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Narratives Collapsing - Tucker's Demons, UFOs, NAR and Israel - Ministry X - 048 · Ministry X

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, it's me Cinderella Acts. You are listening to
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Harry, were throwing to discover that life can theoretically
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  exist up below the surface of planets due to the
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  heat caused by volcanic activities.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask, what's your favorite planet?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't have a favorite. I find them all fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: They're all part of a it always has been. I
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  like it because it's like the king of planets. Well, actually, Harry,
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  it's not a not a planet, it's a star. Well,
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  planets are star. Well that thing burns out, we're all
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  gonna be dead.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's that's true.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not gonna burn out for a very long time.
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  Speaker 5: I hope.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, doctor, have you ever seen an eclipse?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I have seen many.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if you stare at it head on, it'll
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  burn your eyes out.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's not best to stare at it the sun
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  during the eclipse, but it's hard not to.
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  Speaker 4: I once took a pair of binoculars and stared at
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  the Sun for over an hour. Why would you do that, curiosity?
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  Speaker 5: I guess.
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  Speaker 6: You are listening to Ministry X on Fringe Radio Network.
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  We're just checking all the wizards and the dingers and
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  the bleepers and we'll get started here momentarily.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know all the details.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what this is going to look like,
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  but I suspect the way things are going this is
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  how it's gonna play out.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, these are the things that keep me up
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  at night.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm talking to you here on the fringe radio network,
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  because there's.
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  Speaker 5: Not a lot of avenues.
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  Speaker 6: To talk about this information and these concerns that we
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  have as Christians. You know, I don't think Tucker Carlson,
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  even though he's been willing to talk about UFOs and
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  all this, he's not gonna have somebody like me on
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  or like Tom hornon to talk about how this is
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  all demonic. And that's not to say aliens are demons
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  like this one to one relationship.
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  Speaker 5: It's more complex than that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, are we just gonna keep rolling. Let's go to
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  the beginning here, Let's go to I'm rappling its further.
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  He's look, with no complexites, they can't play a lot.
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  Those not just came to the United States and put
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  the UFO was crashing the desert in Roswell was over
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  now right here in Washington, and then it turns out
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  that hey, let's get some run for the cover.
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  Speaker 5: They were flying buddies in the Air Force, Steve.
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  Speaker 6: Something else is going It's still going on today.
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  Speaker 5: This is not a widely accepted theory.
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  Speaker 4: Yo.
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  Speaker 6: You know, of course I talk about it other Oh
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  my god, that guy so annoying and uh, not only that,
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  but the Collins Eline were part of this afterlife research
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  as well, and there seems to be a connection that
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  we see emerging with.
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  Speaker 5: The aliens.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say, aliens and UFOs. Oh yeah, and
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  death and the afterlife, you know, passing into another dimension.
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  So the second half of the twentieth century is dominated
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  by this rediscovery of this ancient reality Algy analogy, Allegi
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  elergy like Algy. Honestly, I think it's a trap We're
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  going to get into deep armageddon of of super soldiers,
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  of super soldier of super soldiers.
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  Speaker 5: Who be a suicide mission. It's more complex than that.
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  Speaker 6: Anyhow, I think I've rambled on about this for long enough.
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  Associated with this group, Is there anyone in and on
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  the action mind they're going to have the ability to
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  if they don't already, If the demonic realm, who wonders,
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  if the demonic reth the demonic realm, who understands the
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  nature of them, be a suit, be a suit, be
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  a suicide mission. But humans aren't so intelligent. I can
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  see human beings getting wrapped up in this.
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  Speaker 7: Only to meet their devise.
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  Speaker 2: The presence of evil is kickstarting.
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  Speaker 5: People can wonder about the goods. What happened to me,
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  that's what happened to you. Oh yeah, I had a
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  direct experience with it in the milieu of journalism.
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  Speaker 3: Or just in my bed at night and I got
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  attacked while I was asleep with my wife and four
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  dogs in the bed and mauled.
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  Speaker 5: Physically, malled in a spiritual attack by a demon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, by a demon or by something un that left
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  right claw marks on my sides on my.
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  Speaker 5: Left well, they're still there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a year and a half ago.
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  Speaker 5: Was your wife terrified? I know you were. I wasn't.
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  I was totally confused.
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  Speaker 3: I woke up and I couldn't breathe, and I thought
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  I was going to suffocate, and I walked around outside
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  and then I walked in and my wife and dogs
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  had not woken up, and.
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  Speaker 5: They're very light sleepers.
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  Speaker 3: And then I had these terrible pains on my rib
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  cage and on my shoulder, and I was just in
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  my boxer shorts, and I went and flipped on the
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  light in the bathroom and I had four claw marks
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  on either side underneath my arms and on my left shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: They're bleeding. Oh, no actual cl marks.
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  Speaker 3: And I sleep on my side so I don't have
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  long nails and they didn't fit my hands anyway. But yeah,
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  that happened. So I'm not from a world where things
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  like that happened. I never heard of anything like that
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  happening before. I had no idea what that was. I
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  knew it was spiritually immediately you did, Okay, that was
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  gonna be my question. Yeah, well, I don't understand to
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  this day, I'm not gonna you didn't. You didn't try
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  to refute the spiritual part.
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  Speaker 5: In your own mind.
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  Speaker 2: It went you went right into the earth.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't make any sense, and it doesn't now. So,
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  but I'm not from a what do they call it
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  faith tradition that talks about things like that or even
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  acknowledges their existence. Like, there's nothing like that. I've never
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  heard anybody say anything like that in my whole life.
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  Speaker 5: Was my assistant. It was like, the only evangelical Christian
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  I know, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know well enough to call something bizarre like that, totally
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  bizarre like that, And uh she said, oh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, that happens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, people are attacked in their bed by demons.
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  Speaker 7: What what are you even talking about?
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  altered or just removed. Now, some of these taboo topics
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  we will be discussing today. Actually, this is becoming a
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  clearing house of topics today. There are massive shifts occurring,
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  massive shifts in the geopolitical landscape, and I need to
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  showing up. So if you notice me using some coded language,
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  please understand the delicate situation that I'm in. So we've
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  got narratives collapsing all over. The Tesseract is constricting eventually
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  into a single point of singularity. Your atoms are being smashed.
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  Now you heard some of that in the pre role.
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  They're oh, what's this Sammy Sosha? Sammy Sosha batting in
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  the clean up position today? Now, why do you suppose
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  that is Steve Well Harry Sammy has hit an incredible
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  four to eighteen with runners in scoring position this year
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  against left hander. You're probably wondering what Harry Carey has
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  to do with this episode. Literally nothing, nothing. I've just
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  been going back and watching old Cubs games with Harry Carey.
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  I like the Cubs, but they're not my team. I
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  grew up liking the Saint Louis Cardinals because they were fast,
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  they played great defense. It was a different strategy under
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  Whitey Herzog and that because of that astro turf at
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  Bush Stadium, and these guys like Coleman and McGhee would
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  slap the ball on the turf and run and then
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  they beat out bass hit steel bases. It was exciting,
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  and nobody plays baseball like that anymore. They had about
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  like four or five like fast guys at the top
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  of the lineup, and then they have one slugger like
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  Jack Clark or Tom Brunanski or Pedro Barrero or somebody
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  to try and bat all those those bunt hits and
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  bloop hits and walks cardinal baseball.
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  Speaker 7: Back in the eighties and the nineties.
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  Speaker 6: But baseball is like nostalgia for me. I mean, they
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  replaced that AstroTurf a long time ago, and I don't
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  really have a connection to the players or teams today,
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  So I go back on YouTube and watch old baseball
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  games and I'll pick like Cubs versus Cardinals from nineteen
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  ninety one at Wrigley Field, a game I probably actually
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  watched back in the day on WGN because we would
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  get WGN Chicago in our cable TV package, So I
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  watched a lot of Cubs games back when I was
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  still in school and didn't have a full time job.
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  And these so these on YouTube are like VHS transfers.
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  This is before the NL Central Division and the Cubs
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  and the Cardinals were both in the NL East, So
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  you grew up kind of liking the Cubs too, because
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  they're always on TV. But I would hate it when
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  Harry Carey would do that Cubs win, Cubs win, come
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  when Holy cow, because that usually meant that my team
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  was losing, and I'm cursing at the TV usually. But
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  it was a friendly rivalry between the Cubs and Cardinals,
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  and Harry Carey I think grew up. He started announcing
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  for the Cardinals in Saint Louis back when I knew
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  all the players and the coaches, and I followed the
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  standings and I collected baseball cards. It's different now, you know.
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  But I've been dosing myself with Harry Carey, and I
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  learned that he announced for one season in.
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  Speaker 7: Oakland for the A's.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know that, and that was my local team
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  when I lived in California. I supported the A's, went
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  to a lot of A's games at the coliseum. But
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  that was another time in another place, and the fringes
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  lonely my time, regimented Narry, there be yet to spare
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  in it for the old sports ball. They're calling it
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  World War X, with Harry Carey doing the play by
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  play back in the Terran system, the tactics of our
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  great adversary, Satan conducting his little minions, the refaem the
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  pathetic demons, scum. He is attempting to penetrate your mind,
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  to take up residence, in fact, in some dark inner place,
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  hiding itself, protecting itself.
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  Speaker 7: So you heard.
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  Speaker 6: They're also in the intro excerpts from an old episode
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  of Ministry X where I made comments about Tucker Carlson
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  and him not wanting to disc us demons in the
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  context of the alien discussion that he would never come
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  on Ministry X or any other podcast to talk about this.
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  So yeah, I was apparently wrong about that. Tucker Carlson
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  did experience some sort of demonic attack or was experiencing
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  some sort of demonic oppression culminating in this attack that
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  he describes, and he's talked about it several times now.
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  I don't think Tucker is connecting any of this to aliens.
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  That's my gig. So what I mean is, I don't
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  think he's connected his personal demon attack to the UFO
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  UAP extraterrestrial.
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  Speaker 5: About it.
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  Speaker 6: And in fact, when I looked into Tucker and some
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  of his comments that he's made over the last several years,
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  he has connected the UFO UAP phenomena to demons or
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  angels and demons more accurately, and that lands very close
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  to my position on this, with a few key distinctions,
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  which I don't need to get into full detail here
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  because I talk about it all the time. But here's
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  some of the things that Tucker said recently on the
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  Megan Kelly Show. He stated that UFOs are angels and demons,
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  and he also claimed that the US government is concealing
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  spiritual entities from the public, describing the phenomenon as part
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  of a broader spiritual reality, not originating from other planets,
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  but from other dimensions, but specifically tying it to good
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  and evil forces. I mean, maybe I will go into
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  some of the distinctions here, because this is pretty much
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  spot on.
