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Please Don't Use Gendered Language, Eh! · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: Please don't use gendered language. A it's one more thing.
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  Speaker 2: One more thing. I haven't heard that clip in forever.
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  Speaker 2: We used to play that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, longtime listeners will get that reference. It's from a
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  Speaker 1: meeting of the socialist Democratic Socialists of America meeting a
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  Speaker 1: number of years ago when they were their original thing,
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  Speaker 1: which was soft headed jackasses and college professors who thought,
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  Speaker 1: give us a chance to implement socialism, we'll do it right.
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  Speaker 2: And then it was taken over by the militant left.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when some guys stood up and well.
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  Speaker 1: That was the militant left was like after this. This
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  Speaker 1: is back when it was still just the softheads and
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  Speaker 1: professors from my understanding. But anyway, we're going to set
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  Speaker 1: up the listening into Canada's new Democratic Party com friends
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  Speaker 1: with a fond look back at the Democratic Socialists before
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  Speaker 1: they turned hateful and violent. Do you got to have
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  Speaker 1: those handy Michael, who can forget these clips?
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  Speaker 3: Quick point of privilege? Quick point of personal privilege?
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, James Jackson, Sacramento, he him. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to say, can we please keep the chatter to
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  Speaker 4: a minimum. I'm one of the people who's very very
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  Speaker 4: prone to sensory overload. There's a lot of whispering and
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  Speaker 4: chatter going on. It's making it very difficult for me
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  Speaker 4: to focus. Please can we just I know it's we're
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  Speaker 4: all fresh and ready to go, but can we please
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  Speaker 4: just keep the chatter to a minimum. It's affecting my
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  Speaker 4: ability to focus.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, comrade.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, is there a speaker against name.
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  Speaker 6: Chapter point of personal privilege? Yes, please do not use
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  Speaker 6: gendered language to address everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So it became yeah, I remember when we were
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  Speaker 2: playing that. It became very clear that with that crowd
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  Speaker 2: you would never be able to get anything done.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they can't get out of their own ways.
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  Speaker 7: Point of privilege?
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  Speaker 2: Are we just going to ignore the fact that we're
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  Speaker 2: having this conversation on land once owned by the Iroquois?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? Exactly the intersectional narcissism, small distinctions of self obsession thing,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't get anything done. One more clip of that.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll move on to the Canadians.
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  Speaker 7: And additionally, with the noise issue, like avoid hissing, avoid
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  Speaker 7: waving banners, right, because there's all sorts of things if
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  Speaker 7: you don't know what to do, show up these right,
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure there's lots of ways that we can communicate
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  Speaker 7: to each other without needing to rely on something that's
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  Speaker 7: going to hurt somebody else. We have quiet rooms that
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  Speaker 7: are available. There's a range of options of these. Right,
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  Speaker 7: Please don't go in that space with anything that's like
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  Speaker 7: an aggressive scent, for instance. Right, So, we don't want
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  Speaker 7: to put people in stressful situations that they don't consent to. Right,
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  Speaker 7: And there are right wing infiltrators who are trying to
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  Speaker 7: get in here, but it's going to be really traumatic
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  Speaker 7: for people if we're not making an affirmative effort to
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  Speaker 7: de escalate each other and de escalate ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: All right, take the deep breath.
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  Speaker 2: Is this real?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, don't feel better before you say anything.
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  Speaker 2: I had forgotten how I had forgotten how over the
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  Speaker 2: top that was.
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  Speaker 1: How do they go outside?
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  Speaker 2: I know? And the idea you could get anything done
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  Speaker 2: a point of privilege. Getting anything done is white supremacy.
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  Speaker 2: That's white supremacist language. So getting anything to stop saying
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  Speaker 2: we're not gonna get anything done, insisting on starting on
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  Speaker 2: time is white privilege. That's white supremacy. I had forgotten
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  Speaker 2: the various quiet rooms they had, but did not go
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  Speaker 2: in there with an aggressive sense.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's your sobering note. You hate how I
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  Speaker 1: you know how I hate to be sober. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of generations of college students who believe all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff and they think that's the way you show
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  Speaker 1: your enlightenment.
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  Speaker 2: And the whole we have white right wingers who want
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  Speaker 2: to infiltrate. We don't need to, We don't need to
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  Speaker 2: infiltrate to cause any problems. You just do, you record it,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll play black back the clips for people
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  Speaker 2: who will realize you're all nuts.
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  Speaker 1: The last thing we're going to do is get in your.
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  Speaker 2: Way, right, You're not going to stop you.
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  Speaker 1: So on that note, you've got Canada's new Democratic Party conference,
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  Speaker 1: which is trying to harness the energy on the left
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  Speaker 1: and become a force in Canadian politics, and we've got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of audio from their recent convention get together.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just start with thirty Michael and go from there.
