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What to make of the Buffalo Bills secondary in 2026 and beyond | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: just P-R-O-A-N-T. In this edition of Disguise Coverage, we will
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  Speaker 1: be talking about the Buffalo Bills secondary. C.J. Garner-Johnson was
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  Speaker 1: released today by the Buffalo Bills, and that move comes
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  Speaker 1: on the heels of the secondary playing relatively and largely
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  Speaker 1: well against the Baltimore Ravens. Yes, Before anybody jumps in, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is to be taken with a grain of salt. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they were playing a third-string quarterback. Yes, they had injuries
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  Speaker 1: to their offense. Yes to all those things, right? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are variables, grain of salt, all those things, all
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  Speaker 1: those things. But the secondary played well. They looked calm.
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  Speaker 1: They looked poised. C.J. Garner-Johnson suspended for that game after
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  Speaker 1: the spitting incident. The secondary has been I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the crux of a lot of conversations throughout the start
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  Speaker 1: of this year and heading into the buy and then
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  Speaker 1: coming out of the buy with the poor play, the miscommunication,
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  Speaker 1: the questions, the trade market, people want Buddha Baker, me,
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  Speaker 1: people want a money hooker. I would also take that.
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  Speaker 1: Some people want to combine them. I would also take that. Um, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's a, you know, the safety position group. I keep
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  Speaker 1: making the joke is that, uh, football gods curse the
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  Speaker 1: bills after years of consistency and strong play between, um, the,
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  Speaker 1: between Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, they cursed the football gods,
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  Speaker 1: cursed the bills, which is kind of regular play, uh,
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  Speaker 1: at the safety position going forward. Um, I am not
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  Speaker 1: doing film in this episode. I did a full film
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  Speaker 1: breakdown on a bunch of things from the bills defense
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  Speaker 1: that I put out yesterday. So if you want some
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  Speaker 1: film stuff on the bills defense, um, check out that episode, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that I put out yesterday. Also probably maybe be doing,
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  Speaker 1: or that shouldn't say probably, I'm also looking to do
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  Speaker 1: some film stuff towards the back end of the week. Um, But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not doing– I've been doing film episodes pretty regularly on
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  Speaker 1: the show, minus the one-off last week for Ravens Week
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  Speaker 1: and having a guest in that. But I'm either looking
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  Speaker 1: to put out stuff the day after Bill's games or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, regularly in the Tuesday live slot. So no
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  Speaker 1: film in this episode. More discussion-based and schematics-focused as always,
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  Speaker 1: but no film in this episode. If you want some
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  Speaker 1: good tape on the Bills defense feeling more like a
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  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard defense, looking more like a Jim Leonard defense
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  Speaker 1: against the Ravens, Um, you can check that episode out
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  Speaker 1: on disguise coverage, uh, that I dropped yesterday. I forget
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  Speaker 1: what it's called. It's called, uh, I'm terrible with like
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  Speaker 1: remembering what, what did I title it? The Buffalo bills
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  Speaker 1: defense attacked the Ravens offense that dropped yesterday. So if
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  Speaker 1: you want some tape, go take a, go take a
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  Speaker 1: peek at that. But yeah, the, the, the bills secondary
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  Speaker 1: went through changes in the off season, uh, You know,
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  Speaker 1: he had a new starting corner opposite of Christian Benford.
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  Speaker 1: No matter who he thought it was, whether it was
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  Speaker 1: Max Harrison, Davison Igbenosin, it was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: new starting corner there. Sorry, I just put my hand
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  Speaker 1: with the camera back in focus. It was going to
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  Speaker 1: be one of those two. Dee Alford came in. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you saying, you know, book books, games that are
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  Speaker 1: already watching. Well, thank you very much for watching. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed. Dee Alford comes in. Taron Johnson's out.
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  Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson comes in. Looks to be the running
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  Speaker 1: mate with Cole Bishop. Geno Stone comes in as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then just... all the conversation pieces that have happened
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  Speaker 1: this off season and to start the season. And so
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  Speaker 1: with the news of Chauncey Gardner Johnson today, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of reinforced the direction I already wanted to go in.
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  Speaker 1: I really just wanted to do an episode focusing on
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  Speaker 1: to Corey couch and not because I'm a Miami hurricanes fan.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen so much of him going back to
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  Speaker 1: his college days, but the secondary, I just think was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and is a large part of the conversation
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  Speaker 1: with this team. It seems like, a position that the
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  Speaker 1: Bills could address at the trade deadline, you could make
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  Speaker 1: the case that releasing Chauncey Gardner-Johnson reinforces that need and
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  Speaker 1: or desire to trade for safety at the trade deadline
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  Speaker 1: and maybe even potentially telegraphs a trade for safety at
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  Speaker 1: the deadline. We can talk about that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in this episode, but really, as the episode description states,
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk in this episode about the
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  Speaker 1: Bills' secondary and What's the best combination of players for 2026?
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  Speaker 1: Who's a long-term piece? What does Jim Leonard need now
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  Speaker 1: in the short term and in the future and all
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  Speaker 1: of that going forward? I'm going to switch the banners.
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  Speaker 1: We start to move into that focus on this episode.
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  Speaker 1: As always, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, philosophies, ideologies, maxims, anything
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  Speaker 1: and everything you folks got. If you are joining me
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  Speaker 1: As always, Super Chats get priority because I respect the
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  Speaker 1: monetary donation. And the color distracts me from my notes
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  Speaker 1: and brings me back to the chat and the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: And P says, probably need cap room. That would be ideal.
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  Speaker 1: But there's always ways to circumnavigate some things. Granted, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the ways to circumnavigate that stuff is
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  Speaker 1: kind of what has been at the crux of some
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  Speaker 1: of the bills cap issues. You know, you use those
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  Speaker 1: void years or, you know, you convert money to signing
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  Speaker 1: bonus and you spread it out and then it ends
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  Speaker 1: up being somebody, you know, keep around and you're on
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  Speaker 1: the hook for dead cap. Um, so there have been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kick the can down the road type moves
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  Speaker 1: that the bills are still kind of paying for. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the second deal for Daquan Jones, the original
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  Speaker 1: Larry Ogan, Joby deal. Um, Matt Milano, I think is
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  Speaker 1: still on the books for this year as well. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a cap room would definitely help. Um, but there
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  Speaker 1: are ways to circumnavigate that for this year. Now, again,
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  Speaker 1: you might have to pay the toll come 2027 or
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  Speaker 1: 2028 or 2029, but there are ways to kind of
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  Speaker 1: get around some of the things. First thing I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, let's just start right in the safety
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  Speaker 1: room with the departure of C.J. Garner-Johnson. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to make a trade. I've said this since the offseason.
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  Speaker 1: I personally want Buda Baker. I'm a little hesitant because
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  Speaker 1: of his age and the style that he plays is
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  Speaker 1: so physical, is so violent. Age and some of the frame,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stuff that comes along with him. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how, you know, there is some trepidation in me
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how his game would age. But with
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  Speaker 1: the chess piece that he is and what he offers
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  Speaker 1: against the run, coming forward, in coverage, the violence, the leadership,
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  Speaker 1: just so much of what he can do. I would
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  Speaker 1: love that. Now I think the Buddha Baker deal is
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  Speaker 1: less likely because of the money that he has owed
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  Speaker 1: and the cap situation for the bills. And given how
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop is being used in the bills, dime looks, um,
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  Speaker 1: and what we saw against the Ravens, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if Buddha necessarily makes more sense. If you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a straight fit of like rumored safeties to the bills
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  Speaker 1: or ones, I'll just go with the names that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fans have been talking about. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: think Cam Bynum or Imani Hooker makes much more sense
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  Speaker 1: for the Bills. I think skewing towards someone who is
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  Speaker 1: more coverage-based. Cam Bynum can do a lot of cool
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  Speaker 1: man coverage stuff, which is nice. That goes back to
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  Speaker 1: his time in Minnesota. Hooker is just a good coverage guy,
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  Speaker 1: good range, good eyes. I think both of those guys
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  Speaker 1: are more likely and make much more sense than Buda Baker.
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  Speaker 1: I would take Buda Baker, and I love him. He's
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  Speaker 1: been one of my favorite players in the league for
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  Speaker 1: a while, really, ever since he came out of Washington.