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  Speaker 7: Where Tucker is landing here.
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  Speaker 6: I just think he's experiencing a bit of confusion as
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  we all are trying to build this theoretical slash theological
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  bridge from you know, these non human intelligences and you know,
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  like physical grays and this sort of thing. This is
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  just this is my daily life. This is ongoing discussions
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  with friends, fellow podcasters, you guys, the listeners, and your emails.
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  So I'm sure Tucker's heard about Eisenhower supposedly striking a
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  deal allowing the aliens to abduct human beings in exchange
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  for technological advances, and how this was all.
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  Speaker 7: Part of the Cold War.
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  Speaker 6: Scenario, the new world order of the time emerged post
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  World War Two. There's a post World War two slash
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  Cold War order, and this lands the modern UFO phenomena
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  squarely in the realm of intelligence, counterintelligence, espionage, super weapons,
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  weapons development, satellite spy technology under Reagan, it was the
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  Star Wars program that he wanted to get off the ground.
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  He was on the Joe Rogan experience back in twenty
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  twenty four and he said that UFOs exhibit behaviors defying
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  physics in other words, high speed underwater travel without propulsion,
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  and said that they were spiritual beings, either good or bad,
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  from another dimension. And again he asserts that the government
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  has some sort of relationship with these malevolent beings. Well,
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  now Tucker's getting even warmer. Okay, now we're getting into
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  Collins elite territory. Carlson referenced high level sources describing the
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  UAP phenomenon as quote spiritual and terrifying, with officials advising
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  to ignore it because quote they are demons. Now, isn't
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  it curious that on the opposite side of this is
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  lou Alezaon and the disclosure bros. Are basically saying that
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  these white hats, the Collins elite people that have a
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  conscience working in the government, are impeding their strange metal research, etc.
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  Because they have a firm belief that these are malevolent,
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  non human intelligences. I guess Elizondo would prefer to continue
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  working with these malevolent non human intelligences. But I'm sure
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  he feels that way because he comes out of the
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  intelligence community. There is hidden technology here, physical technology. The UFO,
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  the drone, the unidentified flying object, the lights in the sky,
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  the objects that can go from the sea to the
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  air to outer space are not demons themselves or angels themselves.
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  It's technology, the sort of transcendent technology, technology that does
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  far surpass our understanding or just at the fringes of
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  our understanding. Is Elizondo saying we should continue these programs
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  despite the fact that people have been hurt, possibly killed
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  in some of this research. And I'm talking about psychological research,
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  mind control research, MK, ultra type stuff, remote viewing. What
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  does that have to do with understanding how these craft
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  are controlled through telepathy like the YOUU moo suggest hmm.
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  So the disclosure bros. They're out here pushing quote disclosure,
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  which is just to promote this as a national security threat.
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  Now is it a national security threat? Yeah, because it's
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  these black ops, these dark projects that are controlled by
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  the deep state, the dark state working against its own people.
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  In this larger deception, which really behind all the alien
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  messaging is that we need to disarm the population. We
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  need to eliminate a large portion of the population. We
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  need to sterilize people. We need to confuse the sexes.
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  We need to control speech. Okay, this is you know,
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  the aliens just want us to be nice to each other.
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  No more mean tweets. If you want to evolve and
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  you want to join the intergalactic community of civilized beings,
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  you guys are way behind. I know I keep going
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  on and on about this. I think there are beings,
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  non human intelligences that are manipulative, lying scum, using human
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  beings within these agencies to develop technology. It's not like
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  this is what I was originally trying to say. We're
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  not capturing crashed spaceships and bodies to then reverse engineer
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  this craft, to hand it over to Bob Lazar and say, here,
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  figure this out.
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  Speaker 7: How do we know.
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  Speaker 6: We're being given the blueprints by the non human intelligences.
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  We're developing this stuff ourselves, just like Jack Parsons helped
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  develop advanced rocket technology. The latest documentary is out from
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  the Disclosure Bros. Age of Disclosure. It's like a complete
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  propaganda piece featuring a disgraced FBI director James Clapper, who
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  lied under oath about spying, illegal spying on citizens by
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  our own government, and other you know, intelligence filth and
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  oblivious senators and a bunch of so called whistleblowers. It's
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  crazy how far this is advancing. And Spielberg has a
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  new movie on the horizon. I don't even remember the
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  name of it or necessarily want to promote it, but
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  apparently some of the filming was done at a convent
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  with the nuns.
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  Speaker 7: So I saw this on X and.
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  Speaker 6: Realized that Spielberg, who started a lot of the modern
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  UFO mythology with films like Close Encounters and et, is
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  bookending this now with a more spiritual narrative. So Spielberg's
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  trying to jump in on the tail end of this
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  thing that he created.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know the exact plot of the movie or
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  anything nobody knows at this point hasn't been released yet.
• 33:26
  And the promotional billboard or whatever they had in Times
• 33:30
  Square showed this eye, you know, the one eye imagery
• 33:36
  and imagery of a bird of some sort. And we
• 33:40
  know biblically birds are often equated with demonic spirits, familiar spirits,
• 33:52
  and unclean spirits et.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Cetera.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: So it's a dirty burdeny in the context of disclosure,
• 34:01
  in the context of revelation, you know. And they do
• 34:13
  this basically to solder certain nerve endings together in your
• 34:21
  brain to create new synapse pathways, so that when you
• 34:32
  start to contemplate the deception that's coming, you're gonna be like, yeah,
• 34:37
  this is oh, I get it now. It's like Buddha
• 34:41
  and Krishna and Jesus and it's all the same we
• 34:47
  all worship the same god. And oh this is it's scientific.
• 34:53
  It makes sense. Take me, take me and my children,
• 35:00
  take me away, Take me to colob, take me to
• 35:05
  whatever else is out there beyond Uranus, because you know,
• 35:14
  I think what they discovered in the deep underground military
• 35:18
  base is that the occult magic that Jack Parsons and
• 35:31
  Crowley we're practicing. Basically, what you do is butt stuff
• 35:40
  and other perverted, debased acts that gives you a cult
• 35:48
  power that opens up the portal. I'm not kidding. These
• 35:54
  researchers and scientists, they're on par with these black magicians.
• 36:01
  And it's literally like the these are the things that
• 36:06
  they're studying, and that that's been confirmed. Remote viewing Kundalini
• 36:12
  and all this. I mean, it's all about the butt.
• 36:17
  It's crazy, Okay, more evidence for the fact that they're
• 36:22
  working with demons. It doesn't matter if the demons are
• 36:28
  masquerading as aliens or a homunculus or a gollum creature
• 36:35
  or some hybrid thing or a shape shifter, a skin
• 36:40
  walker whatever. You're not getting it. I don't mean you,
• 36:46
  you guys are smart. I'm talking about the big names
• 36:50
  out there, the Rogans, the Tucker Carlson's, okay when they
• 36:55
  weigh in on this topic. But the thing is, we've
• 36:59
  been taught talking about this for the last ten or twelve.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: Years or more.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: You know, here in the fringe Christian community. These things masquerade.
• 37:15
  They have controls over your psyche. They're prophetic, Okay, They're
• 37:25
  not telepathic extraterrestrials that evolved on another planet. They're here,
• 37:30
  they've been here, and they're more advanced than you. They're
• 37:36
  smarter than you. And then when you get to the
• 37:38
  big boss. The big bosses are the fallen Angels who
• 37:45
  are bound in prison. Okay, but that doesn't mean they
• 37:55
  can't communicate if you reach out to them, Okay, if
• 38:03
  you find them on the prison Pals dating service, and
• 38:10
  you have a relationship with them, and you do sacrifices
• 38:15
  for them, if you appease them, if you make them happy,
• 38:21
  if you make their environment there in the abyss a
• 38:25
  little bit more comfortable. Because a lot of times prisoners
• 38:29
  they just want to talk to people. They don't care
• 38:31
  who you are. They'll write you a letter, they'll find you.
• 38:35
  The danger there is that they're just looking for gullible
• 38:38
  people to send them money, or gullible people to listen
• 38:42
  to them, or try and garner media attention to influence
• 38:48
  the court of public opinion. Like a mob boss behind bars, Okay,
• 38:55
  he still has ways of running his business and moving
• 38:59
  his money around and ordering hits, et cetera in his
• 39:05
  imprisoned state. So when we're talking about the watchers, okay,
• 39:13
  the watchers have already been punished. That's how they spread
• 39:18
  their influence. And I'm going there, I'm going there.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: So what are the grays. Well, this is another conversation
• 39:30
  that we've been having on x ufo Twitter. The grays.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: Might be.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Genetically engineered human beings. They might, in fact be genetically
• 39:47
  engineered human fetuses that are artificially matured to a certain
• 39:55
  point and then they're sort of stunted. That's why they're short.
• 40:01
  They're diminutive with the extra large head. Okay, but this
• 40:06
  is basically like a biological robot. It's an engineered thing.
• 40:10
  It's a chimeric creature slash robot or something that can
• 40:15
  either be programmed or it can be the you know,
• 40:19
  the wetwear for some sort of spiritual or interdimensional entity
• 40:26
  to control. People describe the Grays as being very robotic, soulless,
• 40:34
  cold things, so maybe it's just a meat suit. Abductees
• 40:42
  contact Ease often describe communication with these beings through telepathy.
• 40:49
  They communicate telepathically. They also show the experiencers visions of
• 41:01
  the future of a dystopian earth, an Earth ravaged by
• 41:10
  climate change or war or nukes. I'm just I'm purging.
• 41:21
  This is good. This is good, This feels good. I
• 41:23
  feel like I'm getting to the bottom of it. And
• 41:26
  I hope that you can see, at the very least
• 41:28
  that this is a much more complex discussion than you know. Oh,
• 41:33
  the aliens are demons or the aliens are fallen angels.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Props to Tucker and other people who have gotten this
• 41:45
  far and now we gotta get into the details. Is
• 41:53
  the ongoing push for disclosure really just another scio? But
• 42:01
  let's take a quick break because maybe you're feeling a
• 42:04
  little overwhelmed. And when we come back, I'm going to
• 42:10
  talk a little bit more about the New Apostolic Reformation.
• 42:14
  We're going to talk about Israel. What's the connection with
• 42:21
  Tucker's demons? I feel like these are legitimate questions. We'll
• 42:28
  be right back after this. A man, and we're back.