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  Speaker 1: You should know that. And I'm not sure they self identify.
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  Speaker 1: This is an Asian trans delegate.
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  Speaker 3: There is a point. Let's hear the point on microphone one.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, just real quick point of personal privilege. I
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  Speaker 8: understand there's very little time and for delegates to speak,
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  Speaker 8: but early on the mic, it's hard as a racialized
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  Speaker 8: and transgender delegate to sometimes use this card and speak up,
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  Speaker 8: speak to somebody in front of me in line and
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  Speaker 8: ask hey, this pertains to multiple intersecting parts of my
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  Speaker 8: lived experience. I'd like to speak. I was rejected when
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  Speaker 8: I talked, and it's frustrating when these are my rights
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  Speaker 8: being directly under attack right now in Alberta. And that
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  Speaker 8: assist gender woman had spoken over me, and I understand
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  Speaker 8: her rights are important to This pertains to her too,
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  Speaker 8: but I don't know. I hope that in the future
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  Speaker 8: the federal NDP will also have a broader interpretation of
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  Speaker 8: the equity cards for speakers.
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  Speaker 2: That's all, thank you, This is this.
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  Speaker 1: The NDP is the new Democratic Party. Just so you
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  Speaker 1: don't lose track, all right. Adrian Smith is one of
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  Speaker 1: the leaders of this. Here's her response.
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  Speaker 5: I will invite delegates to assist me in better using
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  Speaker 5: the card by forming a straight, straight line behind the
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  Speaker 5: microphone with a prominently distate equity card. If I see
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  Speaker 5: speakers ahead of you who are not holding a card prominently,
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  Speaker 5: it would be wrong with me.
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  Speaker 3: To guess about their gender identity, and I will come
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 9: This applies so far according to your rule for gender
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  Speaker 9: identities other than a dude, but it is open to
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  Speaker 9: us to change our rules as we like, as we
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  Speaker 9: move forward into the bright and golden future.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you friends. Let's hear the balloting co.
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  Speaker 1: Chairs and here's where they discussed further these gender equity
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  Speaker 1: cards that I guess everybody has to carry.
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  Speaker 5: There's a point of privilege on microphone one. Then we'll
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  Speaker 5: go to microphone three. Go ahead, delegate.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, hello, I was standing here with my gender equity
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  Speaker 10: card before you called on the previous speaker.
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  Speaker 3: That's my point of privilege, and I would like to her.
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  Speaker 5: I will explain this speaking order which is fixed that
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  Speaker 5: I cannot amend, which is the pro con rotation. You
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  Speaker 5: can move yourself up a line that you're standing and
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  Speaker 5: I am pro, and I was. We went pro.
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  Speaker 3: And my plan was to go con.
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  Speaker 5: The speaker at Convite three also has a speaking card.
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  Speaker 10: Yesterday, this card was used in an inappropriate matter, and
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  Speaker 10: while I understand in Ontario we know this is equity,
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  Speaker 10: even if that this was also used inappropriate in terms
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  Speaker 10: of gender. I want everyone to be mindful that these
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  Speaker 10: cards for individuals like myself who identify as a black
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  Speaker 10: woman have no value outside of this space.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I must remind you these people want to run
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  Speaker 1: the government. Wait till you hear this one so oh
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  Speaker 1: so wait then get to thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: Michael, Yeah, it's like Fred Armison wrote this for Portlandia.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just amazing that this is real.
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  Speaker 2: So each person has to come up with a way
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  Speaker 2: to like top the previous person on how No, you
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  Speaker 2: thought you were offended? No, no, no, I am offended
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  Speaker 2: or oppressed or pressed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you oppressed me, but I'm oppressed. Well that may be, but.
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  Speaker 2: You sorry, the two of you, you're both oppressing me
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  Speaker 2: because of it's just a climbing the ladder.
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  Speaker 1: Well, naturally you've got to go to the chairperson to
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  Speaker 1: settle this dispute, right, and in clip thirty one, here's
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  Speaker 1: how it went.
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  Speaker 11: Canada cannot and will not be part of the legacy
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  Speaker 11: of blood that was built in Iraq, in Palestine and
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  Speaker 11: now in Iran.
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  Speaker 3: This is a no question debate.
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  Speaker 11: I call this question Adam and chairs, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Your point's quite well made.
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  Speaker 5: Speaker Again, thank delegates, not to call me madame chair?
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  Speaker 3: Who madame a president? I'm a non binary person. My
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  Speaker 3: pronouns are they of them? And their chair is sufficient?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh.
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  Speaker 1: That's priceless. So this gal brings the thunder of ho
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  Speaker 1: you know, anti is real pro Palestine blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And the response is, uh, don't call me madame Chairhanman
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  Speaker 1: a non binary person, my pronouns are they them? There?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about this, many words have been
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  Speaker 2: written about it, but it's still hard for me to
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  Speaker 2: wrap my head around. And like Katie said, how do
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  Speaker 2: you go out of your house? How do you engage
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  Speaker 2: the world and not just spend all day long miserably offended?
