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🎉 Southern Charm BONUS Premiere Recap with Gibson Johns · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, welcome in Darlings. Today we are talking Southern Charm.
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  Speaker 2: The premiere Okay with me today is the incredible Gibson
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  Speaker 2: John's Gibson.
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  Speaker 3: How are you welcome in?
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  Speaker 4: I am so good, Amy. It's been way too long
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  Speaker 4: since we've done this. Honestly, we've done this in the past,
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  Speaker 4: but it's it's I don't even want to check back
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  Speaker 4: to see how long it's been, so.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to check. We're just gonna get on
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  Speaker 2: the right foot and do it. I have to play
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  Speaker 2: a little welcome in for you. That is something that's
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  Speaker 2: taking the world by storm. You live in Where do
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  Speaker 2: you live? Are you in New York City?
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  Speaker 4: I live in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would imagine that some of the places
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to as a consumer, as a customer,
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  Speaker 2: they're welcoming you in quite often in New York?
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  Speaker 4: Are they They're welcoming me in?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? But have you noticed for real them saying that phrase?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Is that not crazy that every all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: over the last year they've been doing that.
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  Speaker 4: It's just crazy how these things just materializing. Sean and thank.
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  Speaker 2: You for confirming that, because that's just been an anomaly
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  Speaker 2: that I've picked up on over the course of last year.
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  Speaker 2: And I started mentioning it on the show and people
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  Speaker 2: were like, they didn't know what I was talking about,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you will. It will find
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  Speaker 2: its way to you, and then you're never going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to unhear it again.
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  Speaker 4: So exactly, you'll never stop noticing it. You'll never stop noticing.
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  Speaker 2: So Gibson John's I am so happy to be able
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  Speaker 2: to talk about you and all your credits because you
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  Speaker 2: have an amazing podcast. It's called Gabbing with Gibb. And
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about how successful it has been. You have
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  Speaker 2: really skyrocketed because you started this because you were doing
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  Speaker 2: another podcast before and then you branched off and began
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  Speaker 2: this one. So tell me what your journey was from
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  Speaker 2: the other one to this one. When when you started
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  Speaker 2: this one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so last year. So for three and a half years,
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  Speaker 4: I hosted a show for Yahoo. Basically I think that
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  Speaker 4: that's the show that you were on. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: when we did something and you know, it was great,
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  Speaker 4: but I didn't have any control. I didn't own it
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, and Basically I realized, I know they can
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  Speaker 4: make any decisions about my show, and I had to
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  Speaker 4: go along with it. So I started gabbing with Gibb
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  Speaker 4: on the side of my corporate media job, and then
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  Speaker 4: a month later I got laid off. And so now
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  Speaker 4: this is my full time situation that has been all year.
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  Speaker 4: So and as I told you, I've been doing some
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  Speaker 4: like side writing and stuff, but the podcast is the
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  Speaker 4: main gig.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, you made it your Max pushed off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got pushed off the deep end. And it's
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  Speaker 4: been really nice, and just the support for everybody has
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  Speaker 4: been great and it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, it's really and you own your own ip.
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  Speaker 2: You're completely on your own, which I feel the same
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  Speaker 2: way about my situation as well leaving serious and so
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  Speaker 2: it really is freeing and that you have that control
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  Speaker 2: and you are able to grow and build in your
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  Speaker 2: own way and you have control over that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and and whatever comes with that.
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  Speaker 4: God. Yeah, And like you know, I always say, it's
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  Speaker 4: like I do two episodes a week, but like sometimes
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  Speaker 4: I feel like doing three or four, I'll do that
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  Speaker 4: or if I like it, just you can do whatever
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  Speaker 4: you want, and like it's just it's whatever sort of
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  Speaker 4: wherever the wind blows me. I'm just kind of going
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  Speaker 4: to follow that. It's hard because there's no roadmap, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's no like, Okay, what does this look like in
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  Speaker 4: X amount of time? But like you know, as you know,
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  Speaker 4: like you just have to have faith that it's going
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  Speaker 4: to work out. And like, I think that the cream
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  Speaker 4: rises to the top, and I think that you're obviously
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  Speaker 4: the cream of the crop when it comes to this
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  Speaker 4: sort of ecosystem around Bravo. And I'm so appreciative of
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  Speaker 4: the support that you've given me and like you are,
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  Speaker 4: sir no.
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  Speaker 2: Amy No Gibby, Well, yeah, you have a lot of Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: and I think too, there's there's so many podcasts out there,
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  Speaker 2: and it's really nice that there is a community of
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  Speaker 2: people that we know that are so supportive and like
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of cross.
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  Speaker 3: Streams with them.
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  Speaker 2: But also what I love about your podcast is that
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  Speaker 2: you have tons of interviews and you talk. You've got
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  Speaker 2: so many connections with people. So tell me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about some of the maybe the go to episodes
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  Speaker 2: from this year that maybe you can direct people to
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  Speaker 2: listen to, or some that stood out to you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, if we're thinking about recently with
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  Speaker 4: Southern Charm, I just had Nita on, so oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then I also like, and I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe we can get into this later, but like
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  Speaker 4: I felt really strongly that I did not understand why
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  Speaker 4: Olivia was not asked back to Southern Charm after last season.