• 45:11
  You've been listening to Ministry X on Fringe Radio Network.
• 45:57
  I snagged a little bit of audio of Tucker's story
• 46:02
  that's actually from the trailer of a documentary called Christianities,
• 46:10
  which I will link to in the show notes, and
• 46:15
  I've played other clips of Tucker over the years as well.
• 46:20
  It's post possession Tucker. You know, Tucker was attacked by
• 46:28
  a demon, apparently according to him, But was he in
• 46:33
  fact possessed by a demon? This is what Densh Desuza
• 46:37
  is wondering. Denesh Jesus a conservative ink political commentator.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: We all know him.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: He calls out Tucker, accusing him of lying about this
• 46:52
  demonic attack, but he doesn't really elaborate on why he
• 46:57
  believes this. Why does he believe Tucker is lying about this?
• 47:02
  He says, where's the demon now? This is what he
• 47:05
  says on X I'll read it. Tucker said he was
• 47:10
  mauled by a demon, leaving blood and scratches on him. Weird,
• 47:17
  what's going on here? Maybe he's lying, Maybe a demon
• 47:23
  really attacked him, in which case, where's the demon now?
• 47:28
  Or maybe there was no demon and Tucker had a
• 47:31
  psychotic episode thoughts question mark. So this caused a little
• 47:40
  bit of a stir. But this is in a larger context.
• 47:47
  As far as I know, Tucker has not formally responded
• 47:50
  to this. But this is in this context of this
• 47:57
  feud between Denesh and Tucker and Candice Owens and Nick Fuentes,
• 48:05
  because Denesh also criticized Tucker Carlson for interviewing Nick Fuentes.
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: So you have this, you.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Have Info Wars getting shut down in January, all in
• 48:24
  the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. You have this vacuum
• 48:29
  and all the little baby Christians and Conservatives and dominionist
• 48:35
  Zionists Evangelicals are rushing in to take that top spot.
• 48:43
  You got the Catholics and the Jews and the libertarians
• 48:48
  and the Magas and the Christian nationalists and the neocons,
• 48:55
  and it sort of seems like the identity of the
• 48:58
  conservative right has and lost.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: And then you.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: Combine that with the Epstein files fiasco, and a lot
• 49:10
  of this does seem to center around the question of
• 49:14
  Israel and the Escaton, the UFOs too, the Aliens. Now
• 49:24
  it seems like, as Christians you kind of want to
• 49:29
  have this Israel question figured out. We're going to talk
• 49:34
  about Israel a little bit more later in the broadcast,
• 49:40
  but that's the backdrop to these criticisms of Tucker Carlson,
• 49:43
  who I think has done some courageous reporting despite my
• 49:49
  own criticisms. But when it comes to this particular video
• 49:55
  of Tucker being interviewed for the Christianities documentary, his retelling
• 50:02
  of this demonic attack is very suspicious, and I think
• 50:08
  Denesh is picking up on something here. But again, we're
• 50:13
  dealing with what seems like a whole crop of Christians
• 50:18
  in this sphere of alternative media journalism who are all
• 50:23
  deceived at some level. They all have blind spots, especially
• 50:33
  when it comes to Trump or Maga or Israel, or
• 50:38
  disclosure or demons or the Bible and it's this dark
• 50:47
  enlightenment message that's attempting to undermine the gospel of Jesus
• 50:55
  Christ and his church. And once it's undermined, it can
• 51:00
  be replaced with a new enlightened ecumenical church, Abrahamic faith
• 51:09
  church perhaps in the West. And the church is more
• 51:18
  schismed than ever. So in the midst of this the
• 51:24
  Year of Our Lord AD twenty five, demons and aliens
• 51:30
  and UFOs are all mainstream media topics. They're attempting to
• 51:38
  get disclosure included in the Defense bill. Many are speculating
• 51:44
  that Trump might be the president who gives the humans
• 51:48
  UFO disclosure. Of course, disclosure I believe will be just
• 51:57
  another careful reworking of the narrative to reset the public perception,
• 52:04
  to prepare for the next round of predictive programming to
• 52:09
  roll out. So what we were talking about on the
• 52:14
  fringe fifteen years ago, watchers, demons, interdimensional non human intelligences,
• 52:22
  the hermunculous Nazi occult science. Now this is part of
• 52:28
  the mainstream discussion. So in that sense, we've sort of
• 52:34
  achieved something. We've broken through to the normies to a degree.
• 52:43
  But honestly, they're effing it up. The Collins elite are
• 52:46
  effing it up. The conspiracy people are effing it up
• 52:56
  because the conspiracy is too deep. It's too deep. You
• 53:00
  get into deep like John Keel, did you realize it's
• 53:04
  a big mind f and I apologize for all the fs.
• 53:14
  And time and time again you have Christians in these
• 53:17
  non denom churches backing the conservative neo con Zionist politicians.
• 53:29
  Trump is not a conservative. You have to look at
• 53:33
  it like this.
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: Kate.
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: Liberals and progressives in the sixties would be considered far
• 53:42
  right today. Trump is not a conservative, and he surrounded
• 53:48
  himself with the lamest phony Christians and these new Apostolic
• 53:53
  Reformation pastors. Have you ever been to one of these
• 54:00
  nar churches. It's like a Disney meets Bethel concert performance.
• 54:09
  After everyone grabs their espressos and muffins because muffins because
• 54:16
  they're not as sinful as donuts, and then it's like
• 54:21
  a nice PowerPoint presentation. Okay, pay attention, guys, top ten
• 54:27
  things that God says are bad. Okay, And I know
• 54:32
  some of you out here. You're doing the gay sex,
• 54:37
  you're doing the premarital sex, you're vaping, the marijuana, you're
• 54:42
  saying bad things about Israel. You're saying Trump is not
• 54:50
  King Cyrus because Apostle Paul said so wait, the Apostle
• 54:58
  Paul in the Bible. No, I'm very own Apostle Paul
• 55:02
  right here.
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: How's your Thanksgiving everybody?
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: So check it out.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: Guys. My twelve year old is like, dad, Dad, you
• 55:12
  gotta have an app for our church.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: You know me, I don't know anything about these phones
• 55:20
  and apps and stuff. You know, I'm old school, you know,
• 55:25
  but I got to thinking with our youth pastor pastor.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Gym over here.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: Saying we should have have this app. You know that
• 55:36
  all the kids are talking about a church app. You
• 55:39
  can go right on your phone right in the in
• 55:43
  the Google Play Store.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: You can download.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: The app and it has everything there, our worship schedule
• 55:54
  and you could submit a prayer request. Just download that
• 55:59
  right there, and when you sign up, you get a
• 56:02
  free coffee mug with our little church logo on it.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: There.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: Isn't that awesome?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, that's not really a worship service, right. We've
• 56:15
  got several of these churches in northern Idaho, and I'm
• 56:20
  going to talk about that a little later too. Getting
• 56:23
  back to this video of Tucker Carlson. Now, I know
• 56:30
  he's told this story several times, but in this particular clip,
• 56:35
  the one that you heard in the intro, something about
• 56:40
  it seems off, most notably the fact that he's not
• 56:47
  he doesn't seem disturbed by it. Now, he describes this
• 56:50
  incident as occurring about a year and a half ago.
• 56:58
  What was going on in Tucker's life a year and
• 57:02
  a half ago? This is the first question I asked,
• 57:07
  Because demons like to use doorways, and if there's some
• 57:12
  sort of sin in your life, if there's some sort
• 57:15
  of turmoil or trauma going on at that time, if
• 57:19
  there's spiritual warfare being directed at you, or that you're
• 57:23
  engaging in either you know, subconsciously or consciously, you might
• 57:29
  have some demons trying to get at you. So that's
• 57:34
  what I was asking. What was Tucker Carlson going through
• 57:37
  a year and a half ago. Well, if you remember
• 57:40
  he got booted off of Fox around that same time
• 57:48
  and had to go solo start doing his own thing.
• 57:56
  Should I imagine was sort of a tough transition, kind
• 58:00
  of a shock, Or maybe it wasn't a shock, Maybe
• 58:03
  he knew it was coming, Maybe he was preparing for it.
• 58:07
  In that case, that would indicate someone who was vigilant,
• 58:11
  who was aware of potential attacks on him, his career,
• 58:15
  his family, not someone who would be easily, you know,
• 58:20
  side swiped by a demon in the middle of the night.
• 58:28
  So we have no way of knowing really if this
• 58:31
  is a true story. Now, ordinarily I wouldn't have any
• 58:37
  reason to doubt what he says, but the fact that
• 58:39
  he doesn't seem upset about it and sort of brushes
• 58:43
  it off like this humorous thing that totally caught him
• 58:48
  off guard because he's never heard of such a thing.
• 58:51
  He's never heard of, you know, demons attacking people. It
• 58:55
  just seems so foreign to him, such a foreign concept.
• 59:00
  I found that sort of hard.
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: To believe too.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: Apparently he still has marks on his body, so already
• 59:07
  we're some of these things are troubling because it sounds
• 59:11
  sort of like a Hollywood portrayal of a demon, you know,
• 59:16
  because that's what you've been conditioned to believe about demons.
• 59:19
  They leave claw marks, And oh my god, I woke
• 59:22
  up in the morning and I thought it was all
• 59:23
  a bad dream until I saw the blood on my sheets,
• 59:29
  and uh, maybe it just seemed a little bit too
• 59:33
  Hollywood to me, and then he just laughs it off
• 59:36
  like he had to call his evangelical sister.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: In law or sister I can't remember.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: To find out what was going on with him, because
• 59:46
  he just wasn't from a faith tradition where that's a thing.
• 59:55
  I don't know. What do you think about his comments?
• 59:58
  They kind of came across as a little strange to me.
