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- 1:09episode, discover why self-reliance is key to survival and safety. Learn how storing essentials,
- 1:14staying aware and having self-defense tools can protect you, understand how criminals choose
- 1:18victims and how awareness helps plus gain a simple yet effective method to detect lies.
- 1:34So you know when you look at your personal view on life, these are all things you've learned
- 1:39throughout your career but also you have your own survivalist mentality built in. You have I think
- 1:46two years worth of food storage saved the way for yourself. How important is that? Why is that
- 1:53important to you? Obviously it's important to you. You've done it. Why is that important to you?
- 1:58What is the lesson that other individuals should learn from? Is this not hyperbolic? Is this
- 2:04something that we should actually be concerned about for the average individual? You know,
- 2:08you're a smart guy and you are a survivalist to a degree. So what does that mean for the rest of us?
- 2:15First, we shall be self-reliant. We all have heard the stories of the water pipe burst and you
- 2:20can't get water, which actually happened to a front of mine not too long ago and of course in 30
- 2:24seconds all the shelves go empty of water and people need water. We know that the grid can go down.
- 2:30I mean there's a blackout somewhere. So the world is not going to get any safer. I'm not going to
- 2:34go into a long rant about other foreign threats and trying to bring our grid down, but you've got
- 2:40to be self-reliant. You need to have this stuff. So I realize that everybody's going to want two
- 2:44years where the food storage like I have, but that makes me comfortable and the best part of me
- 2:48self-reliant is you can help others. If you do not have supplies, if you're not prepared, well then
- 2:54you're just another deadbeat who's causing problems who's going to stand in a long line because you
- 3:01can't help others out. So for instance, I have a widow next door, right? I know she has some
- 3:05supplies, but guess what? Because I have so much, I can help take care of this widow. I can help take
- 3:10care of some friends and family. So that's why I think it's important is so you can take care
- 3:15yourself and not be a drain on society, not be a drain on the government, but also so you can help
- 3:20those in need who might not be able to afford two years with a food storage or afford as much as
- 3:26you and I might be able to afford it. Because I'm starting to learn that this could be a little
- 3:31bit more important than I originally thought. Like I was originally from Toronto, moved down to
- 3:35South Florida and now I'm dealing with all the hurricane chaos that happens and I've never
- 3:40thought to fill my bathtub with water for several days of drinking the water before, but this
- 3:45is a whole new world. So I find that so interesting. What are some other very important, I guess,
- 3:51basic things that people should think about in their day to day, just in terms of survival,
- 3:56survival and not being a burden and what they should be doing and they're in the condo in a big
- 4:01city. What are the things they should think about? Well, you should have your food storage. We
- 4:05mentioned you should have your water storage. I'm a big guns guy or some type of weapon. So I love
- 4:10guns. You've got to have a way to protect yourself if somebody's kicking in your front door at 3am,
- 4:14whether that's a knife, whether it's a hatchet and acts again, have something to protect yourself
- 4:19and then pay attention. Criminals case people, meaning when you're staring at your phone,
- 4:23what a criminal, I'll tell you the the kind of a criminal framework, right? It's called the
- 4:29hostage events attack cycle. And what it means is, okay, some criminals says, hey, I need money,
- 4:34right? I'm going to go to target and watch everybody coming out of the target parking lot.
- 4:40And I'm going to see everybody come out who looks like the easiest victim. Then I'm going to follow
- 4:45that easiest victim to the car. I'm going to rob them and my buddy's going to be two lanes over.
- 4:49I'm going to jump in the car and we're going to get out of there. That's in a nutshell.
- 4:53So if you don't have your head down, if you're looking up and you're scanning around,
- 4:57they're going to say, you know what? I'm not going to pick that person because they're going to
- 4:59see me coming. I'm going to go after the 50 other people in the target parking lot who have no
- 5:04idea what's going around. So just by having situational awareness and having your head up,
- 5:09it's that much easier not to be attacked. Many years ago in a place I won't name, I was almost
- 5:13kidnapped. Two guys are coming towards me. They don't blend in with the environment. They don't
- 5:18look like they should be there. And as we're about 25 yards apart, they're coming towards me.
