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- 0:06Speaker 1: Good evening to the UK Column viewers and listeners. Welcome
- 0:11Speaker 1: to what's really a special edition. I'm going to be
- 0:15Speaker 1: speaking to Justin Walker about money, banking, the financial system,
- 0:23Speaker 1: and I'll just say that it was back in February
- 0:26Speaker 1: that I had a chat with him about the Bradbury Pound.
- 0:29Speaker 1: That's that conversation still available on the UK Column website.
- 0:33Speaker 1: And we were also talking about the history of the
- 0:39Speaker 1: Bradbury Pound, and of course on the UK Column website
- 0:43Speaker 1: there's also let me read this out so I get
- 0:45Speaker 1: it right, Banker's Bradbury's carnage and slaughter on the Western Front.
- 0:52Speaker 1: And that actually is a little video which Mike Robinson
- 0:55Speaker 1: produced back in November twenty twelve, so a long time
- 1:00Speaker 1: ago but still highly relevant. Well that's the little introduction
- 1:05Speaker 1: just in.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Thank you Brian for inviting me again. I
- 1:10Speaker 2: mean you and I have known each other now. I mean,
- 1:13Speaker 2: it's frightening, isn't it. And he was about two thousand
- 1:15Speaker 2: and four. I think we first touched base as twenty
- 1:17Speaker 2: years ago.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it must be about there. What's frightening is that
- 1:20Speaker 1: we can't actually remember it to pin it down, and
- 1:28Speaker 1: it's incredible at the moment. I know there's all this
- 1:30Speaker 1: stuff about as you get older, you know, time speeds up.
- 1:35Speaker 1: But I talk to a lot of younger people and
- 1:38Speaker 1: they also think that life is very fast at the
- 1:40Speaker 1: moment and time goes past quickly. But I'll just say
- 1:45Speaker 1: with that happening, it's even more difficult to remember what happened.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Well, I had somebody because I don't like political parties,
- 1:54Speaker 2: as you know, I don't like the format of political parties,
- 1:57Speaker 2: but somebody did say to me a few days ago
- 2:00Speaker 2: that we ought to set up the Grumpy Party. For
- 2:03Speaker 2: all those of us who've been at it for a
- 2:04Speaker 2: long time, we've probably sweeped a par because I think
- 2:07Speaker 2: even thirty year olds are getting grumpy now.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true, but it's also true to say
- 2:13Speaker 1: that there are a lot of more mature people who
- 2:16Speaker 1: have worked an incredibly long time, far longer than you
- 2:20Speaker 1: and I have worked. They've been trying to educate people
- 2:25Speaker 1: and explain what's happening and get the truth out there,
- 2:29Speaker 1: and I've always got great respect for them. I remember
- 2:35Speaker 1: a number of the ladies that got involved with the
- 2:37Speaker 1: UK Column. A lady called Margaret Carroll I mentioned at
- 2:43Speaker 1: the UK Column conference in Bristol on Saturday, just gone
- 2:49Speaker 1: because she was one of the original people that got
- 2:51Speaker 1: in touch with me. But then you know, we had
- 2:54Speaker 1: Sheila and Carol and Kate and and yeah, a lot
- 2:59Speaker 1: of people who were very hard their whole lives really
- 3:02Speaker 1: trying to trying to make sense of the madness around us.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Now today we thought we'd get back into the subject
- 3:10Speaker 1: and money. And you've been pretty active in the background,
- 3:14Speaker 1: and in particular you saw the opportunity to make contact
- 3:18Speaker 1: not only with the new MPs but also to see
- 3:23Speaker 1: how the Chancellor would react to some simple questions, what
- 3:28Speaker 1: have you been up to?
- 3:29Speaker 2: Well, yes, I've written a twenty eight page open letter.
- 3:36Speaker 2: I have to admit that four pages are full of
- 3:38Speaker 2: nice pictures and stuff, so it's not quite bad. But
- 3:40Speaker 2: it is to show the whole system of finance and
- 3:45Speaker 2: international finance for what it is. It is an open letter.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I know the Chancellor has received well. Put this way,
- 3:54Speaker 2: it went to the HM what you call it with
- 4:00Speaker 2: it came put this way my MP bless him, Tim Farron,
- 4:04Speaker 2: and did exactly what I asked him to do as
- 4:06Speaker 2: an MP, and he sent my letter to HM Treasury
- 4:10Speaker 2: to the Chancellor asking specifically for the four questions to
- 4:16Speaker 2: be answered, and he did exactly as I asked him,
- 4:20Speaker 2: So that's good. That's a big tick for a change
- 4:22Speaker 2: for an MP.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Justin can I can I just come back in there,
- 4:27Speaker 1: because I think this is a very important point. There
- 4:31Speaker 1: are a lot of people who have got to the
- 4:33Speaker 1: stage where they utterly dismiss MPs their useless, don't bother
- 4:41Speaker 1: to speak to them or anything else. But at the
- 4:43Speaker 1: end of the days, it's true that MP's are part
- 4:49Speaker 1: of all we've got and we shouldn't give up on
- 4:53Speaker 1: these people. We should always be trying to educate them
- 4:57Speaker 1: and engage with them, because it's clear that across the
- 5:04Speaker 1: all spectrum of what is it, six hundred and something
- 5:07Speaker 1: MPs in the house, there are many MPs, even if
- 5:13Speaker 1: we say it's a handful of MPs, but they're there.
- 5:17Speaker 1: They're not happy with what's happening in many areas. A
- 5:21Speaker 1: lot of them, we know, are frightened or scared in
- 5:24Speaker 1: the system, and we know that because they'll actually say
- 5:27Speaker 1: so in private. But they are trying to do some things,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and I think it's very important that we still try
- 5:34Speaker 1: and engage with MPs, give them facts and evidence, and
- 5:39Speaker 1: ask them to do things because ultimately they are there
- 5:42Speaker 1: to serve us.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Aren't they. Well, I you know, I couldn't agree with
- 5:47Speaker 2: more with you. I mean, I'm we've got we've got
- 5:50Speaker 2: three hundred and whatever it is, brand new MPs and
- 5:53Speaker 2: they're not completely under the well, they're not completely inside
- 5:57Speaker 2: the Westminster bubble yet telling them Mark, But there are
- 6:00Speaker 2: some who I still think will wake up and think, gosh,
- 6:04Speaker 2: what's happening? And remember we had Andrew Bridgen, you know,
- 6:08Speaker 2: bless him. I wish he was still in Parliament. Perhaps
- 6:11Speaker 2: off that man, you know, once he realized that we
- 6:14Speaker 2: were up against the globalists and what they were doing,
- 6:18Speaker 2: he came out and he said, right, I'm going to
- 6:20Speaker 2: go where the truth takes me. And he did mention
- 6:23Speaker 2: the Bradbury Pound in parliament. That's the first MP to
- 6:26Speaker 2: probably have mentioned the Bradbury Pound or Treasury notes for
- 6:31Speaker 2: well over seventy years. But going back to Tim Farron,
- 6:34Speaker 2: I did actually get a response from the Treasury. And
- 6:38Speaker 2: because it's so short, I will read it to you.
- 6:42Speaker 2: And this bear in mind. This is to Tim Farron,
- 6:45Speaker 2: and it's come from It's signed by nobody, It's just
- 6:49Speaker 2: simply signed by the Correspondence and Inquiry Unit HM Treasury
- 6:56Speaker 2: and bear in minded. He sent the letter to the
- 6:59Speaker 2: Chancellor and what he got back was this, Dear Tim Farron,
- 7:04Speaker 2: thank you for your correspondence dated tenth of October on
- 7:08Speaker 2: behalf of your constituent, mister Justin Walker. Then it gives
- 7:11Speaker 2: my address regarding fiscal policy. The Government is grateful to
- 7:17Speaker 2: you for drawing attention to the issues set out by
- 7:20Speaker 2: mister Walker in his email and supporting documentation. HM Treasury
- 7:27Speaker 2: is always keen to receive feedback from people up and
- 7:30Speaker 2: down the country. I hope this is helpful. If you
- 7:34Speaker 2: have any questions about this reply, please email Public Inquiries
- 7:40Speaker 2: at HM Treasury dot gov dot UK, quoting the reference
- 7:44Speaker 2: number and then he gives a whole garbage of numbers.
- 7:47Speaker 2: So there you are. That is the response to a
- 7:49Speaker 2: twenty eight page, thoroughly detailed an evidence based letter all
- 7:54Speaker 2: about the Bank for International Settlements. That governor going to
- 7:58Speaker 2: meetings there? Does he talk to the Chancellor? Did the
- 8:02Speaker 2: Chancellor Rachel Reeves know about the Bradbury pounds? She worked
- 8:06Speaker 2: at the Bank of England and she went to Oxford
- 8:09Speaker 2: University and she went to LSC London School of Economics.