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  Speaker 4: I did not understand that that decision at all. And
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  Speaker 4: I've been very vocal about that. And I actually had
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  Speaker 4: Olivia on. I just recorded with her and that's going
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  Speaker 4: to come out on Friday, talking about everything. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think that like there's this balance, and as you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's this balance of like talking to the people and
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  Speaker 4: talking about the people. Yes, and you know, I I
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  Speaker 4: think if like if either of us was like more
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  Speaker 4: mean spirited about it, then like that wouldn't really work.
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  Speaker 4: So but it's a fine line. Still. Yeah, I tried
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  Speaker 4: to skate, but yeah, I've had a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: on this year. It's but I actually, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: like the interviews, but I kind of have more fun
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  Speaker 4: just talking about it, you know. It's yeah, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a little I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Like, Yeah, even when I was
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  Speaker 2: un serious, I was like I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to Like I don't want to And Andy even told
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  Speaker 2: me one time because something happened, something happened with somebody
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  Speaker 2: and I don't remember what it was, and he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I've told you, I don't think that you were going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to have these relationships with the housewives
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  Speaker 2: with what you do. And I was like, I know,
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  Speaker 2: you told me that, and he's like, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to talk to them, you know, which was so amazing
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  Speaker 2: that he gave me that nonstructuration.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I think that, like I like doing it,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that I can continue doing that. But
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  Speaker 4: I also and I also I think part of that
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  Speaker 4: is having faith that like the Bravo celebrities, most of
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  Speaker 4: them do understand that this comes with the territory. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the commentating of the shows and the unpacking and the
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  Speaker 4: recapping and all of this we do that it helps
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  Speaker 4: lift the shows up, it helps promote the shows, It
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  Speaker 4: helps people be really plugged in, and so like you
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  Speaker 4: got to have you know, I hate I hate, like
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  Speaker 4: you know, saying that, like you know, it's part of
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  Speaker 4: the gig, but it kind of is, and you have
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  Speaker 4: to people have to have sick skins and if they don't,
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  Speaker 4: and some of them don't, I'm sure even even message
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  Speaker 4: right people sure over the years who like hear what
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  Speaker 4: you say about them, and it's like, you know that,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if those people are cut out for this.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, But you know what, you make a
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  Speaker 2: great point in that over the years, because I've found
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  Speaker 2: that to be the case, like more with the ogs
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  Speaker 2: people who were originally you know, when they were earlier
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  Speaker 2: in the early days of Bravo, whereas now it seems
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  Speaker 2: like over the past I would maybe five years, the
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  Speaker 2: housewives or bravoleberties, they know just like what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: They know that comes with the gig and they have
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  Speaker 2: to have a little bit more of a thick skin,
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  Speaker 2: and they kind of get it. So I don't really
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  Speaker 2: worry about the new people or anyone within the last
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  Speaker 2: five years. I typically don't. It's the older it's the
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  Speaker 2: old guard that they are more sensitive, and I think
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  Speaker 2: they have kind of a right to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they've established themselves. Yeah, so I can understand them being
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  Speaker 2: like a little eh.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's not cool with me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: Of the housewives, just the housewives. No, not just bravolebrities,
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  Speaker 2: but of the housewives, who do you feel like, is
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  Speaker 2: your go to housewife that you are actually kind of
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  Speaker 2: friends with, that you can pile up with it where
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  Speaker 2: those boundaries are like you don't have to worry about that,
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  Speaker 2: where you kind of put the boundaries down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have someone like.
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  Speaker 4: When that comes to mind for me as Margaret Joseph's,
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  Speaker 4: oh my.
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  Speaker 3: God, that's amazing, Yes, I'd love.
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  Speaker 4: Her because Margaret so back in the day, like literally
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  Speaker 4: eight or nine years ago, when I really first started
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  Speaker 4: being in this like entertainment news space, I did a
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  Speaker 4: lot of interviews that were just sort of like written
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  Speaker 4: up for for AOL at the time. That's where I worked.
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  Speaker 4: And Margaret that was her first season of Jersey when
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  Speaker 4: I started that job, and so I did a phone
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  Speaker 4: interview with her. Well, I talked because I didn't I
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  Speaker 4: was saying yes to everything even though nobody knew who
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  Speaker 4: Margaret was, And so I acted on that. Whenever I
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  Speaker 4: talked to people really early in their time on the shows,
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  Speaker 4: they always remember and they appreciate that, or when nobody
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  Speaker 4: really cared about them, just not even to be shady.
