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- 1:12as a young entrepreneur, discover why avoiding bad deals is key, how constraints fuel creativity
- 1:16and discipline and the importance of building a solid foundation before scaling gain insights
- 1:21on strategic fundraising, maximizing ROI and staying focused on profitability for lasting success.
- 1:38What would be the one thing that you would tell a young entrepreneur who's raising money
- 1:44who's in a similar situation to you? 18 months is an incredibly long time, so stressful, so time
- 1:50consuming. So what's the one lesson? What's the thing that you're telling somebody right now
- 1:54who's trying to raise cap? It could be a woman who's struggling to find the right conversations
- 1:59of the right investors gets a or it could just be another young entrepreneur because yes, women
- 2:04probably have a much harder raising money, but I know a lot of just entrepreneurs have predatory
- 2:09term sheets given to them as well. Yeah, it's just hard. Well, there's two or three things I might say.
- 2:15The most important thing just on the back of the story that I just told is just because
- 2:19somebody offers you a term sheet doesn't mean you need to take it. So right, don't do a bad deal.
- 2:26It's always better to do no deal than do a bad deal, right? So do a deal that you feel good about
- 2:34and don't believe the hype that says this is this is the way it's always going to be. This is the
- 2:42only deal you can get. This is the everyone's doing deals like this. This is normal.
- 2:47And yes, there are definite norms in venture capital, but there's always a spectrum of normal.
- 2:54Normal is not one thing. There is no such thing as a normal term sheet. So if something doesn't
- 3:01sit right with you, just don't do it, work with it. And I think the amazing thing I've found
- 3:09about not having access to capital meant I got really creative, right? And I got really,
- 3:17really good at driving ROI on very small amounts of money. So allow the barrier to be an asset,
- 3:26right? So use it to your advantage to get creative, to find ways of making things happen
- 3:33that couldn't have happened otherwise, because when you do get capital and if you press
- 3:39available long enough, ultimately you will find capital. You will find the right capital. You
- 3:43will absolutely no doubt in my mind. But what you can do whilst you're waiting to raise capital
- 3:49is make sure that you get really good at generating ROI, because when you do get money, large chunks of
- 3:57money hit your business, you can then really put that to work and be really good at making that
- 4:02money work for you. And what we see a lot of out in the marketplace is that when money's easy,
- 4:10and we're not in an easy money time right now, we're in a difficult money time, but when money
- 4:15is easy, we overspend, we over capitalize, we get ahead of ourselves, we waste it, and we're not
- 4:22smart. And all that does is it makes it harder for us to raise more money. And so what I would say
- 4:32is get smart with what you've got, because if you can get smart with what you've got ultimately,
- 4:38you'll get good at generating great returns, you'll get great at making money, you'll get much
- 4:44more focused about having to be profitable much faster than potentially you would otherwise,
- 4:49which is actually really, really important. And you'll build a great business, ultimately your
- 4:56business will have great foundations, because you didn't over capitalize too soon or too easily.
- 5:02I'm curious if you think there is ever a point when somebody should be raising money before
- 5:11they're profitable, or do you think that people should really focus on growth funding?
- 5:16Yes. I think a lot of companies, it's quite hard to build something profitable without
- 5:26something to start with. Our own business, we injected $40,000 of initial startup capital and
- 5:33managed to turn that into $100 million in value, but that's a really unusual thing to be able to
- 5:39do, right? To turn $40,000 into cash that you can make more money from. So it usually takes some
- 5:48money to make money. The question is how much money and what do you need to get you going?
- 5:58So figuring out where that sort of first, usually your friends, your family, your network, people
- 6:08who believe in you are going to be the first people to rally around you to help you get your
- 6:15foot in the door and actually start to make something happen. So I definitely believe in raising
- 6:20capital before a business is profitable, but the faster you were thinking about being on the
- 6:27trajectory towards profitability is definitely to your advantage, for sure.
- 6:32So after under Canvas, now you want to solve for a problem. So you experience this, it's not so great
- 6:42experience with the venture capitalist. So this is something that you're trying to solve for now.