- 5:24They look at each other. They look directly at me and they step apart trying to funnel me in
- 5:29between them. Well, as soon as I saw this, I turned around. I took off running. These guys took
- 5:33off running after me. And when people are trying to kidnap me, I become very, very fast.
- 5:38So I out ran these guys. They never got to me. But if I had had my head down that day in some
- 5:43phone, I would have walked right into these two guys who would have tried to kidnap me and then
- 5:47we had to fight it out. So having good situational awareness keeps you out of having to fight.
- 5:53It keeps you out of being attacked. So that's, you know, an easy thing that every human being on
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- 7:22You know, it's so interesting because you always think you're safe, especially as somebody lives
- 7:28in North America and in the US, you feel so safe. You feel so safe wherever you travel abroad.
- 7:33This reminds me of one story. I think it's a Tim Ferris story where he went abroad and he didn't
- 7:39think anything was up and then there was when he got off the plane, there was somebody holding a
- 7:43sign saying like Tim Ferris is if they're the driver or whatever. And then he realized that he didn't
- 7:48tell anybody that he was going to that country. And he thinks that this is the potential
- 7:54kidnapping event that he avoided because he's like, I never told anybody I was going to the
- 7:57country. There's nobody you should have had a sign there. Nobody knew I was going to be there and
- 8:01it was some, I can't remember which country. But it's just interesting that you don't expect it and
- 8:05then it really only has to happen once for it to be the most devastating, you know, life-impacting
- 8:14event that will ever happen to you. Right, exactly. And he obviously played a grade. I mean,
- 8:18yeah, that Tim Ferris story hadn't heard, but he did the right thing. I mean, same thing for me,
- 8:22if I'm going somewhere and I don't tell people exactly where I'm going, I never do. If somebody
- 8:26shows up there with a sign, heck no, I'm not going towards them. So you've got to be vigilant
- 8:32everywhere you go these days. What are some other, I mean, you have so many lessons. It's really hard
- 8:37to pick. So I'm just going to ask you which ones you think are the most practical or the most
- 8:41impactful that would help somebody in a day to day. And it can be a self-defense lesson. It could
- 8:46be a survival at whatever things that you think resonate the most with an audience is sort of just
- 8:51starting to consume your content. So one of the classes I teach is how to become a human lie
- 8:56detector. So it's detecting deception. And when we go over a bunch of stuff, but I'm going to tell you
- 9:00one of the easiest ways, anybody can do it. You don't have to be former CIA. You don't have to
- 9:05be a polygrapher or any of that is as human beings. We are not made to lie. So when we lie, our brain
- 9:12has to take time to come up with that lie. So if I ask somebody a question, I say, you know, hey,
- 9:19hey, Joe, tell me the last time you stole something, right? Most people immediately answer, oh,
- 9:26I stole money from my parents wall at high school or oh, when I was in sixth grade, I stole a
- 9:30Snickers bar from the supermarket, right? It's a it's a quick community answer. But if you ask
- 9:35somebody this question and they get the nervous look on their face and they're start, um, um,
- 9:40um, um, they're trying to buy time to control that lie. So I'll tell you the perfect example.
- 9:45When I'm hiring people, I literally do just what I said. So I get them comfortable. They sit down
- 9:49with me. I'm like, hey, you know, tell me where you're from. You know, we get to we shoot the bowl
- 9:53for about five minutes. And then way out of left field, I don't even tell them it's coming. I say,
- 9:59tell me last time you stole something. And again, most people are like, oh, in sixth grade,
- 10:04I stole much Katie from the supermarket, right? Immediately answer. They're not nervous. They
- 10:08have normal human behavior. Well, one time true story. I had a guy as soon as I said this,
- 10:14he gets the deer in the headlights. Look, and he's like, well, um, uh, well, and like, hey,
- 10:20don't worry about it. We've all stolen things. You know, we've all we've all done stuff.