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  Speaker 4: It's like nobody knows who they are. And so you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's that's Margaret, that's some of the Potomac ladies. That's
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  Speaker 4: it was Dallas back in the day. Like, So Margaret
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  Speaker 4: is somebody who I think I've talked to her almost
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  Speaker 4: every year since then, and she just to me is
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  Speaker 4: a real person and she cuts to the bullshit. I've
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  Speaker 4: been on her podcast before and she'll whenever you see
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  Speaker 4: her in person, she like she'll give you a little tea,
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  Speaker 4: you know, She'll she'll drop a little something something for
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  Speaker 4: you and like and it's great, and she's not doing
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  Speaker 4: it for you to like get it out there. She's
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  Speaker 4: just doing that because like she's she's a she's a
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  Speaker 4: girl's girl. She's a real one. Yeah, so Margaret's probably
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  Speaker 4: up there in terms of that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great pick, a really really good pick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I would even say, I mean I don't even talk
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  Speaker 2: to Margaret very often at all, but I would put
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  Speaker 2: her in that category as someone that I would put
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  Speaker 2: her in that category. And Shannon, even Shannon, like Shannon,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like yeah, because again, like from the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like we've just been through the gamut.
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  Speaker 3: On parallel in parallel ways, parallel path not exact, not exact.
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  Speaker 2: Paths at all, but like, so I'm just so excited
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  Speaker 2: for you because when you started gabbing with Gibb, how
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  Speaker 2: long ago was that?
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  Speaker 3: So did you celebrate a year yet or has even
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  Speaker 3: been a year?
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  Speaker 4: That was a year? That was a year?
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  Speaker 3: It was? It was.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to launch it right before Bravocon last year
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  Speaker 4: in Vegas because I figure, like I wanted to talk
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  Speaker 4: about it when I was there. I'm really so, I
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  Speaker 4: think I launched it a week before My first interview
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  Speaker 4: was Larsa Pippen was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that part of it is, honestly that some
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  Speaker 4: of the people at Bravo have been really really supportive
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  Speaker 4: and really, you know, when you start a show, you
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  Speaker 4: have no listenership, you have nothing to you know, you
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  Speaker 4: have a track recker from other stuff, but like you're
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  Speaker 4: starting from scratch, and so people have just been really
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  Speaker 4: you know, people having faith in me in the show,
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  Speaker 4: and they've been really it's been really great and really
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  Speaker 4: like you know, affirming, I think to have the support
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  Speaker 4: just from from day one, so you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: a hustle, amy you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hustle, and I think it's a testament
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  Speaker 2: to it's very relatable, like you know, people who listen
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  Speaker 2: to my show. So there are so many entrepreneurs, there
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: are so many artists, There are so many just like
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  Speaker 2: so many people who do have like that nine to
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  Speaker 2: five job that have to put in because it times
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  Speaker 2: have changed, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like.
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  Speaker 2: You you go to a job and you're there for
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years anymore, you know, for the insurance and
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  Speaker 2: like you're getting that gold watch. People switch careers, people
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  Speaker 2: do different things. You have to People are pivoting left
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  Speaker 2: and right. I get messages all the time being like
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  Speaker 2: I want to do this. Do you have any advice
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  Speaker 2: from you? First of all, I don't know because I'm not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an entrepreneur, But in many ways I did,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we build our own things.
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  Speaker 4: So it is you started a business.
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  Speaker 2: It's empowering. So well, let's shift gears and get into
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  Speaker 2: southern charm.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do a little hobbitdat. Oh you got to hear this.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is Luanne Drama Darling saying drama Darling.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, boy, when you start watching this, you're like
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: I miss I miss this.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a seasoning that we don't get every.
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  Speaker 2: Day that's so specific to that Bravo stew that I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely love. And so to get familiar with these people
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  Speaker 2: again and seeing like a new person and JT coming
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  Speaker 2: back bomb Delivia isn't there. Totally agree. I can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to listen to your interview on that. I'd love to
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  Speaker 2: hear what she said, because I remember when that came out.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's so stupid.
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  Speaker 4: It made no sense, It made no sense, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I agree. I think that you know, she was told
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  Speaker 4: that it was because she had this boyfriend in Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Her parents had moved to Texas, she was spending some
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  Speaker 4: time there, and they just assumed that she had moved
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  Speaker 4: on in her life. But I'm like, Madison had her
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  Speaker 4: boyfriend in California first, very for a long time, before
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  Speaker 4: they even they got engaged, before you even moved to Charleston. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's you know, Olivia thinks, and I kind
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  Speaker 4: of agree with her that the real reason is because
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: she was no longer single and so, you know, kind
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  Speaker 4: of a core aspect of this show. And this has
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: happened on Summer House before too a core aspect of
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  Speaker 4: these younger shows is people looking up and people you know,
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  Speaker 4: the singles, like really kind of having that drama. And
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  Speaker 4: so if you have you know, Olivia and Madison who
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: are coupled up, you gotta have. They had to throw
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: these two new women into it that we'll talk about,
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  Speaker 4: like to kind of fill that role, and so I
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  Speaker 4: think that that's kind of what happened to her unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: So but with Taylor, she's literally dating a guy whose
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  Speaker 2: name is a Disney character. She's dating guest on how
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  Speaker 2: did this happen? And then she's like talking to Shep
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  Speaker 2: and doesn't want to engage with him at all, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, then what are.
