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UFO Displays: Seven Strange Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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Speaker 1: this episode, UFO Displays, Seven Strange Sightings. As a general rule,
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Speaker 1: UFOs are evasive. Those sightings are usually brief, often quite distant,
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Speaker 1: and off they go on their way. You can't just
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Speaker 1: go outside at any given time and see a UFO. However,
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Speaker 1: On other occasions, this type of behavior makes a 180-degree turnaround,
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Speaker 1: and UFOs behave in a way that can only be
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Speaker 1: called a display, where they brazenly show themselves as if
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Speaker 1: wanting to be seen. In fact, I think that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what they are doing. They want us to know about them.
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of cases like this. I want
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Speaker 1: to present seven cases in this episode that I've personally
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Speaker 1: investigated where UFOs show this type of brazen, showing-off behavior,
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Speaker 1: putting on a display. I think these cases are not
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Speaker 1: only interesting in that regard, but also have some other
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Speaker 1: interesting elements that provide information about the nature of the
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Speaker 1: UFO phenomenon. So that's why I wanted to do this
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Speaker 1: episode for you today. These cases stretch back decades, all
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Speaker 1: the way up to current times, and I think you'll
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Speaker 1: find them quite interesting. I certainly hope so. At any rate,
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Speaker 1: let's just get started. And the first case I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about I call a Boy Scout UFO encounter.
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Speaker 1: This case is really interesting because it occurred in 1945.
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Speaker 1: This is before Roswell, before the modern age of UFOs.
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Speaker 1: And it occurred to a group of Boy Scouts who
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Speaker 1: were camping out in California at Mount Baden-Powell. This is
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Speaker 1: a national forest area, and the main witness is a
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Speaker 1: gentleman I used to work with by the name of
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Speaker 1: Joe Stein. As a little boy, he was out with
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Speaker 1: a group of about 20 other young Boy Scouts when
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Speaker 1: everyone woke up to view a dramatic UFO display. And
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Speaker 1: I'll just let Joe describe their sighting in his own words.
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Speaker 1: As he says, I remember waking up and looking out,
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Speaker 1: and on the horizon, I saw these three lights. I
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Speaker 1: think they were somewhat stationary. I don't remember them moving
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Speaker 1: from one area to another. The first thing I thought was,
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Speaker 1: what are those lights doing there? If I remember correctly,
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Speaker 1: they weren't that far. But the thing that bothered me
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Speaker 1: more than anything was the distance between the lights. In
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Speaker 1: other words, it was a large something. Whatever it was,
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Speaker 1: it was not small. They were bright enough that I
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Speaker 1: knew there were three different colors. I remember there was
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Speaker 1: a variety of colors. So Joe estimates that this object
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Speaker 1: was about a half mile away. He and his fellow
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Speaker 1: Boy Scouts watched it for about 20 minutes. And they
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Speaker 1: never saw it move. There was no sound. And at
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Speaker 1: some point, they went to bed. Of course, they investigated
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Speaker 1: to see if there was any structures in the area,
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Speaker 1: which there was not. this was a wilderness area and
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Speaker 1: none of them were able to figure out what this
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Speaker 1: thing was at that time there wasn't much talk of
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Speaker 1: UFOs really at all so they didn't have any theories
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Speaker 1: until later when the subject of UFOs became more popular
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Speaker 1: it's a very interesting sighting not only because it's a
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Speaker 1: multi-witness sighting but it involves a very large apparently structured
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Speaker 1: object and it's a very long sighting and typical of
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Speaker 1: these sort of cases in which UFOs appear to want
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Speaker 1: to be seen. So that's the first case I'd like
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Speaker 1: to present, but there are others. Here's another case which
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Speaker 1: I call the Blue Ridge Parkway Sighting. This occurred in 1954,
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Speaker 1: and the main witness I call Bob, that is his
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Speaker 1: real name, but he did not want his last name
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Speaker 1: He's currently a musician and a magazine article writer. And
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Speaker 1: as a young kid around age eight, he had an
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Speaker 1: incredible sighting while driving with his parents along the Blue
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Speaker 1: Ridge Parkway in central Virginia. It was daytime. They're cruising
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Speaker 1: along the highway. His parents are deeply involved in a discussion.
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Speaker 1: And Bob is sitting in the back seat. And looking
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Speaker 1: outside his window, he sees an enormous bright silver disc-shaped
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Speaker 1: craft pacing his car high up in the sky, moving
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Speaker 1: in and out of the clouds. And again, I'll just
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Speaker 1: let Bob describe in his own words what he saw.