- 8:14Speaker 2: So I asked her a question. Did she know about
- 8:17Speaker 2: what the treasury did to save the economy in nineteen
- 8:20Speaker 2: fourteen outbreak in the First World War? And at the
- 8:23Speaker 2: end of the day, I said, are you now going
- 8:26Speaker 2: to implement You're going to implement a modern day equivalent
- 8:30Speaker 2: to the Bradbury pound treasury notes. In other words, after
- 8:34Speaker 2: all the treasury basically what treasury notes are as an
- 8:37Speaker 2: extension to the change in our pockets. It's the government
- 8:40Speaker 2: creating money under m nort And are you going to
- 8:44Speaker 2: do that down to fill your twenty two billion alleged
- 8:47Speaker 2: black hole and all the rest of it? Four simple
- 8:50Speaker 2: questions asked no reply. All I got was that, And
- 8:54Speaker 2: I even I have to say Tim Farron was exasperated,
- 8:57Speaker 2: and I'll be writing an open response to Tim how
- 9:02Speaker 2: we proceed further, probably after the budget, once we know
- 9:05Speaker 2: what's in the budget. Right they just fold us in contempt.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Right, justin let's pull this apart a little bit because
- 9:14Speaker 1: that response which you read out, I was laughing to
- 9:19Speaker 1: myself really as you read it, because that is a
- 9:23Speaker 1: pretty classic, wonderfully crafted Bob Off letter. So it's full
- 9:30Speaker 1: of niceties and plassitudes, but the real messages go away,
- 9:35Speaker 1: little boy and don't bother us. And of course we
- 9:39Speaker 1: should pay attention to the fact that it wasn't sent
- 9:42Speaker 1: to you, that was sent back to an who was
- 9:47Speaker 1: asking the question. So I can imagine in the audience
- 9:50Speaker 1: there'll be people who say, yes, well, you know, what
- 9:54Speaker 1: did you expect It's a waste of time, to which
- 9:57Speaker 1: I say, absolutely not, because now what we've got from
- 10:01Speaker 1: the Treasury is a letter where it demonstrates that they
- 10:06Speaker 1: the Treasury, do not want to engage on this subject.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So for the audience, justin you wrote a very long letter,
- 10:16Speaker 1: but within it I think you said to me that
- 10:19Speaker 1: there were four key questions, right, So let's for the
- 10:23Speaker 1: audience very simply, very carefully tell the audience what the
- 10:30Speaker 1: key questions were and why you wanted to ask those questions.
- 10:36Speaker 1: So let's do them one at a time another time.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Well, the first one concerned the Andrew Bailey, the governor
- 10:43Speaker 2: the Bank of England, as with all governors of the
- 10:46Speaker 2: Bank of England, and they disappear to the Bank for
- 10:51Speaker 2: International Settlements every seven to eight weeks where they had
- 10:56Speaker 2: meetings with about eleven or twelve other governor of the
- 11:00Speaker 2: big top banks and other invited guests. Now, there is
- 11:05Speaker 2: a book which I reserve, which I recommend people to read,
- 11:10Speaker 2: and this is The Tower of Basil by Adam Lebour,
- 11:15Speaker 2: and it's entitled it's basically called the Shadowy History of
- 11:19Speaker 2: the Secret Bank that runs the world. And within the
- 11:23Speaker 2: first few pages they state that the governor the Bank
- 11:27Speaker 2: of England goes to Basil in Switzerland and has these
- 11:31Speaker 2: private meetings and he says no minutes are taken. So
- 11:36Speaker 2: you have these meetings of the top twelve central bankers
- 11:39Speaker 2: plus other invited guests, and there are no minutes taken.
- 11:45Speaker 2: So I asked the question to the Chancellor. Does Andrew
- 11:50Speaker 2: Bailey come and see you when he's been to one
- 11:52Speaker 2: of these meetings? Does he tell you what was discussed,
- 11:56Speaker 2: what was decided?
- 11:58Speaker 1: So just let me that one or tease that one
- 12:01Speaker 1: apart a little bit. So the basic question is about
- 12:05Speaker 1: the head of the Bank of England going to have
- 12:09Speaker 1: meetings with the Bank of International Settlements, the Senior as
- 12:15Speaker 1: I understand it anyway, we'll call it the senior World Bank.
- 12:20Speaker 2: The Central Bank, the Central Bank.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Central bank of the central banks. Yeah, so he goes
- 12:26Speaker 1: to have meetings with the Bank of International Settlements and
- 12:33Speaker 1: there are no minutes taken. We don't believe there are
- 12:35Speaker 1: any minutes taken. And so your question to the Chancellor
- 12:41Speaker 1: was does she get briefed when he comes back from
- 12:46Speaker 1: those meetings to say what was discussed and what he
- 12:49Speaker 1: said on behalf of the United Kingdom? Right? And in
- 12:56Speaker 1: the in the response that came back from the Treasury,
- 13:03Speaker 1: from the Treasury, not from the Chancellor, from the Treasury,
- 13:07Speaker 1: they simply ignore that question. Is that correct?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Dontally ignore it, don't ignore it, right, And that we've
- 13:14Speaker 2: come to the second question.
- 13:15Speaker 1: No, wait, wait, just before you get there, because we
- 13:21Speaker 1: were able to report the UK column was able to
- 13:24Speaker 1: report some time ago. I'm going to guess a couple
- 13:26Speaker 1: of years ago that we discovered that the Bank of
- 13:30Speaker 1: International Settlements was setting up a special office in London
- 13:37Speaker 1: in order to progress Bank of International Settlement.
- 13:42Speaker 2: And the Central Bank Ocurrencies projects.
- 13:46Speaker 1: And in the set up documentation which was available to
- 13:51Speaker 1: the public, it clearly said that the Bank of International
- 13:55Speaker 1: Settlements had diplomatic immunity in the documents and in the
- 14:00Speaker 1: movement of documents and individuals connected to the Bank of
- 14:05Speaker 1: International Settlements.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Absolutely correct. When BIS has a termed BIS Bank for
- 14:13Speaker 2: International Settlements. When personnel are moving around and they're carrying
- 14:18Speaker 2: their bags, their dispatch bags, documents and what they are
- 14:21Speaker 2: treated exactly the same way as ambassadors and embassy staff
- 14:26Speaker 2: taking around documents. In other words, no, they're not allowed
- 14:30Speaker 2: to be looked at by customs or anyone like that.
- 14:33Speaker 2: They have total diplomatic community when moving documents and stuff around.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Right, So we're reinforcing this all the time. So the
- 14:43Speaker 1: Bank of International Settlements calmly comes in and out of
- 14:47Speaker 1: the UK to its entire satisfaction. The public in UK
- 14:54Speaker 1: are led to believe that the Bank of England is
- 14:58Speaker 1: looking after our money correct, independent of government, but in
- 15:05Speaker 1: partnership with government. And don't worry, the Bank of England
- 15:10Speaker 1: is doing its very best to make sure we live
- 15:14Speaker 1: happy and prosperous lives.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And please remember that the Bank of England has a
- 15:19Speaker 2: committee that involves the Governor and others, but unelected, unaccountable
- 15:24Speaker 2: individuals who set the country's interest rates. All done by
- 15:30Speaker 2: the Bank of England. And so it's openness and transparency.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Yeah, so we could take a guess. We can assume
- 15:38Speaker 1: that interest rates are going to be a very critical
- 15:42Speaker 1: thing that are going to be discussed with the Bank
- 15:44Speaker 1: of International Settlements due to its immensely powerful position. But
- 15:51Speaker 1: we're also led to believe that even discussions on that
- 15:55Speaker 1: are not necessary, not necessarily shared between the Governor of
- 16:02Speaker 1: the Bank of England and the government through to the Chancellor.
- 16:08Speaker 2: So we want to shine the light. We want to
- 16:10Speaker 2: know what goes on. I mean, does Andrew Bailey go
- 16:14Speaker 2: knocking on the door and say, Chancellor, I've just been
- 16:16Speaker 2: to bustle. I've got a capull debrief for you. Here
- 16:19Speaker 2: we are, this is what we discussed, these decisions we made.
- 16:21Speaker 2: What do you think does that happen or does nothing
- 16:25Speaker 2: at all happen? We don't know, and we should know
- 16:28Speaker 2: because money creation and money supply should be, if you like,
- 16:33Speaker 2: in the hands of the people. It should be unelected,
- 16:37Speaker 2: basically unelected, unaccountable people at the moment are deciding on
- 16:42Speaker 2: how much or how little money the world has to
- 16:44Speaker 2: spend private individuals who like to meet in secret. That
- 16:48Speaker 2: can't be right, not in that it can't be right.
- 16:52Speaker 1: And of course we're also living in a time where
- 16:55Speaker 1: we've only got to look at the headlines across the
- 16:58Speaker 1: whole spectrum of gacy media to see that billions of
- 17:03Speaker 1: pounds are suddenly appearing in order to keep the war
- 17:08Speaker 1: in the Middle East and the war in Ukraine going.