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of this is tying into the fits
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  Speaker 1: at safety. Now, what's also interesting about this is it
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  Speaker 1: ties into the long-term picture at safety, right? So even
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  Speaker 1: if Chauncey Gardner Johnson worked out, he was on a
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  Speaker 1: one-year deal. You were probably going to have to pick,
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  Speaker 1: you know, address safety next year, uh, unless you ended
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  Speaker 1: up re-upping with Chauncey or unless Jalen Kilgore is the
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  Speaker 1: guy or unless the answer's in the room, Hamlin stone, whoever. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but even those guys, you know, you have to kind
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  Speaker 1: of ink them long-term. Um, Me personally, I also think
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  Speaker 1: this year is a, like a make or break year
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  Speaker 1: for Cole Bishop. If he doesn't show consistency, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's the continuing to stay healthy, which has been a
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  Speaker 1: huge consistency part for him. The best ability is availability, yada, yada,
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  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But he's looked so lost
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  Speaker 1: at times this year in coverage. And Jim Leonard's talked
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  Speaker 1: about it. Like he's trying to do too much pre-snap and, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of, you know, too much for him, um,
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  Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, it's kind of gumming up the works,
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  Speaker 1: but he, I still think Cole Bishop, I still think
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop is more traits than he is football player,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily the worst thing. Doesn't mean he won't
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  Speaker 1: be a good player or can't be a good player
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  Speaker 1: now in the future, next week, you know, this week,
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  Speaker 1: you know, next month, anything like that. Um, But I
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  Speaker 1: think right now you could make the case that the
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  Speaker 1: Bills could use two new starting safeties in the offseason
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  Speaker 1: next year, depending on what happens to Cole Bishop. And
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  Speaker 1: if everything stays pat, if they stay with the status quo,
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  Speaker 1: if they go the rest of the year and the
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  Speaker 1: safety room is just from a three-man, the top three,
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  Speaker 1: if it's Bishop, Hamlin, and Stone, you have to get
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  Speaker 1: a starter in the offseason to then pair with, in theory,
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop. But if Cole Bishop continues to ebb and
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  Speaker 1: flow and had this inconsistent up and down roller coaster
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  Speaker 1: type of play where he looks just lost at times
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  Speaker 1: with no feel for routes and poor spatial awareness. I
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  Speaker 1: think you can make the case that the bills could
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  Speaker 1: need two new starting safeties next year. So if that's part,
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  Speaker 1: potentially like a thought, you know, a move for someone
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  Speaker 1: like Baker, if you want to play devil's advocate could
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  Speaker 1: kind of wait because Buddha Baker can do all the
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  Speaker 1: safety stuff, but he is more of a monster man
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  Speaker 1: kind of, especially for me, what I view Cole Bishop
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  Speaker 1: best as I've said this for so many years, I
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  Speaker 1: view him as a player that is best when he's
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  Speaker 1: in and around the line of scrimmage in and around
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  Speaker 1: the box. So with down safety, you know, a box
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  Speaker 1: safety apex player, more of a big nickel, honestly, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that we saw him doing against the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens where he's in and around the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 1: He's manned up on tight ends. Every once in a while,
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  Speaker 1: he's manned up on a wide receiver, manned up on
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  Speaker 1: some running backs, He's getting pulled into the box at
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  Speaker 1: the second level, and he's blitzing from an off-ball linebacker position.
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  Speaker 1: He gets blitzed and gets that sack early in the
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  Speaker 1: second quarter, that strip sack that turns into a turnover.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's how you want to use Cole Bishop.
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  Speaker 1: He made some progression further away from the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 1: just like a traditional deep safety, either in single high
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  Speaker 1: looks in the post or in two deep looks. But
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen him as like, oh, yeah, like a
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, like single high middle of the field safety. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, like one of your split field safeties in
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  Speaker 1: quarters or cover two or cover six or anything like that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: can he do that? Sure. Is it fun when you
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  Speaker 1: get into big nickel with three safeties? And who are
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  Speaker 1: the guys that are dropping? Who's the guy that's the apex? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of fun. But I think Cole Bishop
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  Speaker 1: skews more towards that role. I think Buda also does
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  Speaker 1: a lot of really great stuff in that role. Arizona
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  Speaker 1: has done three safety stuff for several years. They've been
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  Speaker 1: very creative. And they'll do like three high safety stuff pre-snap,
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  Speaker 1: and then they'll play kind of like that Tampa 2 inverter,
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  Speaker 1: that Tampa 2 robber. And Buda Baker will be that
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  Speaker 1: middle pole runner, that Tampa player, a la, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks, Brian Urlacher. But instead of, you know, being
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  Speaker 1: an off-ball linebacker spot and running the pole, you know,
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  Speaker 1: down to up, he'll play the poll top down. And again,
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  Speaker 1: Buddha can do coverage stuff, but I think Buddha is
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  Speaker 1: more of a monster man than he is a coverage safety.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Cole Bishop is much more of a
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  Speaker 1: monster man than he is, you know, kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a rangy playmaking ball hawking type of safety. So if I,
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  Speaker 1: so Buddha Baker for me, that's just one I've liked
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  Speaker 1: for years. I posted before the season started, like, you know, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: come trade deadline time. If the Cardinals are out of it,
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  Speaker 1: which it probably would be, I think a playoff-pushing team
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  Speaker 1: should trade for Buda Baker. And Buda Baker's always been
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  Speaker 1: an Arizona guy. I don't know if he wants out,
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  Speaker 1: wants to get a taste of the playoffs and see
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  Speaker 1: what he can do, but I don't know if the
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  Speaker 1: fit is ideal. I think you're looking for more of
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  Speaker 1: a range-based, coverage-based safety, which means Imani Hooker plays more
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  Speaker 1: towards that. If you want to keep doing cover zero
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  Speaker 1: stuff and man coverage stuff, I think Cam Bynum makes
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  Speaker 1: a lot of sense for that. I think Bynum makes
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  Speaker 1: sense kind of no matter what, because he's got a
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  Speaker 1: really fun skill set and a versatile skill set that
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  Speaker 1: you can do so much with. But I think both
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  Speaker 1: Bynum and Hooker make more sense from a coverage standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: make more sense. They make more sense from a fit
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  Speaker 1: standpoint because of their coverage first skill set. Not that
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  Speaker 1: they can't tackle, not that they can't come forward, but
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  Speaker 1: Buda is much more of a monster man type of guy,
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  Speaker 1: similar to Cole Bishop. And while that would be sick
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  Speaker 1: to also have two of those dudes, um, I think
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  Speaker 1: it makes more sense to go with more of the
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  Speaker 1: range based safety. Um, but again, if that, that point
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  Speaker 1: could be moot, if you need two new safeties next year.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's like, Oh, well, I'd rather know that
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  Speaker 1: Buddha Baker is the cornerstone of the safety room next year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you kind of want to play devil's advocate. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but the bill has been working in a ton of
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  Speaker 1: dime this year. They have been one of the league
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  Speaker 1: leaders in dime on, um, the season. I'm pulling up
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  Speaker 1: my notes on that now. Um, we saw a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dime in the game or, you know, we saw
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  Speaker 1: multiple reps of dime in the game against the Ravens. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, again, you're getting in dime, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: those 60 B's on the field as we get the, ah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. The bills are third in dime rate this
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  Speaker 1: year at 18.4%. Um, and when they're going into dime,
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing three safeties on the field. And when you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing three safeties on the field, you know, this past
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  Speaker 1: week against the Ravens, it was Gino and Hamlin deep. And,
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop was, you know, essentially a down safety apex
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  Speaker 1: type of player that goes back to what it was
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  Speaker 1: during training camp when they were going dime and training camp,
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  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, same thing, down safety apex type of player.
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  Speaker 1: And it was Chauncey and Gino stone who were back there.
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  Speaker 1: And then it was Chauncey and DeMar Hamlin was there
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  Speaker 1: kind of working some things, but anytime they went dime
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  Speaker 1: and brought another safety on the field, Cole Bishop was
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  Speaker 1: that down safety. Um, and again, I think that plays
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  Speaker 1: more towards his skillset, um, And I felt that way
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  Speaker 1: for years. I still feel that way. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: more traits than he is football player. So let's keep
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  Speaker 1: his role simple. Hey, man, go man up against this
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  Speaker 1: tight end, man up against this running back. Play with
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  Speaker 1: your leverage. Play with your technique. Play your keys. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's blitz you. Let's have you shoot this gap. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have you blitz the open side B gap on this play.
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  Speaker 1: Let's rush you through this other B gap with another linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Try and create a two-on-one against a running back. Even
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  Speaker 1: the first third down of the game, I posted this
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  Speaker 1: play earlier. Cole Bishop was lined up on the center,
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  Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. And then he kind of
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  Speaker 1: like false rushes to get the running back to commit.