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Speaker 1: As he says, I was riding in the backseat of
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Speaker 1: the car. I was with my parents, and I looked up,
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Speaker 1: and I saw a large disc going through the clouds.
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Speaker 1: It was just scattered clouds, but it was going in
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Speaker 1: and out of the clouds. It would come out, you'd
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Speaker 1: see a large disk, and it would enter into a cloud.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't above or below it, it would go through it.
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Speaker 1: And it was easily the size of our 747s. It
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Speaker 1: was fast, roughly the same speed as a jet fighter.
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Speaker 1: A silver-colored, aluminum-colored disk. It was way up there. I
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Speaker 1: tried to get them to see it. I pointed, and
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Speaker 1: I got in a lot of trouble for interrupting their conversation.
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Speaker 1: And they yelled at me for that. About 15 minutes later,
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Speaker 1: when they got through talking, they turned around and said, Okay,
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Speaker 1: now what was it you had to say that was
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Speaker 1: so important? Of course, it was gone by then, and
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Speaker 1: even at age 8, I knew better than to say
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Speaker 1: it was a flying saucer, because then I'd really get
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Speaker 1: in trouble. But it was there. I really saw it.
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Speaker 1: I can't say what I saw. It was a disc.
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Speaker 1: It was a very large disc. It was not my imagination.
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Speaker 1: So this is another very interesting daylight sighting. He saw
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Speaker 1: it for a good minute or two. And it was
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Speaker 1: very large, very obvious. It was not a plane or helicopter.
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Speaker 1: He's quite sure about that. And it made him a
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Speaker 1: lifelong believer in UFOs. And this is a good lesson
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Speaker 1: for parents out there. When a child or anyone really says,
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Speaker 1: that they are seeing something, take the time to look
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Speaker 1: and you could have an experience that you will not
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Speaker 1: soon forget. And now we move on to another case
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Speaker 1: and I call this one Two UFO Displays for Arnie Weiler.
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Speaker 1: This case is very interesting. It involves a gentleman who
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Speaker 1: works for NBC as an adult and he has had
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Speaker 1: four major sightings. I'm just going to present two here today,
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Speaker 1: two which involve this really unusual display type of behavior.
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Speaker 1: One occurred when he was just a little boy. He
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Speaker 1: was eight years old and he lived in an apartment
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Speaker 1: building in Cleveland, Ohio that overlooked Lake Erie. And one
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Speaker 1: evening he asked his parents if he could camp out
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Speaker 1: on the balcony of their apartment and they agreed. And
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Speaker 1: he went out there in his sleeping bag and his flashlight,
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't long after darkness had fallen that Arnie
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Speaker 1: witnessed a dramatic UFO display. It started with an unusually
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Speaker 1: bright star-like object, and when he saw that it was unusual,
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Speaker 1: he kept his eye on it, and he was glad
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Speaker 1: he did because it started to do things no star
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Speaker 1: can do. As Arnie says, and I quote, there was
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Speaker 1: a star that got a little bit bright and a
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Speaker 1: little bit brighter And of course I kept watching it
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Speaker 1: because it kept getting brighter and brighter and it seemed
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Speaker 1: like it was growing. And then it started moving in
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Speaker 1: a clockwise circle, very small, kind of like vibrating a
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Speaker 1: little bit. And it moved in a wider and wider circle,
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Speaker 1: a huge circle. And when it hit the bottom of
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Speaker 1: this circle, it stopped. It just stopped dead. Of course
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Speaker 1: I kept watching it because I couldn't figure out what
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Speaker 1: was going on. And then it went off to the west.
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Speaker 1: It just shot right off. After this thing darted away,
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Speaker 1: Arnie ran inside and told his parents, and they did
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Speaker 1: not believe him. He was quite disappointed at that. And
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Speaker 1: that would not be his only sighting. It certainly did
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Speaker 1: convince him that UFOs were real. And he would later
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Speaker 1: have more sightings. And the second one I'd like to
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Speaker 1: talk about was a very strange sighting involving aliens. high
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Speaker 1: strangeness on multiple levels. And this one occurred on October 14, 1990,
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Speaker 1: at the time he was living in a home in
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Speaker 1: Pasadena in Southern California. And it started when he had
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Speaker 1: a very sudden and very strong impulse to look outside.