- 17:12Speaker 1: No problem with billions of pounds for arms, ammunition, munitions
- 17:18Speaker 1: for the slaughter in Ukraine and the Middle East. But
- 17:22Speaker 1: we can't manage to scrape up the money for winter
- 17:26Speaker 1: fuel payments for elderly people who are who are short
- 17:32Speaker 1: of money.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, absolutely, priorities, you know, our priorities go look
- 17:38Speaker 2: out of the window. I mean, it is, it's unbelievable
- 17:42Speaker 2: actually when you actually do look at it, our money
- 17:45Speaker 2: creation and money supply has been, as I said, put
- 17:49Speaker 2: into the hands of private, unelected, unaccountable people who like
- 17:52Speaker 2: to meet in complete secrecy. What on earth is that
- 17:56Speaker 2: it's all about?
- 17:57Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's let's move on to question two.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Then what was the second will the question do?
- 18:04Speaker 2: Was around an interview that Professor Richard Werner, that's w
- 18:09Speaker 2: E R N N E R. He's a German economist,
- 18:13Speaker 2: but he lives over in Britain. I think he's university.
- 18:16Speaker 2: He's at the University of Winchester at the moment. And
- 18:19Speaker 2: Professor Richard Werner, who is actually a champion of public banks,
- 18:23Speaker 2: and he's quite sympathetic to what I've been writing. I
- 18:27Speaker 2: don't know if he's written read what I've written, but
- 18:30Speaker 2: he's certainly sympathetic to the principle of the money creation
- 18:37Speaker 2: by the state form the state. And he also came
- 18:40Speaker 2: up with quantitive easing. It's quite a character. But he
- 18:45Speaker 2: was on a Russia Today program and I put the
- 18:47Speaker 2: hyperlink in so it's all there. You can see him
- 18:49Speaker 2: talking about it. And he was on Russia Today. And
- 18:52Speaker 2: it's only a forty five second link, you know, it's
- 18:55Speaker 2: only a forty five to five second speech. But in
- 18:57Speaker 2: it he says to this other chap who is a
- 19:00Speaker 2: City of London commentator and quite embedded in the system,
- 19:05Speaker 2: and he said, you are aware that the City of
- 19:07Speaker 2: London is a country in its own right. It's a
- 19:11Speaker 2: it's not part of the United Kingdom. It's a country.
- 19:14Speaker 2: It's a state in its own right. And we all
- 19:17Speaker 2: know that the past Queen. The Queen was expected on
- 19:21Speaker 2: formal occasions when going into the Square Mile, she had
- 19:25Speaker 2: to touch the sword. That's basically getting permission to go
- 19:29Speaker 2: in to do whatever she was going to do within
- 19:32Speaker 2: the City of London. So technically and legally, the city
- 19:36Speaker 2: of London is classed as a country. So hang on
- 19:41Speaker 2: a moment, we have the Bank of England, which is
- 19:44Speaker 2: supposedly looking after our money creation and money supply and
- 19:49Speaker 2: you know, looking after the British economy, actually positioned in
- 19:54Speaker 2: a foreign country. So I simply asked a question, is
- 19:58Speaker 2: Professor Verner right? And in which case, if he is right,
- 20:03Speaker 2: how does this influence the status of the Bank of
- 20:06Speaker 2: England with HM Treasury. It's quite incredible. I mean, Richard
- 20:11Speaker 2: Werner is clearly he knows what he's talking about, and
- 20:15Speaker 2: the other commentator who he was talking to was scribbling
- 20:19Speaker 2: down notes because he didn't know right.
- 20:21Speaker 1: So this was the key element of question two. Then
- 20:26Speaker 1: was it?
- 20:26Speaker 2: The question two? Is is it true what Professor Richard
- 20:30Speaker 2: Verner said when he said that is the Bank of
- 20:32Speaker 2: England a separate state to the United Kingdom? And if
- 20:36Speaker 2: it is, well, how does this impact upon the Bank
- 20:40Speaker 2: of England which is located within the square mile therefore
- 20:45Speaker 2: in the separate country. If professor is correct, right, and we.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Are deliberately doing this in a very pedantic way, And
- 20:55Speaker 1: the reply that comes back from an anonymous person in
- 20:59Speaker 1: pretty much anonymous department in the Treasury is simply not
- 21:05Speaker 1: to answer this question, which at its heart is historical fact.
- 21:10Speaker 1: A lot of this is not difficult to see and
- 21:12Speaker 1: to establish. But the Treasury didn't want to answer that
- 21:17Speaker 1: second question. It didn't even want to acknowledge that element.
- 21:22Speaker 2: No, yeah, so you know, I mean, I mean, basically
- 21:28Speaker 2: they are bank to rights. I mean the evidence that
- 21:31Speaker 2: I put forward is it comes from very credible people.
- 21:35Speaker 2: And of course was my uncle was a director of
- 21:37Speaker 2: the Bank of England for seventeen years and I got
- 21:41Speaker 2: to meet quite interesting people behind the scenes. And it
- 21:46Speaker 2: was my uncle who told me at at my age,
- 21:50Speaker 2: when I was sixteen, I was going back to school
- 21:53Speaker 2: and you know, I was on the train with him
- 21:56Speaker 2: having breakfast, and he was discussing what was I going
- 21:59Speaker 2: to do for my career, and you know, I told
- 22:02Speaker 2: him and he suddenly said, well, I'm going to give
- 22:04Speaker 2: you two bits of advice to take through life. Never
- 22:07Speaker 2: believe anything you read in the press because we control it.
- 22:10Speaker 2: And never ever believe a politician when they say they
- 22:13Speaker 2: can do something. They can't unless we say they can.
- 22:16Speaker 2: And of course, the tender age of sixteen, going back
- 22:18Speaker 2: to do his o levels it. It went over my
- 22:21Speaker 2: head a little bit, but I did remember thinking, oh,
- 22:24Speaker 2: he's going to a meeting for the bank, you know,
- 22:26Speaker 2: for the Bank of England as a director, and I
- 22:30Speaker 2: knew obviously Pilkinton's class and he was a big man
- 22:33Speaker 2: in the industry, so I just assumed it was something
- 22:37Speaker 2: to do with industry and stuff. So I didn't think.
- 22:39Speaker 2: But I do remember that conversation very clearly. So it
- 22:43Speaker 2: you know, it shows that there are wheels within wheels
- 22:47Speaker 2: and well money again, going back to money creation, money supply,
- 22:52Speaker 2: it's not in the hands of the people.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And it's not in the hands of the politicians either.
- 22:57Speaker 2: I think we can assume, I suppose elected servants, it's
- 23:01Speaker 2: not even there.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go on to question three then in
- 23:06Speaker 1: exactly well, the.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Question was remarkably simple. The current Chancellor, she has been
- 23:16Speaker 2: in her CV, she's been to Oxford, she's done the
- 23:20Speaker 2: London School of Economics, and she worked for a time
- 23:23Speaker 2: at the Bank of England. So Rachel Reeves is well
- 23:27Speaker 2: versed in economics and money creation, money supply, or at
- 23:33Speaker 2: least you know, that's what we're led to believe. So
- 23:36Speaker 2: my question was very very simple. Did she know what
- 23:40Speaker 2: happened on August seventh, nineteen fourteen, And of course that
- 23:44Speaker 2: was the day that the Bradbury pounds came into the
- 23:47Speaker 2: high street banks from the Treasury, saving the country from
- 23:54Speaker 2: financial collapse and the run of the banks. And because
- 23:58Speaker 2: everyone was shown these notes treasury notes, and I actually,
- 24:03Speaker 2: I think I can show your viewers. I don't know
- 24:06Speaker 2: if I did it las time, but I will show
- 24:08Speaker 2: you the note which I picked up from a stamp
- 24:12Speaker 2: shop in New York some time ago. But there we are.
- 24:17Speaker 2: That is a Bradbury pound. That's the third edition. The
- 24:21Speaker 2: first lot that came out as an emergency after three
- 24:24Speaker 2: days was on stamp paper and it was only printed
- 24:29Speaker 2: on one side only. This is the third edition, which
- 24:32Speaker 2: came out at the back end of nineteen fourteen. So
- 24:37Speaker 2: once the people had explained to them because obviously they
- 24:40Speaker 2: were hoping to pick up gold, they were hoping to
- 24:42Speaker 2: pick up half sovereigns and sovereigns for their notes, and
- 24:46Speaker 2: they were told, no, you're going to get instead the
- 24:49Speaker 2: same as our coinage. You're going to get these notes.
- 24:53Speaker 2: And they are totally safe and stable because they are
- 24:56Speaker 2: based on part of the liquidity of our nation. There
- 24:59Speaker 2: would and the wealth and the credit of our nation. Okay, So.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Just so we're we're going to we're going to encourage
- 25:08Speaker 1: our views and listeners to go back to that February
- 25:13Speaker 1: discussion we had on the Bradbury Pound and fraudulent banking.
- 25:17Speaker 1: If you want the detail on the on the Bradbury
- 25:21Speaker 1: and the history factual history around it, go to the
- 25:25Speaker 1: UK column website and just search for the Bradbury Pound
- 25:28Speaker 1: and it will come come up.
- 25:32Speaker 2: So that was the third question you want.