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  Speaker 1: And then he loops around Chubb and Oliver who are
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  Speaker 1: slanting and Cole Bishop becomes like the contain pressure or
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  Speaker 1: contain rush kind of guy. So again, all of that,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the role they want for Cole Bishop.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what unlocking Cole Bishop looks like. So
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: even if things stay as they are, right, let's not, Say, okay,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the bills are going to trade for this guy.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: The safety room is going to change. Say the safety
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: room stays as is. Jamar Hamlin, Geno Stone, Cole Bishop.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to get those dime looks. Cole
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Bishop is going to be that down safety. He's going
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to be that apex player. You know, you're going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have a nickel to one side, whether it's the offer
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: or my boy to Corey couch, and you're going to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: have Cole Bishop is that apex player to that other side.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And again, as you start to get comfortable with, you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: can do some cool stuff, especially with Bishop's athleticism. You
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: can show him as an apex player, like a slot,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, corner type look. And then you can have
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: him spin and drop as a deep half, deep half player.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: He can even run and drop from, or drop to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: like the post and play middle of field type stuff.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You can start to get creative and start to get
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: schematically diverse. If, if people are feeling comfortable and creative.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And so I expect that to be the rotation going forward.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: If you trade for a safety, let's just pretend they
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: trade for a money hooker, then you just sub out
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Stone or Hamlin, whichever one, probably Stone, although he played
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: well and had some nice splash plays against the Ravens.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Say you take him out, then it's hooker and stone deep.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Bishop is that guy who's going to stay down in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and around the box. Apex player, big nickel slot. Whatever
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: verbiage helps you envision what I'm saying, that's what I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be. And so even if they
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: don't trade for anyone, that's your starting safeties, I think,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: are going to be Cole Bishop and Jamar Hamlin. Then
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: when they go dime, which they like to on third
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: downs a bunch, they'll bring in Geno Stone. Cole Bishop
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: will walk down. And then you'll get Hamlin and Stone
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: on the back end. Jalen Kilgore. I saw some comments
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: in the chat around Jalen Kilgore. Jalen Kilgore, I think,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is kind of similar to Bishop in the sense of
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: more traits than football player. Talked about that in his
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: tape in the offseason before he was drafted as a
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Bill and then once he became a Bill. I talked
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: about it a bunch in camp. Even when he was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: making plays during camp, especially some of the deep ones,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: he was getting coverage as, well, Jalen Kilgore, two pass
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: breakups today, like really great plays downfield. And almost like
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: kind of wasn't, not even kind of, it wasn't. You know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he was getting beat over the top. but then Shane
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Buchel or Kyle Allen just didn't have the arm to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: hit the guys deep. And so the ball would hang up,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the receivers would have to stop, and kill gore because
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: he's really athletic and fast when he was able to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: have some recovery speed to make a play on the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: ball essentially what you saw happen against the raiders for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: that touchdown deep to trey tucker that was happening not
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: not i'm not saying this like as a naked wearer
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to pour cold water on him that was happening to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: him in camp all three days that i was there
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but despite the fact that maybe he isn't the sexiest quarterback,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: there's a difference between Kirk Cousins at quarterback and Kirk
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Cousins arm strength. And it is Kyle Allen and Shane Buchel.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So Trey Tucker took off. Kirk Cousins got that thing
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: out in front of Tucker through a beautiful ball and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Kilgore got beat over the top in quarters. That was
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff that happened to him in camp.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Now that's not the worst thing in the world. Jalen Kilgore,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: even though he's a safety was really, well, how have
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I been talking about Cole Bishop in this episode? That
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was more, Kilgore at South Carolina. Kilgore was more nickel
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: apex type of player. He was a big nickel monster
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: man type of dude. He gets drafted by the bills.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: They want to have him be more of a true safety. Essentially.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: It's funny. Like how Nick M and worry is used.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily to that degree, but like M and worry
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is essentially a weak side linebacker for the Seahawks. But
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Kilgore was a box player, a nickel player, a slot player. Um,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: he was a starter obviously, but when I say nickel,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was in the slot. Like he was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a big, he was the bills, Taryn Johnson, things that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Taryn Johnson was doing. That's what Jalen Kilgore was doing
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: just in a bigger, faster, more athletic version. Um, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: wish he played more physical with the size that he had,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, whatever he's athletic and big, which is fun.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The bills take him. They want to put him as
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: more of a traditional or a true safety. You're going
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to need time on task to kind of get him
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: up to speed. It is a one. It's a different game.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: at the nfl level because of the quality of opponent
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you're playing the speed at which opponents play the routes
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that guy the teams get to the concepts they use
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks their arms their eyes how they'll look you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: off how they'll bait you the throws that they can
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: hit again you know the difference between buchel and kyle
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: allen and camp versus kirk cousins in that raiders game
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: right and that's even worse in college right guys won't
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: necessarily make you pay um I think it's the game
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: against Clemson. He tries to jump something and gets completely
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: beat over the top in the low red zone. Ball
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: hangs up in the air. He recovers and makes a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: great play on the ball. And it's like, whoa, what
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a play by Kilgore. And it's like, not really. He
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: got burned horribly. It just didn't bite him. It will
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: bite him in the NFL. And it did in that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Raiders game. Again, not the worst thing in the world.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I said it before the season started. I'm going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: keep saying the same message. I don't think this is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a year where you're going to see much from Jalen Kilgore.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The only way you see something from Jalen Kilgore is,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean this as a negative against him
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: as if all things fall apart at the safety position
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: where you have a multitude of injuries, guys are going
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: down and it's just like, Oh, we got, we got
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to throw him in there. Like, I mean, kind of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: like the Raiders game, Chauncey gets ejected and you're like, Oh,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and then Kilgore goes in there for your dime stuff.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm not expecting a lot from Kilgore this year.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I think he needs time on task, see the field
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: from that safety position, learn the game from that vantage point,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: get comfortable feel for routes and, feeling route distributions, reading
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: route distributions, reading quarterbacks, understanding your angles. I will say
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I liked what I saw in the preseason and even
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a play against the Raiders too, where his sense and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: feel and communication, especially as like the backside, like post
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: safety or that trick safety, when he'll turn, he hinges,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: he almost had an interception against the Raiders when he
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: got in there on this. Like there's, I think it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a dig coming from the front side, but he reads
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: it and he sits and he hinges and he jumps
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that thing. He should have picked it off. I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: he's an exciting player. I just think he's more tools
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and traits than he is, you know, a football player
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: right now, especially from the deep, deep safety standpoint, he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: got to learn that game. And I think that's why,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you know, you go with Hamlin and you go with
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Gino stone. I know the bills played a third string
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback and all the conversation pieces that come with that. Right.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But Hamlin stone are both high floor players from, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: awareness and acknowledgement standpoint. You know, Geno Stone has his
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: issues with tackling. He's not the most athletic guy, but
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: when he was piling up all those interceptions with the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Ravens several years ago that got him that free agent deal,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: he essentially was a right player, you know, right place
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: at the right time type of player. And it wasn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: by luck. It wasn't by happenstance. He's good at feeling good. routes.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: He's good at reading route distributions. He's good with his
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: spatial awareness. He's just not the biggest. He's not the fastest.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: He's not the quickest. And he's had some really horrible
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: tackling the past couple of years, but he knows where
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to be from a coverage standpoint. And we saw that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: several times in that game. He's a high floor type
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of player. Doesn't mean, you know, he's a solid starter
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and a sound starter. You should put them him, him
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in there, but you take stone and you pair them
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with DeMar Hamlin. Both of those dudes are be responsible,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: be in your spot type of guys. I've said it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: for years with Hamlin. He's kind of the perfect Sean
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: McDermott guy. That's why he stayed around so long. He
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: was one of those guys where he's not making the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: splash play. He's not going to, you know, jump this
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: route and read this and make a great pick. He's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a high floor type of player. He knows where he's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: supposed to be, how he's supposed to be there. And
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that's what he's going to do. And that's what the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Bills needed in the secondary. They had so much disconnect
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: between the second level and the third level. guys not
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: knowing where to go, guys not knowing what to check to.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Hamlin and Geno both looked very comfortable on tape in
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that defense. I mean, Hamlin's calling stuff out pre-snap. Everybody's good.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Hamlin's calling stuff out post-snap. The routes are developing and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in progress, and he's telling Davis and Ibnosun, no, no, no,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: this is my guy. You need to go over here
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: while the play is happening, in the middle of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: play while the route distribution is developing to then get
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Ibnosun into play. I know Hamlin isn't sexy. I know
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: so many people have wanted him out for years. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: don't think he should be a regular starter on a team.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Geno Stone, which is why, again, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: think they need to trade for a safety, a starting safety,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a legitimate starter. But you saw a good baseline in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the secondary and from the safety position. with Stone and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Hamlin because they knew their checks. They knew their assignments.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: They knew how to relay communication, hand out communication, start stuff,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you know, be a cog in the wheel, everything. They
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: stabilized the secondary. They definitely helped. And yes, again, third
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: string quarterback, there were some opportunities there and the quarterback
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of them and the game planning. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: get it. All of it. I understand that doesn't take
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: away from the route, how them reading the route distributions
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and making the play in their assignment. Yes. It, it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it plays in with, you know, what the quarterback sees
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and how we manipulate some guys and throws the quarterbacks
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: can make. Right. So it definitely plays a role. I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't, but it doesn't negate the positives
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that you saw. And this bill's defense communication. I posted
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: several clips of it. I talked about in the episode