- 6:45So where do you go after under Canvas? What's the first step? Is it a lot of people that were
- 6:50operators and businesses that could go into angel investing, or maybe they would bolt on to an
- 6:54existing venture capital firm and maybe try and improve them a little bit, but you didn't do that.
- 7:01Or maybe you did try all those things and I don't know about it, but eventually it ended up
- 7:06with a nigma. Yeah, so maybe that was stupid. I don't know.
- 7:11No, maybe that's what I should say. No, not at all, not at all. So what is the goal?
- 7:16So was a nigma the thing that you took on almost immediately after? Did you take some time and
- 7:20actually just take a break, relax, were you very headstrong and you jumped out?
- 7:24Oh, I took no time whatsoever, which was also probably really stupid.
- 7:30Listen, it's because you're passionate about it. I do think you probably should have taken some time,
- 7:35but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah, growing is what it is. Anytime at all.
- 7:42You got a hundred million dollar exit and you just jumped into like the next job.
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- 9:10Well, the greasy thing was after that happened. The night we signed the deal for under canvas,
- 9:18you know, we're ready to pop the champagne. I was still staying on for CEO for a year post the
- 9:24transaction. I came home from work that day. It's signed this amazing deal. Ready with the
- 9:35champagne. Ready to be all excited. I have two young boys at home. I'm a mother of two and my oldest
- 9:42then was vomiting up a storm and we had norovirus hit our house that night. For the next two weeks,
- 9:51like a successively someone else got the stomach flu, we spent the next two weeks throwing
- 9:59up in our household. There wasn't even a moment of copying the champagne.
- 10:06But I did go back to work for under canvas for a year of transition post that sale.
- 10:13So things were brewing for me during that year. We're thinking about,
- 10:20what do I do next? What do I care about? How do I make this idea reality in my own head?
- 10:28And I was eager to get stuck in and get to work working with other women listening to their stories,
- 10:37hearing their pain and their challenges. And ready for a new adventure. So that's what happened.
- 10:45And we started investing in the beginning of 2020, which was also a really good time
- 10:50to start a new adventure. Of course. Of course. Yeah, but I was very thankful for it actually,
- 10:58because it meant that during that crazy, crazy time, I still had a very strong sense of purpose
- 11:06and people to support and people to rally around. Because it's actually very difficult once you,
- 11:11and maybe not many people talk about this actually, but when you've been a CEO and you've been a
- 11:16founder of a startup for a long time, I mean, 10 years is, you know, a good chunk of one's life.
- 11:21It was a quarter of my life. It's very hard to suddenly not have that. You know, I had a lot of
- 11:31people I was responsible for, you know, I spent my life traveling from one place to another,
- 11:36being all over the place, meeting people, working with different groups of people. And
- 11:40suddenly for all to stop is quite strange. And I'm 40 something. So I wasn't ready to retire.
- 11:49And, you know, it goes on a beach. I still had a lot of energy and a lot of passion. And so actually,
- 11:54I was very thankful that when the pandemic rolled around and there was no beach to go sit on,
- 12:01that I wasn't planning on sitting one on one. So, yeah, it was serendipitous.
- 12:08And to each their own, I mean, I advocate for rest after having a 10-year run and building a
- 12:13business. But I also know that it's, yeah, and I will advocate a little bit from a little bit.
- 12:18I'm a large again. But it's funny, because you're not that abnormal to be quite honest. I don't
- 12:23know too many people. Like I interview a lot of people. I was an operator myself and then still
- 12:28into a degree. And it doesn't matter if you have a successful thing or a successful event or
- 12:33something, and you're just like, what's the next thing? It's always, well, it's just a personality
- 12:38at the end of the day. I really believe that. It is. And the kind of people that are founders and
- 12:42entrepreneurs, you know, that's kind of like the inbuilt thing is you're designing to be going where
- 12:49no one else has gone and doing things. No one else has gone. And you're constantly looking for,
- 12:54you know, the path that doesn't exist yet, so that you can go forward. So it's a blessing and
- 13:00a curse for sure. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable, don't forget to hit that
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