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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, November twenty second.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The Indiana game is in
- 0:05Speaker 1: one day. The game against Michigan in eight days. That
- 0:08Speaker 1: game against Indiana maybe the single biggest in the Ohio
- 0:11Speaker 1: State Indiana series, at least going back fifty plus years,
- 0:16Speaker 1: because it is a top five matchups of Buckeyes and Hoosiers.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Definitely not one that you had circled on the calendar
- 0:22Speaker 1: before the season started, but one that's been circled on
- 0:25Speaker 1: the calendar for at least a month or two. We're
- 0:27Speaker 1: gonna be taking a look deep dive on that with
- 0:29Speaker 1: Kevin Newton bucke huddle dot com. He just wrote his
- 0:31Speaker 1: Tale of the Tape column about that game. Always the
- 0:35Speaker 1: deepest of deep dives on each of these games each week. Kevin,
- 0:39Speaker 1: I guess let's start with Indiana's defense. It is a
- 0:43Speaker 1: defense that is filled with transfers. Of left, ten of
- 0:45Speaker 1: eleven starters are transfers on that defense. And the other
- 0:49Speaker 1: thing you need to know, they are very good, especially
- 0:51Speaker 1: against the run.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of transfers, including on the defensive line,
- 0:56Speaker 2: where their two biggest weapons both came from James Madison
- 1:01Speaker 2: following their coach over Indiana's defense. You know, they're they
- 1:06Speaker 2: you know, they put up numbers. But the question is
- 1:09Speaker 2: going to be the schedule, and that is really the
- 1:12Speaker 2: crux of where we are in college football with all
- 1:15Speaker 2: things not being equal. Some leagues playing eight, I'm playing nine.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Some you know, some teams playing good schedules, some teams
- 1:20Speaker 2: playing not so good schedules. I really can't comment about
- 1:24Speaker 2: non conference schedules. Ohio States wasn't all that good, but
- 1:27Speaker 2: Indiana has really managed to kind of dodge all of
- 1:30Speaker 2: the bullets so far, Ohio State being the only bullet
- 1:33Speaker 2: it really has to face in terms of in terms
- 1:37Speaker 2: of things. But you look at the run defense allowing
- 1:40Speaker 2: seventy two point two yards per game. But you know,
- 1:43Speaker 2: I challenge you to go over who the best, you know,
- 1:45Speaker 2: the best back that they that they faced has been.
- 1:49Speaker 2: I mean, so are you getting success because you're going
- 1:52Speaker 2: against you know, the top backs. I mean, there's one
- 1:55Speaker 2: thing about stopping you know, Ohio State's run game or whatever,
- 1:59Speaker 2: but they're not even going against Penn State. They're not
- 2:01Speaker 2: getting Kitron Allen, They're not getting Nick Singleton. So you know,
- 2:06Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to to to see there.
- 2:09Speaker 2: You have to unpeel a lot of layers of the onion.
- 2:13Speaker 2: You know, necessarily just compiling stats like you know, total
- 2:16Speaker 2: yardage aren't necessarily going to be the truth. But you know,
- 2:20Speaker 2: with with that being said, it's it's going to be
- 2:22Speaker 2: a challenge. And I think with Ohio State losing offensive
- 2:26Speaker 2: center South McLaughlin do injury is going to create some
- 2:31Speaker 2: challenges in Ohio State is going to probably need to
- 2:33Speaker 2: look to get the ball outside a little bit more
- 2:35Speaker 2: than testing it inside. Sure, you know, if you get
- 2:37Speaker 2: to the point of where you can run it inside
- 2:39Speaker 2: later in the game, that's great, but don't you know,
- 2:41Speaker 2: don't get yourself off to a slow start, you know,
- 2:43Speaker 2: kind of petering around.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was gonna be my next question. Seth
- 2:47Speaker 1: maclaughlan obviously went down with that injury at practice on Tuesday.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So now you've got Carson Hinzman kicking from left guard
- 2:54Speaker 1: over to center where he played last year. Austin Seerveld
- 2:57Speaker 1: get to get the start at left guard. How how
- 3:00Speaker 1: big of a concern is that for Ohio State in
- 3:02Speaker 1: this game and does that change your projection on this
- 3:05Speaker 1: game at all?