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I put out yesterday, man, you just saw calm, poised, relaxed,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: agreed upon communication across all the levels. And Hamlin and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Stone were a significant part of that. I think they
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: raised the floor. I think the ceiling with those guys
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is limited, but you're just looking for consistency on the defense.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You're looking for reliability. You're just looking to raise the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: floor of the defense. I think Hamlin and Stone do that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I just think you can also get another safety that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: raises the floor and also raises your ceiling while you're
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: at it. Um, but kudos to Hamlin stone for coming in,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: stabilizing things, especially from a deep perspective. Um, you know, again,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: stone should have had an interception. He had a gimme.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It led to Davis hitting, but no sin getting a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: gift that fell right into his lap. Um, but each
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of them made some sound plays in coverage. Um, we
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: know what each of their weaknesses are. You don't really
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: want either of them manning up on dudes. We saw
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Hamlin man up on Bateman. Uh, one point Bateman got
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: them kind of turned him around. Um, but he's kind of, you're,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you're living with those guys. Neither of them are plus athletes.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Neither of these guys are going to, are dudes that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: are going to man up somebody, even like tight ends
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and running backs, let alone wide receivers. Um, but they're smart.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: They're responsible. They can get you in the right position.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: They can get themselves in the right position. And that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: in and of itself is kind of like a low
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: tier force multiplier. And that's better than the gaps and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the struggles that they've had previously. It takes the mental
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: load off of Cole Bishop, take some of it off
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard, um, And then also plays into the Chauncey
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson aspect where, yes, you're playing a third string quarterback,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: but the defense looks so sound in his absence. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: knowing the distraction he can be and or is coupled
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: with the spitting stuff, it just made sense to jettison him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And so I am firmly in the let's trade for
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a safety camp. But if they don't, you know, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: think your starters are Cole Bishop and DeMar Hamlin. And
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: then when they go dime, it'll be Hamlin and Stone Deep.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: either in two safety looks, or two safety looks, in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: split field safety looks, or even single high, middle field
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: close stuff, Hamlin or Stone are going to be the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: post safety. Cole Bishop is going to be that down
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: safety more often than not. Yeah, that's the safety conversation.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I want to grab, Charles says, I feel like we
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of athletes that can play around the box, Bishop, Kilgore, Hancock,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and nobody that's great in the high post. I think
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that is a fair comment. Again, it goes back to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Hyde and Poirier. Both of them could do everything. Yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Hyde skewed more towards free safety and Poirier skewed more
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: towards strong safety or box safety. but both of those
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: dudes could play in and around the box, in the slot,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: single high, split field, cover two stuff, quarters family stuff,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: anything that you wanted. They could do that. They could
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: man up on guys. They could play anywhere you needed
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: them to do, anything you needed them to do. They
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: were so interchangeable and so versatile in their skill sets.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and now I feel like the Bills have more saminess
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in the safety room and have opted for more traits
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and versatility. But yes, I don't think they have that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think they have the ball hawk in the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: safety room. I don't think they have the rangy playmaker.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think they have that guy that, yep, that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: dude's going to be our post-safety. Look at the range.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Look how, you know, the angles he takes to the ball.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: They don't have that center fielder in the safety room.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think, again, if they're going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: make a move at safety, it is for someone more like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Amani hooker is someone more like campaign. I'm you're looking
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: for more of that deep coverage based type of player. Um,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and have them be completely siloed. Cause you still need
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to come forward and fit the run, but if you're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: going to play a ton of single high, anyway, Cole
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Bishops are down safety. You got numbers in the box.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You need somebody who can play the post. You need
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: somebody who can read the game from depth and make
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: plays from depth. Um, and I think that speaks more
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to hooker and Bynum. Um, and plus Bynum can do
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a bunch of man coverage stuff too, which I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: is really fun. Um, but yeah, I, I would agree.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in that role or in that comment. Rice says Kilgore
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is a day three rookie. Folks need to be patient.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Quinn expecting him to come in and be a starter
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: right away. I think that's fair, but it's hard when
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you have all the beat reporters and their mother all
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: telling you in training camp, how amazing this guy looked
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and how, Oh my God, look at this play. Oh
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: my God, look at this play. And then it's like, Oh,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: he should start. And it's like, Hmm. Maybe that was
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a little exaggerated. I mean, That happens every offseason. Last year,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: everybody thought that Josh Palmer was going to be a
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: true wide receiver one, even though he'd never shown that ever.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: But hey, to each their own. I want to grab
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this comment from Charles, too. Charles says, swing big and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: trade a one for Winfield Jr. I would love that,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: but he's just not healthy enough consistently. He just misses time.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I've liked him for so long. I mean, there's a
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: lot of dudes on that Buccaneers defense that I like.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'd trade for Jacob Parrish in a heartbeat, too. But Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Winfield I just think isn't healthy enough. He keeps getting
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: banged up, which is super unfortunate because he's so dynamic.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: He's such a good player. But yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I like this comment here. It says, also, I know
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: this is for the secondary, but if the move is
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Zach Vaughn and that's it, I'm fine with it. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: would love that. Give me some true linebacker versatility. Give
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: me somebody who can walk down as the end man
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage, who can... Fit the run,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: play downhill, play some coverage stuff, his own man, some
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: match stuff. Also has a ton of familiarity with Jim
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Leonard's defense. Yeah, I would take Zach Vaughn in a heartbeat.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I would take Zach Vaughn in a heartbeat. I like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this comment too from Amp716 who says, Cole Bishop can
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: probably be a good spy. I think that's a fair point.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Good comment here from Josh who says, what sucks is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the narrative that the defensive performance means less because of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: opposing QBs. We technically won't get a true test until
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: week 12 based on the schedule. Yeah, you got Minnesota
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and then I forget the order. It's either Jets Miami
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: or Miami Jets. But yeah, got it. But build the confidence.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Work your way up. Let's get the kinks out. Let's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: continue to solidify ourselves and then get ready for, again,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: not an order, but the Chiefs and the Patriots and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the Packers and the Bears and then hopefully a playoff
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: run that goes deep into February when I think the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl is. I think middle of February is when
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it is. Um, but yeah, Charles's Caitlin Bullock would be nice. Um,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: TVB 1822 says they should trade him to us. Um, I,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he's just such a poor tackler. I know he's been
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: better with Texans and I know a lot of his
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: struggles at USC were because of USC, um, and their
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: defense and their defensive woes. But, um, he, he is
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: your prototypical center field safety. Um, His tackling is just
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: so hit or miss, no pun intended. But I mean,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I would take Kalen Bullock over Hamlin and Stone, for sure.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But his tackling is always going to bother me. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: place a lot of value on safeties that can tackle
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: from depth and fit the run from depth. And because
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he does not, it stresses me the hell out. John
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Roberts says, who do you prefer at safety if we trade?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: In my heart, Buda Baker. Um, in my head, I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: still going to go with Cam Bynum. Um, because I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like him more in man coverage stuff and blitzing snares.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I think Cam Bynum has more Jack of all trades
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: versatility to him from a safety position. Somebody who I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: can play in man coverage. I can play single high stuff.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I can play two high stuff. I can blitz him. Um,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I just remember him. So, I mean, he's made, he's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: been good for the Colts too, but I remember so
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: much of what he was doing with the Vikings. Um,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And that stays in my head. And I want more
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: front foot play. So I would say Cam Bynum won.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I do like Hooker as well. I was watching some
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Hooker tape last night. That sounds like a funny sentence. And,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know, again, he's got range. He can make plays
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: on the ball too. I would probably say Cam Bynum
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is who I prefer. But my heart says Buda Baker.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I just don't think it necessarily makes a lot of sense.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Coco monk says, would a pairing like Cole and Bynum
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: be a tell, would that diminish the value of doing this?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily. Cause Bynum can play down to, and again,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Bishop can play deep, but you're, you're essentially already a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: single high team, right? They've been predominantly a cover three team.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: They've worked in more cover one. They want to, Jim
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Leonard wants to be a single high team. He wants
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to play cover three and cover one, you know, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: some match coverage stuff within that. And then he'll work
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: in some too high stuff. Um, But no, I don't
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: think it's necessarily a tell because even if everybody knows
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Bynum is going to be in the post and Bishop
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: is going to be down in the box, that's still
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: kind of where they're living in terms of this world now,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: in terms of where they want to be. But that, again,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that doesn't preclude you from getting into too high looks
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: or using that against opponents who think like, oh, well,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop's down in the box. He's going to be
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a box safety. That's where he's going to be. and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you spin him back to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the post or you spin him back and you just
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: run a too high coverage type of deal. Just from
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the numbers this year, 2026, Cole Bishop, as I wait
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: for them to load, 251 snaps in the box, 76
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: snaps in the slot. 131 as like a quote unquote
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: deep safety. So essentially 327, you know, monster man type snaps.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to call them. Apex player type
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: snaps between the box and the slot. Again, 251 in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the box, 76 in the slot. And then up versus
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: 131 from a free safety standpoint, like, or a deep
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: safety standpoint. So more than double. And that free safety,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that deep safety aspect includes both single high and two
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: high stuff. So more than half of his snaps, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: easily have been as more of a down safety. So
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: it's already, it's already there. Like getting more of a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: range-based safety, like Cam Bynum, for instance, isn't necessarily hindering
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: anything or siloing you or giving more of a tell
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: than what you're already giving. I don't think the ratio
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: would change much. You just get a better safety than
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you already have. um, to pair with Bishop. And it's
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: also a dude who can play man coverage. You can
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: do more of that cover zero stuff that they were
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: doing against the Ravens, which I really, really, really like. Um,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I've talked about on social for years. I think I've
