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Set 1: Draft Reaction (w/Golic) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.
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  Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to uh eighty.
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  Speaker 2: He was bo.
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  Speaker 1: Wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on
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  Speaker 1: Betty Rubbell. I honestly, until after the segment ended and
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  Speaker 1: we went to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: You're listening to Stu Gottson Company, Ster Goattson Company presented
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  Speaker 3: by FANDUL on the PANDUL Sportsbook.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Golig Senior is with us.
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  Speaker 3: He is headed out to his charity golf tournament, his
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  Speaker 3: annual charity golf tournament today. I mean he is looking good.
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  Speaker 3: He is looking thin, he's got a golf shirt on.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Golett Junior set them all up, so no technical problems.
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  Speaker 2: You were looking good, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: Did you guys not get the invitation? I was expecting
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  Speaker 4: the guys to be here. I did. Did Did they
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  Speaker 4: get lost?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know better than to invite us?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I wanted to run smoothly.
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  Speaker 6: Did you send it with the same carrier that stull
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  Speaker 6: sends my checks to?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much?
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  Speaker 2: Mike, he is going to keep making that joke, even
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  Speaker 2: though I pay him every two fucking weeks. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to keep making that joke. Yeah, two weeks the only
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  Speaker 2: joke he's gotten his arm, Michael, is that.
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  Speaker 4: A loose two weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks, it's a loose. It's a lose two weeks
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  Speaker 3: if I'm being honest. But he's still going to keep
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  Speaker 3: making the same dance.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, no, we're getting ready to go
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  Speaker 4: a lot of We teamed up with the Legacy weekend
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  Speaker 4: for the spring game for Notre Dame, and there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a few hundred former players here as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: big big golf tournament, big golf day of crappy golf.
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  Speaker 2: It was a big night for Taylor last night. This
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  Speaker 2: is special.
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  Speaker 3: He was invited to participate in the draft and watch
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  Speaker 3: a draft with both Chris and Phil Sims.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Really? How did that come about? Did you win a
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  Speaker 4: win a charity auction or something?
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  Speaker 2: Well that Sims is my friend. Then we asked them,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Invided myself like oh gotcha? Okay, one of those where
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  Speaker 4: it was a begrudgingly asking you, huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we do to you.
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  Speaker 3: But so, Mike, you know how we talk about the
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  Speaker 3: big bars for Halloween for candy, you know right, you
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  Speaker 3: love the big bars. They had boxes of big bars,
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  Speaker 3: just boxes of big bars. And at one point I
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  Speaker 3: text Taylor, Hey, how is Phil doing? And Phil sitting
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  Speaker 3: next to all the big bars? And what is Phil leading?
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  Speaker 3: And what does Taylor respond? Carrots and a diet coke.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, I mean, you know, it's like it's like Halloween
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  Speaker 4: when when people give out pennies or raisins or a
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  Speaker 4: toothbrush on Halloween. It's one fucking day. It's one day.
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  Speaker 4: Eat the candy, right, you got you got the candy
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  Speaker 4: to celebrate the draft, freaking candy. He's not gonna kill
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  Speaker 4: you one day.
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  Speaker 2: Phil having Garretts I loved.
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  Speaker 7: I love that draft experience because instead of when a
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  Speaker 7: pick would be made, hearing ESPN's breakdown, I would hear
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  Speaker 7: Chris Simms's breakdown, and I also heard Chris Simms's breakdowns
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  Speaker 7: leading up to the picks and stue. My favorite part
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  Speaker 7: was from the fourth pick on every time a team
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  Speaker 7: was said the pick is in. Simms would go, this
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  Speaker 7: has to be Sonny Styles. He had four, five, he
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  Speaker 7: said it picked six, and then he said it picked seven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then when he when Sonny Styles was the pick
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  Speaker 7: for Washington at seven, he turned to somebody and said, I.
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  Speaker 2: Told you it was.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, ha could say that for twenty
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  Speaker 7: five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: He was bound to get it right.
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  Speaker 3: And so when he eventually did get it right, when
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  Speaker 3: he did, Is turned and said, I told you.
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  Speaker 4: So, Yeah, that's how you do it. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so proud of him. I've never been proud
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  Speaker 2: of him.