- 25:33Speaker 1: The bit I want to add, of course, is the
- 25:36Speaker 1: fact that what we are talking here is about currency
- 25:40Speaker 1: being created out of the hands of private, unaccountable bankers,
- 25:46Speaker 1: but also effectively money being created without an attached burden
- 25:51Speaker 1: of debt, interest ry and interest rate. So this this
- 25:56Speaker 1: is why the Brawberry Pound happening in the way it
- 26:01Speaker 1: did at the time it did, is such an important
- 26:04Speaker 1: milestone because it highlights the fact that the bankers, these unelected,
- 26:11Speaker 1: unaccountable bankers, are creating money, and of course they're pulling
- 26:15Speaker 1: not only nations, but they're pulling individuals into debt the
- 26:19Speaker 1: whole time. So you ask the question, does Rachel Reeves
- 26:24Speaker 1: know about the Bradbury Pound and the reply from the
- 26:30Speaker 1: anonymous person in the semi anonymous Treasury Department is to
- 26:37Speaker 1: simply ignore the question. Correct, yeah, right, So number four.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Well this is the big one, and this is a
- 26:47Speaker 2: very simple one again, Chancellor, Are you now on the
- 26:52Speaker 2: budget day which is on the thirtieth next next well
- 26:56Speaker 2: it's going Wednesday. Are you now going to do what
- 27:02Speaker 2: David Lloyd George, who has Chance of the Excheque in
- 27:04Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen, are you now going to do that to
- 27:07Speaker 2: fill your your twenty two billion pound hole, et cetera,
- 27:12Speaker 2: et cetera. In other words, are you going to use
- 27:15Speaker 2: the wealth, the labor potential, our creativity of the nation
- 27:20Speaker 2: and as a nation we are valued by the Office
- 27:23Speaker 2: of National Statistics so around about just probably over just
- 27:27Speaker 2: over forty trillion pounds? So are you going to put
- 27:31Speaker 2: a fraction of that into liquidity and use that as
- 27:34Speaker 2: debt free and interest free money to save the nation,
- 27:38Speaker 2: to look after our public services, to look after our
- 27:43Speaker 2: central infrastructure, and to protect our strategic industries. Because we've
- 27:48Speaker 2: seen what's happened to Pulish Deal, We've seen shipbuilding collect
- 27:51Speaker 2: I mean everywhere you look, industry has collapsed. So are
- 27:55Speaker 2: we going to put into liquidity part of our nation's
- 27:58Speaker 2: wealth to underpin in future prosperity, debt free, interest free,
- 28:04Speaker 2: and completely separate from the entire financial system that's controlled
- 28:09Speaker 2: by the likes of the Bank for International Settlements. And
- 28:11Speaker 2: then you've got the im FORECD World Bank et cetera,
- 28:14Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And you've got the goal markets,
- 28:17Speaker 2: the financial market, all controlled by private families and private individuals, unelected, unaccountable.
- 28:24Speaker 2: The whole system is corrupt, totally corrupt. So are we
- 28:28Speaker 2: now going to turn our backs on such a corrupt
- 28:31Speaker 2: system and have sovereign money for our sovereign people, sovereign nation,
- 28:37Speaker 2: debt free, interest free, and we can get on with
- 28:40Speaker 2: our lives, have prosperity, have happiness, and quite simply, if
- 28:46Speaker 2: you like, go to the like other words, find a
- 28:49Speaker 2: solution to all these problems that we have. In fact,
- 28:52Speaker 2: when I was told about the Bradbury Pound, the gentleman
- 28:56Speaker 2: telling me about it off the record said, and you
- 28:59Speaker 2: will have a solution to all of Britain's economic woes.
- 29:03Speaker 2: And that's what it is.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Indeed, the key bit that we've been emphasizing is that
- 29:10Speaker 1: if you understand the history of the Bradbery pound. You
- 29:14Speaker 1: suddenly realize that the idea that private banks have to
- 29:19Speaker 1: be the ones that issue the money with associated debt
- 29:24Speaker 1: is complete and utter nonsense. We don't have to live
- 29:26Speaker 1: in this way where private on accountable banks control all
- 29:33Speaker 1: the money that makes everything happen, and then everybody, including
- 29:38Speaker 1: the nation, drowns in debt. And just to highlight it,
- 29:42Speaker 1: the twenty two billion that you mentioned there, that was
- 29:48Speaker 1: the sum declared by labor. As Keir Starmer came into power,
- 29:55Speaker 1: he was very quick to say that they'd found a
- 29:57Speaker 1: twenty two billion pound coal in those nasty Tories finance finances.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, once again keeping this left right division, I mean,
- 30:10Speaker 2: the globalists always need division, So what better way to
- 30:15Speaker 2: set one side of the house up against the other side,
- 30:18Speaker 2: keep a division going, Divide and rule, divide and rule,
- 30:21Speaker 2: and nobody then bothers to see. We'll hang on a moment.
- 30:25Speaker 2: Why are we all running around like headless chickens when
- 30:28Speaker 2: quite clearly this is going on and it shouldn't be
- 30:30Speaker 2: going on. So that's the point of this letter, And
- 30:34Speaker 2: any one of those four questions can bring the house
- 30:37Speaker 2: cards down. It is a house of cards they've built
- 30:40Speaker 2: for themselves. But only once people wake up to the
- 30:43Speaker 2: realities of central banking and how the whole system works.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Right, So the power of your letter was one that
- 30:54Speaker 1: you took the trouble to put a very comprehensive letter
- 30:57Speaker 1: together with historical fact fact about how the banking system works.
- 31:06Speaker 1: And then in that package of information which I would
- 31:10Speaker 1: presume you put together, apart from giving that information to
- 31:15Speaker 1: the Chancellor and the Treasury, it was also showing that
- 31:20Speaker 1: you verticomas knew your stuff about how the system works.
- 31:26Speaker 2: So I was also quoting a lot of historical figures
- 31:29Speaker 2: that people never heard of, people like Vincent Vickers, who
- 31:32Speaker 2: was a director of the Bank of England join the
- 31:37Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen saw the Bradbury Pound rescue the economy and
- 31:41Speaker 2: then became a champion for sovereign money ever since. He
- 31:44Speaker 2: fell out with the Governor of the Bank of England,
- 31:47Speaker 2: Montague Norman, when he set up the Bank for International Settlements.
- 31:51Speaker 2: So in other words, there are good people. I know,
- 31:53Speaker 2: there are good people inside the City of London who
- 31:56Speaker 2: don't like the system. I mean, I've had private conversations
- 32:00Speaker 2: I don't know who I'm talking to, but they were
- 32:02Speaker 2: introduced to me by David Paycock and KEM Parlerton, two
- 32:06Speaker 2: stalwarts who were money reformers who latched onto me when
- 32:11Speaker 2: I first mentioned the Bradbury and everything else. And that's
- 32:15Speaker 2: when I was suddenly realized that there are good people
- 32:19Speaker 2: on the inside who don't like the status quote, who
- 32:22Speaker 2: want to see it change. So this is why I
- 32:24Speaker 2: think we've got very exciting times ahead of us.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, just to come onto the chance for herself,
- 32:32Speaker 1: Rachel Reeds, she worked at the Bank of England. Can
- 32:38Speaker 1: we should we believe that she was there working and
- 32:44Speaker 1: she actually understood what was going on around her. Do
- 32:48Speaker 1: you think she was that capable or do you think
- 32:51Speaker 1: she was a young lady who was very excited, probably
- 32:56Speaker 1: to be working in an immensely powerful organization.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very interesting question that and I haven't
- 33:03Speaker 2: got the answer. I mean, we know was. I mean
- 33:06Speaker 2: every time I hear two tier now I think of Kiir.
- 33:08Speaker 2: But there is a two tier university system. We got
- 33:11Speaker 2: Rhodes scholars for instance, and allegedly Rhodes scholars are, if
- 33:16Speaker 2: you like, shown behind the scenes, they are allowed to
- 33:19Speaker 2: see behind the mask. I don't know. As the youngest answer,
- 33:23Speaker 2: we just don't know. That's where we start to go
- 33:26Speaker 2: into theory. What I presented in this letter are blatant
- 33:30Speaker 2: historical facts which can't be denied, so you know, but
- 33:34Speaker 2: they've done their best to airbrush this history out, no
- 33:40Speaker 2: doubt about it. If it hadn't if I hadn't discovered
- 33:42Speaker 2: the book by Thomas Johnston, the MP left wing labor
- 33:47Speaker 2: MP in nineteen thirty who wrote the book The Financiers
- 33:50Speaker 2: and the Nation, I wouldn't have found out about the
- 33:52Speaker 2: story of the Bradbury Bound. Yes, so other books have
- 33:55Speaker 2: been written where they just casually mentioned treasury notes without
- 33:59Speaker 2: delving into the realities of what a treasury note really
- 34:02Speaker 2: means and the implications for how the economy. You know.
