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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hmm, welcome back to Cuffs Basement. I am, but we're
- 0:38Speaker 1: not in cuss basement. This is gonna this is gonna
- 0:40Speaker 1: feel weird. So we just recorded like the first like
- 0:43Speaker 1: twenty minutes of this episode and then it didn't record,
- 0:47Speaker 1: so we're starting over. But anyways, I'm so sorry for
- 0:49Speaker 1: being repetitive, Ryan, but.
- 0:50Speaker 2: We're nots by just like running through it as quick
- 0:54Speaker 2: as possible.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So we are not in cups basement. We are in
- 0:59Speaker 1: Ryan's addic kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, and we're we're
- 1:03Speaker 1: in Waltham. And the last time we did a podcast
- 1:06Speaker 1: in your in Waltham in your room was Jurassic World Dominion,
- 1:11Speaker 1: which was the we forgot sixth Jurassic Park movie. So
- 1:17Speaker 1: there was an original trilogy and Jurassic Park one, two,
- 1:21Speaker 1: and three. Then there was the second trilogy, so Jurassic
- 1:24Speaker 1: World was the first movie of the second trilogy was
- 1:27Speaker 1: the fourth movie overall. Then there was Jurassic Park Fallen Kingdom,
- 1:33Speaker 1: Jassic World, sorry, Jurassic World Falling Kingdom. Then Jurassic World
- 1:37Speaker 1: Dominion was six So Jurassic Park one is one of
- 1:42Speaker 1: the best movies of all time too. Lost World is
- 1:45Speaker 1: Solid's moments. Solid three. I always liked three. I always
- 1:52Speaker 1: liked three.
- 1:53Speaker 3: People ship on it, but they just knew what to do.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Yeah, they knew what to do. Four, which is Jurassic
- 2:00Speaker 1: Old One, was solid solid. Then five, which was Fallen
- 2:06Speaker 1: Kingdom Jurassic World Fon Kingdom, which we saw in.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Well, I saw, were you there? I was not there.
- 2:13Speaker 3: That is the only one I have not seen in theaters.
- 2:14Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Well I saw it at a drive in and it
- 2:19Speaker 1: was terrible, awful. I hated it. So I was like,
- 2:25Speaker 1: all right, for six, I'm not seeing six in the theater.
- 2:29Speaker 1: And that was Jurassic World Dominion. But then I saw
- 2:32Speaker 1: the trailer. Alan Grant, Samuel's back, Ian Malcolm Jeffrey.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Goldblum was back. How would you? How could?
- 2:38Speaker 1: I was saying, Ellie Sadler's back, muldoon is back, Hammond's back,
- 2:43Speaker 1: Gennaro's back, Nedree's back.
- 2:46Speaker 3: We were talking about that. Muldun's like a cyborg.
- 2:50Speaker 1: He would definitely have a bazookah. But so no, so
- 2:54Speaker 1: I was like, I funk, I have to see this.
- 2:56Speaker 1: So we saw six in the theater together Dominion, and
- 2:59Speaker 1: it was awful. Scept I broke my promise to myself.
- 3:04Speaker 3: I saw in the.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Theater, regretted it, huge mistake, and then I said again,
- 3:11Speaker 1: I'm not seeing seven and if seven comes out, So
- 3:15Speaker 1: then seven did come out. It was called Jurassic World.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Rebirth came out in twenty twenty five, starring Scarlett Johansson
- 3:21Speaker 1: and Marshall Ali. But I really enjoy both of them.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. So interesting director choice too, I like him.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I also think Scarlett Johansson is looking like better than ever.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Looks great.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And who's the director?
- 3:34Speaker 3: It was Gareth Edwards.
- 3:35Speaker 2: He did the twenty fourteen Godzilla, he did Rogue One,
- 3:39Speaker 2: just done a movie called Monsters. Oh, I did a
- 3:44Speaker 2: movie called the Oh my God, it was the CGI
- 3:47Speaker 2: one the creator.
- 3:49Speaker 3: So interesting choice for that kind of thing.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Also, I said this last time, but I want to
- 3:52Speaker 1: mention it again because it is really good. So Liquid
- 3:54Speaker 1: Death makes a sparkling water seltzer that is clear, but
- 3:59Speaker 1: the labor is cola and I think it's very good.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Oh we should also mention too. Glad we're actually doing
- 4:05Speaker 2: this again. This movie is written by the person who
- 4:07Speaker 2: wrote the first movie, David Kevin.
- 4:10Speaker 1: No, it's not.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Wow.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I promised myself I wouldn't see it.
- 4:18Speaker 1: But then there was all these reviews that were like
- 4:21Speaker 1: this is okay, like this is you know, Scarletohnson and
- 4:24Speaker 1: Meershali are good. It's way better than the last two
- 4:27Speaker 1: movies five and six. And I was like, should I
- 4:31Speaker 1: go see this in the theater because it's just such
- 4:33Speaker 1: a theater movie. Yeah, And then I said, no, I'm
- 4:36Speaker 1: not doing it. I'm not and I didn't.
- 4:39Speaker 2: A big bait with this for me too is they
- 4:40Speaker 2: put the first potse teaser trailer on this movie in theaters?
- 4:46Speaker 1: Really, so you saw this in the theater? I did, yeah,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and I never saw it. And then I was, you know,
- 4:55Speaker 1: like I act like I'm so smart and like Shannon
- 4:57Speaker 1: watches stupid reality shows and I watch really good movies
- 5:00Speaker 1: when she's not around because she's too domed to watch
- 5:03Speaker 1: them with me. Like That's how I act. But then
- 5:05Speaker 1: when Shannon was gone all last weekend, I just haded
- 5:07Speaker 1: to watch Jurassic World Rebirth by myself because it was
- 5:11Speaker 1: free on Peacock and I watched it and it was
- 5:14Speaker 1: fucking terrible. It was goddamn dog shit awful. What are
- 5:20Speaker 1: we doing.