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Speaker 1: As Arnie says, I got this funny feeling I should
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Speaker 1: look out the window. I don't know why I got
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Speaker 1: the funny feeling I should look out the window, but
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Speaker 1: I got up and I went over to the fireplace
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Speaker 1: and I looked out the window and a spot of
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Speaker 1: light appeared over the house. It went off from east
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Speaker 1: to west, off to the horizon line. Then it shrank
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Speaker 1: from the size of a quarter to a pinpoint of light.
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Speaker 1: It also changed in color from a warm white to
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Speaker 1: a very, very bright, intense blue-white light. At this point,
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Speaker 1: judging by its appearance and movement, Arnie realized he was
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Speaker 1: seeing an actual UFO. He quickly ran back to the
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Speaker 1: living room and woke up his brother who was sleeping
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Speaker 1: on the couch and told him that he had just
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Speaker 1: seen a UFO. but the experience was not over yet.
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Speaker 1: At this point, something very strange happened. This weird wave
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Speaker 1: of light swept over Arnie's house. As he says, it
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Speaker 1: was as though you took a giant donut of light
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Speaker 1: and ran it across the house so that it glowed
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Speaker 1: only around the house, not down by the street. It
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Speaker 1: was easily visible, and it illuminated all of the foliage
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Speaker 1: around the house but nowhere else. I just got the
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Speaker 1: funny feeling something was up close. What's really interesting is
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Speaker 1: when this wave of light swept over the house, Arnie
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Speaker 1: noticed two things. His ears popped as if he had
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Speaker 1: gone up in elevation, and not only that, there was
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Speaker 1: this eerie silence that settled over the entire area. UFO
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Speaker 1: researchers are quite familiar with this effect, and it's called
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Speaker 1: the Oz effect. And this can sometimes turn up in
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Speaker 1: close encounters. And it certainly turned up in Arnie's case.
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Speaker 1: It was very apparent to him. As he says, I
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Speaker 1: went outside and there was absolutely no sound. The crickets
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Speaker 1: had stopped making noise. It was absolutely silent. My ears
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Speaker 1: felt like they were going up another level in height.
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Speaker 1: It was as though I had gone up to about 5,000 feet,
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Speaker 1: but it didn't hurt. It had that sort of silent feeling.
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Speaker 1: It was absolutely silent until I got to the street,
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Speaker 1: and then the normal noises appeared. Arnie went back inside,
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Speaker 1: and his brother was still in there trying to wake up,
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Speaker 1: and he did see the light sweep over the house,
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Speaker 1: but nothing else. At this point, the sounds returned to
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Speaker 1: normal and the sighting appeared to be over. But Arnie
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Speaker 1: did notice one other important and I think significant detail.
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Speaker 1: As he says, on my retina, the blue light, when
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Speaker 1: it got to a fine pinpoint towards the horizon, it
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Speaker 1: burned the color into my retina. So every time I
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Speaker 1: closed my eyes, I could clearly see the image of
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Speaker 1: what I saw in the sky. It was a perfectly
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Speaker 1: round disc, a little oval, and I saw it on
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Speaker 1: my retina for at least two or three hours afterwards.
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Speaker 1: So this was clearly some kind of display, and it's
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Speaker 1: got several strange elements. I think the most interesting is
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Speaker 1: that Arnie had a very strong flash of precognition or
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Speaker 1: a weird impulse to look outside, and as soon as
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Speaker 1: he did, this is when this UFO appeared. The other
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Speaker 1: interesting details are, of course, this weird Oz effect and
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Speaker 1: also the physiological effect of this after image on his
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Speaker 1: retina which lasted for two or three hours so this
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Speaker 1: goes to prove that there was something actually there eye
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Speaker 1: irritation light sensitivity is one of the most common physiological
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Speaker 1: effects as a result of a UFO encounter so it
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Speaker 1: was a very interesting sighting and it appears that this
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Speaker 1: UFO these UFO occupants wanted Arnie to see them and
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Speaker 1: made it sure that he looked outside before they appeared
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Speaker 1: Now I'd like to move to another case which shows
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Speaker 1: a very interesting aspect of UFO behavior And I call
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Speaker 1: this next case the repeater problem a UFO sighting is
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Speaker 1: often a once-in-a-lifetime event however for some people it's not
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Speaker 1: it's something they experience over and over again throughout their
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Speaker 1: lives and And that's certainly what happened with Ronnie Barron.