• 1:00:01
  Maybe he's just told the story too many times and
• 1:00:03
  it's just sort of a routine thing now. But it
• 1:00:05
  was just a year and a half ago. I know,
• 1:00:07
  if I got attacked by a demon in the fashion
• 1:00:12
  that he describes, that would tend to be a life
• 1:00:17
  altering event. Or he's trying to frame up this transition
• 1:00:23
  of his from Fox to independent journalist in some sort
• 1:00:31
  of spiritual battle. He also says that this incident caused
• 1:00:37
  him to, for the first time in his life, really
• 1:00:40
  read the Bible and get serious about his spirituality, which
• 1:00:48
  that's all find and good. I think that's great. I
• 1:00:50
  think that's what you want to do. If you get
• 1:00:52
  attacked by a demon, that means something's wrong, something's off
• 1:00:55
  in your life. Tucker Carlson has described the demonic attack
• 1:01:01
  in multiple interviews, including those in late twenty twenty four
• 1:01:04
  and early twenty twenty five, as occurring approximately a year
• 1:01:08
  and a half prior to those discussions, which aligns with
• 1:01:12
  around April to May twenty twenty three. Now, this time
• 1:01:17
  frame coincides with, like I said, this major turning point
• 1:01:22
  in his career, transitioning from the mainstream cable news to
• 1:01:28
  independent media production. Carlson was fired from Fox April twenty fourth,
• 1:01:35
  twenty twenty three, Carlson was abruptly dismissed from Fox News,
• 1:01:43
  where he had hosted the highly rated Tucker Carlson Tonight
• 1:01:46
  since twenty sixteen. Reports later suggested internal tensions, including his
• 1:01:51
  growing influence and controversial stances, contributing to the decision, marked
• 1:02:00
  the end of his tenure at the network and sparked
• 1:02:02
  widespread media coverage. May of twenty twenty three, he announced
• 1:02:08
  that he would be relaunching on X. Tucker released a
• 1:02:13
  video declaring We're back, signaling his intent to continue producing
• 1:02:18
  content independently on the platform and bypassing traditional media outlets.
• 1:02:28
  Later in May twenty twenty three, Carlson shared insights into
• 1:02:31
  his firing via a post linking to a biography excerpt
• 1:02:35
  claiming he had become too big for his boots and
• 1:02:39
  that he had alienated parts of the company. Okay, so
• 1:02:44
  the demons are fighting. Tucker makes sense to me because
• 1:02:50
  he's done a lot to call out the behind the
• 1:02:53
  scenes working of the Kingdom of Satan. According to interviews,
• 1:02:59
  the experience prompted Tucker to start reading the Bible, which
• 1:03:03
  he credits with revealing the nature of spiritual goodness to
• 1:03:07
  him and fundamentally altering his worldview. He's also reported subsequent
• 1:03:13
  encounters where he felt God's presence characterized by feelings of peace,
• 1:03:19
  true empathy, and love for others, emotions he says do
• 1:03:25
  not come naturally to him. Yeah, Tucker's such a bad boy.
• 1:03:33
  Sounds like some people wanted Tucker Curlson canceled and they
• 1:03:37
  still want Tucker Curlson canceled.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: This is the height of cancel culture twenty twenty three.
• 1:03:49
  And there were a lot of critics of Tucker out there,
• 1:03:53
  the ADL because if you criticize the modern nation state
• 1:03:58
  of Israel or the Jews, then you're automatically anti Semitic
• 1:04:03
  if you even talk about it. The New York Times
• 1:04:09
  is called Carlson racist and accused him of pushing fringe
• 1:04:15
  ideas into the mainstream. Then there's good old Ben Shapiro. Okay,
• 1:04:26
  here we go. Another conservative recently blasted Carlson as an
• 1:04:32
  intellectual coward for interviewing Nick Fuentes. I mean, you got
• 1:04:42
  some ideological clashes here between Carlson and Ben Shapiro, but
• 1:04:48
  they get lumped together for being so called conservatives. So
• 1:04:52
  you can be conservative, jew, conservative, Christian, conservative, agnostic, conservative, Catholic, conservative,
• 1:05:00
  maga conservative, libertarian. Okay, nobody knows what conservative means. Okay,
• 1:05:07
  you've got the usual suspects here too. Rachel Maddow media matters.
• 1:05:12
  I guess Rachel Maddow was spotted at Dick Cheney's funeral.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Recently.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: If that goes to show you anything about conservative liberal
• 1:05:25
  I guess compared to Trump, those other conservatives like Dick
• 1:05:31
  Cheney and Bush seem like angels. It's just a move
• 1:05:37
  to make Trump seem like more of an extremist in
• 1:05:40
  the public eye. My question is which of these people
• 1:05:44
  that are out here criticizing Tucker Carlson are actual witches
• 1:05:51
  and shamans who are sending the evil spirits after Tucker Carlson.
• 1:05:57
  Because we know that the witches curse Charlie Kirk, they
• 1:06:04
  curse Trump, So you know Tucker Carlson also in this
• 1:06:09
  ven circle of conservatism. When you look at these people
• 1:06:15
  as individuals, you'll find out that they disagree on a
• 1:06:19
  great many fundamental things and so very few of them
• 1:06:23
  actually understand things from a biblical perspective.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: But that's okay.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: They're conservative, so we should listen to them and we
• 1:06:33
  should vote for them when they run for office. Now,
• 1:06:37
  we used to speculate that Tucker Carlson was part of
• 1:06:41
  this celebrity Kabbala movement because apparently there's a picture of
• 1:06:45
  him with the red string, the red bracelet around the
• 1:06:49
  wrist that we've seen Madonna wear and Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore,
• 1:06:56
  they've all come out and said, Kabala, it's cool, it's
• 1:06:59
  the latest Hollywood yo, it's mystic judaism. But Tucker Carlson
• 1:07:08
  came out and said, no, No, it's just a red
• 1:07:10
  rubber band that was around a newspaper that his father
• 1:07:14
  had given to him a long time ago, and he
• 1:07:16
  just kept wearing it, So it's not a Kabbala bracelet.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: And I believe him. That seems ridiculous.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: That's when conspiracy stuff just goes too far. Oh yeah,
• 1:07:30
  he must practice the Kabbala because look at the he's
• 1:07:32
  got the red string. Now, if he practiced Kabbala, he'd
• 1:07:37
  most certainly know what a demon is and that a
• 1:07:40
  demon could attack a person. Okay, even though he's admitted
• 1:07:46
  that he doesn't really have a religious tradition or a
• 1:07:49
  religious life, that's not something he really believes in, until,
• 1:07:54
  of course, he gets attacked by a demon. Then he's like,
• 1:07:57
  maybe I should read my Bible, so I know what
• 1:08:01
  you're asking, What does this have to do with aliens
• 1:08:05
  in UFOs and Israel? Well, I will attempt to explain,
• 1:08:15
  and maybe he started connecting too many dots between these
• 1:08:19
  things and they tried to sideswipe him. Now, in the
• 1:08:28
  physical material world, that came in the form of him
• 1:08:33
  getting kicked off Fox. There's just certain things you can't
• 1:08:35
  talk about. But the flip side to that is that
• 1:08:43
  he has an even bigger following on X doing his
• 1:08:48
  own thing, and Tucker has come out and talked about
• 1:08:59
  UFOs extensively. He has raised the question that we in
• 1:09:08
  the fringe Christian community have been tossing around for probably
• 1:09:14
  a decade or more that the UFO phenomena and the
• 1:09:20
  demonic phenomena are related, if not one and the same.
• 1:09:30
  Quite a few episodes of this podcast, in fact, have
• 1:09:34
  been dedicated to exploring these connections. Now, Carlson's demonic attack
• 1:09:44
  also coincides with his extensive coverage of the Chinese spy
• 1:09:50
  balloon incident and the subsequent unidentified aerial objects in early
• 1:10:00
  February twenty twenty three. You might remember there was a
• 1:10:04
  big controversy about that because the military and our government
• 1:10:09
  and the Canadian government were rather opaque about it, and
• 1:10:17
  there was criticism of the government for allowing these objects
• 1:10:23
  to fly over our air space, you know, for thousands
• 1:10:32
  of miles before being shot down. You know, that's a
• 1:10:36
  national security risk, you would think, Now, Tucker didn't get
• 1:10:43
  to cover the drones that we experienced over New Jersey
• 1:10:48
  and elsewhere southern California, the drone incursions, But that was
• 1:10:54
  a similarly related story, incursions in our sky, unknown incursions.
• 1:11:07
  Are we going to start saying the drones or demons?
• 1:11:09
  Our drones, demons, our drones, the fallen angels? If I remember,
• 1:11:20
  Carlson was very skeptical toward the Biden administration concerning these
• 1:11:26
  spy balloons and other unidentified objects, and there was all
• 1:11:36
  kinds of speculation about them because the administration was not forthcoming.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: In February third, twenty twenty three, Tucker devoted a segment
• 1:11:50
  to the spy balloon spotted over Montana and criticized the
• 1:11:56
  government's delayed response, pointing out the national security threat by
• 1:12:04
  China and questioning why we didn't shoot this thing down immediately.
• 1:12:15
  Following the balloons downing on February fourth, US and Canadian
• 1:12:20
  forces shot down three more unidentified objects between February tenth
• 1:12:24
  and twelve over Alaska, Yukon and Lake Huron, amid heightened
• 1:12:31
  tensions and limited official details. In his February thirteenth broadcast,
• 1:12:39
  Tucker escalated speculation by suggesting these could signal an alien invasion,
• 1:12:47
  and you know, sort of joking about ets, mocking President Biden.
• 1:12:58
  All the administration ever said was they're not extraterrestrial, and
• 1:13:03
  they're not hostile. They're not a national security risk. I
• 1:13:11
  tend to think it is a national security risk, but
• 1:13:16
  I'm not saying they're extraterrestrial. But the surrounding controversy involved
• 1:13:24
  accusations that Carlson and Fox News spread misinformation, and there
• 1:13:32
  was this footage of the balloon getting shot down, like
• 1:13:36
  blowing up that somebody debunked, and so they were basically
• 1:13:46
  accusing Tucker, Carlson and Fox of fake news and wild
• 1:13:51
  conspiracy theories. I think Fox finally said, you know, Tucker's
• 1:13:57
  starting to cover things that we know as podcasters you
• 1:14:02
  can't get away with on YouTube or Spotify, much less
• 1:14:07
  mainstream cable news. So I do think that Tucker probably
• 1:14:16
  experienced something genuinely like some sort of sleep disturbance, night disturbance.