- 3:07Speaker 2: He doesn't change my outcome. I did. I did kind
- 3:11Speaker 2: of dial my score back when I wrote it, and
- 3:14Speaker 2: now I regret it. I wish that I had it
- 3:16Speaker 2: back to be able to change it. I guess maybe
- 3:18Speaker 2: theoretically before we hit published on it, I could change it.
- 3:22Speaker 2: But I'm not going to. I've already said it on
- 3:24Speaker 2: one or two shows out there. It's going to create
- 3:28Speaker 2: some issue, I mean, if not. I mean, it's not
- 3:30Speaker 2: like it's just eleven nondescript players out there and you
- 3:33Speaker 2: can just plug and change them or whatever. There's I mean,
- 3:36Speaker 2: everybody's got strengths and weaknesses. And while I think Hensman
- 3:39Speaker 2: is a much better center today than he was at
- 3:42Speaker 2: this time last year, I mean, he hasn't been playing it.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You know.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Austin Saraveld has seen some you know, some spot duty
- 3:48Speaker 2: and things along that nature. But this is a really
- 3:51Speaker 2: big game to be inserted in. But then again, he
- 3:53Speaker 2: also knows that it's his position moving forward. I mean,
- 3:56Speaker 2: I guess unless he plays really poorly. So is that
- 4:00Speaker 2: that liberating? Is that a little freeing? Knowing that you
- 4:03Speaker 2: might not be out the next series even if you're
- 4:05Speaker 2: playing pretty decent, so you kind of you kind of
- 4:07Speaker 2: go from there. But you wonder, I mean, you look
- 4:12Speaker 2: at last week and or two weeks ago, because Indiana
- 4:15Speaker 2: had the open week. Last week they played Michigan, they
- 4:18Speaker 2: don't record a sack. Most of their most of their
- 4:21Speaker 2: sack damage happened in two Big Ten games, Michigan State
- 4:24Speaker 2: and Maryland. Beyond that, everything's been two or three sacks
- 4:28Speaker 2: in a game, which you don't want your quarterback to
- 4:30Speaker 2: be sacked once. But two or three is a heck
- 4:32Speaker 2: of a lot better than five or seven or whatever
- 4:35Speaker 2: we were talking about in those other games. So no,
- 4:38Speaker 2: I'm not making an overall wholesale change. I did overcorrect
- 4:41Speaker 2: a little too much, but you know it is what it.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Is and not not something you will be held to
- 4:48Speaker 1: at gunpoint. A score prediction for the for the game,
- 4:52Speaker 1: and we'll get to the score prediction later, and you
- 4:54Speaker 1: know we'll see probably not a gunpoint, I guess, I
- 4:56Speaker 1: guess I should say before we move on from the
- 4:58Speaker 1: Indiana defense idea, he'd just want to run through a
- 5:01Speaker 1: couple names of folks to know. And also, when you
- 5:04Speaker 1: know we talked earlier about how many guys are transfers
- 5:07Speaker 1: on this team, I'll just run through a very quick
- 5:09Speaker 1: list that I put together for a different show we
- 5:11Speaker 1: did earlier in the week with Tony Michael Kamara nine
- 5:14Speaker 1: and a half sacks, leading sacker, defensive lineman transfer from
- 5:17Speaker 1: James Madison. James Carpenter defensive tackle, four sacks, second on
- 5:21Speaker 1: the team, transfer from James Madison. Kyree Tucker two and
- 5:24Speaker 1: a half sacks, defensive tackle transferred from James Madison. Aiden
- 5:27Speaker 1: Fisher the top tackler on the team with ninety eight
- 5:30Speaker 1: tackles already linebacker transfer from James Madison. Dalen Walker second
- 5:34Speaker 1: highest tackler on the team, fifty nine tackles transfer from
- 5:37Speaker 1: James Madison. John Asberry third highest tackler on the team.