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  Speaker 2: They do? I guess they do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little more unintentional comedy thirty two Michael,
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  Speaker 1: it's a point of go ahead.
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  Speaker 12: It's got a point of privilege. The microphone seemed really
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  Speaker 12: low today. It's hard to hear everyone at the mic
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  Speaker 12: between the background noise and the volume in here with
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  Speaker 12: the microphones is really hard to hear.
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  Speaker 13: And the cult close.
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  Speaker 12: Caption also is slower to make it hard to keep
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  Speaker 12: up with what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: That was a lady and what way?
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  Speaker 2: What did that was? Was it?
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  Speaker 1: Lady? What was that.
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  Speaker 2: First thing she said?
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  Speaker 1: What was low? The mics are too low.
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  Speaker 13: I want to hit every single person we just heard,
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  Speaker 13: just to let you know. Oh, I know, all right,
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  Speaker 13: at least one thirty three Michael.
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  Speaker 2: My pronounce are she heard?
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  Speaker 3: L and ran.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be really hard to follow.
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  Speaker 14: Rob Ashton, amazing speaker. We are working class party. I
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  Speaker 14: think most of us in this room are behind that.
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  Speaker 14: And while we can debate on the specific words and
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  Speaker 14: who is and isn't included, I think our constitution needs
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  Speaker 14: to recognize that, and I also recognize.
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  Speaker 1: There is I'm sorry, I'm just speaking way too fast.
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  Speaker 8: Let me slow down for the close captioning.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm so sorry. I get excited.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I have the right to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, you're a dude. They're all so happy with themselves.
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  Speaker 2: There's got to be among them, though, even the people
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  Speaker 2: that buy into that stuff. I would think there'd be
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  Speaker 2: some of them saying, I'm not sure we can get
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  Speaker 2: anything done because we'll never stop with the.
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  Speaker 1: Point of order.
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  Speaker 2: Point of order, Madam Chair, this is aggressive, Madam Chair.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the temperature in the room is aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: I temperature sent an aggressive scent.
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  Speaker 1: Don't call me, madam chair, don't correct me. I'm dyslexic. Okay, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: What did that last guy say?
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  Speaker 13: I'm a she her lase FOI what the what was.
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  Speaker 1: That it was? He was also giving his pronouns, which
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  Speaker 1: are oddly female in French. Police.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, how culturally diverse of him. Wow, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 13: We can't do stuff like this when I'm not allowed
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  Speaker 13: to drink. This is not fair.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to attend one of these. Just come up
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  Speaker 1: with all sorts of fake grievances and see what they do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, please do that. Somebody just said, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: that's ablest. I don't have any hands exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But then, Michael, when you let on and said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I was clowning you people, they would say, in.
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  Speaker 2: What way point of privilege? My dad was a clown
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  Speaker 2: and was abusive.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a point of order, Madam Chair. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they then chair, that was a white male who is
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  Speaker 1: abused by a clown. We have a black transgender delegate
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  Speaker 1: who is abused by a clown. And the white male
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  Speaker 1: spoke before the transgender delegate even though she heard it
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  Speaker 1: displayed heard them's gender parody card, Madam chair, I mean chairperson.
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  Speaker 2: Thing point of privilege. I find the chair term offensive.
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  Speaker 2: And there are parts of the world where they squat.
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  Speaker 2: They do not have chairs. Making I'm in a wheelchair.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an unabled delegate, and it is ableism to refer
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  Speaker 1: to a chair.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't go far enough to get like outside of where
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  Speaker 2: it could go.
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  Speaker 1: Right again, they would not recognize that you were mocking.
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  Speaker 12: Now.
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  Speaker 13: They would have taken everything that jo of you just said,
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  Speaker 13: very seriously exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that is just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: God.
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  Speaker 2: I hope my kids I don't think they will. They're
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  Speaker 2: pretty hardcore the other direction right now, I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 2: I say, I hope neither one of my kids end
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  Speaker 2: up there, but I don't think that'll happen. They both
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  Speaker 2: would react to that the same way we've all react
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  Speaker 2: to it. That is too much. I'd forgotten how good
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  Speaker 2: that one was for a couple of years ago. Though
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  Speaker 2: about the quiet rooms, but don't go in there with
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  Speaker 2: an aggressive scent. Thank you, comrade, Yeah, thank you, comrade.
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  Speaker 1: I'm calling for account of the balls in the room.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing it would be very, very low.
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  Speaker 6: Please do not use gendered language to address everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it. Guy sounded like he was
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  Speaker 2: gonna die.
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  Speaker 1: He was so fired up, he was so offended. Please stop,
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  Speaker 1: you say dirtline.