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Aaron Stresemann joins the show! · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: It is a nice Wednesday evening, the twenty fourth of September.
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  Speaker 2: We're moving right along.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be October soon and then the holidays
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  Speaker 1: and sweatshirt weather and all that good stuff that living
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  Speaker 1: in New England brings us this time of year. I
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  Speaker 1: hope some people Actually, I got to say from my
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  Speaker 1: last podcast, I actually had a lot of dms about
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  Speaker 1: the breads that my girlfriend has been selling. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you for the people that listened and actually dimter for
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  Speaker 1: some breads they'll be getting in this weekend. So that
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  Speaker 1: was always good. Tonight's guest, this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: like all over the map kind of conversation. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to really focus in on one thing. But I
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  Speaker 1: met this gentleman through work. He is a consultant for
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  Speaker 1: Lackeyed Martin. I would say, Aaron Stressman, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining the show today.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it, thank you absolutely thanks for letting me be
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  Speaker 2: on this massive podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome massive and you're just gonna put me over the top.
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  Speaker 1: We actually started talking because you actually have your own
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  Speaker 1: pod or podcasts, I know, your Bible ones. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a little out of commission for a while,
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  Speaker 1: or you just redid.
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  Speaker 2: It one right, yeah, just started back up. Yeah okay.
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  Speaker 2: So so when we say podcast, right, so you learn
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  Speaker 2: that because I put it in my bio when we
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  Speaker 2: talk right, hobbies and things like that. And I'd always
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  Speaker 2: joke and say that I'm an international podcaster because I
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  Speaker 2: had one or two listeners from some other country. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you get on your anchor, you'll be like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but the reality is, I mean, if I
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  Speaker 2: have twenty people that have listened to my episodes, I
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  Speaker 2: got like maybe twenty three episodes now on on Spotify.
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  Speaker 2: So so to use the term podcasters, you know, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, I played football in high school and
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  Speaker 2: basketball in high school, but you know, am I a
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  Speaker 2: basketball starting not even not in the level of Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. When I started mine, I used to take
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  Speaker 1: a like I'd be like people because people like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you got a podcast now, I'm like yeah, And then
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  Speaker 1: like my real friends will be.
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  Speaker 2: Like everyone a podcast jerk.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's I Like I used to get like
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  Speaker 1: like not embarrassed, but like, yeah, I should even do this.
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  Speaker 1: But then I just realize how much fun I have
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  Speaker 1: and I meet people like you and every guest I've
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  Speaker 1: had along the way, and the conversations we've had, and literally, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be what's we're four and a half years be
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  Speaker 1: five five years in January and uh it's it's well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into it a little bit. But like, the
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  Speaker 1: news cycle is incredibly fast things. I mean, do you
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  Speaker 1: realize today is just two weeks since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks It just feels like fucking six months ago,
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  Speaker 1: it does, you know. And it's just it's we're on
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  Speaker 1: to the next and on to the next, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: people have their tires and they're whatever's and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: just crazy, and uh, it's it's hard to just I
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  Speaker 1: wish everyone would just sit down and you know, talk talk.
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  Speaker 1: What was that movie with with ship It's along came Polly,
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  Speaker 1: Remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And it was the guy was pretending that like he
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  Speaker 1: had like the videoographers following him around. He passed away
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  Speaker 1: what was his name? You know that his side his buddy. Anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was a scene in the movie towards the end
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  Speaker 1: where his father goes or what the hell was the
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  Speaker 1: name actor in this? Why can't think of that? I
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  Speaker 1: just thought this was my.
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  Speaker 2: Head now it's not Ben's no, no, it's Ben Stiller.
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  Speaker 1: Ben ben Stiller's dad finally walks up to the kid.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, can you just fucking for what just like stop,
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  Speaker 1: slow down and just look at what's around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just you know, like he had this whole
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  Speaker 1: like speech at the end. I just thought of it now,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't really have to how it exactly went,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm like, people just need to do that, like
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  Speaker 1: step step back, Like today on the internet was just
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  Speaker 1: all tail and all and and fucking autism and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, whatever Trump says is a lie and the
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  Speaker 1: RFK fucking has worms in his head. And there's videos
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  Speaker 1: of chicks, just pregnant girls downing tail and all pills
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  Speaker 1: to prove a fucking point, like A.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so, so the cool thing about now is
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  Speaker 2: you can reach more people in a minute than you
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  Speaker 2: ever could in life, right, But the crappy thing about
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  Speaker 2: now is everybody thinks they need to live in that minute, right,
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  Speaker 2: So everybody's out there trying to record something or be
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  Speaker 2: on lie Like everybody resides on online now all the time,
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  Speaker 2: even when you're in real life, they're online. I saw.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't watch news because it just stresses me out.
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  Speaker 2: So so I'll flip through Instagram every once in a
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  Speaker 2: while and if something pops up, then if I want
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  Speaker 2: to know you know to you and I talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. If I want to know facts, I'll do
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  Speaker 2: some Internet research and check a bunch of places to
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  Speaker 2: sase that is that story. We're getting the whole story, right.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm flipping through and it's showing this photo, black
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  Speaker 2: and white photo of two girls and I think she
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  Speaker 2: was like seventeen, and then like a like a six
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  Speaker 2: year old falling out of a balcony and it won
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  Speaker 2: a Pulitzer Prize for the photo. It's a black and
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  Speaker 2: white photo from like the seventies or something, because there
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  Speaker 2: was a building fire and it's falling from the fifth
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  Speaker 2: floor from fire escape and then and all the people
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  Speaker 2: are writing stuff below like you know, why is death?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Why are they getting a Pulitzer prize for that?
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  Speaker 2: My first thought was, why is this person holding a
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  Speaker 2: camera instead of like trying to help these kids out,
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  Speaker 2: which apparently the building was on fire and they're standing
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  Speaker 2: there with a camera, why not go under it and
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  Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, let me try to catch
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  Speaker 2: them or something. I mean, granted it's five floor, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, and the kids were not
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  Speaker 2: real big, But I guess what I'm saying with that
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  Speaker 2: is it's the same thing now, anything that pops off,
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  Speaker 2: people pull their cameras out instead of going, how can
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  Speaker 2: I help this person to help that?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is going to go viral? Yeah, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's opinion now needs to be spewed out online and
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  Speaker 2: because nobody knows who I am, I can have an
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  Speaker 2: opinion on everything because the repercussions of my opinion or
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  Speaker 2: my voice in real life doesn't matter. Although now a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are finding out, Oh, the company can
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  Speaker 2: get rid of me because i'm you know, I'm celebrating
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's assassination, you know. But I like the fact
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  Speaker 2: that people are still are now finding the repercussions of
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  Speaker 2: their words matter. I don't I don't think people need
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  Speaker 2: to be censored, but that doesn't mean that you're just
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  Speaker 2: because you have the right to say whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you have the right to not have
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  Speaker 2: the repercussions of what you've said. Right. So, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: a public figure, like a lot of times, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when we've been in classes or whatever, since I'm a consultant,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a visitor and any of these companies
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  Speaker 2: to go to. If somebody brings up the Bible, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the podcast, I always stop for a minute
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  Speaker 2: and then I'll say, Okay, this is me personally, Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Stressman making this because you know, for one, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to represent a company that that that that's not
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  Speaker 2: their opinion, right, And two, you know, I could get
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  Speaker 2: in trouble maybe. I mean, you know, I'm pretty strong
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  Speaker 2: opinions on the Bible and what it says, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and what other denominations might believe that are not factual
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  Speaker 2: and scriptural, and I could get in trouble, and I
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  Speaker 2: could get my company in trouble. So so I watched that.
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  Speaker 2: Not that I don't think that I shouldn't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: evangelize or whatever, but I'm conscious of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I'm also an employee of a company, right, But I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of people have lost that thought.
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  Speaker 1: When I got hired, I asked my powers to be
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  Speaker 1: above me. I'm like, hey, just so you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got this podcast. I have some opinions. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to divulge into, you know, company secrets or anything. You say, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I like Trump or you know, I don't like some
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  Speaker 1: of the you know, the liberal you know actions out
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  Speaker 1: there and whatever, just you know, or even my with Viva,
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  Speaker 1: my sponsor. Luckily they're very aligned with me. But still
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  Speaker 1: they they're they're going to get to the point where
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  Speaker 1: they get big and be like they may say, hey, Jared,
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  Speaker 1: we love you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not that you know, liberals drink alcohol too.
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  Speaker 1: Dan, So I mean there's there's that aspect to too,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, and and what's crazy and we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: religion in a minute, but you're bringing that up is
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  Speaker 1: At a young age, I went to Sunday School, didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it. My mom was like, basically, if you don't like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to go. So I never went. My
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  Speaker 1: views on religion have literally been like this over the years.
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  Speaker 1: From the top of it being all right, I see
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  Speaker 1: I could see some of this stuff to the bottom,
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  Speaker 1: being like these people are crazy, you know, like not crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but some ways for sure. To now where I'm at
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  Speaker 1: is like I'm almost like I told I was going
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  Speaker 1: to this Bible discussion on Monday night with some friends
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  Speaker 1: and they invited me, and I'm like, I'm not the
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  Speaker 1: guy you want there, And I'm like, no, we do
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  Speaker 1: what I appreciate the most as I'm getting older and
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  Speaker 1: life becomes less sure of everything. You know, when you're younger,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a care in the world, right right
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  Speaker 1: with have responsibilities and families and houses and kids and
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  Speaker 1: all that shit. What I appreciate most about people of
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  Speaker 1: faith is they don't have that fear. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they may not want I'm sure they don't want to die.
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  Speaker 1: Who does, but like they don't they they know that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to go to a better place. Whether they
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  Speaker 1: are or not is not my I don't know, But
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that belief in me. I wish I did,
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  Speaker 1: because I think that's a great way to live life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well maybe I could still change. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I want. I don't know, but like I have a
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  Speaker 1: greater appreciation for it, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, And I would say, it's funny I heard
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  Speaker 2: to quote it wrong. I'd heard at some point somebody say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: actually it's C. S. Lewis, the writer, you know, the lion,
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  Speaker 2: the witch in the order. He said something like, if
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  Speaker 2: if being a Christian is wrong, then it's only it's
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  Speaker 2: only stupidity. But if being a question being a Christian
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  Speaker 2: is right, then it has an internal impact essentially. So
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  Speaker 2: what do you what do you lose from being a
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  Speaker 2: Christian here on earth? Is okay? So I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get into all the debauchery that the Bible says not
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  Speaker 2: to be involved in, right and in reality, you know
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  Speaker 2: as well as I do that a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: debauchery is usually pretty empty at the end anyways, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, I don't. I don't tell people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not to get too deep into it, but I did it.