- 5:22Speaker 3: The last one?
- 5:23Speaker 2: We talked about it before the last one literally made
- 5:26Speaker 2: one point four billion dollars.
- 5:29Speaker 3: There was no chance in how they weren't making another
- 5:31Speaker 3: one two or three years later. There was no chance.
- 5:34Speaker 3: It was It was clearly made to make a movie.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And you know, was it as bad as five and six?
- 5:40Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't.
- 5:41Speaker 2: I don't think it's as bad as five or six.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I think it's my thing with this movie is it's fine.
- 5:46Speaker 2: I also had very minimal expectations for it.
- 5:50Speaker 1: But I think it's it's in the ballpark of as
- 5:54Speaker 1: bad as five and six. If maybe it's not as
- 5:56Speaker 1: bad as five and six. There's so many things I
- 5:58Speaker 1: hated about this movie. They so Matt Damon was recently
- 6:03Speaker 1: on a podcast and him and Ben Affleck did the
- 6:05Speaker 1: rip for Netflix. And most people don't talk about this,
- 6:08Speaker 1: but Matt Damon can kind of do whatever he wants,
- 6:09Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. Talks about how Netflix has a
- 6:11Speaker 1: formula and they want a big action sequence in the
- 6:14Speaker 1: first five minutes. Yeah, which is the opposite of like
- 6:17Speaker 1: every good movie that you know, Jurassic Park. I mean,
- 6:21Speaker 1: Jurassic Park has the shoot opening. But whatever, the movie
- 6:26Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about later tonight, and this isn't a
- 6:29Speaker 1: Netflix movie. But now everybody's doing this this, this is
- 6:32Speaker 1: on peacocks. I'm not blaming a Netflix for this, but
- 6:34Speaker 1: they do this with this. The past two movies have
- 6:38Speaker 1: been talking about, or the past three movies now I
- 6:43Speaker 1: have been talking about how they make like dinosaurs aren't
- 6:45Speaker 1: enough for people. Dinosaurs are boring, so they have to
- 6:48Speaker 1: make super dinosaurs, where let's take the most dangerous possible.
- 6:52Speaker 5: Thing imaginable and create it.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And these Dominus rex in four can go invisible. And
- 6:58Speaker 1: you said to me, like, why would that ever be
- 7:00Speaker 1: a benefit for a zoo.
- 7:02Speaker 3: It makes no sense. That was the problem in the
- 7:04Speaker 3: first movie. The diaturs wouldn't come out.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Yes, just like, so they make this, they designed this, this,
- 7:10Speaker 1: this monster giant creature, and it's called the distortis Rex.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Distortis Rex.
- 7:15Speaker 1: And for the design they said in the build up, like, oh,
- 7:18Speaker 1: it was inspired by hr Geegers Alien and like the
- 7:23Speaker 1: mix with the t Rex mixes this mix with that.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 7:27Speaker 1: That's the opening scene and then we don't see that
- 7:29Speaker 1: dinosaur again until the very end of the movie, which
- 7:32Speaker 1: I thought was odd. And another thing I hated is
- 7:39Speaker 1: there's a lot of throwbacks to the first movie, because
- 7:43Speaker 1: everybody knows that's the best one, that's everybody's favorite. There's
- 7:47Speaker 1: one of the most famous scenes in one, also in
- 7:50Speaker 1: film history is the kitchen scene with the raptors where
- 7:53Speaker 1: the two children are trying to escape and hide from
- 7:56Speaker 1: the raptors in the kitchen and the whole Wrestling has
- 8:03Speaker 1: vignettes in pro wrestling where if they're gonna introduce a
- 8:06Speaker 1: new wrestler, a new character, they're not gonna appear on
- 8:08Speaker 1: TV and wrestle. They're gonna like, for you're watching Raw,
- 8:12Speaker 1: you're watching SmackDown, there's gonna be like a thirty second
- 8:14Speaker 1: vignette of this guy, and you're like, oh, what's the
- 8:17Speaker 1: deal with this guy? He seems mysterious, you don't really
- 8:19Speaker 1: even fully see him. And they do this for, you know,
- 8:22Speaker 1: a month or two before he actually wrestles. Then he
- 8:25Speaker 1: comes out and cleans, cleans, mops the floor with some jobber.
- 8:30Speaker 1: So in Dress Park one, the entire movie is building
- 8:33Speaker 1: up how terrifying the raptors are. We have the scene
- 8:38Speaker 1: with Grant and the kid with the claw on his belly.
- 8:41Speaker 1: They have the shooter scene, they have the raptors eating
- 8:45Speaker 1: the cow. Just the noises they make.