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: even talked about on the show, like that glitch blitz
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: where you're playing cover zero and you drop two interior
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: defensive linemen out, you know, you show pressure across the board,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: drop two guys out into the seams or into the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: low hole playing eyes on the QB, um, moving with
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: him or feeling for routes and looking for routes, trying
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to drop into certain spots in the hook curls. You
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: can do a multitude of things with them. Um, you
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: can set a drop in the interior defensive lineman. You
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: can drop the edges like the bills did later. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: think buying it would be great in that. Cause he's
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a good man coverage safety. Adrian says what's going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: happen to D all for that brings me to my,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: my next point. Um, I like the offer. Yeah, I,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: he's fine. I, I don't mean to say that disparagingly,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: but he's fine. Corey Couch had himself a day against
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. Just good spatial awareness, reading route distributions, good
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: leverage in man coverage, physical hand usage. This is a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: guy who, as you know, or if you can't tell
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: by the jersey that I'm wearing, I am a Miami
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Hurricanes fan. I have, sometimes begrudgingly, watched every single Miami
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: hurricanes game for as long as I can remember. Um,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and then I've watched a bunch of tape on Miami
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: as well as, you know, in doing college, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: evaluations and building draft boards and all that. Um, so
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of to Corey couch. It was
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: awesome to see him, you know, play at the level
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that he did against the Ravens. I feel like the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: conversation between him and Alford, right. Takori Couch is more
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: in the mold of a Taron Johnson. He's more of
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a nickel that is a physical force than he is
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a coverage player. Dee Alford is more of a coverage
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: player nickel. Dee Alford is more of a traditional nickel,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: like what a nickel was when nickel was a true
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: sub package. He's coming in there to be a coverage player.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: This isn't necessarily somebody who, is going to fit the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: run and take on a pulling guard and mash a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: tight end, or even somebody you want to blitz a ton.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: D Alford is a nickel corners, nickel type of nickel, right?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: He is a coverage first guy. Doesn't mean he can't
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: be physical. It doesn't mean he's soft. Doesn't mean, you know, he's,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: he's frail or anything like that, but he is more
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: coverage than he is downhill to Corey couch is more
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: downhill than he is coverage. Um, you know, he, he
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: played a bunch of man at Miami, uh, But the athleticism,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have the quickest feet. He doesn't
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: have a ton of athleticism. This isn't some dude who's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: juiced up and is like, wow, look how smooth of
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a mover he is. Look how explosive he is. Look
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: at the size, the length, the frame. It's really none
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of that. But he battles, he grinds. This phrase is
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: overused too, too, too, too much now. But Takori Couch
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: is a dog. He wants to get his hands on you. Like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he wants to reroute you. He wants to jam you. receivers,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and tight ends. He wants to attach to them and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: ride them, you know, as he carries them and delivers
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: them to another coverage player. He has a good feel
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: for space. He has a good feel for leverage. He's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a good tackler. He's a good blitzer. You can play
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: him in zone. You can play him in man. You
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: saw a lot of successful reps from him in a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: multitude of coverage responsibilities against the Ravens. I think what
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: was really encouraging was the routes where he was against
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers. And some of them, you know, were cover one,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: so he knew where his help was. Um, but there
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was a cover zero rep in the low red zone
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and he turns and opens and he runs with Zay
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and Zay flowers can fly, man. One of the fastest
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: dudes in football and to Corey stays with him. He
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: stayed with Zay on some overs on some deep overs
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: on some drags where he's like him. Just even being
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: in the picture is a win, but he's staying close
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: and he's playing with leverage and he's doing it in man.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: He's spacing zone. He's spacing routes in zone. He's matching
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and playing match coverage stuff. And it was just a
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: really sound game from him. Wasn't the sexiest, right? I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: think like the biggest play he makes is where he
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: makes that tackle. I think on Mark Andrews where they
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: spit it out to Andrews in the flat and he
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: closes down. He's a seam flat player on that play.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: He closes down, form tackle, chest on knee, wraps up.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Andrews drops him sideline. I think it was a second
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and three play. He stops him for essentially no gain
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: or a loss, and it's a third and three, right?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, wow, he had these pass breakups.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: He had this interception. He had this sack. And see,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: this is a funny juxtaposition. I didn't even think about
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it until now, and I feel stupid saying that. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: talked earlier in the safety room, right? Cole Bishop is
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: more traits than football player. Jalen Kilgore is more traits
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: than football player. Ja'Cory Couch is more football player than traits.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: He's just a football player. A little bit of safety versatility.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: They worked him at safety and camping in the preseason
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But dude can hit. Dude wants to hit.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: You can blitz him. You can put him in press.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: He wants to play physical. I think he's a fit
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: for Jim Leonard's defense because, as we've talked about in
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the show leading up, what do the Bills need to
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: do more of? Man coverage, press, blitz, attack, creativity, all
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: this type of stuff, schematic variance. That's a dude that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you can lean into. Not that you can't with Alford.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I personally, again, you could say I'm biased because I'm
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a Miami guy. Maybe I am a little bit here
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: in this instance. Um, Alford is a fine player, more
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: coverage than he is coming forward to Corey couch looked
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: really good in a multitude of responsibilities, man and zone.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: And several of those man reps came against one of
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the fastest receivers in the league and one of the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: best receivers in the league. And he held his own,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: which was awesome to see. I also think what's huge
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to Corey couch in this game. him giving communication there's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: there's one rep where Terrell Bernard looks to him and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he gives the communication to Bernard Bernard has put his
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: hands up like what are we doing and couch gives
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: him the call and then couch looks to Benford and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: gives Benford the call like couch Hamlin and stone solidified
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like the mental side of the Bills defense and coverage
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: in this game yes grain of salt the quarterback they
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: were playing all that please don't yell at me watching
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: him stabilized things. He's coming up, you know, Ravens are
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: switching from a 3x1 to a 2x2 and vice versa.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He's coming in with the hand signal. He's relaying or
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: giving direction to Igbenosin, to the safeties, to the backers. Like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Takori Couch had a really good game, and I don't
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: even think we saw, like, the full potential of what
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: he can do. Because, again, he's a good blitzer. He's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a violent player. I'm interested to see what happens at nickel. Again,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Alford is more of coverage nickel cory couch is more
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of like a come forward type of nickel alfred can
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: come forward a little bit couch can play coverage a
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: bit and just that that level that he played with
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: against the ravens i i was uh very pleased with
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: sorry get the camera back in focus i was very
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: pleased with and honestly kind of surprised because again he
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't um it's tough to not have Some semblance of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: like an athletic profile or some physical profile in some way.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: But every once in a while, you just get dudes
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that are good football players and sound in a multitude
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: of ways. And he showed that. It'll be really interesting
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to see what happens with the nickel room going forward.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: They paid off for it a little bit of money.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I do think he is a better coverage player. maybe
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Taquari couch was a better all around player. Taquari couch
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: can also play some safety for you. So maybe that
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: leans into the versatility and kind of what you want
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to do. But if you want to lean into that
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: physicality aspect and Hey, we're going to challenge wide receivers.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: We're going to beat them up, right? We're going to press,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: we're going to reroute. We're going to jam. We're going
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to get into their hip pocket. We're going to throw
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: them around. We're going to chuck them around again, just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: beat them up. And then also like play the run,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: come forward, mash guys in other ways as we come forward.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Takori Couch ticks a lot of those boxes. Again, though,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you will see at some point he will get gotten coverage.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: There are some times where that athletic profile is just
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: going to kind of catch up to him. But I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: am interested to see what happens at the nickel spot.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And again, especially with this dime look, maybe you get
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: really creative if it's Couch and Hamlin and Stone and Bishop,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: or if they trade for a safety to replace Hamlin
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: or Stone. And then it's like, well, Bishop's like it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: in the slop, but he can also play deep and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: maybe to Corey couch can play a little deep too.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And then you got the safeties, like who's going where,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: who's doing what, maybe there's some schematic versatility on the menu.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: If everybody starts to get more confident and comfortable in
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: themselves and maybe Leonard starts wheeling and dealing and calling
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: some things a little bit. Um, but yeah, to Corey
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: couch had a really great game. I thought of just
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: doing a, I thought of just doing a film episode
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: on to Corey couch, uh, tonight. Um, just because, again,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: he's somebody who I've liked for several years, going back
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to his time in Miami. He's just, he's kind of like,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: not to this level, but if you watch Miami this
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: past year or knew the draft coming into this year,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: he was like Keontae Scott before Keontae Scott. Kind of like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Keontae Scott was like a souped up to Corey Couch.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: This slot that was like blitzing and physical and violent.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and rerouting guys and jamming dudes and mashing against anybody
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: he could. That's what to Corey couch was. So that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Keontae Scott was like a souped up to Corey couch
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in 2025 for Miami. So it's funny that that's kind
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: of like worked out the way it is. And so
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. We'll see how healthy Alford
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: can get. Again, he's still a fine player, more of
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: a true Nichols type of nickel, you know, the nickel
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: that you would see in the nineties and two thousands
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: when nickel was actually like a sub package, right? Smaller,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Type of dude, you put him out there, he's just
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: going to live in the slot. He doesn't really have
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to play the run. He's just playing coverage. So we'll see.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see kind of what happens in
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that regard. William says, does Leonard like Couchmore because he's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: in undrafted safety? I don't know. He might maybe skew
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: towards those undrafted dudes. Adrian says, I feel like DeAlford
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: has been struggling a little in coverage for a player
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: that focuses on coverage. Sorry. Tired. Yawn. Takori Couch fits
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: more of the corner that Jim Leonard wants. I also