- 34:06Speaker 2: So it was back in the nineteen thirties at Thomas
- 34:09Speaker 2: Johnston MP, who by the way, became the father of
- 34:12Speaker 2: a Scottish hydroelectric scheme in the Highlands and had a
- 34:16Speaker 2: tremendous legacy. He also looked after Scotland joined the Second
- 34:19Speaker 2: World War and behalf of Churchill's wartime cabinet. And he's
- 34:24Speaker 2: one of those few MPs whose legacy you can be
- 34:27Speaker 2: really proud. He can be really proud of and nobody
- 34:30Speaker 2: seemed to have a bad word to say against him,
- 34:32Speaker 2: so he could talk to if you like, left right,
- 34:34Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He worked to get things done and he
- 34:39Speaker 2: hated corruption, and that's why I wrote this book, The
- 34:42Speaker 2: Financiers and the Nation, which I recommend people. You can
- 34:45Speaker 2: actually read it online.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Okay, now, your MP, what was his reaction to getting
- 34:54Speaker 1: that style of letter about can't confront me?
- 34:58Speaker 2: But he used the word which I I thought was
- 35:00Speaker 2: very telling. He was basically disgusted by the answer that
- 35:04Speaker 2: he received. How you know, basically it was just a
- 35:08Speaker 2: well I said, joking with somebody today. It's almost as
- 35:11Speaker 2: if artificial intelligence wrote the book, wrote the letter. It
- 35:15Speaker 2: was totally without any empathy and treated Tim Farron, you know,
- 35:20Speaker 2: not a dear Tim. I mean, we've seen letters that
- 35:22Speaker 2: come back from ministers and things like that where they
- 35:25Speaker 2: start off by saying dear and then you get the
- 35:27Speaker 2: first name of the the MP and say I thank
- 35:31Speaker 2: you a constituent. It may just be a bland letter,
- 35:34Speaker 2: but it's then signed by whoever it is. But in
- 35:37Speaker 2: this case it's just dear Tim Farron and then signed
- 35:40Speaker 2: by this what I may just find it it's signed
- 35:44Speaker 2: by the Correspondence and Inquiry Unit, HM Treasury.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Is there actually a human signature on the bottom.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Or is it an at all? Just that in print?
- 35:57Speaker 2: In fact, we'll we'll send you well you'll have a
- 36:00Speaker 2: copy of the letter, obviously take out my private details. Yes,
- 36:03Speaker 2: but I said so people can see it.
- 36:06Speaker 1: And they should see it, because of course this is
- 36:09Speaker 1: this letter. It's insulting to you, but it's grossly insulting
- 36:14Speaker 1: to an MP.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Exactly, you know, I mean, I think they I'm honestly
- 36:20Speaker 2: genuinely shocked by it, and I should be writing to Tim.
- 36:24Speaker 2: I mean, Tim is no fan of the Browdberry, yet
- 36:26Speaker 2: he still says he's got problems with it and this,
- 36:28Speaker 2: that and the other. But he's never gone he's never
- 36:31Speaker 2: sat down with me to go through all those problems
- 36:33Speaker 2: he supposedly has. I think basically he's fearful of opening
- 36:38Speaker 2: something that he's not capable of handling.
- 36:41Speaker 1: Well, isn't it interesting that you bring up the word fear,
- 36:44Speaker 1: which I mentioned early on in the little introduction to
- 36:48Speaker 1: to what we're going to discuss. Just make it simple
- 36:52Speaker 1: for me so there's no misunderstanding the letter that he wrote.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Was it to the Tim Barren I'm sorry forwarded for
- 37:01Speaker 1: you was did it go to the Treasury or did
- 37:04Speaker 1: it actually go to Rachel Reeves herself.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't seen the letter he forwarded.
- 37:09Speaker 2: He just said he had forwarded a letter with my
- 37:12Speaker 2: thing to the treasury, so I don't know if it
- 37:14Speaker 2: was directly. He did say to me, don't expect a
- 37:17Speaker 2: reply beside the budget. It will be too busy doing
- 37:20Speaker 2: the budget, So I said, did that I thought, well,
- 37:23Speaker 2: probably I won't. So I don't know if he's actually
- 37:28Speaker 2: sent it to a treasury or to I haven't actually
- 37:30Speaker 2: seen the covering letter.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Right, So this is something to stay on the trail of,
- 37:35Speaker 1: isn't it, Because if it is just that bland letter
- 37:39Speaker 1: has come back from the Treasury, I would have thought
- 37:42Speaker 1: the next step is a robust letter to Rachel Reeves
- 37:48Speaker 1: to ask what this nonsense is and to ask for
- 37:52Speaker 1: you know, a proper response from her, as one MP
- 37:55Speaker 1: to another from Tim Farron too.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Yes, no, I would totally agree, and I'm going approached
- 38:00Speaker 2: him to see what he actually did send to the
- 38:04Speaker 2: Treasury and so we'll take it from there. But I'm
- 38:08Speaker 2: also going to write, once I know what's in the budget,
- 38:12Speaker 2: and what is happening and how people are probably going
- 38:15Speaker 2: to find themselves being taxed more and businesses are going
- 38:20Speaker 2: to be taxed more. I mean, I've talked to two
- 38:23Speaker 2: small businesses a day and they're dreading the budget. They're
- 38:26Speaker 2: just dreading what's going to be in the budget. So
- 38:29Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting. Let's see what they
- 38:32Speaker 2: come up with, and then we'll say, well, hang on,
- 38:35Speaker 2: why didn't you just do what happened in August nineteen fourteen.
- 38:40Speaker 2: You could have done that. It's also the same way
- 38:42Speaker 2: as reduce our coinage in our pockets. Why couldn't you
- 38:45Speaker 2: do that? So there will be, if you like, an
- 38:48Speaker 2: addition to this letter.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Right, but let's stay on this case, justin on this element,
- 38:57Speaker 1: because basically we're going to have a budget where we
- 39:02Speaker 1: are to believe that the Chancellor Rachel Reeves, with all
- 39:06Speaker 1: of a huge mental acumen and intelligence and training, is
- 39:13Speaker 1: going to be acting as an accountant to tell the
- 39:19Speaker 1: UK as a nation state, what is going to happen
- 39:24Speaker 1: in order that our finances stay in an appropriate state
- 39:31Speaker 1: of profit rather than loss. That's what the budget is about,
- 39:38Speaker 1: and what we hear year upon year of course, is
- 39:42Speaker 1: how Ultimately, any problems are going to be solved by
- 39:47Speaker 1: an increase in taxation, where supposedly the state is going
- 39:54Speaker 1: to take more money out of our pockets. And it's
- 39:57Speaker 1: ruthless because it's always bread, isn't it over a range
- 40:01Speaker 1: of areas, So if you're not a drinker, they would
- 40:04Speaker 1: get you on a petrol tax increasing. There's always a
- 40:11Speaker 1: route so that everybody gets caught in the tax snare.
- 40:17Speaker 1: But we've already established in this discussion that in the background,
- 40:23Speaker 1: the banks, who actually have control over the finances we
- 40:28Speaker 1: the public, are not even allowed to know what was
- 40:34Speaker 1: discussed and who discussed it where.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Exactly as I said, the whole system is absolutely rotten
- 40:42Speaker 2: to the core. It has to be replaced, lock stock
- 40:46Speaker 2: and barrel. You can't tinker with a system. What's so interesting,
- 40:50Speaker 2: and I mentioned got to mention it before. All the
- 40:53Speaker 2: schools of economics. You know, you've got the Austrian school,
- 40:56Speaker 2: the Keynesian School, the New Economics school, all these different schools.
- 41:01Speaker 2: They all have different ideas for how an economy should function,
- 41:05Speaker 2: and yet not one of them addresses that simple point,
- 41:08Speaker 2: or the simple point that the entire financial system is
- 41:11Speaker 2: in private unelected unaccountable hands meeting in secrets. Now not
- 41:16Speaker 2: one of them is. So the whole discipline of economics
- 41:19Speaker 2: is flawed as it stands at the moment.
- 41:22Speaker 1: This is very interesting, justin because some time ago I
- 41:26Speaker 1: was given I think partly as a joke, but somebody
- 41:30Speaker 1: gave me a little book. I'm afraid I can't remember
- 41:33Speaker 1: the name of it, but it was written by a
- 41:35Speaker 1: man in America, and essentially, i'll call it The Idiot's
- 41:39Speaker 1: Guide to Economics. And it was a clever little book.
- 41:43Speaker 1: I think it had been written I'm going to say
- 41:46Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties or something like that. And I
- 41:51Speaker 1: did read the book I've been given it. I did
- 41:53Speaker 1: read the book. But you're absolutely right. What was what
- 41:58Speaker 1: was not mentioned? It wasn't that it was me and
- 42:00Speaker 1: not discussed. What was not even mentioned was the banks
- 42:07Speaker 1: and who the banks were and how it was that
- 42:10Speaker 1: these unelected, unaccountable bankers were controlling the money that allowed
- 42:17Speaker 1: everything to operate, or if they wanted to not operate.