- 8:47Speaker 2: They also show you the baby version of it too,
- 8:50Speaker 2: like they just give you and it's crazy now you
- 8:52Speaker 2: say that again. It's like they also show you because
- 8:55Speaker 2: the raptor is the one when they're on the site
- 8:57Speaker 2: they find the skeleton of too when he's talking to
- 8:59Speaker 2: the kid, that's the skeleton.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Sorry, that's the fossil. The fossil.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a weird how like we're gonna show
- 9:05Speaker 2: you the dead version, we're gonna show you the baby version,
- 9:08Speaker 2: and they just never show you the prime version until later.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:12Speaker 1: So and then they make the joke unless raptors figure
- 9:14Speaker 1: out how to open doors, and then they open the
- 9:16Speaker 1: door and they breathe in the window. So it's just
- 9:19Speaker 1: incredits a master class and how to make a film
- 9:22Speaker 1: and how to build up a villain. And then in
- 9:24Speaker 1: this movie they recreate the kitchen scene with these dinosaurs
- 9:28Speaker 1: that you don't even know what they are. They never
- 9:30Speaker 1: even mentioned what species they are, which they never do
- 9:33Speaker 1: that in Jurassic Park. Yeah, and they're these just they
- 9:35Speaker 1: they're kind of like raptors, but they're obviously not, and
- 9:38Speaker 1: they can fly, and it's it's almost like you just
- 9:42Speaker 1: don't take them seriously. As a threat. It's almost like
- 9:45Speaker 1: in in like cong Skull Island or something like that,
- 9:49Speaker 1: which I'm not shitting on that movie. I love them though,
- 9:51Speaker 1: I love them, but it's so fucked. But when you
- 9:53Speaker 1: see this like massive CGI Creature, it's not you're not
- 9:57Speaker 1: actually scared as a viewer because it's more like fun chaos. Yeah,
- 10:01Speaker 1: and you don't you know, I don't know everything's a
- 10:03Speaker 1: threat in this movie, so like whatever. Yeah, So these
- 10:06Speaker 1: things just appear and you don't take them seriously. You
- 10:09Speaker 1: don't know what they are.
- 10:10Speaker 3: There's been no build up.
- 10:11Speaker 1: You don't even know what kind of dinosaur they are.
- 10:13Speaker 1: And it's just awful. It's awful storytelling. Yeah, and it's
- 10:17Speaker 1: sad that this is a good writer and good director.
- 10:18Speaker 1: I don't know if the studio was involved.
- 10:21Speaker 2: It's it's made because it's studio, right, I mean, it's like,
- 10:24Speaker 2: this is money we're gonna lose. Let's put one out,
- 10:26Speaker 2: Like there's no way, especially because this one also made
- 10:28Speaker 2: a pretty decent amount of money.
- 10:29Speaker 3: There's just no way. They're not gonna make Jurassic Park
- 10:31Speaker 3: movies anymore. There's just no way.
- 10:33Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, like you can keep making
- 10:35Speaker 1: these movies and I'm in just try to have them
- 10:37Speaker 1: be a little good.
- 10:39Speaker 2: But I think, like, what like what would be like
- 10:42Speaker 2: like I always say this, like the Bend quote. I
- 10:44Speaker 2: think it's hysterical of like the Bachelor party cruise ship
- 10:47Speaker 2: that crashes on Eastland Newblar. Sure, yeah, see, I'm in
- 10:51Speaker 2: it's all like like as I was saying to you
- 10:53Speaker 2: before when we were doing the we talked about this
- 10:55Speaker 2: on the Best of the Year.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Did we talk about this with on Best Year?
- 11:00Speaker 1: He hadn't seen it.
- 11:01Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Okay, Like this movie has like two scenes. I'm like, okay,
- 11:05Speaker 2: well that was like different than other movies did, like
- 11:08Speaker 2: they like they have the most of saurus thing you
- 11:10Speaker 2: were talking about.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Oh I forgot to mention that.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll mention that a second.
- 11:15Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, Like I never like I
- 11:17Speaker 2: never expected like a water chase in Jurassic Park because
- 11:20Speaker 2: like the mosasaurus was a real dinosaur and like to
- 11:23Speaker 2: have him kind of do that was really interesting and
- 11:26Speaker 2: kind of have the mosasaurce almost like lead them into
- 11:28Speaker 2: the island was pretty cool.
- 11:30Speaker 1: But about the family, So so this in in the
- 11:35Speaker 1: universe of Jurassic Park.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Now dinosaurs are.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Just free across the entire world because Owen decided that
- 11:43Speaker 1: like oh and Billy Badass, Chris Pratt's character, who, thank god,
- 11:46Speaker 1: is not in these movies anymore. I hate Chris Pratt.
- 11:49Speaker 1: I hate I hate what he has become in real life.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I hate his character. Owen and I like, oh god,
- 11:56Speaker 1: I don't even want to.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Go down this rabbit hole.
- 11:58Speaker 1: But when when they're like, let's see what is up
- 12:00Speaker 1: to and they they find him in the old movie,
- 12:03Speaker 1: the prior movie, and he's building a house alone in
- 12:07Speaker 1: the wilderness by himself. He's building a house from scrap.
- 12:10Speaker 1: What a man this guy is. I mean, uh, he's
- 12:15Speaker 1: a wanna be shark wrangler from d pluc but he
- 12:19Speaker 1: so this this father takes his family sailing where people
- 12:25Speaker 1: know Moses Saurus lives in the ocean, and he's like, well, yeah,
- 12:28Speaker 1: but it's unlikely we're going to be attacked. It's like
- 12:31Speaker 1: not taking your family out because of great white sharks
- 12:33Speaker 1: in a sailboat. Not really the same thing. So they
- 12:37Speaker 1: get attacked by Moses Saurus. None of them die.
- 12:39Speaker 3: They're very lucky.
- 12:41Speaker 1: And Andy Juno was talking about manufactured attention. So they
- 12:44Speaker 1: get rescued by this rescue boat and the family hates
- 12:47Speaker 1: the rescuers, and Andy Juno is just like, this is
- 12:50Speaker 1: seems forced and stupid.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Because I think they overhear them talking about like what
- 12:54Speaker 2: they're planning to do there. Yeah, so the team is
- 12:56Speaker 2: there to grab samples of each certain types of dinasa
- 13:00Speaker 2: to bring back.