- 5:40Speaker 1: He's a defensive back. He is an Old Dominion transfer.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Incredible shocking twist there. And finally, D'Angelo Pond's fourth highest
- 5:48Speaker 1: tackler on the team defensive backs James Madison transfer. So
- 5:51Speaker 1: when we say that Kurz Signetti basically brought his entire
- 5:53Speaker 1: James Madison defense over with him when he took the
- 5:56Speaker 1: Indiana job, we are not kidding. So now onto the
- 5:59Speaker 1: other side of the ball, and to me, one of
- 6:02Speaker 1: the big questions is can Indiana run the ball? They
- 6:05Speaker 1: only ran for one point four yards per carry against Michigan.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Ohio State has been very good against the run as well.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Both Indiana and Ohio State rank in the top five
- 6:14Speaker 1: against the run in basically any way you want to
- 6:16Speaker 1: sort of slice and dice the stats, they are right
- 6:19Speaker 1: up there. And you mentioned, you know, there's questions about
- 6:22Speaker 1: the competition that Indiana has played. Ohio State has played
- 6:25Speaker 1: some pretty good competition. They're still top five just about
- 6:27Speaker 1: any way you want to sort of slice and dice
- 6:29Speaker 1: the numbers. So I think my first question in terms
- 6:31Speaker 1: of Indiana on offense is can they run the ball
- 6:34Speaker 1: against Ohio State.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I think that's a million dollar question right there and
- 6:38Speaker 2: something that we're all going to look at because I
- 6:42Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be able to run the ball.
- 6:43Speaker 2: I mean, I think that they might pop off a
- 6:45Speaker 2: couple of good runs. We haven't seen quarterback Curtis Rourke
- 6:48Speaker 2: be much of a rusher heyes, seventeen rushing yards sack
- 6:50Speaker 2: adjusted so far in the season. Much more of a
- 6:53Speaker 2: had more a little more dual threat in him when
- 6:55Speaker 2: he was at Ohio University. But you know, will they
- 6:58Speaker 2: be able to to get that, you know, get that
- 7:02Speaker 2: going for them. I'm looking at rushing defenses of the
- 7:06Speaker 2: teams that Indiana has faced, and you know, it's faced teams.
- 7:11Speaker 2: You know, there's been a couple of dogs. I mean,
- 7:13Speaker 2: Charlotte's won twenty five against the run, Florida International's one fifteen,
- 7:17Speaker 2: but there are a lot of teams between the twenties
- 7:19Speaker 2: and upper forties. So for what they've been able to do,
- 7:22Speaker 2: they've been able to do it against some teams that
- 7:24Speaker 2: have been able. You know, we we have numbers out there,
- 7:28Speaker 2: so you know, you look at the Nebraska Indiana game,
- 7:32Speaker 2: they go thirty three carries, two to fifteen, five touchdowns.