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  Speaker 2: We did a Bible study a long time ago. Our
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  Speaker 2: preacher we would have a Sunday school class where you know,
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  Speaker 2: it breaks into different age groups. Our preacher is a
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  Speaker 2: little bit older than us, but not much, maybe ten
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  Speaker 2: years older than us, and we had, you know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that are you know, forties, fifties. Well
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  Speaker 2: back then it was probably maybe ten years ago, so forties,
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  Speaker 2: mid forties, and we were doing a Bible study and
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  Speaker 2: as we went through we talked about all the different
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  Speaker 2: things and how a Christian is supposed to be able
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  Speaker 2: to conduct themselves and came to the conclusion that I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't drink at all, right because of the optics of
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  Speaker 2: somebody that I'm trying to talk to about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: changing her life. And then then see me coming out
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  Speaker 2: of a you know, an out a liquor store or
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  Speaker 2: something like that, and if I got a beer in
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  Speaker 2: front of me, who knows if that's you know, they
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  Speaker 2: don't know that that's the first beer, the only beer
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, right, And then being able to control myself
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  Speaker 2: at all times, you know, you know, alcohol loosens you
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  Speaker 2: up and all that stuff. But basically absolutely, but basically
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  Speaker 2: there's not there's but there's not a scripture that says
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  Speaker 2: you cannot drink right. But it comes from, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as you become a more mature quote unquote mature Christian
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  Speaker 2: doing studies and finding out ways that you need to
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  Speaker 2: improve yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I would never go to somebody and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't drink, right, because that would be right of me.
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  Speaker 2: That's something that person. That's conclusion. What I'm getting at is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was in the Marine Corps. Used to
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  Speaker 2: drink like a lot, right, wasn't an alcoholic because I
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  Speaker 2: could quit at any time, right, But I remember all
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  Speaker 2: the days where I would wake up the next morning
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  Speaker 2: feeling like like I just yeah, like I just licked
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  Speaker 2: the carpet before I woke up. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I have like no money. So the good thing was
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  Speaker 2: that I could go to the chow haul and still eat,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I didn't have to worry about any
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  Speaker 2: of the money that i'd blown because I have everything
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  Speaker 2: provided for me. But the next day would always feel horrible. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: in the moment it was great, but the result was
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  Speaker 2: always horrible. And as you think of all the things
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  Speaker 2: in life that you know the Bible says you shouldn't do,
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  Speaker 2: nine times out of ten it's not well, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to say ten times out of ten, it's usually not
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  Speaker 2: good for you anyways. Right. So so you know, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: in a long winded way, if I live the life
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  Speaker 2: that I'm supposed to hear and I find out at
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  Speaker 2: the end that it's wrong, what did I lose? Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: Really you know. But but all that being said, all
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  Speaker 2: the things that you're talking about, the fact that you
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  Speaker 2: at least have that curiosity and you see one good
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  Speaker 2: thing is you see that in other people, which is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what we're supposed to exemplify, right, Right. Doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: that we don't have fears, It doesn't mean that we
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  Speaker 2: don't have bad days. It just means when we go
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  Speaker 2: through that emotion, we can go, oh, but you know what,
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  Speaker 2: this is temporary, kind of like when you're a kid
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  Speaker 2: and you've got, you know, baby teeth. You don't get
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  Speaker 2: braces when you have baby teeth, right, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: dentist is not really worried about your baby teeth, They're
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  Speaker 2: worried about your permanent teeth. This is kind of our
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  Speaker 2: baby teeth, right, and our permanent teeth is wherever we
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  Speaker 2: go for eternity. So you know, obviously we need to
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  Speaker 2: take care of ourselves and build the habits that we're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to. Like you still teach a kid to brush
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  Speaker 2: your teeth and do all that with their baby teeth
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  Speaker 2: to build the habits that they need with their permanent teeth, right,
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of the way I look at it.
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  Speaker 1: But So one thing I think about when I'm down
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  Speaker 1: here with it is, you know, children that die, So
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  Speaker 1: it could be an infant, a one year old or
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  Speaker 1: two year old, three year old. I can't remember. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can't even I can't figure out what my first
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  Speaker 1: memory is, to be honest with you, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I remember sitting at my mom and dad's old house
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  Speaker 1: with a lamp. Was probably free. No, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: one of those images I had. And my parents were
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  Speaker 1: divorced when I was young, so I was always you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know whatever. And everyone would like, see,
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  Speaker 1: you're much more obviously, much more well versed in the
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  Speaker 1: in the scripture, in the Bible and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're two and you die right of some
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  Speaker 1: horrible disease and God takes you in, do you still
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  Speaker 1: develop in the afterlife? Like what I mean is if
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  Speaker 1: I die now and I'm in the afterlife and I
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  Speaker 1: see my mother and my father, we have memories, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: two year old really doesn't just being nurtured, right, So
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  Speaker 1: what if it at all? Like, what would the what
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  Speaker 1: would what's what's the belief and from whether you're in
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  Speaker 1: the womb to you know, seven years old whatever. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care put a number on it, but like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Like that's one of the things I can't
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  Speaker 1: get past in my head, Like it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a live person. They're being nurtured. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: hopefully grow up to be adult one day. But it
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  Speaker 1: gets cut short. Ye, So they don't have kids. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have they don't know. Maybe they might be the firstborn.
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  Speaker 1: There's other brothers they don't know, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 1: how does how do you guys process you guys?
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  Speaker 2: I know that's all right, how do you guys? So
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  Speaker 2: so I would say there's a couple of things, right,
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  Speaker 2: So as far as where's their destination? So the Bible
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  Speaker 2: talks about you have to have faith, and part of
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  Speaker 2: having faith, you know, you have to believe. And the
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  Speaker 2: only way that you can believe in something is understanding that, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm this person, I understand what sin is, right, Because
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  Speaker 2: that's first thing. You got to understand what sin is.
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  Speaker 2: You got to understand that you've sinned. You got to
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  Speaker 2: understand that if you continue on this path or your
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  Speaker 2: ultimate destination as hell. So all those criteria at the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: very beginning would mean that all those kids, they don't
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: know all those things right, they're not at what I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: would call the age of accountability, right, So you know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a bunch of people mad that are
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: listening to this. But Catholicism when they when they you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: say that you should baptize a baby, that's not scriptural.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: There's nowhere in the Bible that says that that does anything.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure why they're publicly dunking a baby.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where that why that's a thing.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: But that being said, a kid doesn't have sin, right,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: you have to be aware of that same thing with
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: somebody who's not mentally capable. You know, there's people that
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: are in their forties and fifties that have the mental
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: capacity of one of those toddlers, right, they have no
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: idea what's going on, so they don't know right or wrong.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: So because of that, you know, not having that awareness,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: they're not accountable to that as far as what happens
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: when they go onto the afterlife. There's not a whole
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: lot of scripture that says what our physical body would be, right, Like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: think about what we would what you and I superficially
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: would deem ugly, right that individual? Are they ugly in
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the form of heaven? So like if they if they're
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a Christian and they die and they go on to heaven,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: are they still ugly? By those I what I would
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: assume from the scripture would be the existence in the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: hereafter is different on a level that we can't comprehend.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Meaning I don't think we would have the memories that
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: we have of what we've done here because like.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Our physical conscience now of what I wouldn't.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Think so because think about this, right, you would have
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: so in heaven, you're not supposed to have sorrow. Okay,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: if we love people that are here and we die,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Let's say today I get out in the car and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I have a massive heart attack, right, yeah, yeah, definitely, Please.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I feel like God still has more for me to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: be accomplish. Yeah, I feel like God still has more
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: for me to do. So I hope that doesn't happen.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: But to your point, if that happens, that happens right
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to me, I would go, Okay, well, you know, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: hope I'm right with God and now I'm you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the scripture says to be absent from the body is
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to be in the presence of the Lord. So my
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: faith would say I'm in the presence of the Lord.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: That being said, it would be sorrowful for me to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: see or to remember all that's happening here and not
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: see them with me in a way that it would
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: be I would be in sorrow, and that's not supposed
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to be a place where we have pain or sorrow, right,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So so one I would say, they can't look down here,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: whoever's passed on, and see what's going on, because they
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: would be like, stress, man, what are you doing when
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: you're screwed it? You know, I don't know why I'm
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: doing that accident here, I guess because of the region.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, a bunch of friends and be like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: what are you doing'll break your nique? But yeah. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: so so I don't think that they can look down
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: here and see what's going on, because that just would
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: be sorrowful as well as well as I wouldn't think
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that they have that. I think that we could probably
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: wreckonognize each other when we're in that state. But anyways,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: but you know, I don't know. I need to do
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: more research. That's part of the reason why I started
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the podcast was one listening to other podcasts. They would
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: misrepresent the scripture the other Christian podcasts and I would
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: be like, well, that's not what that says. And there's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: no call in number like the old days for me
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: to call on the line you know, on radio, right,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: which probably wouldn't get me anywhere. And two, not that
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I know everything about the Bible, because I'm way far.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I know people that know so much. This guy that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: teaches Sunday school class at our church, John is like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: super knowledgeable and he's a genius when it comes to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the Bible, and he knows so much. I'm nowhere near
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: at that level, but it would provoke me to study more. So,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: like the line of the last couple episodes that I've
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: been making here are about Okay, if I talked to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: somebody who doesn't believe in anything, they're an atheist, Well,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: first let's establish, you know, the very beginning is do
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: we think there's a creator? Right, So let's start at
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the beginning. That's where you and I came up with
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the you know, discussion about chaos theory.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So my thought was, if I'm talking to somebody that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: wants to talk because That's another thing I've interacted with
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: people that don't truly want to talk. They want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: they want to start an argument, and I don't want
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to spend my time talking about because there's no arguing
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: in the Bible. It says what it says. You can
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, we can talk about it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Well, isn't there some interpretations of different things?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. The scripture says that it's not of
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: any any specific man's interpretation. So when people say, will
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you take the scripture to say this, but it really
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: means this, well, they're taking their own personal interpretation of it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: If you take the scripture as a whole, my my
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: lipnus test for somebody actually knowing what they're talking about
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: or taking the scripture correctly is if what their take
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: is contradictory to any part of the Bible, then it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: obviously false because the Bible is perfect in the way
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't contradict itself. I'll challenge anybody that's listening
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to your podcast, you can have you can come from
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: any Bible. No but no, no, no, but but there
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: would be people who are usually atheists, yeah, who always
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: want to challenge somebody to be like, what about this
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: scripture and be like, dude, You're.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but that's actually here we go.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't mean that as a hateful way. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: was just like, but but yeah, But it was cool
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: because I like listening. Again. This is what I love
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: about conversations, is I like talking to people and understanding them.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I love about my job. I go to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: different companies, I meet people from all over the country,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: and you know, people say what do you like about
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: your job? I say to people, and they say, what
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: do you hate about your job? And I say the people,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: because you know, you meet some real turns, you know.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: But I won't I won't say who. But yeah, So
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: we got into this conversation. I don't know how it started.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You probably do, because I haven't member.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I probably started it somehow. Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: We were talking about how you basically we're talking about
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: everything's control, right, or there's an order. You come in
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: here as part of the order. You know, those guys
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: pave in the driveway. That made my life miserable the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: last two hours, trying to figure where the you were
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: gonna part right, part of the order, right right, And
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that can change.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: That, right, you were you were, well, so, yeah, I'm
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: gonna say there's so the only yes, I would say,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the only so this is when we got any chast
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I would say, the only chaotic point in the universe
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: is man and that and that's because man has free will.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: So if we were to think of everything else that happens,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: whether if we were thinking of nature, I would even
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: say I would even probably challenge whether or not animals act,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: whether animals have free will quote unquote free will, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: would almost say they act in a way that isn't
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of an order as well. And when they don't act normal,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the behavior it usually from some outside source. Right, they
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: get rabies. So now you know a creature that's normally
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: shy from people is aggressive or something, right, I would believe.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I think that there's an argument. There's not an argument
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to say that there is chaos in the universe period
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: because of the laws that are there. I think it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: an absence of information. So like, for example, if somebody
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: says sees a fire taking over a building, and they
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: say that fire is chaotic, I would say, no, that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: fire is following an order. The problem is we don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: have the data inputs to tell us exactly how that
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: fire is going to behave in every square inch of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it of its path. Right, we may have some information,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you know, like I'm you know, I was born in Indiana,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: but I'm from southern California, from Palmdale, and we get
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: wildfires all the time, and those wildfires, depending on the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: wind and everything will jump a freeway. I mean, it'll
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: go from one side of the mountains to the other.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Times out of ten they can tell where that's going
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to go because of the winds and other factors. They're
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: using data inputs. So I would say the fact that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: we can model where hurricanes are going is because we
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have even more data than we ever did before. We
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: can tell not only where it's going pretty accurately, but
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: then is it going to grow, is it going to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: get powerful, or is it going to get weak from
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the temperature of the waters and all those things. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I would say if we physically could get every single
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: piece of information in the environment around us, we could
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: predict tornadoes, We could predict anything that's about to happen.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But the fact that we don't have those data inputs
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to us we interpret as chaos because we don't really
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: understand all those because all those factors are still being followed,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: see what I mean. And I'm not on drugs.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I did a little research into the chaos theory and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the order and the one thing, well I shouldn't say research.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, well I did research, but I wanted to.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, like pain you with something with chaos,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately the only one I could really think of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: would be the butterfly effect. But that's like on a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: different realm, I think, you know what I mean. That's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: basically you almost have to go back in time to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: see how something would have happened differently. If that happened differently,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and what the you know, the tree of that would
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have would have ended up doing. So that's more of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a time capsule thing. But then I thought, I don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: think humans can comprehend to your point, can even comprehend
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the order like like like you said, we perceived chaos,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like like even if this water bottles falls off the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: table and splashes all my fucking beautiful cards over here,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, are those are all Drake mas? Well?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: That whole row is all the same number. Yeah, that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: pretty sad, isn't it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: No, he he could end up being the goat you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: never know, we thought Matt Castle was but you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: we won't go through that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: But is it just simply too complex for us to comprehend?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, when we had that conversation at work last week,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, you were throwing it back at
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: me pretty good.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Like, well, no, no, no, it seems chaotic, but it's not.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but is that more of a with the universe?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Is that more of a higher power thing?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So that that's what God is that? So that's exactly
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: why I went down that path. My first episode was saying, Okay,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: it takes more faith to believe in the Big Bang
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: than it does in a creator. And the reason would
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: be is typically a person who believes in the Big
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Bang theory is somebody that says science over God, Right,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I believe in the Big Bang theory. Yeah, I don't either.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It doesn't because with the Big Bank theory you'd have
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to leave in some sort of magic. Right, Because in
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the Big Bang theory, it's it's basically saying that there
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: was some heat, which is a form of energy, and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: these particles and the explosion happened, and then that that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: started the chain reaction of the universe. Of everything around us, right,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So where did the heat come from? Because the heat
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: is energy. And what that led me to say was, Okay,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: if you're a man of science and you're believed in
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the Big Bang theory, then one of the laws of
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the law of conservation of energy states that energy is
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: not created or dissipated. Right, It's a closed loop system.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So where did the energy come Because heat is a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: form of energy, where did that come from?