- 42:22Speaker 1: And if we think of the situation in twenty twenty
- 42:26Speaker 1: four where we are being told that, oh dear, yes,
- 42:30Speaker 1: something else has collapsed in UK. As you've mentioned steel,
- 42:34Speaker 1: we can't build ships, the roads are full of potholes,
- 42:37Speaker 1: the NHS is collapsing.
- 42:39Speaker 2: What carbon credits to look forward to destroying the planets?
- 42:43Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So there's all this disaster and we don't
- 42:50Speaker 1: really have any money to spend. But on the other hand,
- 42:55Speaker 1: and I'm ramming this one home, when it comes to
- 43:00Speaker 1: keeping the war in Ukraine going, we've got billions, and
- 43:06Speaker 1: Gaza and Gaza with the Israelis as well, we've got millions.
- 43:11Speaker 1: We've got billions. And we get a simple clue for
- 43:15Speaker 1: this situation because if you read you can read the
- 43:21Speaker 1: Financial Times, you can read the key newspapers. What we
- 43:26Speaker 1: are not seeing is the bankers saying, hang on a minute,
- 43:31Speaker 1: we haven't got any money for war.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 43:35Speaker 1: The bankers are not saying we're shorter money, you can't
- 43:38Speaker 1: have money for the for the next fifty million shells.
- 43:43Speaker 1: We're seeing the exact opposite. We're seeing not only the
- 43:48Speaker 1: money for the weapons and the ammunition to slaughter people.
- 43:52Speaker 1: I'll just stick in Ukraine on this one, because certain
- 43:55Speaker 1: aspects of this more obvious. We're not seeing them say no, no,
- 44:00Speaker 1: you can't have any more shells because we haven't got
- 44:02Speaker 1: the money. What we're actually seeing. It's the exact opposite.
- 44:06Speaker 1: We're not only seeing the money for those shells. We're
- 44:10Speaker 1: in the background seeing that there's got to be more investment.
- 44:14Speaker 1: That means money into the military industrial complex because it's
- 44:19Speaker 1: full and woefully short of producing the number of shells
- 44:23Speaker 1: that are necessary to keep this war really going. We
- 44:28Speaker 1: do not hear banks saying no, no, no, there's no money.
- 44:34Speaker 1: The better way of doing this is to go for peace.
- 44:37Speaker 1: What we see the banks doing is the opposite. And
- 44:40Speaker 1: presumably I'm going to be a little bit old and
- 44:43Speaker 1: cynical here, this is because the bank's no fault. Well,
- 44:47Speaker 1: that they can make obscene profits out of war.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Well, let me just reiterate the First World War, all right,
- 44:56Speaker 2: The Bradbury Pound saved the day. But then they wound
- 45:00Speaker 2: down the Bradbury Pound because the City of London and
- 45:03Speaker 2: the Bank of England went running around to David Lloyd
- 45:05Speaker 2: George the chance and said we want to go back
- 45:07Speaker 2: now to buying guilts and bonds from the British government
- 45:11Speaker 2: at three three and a half percent interest whatever. So
- 45:14Speaker 2: because of that, the national debt in nineteen fourteen at
- 45:18Speaker 2: the outbreak of the First World War was around four
- 45:22Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million pounds okay when the when the
- 45:28Speaker 2: war ended, sorry five hundred my figures now, but when
- 45:31Speaker 2: the war ended it was five six hundred million or
- 45:35Speaker 2: whatever it was. It had gone up a huge amount,
- 45:37Speaker 2: absolutely astronomical, and of course that was the national debt
- 45:41Speaker 2: that was spiraling out of control. When it sort of
- 45:43Speaker 2: had you had the depression everything else, and then you
- 45:46Speaker 2: had the Second World War where the debt again went
- 45:49Speaker 2: shooting up. And of course the national debt today is
- 45:52Speaker 2: what's it over three trillion pounds now it's three point
- 45:55Speaker 2: one trillion or something like that. And the interest on
- 45:59Speaker 2: the on the monthly repayments we're having to do to
- 46:04Speaker 2: service this national debt. I think three months of repayment
- 46:08Speaker 2: by the treasury is the equivalent of now the twenty
- 46:11Speaker 2: two million pound black hole that apparently has to be filled.
- 46:15Speaker 2: And then we have a national debt. For why did
- 46:18Speaker 2: we have a national debt when we didn't have to
- 46:20Speaker 2: borrow money? We could have used our own credit to
- 46:23Speaker 2: run the economy.
- 46:25Speaker 1: Right, And this is this is money that has been
- 46:30Speaker 1: created out of nothing by these unaccountable bankers.
- 46:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember those figures for the First War
- 46:38Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty million was a national debt in
- 46:41Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen, and then in nineteen nineteen a treaty seven thousand,
- 46:47Speaker 2: five hundred million, so it had rocketed up. As I said,
- 46:52Speaker 2: they like to make a killing out of the killing.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Yes, that that is the correct expression. Now let's let's
- 46:58Speaker 1: ramp it up a bit, because if people haven't heard
- 47:02Speaker 1: of the Bank of International Settlements before, and you can
- 47:05Speaker 1: go online and have a look at their website and
- 47:09Speaker 1: delve into it. There's a certain amount of information you'll
- 47:12Speaker 1: get out of it. But what you're not going to
- 47:15Speaker 1: get out of their website is the history of the
- 47:19Speaker 1: Bank of International Settlement. And I want to say to
- 47:23Speaker 1: the audience that I've had an increasing history. Sorry, I've
- 47:30Speaker 1: had an increasing interest in good analysis of the Second
- 47:37Speaker 1: World War, and in particular the war on the Eastern Front,
- 47:42Speaker 1: so that where the Russians, of course were facing huge
- 47:49Speaker 1: German army, well.
- 47:50Speaker 2: They took the front of the whole indeed.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Yeah, And of course this is a story which has
- 47:55Speaker 1: largely been untold in the West. And I've found at
- 48:00Speaker 1: this stage in my life that I got interested in
- 48:03Speaker 1: learning more about this. And on YouTube there are some
- 48:07Speaker 1: truly excellent documentaries, original footage, and very good analysis of
- 48:14Speaker 1: the war and how it progressed. There's also some very
- 48:19Speaker 1: very emotional YouTube channels where they narrate the diaries of
- 48:26Speaker 1: largely German soldiers and officers who fought on the Russian Front,
- 48:31Speaker 1: and many of those if there's if the person survive
- 48:36Speaker 1: long enough in the diary, it would sort of go
- 48:39Speaker 1: from the euphoria of the excitement of getting on the
- 48:42Speaker 1: train to go and fight fight those nasty Russians to
- 48:47Speaker 1: the harsh reality of starling Grad and post styling Grad
- 48:53Speaker 1: when the armies were in a German army was in
- 48:56Speaker 1: a really terrible defeat, and of course the people would
- 49:00Speaker 1: talking about the huge casualties, casualties on a scale which
- 49:04Speaker 1: the West can't understand because Russian casualties huge German casualties
- 49:12Speaker 1: estimated at about six million. And this is the reality
- 49:19Speaker 1: of what that wall on the Western Front is now.
- 49:22Speaker 1: In looking at those video clips, I also came across
- 49:25Speaker 1: a gentleman called Mark Felton who would do these really
- 49:30Speaker 1: excellent little sometimes short documentaries about could be about a battle,
- 49:36Speaker 1: it could be about equipment, could be about people. And
- 49:39Speaker 1: I was very surprised a couple of weeks ago to
- 49:41Speaker 1: find out that he'd made a documentary about the Bank
- 49:46Speaker 1: of International Settlements, And I just need to move my
- 49:50Speaker 1: screen here a bit to have.
- 49:53Speaker 2: I've been following Mark Felton for the last four or
- 49:55Speaker 2: five years, yes, and I've always found his videos be
- 49:59Speaker 2: very informative. I've got a lot of interest in the
- 50:01Speaker 2: Second World War and the First World War, and I
- 50:05Speaker 2: particularly like the fact he highlights parts of the Second
- 50:09Speaker 2: World War I didn't even know happened. So yes, you know,
- 50:12Speaker 2: you never stopped learning. And that's that's what Mark Felton does.
- 50:16Speaker 2: He brings into the picture stuff which has ever been
- 50:20Speaker 2: airbrushed or basically wasn't considered important so it's never been covered. Yes,
- 50:25Speaker 2: I find his programs are his documentaries are very very good.
- 50:29Speaker 1: Indeed, so the little documentary, now, can I read a
- 50:33Speaker 1: date here? Well, it was two weeks ago.
- 50:37Speaker 2: It was about two weeks ago. Yeah, you've seen it.
- 50:40Speaker 2: I've seen it and we both touched base on it.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Yes, so over half a million views now. But it
- 50:46Speaker 1: was called Himmler's Fourth reich Ss Assets Saved in Global Conspiracy,
- 50:55Speaker 1: and the basic story is that Himmler, well before the
- 51:02Speaker 1: end of the war, realized that Germany was not going
- 51:05Speaker 1: to win, in particular fighting on two fronts between the
- 51:10Speaker 1: Russians and the Western Allies, and he started to work
- 51:14Speaker 1: on a plan to get German wealth and ill gotten
- 51:19Speaker 1: gains assets that have been stolen from the countries they'd invaded,
- 51:23Speaker 1: to get those out of Germany squirreled away in German
- 51:29Speaker 1: controlled companies worldwide in order to build a power base
- 51:35Speaker 1: host collapse of the Reich. That is the historical story.