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Speaker 1: He's had well over a dozen sightings. He doesn't believe
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Speaker 1: he's a contactee. He has just seen UFOs on many,
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Speaker 1: many occasions. He had a very interesting sighting as a
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Speaker 1: little boy in Biloxi, Mississippi, when he saw a powder
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Speaker 1: blue disc, an orb rather, shooting across the sky. And
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Speaker 1: he's had a lot of sightings. I just want to
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Speaker 1: talk about three of the major ones, each of which
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Speaker 1: was clearly a display. At some point, Ronnie Barron moved
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Speaker 1: to Encino here in Southern California and started seeing UFOs again.
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Speaker 1: And this often happened when he would step outside at
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Speaker 1: night to look at the stars and these objects would
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Speaker 1: appear start darting around and move off and he told
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Speaker 1: his teenage son about these sightings but his teenage son
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Speaker 1: did not believe him until one time they both together
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Speaker 1: had a dramatic ufo display appear overhead this occurred in
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Speaker 1: the early 1970s again in encino california ronnie and his
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Speaker 1: son stepped outside and five orb-like objects started darting around
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Speaker 1: in really amazing maneuvers and patterns. As Ronnie says, I
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Speaker 1: saw five one night in a cluster and they were close.
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Speaker 1: I was outside with my son. It blew him away.
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Speaker 1: He wanted to deny it. He didn't want to believe it. Like, no,
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Speaker 1: this can't be. He was just totally blown away by
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Speaker 1: it because this cluster was up close. They stayed kind
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Speaker 1: of still in one spot and they came together and
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Speaker 1: then they'd split really fast. They'd separate and go higher.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of cool. Whatever these things are, they're
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Speaker 1: in touch with each other and they're doing things together.
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Speaker 1: They obviously have some kind of heavy communication because they
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Speaker 1: were doing all these strategic things together. They knew how
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Speaker 1: to split. They knew how to take off in an instant.
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Speaker 1: Like somebody said, ready, go, shoo! And in a few seconds,
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Speaker 1: one shot straight up in the air and they were
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Speaker 1: out of sight. They were not visible anymore. They somehow separated.
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Speaker 1: So this is a very interesting sighting because it shows
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Speaker 1: that these objects are essentially showing off, dancing around each
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Speaker 1: other in the sky in ways that our own aircraft
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Speaker 1: can't do. I think this shows how technologically advanced they are.
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Speaker 1: There was no sound associated with this. This was clearly
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Speaker 1: not helicopters, planes, or shooting stars, or fireworks, or balloons,
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. It absolutely convinced Ronnie's son that
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Speaker 1: UFOs were real. Of course, Ronnie himself was already convinced.
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Speaker 1: And I think in this case, they were probably showing
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Speaker 1: off to Ronnie's son so that he could become knowledgeable
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Speaker 1: about the fact that these things are real and that
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Speaker 1: we are not alone in this universe. I think that
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Speaker 1: is the reason behind these UFO displays, the agenda. And
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Speaker 1: I'd like to move to another case involving Ronnie Barron.
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Speaker 1: And this occurred again in Encino, California, when Ronnie was
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Speaker 1: attending a party at one of his friends' houses. This
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Speaker 1: was in the afternoon. It was a clear sky. There
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Speaker 1: were about 20 people at the party. And Ronnie was
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Speaker 1: the first to notice five objects, four or five objects
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Speaker 1: up in the sky. And they were orb-like objects, bright white,
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Speaker 1: and darting around in these very strange patterns that were
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Speaker 1: really obvious to everyone that this could not be anything normal.
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Speaker 1: As Ronnie says... They looked white and they were flying
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Speaker 1: in sharp triangles. I pointed them out. A lot of
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Speaker 1: people were looking at them. We were all watching them
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Speaker 1: go back and forth in these triangle motions really fast,
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Speaker 1: just turning on a dime, flying in one direction and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden heading back in the opposite direction
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Speaker 1: and going up to interlock these two lines. It would
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Speaker 1: fly on a point and then make a square in
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Speaker 1: the back of a triangle. They were moving in a
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Speaker 1: little mile-wide area. So everyone just stared up at these
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Speaker 1: things in awe, and this display went on for the
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Speaker 1: entire length of the party, three or four hours, until
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Speaker 1: people actually got bored looking at them and left. This
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Speaker 1: is a clear example of a UFO display. What are
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Speaker 1: they doing up there? Why are they darting around at
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Speaker 1: right angles directly above a group of people? It seems
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Speaker 1: pretty obvious that they want to be seen. And now
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Speaker 1: I want to move to the last case involving Ronnie Barron.