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Right? So so for them to say, oh, well, God
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: didn't create everything, it was a big bank theory. Okay,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: well what kind of kooky magic created this heat? You
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: know what I mean exactly? Well, that's what yeah, Like, like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know, the theory of evolution. I always pointed out
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to people and were like it's fact. I'd like, well,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the hold the name itself is theory. You understand what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the theory is.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It's like this was one of those things. Over the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: course of my life, it was you know, we grew
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: up in science and high school and college, and then
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't really follow anything for ten years. I was
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: just drinking my life away and then all these cool
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: shows came out on TV and it almost like there
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was a little time lapse there and I'm like, wait
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a second, this is like their their gospel. Now these scientists, yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: this Big Bang, it's not a theory to them anymore, right,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: this is what happened. And then I start just at night,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, question it. I'll watched the universe DVDs I
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: have and all this shit, and I'm like, if we're
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: ever expanding, what the fuck are we expanding into? Well?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: What like what? Yeah?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, And I would say this so again to
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: your statement earlier, I don't think that the human brain
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: can comprehend a lot of this. We can't because we
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: would think, imagine we shut the lights off in this
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: room and the universe is in the center, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: say the size of a grapefruit, let's say, or maybe
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: even a basketball, right, and then saying it's ever expanding,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and you're saying, Okay, what is it going to expand into?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: In our mind, it would be actually, it's going to
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: touch the sides of the room, right, But more than
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: likely it would be even in God's creation, it would
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: be that there is no room. It just goes on
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: for an infinite amount, and even infinity is hard for
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: us to comprehend.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Like I.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It would blow a computer up to have it do
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a math problem that and to continue to put on
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the end of the digits that goes on forever.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Like there's no like, there's nothing that's infinite, right, I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: let's keep it to Earth. Okay, there's nothing on Earth
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that's infinite.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: No, No, because with it being a sphere, it's not.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: No. But like there's a gazillion grains of you know, sand, But.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: There's there is a certain number, right, there's there is
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a an end number if if you had enough time,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and there's particles, and absolutely there's a finite It doesn't
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: go on forever.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: But the one thing you could say, would the scientist
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: would say is that the universe is infinite because it's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: expanding or is there still a finite number of things
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: in the universe.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: It's just I don't think they know. For them to say, well,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: for them to say that they know would be false.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I would say what they know is what they can see,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: because anytime they get a more powerful telescope, they find
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: out that there's more past whatever it was. So yeah, so,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: but and then it's gey images, right, who is Geddy
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: and why is he.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Taking a lot of money he supplies a lot of shit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I think Geddy and the Yeddy are hanging out together, right,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: so no I I I. Well, my whole reasoning for
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: for talking about Caster and all that was to say
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that there is order in every bit of the universe,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and because of that order, it would draw you to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: conclude that there's a creator.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: If things were very random, then it would make sense
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to say, well, this wasn't created because it's random. It
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. But the fact that there's order in
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: every bit that we look at to me leads to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: a creator, like an author of a book.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to George Lucas when he's developing Star Wars. Right,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: he created that entire universe, and there's order within the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Star Wars universe quote unquote Star Wars universe because an
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: author sits down and thinks of all these things, right, well,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: we got to have a language for this thing, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: we got to do this and what is this? And
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you know it's not just random like every time you
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: turn around on a movie, there's not some randomness. There's continuity.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it would be a boring story or Disney takes
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: over and then it sucks but I would say that
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: all science constantly proves that there's God, you know what
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I mean. And typically when you find a gap in science,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it's because a man had to assume some sort of factor, right,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: So when they do this theoretical math, they have to
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: assume some sort of number to then start off to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: say X is worth this to do their math.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Like Jurassic Park the movie speaking of movies, when they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: put the frog DNA sequence into the dinosaur DNA right right, Like,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: there was a gap, right, so a scientists filled that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: gap with what maybe they thought might go there or
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: could help their reasoning, right, yep. And that's why all
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: female the way they have no male dinosaurs. But yet
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they laid their own eggs because they had a frog.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Right, it was able to produce it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff Goldbloom scene right.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Him and mister over after himself, right. Yeah. I would
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: say that anytime stuff screwed up, it's because man's interjected themselves.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: And if you leave, yeah, and you know, intentionally or
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: not unintentionally. I think that a lot of times we
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: forget that there is a well. A prime example is
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the fact that we have caused issues in the environment
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that, you know, we should get
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: rid of phos fuels or anything. At What I'm leading
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to is, I don't what we'll say. What we'll do
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: is we'll say mosquitoes are annoying, we need to get
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: rid of mosquitos, or or better yet, we put preservatives
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: in food because we want to be able to produce food,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: say here in Connecticut, and we want to be able
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to ship it halfway across the country so that they
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: can get you know whatever, right, And we add these
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: preservatives to be able to ship it to wherever we need.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: And now a low and behold, we have all kinds
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: of other health ailments because of this thing that we've
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: put in our bodies, which started off with good intention,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: but then it's screwed things up, and it makes you go, well,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: there's a reason why things die out in the time
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that's supposed to corn. We genetically modify corn so that
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: it's drought proof and all this or the other, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: low and behold we find out that just causing health issues. Right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: we've done something with the good intention, but we move
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and mess up the balance of everything, you know what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I mean? And sometimes well not sometimes the balance of
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the universe and the way that God's created it is
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: that things are supposed to die off and become this
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: next thing, right, Like a tree is supposed to you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: or an animal is supposed to eat another animal and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: then you know that carcass decomposes, which then you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: nutrients into the ground and then plants and absolutely, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: when we screw something up, we pull one element out
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: of that whole ecosystem. It causes havoc. You know, we decide,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we create cornfields and then deer grow to
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: be huge and then you know, we hunt the deer
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and then a predator starves or what you know what
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like, we're really bad at screwing stuff up
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: with good intentions a lot of times, sometimes bad intentions.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You think God looks down now. I see a lot
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: online that it's actually starting to make you know, the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: mainstream news outlets about of days and you know, they
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: all points it, you know, the chaos of the world
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: right now and everything is going on and the divide
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in America. I'm like, this has been going on forever.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: God is not looking down now, being like, all right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: we gotta do a hard reset.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Right and I'm not even a true you know, I'm
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: not a believer, but I would have to imagine this power, money, struggle, famine,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: like this shit has been going on for centuries, millenniums.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So I could sit down and I could explain. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: could tell you about like four or five different people.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes when they'll do movies. I'm a huge
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: movie nerd, so I quote movies left and right. Most
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: people look at me funny, but.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: As long as I know the quarterly right, all right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But but you know, I like the movies where they'll
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: follow one person and then they'll skip to the next one.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: They'll follow another one. Was it crash where they do
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that where they fall and then they end up tying
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: together at the very end. Who's in it?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't remember, but literally they follow some
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: guy taking okay, and then it just goes and there's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like five little minute video.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. But but I could probably tell a
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: story of say four different people, and I could explain
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it with enough detail but then being vague enough that
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: somebody and then say where's the sad and when is
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: a sad? And you'd be like, well, this is now,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: this is a person from California, and a person from
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: New York and a person from Tennessee, and that I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: could say, well, actually, those are four individuals in the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Roman Empire around you know, the time around Caligula or whatever.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Right for us to think that all the debauchery and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: all the horrible you know, the murders and things and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and all the divide and the country and all that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: is just now is ridiculous when you go back and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: read the history of the things that was going on, Like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think world, oh, I mean, I don't think
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: we realized that when Jerusalem was overthrown at one point
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: in time, I can't remember what the time for is.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But and it's not in the it's not the Bible
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that talks about this. It's a there's a Jewish historian
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I can't think of his name right now, but he
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: writes a lot of the stuff, and a lot of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: this stuff parallels or proves the Bible. And he's not
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a Christian, this writer that I can't think of him
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: right now, But anyways, he was of that time period.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Jerusalem was surrounded and they decide they're just going to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: starve everybody out. And at that time there was basically
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: factions within the city of Jerusalem of Jews that were
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: fighting each other, and at one point in time they
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: were cannibalizing each other. There was all kinds of horrible
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: stuff going on because the city had been surrounded and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: all that think about horrible that is to where you
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: would eat your your child or whatever, and then go,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that's going that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: horrible to that level. Now, not really.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, my neighbor kicked my Trump flag down right right, yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Some more on the side of the drive. I love
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: there's a video of a dude in a pickup and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he drives over a Trump sign and the person who
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the Trump sign had actually put down a piece of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: wood with nails in it. Yeah, and the guy's like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: just aridyot, I can't believe you did that. And you know, oh, gee,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you ran over his sign and you ran over nails. Moron,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that's what you get. Yeah, But I mean, there's so
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: much stuff that goes on now it's no different. And
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I do think it's great for people to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: think that the end of times is coming because that
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: should hopefully get us to be like, oh crap, I
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: need to do something. You know, I think I think
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: there's two things that cause people to not really dive
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: deep into whether or not they want to become a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Christian or not. And I think the first one is
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I think people look at themselves from
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: an earthly perspective and say, well, I'm a decent person.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And with God, it's either you're his or you're not.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: If you're not his, you're not a good person because
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you're not his, right. I think that's part of it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: First we go, well, I'm not that bad of a person,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: so I don't need to try to become a Christian.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: And the second one is I don't think people believe that,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I could have a massive coronery and direct
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the second don't. I don't unless something shocks your system
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and goes, yeah, like my dad, you know, a few
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: weeks back, he had he went in for stints. He's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: seventy two. He went in for some stints. Come to
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: find out he had to open a heart surgery. And
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: when they went in they were going to do a
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: triple and they ended up having to do a quadruple bypass.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: So you know, I've been this last weekend. I spent
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: in Indiana take care of him, you know, a little bit,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: helping him out. But he didn't expect that to happen.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: He could have sat in a parking lot, which he
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: actually did three days before he went into the hospital.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: He'd sat in the parking lot, was going to go
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: in because he was feeling bad, took a nap and
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: was like, I feel pretty good. I'm driving home. He
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: could he could have died right then, right. I don't
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: think we realized that until something like that happens, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: then we go, man, I should probably figure out where
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: my reservation is after this, you know what I mean,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: until something causes us to really think about that. I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people just sit on the fence
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: because of that, you know, And I totally understand that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: And you can't force somebody to become you know, that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you know, the Muslim religion. They can force people into