- 13:01Speaker 1: That was another thing. Yeah, so they said, we just
- 13:03Speaker 1: need the plot of the movies, they're solving heart disease. Yes,
- 13:07Speaker 1: so we need to get a sample for the from
- 13:09Speaker 1: the biggest dinosaurs, Yeah, to solve heart disease. And then
- 13:13Speaker 1: they said in the three biggest dinosaurs are well, there's
- 13:17Speaker 1: one in this in the sea, the Mosasaurus, there's one
- 13:20Speaker 1: on land, and there's the Gigantosaurus or Titanosaurus or something
- 13:24Speaker 1: Titanosaurus I think, and there's one in the air. And
- 13:27Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that doesn't make any sense. That's a
- 13:30Speaker 1: video game quest to get to fight a boss in
- 13:33Speaker 1: the air, the sea and the land, and there are
- 13:35Speaker 1: much bigger dinosaurs like you.
- 13:37Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely again, I think, just totally written to
- 13:42Speaker 2: make a movie and kind of just make it and
- 13:43Speaker 2: like because you have the different quests, your variety of
- 13:47Speaker 2: different dinosaurs they can put in the movie. So even
- 13:49Speaker 2: if like the quest was as stupid as it is, again,
- 13:53Speaker 2: you can craft like interesting action scenes with these types
- 13:57Speaker 2: of times. They've done the what the pterodactyl It's the
- 14:01Speaker 2: end of Lost World is the pterodactyls?
- 14:03Speaker 3: Then the third movie?
- 14:04Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I think they just kind of like
- 14:07Speaker 2: frantically fly around.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Actually it's kind of amazing in Drastic World. But I'm
- 14:11Speaker 3: like so many of.
- 14:13Speaker 2: The dinosaurs that's kind of they just like show and
- 14:15Speaker 2: do nothing with or they'll just be like like we
- 14:18Speaker 2: talked about with Dominion, like the Officsaurus. I was like
- 14:21Speaker 2: that had like one of the most horrifying like scene
- 14:24Speaker 2: like death scenes ever. It was just so gross to watch,
- 14:27Speaker 2: and it was just so scary because it's so small,
- 14:29Speaker 2: like it can fit into your car and stuff, which
- 14:31Speaker 2: makes it more concerning. Yes, and it's like these things
- 14:34Speaker 2: never show up again until and they barely were in
- 14:37Speaker 2: the three Hours of Dominion because the bugs needed a backstory.
- 14:40Speaker 3: But like it baffles me when like what mad Like.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Everyone's like, well, we're trying to recapture Like they do
- 14:47Speaker 2: a whole scene in this movie where like, like you said,
- 14:49Speaker 2: they're playing back scenes from the first movie to like
- 14:52Speaker 2: kind of like recapture that idea. But you can't write,
- 14:55Speaker 2: you can't read that again, you can't they band.
- 14:57Speaker 3: It off again.
- 14:58Speaker 2: And what may makes me mad is that, like they
- 15:02Speaker 2: have a scene later with the family with the t rex,
- 15:05Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit, this is actually a
- 15:08Speaker 2: really good idea. I think the way it carried on
- 15:11Speaker 2: was a problem but might be a micropasm for the
- 15:13Speaker 2: whole thing. But like the fact that they're like families
- 15:16Speaker 2: like on the river trying to like survive and get across,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and then they happened to a t rex sleeping, which
- 15:23Speaker 2: that was really great, and they just hear that noise
- 15:25Speaker 2: and don't know what it is, and then you see
- 15:26Speaker 2: his what's it Like he's breathing, so his like nostrils
- 15:30Speaker 2: are blowing the bushes out of the way, and you're like,
- 15:33Speaker 2: oh fuck, it's the biggest fucking thing here and it's
- 15:35Speaker 2: right next to us. And just how they did the
- 15:37Speaker 2: whole trick with like the raft blowing up, it falls
- 15:40Speaker 2: over and it's gone. You have no clue where it went,
- 15:43Speaker 2: and how they play into the whole thing that the
- 15:44Speaker 2: t rex is just kind of this big dumb thing.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is what you need to do,
- 15:49Speaker 2: like use you know, you need to make them a
- 15:51Speaker 2: mega dinosaur or give him a giant fucking skull or
- 15:55Speaker 2: like something super like that, or make them invisible or
- 15:57Speaker 2: have guns for eyes.
- 15:58Speaker 3: It's just like you just need to do that and
- 16:01Speaker 3: it works. Yeah.
- 16:04Speaker 1: People are just so stupid. Like if you told Steven Spielberg,
- 16:06Speaker 1: I mean he's something bigger and scarier than the t Rex,
- 16:08Speaker 1: he'd be like, it's fucking t rex.
- 16:10Speaker 3: How about an octo t rex?
- 16:14Speaker 1: How about a t rex with two heads?
- 16:17Speaker 3: But uh, tote this stuff down. I did like that.
- 16:22Speaker 1: So a lot of the depictions of dinosaurs and Jurassic
- 16:24Speaker 1: Park are wrong. And Jurassic Park three they introduced the spinosaurus,
- 16:28Speaker 1: which is just portrayed as almost like a t Rex
- 16:31Speaker 1: but bigger. And then they accurately portray in this movie
- 16:34Speaker 1: that it's it's very aquatic, like mostly lives in the water.
- 16:38Speaker 1: So that was cool. Also ed screen screen screen it's.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Screen from Deadpool.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is in this movie and he dies
- 16:47Speaker 1: like immediately, and I'm like, oh, that's why I was blown.
- 16:52Speaker 1: His career is not going great. I mean, granted he's
- 16:53Speaker 1: in he's getting paid, which is better than a nine
- 16:55Speaker 1: percent of actors. But you know, he was like the
- 16:58Speaker 1: villain in Deadpool one. Now he's decide mercenary characters killed
- 17:02Speaker 1: in five minutes.