- 7:35Speaker 2: I think that's an outlier. I mean, obviously that's going
- 7:37Speaker 2: to be an outlier. You look at Michigan twenty eight
- 7:39Speaker 2: carries or forty yards, but even go with the week
- 7:41Speaker 2: before that, Michigan State twenty thirty two carries a buck
- 7:44Speaker 2: twenty two to two touchdowns. I think Indiana would be
- 7:46Speaker 2: pretty thrilled with the two touchdowns. I don't know if
- 7:49Speaker 2: it's going to be really happy with thirty two carries
- 7:51Speaker 2: for just a buck twenty two. I mean, so when
- 7:54Speaker 2: when Indiana really sells out on the run, it's pretty
- 7:57Speaker 2: successful there, But you know, there have been other games
- 8:01Speaker 2: of where you know, it's been more on the pass
- 8:03Speaker 2: and the run game is really suffered and the yards
- 8:06Speaker 2: per carryer average and everything else. So again, show me,
- 8:12Speaker 2: you know, show me this game against a team with
- 8:14Speaker 2: a competent defense. They had a game against Michigan, and
- 8:17Speaker 2: say what you will about Michigan, their defense is at
- 8:19Speaker 2: least competent. I'm not necessarily expecting Ohio State to just
- 8:23Speaker 2: completely shut this thing down to fifteen points allowed. But
- 8:27Speaker 2: then again, you don't know. If they can't run that
- 8:30Speaker 2: very well, could be something like that.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And if Indiana can't run the ball, how effective can
- 8:37Speaker 1: they be on offense? We have seen Curtis Rourke be
- 8:39Speaker 1: very effective through the air. They have been absolutely deadly
- 8:42Speaker 1: with those back shoulder throws over the course of the season.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And the wide receiver unit is not loaded with five stars,
- 8:50Speaker 1: but it's a competent, solid, maybe good wide receiver unit
- 8:55Speaker 1: by Big ten standards. If they are not able to
- 8:58Speaker 1: run the ball, can Indiana move it effectively enough and
- 9:01Speaker 1: efficiently enough and consistently enough just through the air to
- 9:05Speaker 1: potentially pull this one out?
- 9:08Speaker 2: I think that they can move it through the air
- 9:09Speaker 2: and potentially keep it interesting. But I don't think that.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I don't think a one dimensional Indiana team is going
- 9:15Speaker 2: to be able to escape with a win because I
- 9:17Speaker 2: don't think Indiana's defense is going to be able to
- 9:19Speaker 2: keep Ohio State in check to that low scoring threshold
- 9:24Speaker 2: that would need to be achieved. But yeah, you do
- 9:28Speaker 2: talk about the back shoulder throws. I mean, I'm sure
- 9:30Speaker 2: that Denzel Burke is already having kind of nightmares about
- 9:34Speaker 2: some of those going into this game. He's had a
- 9:37Speaker 2: little bit of a rough patch here and there this season.
- 9:39Speaker 2: But you know, I'm the first one to say that
- 9:41Speaker 2: some of the throws that have been made have been
- 9:43Speaker 2: pretty darn impressive. But those you know, those count too.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You can't sit there and say, well, it was very
- 9:49Speaker 2: impressive throw, So we're just gonna we're gonna scratch that off.
- 9:52Speaker 2: That wasn't just a normal just normal pass or anything
- 9:57Speaker 2: like that. So you know, I think that I think
- 9:59Speaker 2: that Indiana could do some things in the throw game
- 10:03Speaker 2: against this secondary. It's just going to be a matter
- 10:05Speaker 2: of I mean, it's all got to come together. Is
- 10:07Speaker 2: Ohio State. Is Ohio State gonna follow Michigan and run
- 10:10Speaker 2: some blitzes. I mean, that's certainly worked in that game,
- 10:14Speaker 2: getting to work four times. But when you do that,
- 10:16Speaker 2: you leave guys that are uncovered, and is Work going
- 10:18Speaker 2: to have the wherewithal to be able to find these guys? First?