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: don't know how much of the Alford struggles were due
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: to him being banged up and injured. But yeah, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: think there's... See, here's where we get into the weeds
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of the conversation and things, right? I do think Takori
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Couch fits several things that Jim Leonard wants. But... especially
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: in this instance and i'm not like picking at your
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: comment but if couch fits more of what jim leonard
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: wants why did they sign d alford that opens up
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a whole can of worms like pandora's box so then
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: like did jim leonard want d alford did he not
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: want d alford was that a brandon bean move is
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: brandon bean not giving jim leonard what he wants like
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: where if we open that door It leads us into
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of rooms that we're never going to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: get out of because we're going to be spinning our
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: tires in the conversation. So I prefer not to think
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: about that. I would assume Jim Leonard has some input.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I think Alford represented and represents the higher floor from
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a coverage standpoint. Again, I think to Corey couch played
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: really good against the Ravens. I think even me, somebody
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: who's watched him for years, going back to his days
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: in Miami, how well he played. Even I was like, Oh, like, wow.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Like there were some times where I'm like, okay, he's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: going to battle. He's going to mash. I'm excited to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: see what he can do. Um, Let's just kind of
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: see what happens. But there were times on tape where
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I didn't think you would be
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: able to do that. Oh, I didn't think you'd be
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: able to do that. Granted, he's been in the NFL
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: for several years now at this point. He's mainly a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: practice squad guy. But, yeah, it is interesting when you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: start to think of the vision Jim Leonard wants. Again,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I– this is another door I don't want to open.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: But the Alford signing, so much of everything in the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: offseason for me continues to add up to like they
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: didn't really get guys that I– thought made a ton
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of sense for the defense and not that they could,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: because again, they were hamstrung by financial restrictions. They didn't
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: have a lot of financial resources, draft capital resources, but
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: they did acquire more draft capital and they still didn't
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: really get to address those guys. But yeah, it's from
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a roster standpoint, it doesn't really feel like a Jim
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Leonard defense hasn't really felt that way schematically either, though
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: we did see obviously more of a schematic feel in
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: this past game. I think this is somewhat of a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: fair comment and yeah, answering it opens up pandora's box
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of doors that we could probably
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: do like a two-hour episode on but this is a
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: fair comment roy says i see some fans want another
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: cb i think we're fine and safety is a bigger
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: need what are your thoughts on the cb room i
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: so i was gonna move to corner next thank you
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: for asking your question this is a good segue christian
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: benford like him um I don't think he's a top
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: 10 corner in the NFL as so many people wanted
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to yell at me here on the show last year.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I think the year at before two people coming in
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the comments on YouTube episodes saying Joe Marino thinks Christian
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Benford's a top 10 corner, but you don't yada. I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: got yelled at so many times. I think Christian Benford
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: is a CB one. I think he's more of a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: low tier to a mid tier CB one. Um, but
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: he's looked good. He had a couple of really good
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: reps against a flowers, uh, and everybody, I mean, his
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: ability to just play as that boundary corner, um, and
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: playing isolation situations is so helpful for the Bills defense.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: But then even in the Ravens game, kind of like
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: against the Raiders too, they're moving them around in some
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: of that man coverage stuff. He covered Zay Flowers when
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers was the number three to the trip side,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and he got impressed against them and smothered him. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: like Christian Benford. I'm very, I don't know the right word.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I'm very, I was going to say wary, and I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to stay with that. I'm very wary
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: of the CB2 spot. I didn't love the Harrison pick
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: when he was the pick. Those of you who watch
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the show or follow me on social may remember how
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: much I loved Trey Amos, who went to Amos Amos.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I've heard it multiple ways from multiple people. He fell
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: to the Washington Commanders mainly, not even mainly, because of
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I think it was a knee injury that was discovered
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: during the draft process and it scared teams away and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: shied teams away. And so he fell to the commanders.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: He unfortunately is at injury concerns as a rookie last year.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: And then this year a little bit, but he also
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: makes some good plays. I think he's a good corner.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I was wary on the Hairston pick. I thought his
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: tackling was very all over the place. He was a
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: willing tackler, but his technique wasn't there. The size and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the frame didn't lend itself to him being a good tackler.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: So his technique was always going to be perfect. And then,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's a fast guy, and when
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you wanted somebody all, you wanted a number two corner
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: who could play man, he wasn't really a man corner
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: at Kentucky. He was more of an off-zone type of
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: corner who could close down on stuff really well because
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: he's really fast and has great feet and a quick trigger.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I think Hairston's, like, fine. I don't like him as, like, okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he's my CB2, I feel good. I also don't feel
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that way about Davidson Igbenosin. I feel better about Igbenosin
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: than I do Hairston. If I had to start one
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: right now, I would start Igbenosin. I just think he's
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the more sound tackler. I can trust him against screens
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: or on the edge if the run gets out. I
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: also want to play more press and do more rerouting
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and physicality and disruption between quarterbacks, timing with their wide
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: receivers and mess up route distributions. So based on the
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: type of defense that I think Leonard wants to play
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: and based on the type of defense that I want
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Leonard to play and that I like myself, I'm fine
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: with IGB. He's going to get flagged at times because
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: of how grabby he is and how handsy he is,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: but I'll take the physical violent guy over Hairston at
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: this point. And just, I'm just going to put IGB
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and Benford and press all the time and battle and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: beat dudes up. And, that's going to be the recipe.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I think what they need to do going forward, you
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: can't play press all the time. Um, but I think
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that's what you do. You play press, you beat up
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, you make them work to get open. You
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: challenge them left and right, beat them up, get up.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Let's play press. Let's jam. Let's play press. Let's not jam.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Let's play press and then bail. Let's play some games,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: but let's get up, get physical reroute violent. Um, let's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: disrupt some timing. Um, I think Harrison is a fine
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: CB three right now. It's less than ideal that your
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: first round pick from a year ago. As of right now,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: it looks like kind of a, a wasted pick. I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: hate saying that like a second year into a guy's
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: second year, especially with Harrison, essentially still being a rookie
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: because how much time you missed last year. But the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Harrison pick is not looking so hot right now. Eggman knows.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: And I still think it is wait and see. I've
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: liked some of the things he's done. I haven't liked
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: some of the things that he's done. I thought the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: second round was early for him as a pick. I
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: had more of a third, fourth on him. Um, I'm
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: still worried about the grabbiness, but I'm fine with IGB.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I see the notion of fans wanting another corner. I
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: do think that would be sick. Cause again, I Christian Benford,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I think is a very good corner. Christian Benford is
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a CB one. Like even if he's a low tier
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: CB one, he's a, he's a CB one. Christian Benford
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: is a good football player. Um, So imagine if you
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: had like another Christian Benford or, I mean, this was,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: this was hard. It wouldn't happen, but like, imagine, imagine
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: if you got a corner that was better than Christian
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Benford and Christian Benford was your two. Like I get
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that notion that helps your safeties because now you've got
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: two corners on the outside and it's like, Hey, guess what?
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Good luck beating corner one. And then Christian Benford is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: corner two or two Benford's. So I can see that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: notion of fans kind of want another corner and solidifying things.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: But I think, And I hate doing the sunk cost
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: fallacy thing, but I hate the idea of adding another
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: corner and spending resources on one after you took a
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: corner in round one two years ago and then took
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Igbenosin in round two this year. That's a lot of
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: draft capital and even some financial capital that goes along
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: with it. But I get that notion of upgrading the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: CB room. But I think all things considered, I'll put
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: it to you like this. I feel better about Igbenosin
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: as the starting CB2 than I do about DeMar Hamlin
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: or Geno Stone being the starting safety one opposite of
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop. So for me, you got to get a safety.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I think safety is the bigger need. I will take
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Igbenosin at CB2 more than I will take Hamlin or
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Geno Stone being a starter. Yeah. But I think that
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the CB room is interesting. Where, who has something? Adrian said,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: isn't Moss from the Broncos a similar player to IGB?
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Not from a size standpoint. I actually, overall, I wouldn't
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: say so. I think Riley Moss is more, Riley Moss
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: has some dog to him, similar to kind of how
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: IGB does. But I think Riley Moss is much more
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: technical and fluid of an athlete. How he plays routes,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I think he has better change of direction as well.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Igbenosin is more long speed length in his legs and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: his arms. I think Riley Moss is proportioned differently. So
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the body shapes are different. The frame is different. Um,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think Riley Moss has better plays on the ball,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: maybe even a little more athleticism at the catch point. Um, I, I,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I think, I think they're more different than they are
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the same. A IGB is more of your prototypical, uh,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Brandon Browner type corner from the Seahawks in the Legion
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: of Boom days. Long corner, play press, get up, jam dudes,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: beat the hell out of them. I think Riley Moss
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: is more, a little more fluid, a little more athletic,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: plays on the ball, more technical. Can play press, can
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: play some man, can play zone, can play match. I
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: think they're more different than they are the same. Slim
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: says Bean should just stop drafting corners in the first
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: two rounds forever. I kind of don't think that's crazy.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. Kent says it's mandatory that
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Bean gets a long-term safety. I agree. There's a world where,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and again, trades are hard. It takes two to dance
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. There's a world where the Bills
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: don't do anything at the deadline at safety, and they
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: play the rest of the year with Hamlin, Stone, and Bishop.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And there's a world where Bishop's play continues to ebb
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: and flow and rollercoaster. And the Bills go into the
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: offseason needing two safeties. I don't love that. So yeah, I...