• 1:14:27
  I'm not so sure about the physical marks. You know,
• 1:14:30
  he was sleeping with four dogs in his bed. One
• 1:14:36
  of the dogs could have easily scratched him and woke
• 1:14:38
  him up in the middle of the night, went right
• 1:14:41
  back to sleep, So maybe some of the details are
• 1:14:46
  embellished and other details are toned down. I think there's
• 1:14:49
  probably more to this demonic attack. I think there was
• 1:14:55
  probably other things going on other than his firing from
• 1:14:58
  Fox or covering spy balloons. I think this was maybe
• 1:15:03
  not being from a faith tradition, as he puts, it
• 1:15:08
  didn't give him much of a framework in order to
• 1:15:11
  understand this. So he adopts this sort of Hollywood understanding
• 1:15:18
  of what a demonic attack might be like. And you know,
• 1:15:22
  then he calls his evangelical. I guess it's his assistant.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: Not his sister. I think I said sister earlier.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: So I think I'm going to credit any of the
• 1:15:34
  unnaturalness that comes across in this video interview to Tucker
• 1:15:41
  just not being willing to discuss some of the other
• 1:15:43
  details connecting to this. And that's his private life. I mean,
• 1:15:48
  that makes sense. And I think Denesh was sort of
• 1:15:52
  being a bully by just outright accusing him of lying, Oh, well,
• 1:15:56
  if you got attacked by a demon, where's that demon? Now?
• 1:16:00
  Are you possessed? Huh? Where'd did demon go? Tucker, to
• 1:16:07
  which I replied that, you know, one can experience a
• 1:16:10
  demonic oppression, a demonic influence without a full possession, which
• 1:16:17
  is basically the demon seizes your neurological controls. And I
• 1:16:25
  didn't get into the whole explanation that, Well, if we're
• 1:16:30
  talking demons here, we are talking the departed spirits of
• 1:16:33
  the nephelin, because we talk about that enough. But you know,
• 1:16:38
  neither Danesh or Tucker or Ben Shapiro or Candace Owens
• 1:16:45
  or Charlie Kirk even. I'll say, as these young conservative
• 1:16:52
  media people, none of them really have a good solid
• 1:16:58
  grasp of their theology. The you know, demons or Nephelim
• 1:17:06
  is going to hit the mainstream pretty soon. And then
• 1:17:09
  from there we go Nephelim to aliens. What's the connection there?
• 1:17:17
  So slowly we're getting there, and then I think we're
• 1:17:19
  looking at maybe a Project Bluebeam situation, the one world religion,
• 1:17:25
  one world government, where you know, the beings that we
• 1:17:31
  mistook for the ancient gods, the ancient ones are actually
• 1:17:35
  these space travelers, our space brothers, our space progenitors. Then
• 1:17:44
  a whole bunch of people are going to be like, yep,
• 1:17:46
  makes sense. I'm going with that. The UFO is going
• 1:17:51
  to take me to Heaven, right, is that how it works?
• 1:17:56
  But there will be a remnant that's like, wait, eight minute,
• 1:18:03
  this isn't Jesus. There's no rapture. Jesus already conquered death.
• 1:18:16
  Humans aren't evolving into these enlightened spirit beings, not until
• 1:18:25
  maybe after the New heavens and the New Earth will
• 1:18:30
  have a glorified body. But that's not like merging with
• 1:18:34
  God in the oneness of the universe, like the New
• 1:18:39
  Agers describe this whole ancient aliens scenario that sort of
• 1:18:46
  twists revelation. It's just a repackaging of this New Age idea.
• 1:18:58
  So now we're gonna pivot to the issue of Israel again.
• 1:19:04
  The larger context of this criticism against Tucker is this
• 1:19:09
  interview he did with Nick Fuentis recently, and Fuentis is
• 1:19:16
  a twenty seven year old conservative commentator, formally canceled over
• 1:19:23
  supposed white supremacist and misogynistic comments. For example, he's suggested
• 1:19:32
  that women should not have the right to vote, and
• 1:19:37
  he's been critical of Israel, and just that can get
• 1:19:45
  you labeled anti Semitic. Questioning the modern nation state of Israel,
• 1:19:53
  or whether America should ally ourselves so closely with them,
• 1:20:00
  saying Christ is king is anti Semitic. Think about that
• 1:20:04
  for a minute. A Christian expression of faith is offensive
• 1:20:10
  to the Jews, well, of course it is. It's offensive
• 1:20:15
  to anyone who denies Jesus.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: It's just like expressing pride in your heritage as a
• 1:20:23
  white person. We'll get you labeled as a white supremacist.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: Just like if you.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Claim Western civilization was built on Christianity. So I've listened
• 1:20:38
  to a few Nick Quintes interviews, most recently with Piers Morgan,
• 1:20:45
  and it's true that his commentary feels very rage baity.
• 1:20:53
  Is this man a serious Christian nationalist or white nationalist
• 1:20:59
  or is he just a hormonally imbalanced zoomer Catholic troll.
• 1:21:07
  I'm not sure, but all these conservative influencers frequently annoy me.
• 1:21:15
  Even if I agree with the general message. It's not
• 1:21:19
  delivered out of love. It doesn't have the heart of Christ.
• 1:21:25
  Candace Owens zeroing in on Erica Kirk, for example, Well,
• 1:21:31
  guess what, Candace Owens has the most popular podcast at
• 1:21:36
  the moment. If something is sensational, it tends to win
• 1:21:41
  out over the truth. I mean, Charlie Kirk came to
• 1:21:46
  her in a dream. Really, I mean not that that's
• 1:21:52
  not possible. Again, it just seems like this Hollywood narrative
• 1:21:57
  telling he came to me in a dream and said
• 1:22:00
  that TPUSA was conspiring against him. I mean, I appreciate
• 1:22:08
  the investigative journalism. We should be asking tough questions and
• 1:22:14
  digging for the truth, especially when we already know the
• 1:22:19
  ruling class. Are these reptilian vampires I mean, I figure
• 1:22:27
  there's those that walk among us that are not probably human.
• 1:22:36
  But Candace wants to focus on whether Macrone's wife is
• 1:22:40
  a transgender. So what frustrates me is that the reality
• 1:22:45
  is actually stranger than your conspiracy speculation. And when it
• 1:22:50
  comes to Macrone, what sort of power imbalance exists between
• 1:22:56
  a forty year old drama teacher and a fifteen year
• 1:22:59
  old boy in these elite circles. The reality is that
• 1:23:09
  these guys are beta's and worse, Starmer Trudeau, well now
• 1:23:15
  it's Mark Carney, mccrone's Lynski and all these leaders in
• 1:23:21
  the EU and Australia, New Zealand. They're beta men or
• 1:23:26
  they're women. And the main reason they have so much
• 1:23:31
  hatred for Trump and Putin is they're the alpha male
• 1:23:37
  archetypes and that really gets to the bleeding hearts, especially
• 1:23:42
  when they make statements that expose the globalist agenda or
• 1:23:46
  indicate that they've been co opted by it. I'm for transparency, honesty.
• 1:23:56
  The free flow of information and social media can either
• 1:24:00
  amplify a story, a narrative, or it can quickly shout
• 1:24:06
  it down. You have a ruthless democracy, or you can
• 1:24:11
  have some guardrails. But what you want is for the
• 1:24:17
  truth to win. You want the best ideas and the
• 1:24:21
  brightest people to win. Meanwhile, the AI is fighting for
• 1:24:26
  a consensus, a reasonably accurate summary and approximation of the truth.
• 1:24:36
  It's not an objective truth. It's certainly not the truth
• 1:24:40
  of the Bible or Jesus Christ. And I'd like to
• 1:24:47
  think that it's us out here on the fringe, in
• 1:24:50
  our fringe pods, who are fighting for the truth, the
• 1:24:54
  actual truth.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: Can we even know it in a sea of conservatism
• 1:25:01
  and confusion? Well, we can.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: We can know it, even though we have to accept
• 1:25:09
  that certain things are mysteries and may always be a mystery.
• 1:25:13
  The Trinity is a mystery, The incarnation is a mystery.
• 1:25:18
  The transfiguration is a mystery. We understand the why if
• 1:25:25
  we don't understand the how. I don't feel like this
• 1:25:29
  is a driving principle in journalism anymore. It's almost as
• 1:25:34
  if there's no genuine curiosity. You've got paranoid digging, or
• 1:25:44
  people trying to cram America or Russia or China or
• 1:25:48
  Israel into the escoton. The system isn't perfect, but usually
• 1:25:54
  the BS shakes out, turns out a lot of our conspiracy,
• 1:26:00
  theorizing and investigating has turned out to be true five
• 1:26:04
  years later, ten years later, twenty five years later, And
• 1:26:12
  by no means should these influencers be canceled or otherwise
• 1:26:16
  restricted in the public discourse, the public discourse of thoughts
• 1:26:24
  and ideas and speculation or political commentary. Likewise, I reserve
• 1:26:30
  the right to ridicule you and refute your statements.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: The Lord rebuke thee.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: That's what I should say. If I were a super
• 1:26:43
  Christian warrior, I would say, may the Lord rebuke you,
• 1:26:49
  and then I would whip out the perfect scripture?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 7: Is that Jude?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: Is that in Jude, the archangel Michael is disputing with
• 1:26:59
  the devil over the body of Moses. What's the equivalent
• 1:27:03
  of the Lord's rebuking? Reading the actual scripture? Knowing the scripture?
• 1:27:11
  And we're going to take a look at the Bible
• 1:27:12
  in a few minutes. Here in the real world, words
• 1:27:16
  have consequences, and tragically, sometimes that ends in murder, a
• 1:27:22
  bullet through the neck. Two thousand years since the Crucifixion,
• 1:27:29
  and soon quoting scripture in formally Christian countries will be
• 1:27:35
  a crime. And meanwhile, in the non Christian world, Christians
• 1:27:40
  are routinely persecuted and martyred. But now as the earth
• 1:27:49
  becomes more and more an anti christ landscape, these persecutions
• 1:27:56
  are coming to the West, the UK, Canada, Australia, and
• 1:28:02
  the United States. In Canada, you have this legislation being proposed.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: Through Bill C.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: Nine, the Combating Hate Act, and this bill aims to
• 1:28:20
  amend the Criminal Code regarding hate speech and hate crimes,
• 1:28:28
  and liberals in Canada support a measure to remove the
• 1:28:33
  good faith religious exemption from hate speech, which previously allowed
• 1:28:38
  defenses for expressions based on religious beliefs or texts. Critics,
• 1:28:47
  including religious groups and conservative commentators, argue this change could
• 1:28:54
  criminalize quoting certain Bible verses, in other words, those on
• 1:28:58
  topics like sexual or gender, if it's deemed to willfully
• 1:29:05
  promote hatred against identifiable groups, potentially leading to fines up
• 1:29:12
  to fifty thousand dollars or imprisonment. Supporters of the amendment
• 1:29:19
  maintain it targets hate speech without restricting religious freedom, emphasizing
• 1:29:25
  protections against rising anti Semitism and other hate crimes. Okay,
• 1:29:32
  same thing is going on in the Congress right now
• 1:29:34
  here in the United States trying to pass legislation that
• 1:29:40
  restricts speech if it's deemed hateful towards Jews, if it's
• 1:29:45
  deemed anti Semitic. All that means is that some judge
• 1:29:53
  can decide that a certain scripture is hate speech.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, the.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: Bible is tough law for all sinners. Are we going
• 1:30:05
  to say that the Sermon on the Mount is hate
• 1:30:07
  speech because Jesus says, if you even think lustful thoughts
• 1:30:11
  towards another woman as a married man, that's adultery.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: Is Jesus being hateful? I mean, we can't help it.