- 10:22Speaker 2: Work is not played in a big venue like this.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I'm sorry. There are no cathedrals in the MAC. So
- 10:27Speaker 2: once you get past that, you look at the road
- 10:29Speaker 2: games that they've had so far this year that he
- 10:31Speaker 2: could have participated in, and that's you know, that's at UCLA,
- 10:35Speaker 2: which is you know, lightly attended, at Northwestern, which is
- 10:38Speaker 2: in a soccer practice facility, and at Michigan State at
- 10:41Speaker 2: a point where Sparti has kind of packed it in
- 10:43Speaker 2: for the year. So it's it's it's it's gonna be on,
- 10:48Speaker 2: It's going to be on.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Well, and one last thing that I wanted to ask
- 10:51Speaker 1: you about, and this is not something you really took
- 10:53Speaker 1: a deep dive into, and it wasn't something I really
- 10:56Speaker 1: thought about until a little later on this week. And
- 11:00Speaker 1: that's Kurt Signetti's decision making because he kind of has
- 11:03Speaker 1: a choice to make based on where Indiana is in
- 11:06Speaker 1: the rankings right now. Does he want to sell out
- 11:09Speaker 1: if they're down by ten points fourteen points late in
- 11:13Speaker 1: the game. Does he sort of sell out to win
- 11:16Speaker 1: the game and risk giving up another touchdown or two
- 11:19Speaker 1: and then you turn a ten point loss into a
- 11:21Speaker 1: seventeen or twenty four point loss, which then could conceivably
- 11:25Speaker 1: open up the door to the committee booting them out
- 11:27Speaker 1: of the top twelve. Or does he just kind of
- 11:30Speaker 1: if they're down by fourteen points late, does he just
- 11:33Speaker 1: kind of pack it in and say, listen, we're gonna
- 11:35Speaker 1: keep it respectable. We're going to lose by about the spread.
- 11:37Speaker 1: We're gonna stay you know where. You might drop a
- 11:40Speaker 1: few spots, but you don't drop out of the playoff
- 11:43Speaker 1: picture entirely because all they have left on the schedule
- 11:45Speaker 1: now is Purdue. So you're not picking up a big
- 11:48Speaker 1: signature win after this. So I wonder, and I you know,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I think I'm sure in his head he's saying, we're
- 11:55Speaker 1: gonna play for the win right now. But when you
- 11:57Speaker 1: get to, hey, there's seven minutes left in the fourth
- 12:00Speaker 1: quarter and it's thirty one seventeen or twenty eight to
- 12:06Speaker 1: twenty or something whatever, where you're not guaranteed to be
- 12:10Speaker 1: able to come back, and you know it's fourth and
- 12:13Speaker 1: four in your own end, at your own twenty five yardland.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Are you willing to risk potentially turning a ten point
- 12:19Speaker 1: game into a seventeen point game or a twenty four
- 12:21Speaker 1: point game, or do you kind of play it safe
- 12:24Speaker 1: and try and keep it respectable.
- 12:26Speaker 2: The difference between a seven point deficit and an eight
- 12:29Speaker 2: point deficit and a ten point deficit and a fourteen
- 12:31Speaker 2: point deficit. You have to sit there, I think and look,
- 12:35Speaker 2: I mean, are you doing a good job of stopping
- 12:37Speaker 2: Ohio State. It's all well and good to convert there
- 12:41Speaker 2: and maybe go and get points. But if Ohio States
- 12:44Speaker 2: is going to march right back down the field and
- 12:47Speaker 2: you know, spike it in your face, I don't you know,
- 12:50Speaker 2: I don't know if that's you know, the best thing.