- 17:02Speaker 3: But also like besides, like the thing of Jurassic Park was.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Like Sam Neil, Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum, known actors, but
- 17:17Speaker 2: not like Marquene Ames, Chris Pratt. Also like besides Guardians
- 17:23Speaker 2: of the Galaxy of the Year before, like this was
- 17:26Speaker 2: a big thing for him. This has never been a
- 17:28Speaker 2: thing to have like Tom Cruise in you know, dress World. Yeah,
- 17:33Speaker 2: it's like they never did like I would be like, okay,
- 17:36Speaker 2: give them like the people in like the first movie
- 17:39Speaker 2: and even like whatever made something of those very small
- 17:42Speaker 2: parts and made them memorable. You got people who are
- 17:45Speaker 2: considered much more prominent actors and they have nothing. They
- 17:49Speaker 2: have zero. Yeah, like they just like literally just like
- 17:52Speaker 2: so why, Like I would assume the budget of this
- 17:54Speaker 2: movie was everyone's paycheck, which is great for them, but
- 17:57Speaker 2: it's just like there literally was like they made those
- 18:01Speaker 2: characters memorable, like they made Grant memorable. They gave them
- 18:04Speaker 2: these little nuggets from to play with of like the whole,
- 18:06Speaker 2: like Grant not like in Kids, Malcolm's whole like ironic whatever,
- 18:12Speaker 2: and like there's just nothing for these people besides like
- 18:15Speaker 2: they tell all their backstories and a scene at the
- 18:17Speaker 2: table on the boat and that's kind of it.
- 18:19Speaker 1: It just it doesn't seem grounded in any way. And
- 18:23Speaker 1: I know you could be like, what do you mean
- 18:25Speaker 1: that seems stupid? This is a movie about dinosaurs is
- 18:27Speaker 1: not grounded. But like the whole thing in Jurassic Park
- 18:31Speaker 1: one is there's no Billy badass character, Billy badasses Muldoon
- 18:34Speaker 1: and he gets killed, yes, which is really important that
- 18:37Speaker 1: Billy Badass gets killed.
- 18:38Speaker 2: He falls for the trap that Grant discusses, and Grant's
- 18:41Speaker 2: never seen a real one.
- 18:42Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so Grant is like a nerd.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ian Malcolm is not physically intimidating and they're
- 18:50Speaker 1: the characters and they survive. So in this movie, Scarlet
- 18:54Speaker 1: Johnson is completely badass, marsha Ley is a complete badassah,
- 18:59Speaker 1: and then they have like the grand character who's what's
- 19:01Speaker 1: his name? The actor, oh, Jonathan baill ya Jonathan Bailey.
- 19:04Speaker 1: And but there's this there's a cliff face that is
- 19:08Speaker 1: bigger than any cliff face on Earth. It's like El
- 19:11Speaker 1: Capitown but four times, and that already just looks c
- 19:15Speaker 1: G I fake knock grounded and they say to the
- 19:18Speaker 1: scientist character Jonathan Bailey, We're gonna have to climb down
- 19:21Speaker 1: this rock face and he's like, Hugh okay, and I'm
- 19:25Speaker 1: like what like Graham would be like I physically can't
- 19:28Speaker 1: do this.
- 19:28Speaker 3: And we're gonna free solo this uh this.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Yeah, what it just it seemed more cong Skull Island,
- 19:36Speaker 1: which again I love kongs Skull Island. Then it does
- 19:39Speaker 1: Jurassic Park, and I don't want.
- 19:41Speaker 3: That for this.
- 19:42Speaker 2: And that's the thing is like when you start doing
- 19:44Speaker 2: like when you start adding the thing of like you
- 19:46Speaker 2: will be so.
- 19:47Speaker 3: Much cooler if like Wolverine was in john Wick. Okay, well,
- 19:50Speaker 3: when you start, when you start.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Evening the playing field like that, it's not interesting anymore.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Like I start doing that kind of thing, like, oh,
- 19:56Speaker 2: let's send the X Men to Jurassic Park. Actually kind
- 19:58Speaker 2: of already it kind I shouldn't say, that's probably Savage Land,
- 20:01Speaker 2: but like when you do this kind of thing where
- 20:03Speaker 2: like it's these trained professionals unless they're getting absolutely the
- 20:07Speaker 2: floor wipe with them. It's not interesting at all. Or
- 20:11Speaker 2: if everyone's a badass, it's even the people aren't supposed
- 20:14Speaker 2: to be. It's just not there's no threat, yes, if
- 20:17Speaker 2: the dinosaur stuff isn't done creatively and there's no interest
- 20:21Speaker 2: in the threat, and you know, giving us a fair
- 20:25Speaker 2: you know, a warning to me in the movie, like, oh,
- 20:26Speaker 2: by the way, there's this other dinosaur that we don't
- 20:30Speaker 2: know what happened to. It might still be here. We'll
- 20:32Speaker 2: show you in the beginning and see what it did
- 20:34Speaker 2: to this employee they locked in that room. It just
- 20:38Speaker 2: doesn't give you anything to root for because like correct,
- 20:42Speaker 2: its just even if it was just a minimal amount.
- 20:47Speaker 3: You're totally right.
- 20:49Speaker 1: And also where were the bugs? Where were the giant locusts?
- 20:53Speaker 3: From the last so you're kind of in on Dominion.
- 20:55Speaker 5: Now, Dominion, the villain, villain of Dominion, worth of your
- 21:00Speaker 5: love of a dress was giant locusts, not giant spiders,
- 21:05Speaker 5: not giant praygmantis. There's something cool giant locus.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Also, it does the as much as I don't get
- 21:12Speaker 2: me wrong, I love any of the connective tissue, Dominion
- 21:17Speaker 2: is the one that commits the crime of all your
- 21:19Speaker 2: favorite characters never change clothes. Yes, all wear the same clothes. Yeah,
- 21:24Speaker 2: we're thirty years straight. It's it's like everyone is Freddy One.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Where's the same close all the time.