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Speaker 1: He's had other sightings before and since, but this one
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Speaker 1: is a really dramatic sighting, which had a very interesting
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Speaker 1: element to it that you do not often see. Ronnie
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Speaker 1: was driving with three of his friends through the Central
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Speaker 1: Valley in Fresno, California, along the Interstate 5 freeway. And
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Speaker 1: this was daytime, and as they were driving, Ronnie was
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Speaker 1: in the passenger seat, his friend was driving, and the
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Speaker 1: two other people were in the back, sleeping. Suddenly, both
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Speaker 1: Ronnie and his friend saw these two enormous white globes
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Speaker 1: of light drop down out of the sky and head
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Speaker 1: towards them directly over the freeway. It was very obvious,
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Speaker 1: very brazen, and it was so big that both Ronnie
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Speaker 1: and his friend thought that perhaps a 747 was coming
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Speaker 1: in for a crash landing. Although they couldn't see any structure,
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Speaker 1: there was just these two enormously bright white globes of light,
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Speaker 1: like landing lights, they thought at first. But as it
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Speaker 1: got closer, it was clear to them that this was
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Speaker 1: not a plane or anything conventional. And again, I will
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Speaker 1: just let Ronnie describe in his own words what they saw.
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Speaker 1: As he says, It looked like lights coming down over
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Speaker 1: the road, coming right at us. I looked at the
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Speaker 1: driver of the car, and he looked at me, He
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Speaker 1: didn't say anything and I didn't say anything. We saw
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Speaker 1: these two things up there and nobody said anything. And
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these lights came straight at us
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Speaker 1: and disappeared into the ground on the side of the
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Speaker 1: car in an instant. They vanished right down into the ground.
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Speaker 1: No smoke, no sound. And it happened so quickly. I
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Speaker 1: looked at the guy driving and he looked at me.
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Speaker 1: We were both very puzzled. No noise, nothing. Just total silence.
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Speaker 1: It disappeared into the ground. No explanation. Nothing you could
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Speaker 1: say about that. It was like there was a tunnel
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Speaker 1: or something waiting for it to come and land there.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of power operating those things somehow, but
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Speaker 1: no sound at all, with all that force of power happening.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. Unearthly, you know what I mean? Still,
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Speaker 1: nobody said anything about it. It was mind-blowing. There was
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Speaker 1: no explanation for it. It scared me because it reaffirmed
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Speaker 1: that there's some kind of life and intelligence happening up there.
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Speaker 1: To actually see it up close like that, you know
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Speaker 1: that we're not here by ourselves. So Ronnie would later
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Speaker 1: have more sightings. He believed UFO sightings are far more common.
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Speaker 1: then most people realize, and I agree because most people
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Speaker 1: do not report their sightings. Certainly Ronnie did not. None
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Speaker 1: of the people in this episode did. So the vast
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Speaker 1: majority of sightings go unreported. And this appears to be
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Speaker 1: another example where this object was showing itself off on
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Speaker 1: purpose to make another person a believer in UFOs. And
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Speaker 1: what's most interesting to me about this case is is
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Speaker 1: that this object disappeared into the ground, as Ronnie says,
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Speaker 1: as if a tunnel opened up. This is something I've
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Speaker 1: heard before. I do know of other cases. These objects
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Speaker 1: do have the ability to not only fly in the
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Speaker 1: sky or in the water, but into the ground. They
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Speaker 1: apparently have some force field around them that they can
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Speaker 1: render solid objects permeable or able to slide through water
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Speaker 1: or trees. or land as if it's not an obstacle
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Speaker 1: at all. And this is another good example, not only
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Speaker 1: of a UFO display, but how truly advanced these craft,
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Speaker 1: these beings are. It's a very interesting case. And moving along,
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Speaker 1: I've got another really remarkable sighting. I call this next case,
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Speaker 1: cavorting stars over Palm Springs. The main witness in this
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Speaker 1: case is another person I worked with for some time
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Speaker 1: by the name of Chris Schwindler. And she had a
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Speaker 1: very interesting sighting with her brother and friend while camping
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Speaker 1: out in Palm Springs in 1978. They were actually out
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Speaker 1: there on the desert lying in their sleeping bags when
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Speaker 1: they were treated to a really remarkable and obvious UFO display.
24:32
Speaker 1: And again, I will let Chris describe in her own
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Speaker 1: words what they saw. As she says, we were laying
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Speaker 1: around and looking up at the sky and we saw
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Speaker 1: these three different colored lights. And they circled around each
24:46
Speaker 1: other and went down and pulled apart and went down
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Speaker 1: and pulled apart. And it lasted probably a couple of
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Speaker 1: minutes and then they went away. They were little, but
24:56
Speaker 1: they looked like stars. They were red, yellow, and green.