- 12:52Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, every coach is going to say, we're
- 12:54Speaker 2: we're here to win the game. We're not here for
- 12:56Speaker 2: any of the other stuff. The you know, the postseason
- 12:59Speaker 2: will take care of itself. Well, sometimes you know you've
- 13:02Speaker 2: got to you want help, but you need to sit
- 13:05Speaker 2: there and help yourself first. And I don't know if
- 13:09Speaker 2: you're down fourteen or let's even make it worse fifteen,
- 13:12Speaker 2: because you need a seven and an eight that you're
- 13:15Speaker 2: going to do that, you know, pinning down. Now, if
- 13:18Speaker 2: you've had some success defensively, maybe you do punt there
- 13:22Speaker 2: and hope to hold Ohio State, you know, not burn
- 13:25Speaker 2: any time outs at that point obviously, with seven minutes
- 13:28Speaker 2: left in this hypothetical situation, and load up and try again.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I think it's just a matter of what's been working
- 13:35Speaker 2: and what's not. And if your defense has been working,
- 13:38Speaker 2: you're going to do it very differently than if your
- 13:40Speaker 2: defense has not been working. I'm sure there is going
- 13:44Speaker 2: to be somebody on the channel that is going to
- 13:47Speaker 2: be of the mindset of when the time is to
- 13:49Speaker 2: sit there and say, all right, we're just you know,
- 13:51Speaker 2: let's just let's just get through this. We'll go and
- 13:54Speaker 2: take out our frustration on Purdue and you know, hopefully
- 13:58Speaker 2: make the field. So, you know, I I think maybe
- 14:00Speaker 2: that's a cop out answer, but I think too much
- 14:03Speaker 2: is dependent upon how things are playing out, to mean
- 14:06Speaker 2: on like seven different fronts.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, as I get older, I think
- 14:11Speaker 1: I have learned on many different fronts that it depends
- 14:15Speaker 1: is sometimes the very best answer you can give, even
- 14:17Speaker 1: though it does sometimes a little bit feel like a
- 14:19Speaker 1: cop out. So in the other piece of this that
- 14:22Speaker 1: we didn't talk about yet is Signetti. When Indiana was
- 14:25Speaker 1: playing North Nebraska earlier in the year, one of the
- 14:28Speaker 1: reasons that Indiana Nebraska game ended up fifty six to
- 14:30Speaker 1: seven was because Matt Ruhle kept going forward on fourth
- 14:33Speaker 1: down and kept not making it. They were zero for
- 14:35Speaker 1: five the corn Huskers on fourth down in that game,
- 14:39Speaker 1: and that turned what was a fourteen to seven game
- 14:42Speaker 1: late in the first half into a fifty six to
- 14:44Speaker 1: seven loss. Indiana cannot afford a fifty six to seven
- 14:47Speaker 1: loss or anything even remotely close to that this weekend,
- 14:50Speaker 1: so I'm certainly not expecting that, But we'll see. We'll
- 14:54Speaker 1: see where this ends up. Let's get before I let
- 14:56Speaker 1: you go, let's get a score prediction for you. What
- 14:59Speaker 1: do you see happening?
- 15:00Speaker 2: I think you're going to be shocked how much I
- 15:02Speaker 2: overcorrected here. I was going through the beginning of the week,
- 15:05Speaker 2: and I know that the Sethiment Lachlan injury came out
- 15:07Speaker 2: on Tuesday. So let's not make it sound like I
- 15:09Speaker 2: had days and days and days. I'm like, I think
- 15:12Speaker 2: Ohio State is going to win this game by twenty
- 15:13Speaker 2: four I really, you know, once I finished writing Tail
- 15:17Speaker 2: the Tape, and I wrote it early this week because
- 15:20Speaker 2: I just knew with fifty three fifty four hundred words,
- 15:22Speaker 2: I was going to need a lot of time to
- 15:25Speaker 2: get it done and get it right. You know. I
- 15:28Speaker 2: think the Midlachlin thing kind of puts a little pause
- 15:30Speaker 2: if Ohio State is going. You know, Ohio State is
- 15:33Speaker 2: such a slow starting team. Ohio State. I have it
- 15:36Speaker 2: here in front of me. It's like plus forty seven
- 15:39Speaker 2: in the first quarter, and a lot of that is
- 15:42Speaker 2: predicated by non conference I mean, they just get off
- 15:45Speaker 2: to such a slow start. Indiana, on the other half,
- 15:48Speaker 2: is an a plus eighty one. It's not quite their
- 15:51Speaker 2: first Their best quarter theirs is the fourth, while Ohio
- 15:53Speaker 2: State's plus one, twelve and the third. Bring a lot
- 15:56Speaker 2: of numbers at you. As I'm kind of filibustering and
- 15:58Speaker 2: thinking this through, Ohio State is going to do what
- 16:02Speaker 2: it needs to do. It's not necessarily going to go
- 16:04Speaker 2: out with, you know, looking for style points. Ohio State
- 16:07Speaker 2: knows if it wins, it's the next two games, regardless,
- 16:10Speaker 2: it's going to the Big Ten championship game. You win
- 16:13Speaker 2: that game, you're probably the one or the two, probably
- 16:16Speaker 2: the one. If you lose that game, are you the five?
