know about and this is
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: like again me jumping ahead a little bit to the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: brand new section, but like they talked about like seeing
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the teachers and like the teachers lounge, right, So like
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I do think that we will see maybe lots of
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: history and magic classes because I you know, like I don't.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope. So So another thing that's ben confirmed
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: that we're going to get, which is interesting that this
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: got confirmed because it's like several seasons away the full
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: pency of memories shown in order, and that's something that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: was reported after that set visit where a bunch of
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: fans and influencers visited the set. So yeah, that's not
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: until quite later. But I'm glad that they've said this
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and hopefully like hold themselves to this because I feel
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like we need those.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm kind of confused too why this got
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: confirmed so early, because like, we don't even know if
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the show will make it that many seasons, and so
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what are they already planning this far ahead for that?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But I think that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: We, like, if the.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Show makes it that far, Like I probably would have
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: never questioned that we would have gotten this because I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: think that makes really good I always think, like what
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: makes really good TV, what makes really good film? And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think those kind of like I feel like TV
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and TV shows love a good flashback, and at the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: end of the day, like, what are pencive memories but flashbacks?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: So I just think that it will.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Work really well like in a TV show, and like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and obviously it made sense why we didn't get them
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: all in the movies.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: We only got what was like key.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But to your point that you said before, like, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: think this will also be really good too, just for
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: like character and plot development, because you get some additional
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: character moments, like additional plot moments.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: That maybe no are not like.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Vital to the final story like what we did see
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in the film, but they're obviously important too, like they
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: were in the book for a reason, so there is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: still Yeah, they're still important. I mean it's to me
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: every word in the book is important, like yeah, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: mean not like and but like you know, like every
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like thing that's presented in the book is important in
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: some way, whether it's important to the overall plot or
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it's important just to like the world building.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean it's so funny because those lessons
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that Harry has with Dumbledore with the Pencive memories, that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: is such a huge chunk of the Half Prince book,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and it's so funny to me that it's such a
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: tiny little blip in the movie.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, let's be real though, like I do like
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the Halfwood Prince film yeah for what it is.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But if I were to say, because I think I've
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: mentioned before, like and I need to figure this out
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: when I actually finish a reread of the whole series.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: But I think that Halfwood Prints, at this day and age,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: will probably inch up to be my favorite book. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: never thought anything would dethrone Prisoner of Azkaban, but I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: do think Halfwlood Prints will I do. And there is
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: so much like lore in that book, which is why
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I love it. And let's be real that Halfwood Prince
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: film is like zero lore.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I mean there's a little bit in there, right, we
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: get a.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Little bit of pencive memories, we get a little bit there,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: but like.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: It's so glossed over though.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It's like the worst book to film adaptation of like
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the entire series in my opinion. But I understand why
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: because there is so much info dump in that book.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: That is important to the greater world.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I think would a casual viewer care so much about
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that stuff? Like, say you have someone who's just a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: movie person, hasn't read the book, doesn't really care about
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the universe. Would they really care about all of that lore?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Probably not, And so I get why it gets.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: The acts in the film.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But I think the good thing with the TV show
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is that I don't think they have to care so
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: much about while some people might only be watching our
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: show and never reading the books. I think it's like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we're just going to do it, Whereas like the movies
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: are like, we have such a limited amount of time
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and we have a lot of people who watch these
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: films who haven't read the books, so we need to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: make sure that we're putting in all the main stuff
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that still tells the story. But the show can be like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: screw that, we have all this time. We're going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: show you what we and the books that you were missing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And it's so funny to me because I feel like
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I understand why the movies did this and kind of
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: did play to the casual viewer a little bit more.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: But also the casual viewer is going to go to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a movie like that and be like it was fine, right,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Like they're not going to be super into it. They're
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: just gonna be like, yeah, visually a good well, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: if you added the layers that make it such a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: good story, a casual viewer would watch it and be like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: oh wow, this was like actually a very like well
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: thought out, good story. Whereas I feel like a lot
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of times people who haven't read the books but only
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: watch the films, the takeaway is just like that was entertaining.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, And it's funny because I the amount of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: times I say to my boyfriend, who like is a
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: movie only person but also not he's weird because he's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a casual movie only viewer, but like also is like
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: really intrigued by Harry Potter and the store of Harry Potter,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and like asks questions that I think a casual person
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: wouldn't ask, so like lots of times, Like I just say,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I just remember saying to him so many times, like
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: well in the book like that, you know, like that
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: is touched on so much deeper or like you would
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: get the answer to the question you just asked me
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: if you'd read the dang book.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So I think that the.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Show will be really good because again I guess you
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: know me, I always like to compare it to something else.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I think of Game of Thrones, right. Game of Thrones
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: is another book series that has extensive detail in the books,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: way more than Harry Potter, Like it's high fantasy. It
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is it is, you know, you have to devote time
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to read that series. But I do not think at
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: all that that show, especially the earlier seasons, pandered to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like just a casual fan base. There still was a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: lot of political stuff involved, Like there was a lot
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: of those nuances, a lot of conversation, a lot of dialogue.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just all action action.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Action, and people appreciated it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: It worked and fans right, people decided, I want to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: go read the books now because they watched the show.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So I do hope that this show like has that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: same kind of thing. Like we aren't we aren't going
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: to make this just for the casual viewer. We are
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: going to include things from the books, but we also
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: have to make it makes sense to people who haven't
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: read the books, because we obviously can include every single
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: thing from the book, but they're going to be able
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to balance that a lot more than like the films
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: ever were able to.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. In one of those more like detailed
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: kind of background things that we do know we're going
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to get is a closer look at Dumbledore's past. So
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know when that's going to come into play,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: but I think that's kind of cool.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I really hope that we like get like a scene
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: of like Dumbledore looking in the mirror of Arisaid and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we get to see like what he sees because obviously
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's again that like we know, like.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: We get that scene and Fantastic Beast, but I think, yes,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I think that would be good to have.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It in this and him in an older age and stuff.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And I think too, that's still what he's seeing.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, especially because like we know that like when him
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and Harry are talking about the mirror and everything, like
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it's when he's much older, and I just feel like
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: it may have changed for him compared to what we