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  Speaker 3: Prince Simms, Mike, it was interesting last night you had
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  Speaker 3: four of the first eleven picks from Ohio State. I
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  Speaker 3: guess that's why Ryan Day keeps saying, Hey, you want
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  Speaker 3: to come here, you better be a first or second
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  Speaker 3: round pick. Ohio State has really turned into like an
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  Speaker 3: NFL factory. It's incredible, oh it is.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, there, this used to be kind
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  Speaker 4: of Alabama, right, be close to winning the title every
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  Speaker 4: year and then sending guys to the draft. Now it's
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State. I mean again. I saw a couple of
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  Speaker 4: players who were drafted later and from Ohio State, and
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  Speaker 4: they're like, hey, we still kind of made it even
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  Speaker 4: though we weren't the first round or two, kind of
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  Speaker 4: taking a shot at Ryan Day. But listen, they get
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  Speaker 4: some of the best talent in the country, without question,
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  Speaker 4: and they they there's some teams you know that that
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  Speaker 4: with the portal. They minor in the portal. They don't
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  Speaker 4: major in the portal. Right, so you still have your recruits. Now,
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  Speaker 4: you'll lose some recruits obviously over the years, but they
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  Speaker 4: still they don't wholesale swap their teams, right.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this. I can't believe I'm
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  Speaker 3: thinking this. I can't believe Taylor agrees with me. I'm
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  Speaker 3: certain Mikey a does not. He was very bitter last night. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this.
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  Speaker 2: I like what the Jets did last night, Mike I do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, tell me I'm wrong, You're wrong. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: you going, Oh.
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  Speaker 4: So, Mikey, Yeah, you don't like what the Jets did?
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  Speaker 6: Now I don't. I don't at all. I think I
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  Speaker 6: think they swung and miss three times.
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  Speaker 2: Oh geez, really, what why?
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  Speaker 4: I like what they've done. I think Cooper I like
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  Speaker 4: Coop Road to Indiana could be a good slot guy. Right.
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  Speaker 2: They trained it up into the first round to get him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, obviously you got the pass rusher in Bailey,
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  Speaker 4: and that's who I would have taken, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the mock drafts that everybody does. Now, Bailey and r
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  Speaker 4: Vel Reachu was kind of you know who six and
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  Speaker 4: one a half dozen the other. But I liked Bailey
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more. And what what do you not
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  Speaker 4: love about Sadiq?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I mean that dude is a weapon.
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  Speaker 4: You got you got him last year. You got him
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  Speaker 4: last year.
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  Speaker 6: And Mason Taylor in the second round, and I do
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  Speaker 6: not try.
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  Speaker 4: He had some he had some.
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  Speaker 6: He had some minor injuries this year, but I mean
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  Speaker 6: in a four win team who didn't have minor injuries.
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  Speaker 6: It was it was simply that it seemed like they
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  Speaker 6: let analytics do it.
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  Speaker 4: They outthought the room.
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  Speaker 6: They they're gonna take two tight ends in the top
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  Speaker 6: two rounds of two back to back drafts. And I
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  Speaker 6: don't trust anybody in that organization.
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  Speaker 2: Any of this. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Are they gonna take it anyone last night and he
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  Speaker 3: would have That's the difference.
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  Speaker 4: Who would you have taken Mike who.
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  Speaker 6: I would have I would have taken r V L.
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  Speaker 6: Reves because I think David Bailey was to save my
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  Speaker 6: job pick. I think rvel Reese has a much higher ceiling.
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  Speaker 6: I think David Bailey is the guy that you can
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  Speaker 6: put in right now and go, please get us some
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  Speaker 6: sacks there, please. So I think that was a panic move.
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  Speaker 6: I think that was a please save my job and
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  Speaker 6: make us look better. I would have taken the Bolitnikoff
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  Speaker 6: winner from two years ago, Maleki Makay Lemon when he
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  Speaker 6: was sitting there for.
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  Speaker 2: You, because you have a gaping hole at.
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  Speaker 6: Your number two wide receiver spot, and they took a
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  Speaker 6: tight end and then you took it. You took a
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  Speaker 6: nice slot guy, you know, trading back up. And I
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  Speaker 6: like Denzel Boston a lot more than I like Omar Cooper.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I think Denzel I think Omar Cooper was underrated,
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  Speaker 4: quite honestly. I loved him a play in the slot.
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  Speaker 4: I think Sadiq is a monster. Way you look at
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  Speaker 4: the way tight ends are used in the NFL, you
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: look at brock Bauers again, not the blocking type, but
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  Speaker 4: more of the receiving type, and you're getting more NFL
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  Speaker 4: teams with two tight ends, one that can block a
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  Speaker 4: little more on pass catch in the other, which is pure.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he is a mismatch on on defendive defensive
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  Speaker 4: players that normally cover tight ends. He is a mismatch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I love Sadik.
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  Speaker 3: There were people Mikey who told us the upside on
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  Speaker 3: Sadiq was he could be.
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  Speaker 2: The best player in the draft five years from now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they said that. It was my God.
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  Speaker 2: It's not god.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I would never put a I never put
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  Speaker 4: a shirt on again if I were him smoked.
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  Speaker 2: Why if you look like.