- 21:31Speaker 1: That's really insulting.
- 21:32Speaker 3: It's I and I get why because hence the reason
- 21:36Speaker 3: we all saw it is the whole membaries thing of it.
- 21:38Speaker 2: But also like, okay, they have a slightly different like
- 21:42Speaker 2: shade of the color, but it's still the exact same thing,
- 21:45Speaker 2: Like it's still like it's my one thing with I've
- 21:48Speaker 2: always felt like similarly with like Indiana Jones, much as
- 21:51Speaker 2: I love the classic costume, you can do variations on it.
- 21:54Speaker 2: You can do things and make it like more like
- 21:57Speaker 2: adept to something different, even if it's the same like
- 22:00Speaker 2: core idea, just so it's something. It's not like, here's
- 22:04Speaker 2: the same pants I've been wearing since nineteen thirty eight,
- 22:07Speaker 2: and it's just like, okay, well you're seventy. It's just
- 22:10Speaker 2: like does this work anymore? It's just so strange. It's
- 22:12Speaker 2: so strange.
- 22:13Speaker 3: But my least favorite part of the entire movie.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And I always I always mentioned how I hate when
- 22:19Speaker 1: the audience is treated as dumb. Yeah, this was the
- 22:22Speaker 1: most insulted. I've been as a viewer in a really
- 22:25Speaker 1: long time. So at the at the very end of
- 22:27Speaker 1: the movie, the I already forgot what it's called again,
- 22:30Speaker 1: the Rex distort Us Rex, Distortius Rex. So there's a throwback.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Marshalli's character is pretty bad, like there's nothing to him.
- 22:40Speaker 1: They try to wedge in, like the one personality trait
- 22:44Speaker 1: is he loves kids, because yeah, the sun passed away.
- 22:48Speaker 1: So there's a scene where he's like gonna save the
- 22:51Speaker 1: kids and he pulls out a flare, which is what
- 22:53Speaker 1: Malcolm does to save the kids in the first movie.
- 22:56Speaker 1: So it's an obvious throwback. So they're in this river
- 22:59Speaker 1: and he pulled out a flare and he says, like
- 23:02Speaker 1: over here, over here. So the Indominus, the Indominus Rex,
- 23:05Speaker 1: the distortus Rex starts following him, and he he sacrifices
- 23:09Speaker 1: himself to save everyone's life. Yes, So they're trying to
- 23:14Speaker 1: flee towards this like boat or plane, I don't remember,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and he's bringing inland down the river for them to
- 23:20Speaker 1: get away. So they he brings it way down the
- 23:24Speaker 1: river and there's nowhere left for him to go, and
- 23:26Speaker 1: he's like cornered and he has the flare and the
- 23:29Speaker 1: Indominus Rex is inches away from his face, screaming, and
- 23:34Speaker 1: he's just just going like come on, like because this
- 23:36Speaker 1: is the moment where he sacrifices himself and he dies.
- 23:39Speaker 1: He's cornered, it's going to kill him. Yeah, he just
- 23:41Speaker 1: saved the kids. There's no way out of this. And
- 23:44Speaker 1: then from a distance, Scarlett Johanssen sees his flare get extinguished,
- 23:49Speaker 1: so you know, like, oh, he just got to eat
- 23:51Speaker 1: and there he's dead, and they're like, wow, that's great
- 23:54Speaker 1: that he sacrifices himself for us. Then they get on
- 23:56Speaker 1: the boat and they're leaving and just out of fucking nowhere,
- 24:02Speaker 1: marsha Alip pops out of the woods and goes hey.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And then they pick him up and bring him on
- 24:07Speaker 1: the boat and they go like, oh awesome, you're not dead,
- 24:10Speaker 1: and there's no explanation none. So then so he comes
- 24:15Speaker 1: out of the woods, he goes hey, They grab him,
- 24:17Speaker 1: throw them on the boat. Nobody asks him how did
- 24:19Speaker 1: you get away? And then they just said then, So
- 24:22Speaker 1: immediately he's on the boat. Scarletono Hansen says, uh no, sorry.
- 24:26Speaker 1: She he says to scarletjo Hansen who are we going
- 24:29Speaker 1: to give the curate a heart disease too? And then
- 24:31Speaker 1: she looks him and goes everybody and then the credits
- 24:34Speaker 1: roll and I just felt like, what what happened? How
- 24:38Speaker 1: did he get out of that? Nobody's even asking.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I'm glad you, I'm glad you feel this way. This
- 24:44Speaker 2: is exactly how I felt with the Rise of Skywalker
- 24:47Speaker 2: with Chewbacca. We had we had ray flat out murder.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Now he's actually the other ship. We didn't show you
- 24:56Speaker 2: that one. Sure, it's just like we're just we're just
- 25:02Speaker 2: and this is our own fault because we see them.
- 25:03Speaker 1: But it's like, and it would have been so much
- 25:05Speaker 1: more meaningful if he had died like for the movie,
- 25:08Speaker 1: it would.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Have been better. Or if you like gave a shit
- 25:10Speaker 3: about him, that's right, right, or if you didn't care.
- 25:13Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing is like you got like
- 25:15Speaker 2: actors like this guy's won two oscars, like yeah, really
- 25:18Speaker 2: fucking good, and it's just like you just they gave
- 25:20Speaker 2: him like nothing to chew on, and the thing they
- 25:23Speaker 2: gave him to chew on is kind of like they
- 25:25Speaker 2: didn't give that enough time. And it's like, I don't know,
- 25:29Speaker 2: I feel like it's like they just don't it literally again,
- 25:33Speaker 2: was just made to I think, hey, we have to
- 25:35Speaker 2: have another one of these in two years, because these
- 25:38Speaker 2: things are breaking the bag for us.