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: see in Fantastic Beasts.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And that's funny because when I like reading the books,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I always assumed that what he saw was his family.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I still agree with that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he he sees at that point
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in his life.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: In the book Arianna Alive with the family.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Only reason he's seeing Grinnelvald in Fantastic Beasts, I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is because that one that time in his life. I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: don't know that he has quite as many regrets at
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that point like I think he does.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: The things haven't happened fully, yes at that point.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Right, So I think that at that point in his life,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: maybe his regrets are framed more in like I kind
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of regret that relationship, but I also really want what
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it could have been correct, whereas once he's aged, he's like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that was never going to be what I wanted it
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to be, So therefore I don't desire that anymore. What
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I really want is my family back.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I think that what the story that they were starting
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to tell in Fantastic Beasts basically is that. And I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: think that once if we had gotten through that whole
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: story and got to like their big battle and everything,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that really is like the full I guess ending of
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: their dynamic, then absolutely I don't think that the Dumbledore
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: who comes out of that.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Duel would be the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Same Dumbledore that we see in Fantastic Beasts, so I
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: do think it is different. I also think that obviously
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in Fantastic Beasts they also kind of, like in my opinion,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: utilize that scene as like a.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Plot moving forward thing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And to help tell some of the plot, whereas if
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: we were to see it in the TV show from
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like the book that it's not. It is obviously relevant
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: to the plot, but it's not like telling you the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: plot or showing you the plot. It's just the like
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: ancillary thing of like this is worth what dumble Doore
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: sees like, we don't what Dumbledore sees has no bearing
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: on like the overall story, it has bearing on his character.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Grinnovald isn't really important in the Harry timeline.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Right correct, He's right, right?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So I think that that would be to include that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: scene as well would be a really nice tie in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to fantastic these films to show exactly what we've been
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: talking about, that progression of his character and to get
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: us to the Dumbledore that we know in Harry's time.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: And I kind of hope that they do it in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a way that holds that back at first, Like, I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: don't really want to see Dumbledore looking in the mirror
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of Aara said in season one and he sees a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: little girl and a woman in like, I don't want
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that to be right away. I want that mystery of
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: what does he really see? Is he telling the truth
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: about what he sees? I want that there until later,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and then I want us to start to get like
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the little drips of Dumbledore lore that eventually leads us
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to that moment of the King's cross between life and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: death situation where he starts to explain and then it
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: starts to connect. It makes sense, But.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like see this scene in my head of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: like you know, like him telling Harry about like you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: obviously trying to dissuade Harry from keep to keep keep
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: going back, you know. But then we see that like
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: every night Dumbledore goes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't have to see what he sees.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: But when I just see him entering the room and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: like standing in front of the mirror.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I just like see it in my head, like I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: just see like he's like telling him, like, you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: do not do it because this is because you know people,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you know, what is it, like waste away in front
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: of it. And then we just see him like like
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: montage clips of him doing that what he's telling Harry.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Not to do.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Such a good visual too, like because Dumbledore is so
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: old at that point, if the words are waste away
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: in front of it. And then we see like old
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: man Dumbledore with his beard just like longingly staring at
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the mirror. Like that's just a really good illustration.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And I think it like works for his character.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I think that the one thing that I'm excited about
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to see more about Dumbledore's past is that. And again
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: like tying it to Fantastic Beasts, we started to get
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that right, and I think that it's really important because
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: with Harry we obviously when like we we learn a
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: lot about Dumbledore, and especially comparing to the films, right,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: so what we see of Dumbledore in the films is
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: really mainly like just Harry's like perspective of Dumbledore. The
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: only glimpses I think we get of anything that like
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: there there's more to him than that is in the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: last film when we like or when we start to
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know when we get to hear
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: like you know, he's not the man that you thought
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: he was or did he tell you this? And like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff, but like that's never explored.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's like a.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Throwaway line to be like hey, book readers, we're gonna
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: throw this in because you know that there's more into
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: his past.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: And then you know, we just get this.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Like throwaway in a throwaway line of like that's your sister,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: like and it's just what we don't get to see
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: any of that. It's just like what I said like before,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like those just declarations that's like I'm gonna tell you
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: really quick, this portrait is of your sister, but like
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you really don't get any more detail about it. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: it's like this, like see book readers. We still included
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: there's Arianna's portrait, right, but like we started to explore
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: that in Fantastic Beasts, but still really didn't get there
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: because we were so focused on like just the Dumbledore,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: like Grindelvaldyne. And I think it's important because Dumbledore is
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: not a perfect character. He's such a flawed man and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: like Harry doesn't see him that way, and but others
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: recognize that he is. And I think that we have
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the time to explore that in the show, and Dumbledore
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: is such a beloved character and such a big character
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: that that would be really cool to explore because.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It is important to like his character and like what
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: he's doing with Harry because like obviously we have some
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: characters and stuff that like in the film, right, like
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: we do get snape like calling Dumbledore out like you've
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: just been raising him like a pig for slaughter and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, Right, But when you're just reading Harry
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: talk about Dumbledore, like Harry doesn't feel that way, like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: he doesn't feel like growing up right that dumb is
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: just it's like Dumbledore is helping me, Like Dumbledore is
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: my my father. Figure, like when in reality Dumbledore was
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: really kind of still kind of doing certain things for.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say personal gain, but like you know what
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Think it's good the greater good, which is very similar
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to his old friend grindel Wald.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Isn't it. But but I do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Think what Dumbledore was doing for the greater good was
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: actually for the greater good, because getting rid of Voldemort
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: was actually for the greater good. But yeah, we'll table
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that for if we ever want to do a Dumbledore
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: deep dive. But I think that this is good for
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: his character development, and I'm excited and excited to see
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: how it ties into what, like I said, what we've
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: already seen from Fantastic Beasts.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So this next one is kind of a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: weird one, and we just found this out like shortly
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: before recording. So morgana is going to be included, which
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, we see the chocolate frog card in the book,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: so I guess this is like a thing that's in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the book that's like going to be in the TV show.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But we know this because actress Zoe Calhoun has been
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: cast as Morgan le Fay according to Visiting World Direct,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and that is confirmed on IMDb as well. Yeah, so
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I guess we're getting like the full Harry and Ron
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: trade and chocolate frog cards situation and.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and this is what we were referencing earlier
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: in terms of just the way some of the casting
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: announcements have been really weird because I think, but this one,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I don't this one wasn't like again, this isn't like
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: an official casting announcement.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So this isn't HBO coming.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Out and saying like we've cast more Ghana, Like, this
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: is just something that news sites have found. So but