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: becoming that, right, you know. But you know, Christianity, it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: all about your faith. You know, there's things that you need,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: there's a plan of salvation, but it starts off with
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: your faith. And if you don't have faith, and you
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and God are the only two people that know whether
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: you have faith or not. You know, that's the one
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: thing about Christianity is I could tell you all day
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: long that I'm a Christian and down inside I could
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: be the most vile person ever and I'm actually doing
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: more work for the devil and being fake, you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and being a hypocrite. This is mean I'm perfect, absolutely not.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I got so much to do back more. You know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I don't pray enough. I don't read enough. I don't
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: There's a million things that I knew need to do better.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Am I tempted? I mean, heck, I travel all the time.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many times. You know, the Steelers
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: are playing in Ireland right now. You know I used
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: to love drinking Guinness or I drink Guinness and Harps.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: You know, a black and tan. You know my buddy
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: who's from Cornwall that I was in the Marine Corps with.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: This is when I got me drinking you know, black
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and tans, back when I was in the Marine Corps.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, or Achillian's read. I mean I used
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to that used to be on my You're a choice,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: No not at no twelve years maybe yeah, yeah, And
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you know I don't say that to be like.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Saturday. Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I don't say that to cast judgment on anybody, just
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: say that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I've had a lot of non drinkers
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: on this show. I'm one of my best friends' Chris.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: We talked about sports.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he was the last yeah, last episode, you
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: guys are right, Yeah yeah.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And he's been sober for fifteen years. You know, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: knew him at his worst moments and they were bad. Yeah,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just alcohol, right, and he just one
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: day cold turkey, just done.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And that's what asked, I mean, with everything, and the
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: person has to decide that. My dad he smoked all
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: my life, and he'd tried different things and stopped for years,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: and then it took him decided he was going to quit.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: You know, that's usually how it works in life.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I've you know. Actually, it's it's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: been good since starting my job. You know, I used
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to all week long just go out, you know, because
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I've worked weekends. But now it's like I'm up so early,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: not even tempted. Really, yeah, you know, so I'm a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: little bit of a weekend warrior. But it's still better
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: than being six nights a week, right, kind of thing
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and right, and the one day it's just that hungover
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: fucking day. Oh yeah, trying to recover and you get
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: nothing done. Yeah, you know, and it's like I still
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: have a couple of those are my Sundays usually, but
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: it's you know, I'll still get some stuff done, but
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it's football now.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Usually after the Patriots lose, then you got to drink
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the sorrows away or whatever I say that. And we
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: were lucky this weekend.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Well you know what, the Patriots lost, but the pit
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: did not win on the scorecard.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. But you know what's funny is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I thought of you because on my Instagram feed there's
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a Steelers fan. For those of y'all
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: are another reason to hate me. They had a thing
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that said that I'm the atheist listeners. No, no, no, no, no,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I'm joking.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I have no idea who you're listener.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I have now consistent listener from It's like Pakistan. I
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: can see GEO located. Yeah yeah I can't. I don't
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: know who they are. Know that I got a download
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: from Pakistan, right, because once they talked about crypto like
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: four years ago, so they probably just cryptot.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: No, that's cool. Yeah, this is a pork free podcast, Pakistan.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I was kidding. No, what I was going to say
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: is on the Instagram feed it had it said that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Tomlin had shown a video supposedly of the guys that fumbled,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Drake May, Stevens.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: And Antonio Gibson.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he showed a video to the team ahead
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of time of them being kind of loose and careless
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: with the ball, which last year we led the league
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in turnover. So it's it's not like it's a off thing.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: It's something we actually try to do, punch it free
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: and everything. So don't feel bad, you know, I don't.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I feel bad because well, Stevenson has had this problem
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and me and my buddy were screaming after the first one,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and then when he fumbled into the end zone, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: went like I didn't see it. So I'm like, nice,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: all right, tiegam, I'll get up. I'm going to the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: kitchen to grab something and come back. And I'm like, fuck,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I miss how did fucker fumble in the end zone?
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: All right? Get him out of there right first? Carrie
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Gibson fumble That was.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Me last week with uh or week before. Yeah, with
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, I was like, what the heck, dude. Yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So I've decided.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: It's the only time I pray Sunday student football.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll say this last you can attribute this last
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: win for the Steelers was the fact that I didn't
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and put my Steeler socks on.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't put on my og TB twelve for all
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: you Patriots fans, the original Terry Bradshaw twelve. And I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: didn't barely watch any of the game.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: So we won.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: So I've determined I need to be a distance fan
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and maybe we'll win some games. See, so like that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: is that is uh, what would you call it? Superstitious? Absolutely,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I did wash my underwear. I didn't say I can't
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: watch my underwear. It's not to a baseball level.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But when I was younger, I was all about that.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: When I was when I used to be a season
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: ticket holder, I'd go to the games all the time.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I had. I had a streak in the mid two
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: thousands where I think I witnessed twenty three straight home
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: wins during the time Brady era nice, you know, including
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: some playoff games and stuff. It was, it was it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like there's nothing. Like I'm one of those pessimist fans,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you know, growing up a Red Sox fan and the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: early Patriots, like, all right, I'm expecting to lose, right, right,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: have my heart ripped out? Right? And there's still were
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: some Tome Brady games where my heart was ripped out, but.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Not usually against the Steelers. No, no, no, but yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: like I just.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Stopped doing that stuff. I'm like I realized in my
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: head that like I get superstition, but like, all right,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: if like what like I think I started getting annoyed
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: when would go to bars and watch games and it'd
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: be like all these cowboy fans are Raiders fans, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: they'd be cheering like they're at the game, and it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: just like I just you know what, I just want
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: to watch my games at home. I don't this is
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: They're not they don't hear you, right, yeah you do.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's so there's this Steelers group in Milford.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: There used to be a bar called Crush. It was
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: a sports bar. It was one of my favorite spots.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Just it got sold and this manager and they closed down,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: but they used to host whenever the Steelers played. That
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was it was a Steeler bar right, and there was
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: this one guy and they think his name is Barry
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and he's like a lawyer. But he would show up
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with like the spiked shoulder pads, face pain to hold
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it in one on and just watch the game like
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: that the whole time. That is wild and they were
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: fifty strong. So they end up bar hopping around.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Now they're uh.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Uh, they're in Stratford now at Jovic's boat Houses right on.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: The Watery Steelers game.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: They'll know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay here next weekend. So I told you
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: my youngest son's buddy plays for the Central Connecticut State
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: with the other one. Yeah, their best friend. Actually, Nico's
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: really close friends with with Evan Carter. Yeah that place
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: with Rangers, but but Nico who's up there, So shout
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: out to Nico Ashley this year, hopefully they'll do well
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: with Central Connecticut State. I'm gonna stay next weekend. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: he's never been in the city, so we're gonna go
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: into the city, him and some of the players. We're
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: all going to go into the city and hang out
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and do some stuff. So yeah, you know, it's my
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: my last weekend before I'm probably down in Troy, Alabama.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: No next weekend and.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Then you're gone for good that Thursday.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, at least unless they have more work they
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: want us to do. We're gonna go down to Troy
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and work in the site. Yeah, which is in the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: middle of freaking nowhere.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, I'm kind of done.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I don't wear my jersey anymore. I mean, I like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I went to Red Sox two weekends ago. Nice nothing.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even have I don't have anything.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: And my girlfriend's like, well, you know, she dressed up
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: with Red Sox shows. I'm like, because the minute that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Crochet strikes out the first guy and I go like this,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: they're gonna know I'm a Red Sox fan. I don't
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: need to prove anything to these people, right, you know, Like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just kind of I just I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I maybe I need the Lord in
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: my life to fucking like spruce me out. No. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: get very excited, I do, Yeah, but I just don't
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: need anyone to question my fandom.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like the question, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: so my outlook on it is no, I know, yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: because my outlook, and it is so the times that
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I've gone to Pittsburgh and seen the games at Well
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: used to be Hinsfield. I hate hate calling it ACTU,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: but at heinz Field, I'm all Steelers up. And I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: don't do that for that other people be like, oh, yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: he's a Steelers fan. I do it because I'm like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I like blending in with the crowd and the environment.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: And then I'm sorry, maybe sweet Caroline at you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and there is cool, but in between the third and
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter when they play Renegade is the most electric
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: thing ever. It's the way I would imagine going to
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: a Virginia Tech game when they play Inner Sandman. The
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: place is. I mean, I get goosebumps now because it's
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it's nothing cooler than having fifty sixty seventy however many,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: you know, if it's Neiland Stadium down the road from
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: where I live in Tennessee, one hundred and some odd
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: thousand people all together with like singing something or whatever,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. That feeling of all that is just amazing,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: So I look at it as more Yeah, there are
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: certain times.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it as blending in, not about
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: proving whether I'm a fan or not. I just feel like, yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: let's get together and Steelers up, you know, or whatever.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It was. God, there's so many games I went to,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: but there was. They were playing the Ravens in the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. They played it back to back years.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: They won. The first year they lost seconds it was
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the first year they won. It's like twenty thirteen, fourteen,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: somewhere in there, and.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: They it was it but have been.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Stephen Tyler or somebody came out and sang the national
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: anthem and just gave a fucking awesome rendition and then
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you could, like the whole stadium started to like buzz
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and you just turned up to your
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: left and there was fucking three bombers, just nice flyover,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and it was just like old yeah, you know, like today, Yeah.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: To get that into patriotism. So my dad for my birthday,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: So for the last two years, my dad's birthday is
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: October twentieth, last two years, I've got Steelers tickets because
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: he lives in Fort Wayne, so we go and he's
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a Colts fan. So Steelers play the Colts. We lost
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: both games. That's the other thing is my superstitition is
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not going with anybody because we always lose when
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I go with some other fan. So we went two years. Well,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: this year he decided for my birthday we'd go to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis five hundred. My birthday is May twenty fifth. Actually,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: when I was born in nineteen seventy five, I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it was unzer Wanted or something or maybe aj Foight
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So so anyway, so he gets tickets. No,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not, well, I'm not an Indy car fan. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: used to be in that car fan back in the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: day because we live right down the road from Bristol
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Motor Speedway. But so we went to the race. It
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool. And when they did the so they
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: had black hawks and they do this Patriot Lap or
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: something like that they call it where the black hawks
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: are flying low and they fly along with the lap
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the practice lab. Oh wow, it is the freaking coolest thing. Yeah,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: every I mean that was like again, that was like,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you know, let's take on some cammies, you know, like
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean, you get that
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: patriotic feeling like you know, let's go. This is awesome,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: you know, but it's pretty cool when the flyover thing,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and then to get the crowd together in one place
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: like that, I mean, that's that's awesome.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Now, in ninety two, I was senior in high school, okay,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and that was kind of when Desert Storm started, yep.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: And I was so patriotic, you know. I was fucking
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: duck tapeing the fucking flags.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: To my little from Toyota four bike two pindos right right, flags.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Were I mean, I just felt the whole country was patriots.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: We hadn't really been at a con licked, No, it'd
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: been that was that televised since vietnaminally, right, I mean