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Speaker 1: They were lights. They looked like the size of stars
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Speaker 1: from where we were. I don't know how high, but
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Speaker 1: they were up there, though. So Chris does not know
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Speaker 1: what they saw. The only explanation she can think of
25:14
Speaker 1: is UFOs. They were silent, and they were not helicopters
25:19
Speaker 1: or planes or meteors or satellites or balloons or anything
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Speaker 1: that she could figure out. Ball lightning, fireworks, no. And
25:28
Speaker 1: what's really interesting about this case is that these objects
25:32
Speaker 1: were three different colors. That keeps turning up in these
25:36
Speaker 1: UFO displays. It's as if these UFOs are putting on
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Speaker 1: their lights with different colors sort of to show off,
25:47
Speaker 1: show their presence. And the way they're darting around in
25:50
Speaker 1: these dancing, playful maneuvers is I think another indication that
25:56
Speaker 1: they are showing off. So although this was a brief sighting,
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Speaker 1: it definitely made believers out of all three of these witnesses.
26:06
Speaker 1: And again, I think that is really the main agenda
26:09
Speaker 1: behind these types of UFO displays. The ETs want us
26:14
Speaker 1: to know about them, and they continue to pick groups
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Speaker 1: of people, individually, small groups, and sometimes large, and show
26:23
Speaker 1: themselves off to various people and the next case I
26:28
Speaker 1: want to talk about is one of the most dramatic
26:31
Speaker 1: UFO displays I've ever investigated because this one was witnessed
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Speaker 1: by a very large group of people and I call
26:38
Speaker 1: this one thousands of people saw it this occurred around
26:44
Speaker 1: 1972 over the coastal Southern California cities of Costa Mesa
26:52
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach, and the surrounding areas. The main witness in
26:57
Speaker 1: this case I call Walter. He does not want his
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Speaker 1: name used. He's a former military officer, quite familiar with aircraft,
27:07
Speaker 1: and he had a very interesting sighting while in Laguna Beach.
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Speaker 1: And as he says, this huge cloud-like lenticular-shaped platform Object cloud,
27:25
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a cloud, appeared over Costa Mesa. He
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Speaker 1: saw it from Laguna Beach, but thousands of people saw this.
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Speaker 1: Work stopped, traffic on the street stopped, people rushed out
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Speaker 1: of their cars and stared, people ran out of their homes,
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Speaker 1: pointing and looking and screaming at this huge, huge, perfectly
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Speaker 1: oval-shaped object, cloud-like object, that was hovering over Costa Mesa.
27:53
Speaker 1: And it clearly wasn't a cloud because there were little lights,
27:58
Speaker 1: pastel colored lights of many different colors scintillating and darting around,
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Speaker 1: not only inside it, but around the perimeter. And I
28:08
Speaker 1: will just let Walter describe in his own words his
28:12
Speaker 1: experience with this amazing sighting. As he says, I saw
28:18
Speaker 1: something when I lived in Laguna Beach that thousands and
28:21
Speaker 1: thousands of people saw. Everyone was out in the streets
28:25
Speaker 1: looking at it. A big cloud that was perfectly oval-shaped.
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Speaker 1: And colors moved around it. There were pinks and others,
28:34
Speaker 1: and they moved. They would scintillate and move around it.
28:38
Speaker 1: People were out in the streets. Everyone was looking at it.
28:42
Speaker 1: It was over Costa Mesa, but I saw it from
28:45
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach. The paper said that people were out in
28:48
Speaker 1: the streets in Costa Mesa. I mean, thousands and thousands
28:52
Speaker 1: of people saw it, just staring at it, looking at it.
28:56
Speaker 1: And towards evening, the media dismissed it as some kind
28:59
Speaker 1: of thing. But I didn't think so. There were lights
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Speaker 1: in it, and they were around it, moving through it,
29:06
Speaker 1: colored lights. And the thing was perfectly shaped, and it
29:11
Speaker 1: was moving slowly. People were just going, what is that?
29:16
Speaker 1: Someone said, that's a cloud. I said, bull, that is
29:20
Speaker 1: not a cloud. So Walter watched this for at least
29:26
Speaker 1: a half an hour. And this thing was moving at
29:29
Speaker 1: a very slow pace over the city. And after about
29:33
Speaker 1: a half an hour, it moved off into the distance.