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I think that it's like, yeah, it's just interesting. But yes,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I think that this means that again, you know, what
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier is just I think further
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: confirmation of seeing those more like mundane, like everyday kind
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: of scenes. And I also think too that just this
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: whole thing speaking of like character development, like we were
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: just talking about with Dumbledore, like getting these additional scenes
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: like with Ron as well as also really exciting because
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of book only Ron moments that we
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: do not get in the films. I think his character
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: got the most like of the main trio, like his
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: character obviously got the most altered in my opinion, from
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: what we see in the book, and I think that
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the show now has the opportunity to like course correct
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit and actually like portray Ron how he
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is portrayed.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: In the books.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: And so I'm excited for like more of these like
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: little scenes with Ron, especially because a little actor who's playing.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Him is so cute and so cute, and this scene
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I could just see the tool. It's just gonna be cute.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm so excited for this, huh Okay.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So then we're going to move into some brand new
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: moments that are not in the books or the movies
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that we know we're getting in the TV series. First
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: up on that list is the one that we got
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: pretty early on, and that is the Flamel's. If you remember,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: we got some photos of them filming this scene with
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Dumbledore and Nicholas and Paranel Flamel and it looks like
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: they're on a beach somewhere. So I think, yeah, this
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: is one of those scenes that's going to kind of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: extend the world a little bit, Like we know that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: this happens, we know that he I'm sure met with
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: them about the protection of the Stone and also later
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: had to discuss with them their decision to live without
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: that stone for that short amount of time that that
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: would be. Yeah, but we're going to get that and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to get to see that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these brand new scenes will be very interesting because
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it's like I think some of them are going to be,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: like you just mentioned, like this one where we know
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: what happened and like there there is still a tie
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to the book because we know what happened, and they're
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: just extending and kind of like having to create what
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that conversation actually looked like and extend and yeah, create
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: something new, but we know that, like it's reference. But
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I think we're also going to get a lot of
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and as we'll talk about in a little bit here,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: we're going to get some brand new stuff that like
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: is not even alluded to at all in the book.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, directly something that just occurred to me as we
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: were talking. So if we're getting that chocolate frog scene,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: we're getting more ghana. Obviously, that's also the first time
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that Harry runs across Nicholas flamel Is in that scene
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: on the chocolate Frog card. So I do feel like
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: they're going to be planting more flamel throughout this season
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: than the movie did for sure, and making sure we
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: kind of get those hints because in the Sorcerer's Stone film,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: we don't really get any until Hermione finds him in
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a book, like yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Right right, it's just like okay, cool, this random wizard
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that we just talked mentioned where right, we don't get that?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And I think that's something too that'll be really nice
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: about the show, because we know that the books are
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: filled with foreshadowing and it's filled with easter eggs and
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: like when you's that's the best thing about rereading the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: books is because you realize, oh my god, this was
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: here the whole time, Like how how did I not
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: know it? And you wouldn't know it until after the
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: thing comes to pass. So I think that the show
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: can kind of play with that a little bit and
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: play around with that. And I think that this does
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: confirm that we will get that. I don't want to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: say for certain, but I think what to to the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: point you just made, like if we're going to like
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: show like mor GANA, then I feel like the whole
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: reason why they're adding that scene too is so that
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: they can introduce Nicholas Will MoU yes as well.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense now that like my brain has
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: made that connection.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, it's like cool, we get to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: see Morgan. I'm so glad for the actress that she
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: gets the probably two seconds on screen that this scene
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: will be on car moving just maybe ever so slightly.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: But what is the bigger plan here? Because I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: you're right. I think that's exactly why they're going to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: include this scene because I think while we're talking about
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: this and talking about like them being able to add
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: in all these other things, I think at the end
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of the day, the things they add in is still
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: going to be intentional.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Like they're not.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: They're still not like I said earlier, They're still not
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: going to have time to put everything in, So there
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: is still going to have to be some intentional decisions.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And I do think that's probably including that chocolate frog
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: scene is probably intentional for that reason. But I still
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: stand by my statement that it will also be really
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: good character development for Harry and Ron.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: In addition, mm hmm.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So speaking of character development, this next item I would
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: have to imagine is purely for that reason, and that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is seeing Draco at home and this got confirmed from
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the actor who plays Draco, lox Pratt, who says, quote,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you get to see him at home and start to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: see why he is who he is, and even maybe
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you'll feel a bit of sympathy towards him. Draco has
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: loved but has this crippling family pressure.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I'm actually really excited about this, not just because I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a Draco fan and I'm a fan of the Malfoy
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: family dynamic, So I'm really excited for that. And I
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: think I think this is important because like, what is
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it like in the films, like Tom Felton gets like
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes of screen time or something like that when
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you actually add it all up. But like at the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: end of the day, like Draco is like such an
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: important character to the story, and I think in the movie,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: like he does be calm, like he is a main character,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: but he's also like not like he's also a background character.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And so I think that like it is really important
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: for us to like see a little bit about like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: What made him like who he is.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: And I think it also sets up the like redemption
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: of Draco that we like ultimately get to see and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: like again, like it wouldn't be an episode if I
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: didn't bring up Curse Child, but like, obviously, like we
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: don't really fully see his full redemption through Cursechild, and like.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: So I think it extends.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: There, but like we do start to see it towards
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the ends of the books, like and yeah, I just
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I think too, Like people love Draco, like he's a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: fan favorite, and obviously when they were making the films
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: didn't know necessarily that that was gonna happen, right, So
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: they have a little bit of like foresight now in hindsight, like.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: And then the importance of his character too.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Right, which we didn't fully know right the movies were
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: coming out as the books were still being written, So
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: there's a lot that not everybody was privy too. So
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I think now they have the yeah, not the foresight
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: they can't predict, they have the hindsight that Draco is
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: an important character and is a beloved character by the fan.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So now it's like, let's give them what they want,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Let's give them more Draco.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm excited for it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: And I'm excited for this actor because I actually just
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: recently watched.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: An interview with him.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It's just a random interview, and I'm like, this boy
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: is Draco, Like he just like oozes Draco just in
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: his regular Like I don't know how to explain it,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Like go watch any interview with him and you'll see
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I just am like, I just
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: feel like he was just like perfectly cast. I mean,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: we'll see how it translates into the actual film and
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the actual or the show and the actual acting. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just like excited to see him being able to
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: do more things because he just I am liking what
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I see of him as Draco so far. And the