• 1:30:22
  We were born that way.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: Was Jesus slept shaming the Samaritan woman, No, he was
• 1:30:29
  pointing out the law and the judgment, the consequences of
• 1:30:34
  unrepentant sin, and emphasizing forgiveness and compassion and understanding.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: The way I look at it Israel and the Old
• 1:30:53
  Testament is God's chosen people, elected through Abraham to form
• 1:31:02
  a covenant community who's responsible for worshiping the One True God,
• 1:31:11
  obeying his commandments, and serving as a light to the
• 1:31:19
  nations the gentiles. This people of God were set apart
• 1:31:27
  as a holy nation and a royal priesthood with a
• 1:31:33
  universal mission to proclaim divine truth and prepare for the Messiah.
• 1:31:43
  The Exodus and the Prophets. The teachings of the Prophets
• 1:31:48
  are foreshadowings of salvation history and makes Israel's role as
• 1:31:55
  the centerpiece in preserving revelation and enlightening humanity, and is
• 1:32:04
  marked by periods of faithfulness and periods of apostasy. Those
• 1:32:13
  promises made to Abraham blessing all the nations through his
• 1:32:20
  descendants are spiritual, not.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 7: Ethnic.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: What makes people mad is when you say that the
• 1:32:31
  modern nation state of Israel, established in AD nineteen forty eight,
• 1:32:37
  holds no special theological significance. It's not equated with biblical
• 1:32:44
  Israel or seen as a fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies.
• 1:32:51
  These are realized, They're fulfilled in Christ and the Church.
• 1:33:03
  So one of these narratives that are collapsing is this
• 1:33:06
  dispensationalist Zionist interpretation of the scriptures that attempt to link
• 1:33:16
  the modern state to end times events or a divine restoration.
• 1:33:24
  I mean, I think the modern state of Israel deserves
• 1:33:27
  to exist. I think it was established legally in the
• 1:33:32
  aftermath of World War Two as part of the New
• 1:33:38
  World Order, structure, Germany was divided, the Middle East was divided.
• 1:33:46
  Even if the Rothschild Bank and the Imperial British Empire
• 1:33:52
  were involved in the creation of Israel, I think it
• 1:33:56
  has legal standing as a nation. I don't think we
• 1:33:59
  could say the nation of Israel should not exist. So
• 1:34:08
  when I think of Israel today, I think it's defined
• 1:34:14
  as faith in Christ, not ethnicity or geography. I also
• 1:34:21
  don't think God has abandoned Israel. I don't think the
• 1:34:25
  Church has replaced Israel. I think there is a destiny
• 1:34:32
  for the Jews in Israel, and I think it's not
• 1:34:37
  separate from salvation for the Gentiles. It all has to
• 1:34:43
  come through Christ. So you can be like a Messianic Jew.
• 1:34:48
  If you come to accept Christ, then you're in. You're
• 1:34:50
  grafted back in. Okay, it doesn't have anything to do
• 1:34:54
  with a little strip of land in the Middle East anymore.
• 1:35:00
  So you get all these Christian Zionists people going around saying, oh, well,
• 1:35:05
  when the Jews, you know, control the Temple mount and
• 1:35:09
  they can rebuild the Third Temple, and they can sacrifice
• 1:35:12
  the Red Heifer and reinstate the sacrifices, then we're going
• 1:35:17
  to have the abomination of desolation and you know, we
• 1:35:21
  can kick off the end times here. I think that's
• 1:35:24
  done so much harm to understanding the New Testament, the
• 1:35:30
  Gospels that Christians are like, yeah, we should help Israel.
• 1:35:37
  We should, you know, help them accomplish this thing. We
• 1:35:40
  should kick out the Muslims and give the Jews the power,
• 1:35:47
  because that's going to speed along things. I mean, you
• 1:35:53
  haven't read Galatians, you haven't read Hebrews in the Bible.
• 1:36:01
  The Church is the new Israel, the Israel of God
• 1:36:04
  Galatians six sixteen. It's the continuity and fulfillment of Old
• 1:36:13
  Testament Israel. It's not a replacement. It's like an evolution
• 1:36:19
  of salvation. It's the faithful remnant of Israel, reconstituted through
• 1:36:30
  Christ's incarnation, death, and resurrection. And this includes both Jews
• 1:36:36
  and Gentiles as one body in Christ and heir to
• 1:36:43
  Abraham's promises via baptism and Holy communion. The Church inherits
• 1:36:56
  Israel's titles, holy nation, royal priesthood, and their mission, transcending
• 1:37:04
  ethnic boundaries to unite all humanity in communion with God,
• 1:37:09
  with the Old Testament law fulfilled in Christ's New Covenant.
• 1:37:15
  Let's reader a little bit from Romans Romans eleven, and
• 1:37:21
  I'm going to start here Romans eleven thirteen. For I
• 1:37:27
  speak to you gentiles inasmuch as I am an apostle
• 1:37:31
  to the gentiles, I magnify my ministry if by any means,
• 1:37:37
  I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh,
• 1:37:41
  and save some of them. For if they're being cast
• 1:37:46
  away is the reconciling of the world, what will their
• 1:37:50
  acceptance be but life from the dead. For if the
• 1:37:56
  first fruit is holy, the lump is also holy. And
• 1:37:59
  if the root is holy, so are the branches. And
• 1:38:03
  if some of the branches were broken off, and you,
• 1:38:06
  being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them,
• 1:38:11
  and with them became partaker of the root and fatness
• 1:38:15
  of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches.
• 1:38:19
  But if you do boast, remember that you do not
• 1:38:22
  support the root, but the root supports you. You will say,
• 1:38:27
  then branches were broken off that I might be grafted in?
• 1:38:31
  Well said, because of unbelief they were broken off, and
• 1:38:35
  you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear,
• 1:38:39
  for if God did not spare the natural branches, he
• 1:38:43
  may not spare you either. Therefore, consider the goodness and
• 1:38:49
  severity of God on those who fell, severity, but toward
• 1:38:53
  you goodness if you continue in His goodness, Otherwise you
• 1:38:58
  also will be cut off. And they, also, if they
• 1:39:01
  do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in. For
• 1:39:05
  God is able.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 7: To graft them in again. For if you were.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: Cut out of the olive tree, which is wild by nature,
• 1:39:14
  and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree,
• 1:39:20
  how much more will these who are natural branches be
• 1:39:23
  grafted into their own olive tree. For I do not desire, brethren,
• 1:39:30
  that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you
• 1:39:32
  should be wise in your own opinion that blindness in
• 1:39:37
  part has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the
• 1:39:41
  gentiles has come in.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: And so all.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: Israel will be saved. As it is written, the Deliverer
• 1:39:51
  will come out of Zion, and he will turn away
• 1:39:54
  on Godliness from Jacob. For this is my covenant with them.
• 1:40:00
  When I take away their sins. Concerning the Gospel, they
• 1:40:05
  are enemies for your sake, But concerning the election they
• 1:40:08
  are beloved for the sake of the Fathers, for the
• 1:40:11
  gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. For as
• 1:40:16
  you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained
• 1:40:20
  mercy through their disobedience, even so these also have now
• 1:40:25
  been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you, they also
• 1:40:30
  may obtain mercy. For God has committed them to all
• 1:40:33
  disobedience that He might have mercy on all. So, in
• 1:40:39
  other words, there is no salvation without Jesus Christ. There
• 1:40:44
  is no separate covenant for the Jews. The Jews aren't
• 1:40:49
  automatically saved because they're Jews, but they can certainly be saved.
• 1:40:57
  They can be grafted back in by accepting Jesus Christ
• 1:41:02
  as their Lord and savior and affirming that Jesus is
• 1:41:09
  the Son of God. He is God, he died and
• 1:41:13
  was resurrected and defeated death. That's the only way. That's
• 1:41:21
  the only way for Jew or Gentile. So by extension,
• 1:41:29
  it's not anti Semitic to question the foreign policy decisions
• 1:41:36
  of the State of Israel, and we shouldn't get that
• 1:41:43
  mixed up. And unfortunately a lot of the evangelical world
• 1:41:48
  is mixed up in this, along with the New Apostolic Reformation,
• 1:41:52
  who are very pro Israel, and the aim sort of
• 1:42:00
  people that are backing this legislation, you know, to prosecute
• 1:42:06
  hate speech against Jews or Israel. And understand, you can
• 1:42:16
  call anything hate speech. One man's gospel is another man's
• 1:42:23
  hate speech. Bringing this back to Idaho, this is a
• 1:42:27
  problem I would say socio political upheaval that's going on
• 1:42:35
  up here in northern Idaho. So northern Idaho, you've got
• 1:42:39
  a lot of right flight. In other words, you know,
• 1:42:44
  conservatives generally speaking, fleeing other states like California, Washington and
• 1:42:54
  moving up here. So it's not actually the liberals trying
• 1:43:00
  to escape.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: The coastal politics.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: It's conservatives that are fleeing and coming up here. Yet
• 1:43:12
  there's still this liberal push in certain areas and in general,
• 1:43:16
  I would say Idaho is a very conservative state, but
• 1:43:19
  it doesn't mean it's without these battles between you know,
• 1:43:25
  leftist agendas and then you've got the far right agendas
• 1:43:29
  as well. And you have these candidates for political office
• 1:43:35
  that are leaning a little bit more liberal these days,
• 1:43:40
  and it's causing controversy as they start to win offices. Now,
• 1:43:47
  without getting too specific here because I kind of need
• 1:43:52
  to wrap this up, Idaho is, like I said, not
• 1:43:58
  without its you know, political and ideological controversies. Even though
• 1:44:08
  we have been a little more isolated, I would say
• 1:44:13
  up here in Idaho, I mean, we're surrounded by very
• 1:44:18
  liberal states, and even with Montana next to us here,
• 1:44:24
  they're leaning a little bit more liberal these days too.