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop could be fine. You could also need a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: new safety other than Cole Bishop in the offseason. So again,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that's part of why I think safety is such a
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Such a need. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: disagree with this. TBB says Moss isn't that athletic, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: him and IGB grab a lot. Moss is all right.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Riley Moss gets targeted a ton because he plays opposite
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: of Pat Sertan, and Riley Moss holds his own. Yes,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: he gets dunked on from time to time, and part
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: of that is the sheer volume of stuff that goes
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: his way. Riley Moss is a good corner. Riley Moss
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: is legit CB2. Um, we don't know if IGB is
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: or not yet, but I, um, I think you're, I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: think you're selling Riley Moss a little bit short. Um,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and again, he gets a ton of work because people
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to throw a pat. They're going to throw it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Riley Moss. Um, but he, right. Riley Moss is a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: good player. Riley Moss is a good player. Um, where was, yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that comment from Kent. Yeah. I think safety in this
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: goes even to Roy's comment as well. I think safety
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: is the bigger need long-term and even short-term. I think
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: you need a upgraded safety for 2026. Um, And I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: think there's a scenario where you need two new safeties
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: in 2027. So let's lock one down and Hey, let's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: lock one down. Now make ourselves better. I didn't say
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: he was an athletic for, I don't think I did
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: that at all. But you were making it seem like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: he's an athletic freak. I don't think I said that.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I said, I think he's more athletic and smoother and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: fluid than IGB. As I said, IGB is more straight
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: line speed. Okay, I disagree. I don't think I overhyped him.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I said he's a good player and a legit CB2.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I did not make him seem like he's an athletic freak.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think I said athletic freak at all. I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: just said he's, I compared him to IGB. I think
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: he's smoother and more fluid and more technically sound. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: don't think I said he was an athletic freak and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think I overhyped him. But yeah, he's a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: good CB2. That's what I said. I said he's a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: good CB2. He's a legit CB2. We don't know if
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: IGB is that as of right now. He could be,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, IGB could even turn into a CB one.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: We have no idea at this point, the sample size
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: isn't there. Um, yeah, I think safety is the bigger need.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop could end up rounding into form and being
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: the Prince that was promised at safety. And then cool. Now,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: next year you've got whatever safety you traded for and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, and you don't have to worry about that spot. Um, yeah. Right.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Says there's a world where being convinced is Levi Wallace
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: to come out of retirement, to shore up the CV room.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: And then he says, LOL, with a bunch of laughing emojis.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: That's not even remotely funny, but fair point. Um, Yeah,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I think safety is the bigger need. You know, I think.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I hope Cole Bishop will end up being fine. But yeah,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I think safety is the bigger need. But I don't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: think I don't think I don't think people wanting, you know,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: an upgraded corner is necessarily a crazy notion. But I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: would say safety is the bigger need. I would say
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: safety and. I think linebacker. I'd love an upgrade at linebacker,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: but I think safety is the biggest of all of it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I'm more comfortable with Bernard and Dorian, even though I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: don't love either. I'm more comfortable with Bernard and Dorian
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: than I am Hamlin and Stone. Josh says, uh, yo, Ant,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: if Bean were to make a move, do you have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: a hunch or something as to when that would be
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: in the next week? You know, it's funny, as I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: was talking about this earlier today with Kendall Murski, routine
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: guest of the show and friend of mine. The trade
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: deadline is next Tuesday. The Bills play Monday night. I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: feel like you'd have to make them waiting until you finish.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you're saying this, but I'm just
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: talking this out loud. Waiting until you finish your game
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Monday to make a move gives you such a small window.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: You literally only have Tuesday, and then you're kind of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: at the mercy of the market and the seller more
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: so than you already are at the trade deadline. All
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the other teams play Sunday, and so they get all
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: day Monday. I feel like if Bean is going to
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: make a move or if the Bills are going to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: make a move, I think it has to come before
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota game. It has to come before Monday. I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say it has to. I feel like it should.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: It's harder in that small window. You play Monday night
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: against Minnesota, and then you've got to get a deal
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: in by Tuesday at 4 p.m. That's a small window. Again,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: maybe there's not a lot of action, so there's a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: lot of teams in there, but it creates more of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: a seller's market. I think it drives prices up. I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: would prefer... them to get a deal done this week
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: and before their game against Minnesota. Cause I think once
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you play Minnesota, maybe something happens and your hand is
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: forced and the teams know your hand is forced. So
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: now teams that were like, Oh yeah, we'll give you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: this guy for a fourth. Now they're like, well, we
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: want them for a third because we know you're desperate. Um,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I think it would happen. I would like it to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: happen before the Minnesota game, just because I think logistically
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: you make that window small after Monday night and before
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that Tuesday, four o'clock deadline, it gets wonky. It gets wonky.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: It gets wonky. Um, Well, that's fair on your follow-up
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: comment saying, I also feel like you have to do
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: it before. The issue is maybe some teams want to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: see how Sunday pans out. That's fair, but then try
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and get it done Monday. Player doesn't play. Monday night
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, you acquire them. Major League Baseball, hockey, NBA style,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: you trade for them that same day. They're not going
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: to debut that night. But yeah, I think that's just tight.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: You're putting yourself into a, you're pigeonholing yourself, kind of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: backing yourself into a corner if you wait until after
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: your Monday night game. Slim says, what's your beef with Bishop?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Ant might've missed it from other. No beef. I just think,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I think the most succinct way I can say it
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: is I think he's more traits than he is football player.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I think his first year, his second year, and this year,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: he just looks too lost as a safety at times.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Not as safe. He just has like a player, just not,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: no feel for routes behind him, routes developing, feel for
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: spatial awareness. Um, I think you just have to operate
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: with him in a very specific way. And I felt
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: that way since he was drafted. Um, I always thought
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: he needed to go to a team that played more
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: man coverage and would use him as kind of like
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: a big nickel. That's why I questioned the fit for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: the bills. Cause at that time in McDermott's defense, it
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: was like, you're what you want him to be a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: hide or a poyer. And granted he has the athletic
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: chops for it. Right. He's a guy who, you know, big, strong,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: athletic tested really well. Um, But I just think he's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: more traits than football player, and I don't holistically like that.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: And with how much he's gotten lost on tape this
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: year and going back to last year, it worries me. Again,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go. This isn't fair to hang it
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: over his head. I think I spoke about this several
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. I'm going to go back to that third
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: down play against Denver in the divisional round. Third and nine,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: third and ten, whatever it was, after the Bills had
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: just scored. It's the drive that the Broncos drive down
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: and tie it at the end of the fourth. It's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: third and nine, third and ten. The Bills play an
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: inverted Tampa two, and everybody ripped McDermott for playing a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: soft coverage. It was a good call. Everybody executed. I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say everybody. Majority of people executed, except for Cole Bishop,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: who took the bait, and got high load and came
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: up on the route underneath that he didn't need to.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: And Cortland Sutton got hit behind him by Bo Nix
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: on the dig because Bishop just doesn't have that feel,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that awareness. And he's continued to do that
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: this year. And that's in my head, the fact that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: that hasn't improved. And it's really just like, no, hey,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: we just got to use this guy to play man
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: coverage or we got to blitz him. Also, he continues
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: to miss tackles from depth, and that pisses me off.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Safeties that don't make tackles from depth, that bothers me.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: But that's also kind of a lost art. So yeah,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: no beef. I just think he's more traits than football player.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And that gets to me, or worries me, I should say.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't think I've seen improvement in that area
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: enough for me to consider him a long-term option at safety.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Adrian says, how do you feel about Terrell Bernard? Joe
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Brady says he's playing well, but... Joe Brady says he
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: is playing well, but I have eyes. He looks like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the equivalent of Taylor Rapp playing linebacker. I think Bernard
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: has been better than he's getting credit for. He's had
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: some good plays. I mean, in that first play that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Lamar got hurt, Rousseau is the one who hits the thumb,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: but Bernard blitzes and goes right through Derrick Henry. Bernard
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: has had some nice moments where he's closed the door
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: on pullers, made some plays against the run. He's triggered
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I think some of the issues, I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: think some of the blame that's been placed on him
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: was unfairly placed, and I think he's made some good
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: plays that have gone unnoticed. That being said, I think
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: there are times where he looks like he has cement
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: in his shoes, and that's not good for a dude
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: who's very undersized at linebacker. You cannot be small and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: also be slow. Like, that is a death sentence. If
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to be slow, fine. You better be like 6'2, 240.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: If you're going to be small, that's fine. You better
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: shoot around the field and just be a ball of
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: lightning and a bolt every time you move. And I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: don't think he is that. You know, if he's not
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: in the right spot, if he doesn't time it right,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't see it right, he's going to get
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: swallowed up by offensive linemen. You know, it's... It's... considering
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: the contract they gave him. So yeah, I don't think
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: he's been as bad as people are making him out
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to be. I don't think he's a plus player, and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing to the level of the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: contract he got, which is really unfortunate. I don't know
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: if it's due to the injury or what. I also
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: never thought he was the most fleet of footer athletic
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: guy before. I think if I remember, I think he's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: got a good RAS score. And I remember people pointing
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: to that rash score and be like, oh, we got
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: this athletic dude at linebacker. And I remember thinking like,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't, he doesn't show that on tape.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah. He's, he's fine. Meh. Yeah. Again, I, I,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I would love an upgrade at line. I, I still
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: want to see Shaq Thompson. Get me the bigger guy
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: who can thump. And as a vet who's seen a ton,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I still had the interception against Trevor Lawrence in the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: wildcard round playing in my head where he feels the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: dig and knows it's coming and jumps it and picks it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's been as bad as everybody's making
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: him out to be. I feel like a lot of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: people think he's been like a 3 out of 10
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: or a 2. I think a lot of people think
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: he's been like a 2 out of 10. Joe Brady
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: talks about him like he's a 7 out of 10.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's like... I think he's been like a
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: 4 out of 10 on average. But he's had some
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: moments where he's been a 6. And he's been a 7.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: But then he's also had moments where he's been like
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: a 2. Or a 1. And more often than not.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And then like a 3. And that's the way I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: think he averages out to a 4. That's kind of
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: where I put him. Slightly below average. To average at times.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Depending on how you look at it. TVB says, Ant
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: watches too much film. I do watch too much film.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: That is fair. Slim says... It seems like we don't
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: have a quote unquote complete player on the defense aside
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: from Groot and Walker. Everyone else has a well, but, uh, yeah,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: I think Christian Benford's a complete player, good coverage player.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: He can play man. He can play zone. He can tackle. Well, um, Hey,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, his butt might be like, he's not a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: plus athlete, but you could do that for kind of everybody. Um,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I think Benford is, I think Benford is a complete player. Um, Yeah,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I think Bedford's a complete player. I don't know if