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  Speaker 3: You going to be doing here? You know, That's where
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what's the point.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not convinced by Taylor necessarily, and not even like
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  Speaker 4: a does in a way that's like is she built
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  Speaker 4: for this? You know? She sort of like he didn't
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  Speaker 4: marry into it, but she's sort of like dated into
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  Speaker 4: this via chef. Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: She's not the most she's very she seems kind of fragile,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe that's why she makes for good TV because
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  Speaker 4: it's sort of like it's kind of like, well, he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be great.
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  Speaker 2: Last season it was amazing, but like, yeah, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Ushered in by Shep or grandfather did in and literally
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  Speaker 2: like her grandfather with the age difference, but like he
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  Speaker 2: clearly I love though with Shep, he does support her
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  Speaker 2: being on the show. He very much seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm this is your thing. I just here and I
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  Speaker 2: like that. I like that his hands off and he's
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  Speaker 2: like not going to start drama with her at least
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  Speaker 2: at this point as far as I know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's Chef is such an interesting character to
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  Speaker 4: me because the idea of the idea of him, like
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  Speaker 4: without watching I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I'm like I'm
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  Speaker 4: really good, Like like you're like too old to be
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  Speaker 4: doing this, like you haven't You're You're the eternal Peter Pan.
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  Speaker 4: But then when you watch him, especially like before the
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  Speaker 4: season really cooks and he sort of puts his steps
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  Speaker 4: in it, and at some point, inevitably right at the beginning,
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  Speaker 4: he he does have this sort of teddy bear quality
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  Speaker 4: that you sort of want to root for him and
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  Speaker 4: you sort of want to believe that he is changing
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  Speaker 4: this time for good and you know, and I know,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like, but the thinking about him before the season,
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  Speaker 4: I was like.
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  Speaker 2: Chef, I know, I know, well, like thinking back, did
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  Speaker 2: you ever see him in action at Bravo Khan being
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: completely blackout drunk?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have eyes on that? I did not.
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  Speaker 4: I I went to their panel, which was a whole
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  Speaker 4: other story, but I don't he didn't see him blackout
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  Speaker 4: drunk at that.
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  Speaker 2: But did you see that clip they played? Because that
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: was that the panel you were at? Because when they
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: were like Craig's the clip again, well, Craig was like,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: we show up in the panel, he was black out drunk,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: and they showed him like look at him and cheves
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: like you know, he like falls.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Into the chair, and I'm like, I guess, I guess
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: that probably was the right panel. But apparently like, yeah,
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I think that it was more like he got didn't
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: you like get kicked out of a casino or.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Didn't said some horrible things to the dealer?
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so like didn't have eyes on that is,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I wasn't out.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: But you were at that panel and he wasn't as
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: obvious as Craig says.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: It was all right, that's interesting.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Well, him just basically well he's got a new girlfriend apparently. No,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's awesome. He's he's pulling himself together. He
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: went and did ayahuasca, right, and then he said, it's
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the equivalent of three days of intense. He did three days,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: and that's the equivalent of like four years of therapy
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: or something along those lines.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know the math, but sure, Jan right exactly,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: that's exactly what that means. Yes, exactly.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And I love like they show him in the ocean
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: like floating around as if he's like an enlightened person.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: But I mean when he does sit down with Austin
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and Craig eventually, I mean, what did you think of
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: his his plea, Like, guys, this isn't friendship.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Come on, you know, Prince on principle, he is correct
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: in that, like, yeah, a friend does not ignore their
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: friends necessarily. But I'm obviously on team Craig and to
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: a lester except Austin in this case, it's like chef
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: acted a fool publicly. He you know, how many times
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: have we gone through this hamster wheel of him like
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: effing up saying he'll get better. He stopped drinking for
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: a little bit, and then we find out that, like
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: you know, he stopped drinking after Bravo Khan, he's really
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you know, facing the consequences for his actions and trying
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: to write the ship. But then, like Craig says, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: you've had fairly dark Knights since then as well. You know,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Craig made sure to drop that though, because Craig knows, like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: it's not just that you's trying to be like, Okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I'm changing, but it's Craig's like no, but like.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't work like that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: It's like it's the Jack's or the James Kennedy experience
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: where they think I'm not drinking as much is gonna help,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: which sure, I'm sure it changes your world like entirely,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: but nowhere near that scratches the surface of the problem, unfortunately.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And now yeah, he's looking for them. It's just weird
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to see them, like, Okay, now we need to make
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: up because we have to do this show together, which
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: is a good reason. So I mean, I here for
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: the for the journey, but I did kind of like
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: how Austin said, that's fair, you know, it's it's fair
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of you to feel like we should have just said
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we need to take a step back instead of just
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: full out ghosting you.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Totally. No, I think that that and that is where
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: like know Craig, Craig especially has shown so much maturity,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: but like there are those moments where like the immaturity
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: jumps out a little bit and completely ghosting somebody like
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Shep when again, you know they're gonna have a film
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: with him again. You know you're gonna have your that
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: association is never going away. So it's sort of like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: you know, I think sometimes and I believe Craig is
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: like totally on the Seffor trajectory and he's like changed
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: for the good. And Page has been such a good
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: influence on him, but he always has. He's always wanted
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to like jump a few steps ahead really easily, you
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. He's always wanted to like skip
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: a couple of steps, I think, and that's kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: always been the case with him, Craig.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Craig, that's a really good point.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Interesting like with the sewing and and then being a lawyer,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: like you know, you know what, I feel like we've
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: seen it every season from him, and that's you're like
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: A that's just that's just you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Know, it's yeah, it's not necessarily a character flaw, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I did I see what you're saying like that, there
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: is a bigger picture to that, and if you were
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: to like really go back, it's almost like, well, what
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Shep would have said a long time ago and what
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: he said for many seasons, which is like you're trying
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to compete with me, You're trying to be better than me.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: And in many ways, it's like, I think Craig is
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: beyond that now because it's not that hard to be
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: better than Shep in many and certainly the ways that
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: he's laid out his life. But when Shep is in
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: his confessional and he's trying to list off all the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: times where Craig has messed up, and I'm like, there
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: is no comparison, Like I don't even hear Craig's voice slurring,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and he's just mad.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: He's just ir even in different pages, were in different books.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You know, it's completely like.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: You got to back that up, baby, So well, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: kind of am interested to see what's going to happen
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: with JT and Vanita, and I know you had Venita
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: on your show, so in like, are they gonna end
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: up together?