29:37
Speaker 1: The media dismissed it as atmospheric phenomena. something Walter vehemently
29:43
Speaker 1: does not agree with this was well it had a
29:49
Speaker 1: cloud like appearance the fact that there were so many
29:52
Speaker 1: of these multicolored lights moving all through it made him
29:58
Speaker 1: feel like this was a UFO of some kind, and
30:02
Speaker 1: he has no way to explain it other than that.
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Speaker 1: It was a very dramatic sighting that was very widely viewed,
30:11
Speaker 1: and I think that was the whole point of it.
30:13
Speaker 1: When thousands upon thousands of people see something like this,
30:16
Speaker 1: it can cause a huge shift in public opinion on
30:20
Speaker 1: the subject. So now I'd like to move on to
30:25
Speaker 1: the last case, which is another dramatic UFO display. And
30:30
Speaker 1: I call this one, They Flew All Night. The main
30:35
Speaker 1: witness in this case is a gentleman by the name
30:37
Speaker 1: of Robert. He's an office manager. I did work with
30:41
Speaker 1: him for a number of years. And this case took
30:44
Speaker 1: place in 1983 at Lake Naciamento. This is in the
30:51
Speaker 1: Paso Robles area of California. And Robert and his friends
30:59
Speaker 1: were driving through the Lake Nacimento area one evening when
31:05
Speaker 1: they saw something that they could not explain. Looking at it,
31:10
Speaker 1: they realized that this was not stars as they initially thought,
31:15
Speaker 1: but it was a ring of lights, dim sort of orbs,
31:20
Speaker 1: and in the center was a much larger bright light.
31:24
Speaker 1: So there was all these little objects surrounding one central object.
31:29
Speaker 1: And as they watched, these little lights would leave the
31:32
Speaker 1: main one and start darting around all over the place.
31:35
Speaker 1: So they stopped the car, got out and looked at it.
31:38
Speaker 1: And that's when they noticed that there was several of
31:41
Speaker 1: these weird formations of lights. And they started putting on
31:45
Speaker 1: this dramatic display that lasted for hours. that really deeply
31:51
Speaker 1: impressed them. As Robert says, it was like, wow, it
31:59
Speaker 1: was a central light and there were these other ones
32:02
Speaker 1: that would fly around it. It was really weird. I've
32:05
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it before. They just looked like
32:09
Speaker 1: a cluster of stars at first. There was one real
32:12
Speaker 1: bright one in the middle and a bunch of little
32:14
Speaker 1: ones around it. And the one in the middle was
32:17
Speaker 1: really bright. and you'd see them move. They'd dart across
32:21
Speaker 1: the sky, dart back, but they'd go back to the
32:24
Speaker 1: same place, which was kind of weird. They'd fly away
32:28
Speaker 1: from each other. Sometimes one or two would take off
32:31
Speaker 1: in a different direction, but the clusters didn't dart. There
32:35
Speaker 1: was a center object with like five or six around it,
32:39
Speaker 1: and the ones on the outside would dart across. So
32:42
Speaker 1: Robert and his friends were amazed, flabbergasted, and stared at
32:47
Speaker 1: these objects and amazement and disbelief, and tried to explain
32:52
Speaker 1: what they were seeing as helicopters or planes or anything. Finally,
32:57
Speaker 1: one of them very reluctantly brought up the word UFO,
33:02
Speaker 1: and all of them were surprised to see themselves agreeing.
33:05
Speaker 1: There was no other explanation for what they were seeing.
33:09
Speaker 1: These had to be some kind of UFOs, just judging
33:12
Speaker 1: not only by their appearance, but by the way they moved.
33:16
Speaker 1: Although they were quite high up there, There was absolutely
33:19
Speaker 1: no sound. And again, there was quite a few of
33:24
Speaker 1: these things, four, maybe five main clusters, each with five
33:30
Speaker 1: or six lights around them. So this was quite a
33:33
Speaker 1: number of objects. And Robert and his friends decided to
33:38
Speaker 1: drive around to see if they could get a better viewpoint.
33:43
Speaker 1: And they saw a lot of other people pulled off
33:46
Speaker 1: the road looking at them. As Robert says, it was
33:51
Speaker 1: really weird. We went driving up to the lake and
33:54
Speaker 1: there were other people standing around looking up. We just
33:58
Speaker 1: kind of looked at them and they looked at us.
34:01
Speaker 1: It was weird. There were other people who pulled over
34:03
Speaker 1: looking up, watching. So we weren't the only idiots who
34:08
Speaker 1: saw it. So they watched this for hours upon hours.