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Malfoys are just a interesting family. I mean, as we
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: talked about when we did our episode on them.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: And I think to not just Draco's importance to the plot,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but Narcissa's right, like she's literally the reason that Harry's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: able to survive in the forest. And I think seeing
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Draco at home with his parents is going to set
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: up that moment a little bit better because we really
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: only get a couple glimpses of Draco and his mother together,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like enough to know that, like, yes, she cares about
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: her son, But I think seeing them interact from the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: very first season onwards sets up that bond a little
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: bit better and kind of understanding her motivation and maybe
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: where she's coming from in that moment of confirming that
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: her son is alive and uncovering for Harry just so
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that they can get back to that castle, so she
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: can go find her son get the heck out of.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: There, and just seeing her like a mother and like
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: just the motherly instincts that we know are there because
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: of like what you just said, all the actions she
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: takes later, and also just her you know, everything with
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the unbreakable like vow and everything like that's all for Draco,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you know, and she's doing all of that as a mother,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: And it'd be very interesting to see too, just the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: dynamic of like even her dynamic with Lucius because like
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: we talked about this a lot too in the Malfoy
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: episode and kind of just their their motivations or maybe
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: like you know, is some of like what she doing
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: just this like passiveness because of like the family she
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: was born into and then the family she married into.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: But she's really like, deep down, has maybe more morals
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: than that, or like maybe becoming a mother made that
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: for her. And so I think these little moments will
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: show that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, we see her blow off Bellatrix quite a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: bit when they're do that Unbreakable fowl.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Because she's choosing her son over.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like her sister, and her sister's her sister's.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Belief system and morals and values.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I think it's really important because is Narcissa
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: in with the Death Theaters. Absolutely, she's married to one.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't ever get confirmation if she is
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: one herself either, but like she's right in that circle, right,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: So it's very easy to quickly peg her as just
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: being Bellatrix two point zero, but she's not at all.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: And I think exact, yeah, exactly to your point is
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: that seeing Draco at home is not just seeing Draco
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: at home, It is also seeing Narcissa and Lucy at home.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: And maybe we even see Dobby or No. I feel
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: like we can't see Dobby earlier because that would just kind.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Of mess with Chamber of Secrets a little bit. But
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: maybe I guess not because we already know. We have to.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like we have to remember we're going into this.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: We're already book reader.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: The story's already been out, so we already know that
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Dobby is at the Malfoys, so I could see them
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: throwing Dobby in in the first season.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: A quick second, Right, it doesn't.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Change the fact that Harry learns it later if we.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Know it, right, Yeah, I think that's just it's it's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: really interesting to explore those characters because they're not good
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: people by any means. But I think it's just it
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: adds a different layer again to the story of being
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: able to kind of see them interact and get a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: glimpse into their world as to maybe why they are
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the way that they are.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And I think I mean, like I've said a million times,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: at least for me, I love the villains in any story.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes they're more intriguing than the heroes. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think this will provide a really good juxtaposition to
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: like the Weasleys, because like, we do get to see
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of the Weazleys at home, right, We see
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of the wee Is at home in the movies,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: and so we get to see a lot of like
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: what a like loving Wizarding family household looks like, and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: we really don't get to see the opposite side of that,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: because we don't see Draco at home, and he is
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the opposite side of that.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Which though it's interesting because the Weasley's. Yes, it's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: like obviously like a loving family dynamic, but there is
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: also this crippling family pressure, like blacks Pratt said in
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: his quote about Draco correct, Like if you think about
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: how pressured the twins are by Molly in doing well
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in school and staying in school and not having their
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: joke shop career, that's family pressure. You've got Percy, who
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: is like arguably trying very hard for like parental approval,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: which is why he does half the things he does,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: but then he just like severs ties with them later
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: because he's just gone too far. You've got Ron, who's
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: always like competing with his brothers for the attention, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: he's like kind of like this forgotten child. He's like,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I really like new dress robes, please.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Not just And I think that's actually a really good
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: point because obviously, like.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, please.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Don't comfort me about this, I guess, but like I
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: think that like the way that we see the Weasley's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: portrayed is obviously in such a positive way, right, because
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like that's how Harry sees them, and it's like his
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: powne family. But like to your point, there is like
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of similarities there to the Malfoys. In terms
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: of this family pressure, it's just maybe a little bit
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Draco's family pressure is maybe a little bit darker, right,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and a little bit more colder exactly. But at the
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: end of the day, family pressures, family pressure, and so
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be a really good thing to see
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: those families juxtapus juxtap Oh, my.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: God, in juxtaposition juxtapose. There we go. I don't know
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: why I could say.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: That, but like to realize that, like maybe all of
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: these characters are not as like different as we think.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Like I think of like.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: My man serious, right, like he talks about like you know,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the world is not split into good people and death theaters,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Like there's gray in between. And I think every character
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: has gray and to the point that you just made
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: like the Weasleys are not all perfect and they're super
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: wholesome and like they are perfect little people, you know
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like there's not no one is perfect,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: No family is perfect, no family dynamic is perfect.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: And I think we just think.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Of like Weasley's good, Malfoy is bad, but people serious,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: there's gray area.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there. People can want what's best for their kids,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: and that comes from love and care. It doesn't necessarily
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: mean that that's not also a.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Negative, especially when it comes to pressure. Right.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I think of in the real life too, write people
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: or children that feel pressured to pursue certain career paths
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: because you know, they're both their parents are doctors, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: their parents have instilled the entire life that you will
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: continue to you will continue the family of doctors and
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: all of that, And like, is it coming from a
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: malicious place from the parents. Not always Sometimes to your point,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: it's coming from we want what's best for you. If
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you pursue this career, you'll be doing good for people,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: you'll be financially set.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: It's like we you're smart, and we've you know, we've
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: raised you to be smart, and they just want what's.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Best for you.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: But to that kid, it's this immense pressure of like
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to disappoint my parents, and I've got
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: to get good grades. And sometimes I think the parents
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: don't realize the pressure that they're putting on their kids
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: in that way because it is coming from a good place.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: And I think that like, even if the Malfoys are bad,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I think that like there probably was still like some
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: good and some love in some moments. I mean, maybe
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: just between Draco and Narcissa, but it's it just isn't so.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: It isn't so black and white.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And I think I could see Molly and Arthur not
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: realizing the type of pressure that their kids were under.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was a malicious, intentional.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Thing to make Percy feel that way, or to make
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the twins feel that way, or to make Ron feel
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: It just kind of happened, and.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Like they were still great people and still great parents