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: there were secret ship going on, but one that was
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: that well known probably a long time yep. And then
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the last kind of like nation coming together I thought
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: was pretty much after nine to eleven. And I remember
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: seeing a commercial. I don't know who did it, but
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: it was just it was like a fifteen second ad.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: It was like a row of you know, typical row
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: of houses you see in like Brooklyn or something, and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: they all had flags out Jets, Giants, Yankees, whatever, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: then nine and then it just goes nine to eleven
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and then they were all American flags. You know. It
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: was it was cool. It was coolfying, Yeah, unifying, kind
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: of commercial. I didn't even know who was for money
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I do for anything, could have been just a P.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: S A or something.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably something, probably, Yeah, And uh, I.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Don't I don't even think a nine to eleven would
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: fucking unite this fucking country at this point.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, so that's the sad thing.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: You and I talked about that right before they started.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I really feel like a lot of the divide is
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: because people don't interact with other people.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm soot about COVID.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think COVID. COVID caused it
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: to where we didn't have the ability to physically interact
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: with people, and the only way we could interact is online.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And nine times out of ten, people interact in an
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: echo chamber. The people of like minded thoughts, right, And
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: when you're interacting with other people, it's easy to say, well,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: we're together, they're the others, they're the enemy, regardless of
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: what the thought process is.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I'm being born in Indiana, kind of middle of the road,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: kind of conservative right there. I go to southern California,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of liberals there, but what's funny is my
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: best friend Eric, who lives in Rancho Santa Margarita in
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: southern California. They're super conservative. When I went out there
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to visit them years ago when Trump was running for
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I think when Biden won. Right on the street corner
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: was this tense that setup that was selling Trump merchandise.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: People were driving honking, but they weren't flipping them off.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: They were like, oh Trump, There are areas all over
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: this country where and I'm friends with some people that
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: are ultraliberal, and friends that are ultra conservative, and friends
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: that are in the middle. And I think that if
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: we had some way that we would interact with people
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: who don't believe the same thing we do politically, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: we understood that they're a person just like I am.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: That's the thing that's troubling about the Charlie Kirk thing
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: is that people are not seeing that a father was
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: murdered in front of his kids, like, forget all the
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: what he said in the past, or whether you like
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: it or not, forget anything.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I showing Charlie Kirk because I followed him before this happened.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Followed him more for his anti like trands and all
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff my stuff. I liked how he
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: argued and brought that conversated table the religious stuff obviously, right,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I wasn't my cup of tea necessarily, But yeah, to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: your point, like, this guy's right in front of millions, Yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, take take Charlie Kirk's name out
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: of it, and say, a father of two young kids
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: with a young wife was murdered in front of a
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: whole public setting. Just take all the rest of it
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: out of it. The whole the whole country should be
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: sad for that, Like people should you.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Know what would happen with that? The right would be
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's that's awful. Yeah, and then the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: left on the next tragedy after that, where the conservatives
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: have a memorial for Charlie Kirkler and say, well, where
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: were you when that happened? Right, That's all they're going
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: to say, right, And that's exactly what happened with Charlie
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: kirk right, right, Because there was a school shooting the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: same day or the day.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Before, Yeah, the Catholic school shooting. Yeah yeah, they're like, well,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: how come you didn't have any mores for that? Like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's plenty of memorials for that absolutely.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Just not televised for someone that's a national vie.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Well, and all the individuals that are saying what they're saying,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: were friends with Charlie Kirk. President Trump was friends with
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, you know, like everybody that was absolutely and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I mean and then and there's even individuals that wouldn't
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: say that they were friends, but they liked the guy,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: like and what's his name? That comedian that has this
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: show on HBO that Bill Maher. Even Bill Maher was like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: this is horrible. What's crazy? Is Bill Maher should be
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: a good example of the fact that he is proof
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that we all have We're all Americans, you know, for
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: the ones that are actual our Americans. We all have
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: a common bond in the fact that we value life
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: for the most part. For those that are pro worship,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: maybe doesn't, but well, their question is when life actually starts.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: But but we value life. We do believe that people
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: should have the ability to live their lives and pursue happiness.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: That we disagree in the ways in which they should
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: go about it, and who should provide that happiness, whether
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: it's the government or yourself but but we still have
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: a level of humanity, and he's a good example. I
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: don't think that there's I would say I would be
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: hard pressed to sit there for two hours and watch
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: any of Bill Maher commentary to find something I aligned
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: with them on. But it doesn't change the fact that
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I'm a human, he's a human. I would not think
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: that it would be right if somebody would decide to
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: murder him, let alone murder him in a public setting
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: like it's. But and I do think that though the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: people who are vocal are the minority, I still think
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: that the majority of the country is not divided. I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: think it's the wackos that are not free.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: And I'll send you this video. Maybe you've seen it before,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: but somebody sent it to me. Actually no, I saw
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it online and it's like this I talked about a
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: little bit I think a couple of weeks ago maybe,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: or maybe I didn't don't regardless, it was like a
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: ex CIA agent or something who was in the SCIOs
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: And long story short, he's basically telling you that what
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you see online is to your point, is so minuscule
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of the people, but they know what's going to get
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: a reaction out of you when you see it, when
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you see that liberal screaming, ah, you know that's the they.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: This is on purpose, right, they They want you to
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: see it to create that divide. And one of the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: things he said that I thought was, you know, I
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: sent it to a friend and he literally he watched it.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: He goes out that it was very powerful. However, I
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: still hate liberals. Part of it. What he said was
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: your neighbor could be liberal and you wouldn't know it, right,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And you go over there for dinner one night, and
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: you guys sit around, and you guys all have the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: same beliefs. You want to provide for your family. You
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: want to see your kids grow, get old, you want
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: to do all that you know, you want to you know,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: own your home and all this stuff, and watch sports
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: and root for the Yankees or Red Sox and have
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: some disagreements about that, not even knowing what who you
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: voted for, what your politics are. And I think that
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: is the majority of the nation. And he goes back
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to You're gonna see some crazy liberal on tip TikTok
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: hug and tiland all pills and it's gonna get three
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: million fucking views. You know why, because there's probably a
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: million of them are fucking bots because they see it like, oh,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: just keep clicking and viewing it, viewing it. It's gonna
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: garner because we want to piss off the right, so
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: they don't care about the right or the left. Right.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: They want chaos.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll bring it back to Kimci how we brought
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: it back around.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: They want chaos?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: They make money on both sides.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Michael Caine and the Dark Knight, right. Yeah, some men
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: just like to just want to I can't do the accent.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: How can like British people talk English like like without
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: accents so fluently.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Because this is the real lens the other way around,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: this is the real length.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Like an idiot trying to talk like a British guy.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But like so many British actions, you don't know the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: British learn in an interview.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Oh I know what's his name? I will see Hall
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Dexter had no idea or maybe he's not, but he
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: does a really good The guy.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: From uh uh, the lead actor from The Walking.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Dead really super British didn't know that the kid from
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: We Are the Miller's that was in whatever he's he's English.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: But the black guy. I never uh he was from
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the wire. Now he's like a movie star. He was
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a man. I heard him talk one damn like, you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me him.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Too, yeah, Colin Farrell, Oh yeah, Yeahlin. Well so it's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: because this is this is the real language. And you
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: know what THEO won one time went on a podcast
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in that English access He's like, oh, you guys in America,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: we call that autism, right, So well, don't take at
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: all right, right, because that'll call it right. That's what
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it was. My mom was pounding tile and all.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I I I believe that one hundred percent. You know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: there are algorithms, and the algorithms are designed to keep
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: you locked into that screen, right, and the algorithm says,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: what did you spend more time on? And it's let's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: give you more of that. So if you spend even
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: a second on some quarter, some crazy video, you're going
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: to get more of that, which is then going to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: feed more views. And that's exactly it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I did it today. I was at work and a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: good friend of mine, he's big lib, love him to death,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: and he posted something about, uh, you know, kids, I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: don't know, kids should be more worried about assault rifles
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: than Thailand. It's like these memes going around, right, And
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I had seen earlier in the day that Thailand All Back,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Thailand All had a Twitter back in twenty seventeen that said,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: we do not recommend you taking Thailand all if you're pregnant.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: So I put that on his page and he like like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: just like just stop already because he has autistic daughter.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, listen, My point is nothing
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: to do with autism, right, My point is you're you're like,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: this is the worst comparison you could come up with,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: is assault rifles to fucking Tiland All, Like come on, Like,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you're just gonna keep going back to the guns that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: first of all, get over it. You're not getting rid
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: of them, like it's just and if you do, who's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: gonna have them? The bad guys you're never gonna get
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: it from them. Even if you took them from them now,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: they're still gonna get them in the future. There's a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: whole trade for that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Well, even before that, so Charlie Kirk, before he passed away, obviously,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: there's a video of him talking to two young girls
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and they're saying thirty thousand kids die of gun violence.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: And he's like, well, first of all, that's incorrect. It's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: not thirty thousand kids. And he said, and the gun
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: violence that are the gun deaths that happen. The majority
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: of those are suicides. But he's like, let's go with
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the math of the thirty thousand gun deaths, right, And
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: he gets them into a corner where he says, Okay,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: you're saying that we should pull these these guns away,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: and we need to take away well not just assault rifles,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: handguns too, And they're like, yeah, we should take away everyone. Well,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: first he says, how are you getting back? But then
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: he says, okay, if thirty thousand people are too many,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand too many, and that's really important. Well, what
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: about the fifty five thousand people that die of car
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: accidents every year? Can we take away the cars? Well? No,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: why you said thirty thousand is as many, and you're
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: saying the guns are attributed to the death Well what
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: about the cars. The cars are as responsible for the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: deaths as the guns are, So why should we get
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: rid of the cars?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Where's the logic? There's never logic in that. The problem
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: is nobody wants to go to the route, which is
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: what I train everybody. How do we get the root cause?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: The root cause is nobody has compassion for mental illness.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Just like we want to say you believe you're they them, great,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: you're a they them. You don't have compassion for that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: person that's having something internally go wrong with them, that
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: they don't feel comfortable in their own skin. And instead
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: of getting to the root of that and helping them
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: with that fact, we just want to reaffirm whatever it
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: is they want to do.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: So to that point, is this where you think maybe
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Charlie goes off or went off the rails, not off
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: the rails, but where his argument about trans like I've
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: seen him talk a lot about it. I think he's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: a very compassion speaker to ye, like he's had a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: bunch of trans or gaze in front of him, right,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and he always calls it a mental illness. It is
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it is, no for sure, Yeah, But what I'm what
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is did he lack compassion in that like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: like you're saying they then like you know I and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: again back to the algorithms on online, when if I'm