- 51:40Speaker 1: It is a factual story, and Mark Felton does a
- 51:46Speaker 1: really I think amazing analysis of this. Of course he's
- 51:51Speaker 1: talking about Himmler, but he's also talking about other people.
- 51:54Speaker 1: But he highlights how a number of companies Krup, Ryan, Metal,
- 52:00Speaker 1: Semens and Bosch are four that come to the forefront
- 52:05Speaker 1: of what he's talking about. But also we have the
- 52:08Speaker 1: creation of the Bank of International Settlements to help this process.
- 52:15Speaker 1: And if people are thinking to themselves as we're talking, oh,
- 52:19Speaker 1: this can't be true, well it's absolutely true. And the
- 52:27Speaker 1: worrying aspect is reinforced by the fact that post war,
- 52:31Speaker 1: immediately post war, there were senior political and intelligence figures
- 52:38Speaker 1: in both the United States and the UK who were
- 52:44Speaker 1: deeply concerned to learn that this huge Nazi German wealth
- 52:52Speaker 1: had been funneled into German companies and there was a bank,
- 52:58Speaker 1: the Bank of International Settlements, informed to help them do
- 53:02Speaker 1: what they were doing. This this is obscene justin.
- 53:07Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean you've got to remember that
- 53:10Speaker 2: during the Second World War. And as I said, going
- 53:12Speaker 2: back to this book, which does cover it in detail,
- 53:16Speaker 2: I do recommend it. I'm halfway through and I'm enjoying.
- 53:18Speaker 2: I didn't. I never thought I'd read a book on
- 53:20Speaker 2: banking and enjoy it, or at least exposing what we're
- 53:24Speaker 2: all vicious of and what we're now realizing did happen.
- 53:27Speaker 2: I mean, squirreling way gold in Czechoslovakia and gold pinched
- 53:32Speaker 2: by the Nazis. I mean, everywhere you look, it's just skulduggery.
- 53:35Speaker 2: But you had you had Americans and Germans, French and
- 53:41Speaker 2: British banking people meeting corresponding joined the Second World War.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Despite the war being fought, there was a contact between
- 53:50Speaker 2: them all in neutral Swittsman. So this is all going on.
- 53:55Speaker 2: It is quite staggering. And as I said, the full
- 54:01Speaker 2: history of the Bank for International Settlements and the entire
- 54:04Speaker 2: central banking system needs to be understood by everyone, and
- 54:08Speaker 2: then you get a better idea of what our politics
- 54:11Speaker 2: are today and.
- 54:13Speaker 1: How and where people within that system, where they're loyalty
- 54:19Speaker 1: lies and does not lie.
- 54:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, as I said, the status of the
- 54:25Speaker 2: City of London being a separate country. It's absolutely mind blowing,
- 54:30Speaker 2: jaw dropping when you actually start to see what is
- 54:34Speaker 2: being done supposedly in our name, but not in our name.
- 54:37Speaker 2: It's been done on behalf of others, the globalist whatever
- 54:41Speaker 2: you want to call them, a tiny number of people.
- 54:43Speaker 2: My late uncle said that ten thousand people round the world,
- 54:49Speaker 2: and I've talked to another bank who said eight and
- 54:51Speaker 2: a half thousand people run the world. Well, there's eight
- 54:54Speaker 2: billion of us, and we're all running around like headless chickens.
- 54:58Speaker 2: For every one of the wretched banking types, there's nearly
- 55:02Speaker 2: a million of us. As I said, it's and one
- 55:07Speaker 2: of the things I am now saying loud and clear,
- 55:09Speaker 2: it is our collective ignorance about banking and money creation
- 55:14Speaker 2: and money supply. That is their protection because if we
- 55:18Speaker 2: don't understand it, they can get away with it.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Indeed, but justin let's let's let's be fair to the
- 55:24Speaker 1: banking system, and in particular let's be fair to people
- 55:28Speaker 1: working in the banking system that what we are talking
- 55:32Speaker 1: about is really the power and control at the highest
- 55:38Speaker 1: level of banking. What we are not talking about, well
- 55:42Speaker 1: we're not certainly not suggesting, is that people who work
- 55:46Speaker 1: in the local high street bank, which is which is
- 55:50Speaker 1: doing a really good job. It's facilitate.
- 55:53Speaker 2: I can one hundred percent agree with you, because when
- 55:55Speaker 2: I first came across the Braverery Pan, and then I
- 55:58Speaker 2: came across the Bank Internet Settlements, I've only had great
- 56:02Speaker 2: enjoyment going into banks meeting them those of the days
- 56:05Speaker 2: when we did a bank. By the way, there were
- 56:07Speaker 2: a few high street banks ten years ago, and the
- 56:10Speaker 2: first question I'd always asked the teller in a very
- 56:13Speaker 2: friendly way, to tell you, have you ever heard the
- 56:15Speaker 2: Bank for International Settlements. I didn't find one who had
- 56:19Speaker 2: ever heard of it? Mind you, Having said that, I've
- 56:21Speaker 2: talked to something like twenty MP's face to face since
- 56:25Speaker 2: twenty twelve, and after wishing them a good morning or
- 56:29Speaker 2: good afternoon and being pleasant, the first question I said,
- 56:32Speaker 2: can I ask you, can you tell me what you
- 56:34Speaker 2: know about the Bank for International settlements. Not one of
- 56:37Speaker 2: them could tell me anything at all.
- 56:39Speaker 1: Yeah, not one now before it goes out of my head.
- 56:43Speaker 1: In the Mark Felton video, at one point he is
- 56:48Speaker 1: talking about this concern post war, immediately post war concern
- 56:55Speaker 1: by well, some of it were politicians, some of the military,
- 56:59Speaker 1: people of intelligence, people concerned about what this bank of
- 57:04Speaker 1: international settlements was. And I can imagine for many of them,
- 57:11Speaker 1: perhaps who'd actually fought in the Second World wore deep,
- 57:16Speaker 1: deep unease that the Nazi war machine was working under
- 57:23Speaker 1: the surface to build a post war power base. I
- 57:26Speaker 1: can imagine that would be very creepy for people. So
- 57:30Speaker 1: when individuals did raise the concerns, one of the people
- 57:36Speaker 1: who spoke up to say, oh, no, no, there's not
- 57:39Speaker 1: a problem was none other than our King. Am I correct,
- 57:44Speaker 1: I'm just.
- 57:44Speaker 2: Going to say that, Yeah, King George and sixth himself. Yeah,
- 57:50Speaker 2: which is not like King Charles the third and his
- 57:55Speaker 2: beliefs in climate change and other things. Yeah, it's oh dear,
- 58:00Speaker 2: oh dear, oh dear. I am a monarchist. I'm a
- 58:04Speaker 2: constitutional monarchist, but I do have real problems with the
- 58:08Speaker 2: House of windsor or should I say, the House of
- 58:12Speaker 2: what is it. Well, I can't remember the name now,
- 58:14Speaker 2: So what's the house of the sacksburg bergen Goberg. I'm
- 58:18Speaker 2: ebe one of my senior moments. Yes, sax coburgen Gopher.
- 58:23Speaker 2: It does bother me. It does worry me because there
- 58:26Speaker 2: would be and of course there are many researchers who
- 58:28Speaker 2: believe there are very close links between the House of
- 58:31Speaker 2: Windsor and the further Iich and Adolf Hitler and you know,
- 58:37Speaker 2: but I mean there's all sorts of I still think
- 58:39Speaker 2: there's a few stones to be unturned. And you know,
- 58:42Speaker 2: we turned over to see what's underneath, and let's.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Just put a little clue in for the audience. So
- 58:50Speaker 1: I would imagine a few people getting interested by what
- 58:53Speaker 1: we're saying here. But the the key meeting that helped
- 58:58Speaker 1: form the Bank of International Settles and get this lot
- 59:01Speaker 1: going was called the Red House Meeting. Actually the Red
- 59:05Speaker 1: House was there.
- 59:06Speaker 2: Well, yes, the Red House Meeting. Yeah. The Bank for
- 59:08Speaker 2: International Settlements was set up in nineteen thirty and the gentleman,
- 59:14Speaker 2: the two gentlemen who were responsible for it were Montague Norman,
- 59:18Speaker 2: who was the Governor of the Bank of England at
- 59:20Speaker 2: the time and longer serving government we've ever had. And
- 59:24Speaker 2: Helmer Schlacht, who was well, he became Hitler's future finance minister.