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, are they?
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: They explore, they explore a relationship of some sort.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: So what happened to her boy do?
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I believe? So the boyfriend they broke up at the
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: very beginning of filming, I think, and she said that
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: he he was going on Broadway and she didn't want
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: to like hold him back by like have him like
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: by like making him like visit her all the time
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: in Charleston basically, and there it sounds like her and
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: this guy Manny who shoots a date we saw last
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: season they were like genuinely best friends who have known
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: each other for a very long time. So she would
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: just sort of like fly away, like go pursue this,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and like you know, the JT and Vanita thing. I'm
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: sort of like, I'm trying to decide how like authentic
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: that really is in terms of like, oh, like let's
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: explore this because it kind of feels front. So like yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: maybe maybe they got a few dms last season that
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: were like, oh my god, you guys should date, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and that's sort of oh interesting. Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I questioned the authenticity only based on or just his
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: reckless behavior of like falling for somebody so quickly because
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: he was just in love with Taylor. He literally just
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: said I love you Taylor and then now literally so.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: But he is a hothead, man, I mean you can tell.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I know certainly, like, but I'm very much here for
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the canes.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: That was the cane That was hilarious, and like, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: know what, ja, He's not like my favorite person, but right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I appreciate him for this show because the show it's
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: always been sort of this boys club and it's still
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: sort of is. But he's this sort of like fiery
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: personality that has been able to exist on this show
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and like plant his flag in the ground for even
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: if it's just for two seasons. Yeah, yeah, and without
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: being part of the Chef Craig and Austin contingent.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's a good point.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: But he's like still you know, doing his thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Which that is extremely impressive.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: But I appreciate it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I was watching and I was like, Wow, he's such
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a fascinating character.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I was like fascinating.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't really like him, I don't really
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: hate him, but like I just kind of he's like
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a cartoon character, you know that you just feel like
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you want that grittiness, that energy just just kind of
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like kind of rub you the wrong way here and there,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and then had these weird jokes hobbling out of the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: gas station with all those canes and that ATV crash
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and him having like a life or death situation and
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: ever and being like it was hardly that, but we
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• 26:46
  Speaker 2: to Shep, like, yeah, he us drama dollling Shep's farm though,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that is like I don't remember hearing about this farm
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: ever in my life. And so this is another layer
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: to why Southern Charm is on our television sets and
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I just love this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: It's it's like I feel like once a season we
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: get the reminder that chef is old money, and it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: like old South money. It's like it's like once a
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: season we get that big reminder. It's like yeah, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'll take it, you know, And that's
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: it's it adds Yeah, you're right, and adds sort of
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: like heft to Southern charm.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It's like there's a lot done back here. Probably there is.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Was that his dad or no, who was that? Okay?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I couldn't figure out. I was like, did they say.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I thought it said dad, but then I was like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: he doesn't really seem like his dad.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Does he run the farm?