- 25:40Speaker 3: That's what it is.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I mean.
- 25:42Speaker 6: Obviously Marvel got distorted and ruined, but early Marvel is
- 25:46Speaker 6: a perfect example of like, let's make movies that are
- 25:50Speaker 6: gonna make a ton of money that appeal to everyone,
- 25:52Speaker 6: that are good.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, So we don't have to make bad movies
- 25:56Speaker 1: to make money.
- 25:57Speaker 3: I also just think, what is wrong with.
- 26:02Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be eating these words, but like, what
- 26:04Speaker 2: is wrong with going back to doing something smaller that
- 26:08Speaker 2: feels bigger?
- 26:09Speaker 3: Right? Why? Like we like the first one if.
- 26:13Speaker 2: You think about it, like it probably feels bigger because
- 26:16Speaker 2: the grandiose nature of the park.
- 26:19Speaker 3: The first time I'm seeing the dinosaurs.
- 26:20Speaker 2: There's a lot of like huge wide shots of the park,
- 26:24Speaker 2: but you're primarily like in a tree with Alan, You're
- 26:28Speaker 2: in a basement with them. You don't like you can
- 26:32Speaker 2: create the wonder dread everything and scale and don't need
- 26:37Speaker 2: it to be like absolutely like four hundred million dollars.
- 26:41Speaker 2: And again, we are people who don't know how this
- 26:43Speaker 2: shit is done. So it's like there's a lot more
- 26:46Speaker 2: things involved, but I feel like it's becoming That's why
- 26:49Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier like Fast and Furious, where like we
- 26:54Speaker 2: now keep doing this, we have to keep blowing up
- 26:56Speaker 2: the balloon and higher and higher, and the balloon doesn't popped.
- 27:00Speaker 2: It's just gotten so fucking big. There's no balloon left,
- 27:02Speaker 2: and it's just like out of control. There's now nothing
- 27:06Speaker 2: you can show me that these people can't handle. Like
- 27:09Speaker 2: Fast and Furious is to the point where characters who
- 27:12Speaker 2: have died, who have been murdered by other characters.
- 27:15Speaker 3: Turns out five movies ago, they were a hologram. I
- 27:19Speaker 3: just go. I would just go what.
- 27:21Speaker 2: I was like, I was in the theater and I mean,
- 27:26Speaker 2: I love these movies, and it was like in the
- 27:28Speaker 2: theater and they were like, how did you do this?
- 27:30Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, well, I worked for mister
- 27:32Speaker 2: his name is mister Nobody, Kurt Russell's character, who we'll
- 27:34Speaker 2: talk about later. Yeah, And they show the hologram disappeared,
- 27:38Speaker 2: and I just go what. I just go like that
- 27:41Speaker 2: was one of the best moments of this entire franchise.
- 27:43Speaker 2: It was sad, but you cared about him and people
- 27:45Speaker 2: liked him as a character, and they did this kind
- 27:48Speaker 2: of cool thing where they kept pushing off his death,
- 27:50Speaker 2: and then when he comes back because everyone loved him,
- 27:53Speaker 2: he's like, at least do something different than like, well,
- 27:57Speaker 2: the only ways like now he's a hologram is it
- 27:59Speaker 2: is gonna be a band aid for anyone who dies
- 28:01Speaker 2: that comes back there. Yes, And then the saddest thing
- 28:05Speaker 2: is the person who actually passed away in real life,
- 28:08Speaker 2: they keep acting like is alive in these movies to
- 28:10Speaker 2: the point where they have to put him in the
- 28:12Speaker 2: movie and it's like, what is happening?
- 28:14Speaker 3: What the fuck is happening? And then I'll stop. I'll
- 28:17Speaker 3: go on this for ninety minutes, so I'm good.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So anyways, yeah, we can wrap this is
- 28:21Speaker 1: half an hour, we can wrap this up.
- 28:23Speaker 3: This movie sucks.
- 28:26Speaker 2: I don't what do you think the title of this
- 28:28Speaker 2: because they will definitely make another one. What do you
- 28:30Speaker 2: think the title is gonna be? Do they continue these characters?
- 28:33Speaker 2: Do they reset to note a new group every time?
- 28:36Speaker 1: Jurassic Jurassic World Park, Jurassic World.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Uh wait, so it's.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Jurassic World, Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom of Jurassic World, dominion
- 28:48Speaker 1: Jurassic World Rebirth.
- 28:50Speaker 3: So the next one will be.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Dawn of Jurassic Park, Colon, Jurassic World origins, colin raptors, versuses.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Oh interesting, okay, okay.
- 29:06Speaker 1: No, I think it should be called Jurassic World. Uh,
- 29:11Speaker 1: Jurassic World defecation.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, because there's really no like logistics
- 29:19Speaker 2: with like some like movie series like this, the subtitles
- 29:22Speaker 2: you're like, okay, there's some kind of like thing to it,
- 29:24Speaker 2: Like there's some kind of rhythm to them. These ones
- 29:26Speaker 2: have been so all over the place. What if they
- 29:29Speaker 2: go back to numbers? Will that be so funny if
- 29:32Speaker 2: it was like JPA.
- 29:35Speaker 3: This is like the appeard exactly right.
- 29:37Speaker 1: But they at least.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Bounce back between them, so you never know, but like
- 29:41Speaker 2: I would like I would be some funny.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Oh they just call it like Jurassic They don't go
- 29:46Speaker 3: for the whole like.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's something that movies do that. Now there's
- 29:49Speaker 1: so many sequels that instead of more complicated titles, it's
- 29:52Speaker 1: like simpler titles or it's like you know, uh, what's it?
- 29:55Speaker 1: What's a movie? I'm blanking right now, but think of it.