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  Speaker 4: The way you're looking either. No, No, the shirt hides
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  Speaker 4: a lot to believe me, Sadik doesn't need a shirt.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, dude is just stoked.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love Mikey a turning into fucking mel
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  Speaker 3: kiper junior. Hie, you're just listening. I understand it. I'm
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  Speaker 3: with you. I've been a Jeff fan for forty years.
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  Speaker 3: You don't trust anyone making the decisions, but it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to say you don't like any of the three picks
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  Speaker 3: they made last night, ridiculously mad.
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  Speaker 4: Three better picks.
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  Speaker 3: What but Mike, you're not a fucking GM you don't
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  Speaker 3: evaluate talent.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Neither do they. I think I think that's the issue,
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  Speaker 4: is just it's the Jets making the pick, so you
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  Speaker 4: automatically go to the glass cracked, not the no.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've done ten drafts with him. He's never
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  Speaker 3: come away happy from the Jets draft. Last year, he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't happy with Mason Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's not happy with the d I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Hate Mason Taylor, and I liked and I like the
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  Speaker 6: Membu pick.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, congratulations, you like boy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So Stu Sim's analysis from the bar from the barn
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  Speaker 7: was they got three guys that should be able to
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  Speaker 7: help them right away. And he doesn't think that the
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  Speaker 7: Jets are AFC East Division winners, But the way he
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  Speaker 7: was talking was like, if these guys come in and
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  Speaker 7: hit right away, there's a chance for the Jets to
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  Speaker 7: make some noise in the AFC. And Omar Cooper Junior
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  Speaker 7: playing in New York City.
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  Speaker 3: O cj OCJ listen good, attempt to excited.
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  Speaker 4: Good in Baylor, in uh In Bailey and Sadik. You
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  Speaker 4: have two two big play potential guys and a Cooper.
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  Speaker 4: You have a steady guy who's who when it's third
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  Speaker 4: and six is going to get you seven or more.
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  Speaker 4: I like them now. Listen, they have a ton of
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  Speaker 4: holes and they're not going to compete this year. But
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  Speaker 4: I I like the young foundation there.
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  Speaker 3: I think Mikey is really coming from the standpoint it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter who we take last night, Geno quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, understand it now I get Yeah, yeah, we have
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  Speaker 4: to wait till we're pastor Gino Smith era. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we have to go to the Ty Simpson era and
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: H Mike so, uh, your guy, Jeremiah Love, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 3: running back goes to Arizona. My only concern there. I
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  Speaker 3: know how great of a player he is. My concern
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  Speaker 3: is that team is so bad. Well, he might get
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: the ball five hundred times.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, look what happened Ashton genty. You
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  Speaker 4: know we went to the Raiders. They struggling the old line.
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  Speaker 4: If you're picking high, you're a bad team and you
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: got to go through the growing pain. So they have
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  Speaker 4: to they have to help on the O line, without question.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean that's what bad teams do. They pick.
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  Speaker 4: They pick game changing players, and Love is he's not
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  Speaker 4: a normal running back. He can run, he can go
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  Speaker 4: in the slot, he can be a wide receiver. And oh,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, the most thing not talked about the
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  Speaker 4: most with running backs. He can block, he can pick
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  Speaker 4: up a blitz. He is an easy three down back.
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  Speaker 4: Uh So, I mean I I think it was a
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  Speaker 4: great pick. But yeah, just like Gentis struggled with the
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  Speaker 4: Raiders at times, Jeremiah Love, he may have to make
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  Speaker 4: his own holes or do his own thing, but he's
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  Speaker 4: a he could be the best player in the track.
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  Speaker 4: And then to have Dadarian Price go thirty two, so yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the first round as well for a guy who didn't
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  Speaker 4: play as much. Obviously, they split time, but Love got
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  Speaker 4: more of the time.
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  Speaker 3: So there are teams that are bad that take someone
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  Speaker 3: like Love. I know he's going to be a great player,
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: but they take him at three. And then there are
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: teams who win the Super Bowl, get rid of the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, trade him away, get them away to the
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, and take the running back from Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame that no one's ever heard of.
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  Speaker 2: That's a Super Bowl winning team.
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  Speaker 4: While Love initially is going to make more money than Price,
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  Speaker 4: obviously the third pick to the thirty second pick, Price
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  Speaker 4: is in a much better situation. I mean, oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's got to be like, are you kidding me?
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: I just hit the lottery.