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: following something that's anti trans or whatever. Then all these
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: wacky trains are gonna come up and think, I mean,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: there's a fucked up people out there. Oh yeah, but
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I always seem to see the same people that probably
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: have a thousand videos of content. Right, you know what's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I mean? I'm not asking for a solution, but you
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: are the problem solvers. So how do we instill This
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: is almost like how do we undivide the country? But
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: how do we instill compassionate people? Like we don't I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on your head, you know what's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: going on mind, But like, how do we install compassion
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: into the trans community. I don't know if you saw,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: but the LGB distance themselves in the trans community. You
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: see that over the weekend, which I thought was wow.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I kind of like that, Yeah, it shouldn't be. I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: don't know why they're all grouped in the one anyway, Right,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: how do we bridge that? How do we bridge that?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Like you can't just say you got to go to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: a mental institute or you know, like you think you
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: think you're a woman and you want to chop off
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: your body parts.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: All right, yeah, let's turn stay away with the kids.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: That's the first step, right, don't I mean because because
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: a kid doesn't know any better, and for I mean,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: kid will say they're a dinosaur.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: One of the I have my flaws, and one of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: my favorite movies is Stepbrothers. Right, full of profanity, but
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: it's stinking hilarious, right. I remember at the end when
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: he's like, you need to find your inner dinosaur. You
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: know it was improvised, but remember his dad was like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: I would run around the backyard. Nowadays they would say, oh,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: you're a dinosaur, and it would be like, you're a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: t rex. We if there's a surgery to put scales
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: on you and turn you into t rex, I'm going
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: to do that when you're a kid, right, Kids don't know.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Kids are just learning the world and everything around them, right,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: So that's the first step. But I don't have all
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: the solutions, but I would say I'll go back to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer in what I teach, right. You know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I teach Lean essentially right, and a lot of Lean
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: is getting to the root of a problem and eliminating
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: that problem.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: So to me, it's we need to we need to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: as a society learn to get the roots and quit
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: treating symptoms right. Right, So a doctor would always is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: always out there trying to get to the root of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: whatever the problems are. Right. So you know a doctor,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: you come into him and say, hey, doc, I've got
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: this rash, and they're going to go with running through
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: a bunch of tests because they're trying to figure out
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: where did that rash start. Did you change your diet,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: did you change your laundry detergent, did you change your soap,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: your deodorant, whatever. Right, they're trying to get to the root,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: and then they want to eliminate that root. We have
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: to treat it in the same way. Right, we have
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: to go, Okay, something has caused this individual to think
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: that they should be a man when they're in a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: woman's body or vice versa. Right, So let's let's have
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: compassion in saying a person is hurting in terms because
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: they're not comfortable with who they are. Right, it's not
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: because people said you look like a dude when they're
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: a chick. Right, That's that's not really it. Because people
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: could call me all kinds of names. Right, funds overweight,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not either. That's why I've been on a diet.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I've actually lost thirty six pounds in the last few
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: several months that I told her. I was like, what
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: the heck, you know, it's just like the donuts. I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: was like, these are diet donuts, right, It's just like absolutely,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of things that we're not
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: comfortable with. That's why I say a lot of times
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: people don't have that mental resilience to overcome certain things. Right,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: some people have built up enough resilience, you know. I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: got yelled at and called everything else in boot camp
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. So people could call me everything
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't do nothing to me. You can't call
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: me something. I didn't get called by the drill strap, right.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: But when people are like, well, because people always misgender me,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: and it's I've got all these problems and this, that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: and the other, there's something more, there's something further down
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: in the route, right. And I'm not a psychologist, right right,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: the fact that you're growing a beard, right, and then
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you tape your boobs down, you know, but but but
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: I think you know, and and not getting into all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: the psychology parts of it, but but somebody, first of all,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: people have to be right. People, well, people have to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: first of all be encouraged to go talk to somebody. Right,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: we have to get rid of the stigma. I've I've
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: gone through depression, you know a bunch of times. You know,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I'll share something here that I don't normally publicly share.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I tried to take my life twice, tried to overdose
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: at one point. Both times I ended up in the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: hospital and had to have my pump, my stomach pumped.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: The first time it was I I bought. I bought
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: a hundred tablet Talino. I was getting, you know, bombarded
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: with things, felt overwhelmed, didn't have h This was when
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: I was in the Marine Corps, so there was a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: lot of factors. This is where I say, we build
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: up support system that are not good support systems, and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: when that support system's not there, we could become overwhelmed
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and think that the only solution is this. That's exactly
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: what happened to me. The support system that I had
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: built up over the years was such that it wasn't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: available when I felt overwhelmed. So I decided, well, there's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: one hundred time and all take them. I think I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: took eighty of them. Couldn't get enough an inner. Luckily,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I was able to you know I survived both of them, right,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: But both times it was the same thing. And you know, yeah,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: is this a simulation? Yeah? Is this was a sixth sense? Right,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: you're actually the one alive talking to no. So, But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: what I'll say is is what and not to turn
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: it into evangelizing, But the one I always say, the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: one thing when people get off of drugs and people
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: get off anything, when people are depressed, when they turn
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: to I'm gonna do extreme sports or I'm gonna you know,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: do this, or I'm gonna rely on this person to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: be my rock. Right, all of those things could fail.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Right if you jump off a cliff and do base
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: base jumping the next time you need to jump off
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: a higher cliff, or the next time you need to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: climb a tower and jump, right, those short term mechanisms
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: are never enough. There's always something when it comes to God,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: until we die, you're never going to achieve that end result, right,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: So we're always questing for something that will never achieve.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Therefore it'll always be enough, if that makes sense, right.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: So in my case, you know, I tried both those
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: times because I was overwhelmed and my supports, you know,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: was you know, talk to this person or call this person,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: or drink or go do this, And at that time
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do any of those things. So, you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: stupidity says, hey, do this thing. The world would be
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: better without me. So I tried and it didn't work,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: which was great. Second time it was the same scenario, right,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: So I will I'll say all that to say that,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of times the problems that are
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: going on internally with people, we need to one remove
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: the stigma to that to tell people that, hey, you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: you could be the toughest person on earth. You could
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: be the baddest warrior, the most decorated warrior, the best
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Specops Delta operator, whatever in the world, and your brain
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: can break right and if you need help, you go
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: ask for help. The machismo part of you know, well,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: you know, if I'm depressed, what do I do? I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: suck it up and I do whatever else. Well, eventually
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: you get overwhelmed. So yeah, that's fine for a short
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: term solution. You know, I've got to press forward. The
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: weight of bills and everything else in my family is overwhelming.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Right now. I can't show my family that I feel
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: a little hopeless. Right now, I need to be the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: rock for them, So I push it all down. I'm
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the rock for them, and then when I walk away,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: I break down, right and go, how do I deal
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: with this?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: We have to make sure that one the support system
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: is there in our country for people at any given
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: time to call this hotline to go to get free counseling.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: If anything, I'm not a fan of socialized medicine. If
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: there was something that would make sense, it would be
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: a circuit of whatever they are psychologist ors, not the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: ones the rite prescriptions, because I think that's a bunch
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: of bull crap. As well, the people that sit down
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: and talk to you and help you work stuff out,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: because sometimes just a conversation. You know, I for a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: while there, I was going through some stuff and the
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: VA had somebody for me to talk to, and every
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: week we'd talk and it made a huge difference, right,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: The person didn't judge of just listening to what I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: was telling them. And you know, part of it is
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: me being a marine, you know, I always felt like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: those two things that happened were I was a lesser
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: marine because I wasn't able to function the way I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: was supposed to. Like the reason they yell at you
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: and do all these things. Is to toughen you up
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: so that when chaos is happening around you because of man,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: not because of the lead over, when chaos has happening
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: around you, you get laser focused on mission accomplishment. You
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: push everything aside. You know, you're not stressed out, You're
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: not this side or the other to the level that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: you need to to accomplish the mission. Right. So when
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not even in a combat situation and my brain
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: breaks because I'm overwhelmed, and I you know, you know,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: for years I felt like, well I was flawed. I'm
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: a lesser marine than the guy to me who didn't
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: have that problem. Right, And it comes down to there
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: being a stigma socially for us to not realize that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: that's a part of your body that can break. No
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: matter how much you work out, no matter what you do,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: it's part. It can break. As a Christian, it can break.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I still get overwhelmed. The difference is is I can
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: go to the Bible and I can read, and after
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: a little bit of time, I go, okay, well, you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: know absolutely, you know, I'll pull it up just anywhere
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: and I'll start reading the scripture, and as I read through,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I don't read, just read randomly and let those thoughts
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: continue to linger. I read and I'm trying to comprehend,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: and one it gets me some space from whatever it
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: was it was stress me, and then I could take
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: a minute and go, Okay, what's going on? All right?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: What are the solutions? And sometimes I get to a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: point where I'm like, I don't know there's a solution.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: So I go to prayer and I say, all right, God,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: I've done everything I'm supposed to do. You know, I've
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I've you know, worke to try to pay this bill,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: or I've done this, or I've said this, or I've
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: reached out to this person or whatever the situation is.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I've done as much as I can. You know, I'm
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: not sitting in my chair going God provide me with
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: food and everything else right now. I'm going to give
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: it to you. And whatever the solution is, I know
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: you'll come up with the right solution that's best for me,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: not what I think is best, but you knowing what
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: really is best in the time that makes sense, and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: it's always worked. You know, I'm one hundred percent the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: job that I have now you know the guy that
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I'm working with, Jorge, the reason I started working So
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: him and I work together. The very first consulting gig
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I had in Mexico. So I had gotten let go
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: of my job. I was a CI manager for a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: company that was a three pl all over the country
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: and I had just started the job. I'd been there
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: my six or seven months. They religned the company and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: the new vice president goes, why do I have this
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: CI manager? We just put crap in boxes and ship
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: it out. We don't need to do that. Let's eliminate
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: that position. Well, that's the first time I've been loco
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: from a job. So I show up at lunchtime and
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, go home, pack your stuff. We're your
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: eliminating your job. I was like, So, I got like
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: two weeks and they're like, no, you go home right now.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh crap, what do I do? So
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: on the drive home, I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: donate plasma, which I've done over the years. I've been
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: the type of person that whatever it takes to pay
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: to take care of the family, I do whatever, right,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna donate plasma. That'll be
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: forty bucks, you know, or thirty bucks or whatever. I'm
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: gonna go to the temp services be like, hey, whatever
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: you got, I'm gonna do it. And then and not
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: tell my wife right off the bat, because she is
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: the most like, oh lord, we're gonna you know. She
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: she like blows everything so so and then I let her,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: you know know. I was like, all right, but I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: got some stuff working, you know. And then I call
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: my former boss and I go, Hey, wherever you need