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: But the the Boykins, the Boykins, I mean, they go
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: way back, so I did. I did appreciate that, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like the name the King George, the third name drop
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and back the seventeen eighties.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Love loved it, loved it all.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So all right, let's talk about how I love Molly
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: this new model, two good vibes, so quirky as hell, funny.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I didn't watch America's Next Time Model, did you. I didn't.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know her, not her season, so I don't
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: even know. I was like these credits, hello, I know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can see you can see why, like
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: she is somebody who you know, the other guys on
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Southern Charm have maybe have something with in the past.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Like she's like, she's such a catch, Like she's gorgeous,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: she's funny, yeah, really cool and down to earth, like
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: sign me up. She seems like a good addition already, and.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: She makes lamb chops. Well with Whitney, she was like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: oh God, just her. I was worried because so first
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of all, it was like her and Craig that were
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: sexting over DMS, which I was like, Oh my god,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: what's Page gonna save?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Who hasn't?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking like, oh man, what is Page
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: gonna say about this? And then Craig pops up as
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: like Page thinks that's wha. I was like, God, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: love that woman.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: She's great.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's the best, she's the best sport. She knows
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: what the gig is.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. She is so confident that it's amazing. Oh,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: by the way, speaking of confidence, that joke when Molly
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and Madison were talking about how like getting a man
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: these days would be, you know, She's like, I'm a
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: jealous I'm a psycho woman. I'm a psycho jealous woman
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: or something like that, and Madison said, I mean like yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I'd put an air tag and be like swallow it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I was like that hilarious.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, she probably made her for a fiance
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: or her fionce husband. She probably made him do that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Right, fance husband? Are they married yet? I don't even know. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I think they did get married. I don't know. Yeah
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: they're married, yeah, I think yeah?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I love Madison and Molly and so here
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: for it. I did.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I totally related to her saying she had gained like
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: forty five pounds and so she lost a lot of
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: her modeling jobs. I didn't relate with that bark because
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I was never modeled. That's not what I'm saying.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: When she said, people always ask her if she's gotten
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: a BBL, and she's like, no, I just gained Wait,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: honest to god, Gibson, kid you not. When I gained like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty pounds, maybe twenty five over the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: course of I don't know if it was pandemic, I'm
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: not sure at what point, And they're like, did you
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: get a BBL.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I just gained weight. I am not.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I am not kidding you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: People genuinely thought I got surgery, and MJ specifically to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: this day, does not. She thinks I'm actually lying. She
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: thinks I'm lying. I'm like, I'm not kidding you. And
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: by the way, I've lost weight since then, So I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: can't wait to show her my ass so she could
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: be like, see, you know what.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Amy. In the words of Giselle Bryant, the word on
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the street is that you're the word on the street.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, thank you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I also people talking, Yeah, it's a compliment, it's a
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: good kid.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I mean I took it as such, but it was
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: so funny. I'm like, no, no, So all right, So
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: then we talked about Molly we love her, and Okay,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the farm is amazing. They all talk about these dudes
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: talk about it. Oh Shep's vision that he had about
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Austin and his sister, that moment that was I felt like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: at first, he goes, well, let me just get right
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: into it. I had a vision about you and your sister,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I felt really triggered, or not triggered.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I just felt like, you can't just say that out
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: of the blue like that. I just felt really protective
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: or sad. And you see Austin's face.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt the same way. At first, I was
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: sort of like Shaffy someone like use his like late
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: sister to like connect with him and try to get
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: back in his good graces. And so at first I
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: was sort of like, like, let not go. Here's this
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: episode's been on for fifteen minutes so far, like let's yes.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: But I felt as he continued talking about it that
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: it was just sort of of him just kind of
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: being really genuine and like I think that, yeah, did
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: have this even like you can do it from the thing,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: but I actually thought that like it felt really Yeah,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: it's kind of moved by it. Actually at the end
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: of that conversation.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I was too.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And I think what was so moving is that you
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: see it on Austin's face. It's all over his face.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You just when you wear your heart in your sleeve
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: like that, you connect with these people and you just think, gosh,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: there's some serious pain there and you really can relate
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: and you understand. And I appreciated that Shep was calling
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: that out and not calling out but at least, you know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: maybe bringing.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: That up reminding Yeah. And I think that like even
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: when they did that flashback clip of him, I remember
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: that scene. I never forget that scene about him telling
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Chelsea back in like what it was that like season
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: whenever you joined, like four or five, whenever that was.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And like, first of all, like his voice is different,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: he looks so much younger, and you're sort of like, wow,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: like we know a lot about this guy, and you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: he the first thing we think about when we think
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: of Austin as like fuck boy and this guy who
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: like is noncommittal in relationships and all these.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Things off his parents' money.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: But there are so many things that go into the
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: why Austin is the way he is, and like we
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: know so much more about him than that sort of
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: party line about him, and like, yeah, I do appreciate
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the reminders that, like we have gone deep with these people,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: even though we sometimes forget that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does acknowledge he's like my therapist brings
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that up a lot. We keep coming back to that,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, right, that's so tough, yeah, and pretty
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: amazing to have that scene kind of like roll out
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of that and into a piece of comedy, which was
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: that he had a vision about Taylor in a nest
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and like a bird and then she kept flying into
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the walls and windows.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And liked have to do that route too, right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, you think she's a baby, you you know,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: now she's on this show trying to fly on her own,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's symbolic of how she won't back next season.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: If she's flying into the wall, she can't hold her own,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: just saying, and then Craig, then Craig in the other
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: room being like these fucking nutheads, you know, listening with
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the cheese puffs, like the chicken beyond so good.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: So the Carolina Cup, wait, is it the Carolina Cup
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: that they went to? Yeah, the Carolina Cup. They that
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: looked like a sweet thing to go to. And I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: was like, kind of underwhelmed by their outfits, except like
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Vanita and Leva, I feel like, turn it out. But
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: when Madison and Madison, Madison and Molly like went to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that store and the and Madison's like, I want to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: be over the top, and it's like, you just got
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: a sun dress?