• 1:44:32
  But places like Idaho and Utah and Wyoming traditionally very
• 1:44:37
  rural and conservative and Christian. Call it the Inland Empire,
• 1:44:45
  the Inland Northwest, as opposed to the Pacific Northwest, the
• 1:44:50
  coastal Northwest. Sometimes I identify as Pacific Northwest up a
• 1:45:00
  rocky mountain, you know whatever. But as I mentioned earlier
• 1:45:06
  in the show, we have a lot of these gnar
• 1:45:09
  churches and these non denominational churches, and they're growing, expanding,
• 1:45:20
  and this is part of the reason why, you know,
• 1:45:22
  me searching for a church I can belong to up
• 1:45:28
  here has really led me to the Orthodox Church, which
• 1:45:37
  I have visited as an observer as a guest, you know,
• 1:45:45
  a handful of times. Now I could actually be there
• 1:45:50
  right now, but instead I am doing this podcast. It's bad,
• 1:46:03
  my time is so poorly organized. Please pray for me.
• 1:46:10
  And plus we've been on extended vacation. I didn't work
• 1:46:15
  at all this week I had to file for partial unemployment.
• 1:46:22
  So my time, my perception of time is all out
• 1:46:25
  of whack because I'm not getting up at four o'clock
• 1:46:27
  in the morning to go to work Monday through Friday anymore,
• 1:46:31
  and getting home at around five pm, and then having
• 1:46:36
  free weekends, you know, to do yard work and maybe
• 1:46:40
  maybe do some research and record a podcast, or I'm
• 1:46:46
  doing home renovations, home improvements, checking off the honeydew list.
• 1:46:56
  Focused onanis, yeah, it becomes hard to focus. So forgive me.
• 1:47:04
  You know, this episode isn't just about Tucker's demons. It's
• 1:47:07
  about my demons. And everybody's got demons and goblins like
• 1:47:13
  nipping at their ankles or worse, you know, dishing out
• 1:47:22
  you know, tragedy and trauma and pain and suffering, and
• 1:47:29
  for some of us it's getting over, you know, creative
• 1:47:32
  roadblocks and getting over depression and conquering being being victorious
• 1:47:38
  and understanding your identity in Christ and having these faith battles,
• 1:47:47
  these spirit wars, spiritual warfare all the time. I certainly
• 1:47:53
  feel like that, you know, So in a sense I
• 1:47:57
  can understand where Tucker's coming from. He makes an ideological
• 1:48:02
  stand on you know what, I'm going to talk about
• 1:48:05
  what I want to talk about, and I'm going to
• 1:48:08
  interview who I want to interview. And that doesn't come
• 1:48:14
  without spiritual warfare, spiritual attack, spiritual let's say opposition, you know,
• 1:48:22
  and it can be more severe or it can be
• 1:48:24
  less severe. So getting back to what I was saying.
• 1:48:32
  Northern Idaho, there was a candidate for mayor November of
• 1:48:40
  last year who won the mayoral office in the city
• 1:48:45
  of Courtelaine.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: He's been perceived as more liberal. He started out as
• 1:48:52
  a libertarian, switched to Republican. He is I would say,
• 1:48:59
  one of these guys who who's you know, fiscally conservative
• 1:49:03
  but socially more liberal, and he wins out over to
• 1:49:12
  far more conservative mayoral candidates. And the controversy in part
• 1:49:20
  is due to the pastor, Pastor Paul Prophet Paul of
• 1:49:31
  this church here also in the city of Corlaine, who
• 1:49:35
  appeared to endorse.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: Dan Gukan for mayor.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Dan Gukin has made statements that are inflammatory towards Christians.
• 1:49:48
  I don't think he has a favorable view of most
• 1:49:52
  Christians or or maybe most of these you know maga Christians.
• 1:49:59
  You know, whatever that is. So he made some disparaging
• 1:50:03
  comments about Christians. I don't think he's a genuine born
• 1:50:09
  again believer or anything like that. He admits to going
• 1:50:13
  to church occasionally, probably as a a photo op he
• 1:50:18
  doesn't want to lose the conservative vote, but not really
• 1:50:22
  a conservative. I would say he still sort of has
• 1:50:25
  these libertarian roots. Anyways, Pastor Paul Here at this church,
• 1:50:34
  in one of his sermons, referred to himself as a prophet.
• 1:50:38
  He said, I am a prophet, I am a spokesperson
• 1:50:43
  for God, and very much this dominionist Zionist view of Israel.
• 1:50:54
  But apparently his prophet claims received some backlash from the congregation.
• 1:51:03
  So again we have these pastors claiming to be prophets.
• 1:51:14
  Meanwhile they seem to be in spiritual delusion.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: And then we have these.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 6: Libertarian, conservative non religious people. Throw some Mormons and some
• 1:51:35
  Mennonites in there too, And every commentator, myself included, has
• 1:51:43
  blind spots.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 7: And we're learning.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: Our pastor Paul here did refer to himself as a
• 1:51:52
  prophet and a spokesperson for God. Okay, and you know,
• 1:51:58
  if this is a one off thing, can let that slide.
• 1:52:01
  I mean, he was criticized because it's this sort of
• 1:52:06
  self aggrandizing sermon. But the thing is he doesn't have
• 1:52:12
  the authority to declare that that's not biblical. Now, I
• 1:52:23
  would say you probably have more to stand on if
• 1:52:26
  you're a bishop.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 7: Or priest.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: The thing is with these churches, anybody can start a
• 1:52:36
  church and you don't necessarily have to be ordained or anything.
• 1:52:43
  It's like running a business. And I think, you know,
• 1:52:46
  that's where my criticism comes in and where there's a
• 1:52:50
  disconnect there, like this Ichabod spirit. You know, they claim
• 1:52:57
  that the Holy Spirit is there and and working through them,
• 1:53:04
  but it's always to these like political aims, and so
• 1:53:09
  I'm very skeptical. On the other hand, I can understand
• 1:53:12
  if a pastor says, you know, I'm a prophet, I'm
• 1:53:14
  considered a prophet. Okay, well show me what are the fruits,
• 1:53:20
  you know, And then you know, these these uh, sexual
• 1:53:25
  abuse allegations start to surface from this pastor's daughter, so
• 1:53:35
  his own congregants, and the media here, the Idaho Tribune,
• 1:53:43
  you know, conservative media said it was hypocritical, especially you know,
• 1:53:53
  in this political context. But it looks like it's just
• 1:53:59
  sort of this rhetorical statement that he made in this
• 1:54:04
  sort of defensive sermon. It's not like he has this
• 1:54:11
  ongoing prophetic ministry or something. And he hasn't identified as
• 1:54:20
  an ar church. They don't claim to be an r church,
• 1:54:27
  I think. But it is more of this dispensational, dominionist evangelicalism,
• 1:54:37
  which these are the guys that always get sucked into
• 1:54:39
  these political contests. It's also not, you know, one of
• 1:54:50
  these hyper charismatic churches either so zoom out. It doesn't
• 1:54:58
  make Idaho special or it's just part of this larger
• 1:55:02
  culture war. And you see the conservative right just sort
• 1:55:08
  of fracturing and sort of losing their identity. It's funny that,
• 1:55:20
  you know, our pastor Paul here, you know, doesn't really
• 1:55:29
  recognize you know, spiritual warfare, even though it's like in
• 1:55:34
  his lap. And these are the people that are pastoring
• 1:55:40
  their congregations. These are the people that are supposed to
• 1:55:42
  be the good shepherds. The intersection of religion and politics
• 1:55:49
  is always the most contentious thing, and it's never a
• 1:55:55
  black and white thing too.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 7: You actually have to.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 6: Go and read articles, you have to research. You hear
• 1:56:02
  something about somebody on X running for office, this and that,
• 1:56:08
  what their political ideology might be, but understand that's a
• 1:56:14
  very subjective thing, depending on what source of information you're
• 1:56:18
  looking at, who's doing the talking. It's so burdensome actually
• 1:56:25
  just trying to dig for information, go back and research
• 1:56:34
  posts and bookmark posts and all that which that's going
• 1:56:39
  to lead into my news story here on the other
• 1:56:42
  side of the break. As always, there's a lot of
• 1:56:45
  other loose ends that I didn't really tie up. So
• 1:56:52
  stand by after the music, I've got an article.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 7: That I want to get.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: Into you, and then you'll be free to enjoy the
• 1:57:04
  rest of your day. You've been listening to Ministry X
• 1:57:08
  on Fringe Radio Network.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: We're back. We've got this story from Popular Mechanics. Your
• 1:59:17
  consciousness can jump through time, meaning gut feelings are memories
• 1:59:24
  from the future, scientists say. Even the CIA has publicly
• 1:59:32
  released data on the psychic phenomenon. Oh, there's something we've
• 1:59:37
  been talking about here. I'm gonna read a little bit
• 1:59:41
  from the article here. On an October night in nineteen
• 1:59:45
  eighty nine, a four year old girl was shocked awake
• 1:59:48
  by a phone ringing and then a scream. She crept
• 1:59:54
  out of her bedroom and tiptoed barefoot along the hallway's
• 1:59:57
  clammy vinyl tile, stumbling upon her mother he died in
• 2:00:04
  a car accident. She overheard mom yelp, voice cracking. The
• 2:00:10
  girl's dark, shining eyes stared ahead blank. From the moment
• 2:00:16
  she'd thrown her arms around her father as he boarded
• 2:00:20
  his flight for that fateful business trip, she knew she
• 2:00:24
  would never see him alive again. That little girl was me,
• 2:00:30
  and the strange phenomenon I experienced that night was one
• 2:00:40
  of my earliest episodes of precognition. It was in the
• 2:00:45
  shadows of that hallway, while I was awake in a
• 2:00:48
  way I'd never been before, when I realized that the
• 2:00:52
  dread I'd swallowed during that final goodbye at the airport
• 2:00:56
  was more than my imagination. What kind of deranged child
• 2:01:01
  stands completely still and tearless after overhearing that her father
• 2:01:06
  had died thousands of miles away. Maybe the child who
• 2:01:11
  already knew she would never again make tents out of
• 2:01:14
  his flannel shirts or breathe in his Pierre cardin Cologne.
• 2:01:20
  Though I had some fear of being seen as delusional,
• 2:01:23
  I shared this account over the phone with cognitive neuroscientist
• 2:01:28
  Julia Mossbridge, PhD. She listened intently. Afterwards, she launched into
• 2:01:35
  an impromptu interview, asking me questions as if I were
• 2:01:39
  one of her research subjects. Was that your earliest memory
• 2:01:44
  of precognition? Do you have frequent pre cognitive episodes? How
• 2:01:51
  can you tell one of these predictions is coming on?