- 16:20Speaker 2: I mean, the five is going to be the number
- 16:22Speaker 2: two Big ten or SEC team quite honestly, barring you know,
- 16:26Speaker 2: you know, inside straight happening there. But you could fall
- 16:29Speaker 2: even further and look at matchups and everything else. But
- 16:32Speaker 2: I think Ohio State just needs to get out there
- 16:34Speaker 2: and be who Ohio State is. Not go out there
- 16:36Speaker 2: and try and run, you know, run up anything or
- 16:39Speaker 2: or whatever. But let's not forget the twenty twenty game
- 16:41Speaker 2: where Ohio State could not put Indiana away in that game,
- 16:45Speaker 2: and that's you know, I think that Ohio State has
- 16:47Speaker 2: to go in for you know, for the finishing move
- 16:51Speaker 2: in Mortal Kombat, just to make sure that it's done.
- 16:54Speaker 2: With that being said, I took a very conservative score
- 16:57Speaker 2: that I'm I'm just I'm I'm I'm going to be
- 16:59Speaker 2: spitting through my team. As I said, I got Ohio
- 17:01Speaker 2: State winning twenty eight seventeen.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Twenty eight seventeen. Okay, yeah, I earlier in the week
- 17:06Speaker 1: picked thirty one twenty one. I'm gonna stick with that.
- 17:08Speaker 1: I think it's closed. I think it's competitive, but it
- 17:12Speaker 1: just feels like even with the offensive line, Ohio State,
- 17:14Speaker 1: just the talent overall on the field. Indiana is a
- 17:18Speaker 1: Indiana is a very good team. Indiana is deserving of
- 17:21Speaker 1: a college football playoff birth, no matter what Greg Sank
- 17:25Speaker 1: and some of the other SEC folks may be saying
- 17:28Speaker 1: right now. But it just feels like they're probably going
- 17:32Speaker 1: to get out talented by Ohio State to a certain
- 17:34Speaker 1: degree unless they unless they are plus two or plus
- 17:37Speaker 1: three in the turnover battle or something like that. It
- 17:39Speaker 1: just feels like I'll have to talent probably wins out
- 17:41Speaker 1: in the end. So I'll say thirty one to twenty one.
- 17:43Speaker 1: So am I right? Is Kevin right? As Kevin dramatically
- 17:47Speaker 1: overcorrected too much? We'll see. We will all find out
- 17:50Speaker 1: together on Saturday, Buckeyes and Hoosiers kicking off the buckeyes
- 17:53Speaker 1: third Top five matchup of the season. It has been
- 17:56Speaker 1: an incredible season, really really fascinating season, and it is
- 18:00Speaker 1: only getting started, even though we are just eight days
- 18:03Speaker 1: away from the Michigan game. Because that Michigan game is
- 18:05Speaker 1: coming next weekend, and then potentially the Big Ten championship game,
- 18:08Speaker 1: and then potentially as many as three or four college
- 18:11Speaker 1: football playoff games after that. All these games just get
- 18:15Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger as we go into the season.
- 18:17Speaker 1: It is going to be quite a dramatic next couple
- 18:19Speaker 1: months for us and for you and for everyone at
- 18:23Speaker 1: bucke huddle dot com. That's where Kevin, Tony and I
- 18:25Speaker 1: cover the team, Mark covers recruiting, got our whole team
- 18:27Speaker 1: of ex's and thse gurus there making you a smarter
- 18:29Speaker 1: football fan all at buckehuddle dot com. We hope to
- 18:33Speaker 1: see you there. That will do it for today. Thank
- 18:35Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 18:37Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.