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: despite it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: And I think, like.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Narcissa, I think, and I think I said this in
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the Malfoy episode two and we've already been alluding to it.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I think she was probably.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: A very good mother, like a very good mother, probably
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: one of the best mothers that we had in.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: This series, but still like.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: There was other things at play there, right, And I
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: think if she could have maybe pulled Draco away from
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: this life earlier, I.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Think maybe she would have.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And that doesn't make her like a bad person just
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: because she's a Malfoy and she's on this other side.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And so I think the whole point we're trying to
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: make here is that the show will have the opportunity
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll be able to see that more and
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: maybe start thinking about some of these characters in the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: gray more than like the movies made everything more black
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and white when it came.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: To a lot of characters.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, another character whose home life we're going to get
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: to explore a little bit more is Hermione. And this
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: is another thing that kind of got dropped after that
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: set visit. You know, it's Ben said that we're going
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: to see Hermione get her Hogwarts letter. There's also this
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: picture floating around of filming at King Cross and the
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: actor who plays Hermione's dad is in the background near
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the Weasleys, so we'll get some of those interactions. We'll
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: see Hermione at home, which is kind of cool.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I definitely.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I think this is just another example of what we've
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: been talking about that it does seem like there is
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of intentional choices being made for the show
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: to like focus on the characters, because at the end
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: of the day, like the characters are like what make
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the story and what make this world above and beyond
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: the plot, And this will be really cool too, Like
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: we obviously just talked about like being able to see
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the comparison between two very different wizarding families. But this
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: will open up the door to see, like what does
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: this look like for these muggle born children who like
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: get this Hogwarts letter and learn about this. I mean
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: we obviously we get it a little bit with Harry,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: but it's not the same. Like Harry's just in a
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: category of his own, and it's very.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Well know that the wizarding world exists.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Right, they were from him right theer what and there,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and we know like they're dentists, right, they're very intelligent
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: people like and to just to grapple with that, like
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: to be like.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Having it got to be a hoax, right or spam.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: As we would call it now, right, Like I think
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: it'll just be really interesting because we know we have
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of muggle born children and like what did
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: that look like for them when all of a sudden
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: they get this letter in the mail and they don't
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: have And to get that letter in the mail is
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: very you know, to compare to Harry.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, Harry had literally someone.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: From that world who is a wizard come and tell
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: him about it and show him. He got to see
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: you know that it's real but like Hermione, it's just
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: you're just like here's this.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Letter, right, do they send someone to all of the
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: muggle borns to kind of.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Do like did like a social worker.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Also to how would they know how to get into
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Diagon Alley to go shopping?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: That's like see and I hope we maybe explore that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: because like again, yeah, we only see that from Harry's perspective,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and he knows how to do it because he has Hagrid.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: They're guiding him.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Right, how would you possibly know? Like you would get
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: your supply list and be like cool, where do I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: buy this stuff?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Like the local Halloween costume store?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Like where am I going to find a cauldron with
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: the specific like inches of bottom thickness? Like I don't know?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Or do you think that like the muggle Born children
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: get like a couple extra letters in there that like
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: explain some of these things, or like me meet like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: a representative from Hogwarts will be at this place at
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: this time. Please meet there and we will guide you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: into Diagon Alley.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: They got to right, like yeah, you.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Know, why have I never Let's go back to like,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: you know, our Unanswered Questions episode and add this because
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I have never thought of that, how the heck do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: the Muggle the Muggle families know what to do?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Like you could, like sure you could say, hey, like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: go to this place, the Leaky Cauldron, and walk in
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: and then go out back and there's a brick wall,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: but like, how are you going to know what bricks
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: to do? Don't? Because I would it even work if
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you don't have a wand because Hagrid tops it with
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: his umbrella, which.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Is wond right because obviously the wizard families would get
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: there through wizard ways, like we see the Weezleys go
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: through Flute Like, yeah, well, I hope the show like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: answers this, and like I guess it'll be a question
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of whether it's we consider it canon or not, Like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: do we think that like jk Rowling like gave them
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I mean obviously we know that she's involved with the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: show in some way.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Did she get them to kind of like hey, this
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: is how you know? Here's Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I just picture this little Hogwarts representative meeting all the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: little muggle born children at this time?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Could it be detlistiggle though?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: And I picture them like as a tour group like
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: with the like yeah, and then they'll give them like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: a little umbrella and.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, everybody follow me, and like I just
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: I just picture it.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, these are the questions we want answered, is
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: like the logistics of this, and Hermione is like our
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: key to getting the answer to this logistics because she is,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: you know, a muggle born child that navigated this. And yeah,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: and I also want to see Hermione's dad and like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Arthur Weasley like interacted too.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I also really love the idea though, of like if
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: we're seeing Hermione get her Hogwarts letter, we're seeing Draco
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: at home. I like the idea that maybe the first
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: time all of these students are shown is not when
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: they're meeting at Hogwarts. Like, I think it's important to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: show them all earlier, like separately, because they are their own,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: separate characters and it's not like Hermione and Ron so
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: often just kind of get lumped in as like sidekicks
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: to Harry, but like they're their own people. So like,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a nice way to introduce
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: all these kids, is before they get to Hogwarts in
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: their individual situations and worlds, and then we see them
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: all come together.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: So another Hermione centric thing that we are getting is
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a look at the Gryffindor girls dormitory, which we never
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: get to see in the movies or the books. So
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: that's fun. And we know that the boys can't enter
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: because they would just go down the slide, So that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: means we're getting Hermione alone or Hermione with the other
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: girls in the dormitory, which is cool.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which again I think to the point you just made,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be really cool to see especially Ron
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: and Hermione as like their own separate people, because I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: do agree that, like, especially in the films, they do
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: really kind of get this like sidekick vibe because.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: There's that day without Harry, Like that's what we need
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to know and what we need to see.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Right and there, and their individual personalities and who they
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: are as individual.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: People is like essential to like their group dynamic and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: like the things they do together as a group.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: And obviously we get a lot of like Hermione's so smart,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: she's the brightest witchever Age and we wouldn't be here
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: without Hermione because she knows all these things. But like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: you know, but she's like she's also like more than that.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like she gets reduced a lot to just
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: being like this book smart no at all, and like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: she is like, don't get me wrong, she is a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: bad don't want to swear add the word smart.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Witch and they would.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Have died a million times without Hermione knowing the spell