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: What the fuck happened?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I need yeah exactly. It's like, you know, it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: not Real Housewives, so it's you know, the bars lower right.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: But she did do the Pretty Woman, which.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Was exactly like we've seen Madison on a red carpet
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: over the past year. She can turn it out.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: She can definitely turn it out.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: You know, I would have liked a little more.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I would have liked more, but yes, I would have
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: liked I saw in the Pretty Woman, I'm like, no,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that's so on the nose, right, But she was making
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: jokes about it, and she was funny about it. Like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: she had some really good jokes this episode, and I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: was like, you're hilarious.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I've always said Amy that, like, to me, Madison is
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: a big fish in a small pond on this show.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I think that Madison is like a different echelon of
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: reality star. You know, he is so fucking good. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: that's just watching her, watching her in the confessionals. But
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: also it's like her dynamic with Austin is it will
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: never not be electric. I know they both moved on
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and they're not going to go back that route, but like.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: No, they will.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I'm convinced there's something in there that is so magnetic
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: between them, and they give each other shit so much
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: and so well. I love seeing her spar with the guys,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: like she could hold her own and bury them.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: To be honest, yes, said I love her.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: She I'm convinced that she and Austin will get back together.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I do wow and have a child. That's just what
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I don't think she's going to stay with Brett.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I really don't. I just can't see.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: You're like, you're like the human embodiment of Chef's ayahuasca trip,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: just like the visions I have.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I do, whether I like them or not. Yeah, so
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: but that was fun at the Carolina Cup. And and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Molly was upset because like, I mean, here comes Patricia.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: She's got like her picnic birkin in one hand and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: like Whitney's twenty two year old girlfriend in the other.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And I'm like that checks out. I'm here everybody. And
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: then just.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Freaking JT giving her the cane. I get it, like
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: he wanted to include her, but yeah, that was a
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: bad move.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: No read read the room, you know, understand the optics
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: of that. You know, like it's just not Pat's not
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: one of the one of the one of the gals
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: in that regard like she got she's got to be
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: treated differently. She's the queen different age bracket, the whole yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: whole thing, you know, likes going.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: To come back to bite him, right, because doesn't he
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: call her a bitch?
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That's what was in the trailer.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: That's that's what Craig accuses him of saying when he
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: she kind of was like I reacted weirdly to it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I think Craig says that JT walks away from that
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: and calls her a bit.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's not going to be good.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You can't come no wonder he left the show. You
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: can't come back to the show and piss off Patricia.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: No, absolutely not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: That's he does leave the show, right he quit.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: He quit after filming.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: But oh, he fully filmed the whole He.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Filmed the whole. This is actually the first time it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: ever happened. I think on Bravo he filmed the whole season,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: and he was filming Confessionals because they do that later
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: on obviously, and then he quit midway through filming Confessionals.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And so my read on it is that like, because
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: you know the film their scenes, they film what they know.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: But when you do the confessionals, the line of questioning
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: I think sort of hints that sort of where your
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: storyline might be going, or what other people have been
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: saying about you or things like that. I think my
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: read right now is that like he got it. He
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: was picking up a scent of like where how he's
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: going to be portrayed this season or what maybe more
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: of the drama he was involved than they didn't realize,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: and he pulled the plug. I don't think it's gonna
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: be good for him. Yeah, it's good. It's drama Darling.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, wow, yeah, that makes so much sense.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: And they all hate him, like they all do not
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: like him at all.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Madison like, yeah, that's a bomber.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Wow, Bethany Wow, I.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Mean yeah, he was such an idiot, like going up
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to Austin last year at the end, I mean that
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: was so stupid. He's such a showman in that way.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: He's such a showman. Yeah. It almost feels like he's
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: like operated, like he's like existed just outside of this
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: show in Charleston. It's like a very small town for
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: like eight years now. And then he's sort of like
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: tried to study what they did, yes and to the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: to the cool to the cool kids group.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And he screwed it up.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: He's still on the outside.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did love, love love Rodrigo. So, Rodrigo and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and Tyler are there at the cup and Tyler is
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like asking. Somebody's like, so are there many ponies to
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: pet here? Are there many ponies anywhere? And they're like no.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh okay, like he was so chaous exactly,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and then Molly's like, I'm a macaroon whore.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I know. I was so I was so excited about that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Taylor and shep had that awkward conversation and she obviously
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: blocked him her he she blocked him, yes, clearly. And
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I love seeing Ryan and doctor Eddie, Patricia's good friend Ryan.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing I love about Southern charm in
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: general is that they really pad the group.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: They bring in a lot I was.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Thinking the same thing, right, I know, and and in
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: the same way, they bring in a lot of people,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: but it feels like people who genuinely sort of have
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: again sort.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Of drama Darling, drama Darling. They're coming on my window. No,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: it's fun. I love it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: It's like New York and it's finest. Hey, guys, get