- 29:57Speaker 1: What's an example where like let's say the oh how
- 30:02Speaker 1: Scream was literally just called one of the sequels is
- 30:04Speaker 1: just called Scream.
- 30:05Speaker 3: That's Halloween. Yeah, yeah, like exactly what.
- 30:08Speaker 1: You can't have two movies of the same name, the
- 30:10Speaker 1: same franchise.
- 30:11Speaker 2: It's just it's so interesting because it's like why I
- 30:15Speaker 2: get where some titles they trap you, but like I
- 30:19Speaker 2: think that's so interesting because how do they're so worried
- 30:24Speaker 2: and they A lot of studio movies are like you
- 30:26Speaker 2: just said, let's make this the dumbest thing possible because
- 30:29Speaker 2: we think you're stupid. Yes, but then complexly will be like, well,
- 30:33Speaker 2: I mean we'll call it Halloween, but we really need this.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Like it's just like what like you know, I mean
- 30:37Speaker 3: like what like you can't you can't do like how
- 30:40Speaker 3: they do both is bizarre to me. I just don't
- 30:42Speaker 3: get it. I don't get it at all. But yeah,
- 30:46Speaker 3: we we love that.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Like the two worst movie titles ever that we always
- 30:49Speaker 1: talk about is X X Men Origins Colin Wolverine when
- 30:53Speaker 1: there's no other X Men Origins movie, and then also
- 30:56Speaker 1: Batman Versus Superman Colin Dawn of Justice.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 31:01Speaker 2: I was trying to think, like when they got into
- 31:04Speaker 2: the subtitles of movies because like now, like in movies,
- 31:08Speaker 2: they really don't.
- 31:09Speaker 3: Do numbers anymore.
- 31:10Speaker 2: They really don't, like except for Fast and Furious and yeah,
- 31:15Speaker 2: like F nine.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Yeah and even that.
- 31:17Speaker 2: It's like, we're gonna X to this, We're just gonna
- 31:19Speaker 2: do a letter in a number. It's so like you
- 31:21Speaker 2: don't only see like.
- 31:24Speaker 3: That thing.
- 31:24Speaker 2: I mean it was I was watching The Big Picture,
- 31:27Speaker 2: didn't They were talking about Delawares product too, and Sean
- 31:31Speaker 2: Fantasy made the point. He was like, yeah, it's gonna
- 31:33Speaker 2: see numbers in the title again. He's like you just
- 31:34Speaker 2: never like He's like, what else would they call this?
- 31:36Speaker 3: I really don't know. Yeah, It's like it's just interesting.
- 31:39Speaker 2: You just never see sequels that are just like two yeah, right,
- 31:42Speaker 2: so I think I think that's just only call it
- 31:44Speaker 2: JPA j W. Wait, now, what what can they call it?
- 31:48Speaker 2: Because there's been Jurassic Park in Jurassic World Jay.
- 31:53Speaker 1: They could just call it Jurassic I like that idea.
- 31:55Speaker 1: They could call it jp W.
- 32:00Speaker 4: What is this?
- 32:00Speaker 2: We could do the eighth we could do the Ballerina
- 32:03Speaker 2: one with Armorst that was a spin off of John
- 32:07Speaker 2: Wick with the title of the movie.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Is called from the from the world.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Of John Wick Ballerina, So we could do from the
- 32:14Speaker 2: world of Jurassic Park, Jurassic World, Colon Retribution, Revenge.
- 32:21Speaker 3: So this would be the This would be the eight.
- 32:23Speaker 1: This would be the eighth movie, right, eighth movie. So
- 32:25Speaker 1: I think the ultimate flex just like putting your your
- 32:28Speaker 1: dick on the table, we would just be calling it eight.
- 32:32Speaker 3: And people just know what it is. It's it's eight
- 32:35Speaker 3: scratches on the poster, like from the class It's an
- 32:39Speaker 3: it's an eight arm raptor. It's just like.
- 32:43Speaker 2: It's like, whatever have you seen like the YouTube videos
- 32:46Speaker 2: of General Grievs from Revenge of the Sith, and it's
- 32:49Speaker 2: like General Graves has too many arms and he has
- 32:51Speaker 2: a thousand like lightsabers, and when he spends on he
- 32:53Speaker 2: can destroys himself.
- 32:54Speaker 3: He just cuts himself in the pieces. Oh man.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd say you we should do advice, re
- 33:03Speaker 2: birth advice, and I would say YouTube. The full scene
- 33:07Speaker 2: is on there. I saw it today. YouTube the Rafts scene,
- 33:09Speaker 2: the raft scene.
- 33:10Speaker 1: So you told me you really love the rap scene.
- 33:12Speaker 1: I was just so down in the movie. I didn't care.
- 33:14Speaker 1: It's probably the best scene in the movie.
- 33:15Speaker 4: Yeah, what would be my advice. I would say the
- 33:21Speaker 4: one thing. It doesn't make logistical sense in any way,
- 33:26Speaker 4: But I like the Mosesaurus.
- 33:29Speaker 2: I again like the idea of like doing a chase.
- 33:31Speaker 2: I'm like that, Okay, that's something we have not done.
- 33:33Speaker 2: Like that, it's only been trapped when they when he
- 33:35Speaker 2: ate that nanny, which was really funny.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Actually, I love that when he ate the most stores
- 33:40Speaker 1: ate the bird with the nanny and it's clause unreal.
- 33:42Speaker 1: That was like one of my favorite deaths. That's in
- 33:44Speaker 1: real Jassic World. Yeah, so good, Okay, all right, thanks
- 33:49Speaker 1: for listening, Eric. Will you Eric's just been sitting here
- 33:53Speaker 1: quietly waiting with his violin.
- 33:54Speaker 6: Will you play us out?
- 33:56Speaker 1: Eric mo