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: or knowing something she read in a book. But she's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: more than that, I mean, And she says it too,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like books and cleverness only, you know, I mean, that's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: only a part of what gets you so far, you know.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: And it's like I just I don't, like, I don't
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: want her to ever feel reduced that she's only good
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: for her intelligence, because she's more than that. And like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: so it'll be very interesting to see like how, yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: how she interacts with the other girls, especially because like
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: we know that, like I mean, she doesn't really become
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: like really great friends with the other girls in a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: lot of ways, and like what was that dynamic, Like,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: like were these other girls just like jealous of her?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Like was it like what went into that?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Like I could I could see her getting picked on
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: and clearly not being like the popular ones. So maybe
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: like the clicks formed and she was kind of on
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the outside but then also you've got her being such
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: close friends with Harry. What does that do? Does that,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: like you said, does that create jealousy from the other
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: girls of like you're best friends with Harry Potter, Like
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: now we're jealous of you. I don't know.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think too, it'll be interesting to see
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I hope, like to jump into I guess like Chamber
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: of Secrets too, Like I hope, and when we get
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: that series that we also explore like what things were
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: like for Hermione and Ron when like a lot of
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: people started, you know, thinking like Harry was like the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: air like of Slytherin and was like, oh my god,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: he can talk to snakes and everybody's talking about him, right,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: and like what did that look like for Hermione and Ron,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: because like obviously, like they stood by him during all
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: of that, and like did they also experience that from people?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: We get to see it in the film from Harry's perspective, right,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: like he walks in and people are whispering about him
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: or looking at him, or it's very obvious to him,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: like people are talking about me, but like what about
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Hermione and Ron? And that's important to their character because
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I think despite everything, like who was with him till
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the end? It was them, even when Ron.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Goes through his little what he goes through.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: And goblet of fire, right, I mean, get a little
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: bit of a little temper tantrum kind of thing, if
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: that's what we want to call it, but at the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: end of the day, and like and then ironically it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: hap again with Ron later, but you know, he's a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: little influenced at the time. But we know that Ron,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I hope we explore that a little
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: bit more too. And now we're getting off the main
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: thing of the girl's dormitory. But again, I guess still
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: just talking about these extra character moments, and I'd love
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: to get more of like what was going through like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Ron's head when he was like kind of pulling back
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and what was going through like Hermione's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: head when she was stepping in in those moments, or
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: having to juggle the two friendships, or or even insourcers
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Stone before the three of them really became bonded, right,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Like everything starts with her like overhearing like Ron talking
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: smack about her, and then you know, and then they
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: and then they have this moment of bonding and then
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: they're inseparable after that, Like what was was part of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: that driven by the dynamics she had like with the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: girls in the dormitory, and it's just feeling very like
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: an outsider.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, be interesting.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: And this will also like give us an opportunity to
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: see some of the other like girl characters too, that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: are very much in the background in the films and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: but that we know are there and we know they've
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: already cast some of them, you know, right for this
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: first season, so we'll also get to kind of see
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: more about them.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And we've alluded to this a little bit
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: as we've been talking.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Of especially men leads to another thought and then you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: just go down the rabbit hole.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: But that's scenes that we hope that we see. So
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: what do you think, Nicole, what do you want to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: see in the series?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is when I saw this question in
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: the doc I was like, we could do a whole
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: episode like just on this section because there's so much
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: in the books that we don't But I mean, we've
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: definitely alluded this to this and actually my bullet point
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: looks like it's tied very much to your first bullet
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: point here is I'm just more excited to hopefully see
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: more about Valdemore's backstory and like the full backstory, because
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: we obviously just get like little glimpses of it in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: terms of like what we need to know. But there's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: so much they could explore there, right, Like we could
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: get so much more of Tom Riddle as like a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: little kid, as a teenager in like Chamber of Secrets
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: kind of era.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: We could get so much.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: At the orphanage.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I would love to see more about Baltimore, like not
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: like making the horror cruxes per se because that's a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: little dark, but like obtaining these items to like make
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the horror cruxes, Like could this be flashbacks? Like could
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: they do flashbacks with it? I was also thinking about obviously,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: like with Fantastic Beasts, we left a lot of unanswered
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: questions about Naghine and could the show pick that up
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: and could the show introt like through I mean obviously
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: would be through flashbacks like this. Obviously a lot of
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: these things were really heavily relying on flashbacks. But could
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: the could the show explore how Naghini and Valdemore came
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to be, because especially if we're focusing so much on Horcrux,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: is like they're opening the door to explaining a little
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: bit more about Naghini since we know that she has won. Yeah,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: so I just want more about Tom Riddle and Baltimore
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: and also exactly what you have in your first bullet point.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: I basically just want like half flood prints, Like my
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: that's that sums that. I just want everything we get
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: in Half Blood Prince.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: We want the show, yes, yeah, yeah, because yeah, my
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: first point was I want more Muropian Tom Riddles Senior,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: which I know I said last episode of when we
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: were talking about Muropi. But it would be so interesting
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: to see like her decision to take him off the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: love potion, what his reaction is when he stops taking
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: the love potion, her being alone and pregnant, trying to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: navigate that. Like there's just so much there that would
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: just make really good TV. Honestly.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I also no, I was just gonna say, just be
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: cool like it to kind of tie into like the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: first part with Valdemore's backstory, right, like that's that's part
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: of his backstory, and I think that like he's our
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: main villain, and like we do get a lot about
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: him and his backstory, but like we know there's more
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: there and there's more to explore, and like again, a
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people love a good villain backstory and it
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: really helps explain him and his motives, and like in
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: the movies, like we get it in the book and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: the movies we get kind of just like here's this
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: villain who's like out to get Harry, who doesn't want
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: to like die, and he had a little bit of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: a hard childhood and was in an orphanage.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, do we really We don't.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Really I might be missing something, but I feel like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: we don't really learn much else about him other than that,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: whereas like what we get in the books and like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: his backstory and his upbringing and his family and like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: again talking about family dynamics like.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Play a role in him his character.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I know, like we've already talked
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: about the pensive scenes and that we are going to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: get those in their entirety, which I think is so
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: important because when you think about the book scene with
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Dumbledore's memories of going to visit Tom Riddle at the orphanage,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: there's so much in that scene that makes it very
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: obvious that like yes, he had a crappy childhood, but
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: there's something about this person that like he is just
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: like inherently just bad. Like there's like those moments where
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: in Dumbledore's memory and like Harry watching this, where it's