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: to send me in this country, I'll go I need
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: to pay bills, I need to work. I don't have
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: anything for you, man. I was like really, and he goes, yeah,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: but call this number. These people do consulting. I know,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: when you work for me, you have the same training
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: I do. You have the experience they'll be able to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: use you. So I contact them. The guy who's now
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: with the company I'm with now contracting with calls me up,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: not Jorge, but this other guy that's a VP of
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: the company, Keith, and Keith goes, all right, what do
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: you know about cast aluminum wheels? I go, well, I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: was a CENC machinist at a company that made them.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Right after the Marine Corps. That was my first job.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: He goes, great, he goes, do you have a passport?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: And I go, oh no, and he goes can you
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: get one? And I go yeah, and he goes, I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: need you on a plane Monday in Chihuaha, Mexico. It's like,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: oh crap, this is a Wednesday. So I drive to Atlanta.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: It's like five hour drive from my house. Yeah, so
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I get that. And not only that, the drive was
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: horrible because if you remember, some literal crackheads started a
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: fire under a part of the freeway there on the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: way to Atlanta and it collapsed. This is like ten
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: years ago, nine years ago, so the drive was way longer.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so I get that job and I'm down there.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: And not only that, but in consulting, when you're a contractor,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: you pay for your own expenses and then they reimburse
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: you thirty days. Right, well, plane ticket, hotel, car, food.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Theoretically you can have about twelve hundred dollars or more
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: every week and four weeks. Right, So now you're several
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: grand Right, I just thought I lost my job, you know,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't. We weren't the best with money, so
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: we were paycheck to paycheck. So when it give me
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: this gig, I was like, hey, I can't pay for everything,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: so like, all right, we'll pay for everything for the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: first couple of months until you get a couple of
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: checks and then you take over. That was all I'm
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent believe, you know. I was praying, going,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: all right, God, I've done everything I'm supposed to. I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: went donated, I did this, I did that. Now what
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: do I do? And he said, all right, there you go,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: and and he provided it for me, you know. And
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: every time I felt overwhelmed, like things are not happening,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: I read, I pray, I take a minute, say did
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: I do everything I can do? You know, In a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: lot of times, I put myself in the position, you know, like, hey,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: we're short on bills. Well it's because I went and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: paid for new flooring in this you know room, and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: now I'm short on this and I because I didn't
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: think of this bill coming or whatever. And it's my fault,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: you know. And we know that just like our kids, right,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: if our kids get into an overwhelming situation, you know,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: make sure they acknowledge it. But then we take care
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: of him because we're good fathers, right or we try
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: to be right, and he's the ultimate father. So yeah,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: it's faith that's been reinforced multiple times, but it's not
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: without its anxiety. I mean, he doesn't always take care
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: of everything immediately. So in the meantime, I'm going, this
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: is getting down to the I got ten seconds to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: pay this bill, or I'm you know, I'm homeless or something.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a little extreme, but you know, he'll he'll
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: push you to the limit, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: But I think a lot of it is again we
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: have to take away the stigma around mental issues. Let's say, yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: well everything everything, but anyways, but yeah, I just feel
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: like I feel like it's a lot of it. So
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: like I agree with you know, you're like Oprah. I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: just shared something. I didn't cry, but you know every
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: time somebody sits on Oprah's couch, they just spill their guts.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: So you're the Oprah of Connecticut. Yeah, I mean, like.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things like I think where
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you're like where you're working with us, you know, it's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: it's it's condensed and you get a lot of different
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: people there and you're trying to you know, you can
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: break them into small groups, but how do you how
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: do you do it on a three hundred million people
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: in a country that are split pretty much right down
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: the middle. And I say this to everyone who comes
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: to politics. It all starts locally. Oh yeah, you know,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: all of it. So it's grassroots campaigns, it's all that stuff.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where this kind of thing needs
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: to start, you know. I I I there was. I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Madison. It's up the up the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: road a little bit and it's pretty pretty wealthy town.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a wealthy one in it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: But you know, somebody's got away mindles right.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Somebody that was that was that was a track coach
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: at Yale and whatever. So I followed there's a Facebook page,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: so somebody to posted like three weeks ago about and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: they've been doing this a lot, this pride fest stuff.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously June was their month. And I'm not
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: here to disparage any of this stuff, but this one
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: kind of like irks me a little bit. And they
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: had what I think it was. I think it was
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: just last Saturday, but they had one and it was
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: a big banner and it was like calling all kids
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: and I already know they have like this, Uh what
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: do you call it? The people that the guys that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: dress up? Oh drag drag sh Sorry see if I'm drinking,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I fucking rowing ship.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: And bowling anymore because I used to be good when
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I had to drink a little bit, I sucked now.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: So uh, what are they're calling all kids for a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: bubble blowing contest? You know? And then they have a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: drag show and all this other ship. It's gonna be
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: a great day, blah blah blah. So I just click
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: on the comments and some many wrote, uh something about
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: like the drag show and kids, and I go and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I wrote under his what about the quotations calling all kids?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Part like really or something?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know when I wrote it, grooming old kids?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, sorry Fred and slip.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: So within like three minutes, I get a DM from
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: like the page director that says he's calling the cops
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: on me and I'm a pervert and all this ship and.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, who's the ones wanting to do a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: bubble blowing contest with kids as they're dressed up as whatever?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Right? So I'm just like and then like some other
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: people were like, this is where I fear, like, this
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: is a whole other topic. But you can go on
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Twitter people, it doesn't matter on both sides. But I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: feel like Facebook when you have your set of friends
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: where other people are like afraid to chime in. And
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: there were a few people that were like, well, this
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: guy's not what he meant. He's like, what are you
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: guys doing here? But if God forbid you say something
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: against the gay Pride event, but I post one trump
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: mean and it should have fucking flooded with the fascist,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: nazi hit or motherfucker blah blah blah whatever. And that's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: the rhetoric that we face in this country right now,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: just the shooting today, a lot of the I mean it,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: it's a playbook though, and we both read it the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: same way. The right's gonna say, oh, it's because AOC
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: said this and blah blah blah blah, and he's hitler
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: and a fascist, and then you know the left is
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, well, you know they shouldn't
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: be taken. You know. It was just like, all right,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of done with it, Like how do we
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: get to the root of this? And to me, I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: think it's an impossible task, but for someone like you
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: who actually does this on a smaller scale, on a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: daily basis, could maybe head something up like I. When
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: my father passed away, I discovered that he was scammed
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: out of tens of thousands of dollars. That's horrible from
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: people will never find on this planet. And my father
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: was seventy nine years old. And it's weird with me,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: like I was so gung ho to start something to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: educate the elderly onto not getting scammed. I literally it.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: My acronym was called scam and it was It dawned
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: on me one night and I still might do it.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I'd just been so fucking busy. But it was Senior
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Citizens' Awareness movement. It was where it came. And my
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: brother was all gone ho too, and he got busy,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: and it's it's I just kind of tabled it parking lot.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I put in the parking lot, you know, And it's
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: still something. I think I'm not necessarily going to do
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: it in the next five years, but it's it's there,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Still see, wait too long, you'll be the senior citizen.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Well I've been, I've been. Why have my event? I've
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: never been scammed, but I've had my identity stolen at
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: a fucking gas station. You know. So these these fucking
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: creeps are everywhere. I'm getting off base, but like I
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: just I brought that up because like I could see
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: someone like you, like all right, like you know, as
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: a side hobby, let's start something in my hometown and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: and see where it could blossom to and try to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: get these people to help they need. You know, I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: have some people. It's right behind, he says, keeping Milford warm.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it started at Milford. Basically, they pay your
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: electrical build for heat, they'll fill your oil tank, they'll
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: pay your gas bill in the months if you struggle.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean they vet you a little bit, but not
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: that much, right, And when they first came on, we
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: you know, they've expanded to Stratford and and you know
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: in west Haven and some area towns and they have
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: their own charters and stuff. I could see a guy
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: like you doing something like that. They start and small
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: and just you know, and helping your community first, and
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: you take off. I mean obviously you need the resources,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: you need the people that are willing to do it
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: pro bono.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Almost yeah, I feel like, yeah, it would it would
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: almost have to be some sort of charity. So the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: problem with me doing something like that is it would
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: be viewed as, oh, well, it's ano they're Christian out
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: there trying to convert people. What would make more sense
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: to me is if we could find somebody who is
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: generic enough that nobody attributes them to something politically, who
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: could unite both sides to start that kind of a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: movement to say that, you know, this is Middle America, right,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: meaning it's this we're all meeting in the middle, right,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: and and this organization is all about helping people with
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: any kind of mental issues, not even mental illness right,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: mental issues period. And then starting a network of kind
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: of like you know, there's the network of lawyers. I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: can't remember what it is because and they'll you can
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: get advice and all that stuff. Yeah, if it's if
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: it was something like that, you know, and then and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: not funded by any like drug companies or it's all
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: it's all about, you know, And and I would I
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: would love to be able to teach people that again,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: if everybody could get if everybody could get used to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: getting root cause, like if I could start a movement
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: of people going because it's a comply to anything in
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: life again. I you know, even though I do this
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: for businesses as a living. You know, my other podcast
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: that I'm getting ready to start is called the Lean Marine,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: because there's already lean marine out there. It's something with
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: boat engines or something like that, but the Lean Marine,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: and it's about it's just play on words, but it's
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: basically teaching lean to other to small businesses, right because
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the things that we're learning in your company, huge businesses
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: pay for us, right because we're not cheap.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: But the mom and pop shop down the road that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Moe's Lawns, or the guy that owns a food truck
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: or all those lean principles apply to their business too,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: and they should be able to learn that too.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: But but if if everybody can apply getting root cause
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: right in everything, right, if everybody would think of problems
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: as how do I get the root cause? And then
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: what's the countermeasure to fix it?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: I think that would start the mentality of people thinking
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: of every problem from that perspective, and then it's not
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: about Liberals usually want to assign responsibility to somebody other
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: than the person who's really responsible, and Republicans always want
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: to say Okay, it's this person or that person, right,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm you know, conservative, but and I'm
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: using generality. It's not everybody that way. But if everybody
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: got into the mentality of let's get the root cause
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: and let's come up with a solution, then we would
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: start a thought process that would say, Okay, there's a shooting.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: What was the root cause? Well, it was this person
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: was saying this and that about this Catholic school or
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: the school that happened where the trans person shot up
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: in Nashville. I think it was right, and it would
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: lead us all down a path to go, Okay, what
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: started this chain reaction? What started you know, the chain
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: reaction that happened in Columbine, right, what started the one
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: nearby here? And yeah, we would always be going, what's
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: the root cause? What's the root cause of some terrorist
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: activity or whatever?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: And then it would be well, how do we solve
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: that problem? It would get away from the politics of it.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: It would get away from and I feel like if