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the sounds of the season.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Wow, this Bilton soundboard over here.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not out of the ordinary to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: have siren. Do you think that it's like you're building though, Yeah, I.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Think we're I think we're okay. The thing that I
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: love of the about Southern Charm Amy is like, I
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: feel like, you're right, they pad the cast, but it
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: feels like people who just genuinely exist, like in their group,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, it felt almost like Madison was like, oh,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: let's invite Ryan and his husband on to like film
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: a little bit at the beginning and see how they stick.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And like, yeah, I love the idea that like between
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Rodrigo and his husband or boyfriend and then Ryan and
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: his husband, Like we're gonna have some gay representation on
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the show too.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And it's great, especially in the South. You know, it's
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: really nice and it's it's just awesome.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles is such.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: A modernizing you know, it's like slightly it's not in
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: a way that's I think a couple of seasons ago
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: they tried to do it like a really overt way
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: that felt kind of unnatural to the show. But they've
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: sort of smoothed that out a little bit, and like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: you know, we have two interracial gay couples that are
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: in the mix now, Like that's kind of cool.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: It's great, and I think you're right, Like, and sometimes
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I can't really fault casting or Bravo when they trip
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: over it not being authentic because they're trying and you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: kind of have to start somewhere, so whenever it begins,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's not going to be as authentic. So I'm
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: just glad that right now it's starting, we're starting to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: get to a nice authenticity point.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And as we grow in the Bravo sphere, it seems
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: like the shows continue to do that and evolve in
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that way, which is which.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Is really good.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: So is there anything else you want to say before
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: we wrap this up about Southern Charm? About the premiere, like,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: did I miss anything?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: No, I feel like we hit most of the beats.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it was like a I thought
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: it was like a good premiere. It wasn't like the
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: It wasn't the best premiere ever. But like I think
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: write that what you said at the top, which is
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: like Southern Charm is like this sort of itch that
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: you don't need, you don't realize you sort of need scratched,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: you know. And they and they come back and it's like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: you know what, stuff has changed, but not that much
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: has changed. It's still kind of like the same show
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: that always was. And you know, and I was thinking
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: about this with last week's Vanda Pum Rules news, which
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: is like, you know, they had this like because they've
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: those shows, I feel like sort of came up right
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: at the same time, but they had sort of different
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: trajectories towards the end there Vander Pump Rules, like obviously
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: had that last few nothing was bigger on Bravo ever,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: but like they couldn't follow it up and it was
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: just it kind of petered out after that. Yeah, And
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about Southern Charming relation to that and
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: how they're kind of still chugging along, and I was like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: you know what, it's actually kind of to not having
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: a big, kind of all encompassing scandal moment like that,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: because like it was impossible for Random Rules to recover
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: from that. Meanwhile, Southern Charm is over here and like
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: it's been fewer seasons, but they're just going to keep
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: chalking along for years and years and years. I feel
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: like they can just keep this this move.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: What you're saying is slow and steady wins the race,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you know, and when you blow something up. Yeah, that
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: is so wild. And I wonder if vander Pump Rules
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: didn't revolve around the restaurants, if they would have had
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: more of a chance to come back.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I know? I think that, like I think they could
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: have they could have like shift pivoted earlier.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: I always think that they could have made the show
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: more about because obviously the issue was that like none
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: of them worked there. They got rich, and they got famous,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: and like their jobs were like being famous. I feel
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: like if they had pivoted three or four years ago
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: to making it more overly about that, it could have
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: sustained itself. But they refused to do that, and then
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: it just it was too late, too you know, too
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: late to yeah, to write the course.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Too little, too late.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Well exactly.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Two more lines that I love from Southern Charm was
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: what Rodrigo called j T. Willy Wonka coming out of
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: his house like the chocolate factory with the cane and
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: then when they go when he JT's got all the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: canes and he gets in the van and and then
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I think Madison said, you're you're cane influencer. You're cane influencer,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and then caine fluencer. And then I think Taylor is
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the one who said you should start in only canes.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: That was pretty good. That might be the funniest thing
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Taylor's ever said.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie that she can stick around for
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: a couple more episodes because that was a good line anyway.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Gibson John's I'm so excited that you're here. Please tell
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the darlings where they can find you, and listen to
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: your podcast.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, well, thank you for having me. I loved our chat,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna be on my show in a couple
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: of weeks and so people can go listen to that
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: very soon. I think I think I told you I
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: want to talk about all the new editions to the Bravovers.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: So many good ones, you.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Know, such a great idea, like let's just do it.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: You know, there's been so many good people add into
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: our lives this year. But yeah, gabbing with GiB wherever
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: you get your podcasts at least two episodes a week,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: sometimes interviews, sometimes discussions like this, and again Amy will
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: be on a couple of weeks, so that episode.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: This has been such a blast and thanks for listening.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: You guys, have a great weekend.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Drama Darling, Drama Darling