34:14
Speaker 1: and at some point drove up high up onto the
34:17
Speaker 1: mountain to get a better look and as Robert says,
34:21
Speaker 1: we were there after midnight and they were still going on.
34:25
Speaker 1: We actually got bored of watching it. So they watched
34:30
Speaker 1: this for two, three, four hours and as it got
34:34
Speaker 1: late they decided to drive up to the top of
34:36
Speaker 1: a nearby mountain to see if they could get an
34:39
Speaker 1: even better look and by the time they got up
34:42
Speaker 1: there the objects were gone But this was something that
34:46
Speaker 1: went on for many hours, most of the night, and
34:49
Speaker 1: really impressed them that these objects were wanting to be seen,
34:54
Speaker 1: were showing themselves off. And many, many people saw it.
34:58
Speaker 1: And that is a trademark of these UFO displays. And
35:03
Speaker 1: while in some of these cases that I cited, I'm
35:06
Speaker 1: only talking about 1 or 2 or 10 or 20 witnesses,
35:11
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that there were probably a lot more people
35:13
Speaker 1: who were also watching it, but do not report their sightings.
35:18
Speaker 1: And in this last case with Robert and these UFOs
35:21
Speaker 1: up at Lake Nacimiento, he scanned the newspapers the next day,
35:26
Speaker 1: watched the news. He was positive this was going to
35:29
Speaker 1: be front page news, you know, television headlines. But of
35:33
Speaker 1: course it wasn't. There was no mention about it whatsoever.
35:38
Speaker 1: And I asked Robert if he reported his sighting to
35:41
Speaker 1: any media outlet, to the police, the Air Force, any
35:44
Speaker 1: UFO reporting center. He did not. That is one of
35:48
Speaker 1: the problems with these UFO sightings and the phenomena in
35:52
Speaker 1: general is people do not report their sightings. One in
35:56
Speaker 1: a hundred maybe will report their sightings. So any estimate
36:00
Speaker 1: of how many sightings there are is probably vastly underestimated.
36:06
Speaker 1: But I think these cases show a very unique and
36:10
Speaker 1: important type of UFO behavior, a UFO display. So those
36:15
Speaker 1: are the cases I wanted to present to you today.
36:17
Speaker 1: I did write about them in my book, 1 in 40,
36:21
Speaker 1: The UFO Epidemic. And while these are just simple sightings, again,
36:26
Speaker 1: they show this really important aspect of UFO behavior where
36:31
Speaker 1: I think the ETs have an agenda to show themselves
36:35
Speaker 1: off to announce their presence. It's in essence a publicity
36:40
Speaker 1: campaign to say, hey you guys, you are not alone.
36:44
Speaker 1: We are up here. We are real. And that is,
36:49
Speaker 1: I think, absolutely the agenda behind this. And why would
36:53
Speaker 1: they do this? Why do they want to show themselves off?
36:56
Speaker 1: Why do they want us to know about them? I
36:59
Speaker 1: think at some point we're going to be looking at
37:01
Speaker 1: open official contact. And they are getting us used to
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Speaker 1: their presence before they do a type of display that
37:10
Speaker 1: every single person on this planet will see that will
37:14
Speaker 1: leave no doubt in anyone's minds that they are real,
37:18
Speaker 1: that will change the way we think about ourselves and
37:22
Speaker 1: our place in this universe forever. I think at some
37:27
Speaker 1: point we will have open official contact. Ever since the
37:30
Speaker 1: modern age of UFOs, UFO activity has been steadily escalating.
37:37
Speaker 1: So at some point, I think it's inevitable that we
37:40
Speaker 1: wake up to the fact that we are not alone.
37:43
Speaker 1: And when we do, when we can get over this
37:46
Speaker 1: stupid UFO cover-up, when disclosure happens, I think we will
37:51
Speaker 1: finally be ready for that type of display where everyone
37:56
Speaker 1: in the world knows that UFOs are real and this
37:59
Speaker 1: will no longer be labeled a mystery. And I, for one,
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Speaker 1: look forward to that day. So that's the episode today.
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Speaker 1: I think it's really important that people recognize UFOs are
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Speaker 1: real and that they're trying to get us used to
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Speaker 1: their presence. And that's why I wanted to present these
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Speaker 1: cases for you today. I hope you've enjoyed this episode.
38:18
Speaker 1: I want to thank you once again for watching. I
38:21
Speaker 1: truly appreciate it. So until next time, keep searching for
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Speaker 1: the truth. Keep asking questions. And most important, keep having fun.