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: I was the one orchestrating that, it would still be
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: attributed to my faith, which is fine. I don't have
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: a problem with people saying, where you're doing this because
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: of your faith. Honestly, that's it. It's the reason why
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: I do my podcast. That's the reason why I wanted
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: to do the other podcast, Yeah, the Lean Marine. You know,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm going to tie it
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: into is to say, Okay, whether you believe it or not,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: God's blessed you with what you have. You know, when
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: you become a Christian, then you know everything comes from God, right,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: and because He's blessed you with what you have, you
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: have an obligation to optimize what it is he's blessed
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: you with. You know, in the Bible there's a parable
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: of the talents and it's three different people. The masters
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: leaving and he gives and talents was money back then, right?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: He gives one talent to one person, two talents to another,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: and five to another. When they come back, the person
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: with one talent had buried it in the ground because
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: he was afraid to lose it, he gives them back
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: the one person with two had doubled it, person with
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: five had doubled it. Well, he was happy with the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: two that had doubled theirs. The one that buried it
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: he was unhappy with because he was like, what did
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: you do with it. A lot of people will attribute
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: that to your actual talents. They'll say, you know, God's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: blessed you with talents, you need to do stuff, and
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: he'll bless you with more whatever. I always attribute that
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: to us as Christians going out and getting other people
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: to become Christians. And basically the root of that story
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: or the moral of that story is to say that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: if you're going out actively trying to bring, whether you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: bring one person to Christ or ten people to Christ,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: he's happy because you did something with it. You didn't
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: bury it in you and saying, you know, I can't
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: be a part of the world or I'm gonna lose
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: my faith. You're right, I'm gonna I'm gonna be sucked
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: into you know, going to the drag show or whatever
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, right, you know, anyways, I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: we've been all all over the all over the place.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Well we've been almost an hour and a half. Really, yeah,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna wrap it. You know. I always do
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: the week at the end of the show, gotcha, So
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: this week it none under than myself.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Really, hear me out. Okay, Monday, I get home from work.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I've never nominated myself through to the week. Monday, I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: get home kind of relatively early two thirty. I usually
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: have this at least in my back pocket at all times. Well,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: it happened to put it up on my deck that
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: plays music through the bluetooth speakers. And I'm just dicking
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: around the yard tightening up the pool. I just closed
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: doing some stuff in the garage playing music. I don't
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: really it's on silent. I don't hear text message is
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: nothing for a good hour and a half. So it's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: like four o'clock. Grab my phone. Oh shit, I got
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: some mismassages. You know what's going on? Well, Monday food
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Fighters announced that they were going to have a pop
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: up show in new Haven, Connecticut at Toad's place last night.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: No way, So my friends were texting me, Yo, we're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: going down to New Haven. Come meet us there. There's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: a line forming if we get in line. Now. This
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: was at I got home around two thirty, like two
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: thirty one, like I swear to God, like right when
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I put my phone down, they started texting me.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: You've had my phone. You could have texted me too. Yeah,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: so far you've got my vote.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: H yeah, no, absolutely, So I'm like, I'm like, what
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: the fuck. So my other buddy, Michael's like yo, and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: he's showed me the wristband he's got in line, and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: then he showed me the line. I'm like and then
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the toast place is not big, and I'm like, there's
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: no way you fucking getting in, and he text me
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: back He's like, I just found out. So this is
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: how it went down. They posted something online. I'm not
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: sure who released it, but it was a poster on
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: a Facebook page and it was cash only, no credit card,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: no nothing. I think it was cash only. Maybe you
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: can pay, No, you pay my credit card. It was.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: They were selling four hundred and fifty lots of two tickets,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: so nine hundred people, which is probably past capacity at
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: this place, right, and you had to get in line
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: and get a wristband. So his wristband was like too something.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: So he's in. He's fucking golden. I'm like, motherfucker. Now
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: he starts seeing my boss from stone Bridge. He got
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: a call, he got in, and all these people are
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: getting in. I'm just like, I know, if I get
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: off my ass now, it's too fucking late. I mean
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: four fifty goals like that. So all these guys get in.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: You know how much tickets were? I said to him,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't care if there are a thousand
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: dollars you got. It's just one of those lifetime events you.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: Gotta fucking do and an intimate setting like setting. Absolutely,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: I'll show you a video of how close this shit is.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: Uh thirty dollars a ticket, No way.
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  Speaker 1: So nine hundred tickets sold for thirty dollars twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's that's about the price of my buddy joby.
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  Speaker 2: You remember I told you friends with the rapper after
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: the man, Yeah, it's about the price of most of
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: his take.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is food is food fighters soutes Foo
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: fighters who fighters.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know any of the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: history of Toad's Place. It all right, not from around here,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: but it's a little local venue of downtown New Haven.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: It's been around for decades. Their biggest claim to fame
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: was the Rolling Stones, and like I think it was
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: in high school nineteen ninety one or nineteen ninety. They've
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: had some, you know, very formidable acts over the years,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: but nothing crazy because it's just not that big of
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: a place right right, and the Rolling Stones was unannounced.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: You had to be in the inn. You had to
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: know people, you had to you know. It was like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: fucking President of Yale's going you know what I mean,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: like one of those kinds of concerts. So anyway, so
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: last night I'm sitting home and I'm like, I can't
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: do it. I can't go on Facebook right now because
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I probably know fucking fifty people that are there. Can't
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: do it. Can't do it, Like right before I go
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: to bed, I click on it. Fuck, I shut it
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: right off. I just see how close one of my
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: buddies is. I'm like, motherfucker big ff on the stage.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: So today I woke up this morning, I get to
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: work and it's like lunch break. I'm like, all right,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: let me look, and I'm just like I am a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: fucking douche for just how.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Did I not know?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: How did I the one time I really don't like
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: have my phone pinging me for a text? Yeah, just
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: get all the kind of right long day work. It's
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: kind of released, and I'm just like, motherfucker. Now. I
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: saw the band live there really kind of a last
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: minute show back in the that was like ninety five,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: ninety six.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Nice. So this would have been after right after Nirvana days.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, and uh it was. It was
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: I one of those things. I was right place, right time,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: and this one I wasn't. And now I love food fighters.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not like I've seen him all. I saw a
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: city field in New York when when he broke his
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: leg and he was like drumming from Oh yeah, that
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: It was off.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I don't really like toads because I hate the fucking
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: crowds like that. You can't even get it. Not that
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: I would have been bombed or anything, but it was
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: last night, but you can't just can't do anything right, right,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Let's stay in there for three fucking hours. I heard
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: they played for a really long time.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm guessing so they're doing these pop up shows.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: This is like the third one. I think they did
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: one in DC, one in New York. I don't know
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: if they're heading up the Boston Way. I guess that's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: the route they're doing. I don't know if it's kind
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: of a let's get back and the graces of our
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: fans kind of thing, right, you know, my wife and whatever,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Who knows who cares? I wish I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, the weak from missing out on this show.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I should have been there at least at least tried
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: if I if I know two thirty one I was
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: getting in my card right.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now, so you're telling me that not one of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: your friends would have said since you could get two tickets. Hey, dude,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: I gotta no.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not. No, that's a small I mean if my
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: best friend, like you know, a couple of them, but
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: they weren't down there.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the people that contacted you weren't like no.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: They're like you want to go? No, no, no, no, no,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: none of those guys. I mean they're all good friends
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: of mine, but no, I already know, like no they
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: have that ticket mark for I gotcha, either their significant
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: other or they're real Yeah you know what I mean, Like,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that from anybody. Yeah, you know, fuck
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: y'all for not doing it. Well, I texted me.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Then, you know, Yeah, yeah they tried.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I try, but yeah, I had a few
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: friends text me my motherfucker, and I'm telling my girlfriend
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: she got home. I'm like, you know, food Fighters are
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: in tomorrow night.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Did she say that you were a douche as well
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: about it?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: She's not a big fan like that, you know, she
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: likes all that other ship you know, I don't know,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: but yeah, anyway, so yeah, so this is the four
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: and a half years in and I'm finally a douche
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: of the week.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I know. It's not a bad streak.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's a good streak. And it's not
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: really like I didn't do anything bad.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: It's a douche moment.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, Yeah, I'll miss that ship.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it'd be kind of like if you went
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: out and bought a Honda Ridge Ridgeline pickup truck to
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: drive around. Yeah yeah to me, that's yeah. To me,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: you're either old, you're a woman, or you sit down
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: to pee if you own a Honda Ridge Line. So okay,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: I just insulted a bunch of people.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Probably I don't know anyone with a Honda Ridge Line.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna have some weird thoughts, all right, Aaron, Hey,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on. Thank you. We never
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: touched on flat Earth, and I did that on purpose. No,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I did on purpose because I want to make a
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: whole show about that.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, because you with you, you got your Canadian friends.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's in Connecticut now, but I don't know if
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: he'll be back up in this area, but I do
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: zoom ones.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. We definitely need to stay in touch.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: And I want to get down to Neeland Stadium at
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: some point.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: You let me know that, or if you want to
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: go to a night race NASCAR, my nephew works. It's
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: a track, so I can hook you up or drag
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: races whatever.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: All right, perfect. I got friends that live out there
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: too that we're from here.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Cool. I think there.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: They might be in Bristol actually.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Really you are right, yeah, Johnson City right next to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: it there.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: I know they go to Tennessee games and there's he
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: runs Drake's.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know the rest restaurant chain. Absolutely, like one
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Fucking vps of that nice.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come down there with that area. Yeah, if
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you come down and hang out with him, we'll go
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: hang out in some places. Yeah. Have the real Southern accent, right, yeah,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: not the fake one like me, because I'm a transplant. Yeah,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: trans plant, yes, yes, all right, I will see.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: You tomorrow at work. We've got a big meeting tomorrow.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: We're starting to wrap up our little p mts and stuff.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: That we've got going on.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: But not to talk about work. But thanks again, and uh,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a fun conversation. I can't wait
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: till you start your lean one because I think that's
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: you say for small business. I think it's a good
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: thing for life to be honest, absolutely trying to manage
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: some of your stuff in life.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, set goals, you know, things absolutely going that day,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Like we got.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: To put a whiteboard on the wall, and just like
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: things we want to accomplished. Being a homeowner sucks, so.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: You know, hard to apply in the house. No, but
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: don't try to go home and do success. Your girlfriend
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: will throw you out.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: But like what I mean is like almost like the
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: parking lot thing, Like all right, yes, I want to
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: convert the garage into a bar, but there's ten things
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: I have to do to get that being done. So
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: we have a two year goal. You know, I've already
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: done the patio outside. Next thing is cutting out the
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: window and putting the bar out, you know, the next
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: and I already got the fridge in there.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: You know, just little things and just you know, absolutely
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: it's awesome, but it sucks.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, pal, We'll see you tomorrow and
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: we'll obviously keep in touch.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you, God bless, God bless