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I'd say Gruden-Walker or... No, I guess that's fair. But yeah,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that is the problem. Like, you look, there's no... I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: don't know who you hang your hat on at times,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. Adrian says that Oliver's a complete player.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: When he's healthy, yeah. I just... That's always such a
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: wonky thing. I do think that Oliver is... Ed Oliver
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: is never going to hit the ceiling of a top
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: 10 pick. And I think that gets held against them
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: a lot, but he's a, he's a good football player
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: and a solid football player. He had some nice plays
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: in the Ravens game as well. Um, in his first
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: game back, it will be nice if he can stay
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: healthy and start to be somebody that can start to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: generate some momentum. Uh, that's a fair comment. Can add
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: complete a game? That's a fair rebuttal. Um, best abilities, availability. Um,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I think that's a lot. That's a, you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: getting it back to the secondary. I think there's, um,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: a slim says timestamp. Benford is a complete player. I've
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: always said Christian Benford was good. I just didn't think
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: he was a top 10 corner and a lock as
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: a top 10 corner. Like other people may have. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: But I think Christian Benford is a complete player. You know,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: as a complete player, I think actually that's what I've
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: always said with Benford. I don't think Benford is elite
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: at anything. But I think every, and no, I take
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: it back. And I say this every time because I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: always forget. He's an elite run defending corner. Coming forward, tackling,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: playing the run, being a force player. He's elite at that.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: But from like a trades perspective and overall, he's like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: he's not the biggest. He's not the strongest. He's not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the fastest. He's not the most athletic. He's not amazing
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: in man. He's not amazing in zone. Like he's just
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: a good all around football player. As a run defender,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: he's like a nine, nine and a half. Everything else
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: for like being a corner in the NFL, Christian Benford
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: is like a six and a half or a seven,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: maybe a seven and a half in everything. Like he's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: not deficient in any area. And that's why I think
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: he's a complete football player. Like, is he the best
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: at everything? No. I think he's really, really, really good
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: at one thing. And then everything else, he is above,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: above average. Marty says, I know this is off topic.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think about Chubb so far, especially since
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: we were paying for two years at least? I think
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: he's been fine. Plays the run. Good as a spiker.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: He's kind of been what I've expected. I was underwhelmed
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: at the signing just because it was the same type
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: of skill set that they've had. It was the same
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: archetype at edge that they've subscribed to for years. But
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: he's been fine. Plays the run. He's a good spiker.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Clears the pass for other guys on all the games
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: and a lot of the movement stuff they've been doing.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: um knows his responsibility knows his role plays it he's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: a solid pro and i don't mean that as like
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: a disparaging comment or a negative like he's been fine
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and i again i don't mean that to be like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a backhanded thing he's he's been a solid edge to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: low tier edge to which is what he is at
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: this stage um but a guy that you can start
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: on a good defense he's been reliable so i i'm
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: i'm whelmed by him he's played to what i thought
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: he would be i'm not underwhelmed i'm not overwhelmed if
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: you If they signed him and you thought he was
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: going to be like a 12-13 sack dude, you're probably disappointed.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you didn't think that. We're still on
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: this out there in general. But I think he's been fine.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Joshua says, off-topic question on Groot. Oh, he brought up
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: my Batman-Robin metaphor. Does the Batman-Robin metaphor still apply to him?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: If not, what changed about him? I've thought about this
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: so much because the only thing that's really changed is
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: the defense and the angles he's rushing from and playing
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: in a two-point stance. He's not winning with like, oh,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: rush plan and moves. He's essentially winning with the same
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: thing every time. He takes two steps. He's already into
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: a tackle. He uses a long arm. You know, if
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: he's rushing off the defense's left or the offense's right,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: he's in a two-point stance. He takes two steps because
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: he's a frigging tree. Gets that right arm, his inside arm,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: right into the chest of the tackle. Uses his outside arm,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: that left hand. He'll grab the outside wrist of the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: right tackle, lift it, and then either pushes himself through,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: or pulls himself through. I don't think, I still think
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: he's more of a Robin despite the sack production that
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: he's at right now and the pressure production. I think
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: what's changed is his usage. You know, there's more games,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: there's more stunts. And then the angles that he's rushing
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: from combined with a two point stance, I think more
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: and more advantageous to his play style and his length,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: his size and his frame. So I think he's still
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: more of a Robin just because he's, And I don't
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: mean this to be like, he's not doing anything. He's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: just winning with the same thing, which is fine. If
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it's not broken, don't fix it. I think he's a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Batman against the run, but I still think he's more
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: of a Robin as a pass rusher, despite the production.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think all of a sudden, because again, he's not...
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: He's not like, oh, he's winning with this move, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: then he's winning with that. But he knows... what to
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: win with. And then Leonard's defense is setting him up
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: in those advantageous positions, the length, his stride, and then
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: his arm length is creating such a problem. There was
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: even a spot to where, um, Oh, TV or MP
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: says maybe a Walker goes into a Batman. That can
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: be possibility. Um, there was even a snap to a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Rosen garden and right tackle tries to like quick set
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: him and like jump him. So like, He goes out
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: to him right away. He doesn't take a 45-degree set
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: or vertical set. He jumps right out to him, and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: he gets on Groot right away, and then Groot works
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: himself through with his hands and his length. That length
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: is such a problem, and when you set him up
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: at those angles in this defense and with his stride
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: and in the two-point stance, yeah, it's really working for him.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: So I think it's more of the defense changed I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: don't think much to his game has changed. I think
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: he's seeing the game a little bit better because he's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: in a two point stance. But I think the way
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: he's being used is the biggest difference for him just
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: because of how he's winning and how those wins are coming.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: So he's playing in his role well. I think it's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: just more of the defense really being a good fit
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: for him and how he's being used not to knock him. TV.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: This is accurate. TV says every time they do a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: stunt Walker be doing a hold on the center and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: they get a free rusher every time, man, they were
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: doing a bunch of tackle twists against Baltimore. And yeah,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: he was just holding. You could see it on the tape.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Like the center's Jersey is being pulled and stretched. And yeah,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens, he's throwing his hands up. Like he's being held. Yeah.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Walker held him a ton. They did not call defensive
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: holding on walk. I don't think they called it once
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: and they easily could have called it like three times.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: There were three like egregious ones for sure. Matt Bovee
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: threw out the idea of trading for Kyle Hamilton since
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Baltimore is in a reset. It will never happen from
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: 6 to midnight for a bit. The Ravens are not
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: trading Kyle Hamilton. And if they did, it's going to
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: be for like five first-round picks. that's fair yeah i
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: don't think they're trained i would love kyle hamilton especially
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: for jim letter oh man that would be sick but
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: yeah the ravens aren't uh are training kyle hamilton but
• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:02
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• 1:22:01
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• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: this can only be ordered via call-in. It won't be
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  Speaker 1: available online. The only people that are going to hear
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  Speaker 1: about it are people that watch the show and or
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the people who watch the show tell other people. RJ,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're going in and you're going to do
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: some kind of crazy pizza. Yes, RJ, please and thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Order that beef on wet pizza. I love the exclamation points.
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  Speaker 1: I need pictures of it and I need to know
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  Speaker 1: what you think and what you think. Um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be the person that orders the old secret
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: pizza cause of the show. So I, I need, please
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  Speaker 1: order it. Tell me what you think. I hope it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I need pictures. Tag me like you always do. Um,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: but yeah, toys for tots drive for one brought one pie.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: And every time you bring in a toy, you get
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: entered into the raffle. So say you bring in five toys,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: you'll get five raffle tickets. Um, So again, bring in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: a new toy or cash donation. You'll get entered into
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: the raffle sponsored by Pepsi and Disguise Coverage. First prize,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: two club seats to Bills vs. Jets. Second prize, $ 200
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  Speaker 1: One Pie gift card. Third prize, a Pepsi branded umbrella
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  Speaker 1: and One Pie merch. And the fourth prize is a
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: $ 50 One Pie gift card. And again, that's the secret pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Talked about here on the show. Has to be called in.
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  Speaker 1: No online ordering. Beef on wet pizza. Garlic butter. Mozzarella. Provolone.
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  Speaker 1: Thin sliced beef. Thin sliced beef. Kosher salt. Caraway shake
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  Speaker 1: and creamy horseradish drizzle. Pizza. Holidays. Between all the pizza
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: I eat and eggnog around the holiday season, man, it
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: would be a lot of poundage that I'm going to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: be putting on here in my house and in myself.
• 1:24:04
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• 1:24:05
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• 1:24:33
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• 1:24:38
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• 1:24:42
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• 1:24:49
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• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the big tree is coming soon. That's right. That's right.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: The little tree. Oh, no, little tree will stay there,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: and I'll decorate it for Christmastime. And then, oh, I'm
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: going to block their Andre Reid jersey, but then the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: big holiday tree, the Christmas tree, is going to go
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: over here. You are right. You are right. Oh, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: RJ selling the one pie. They're saying every specialty pizza
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: I've had there has been great. Yes. Their food is phenomenal.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I was super pumped when, um, so I, I talked
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: with the owner, um, a while ago back during the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: summer about, you know, doing something for the one, one, one,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: the toys for tots drive and, um, what we were
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: going to do this year, what the giveaway was, what
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: the prizes were, the proceeds, all of it. Um, And
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: then he was like, Oh, I also want to tie in.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Like he surprised me. He's like, Oh, we're going to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: do a specialty pizza, like a secret pizza that you
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: can talk about on the show. We're not going to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: advertise it anywhere else. I thought that was super cool.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Like a secret menu item and it's only attached to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: the show. So I think that's super cool. And yeah,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: every special, everything they've done there has been amazing, whether
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: it's a standard pizza or a specialty pizza. So yeah,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: get that beef on whack pizza and let me know
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: how it is. Please, please, please. Thank you. Yeah. James
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: says beef on whack. Yummy. Yeah. I know on the pizza, like,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I just reading about the ingredients sounds phenomenal. So, uh,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have to snag one at some point,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: which is super cool, which is funny. Cause I usually
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: only order online. So I'm calling, uh, yeah. Good times.
• 1:26:12
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• 1:26:15
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• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: if you did not check it, I already had a
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: film breakdown episode that went out yesterday, breaking down a
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: bunch of tape from the bills defense against the Ravens,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: you know, how and why it felt more Jim Leonard like,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: and what he was doing and how the players were executing. Um,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: a really good stuff there. I mean, granted, I'll probably buy.
• 1:26:35
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• 1:26:56
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• 1:27:09
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• 1:27:12
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