- 10:24And he says, well, I worked for a bookkeeping company a while back. It was my last job,
- 10:29actually. And I stole a ton of office supplies because I wanted to set up a competing bookkeeping
- 10:35company. And I realized I don't want to be the bookkeeping business. So I need a job with you.
- 10:41Clearly, I did not hire that guy. He was very honest. He was because I mean, after we started
- 10:48having a hang, I come down and I, you know, I, I, I got it out of them. But just, you know,
- 10:54once you shoot the ball for five minutes with somebody, come out with a question way out of that
- 10:57field. I mean, I do the same thing with drugs. I say, hey, tell me last time you did drugs.
- 11:02Most people are like, well, I smoked marijuana in high school or I did some drugs in college.
- 11:06But I had a person one, same thing. Deer in the headlights nervous told me they did hard drugs
- 11:11on the weekend, but never during the work week. Well, I don't hire people who do drugs because
- 11:16I'm in a security business. So that is an easy way to detect deception is law them into that
- 11:21complacency, hit them with that uncomfortable question and see if they exhibit normal human behavior.
- 11:27So it's interesting because the second you do that, even if I end up telling you the truth,
- 11:31their mind perceives the thing that they did as something that would obviously turn you off as
- 11:38the question, as the person asking the question. So they think they, they know that what they did
- 11:42is wrong. And that's why they pause on it. They, they know that what they did was incorrect or
- 11:46they know that they did like probably is not going to be conducive to them getting the jobs.
- 11:50They pause on it. So even if it's not pure deception, you actually benchmark how they perceive
- 11:58the severity of the thing they did by how long it takes them to answer. Correct. I want to see
- 12:03how uncomfortable it makes. If you are honest and you did nothing that is outside of normal human
- 12:09behavior, meaning you stole candy and sixth grade from the supermarket. Many of us have done that.
- 12:12That's normal behavior. But if you're stealing all the supplies is a grown adult at your last job
- 12:19and a lot of them clearly not normal human behavior. So you're nervous, you're uncomfortable.
- 12:24You know, like you said, I'm not going to like the answer and you're probably not going to get the
- 12:27job. So you get the deer on the headlights looking all the stuff that comes with it.
- 12:32When is there a way to pick up deception even if it's not, for example,
- 12:39something that is that much of a lie. So say you're talking about somebody's past experience
- 12:44and you're saying, you know, what did you do at your last job? And they were, you know, maybe
- 12:50an entry-level marketing person, but they're saying that they are the CMO and they did everything
- 12:56for the company and it's like not a lie, but it's not the truth and they could really hurt your
- 13:01business if you make, for example, this hiring decision. Are there any other indicators? Yeah,
- 13:06I mean, that are so. Yeah, there's a ton that I teach. So one of them is pay attention to the
- 13:10direction that had nots because the head doesn't lie. So as you and beings, we often lie with our voice,
- 13:15right? And I'll give you the million dollar example and I don't care what anybody's politics are,
- 13:21doesn't matter to me, but when Hillary Clinton was running for president against Trump several
- 13:25years ago, she had an interview and I believe was Diane Sawyer with some kind of 60 minutes to
- 13:30be interviewed, right? And so they ask Hillary, they say something to her or Diane Sawyer says something
- 13:35to her like Hillary, you and Bill have a wonderful marriage, don't you? And she says, oh yes, we have
- 13:42a wonderful marriage and you see her head just slightly. And so politicians, of course, many of
- 13:49them are liars. It's great to watch them on this. So I asked somebody a question like when I'm
- 13:54interviewing somebody and sometimes they'll say, Hey, Jason, I've never stolen anything in my life.
- 14:00And I'm like, you're kidding me. I stole stuff in my life. I was the guy who stole
- 14:04candy from the supermarket and the sixth grade kind of thing. And they're like, no, Jason,
- 14:09I have never stolen anything. I'm watching to make sure there are no matches up with their no.
- 14:14Did have a case one time where a guy was like, no, I'm never stolen anything in his head is
- 14:19slightly. It's very slight, nodding yes. And then I know I've got him. So always trust the direction
- 14:26the head nods, not what the voice says. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable,
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