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: just like certainly it's yeah, he's just yeah, something's not right.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that comes down to, you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: do you believe people are born evil or made evil?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And I think some art is born that way. No,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: no amount of he could have had the best childhood
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: in the world, he still probably would have ended up
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: being who he is. Yeah, So there there's so much
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: there that like could be shown to kind of show
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: that too.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: And it's something that is like I mean obviously the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: movies showed did depict that a little bit, but like
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: that scene is so short in the movie and.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: It just is like a taster. But I think that.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: It's you know, when thinking about things to cut out
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: when you're doing an adaptation, I think like the backstory
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: of your villain is something that is not something that
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I would immediately think would be on the chopping block.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I think that that actually would be something you'd really
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: want to include, especially if you have more time. And
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: obviously the movies included. I think I actually don't fault
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: what the movie is included. I don't think they would
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: have had time to include anything else. I think I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: do think that I will say, like I do love
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: those scenes and have with prints, but to the point
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: that I want to see more of it, and I
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: know there's more of it from the books.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: They were done really well, it just wasn't give me more.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Like I want to see more, and so I think
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: the show at least I hope that, yes, the movie
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: or the show will show us much more.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So then another thing I want to see.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I really want to see the Death Day party, just
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: because I love that chapter of the book so much.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: And then I also would love to see more of
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: the Order of the Phoenix and what they're doing, Like
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of the adults in the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Order of the Phoenix, like having meetings and like exchanging
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: information and stuff like that, because the kids are kind
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: of like banished to.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: The upstairs, so we are too.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would love to see, like put us
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: in that room when Snape is there giving his reports,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: like have us there for conversations about what Lupin has
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: to go and do amongst the werewolves, Like I want
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to know more about everyone's role in what was going
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: on on during that.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I agree because I think again comparing it to the movies,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: like you said, we don't get to see any of that,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: and a lot of our knowledge of what everybody's doing
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: is just because we read the books, and we know from.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: The books books it's pretty limited.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: That's something I think they could definitely, like you, like,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: like earlier when we were you know, talking about the flammeels, right, like,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: here's this one little kind of throwaway and let's expand it.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I think that everything that's kind of mentioned in order
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: of the Phoenix has the possibility to be like, let's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: grab this little line and expand on this, because I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: think this would be really interesting to see, and also
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: even getting scenes of like them doing said things would
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: be really interesting as well, and I think would make
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: really good TV and adds to the story but also
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: stays true to the story and also would be like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: I hope a lot of movie only watchers watch the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: TV show, like we said to to like really get
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: a sense of like this story is so much grander
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: and like has more depth than like you can even imagine.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: And it will fill in so many of those plot
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: holes and kind of give answers to things that maybe
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: they didn't know.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like my boyfriend, Yeah, you think about a lot
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: of a lot of his questions, like.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Well he's going to watch the show?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Like there's no he has no choice, There
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: is no.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: Choice in the matter. But I think that it will.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for those people that you know, are
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: really interested in the story, Like I hope that, yeah,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: seeing all these extra scenes will the eye opening and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll get more book readers because then, like I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: said earlier with Game of Thrones, right, maybe it'll inspire
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: more people to want to.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Read the books.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I think too, I hope that
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: we also just get it. I know we've talked a
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: lot about character moments of like our big characters, but
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I also hope we get to see like other little
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: things like I don't know, like with Fred and George
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: and like well you know them after they leave Hogwarts
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, setting up the joke shop and them
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: getting like Harry's Triwizard Tournament money, like like just like
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: those little things and those little interactions that like, of
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: course we're never gonna make the movies. But I think
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: are just really like wholesome things and good for character
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: and things that were going on in the background that
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: obviously were important enough to.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: Make them into the pages of the book. Yeah.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: And I mean again, like we said, we could talk
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: about this section forever, because there's a million things I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: can think of that I hope we see.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: But well, maybe we'll just have to revisit it.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Not a time.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I know, I need to like do a reread and
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: like flag all my pages of like I hope.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: This is in the show. I hope this is in
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can, Yeah, I can think of a ton.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I just also hope that like we get more like
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: serious black in the show. Yeah, yeah, I hope, like
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: and I think to your point, I think that would
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: also play in a lot with if they do more
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: with Order of the Phoenix and like the meetings with
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: the adults and everything, and that would obviously bring him in,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot more. I think that it's Unfortunately
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the movies, it's a very quick thing with him, right,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Like we get this introduction of who he is, we
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: learn he's not bad, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: you know, we get this brief little thing of him
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: and goblet of fire in the fire and then we
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: kind of just that's like it, and then he just
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: pops up in order of the Phoenix and then dies.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't even get him with buck Beak
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: and like buck Beak living at Grimmel Place. No, I'm singing,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: God rest you very hippogriffs.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Like there's so many like, oh my god, I just
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I just love Sirius so much. There's so many like
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: moments there. And I think to even like, you know,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: to the way the movies kind of have to rush
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: his character don't necessarily do a great job at explaining
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: like why Harry has such a reaction to him dying.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I mean we know why, right, Like he he's the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: closest person he has to his parents and he just
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: got him back in his life and now he's taken
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: from him. So it makes sense why Harry like feels
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: that way. But I think, like there's so much more
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: to like their relationship. Yeah that just doesn't get touched
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: on in the movies, but could have the opportunity to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: expand on in the show.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, there's so many opportunities.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: They better just plan to make those later books like
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: fifteen episodes.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: Yep, we don't wonder about money constraints and anything.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Obviously, please don't overwork anybody to film everything.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: But let's go back to the days when like.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Shows were like fifteen to twenty episodes a season, like Supernatural,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: like that show, like those are really long seasons.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: Let's go back to that.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: It's about to leave, grab on to the pok key,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: all right. So for our porty segment, we wanted to
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: talk about something going on at the Harry Potter New
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: York Store. So if you're heading to New York City
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: this summer, there's a new scavenger hunt going on at
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: the Harry Potter New York Store, and it's inspired by
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Fantastic Peace. Yay, we love it when Fantastic Beasts gets
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: some attention. So when you walk into the store, there's
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: a newspaper vending case with copies of The New York
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Ghost in it, which is the newspaper from those films,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: and that newspaper holds your instructions for the scavenger hunt,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: which the newspaper itself is a cute little souvenir. The
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: illustrations are really nice. So the way this works. There
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: are Niffler sculptures hidden throughout the store and you have
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: to find them all. So each Niffler has a corresponding