- 59:31Speaker 2: He was an enthusiastic Nazi to start with, and then
- 59:35Speaker 2: he managed to escape with Nuremberg War trials. I think
- 59:38Speaker 2: he did go to prison, but when he came out
- 59:42Speaker 2: he moticed memoirs and sketched over things. But yes, in fact,
- 59:48Speaker 2: this is a bit what I'm reading about in the
- 59:50Speaker 2: book at the moment is that is the actual build
- 59:53Speaker 2: up to the Second World War and how his you know,
- 59:58Speaker 2: loyalty to the Nazi party was accepted totally by the BIS.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: Didn't they didn't, but they weren't bothered by it at all.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're in this world at the moment where
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: you've touched on this, and I think we need to
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: reinforce it. We've got King Charles at the moment who
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: stands up publicly alongside the World Economic Forum with that
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: wonderful gentleman mister Schwab boasting that he King Charles is
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: alongside global figures who were controlling significant sums. I was
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: going to I was trying to put a percentage on it,
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: but at one of them, he was boasting that he
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: was there with a group of global financiers who controlled
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: one third of the global wealth. And they weren't there
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: to discuss how people were going to be fed and
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: now they were going to have clean water and they
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: were going to have a home and a bed to
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: sleep on. No, they were there to discuss their plans
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: for the net zero global economy. And if you listen
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: to what these people say, what Schwab says about the
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: sustainable development goals, I'm not putting picking up any human
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: empathy and love. I picking up something which is amazingly
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: cold and callous by the very people who control these
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: huge amounts of money. So life is not as as
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: we believed, and it's not as many people do believe today.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: The king should not be involved with what's going on
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: as the Prince of Wale. To us debatable whether he
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: should be there, but as our constitutional common law king,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: he is there to uphold the law of the land,
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: the common law. He should not be delving into any
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: of his stuff. And really it's I don't want to
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: sound over the top, but he is committing treason by
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: what he's doing. I mean, that is the bottom line.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Because he's involving himself with people who are making decisions
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: behind closed doors. They are decisions based on extremely bad sites,
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: and they are decisions which are involved men's rea Malissa Fullfot.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: These people are not doing it for the best interests
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: of the human race. They are doing it for their
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: best interests, and our king is directly involved with them.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to use that
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: tea word. It is treason.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: What he's doing, in your opinion, is treason.
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: In my opinion, it is treason, and I would be
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: interested to see how people could challenge me on that.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Yes, And also a key thing is that in the
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: globalist agender, where where the banking system is not only
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: just in bed with the global corporations, you know, there's
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: a love affair taking place. This is a very close
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: and intimate relationship between the international bankers and the biggest corporations.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: But they are not constructing plans for the benefit of
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: any nation state. What they're actually talking about is a
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: post nation state world. And you can pick this up
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: in a lot of the material.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: Or industrial revolution or global technocracy. Yes, what do you
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: like it? Basically, it means that we no longer can
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: make decisions for ourselves, our sovereignty will have completely gone.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Indeed, and we have such wonderful figures as Mark Carne
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: or Mark Carne as Mike Robinson from the column likes
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: to call him, and he was happy to be on
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: public records saying that any business that did not want
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: to get on board with their Green agenda, their Green Agenda,
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: would be put out of business, will be forced out
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: of business. So he was prepared to just stand and
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: threaten anybody who, however big their business was, whatever they
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: were doing in business, he was prepared to say, if
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: you do not adhere to our future plans regarding the
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Green Agenda, net zero, sustainable development goals all combined, then
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: the banks would put you out of business. I mean
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: this should have been all over the UK press, shouldn't it.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: And look at British Steel, isn't it. Well you know
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: they're closing down this plant and they're now going for electri.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: I mean again, what's happened to British Steel. It's the
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Green Agenda that is putting them out of business and
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: they we're going to have to import our steel. It's crazy.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Yes, And the other figure I think we should mention
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: in with regard to huge, obscene sums of money. Is
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: our old friend Justin Welby, Well, certainly not God in
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: my opinion. Justin head of the Church of England, but
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: on record photographs of sipping champagne alongside Christine Legarde and
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: the bankers, but boasting that he was he was assisting
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: the assembling of seventeen trillion in order to unleash a
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: green global agenda. So this is the man heading up
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: the Church of England which sends around begging letters because
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: they can't fix the local church roof and.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: Everything is upside down, and the people at the top
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: do not represent the people. They represent this tiny number
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: of oligarchs whatever you want to call them, psychopaths. I mean,
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: there are plenty of terms I could use, but these
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: people are basically not human. Actually, if we really wanted
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: to get down to it, they are anti human. These
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: these individuals who are creating this ghastly future for us
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: are anti human. That's the only way you can describe them.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: They are anti human.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: And the other thing is, and I do this deliberately,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: Bible's not your cup of tea, But the Biblical warning
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: is the love of money is the root of all evil.
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: Well, it's the only time Jesus lost it, wasn't it
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: in the temple? And with the money changes the money lenders. Yes,
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: and I think we should at least from that.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, so I think that's probably a very good
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: place to end on. Justin. We will get up as
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: much information as we can in the show notes so
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: that people have got links to the key things that
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: we've been talking about, and if we'll have a copy
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: of your letter suitably redacted for people to see, and
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: I'd like to say it, and we'll have other material,
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: including the link through to Mark Felton's excellent production. But
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: I think I like to say to you, justin, stay
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: on the case, because I would love to see what
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: response we can get out of Rachel Reeves herself when
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: she's gently pinned to the wall with a letter that
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: she can't we go out of To see what this
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: lady has to say for herself.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: I think it's going to be very interesting. I just
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: have one pleaver if when the truth does come out
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: and we all realize just how rotten everything is, I
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: just have one plea to people. I do not want
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: to be the Chance of the Exchequer, so please find somebody.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: Else, Well, this is this is true, but the whole
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: system is rotten. Not everybody in it is rotten. A
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: lot of people fearful.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: So there are good people. No, this is one thing
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: I do want to emphasize. There are a lot of
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: good people within the system Who've got their mortgages, they've
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: got their bills to pay, they've got their children at school. Look,
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: there are a lot of decent people caught up in this,
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: and we just simply want them to get up and
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: walk away because the truth is coming out now. The
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: genie is out of the bottom. And and once it does,
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: everything will be exponential and and and the people will
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: take over. And as I said, money creation and money
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: supply should be in the hands of the people. We've
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: got to have transparency and countability and wisdom and empathy.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of integrity and honesty, yeah, key,
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: and very important human passion.
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: Let's let's use compassion, you know, compassion. Let's help people
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: who genuinely need helping. I mean, you know, we just
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: want to be human about money creation and money supply
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: should be a human task and the best of a
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: human empathy, you know, all all all the values that
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: we hold dear should come out in that. So yeah,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm excited, actually, Bran, I think things are
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: starting to happen and I wouldn't like to be on
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: the other side. It's good versus evil, and there's a
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: razor blade between the two. You can't sit on the
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: fence any longer. Now, there's no way you can sit
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: on the fence. It's good versus evil. There's a razor
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: blade between and people have got to make up their
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: mind which side there.
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: And everybody, everybody and anybody doing something, no matter how small,
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: this makes a difference. And so when people are feeling
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: a little bit lost and oh my goodness, it's hopeless. No,
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: it's absolutely not hopeless. But what we need is millions
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: of people.
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: And there is another tactic too. Don't just think about
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: your MPs. Think about your local counselors. Local councils are
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: strapped for cash. They're having to give up on essential
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: services for vulnerable people in their communities. Go and see
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: the counselors. Make them aware of the content of this video,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: make them aware about what's going on, Make them aware
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: about the challenge being put to Rachel Reeves and right
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: to the chairman of the local party that the MP
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: belongs to as well. Make them aware of what's going on.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: You know, this is not just a case of talking
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: to the MP. It's talking to the infrastructure around d
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: the supporting network around the MP as well, because they're
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: disordinary people too. And as I say, once they wake
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: up to what's going on, do you think they're going
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: to remain quite about it. Nobody wants to be a
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: counselor to cut back on essential services where they say,
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: really frightened and vulnerable people losing those services. They don't
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: want to enjoy that. They don't want to do that.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: So you know, don't just approach the MPs. Approach local
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: counselors and the makeup of a local party that controls
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: the situation as well within your local patch. As I said,
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: there are a lot of people can do, but most
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: important of all, arm yourselves with the facts. Get to
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: know things. And I always say to people, I'm not
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: an economist, and if you know, if I can understand it,
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: anyone can understand it. Do not be frightened, because that's
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: what they want you to be. When it comes to
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: money creation and money supply. People go, oh, I can't
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: be involved with that. Oh no, listen, I stuck at
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: it because of my uncle who my uncle was in
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: the contacts. But I understood it, and I stuck at it.
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: As I said, if I can do it, and I've
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: not been to university, I haven't got degrees or anything
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: like that. But if I can understand it, anyone can
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: understand it.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant. Justin. Thank you very much for speaking with
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: me afternoon evening as it is now. It's been really
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: great and we'll do our best to get this out
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: far and wide, and of course the audience can help
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: us enormously by helping share the content and spread the
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: word and of course do your own research, get stuck
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: in on the banking system, the Bank of International Settlements.
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: We'll leave it there, justin.
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Brian, Thank you very much.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Thank you