• 2:01:55
  Then she revealed that she had asked these questions because
• 2:01:58
  she could relate. It was her own experience with these strange,
• 2:02:04
  sometimes unnerving, psychic gut feelings that led her to study
• 2:02:08
  them in the first place. Mosbridge says she has experienced
• 2:02:13
  this phenomenon in two distinct ways since she was seven
• 2:02:17
  years old, through precognitive dreams, during which she could gain
• 2:02:22
  knowledge about future events, and in waking episodes, when she
• 2:02:27
  consciously felt a sense of knowing about a future event.
• 2:02:33
  These have helped Mossbridge foretell events of the future that
• 2:02:36
  she would have had no other way of knowing. She says,
• 2:02:40
  these memories of the future could mean the notion of
• 2:02:43
  time might not be as linear as we imagine. Quote
• 2:02:50
  It's not hard to understand precognition, says Mossbridge, a Distinguished
• 2:02:55
  Senior Fellow in Human Potential at Florida Atlantic Universities Center
• 2:03:00
  for the Future of AI, Mind and Society. It's just
• 2:03:07
  hard to believe for people who haven't experienced it. We
• 2:03:11
  don't understand how time works. Even physicists are admitting they
• 2:03:16
  really don't know how it works. We are stuck on
• 2:03:21
  this idea that if you're truly scientific, you are going
• 2:03:25
  to think about time linearly. But is it really linear.
• 2:03:34
  A lot of the resistance to ideas about precognition and
• 2:03:38
  psychic phenomenon is about fear, the fear of the unknown,
• 2:03:42
  or the fear that things aren't the way they appear
• 2:03:45
  to be unquote. Far from the carnival style fortune tellers
• 2:03:52
  whose clairvoyance comes from glancing at their customers' social media
• 2:03:57
  accounts in a haze of incense. Psychologists and neuroscientists have
• 2:04:03
  been trying to figure out what exactly is behind precognition,
• 2:04:07
  which is considered a type of extrasensory perception commonly called ESP.
• 2:04:14
  This unshakable feeling that something will transpire in the future
• 2:04:19
  is long held among shamans and mystics, yet it remains
• 2:04:23
  unexplained by science. Precognition suggests that our consciousness might actually
• 2:04:31
  reach beyond the linear perception of time, according to parapsychologist
• 2:04:37
  Dean Rayden, PhD, Chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences,
• 2:04:42
  a nonprofit based in Nevado, California, dedicated to the study
• 2:04:47
  of unexplained phenomena. Raydon has been probing consciousness for decades
• 2:04:52
  and is the author of several books on the topic,
• 2:04:55
  including Entangled Minds, the award winning super Normal, and and
• 2:05:00
  Real Magic. Raydon and Mossbridge are ions colleagues who have
• 2:05:07
  collaborated in the past. Both want to show the validity
• 2:05:10
  of precognition through statistics gathered from experiments, and they support
• 2:05:16
  the view of nonlinear time. Quote time is not how
• 2:05:21
  we experience it on an everyday level, unquote, says Raydon,
• 2:05:25
  who is also an Associate Distinguished Professor of Integral and
• 2:05:29
  trans personal Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 7: Quote.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 6: In quantum mechanics, time may not even be part of
• 2:05:39
  our physical reality. It's not that time doesn't exist, it
• 2:05:44
  just behaves in a much stranger way than how it
• 2:05:47
  is seen through the lens of the human experience. Tend
• 2:05:52
  to agree with that statement. It suggests there's something probably
• 2:05:57
  associated with our consciousness that is different from our everyday
• 2:06:01
  experience of time. It's able to jump outside ordinary experience
• 2:06:05
  and receive information from the past or future. Now see
• 2:06:10
  as a Christian. This is how I explain prophecy. God
• 2:06:17
  is the only eternal one. God exists outside of time
• 2:06:22
  and space as a supreme entity and the central to history.
• 2:06:38
  Intersection of the supernatural into our physical reality, which is
• 2:06:43
  bound by time, occurred in the first incarnation of our
• 2:06:50
  Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Because this is an instance
• 2:06:56
  where God steps into time, steps into physical time in
• 2:07:04
  order to effect physical events and history, in this case,
• 2:07:09
  the central event in all of human civilization. I'm gonna
• 2:07:15
  continue reading a little bit. While he was at the
• 2:07:20
  University of Nevada in the mid nineteen nineties, Rayden created
• 2:07:24
  an experiment to prove it. His hypothesis was that if
• 2:07:28
  awareness transcended time, responses to an upcoming stimulus would appear
• 2:07:34
  before the stimulus itself appeared. Each participant was wired to
• 2:07:39
  an EEG machine and then told to press a button
• 2:07:43
  to display a random image on a computer. The image
• 2:07:47
  would either be positive, such as a sunrise, or negative,
• 2:07:51
  like a car crash. The EEG would gauge brain activity
• 2:07:57
  within the five seconds between the prime and the image.
• 2:08:02
  Predictions of seeing a positive image elicited little to no
• 2:08:05
  emotion or change in the brain activity. However, negative images
• 2:08:10
  caused increases in brain activity spikes that would occur before
• 2:08:15
  the negative images were even shown. Since then, this type
• 2:08:22
  of presentiment study has been successfully replicated about four dozen times,
• 2:08:28
  and in nineteen ninety five, the CIA even declassified its
• 2:08:31
  own precognition research after statiticians were hired to review its
• 2:08:37
  work and declared it statistically reliable. Oh well, I thought
• 2:08:42
  the CIA had terminated this research because it didn't yield
• 2:08:47
  any reliable results. Okay, more narratives collapsing here. When statistics
• 2:08:59
  keep pointing to the existence of a phenomenon, that should
• 2:09:02
  be enough proof, says moss Bridge, well, not necessarily, who
• 2:09:08
  is also founder of the Mossbridge Institute, where she and
• 2:09:12
  her team of researchers delve into experimental psychology and psychopathology,
• 2:09:19
  cognitive neuroscience AI, and the physics of time. She recalls
• 2:09:24
  a physicist doubting her experiment results because he believed in
• 2:09:28
  linear time. But Mossbridge's research has shown that most people
• 2:09:36
  are capable of some level of precognition. She thinks that
• 2:09:40
  more people would actually be aware of this ability, which
• 2:09:44
  is often looked at by society as delusional, if it
• 2:09:48
  were considered more mainstream.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 7: Okay, it goes without saying.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 6: Other cultures view precognition differently. Rayden has studied Tibetan oracles
• 2:09:58
  who anticipated the future. For in he realized that clairvoyance,
• 2:10:03
  more scientifically known as remote viewing, is the ability to
• 2:10:08
  see not only through time but also space long before
• 2:10:14
  news updates and weather forecasts. Shamans who were able to
• 2:10:19
  perceive the future through time and space would be able
• 2:10:22
  to predict whether it would rain or where their enemies
• 2:10:25
  were advancing from. Some cultures use psychoactive substances such as psilocybin,
• 2:10:33
  mushrooms or South American iahuasca tea to awaken the second
• 2:10:39
  sight or third eye. Further, precognition could be explained as
• 2:10:44
  a form of quantum entanglement. Rayden says particles that are
• 2:10:48
  entangled share the same information and behave the same way
• 2:10:52
  even from far away, which is what Einstein called spooky
• 2:10:57
  action at a distance. So there's more to this article,
• 2:11:04
  and this is a conversation that's I would say has
• 2:11:07
  been ongoing, and the article said that this particular experiment
• 2:11:12
  has been replicated dozens of times going back to the
• 2:11:18
  nineteen nineties. So every once in a while you get
• 2:11:22
  one of these articles, and this particular one, let me
• 2:11:26
  get the author's name for you, because she was describing
• 2:11:29
  a personal experience, and uh, where.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: Are you at?
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 6: Girl? Elizabeth Rayne is the author, And if you want
• 2:11:41
  to read the entire article, you got to go to
• 2:11:43
  popular Mechanics dot com. So traditionally, I mean, you think
• 2:11:53
  of science and the spirituality being at odds, or science
• 2:12:00
  and this idea of psychic phenomena are in conflict. But
• 2:12:05
  there's nothing really in the Bible that says that people
• 2:12:08
  can't have a vision of the future or even sort
• 2:12:12
  of an intuitive sense about future events. That doesn't mean
• 2:12:19
  you're dealing with demons. That doesn't mean you're consulting with
• 2:12:22
  demons and angels and spirit guides and this sort of
• 2:12:26
  thing which the Bible clearly warns about, especially communicating with
• 2:12:32
  the dead, deceased spirits of human beings. There's all kinds
• 2:12:38
  of entities that you can communicate with, and often some
• 2:12:43
  of the demonically possessed, you know, are able to know
• 2:12:52
  details about people's lives that they otherwise shouldn't know. They
• 2:12:59
  can have prophetic details about the future, They know other languages,
• 2:13:08
  you know, not known to the person who's being possessed.
• 2:13:16
  So even though we understand this as some unexplained spiritual phenomenon,
• 2:13:22
  there is probably a scientific explanation to why spirits seem
• 2:13:30
  to have this knowledge and we don't, because maybe we do,
• 2:13:40
  or it's in some bubble of our subconscious that we're
• 2:13:46
  not ordinarily able to retrieve, if that makes any sense. Anyways,
• 2:13:54
  interesting stuff to think about, interesting to see how it
• 2:13:59
  ties in to this episode. Actually, I'm going to forward
• 2:14:04
  this over to our buddy Trevor Trevor Lowman, Happy Fools Podcast,
• 2:14:11
  Bad Press podcast here on Fringe Radio Network, our resident
• 2:14:17
  neuroscientist PhD.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he's read up on some of this research. Anyways,
• 2:14:25
  I want to thank you for listening to the podcast.
• 2:14:29
  If you have any questions or comments, or if you
• 2:14:34
  have any topic suggestions that you'd like me to look into,
• 2:14:38
  if you want to be a guest on the show,
• 2:14:39
  if you want to give your own testimony of you know,
• 2:14:43
  clairvoyance that you've had, or you've got ghosts in your
• 2:14:47
  house or anything you want to talk about. If you're
• 2:14:50
  being haunted by demons or black eyed kids showing up
• 2:14:54
  at your doorstep, I definitely want to hear about it,
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