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: illustration in the newspaper, so you can mark them off
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: as complete when you find them. And once you find
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: them all, you can show your completed newspaper to a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: staff member for a prize, which the prize is not
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: super impressive. Gonna say, it's just a sticker. The button
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: that was given out for the Christmas one also wasn't
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: super impressive, but I think was better than a sticker.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: But the sticker's cue it has a Niffler on it.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: It's about the experience. Yeah, it's a fun doing.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: It, like we just got that button, but I think
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: it was really fun to do it, and it really
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: tested our knowledge. And I was gonna say, this sounds
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: much easier, yes, than what we did for the Christmas time.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see anything about word scrambles. Maybe there is,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: and maybe I'm mistaken, but this looks a little bit
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: more straightforward. But honestly, like I said, like the newspaper's
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: super cute, and like I would keep the newspaper as
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: a souvenir.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: So nice.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I like that the store is kind of always
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: adding little things like this to I guess encourage return visits,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: and then while you're there you're probably gonna buy something.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: But it it's fun. I think that. I think we
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: said this before. I just I just love that all this,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: like especially the New York Store, It's like it's more
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: than just a store. Like I just like that they
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: have experiences as part of it too.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's anoious.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: So in last episode, we asked the question do you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: think the centaurs know more than they let on? And
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: we got some really good responses from Jerry about this,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: and Jerry said, I think the centaurs do have some
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: deep wisdom and can see trends by their stargazing. However,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: many of them also share a weakness of being very
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: species centered, only really caring about how things impact centaurs
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: and to a lesser extent other magical folks like unicorns
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: and mayor people.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Friends.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Seems to be one of the few to see his
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: duty to society and the world as a whole and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: decide to try to help against evil, even if that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: evil isn't at the moment directed against centaurs. He realizes
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: that once evil has control, it will start looking to
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: destroy or use or abuse more groups. The rest would
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: be appalled if they realized they were almost as bigoted
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: as Professor Umbrage. She thinks only magical witches and wizards
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: are important, and they feel almost the same about centaurs.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I will say that I agree with this. I think
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: that there's a reason why Friends gets kind of like
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: ostracized from the rest is because he does meddle as
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: they would say a little bit more with the humans.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: And I think that the centaurs absolutely, to your point,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: do know more than they let on, but they're very
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: selective in who they share that with. And I think
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: if the centaurs shared more about what they thought, it
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: would have greater impact. But they kind of to you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: your point that you made there, Jerry, is their very
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: species centered so it's like we know this, but you
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: stupid humans don't.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: So good luck, which.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: They end up being impacted anyway, the centers do, so
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: like why they wouldn't speak up and maybe something could
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: be done sooner before it gets to the point of,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the Battle of Hogwarts where they have to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: be involved in the battle, like maybe you know, wouldn't
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: have had to have been.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I think, to Jerry's point, like it's their weakness of
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: being just a little too self centered and not thinking
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: that things are going to impact them because they just
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: stay out of things, right, they stay out of the affairs,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: but not.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Yeah, not our problem.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: We know what's gonna have, but it's not our problem
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: until it was too late and it became their problem too.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Jerry also shared some thoughts just about astronomy in general
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: in the books and said, I admit to being confused
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: as to why the students at Hogwarts study astronomy for
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: a minimum of five years.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: That actually is a really long time.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Jerry says, I don't see it as being used that
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: much compared with subjects like postion, charms, or transfiguration or
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: herbology that, along with history of magic, seem to make
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: up the core curriculum. Now, I admit that history of
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: magic as taught by Bin seems pretty useful also, but
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: in fact history is important. Those who don't remember history
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: are condemned to repeat it. I have developed the theory
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: that the real reason that the author had the students
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: taking astronomy was to be sure that they and the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: readers were all accustomed to the Astronomy Tower, often repeated
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: and stressed as the tallest tower in Hogwart's Castle. It
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: is the scene of at least three very important events.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: The transfer of Norbert to Charlie's friends, the capture of
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Harry and Hermione, getting them detention and massive loss of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: house points. Next, the student's viewing of Hagrid's arrest and
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: the stunning of Professor McGonagall during the Astronomy Owl practical exam,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: and of course the killing of Dumbledore. Other than set
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: up for that, I really think the other classes would
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: have been more useful and are interesting to fill that spot,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: so many that I don't have time to list them all.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: But just one other unrelated curriculum issue on the first
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: year book list is Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: But the students don't take a magical creature class until
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: their third year, and the textbook then is the Monster
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Book of Monsters. I wonder if they ever actually use
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Nut's book as a class textbook, although we know from
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: the margin notes in the first muggle Worthy edition put
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: out for charity that Harry and Ron read and enjoyed
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: the book, and I feel like Harry and Ron wouldn't
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: have just read the book unless they had to.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: So I feel like they probably had to read it
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: for something.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if they maybe had to read it
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: for defense against the dark arts, because I mean, in
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Lupin's classes, we see a lot of creatures introduced. Even
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Lockhart has the Pixies. I know this is a movie scene,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: but Quirrel, when we see him teaching, he's like, hold,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: he's got that. Yeah, so maybe maybe for that class
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: might relate to magical creatures. But yeah, I agree about
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: the astronomy tower though. I do think it is used
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: quite a bit for like setting and to give them
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: a bird's eye view of certain things, and like what
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: better reason to be outside really high up than stargazing,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it probably that's probably quite a
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: bit of it. Yeah, So our discussion question for this
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: episode is what book moment are you hoping to see
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: included in the Harry Potter HBO series. We would love
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: to hear from you, so you can drop us an
• 1:30:40
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• 1:30:44
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• 1:31:01
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• 1:31:06
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• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: conversations and bonus content, so go ahead and check that out.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I feel like now we have all
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: these episode ideas just after recording this one discussion that
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I have to go and put in our planning sheet.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I think I feel like lots of character
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: deep dives coming because we just seem to focus a
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: lot on the character moments. But yeah, no, I think
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: that I'm glad we did this episode because obviously, I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: know we've talked about some of these things in other episodes,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: but it's been obviously a little quiet on the Western
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: front as it comes to the show since we got
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: kind of that onslaught of trailer and documentary and then
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of been quiet.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: So interesting to see what we get over the summer.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like things should pick up because we're gonna
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: start setting into marketing season.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: So we're about six months out now that it's June,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: so Christmas in July.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe that means we get Harry Potter in July too.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Because maybe for Harry's birthday do we get something? Maybe
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, well, we will find out
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: and we'll report back next week if anything major happens.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Because we recorded, because Amy and Nicole recorded, let us
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: drop another trailer.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's gonna happen. Well, until then, I'm Amy and
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I'm Nicole. Mischief managed