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: Yes, so Stu from The Barn, Sims was going over
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: who the Seahawks could pick there, yeah, and his co
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  Speaker 5: host on on but Connor Rodgers. By the way, Connor
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  Speaker 5: Rodgers might have been my biggest winner of the night.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: That guy. He's good, Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So Sims was going through who the Seahawks should pick,
• 12:46
  Speaker 7: and Connor Rodgers just stopped him and said, how about
• 12:49
  Speaker 7: Genarian Price? And Sims said, I don't know if the
• 12:52
  Speaker 7: Seahawks have the balls to do that, and then they
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  Speaker 7: showed they have the balls to I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Think Sim's and the balls styles there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, again, you got rid of the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: MVP and Kenneth Walker. I mean you so you had
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: a hole there, man, I mean I know, I know
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  Speaker 4: they signed a couple of running backs in free agency,
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  Speaker 4: but nobody who was really going to take the spot. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, Price can return kicks as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about the worst picks in the draft with
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  Speaker 6: the Jets. But I want to get to the second
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  Speaker 6: worst pick in the draft. I go do it and
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: ask you about the Rams using their one first round pick,
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  Speaker 6: their gifted first round pick in the top thirteen to.
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  Speaker 2: Go get a guy who is it going to help
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  Speaker 2: you this year? Wait?
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, Simpson, let me ask it this way, okay,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of people are praising the Rams for
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  Speaker 3: making that pick even though they're in win now mode,
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: but they're always thinking about the future.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me put it this way.
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  Speaker 3: If the Jets went up, if it was anyone but
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Sean McVay who made that pick, would it be as
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  Speaker 3: popular as it's been.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see the post draft presser? That's what I
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: would say. I mean, like he was given one word.
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  Speaker 4: Answers talked about how he'll compete with Stepson for the
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: back he did. He was normally he's giddy after a draft.
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  Speaker 4: Stu dude looked like somebody he had sour milk in
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  Speaker 4: his cereal. It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was stunning, really because it's like, wait, well, hold on,
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  Speaker 3: I just figure that him and less Sneve were always
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: on the same end.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean, I think just what Mike Yea said,
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  Speaker 4: and I think what every every person is saying. You're
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  Speaker 4: in win now mode. You and Seattle were the two
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  Speaker 4: best teams in the league last year. That could have
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: been the Super Bowl, the NFC title game, and so
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  Speaker 4: get somebody that helps. Now I'm not sold on ty
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  Speaker 4: Simpson even be in the future quarterback of this team.
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  Speaker 4: So you take him when you picking thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 3: This is a rare case where it would have made
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  Speaker 3: more sense for the Jets to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how about it? I mean, but I mean now
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  Speaker 4: now they're they're doing the Ty Simpson thing the right
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  Speaker 4: way do I still am hung on he only had
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  Speaker 4: fifteen starts. He's got to wait. I know other analysts
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  Speaker 4: and like, oh, he's a great passer, he struggled towards
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: the end of the year. All this blah blah blah
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  Speaker 4: blah breaking down the stuff. I get it, But the
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  Speaker 4: fifteen starts kind of hangs there. So you knew he
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: shouldn't start right away and he won't obviously, But at
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: the thirteenth pick of the draft, you are saying, Ty Simpson,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: you are the future quarterback of the Los Angeles Rams
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  Speaker 4: and Stu you got to go on online, yeah and
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: watch McVeigh. I mean it is eye opening.
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  Speaker 3: Right, what if less Snead well, I guess McVeigh would
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: know it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Staff retiring in a year, right, it seems.
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  Speaker 4: I mean McVeigh would know that. I mean McVeigh without
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  Speaker 4: a doubt, without a doubt. I was stunned at his reaction.
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  Speaker 3: Plus you have to make that uncomfortable call to Matthew
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  Speaker 3: Stafford and explain.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: It, you know well, and they did. They did talk
• 16:10
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• 16:12
  Speaker 4: it all right. As long as Stafford's playing the way
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Stafford is, He's got nothing to worry about. He'll plays.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, this could be a like a you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit there and say Brett fav Aaron
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Rodgers because there are two Hall of Famers. But for
• 16:24
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• 16:27
  Speaker 4: could be sitting that long.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you this McVeigh needs to get over himself.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, he has no idea. What if Stafford does
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: retire in a year and this guy turns into something
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: that's close to Matthew Stafford, is he gonna you know that,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: he's gonna praise Lessted.
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  Speaker 2: I mean enough, that's what the.
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• 16:43
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• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course, let's.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Let's get somebody who can make an impact and not
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: somebody who is going to be holding a clipboard.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, they were play away from the Super Bowl last year.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and you didn't help yourself at pick thirteen
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: for this year.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Well, if Stafford gets hurt, yeah, well.
• 17:01
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• 17:05
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  Speaker 7: Mike, what did you think about the Giants using their
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  Speaker 7: two first round picks, their two top ten picks, one
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: getting Rvel Reeves, who if it didn't really seem like
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: he would have felled to them at five, and then
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: them kind of shoring up that offensive line with Maui Noah, oh.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I again, I love I love their multiple picks. I
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like the Jets multiple picks. I like the Browns multiple picks.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I think the teams helped themselves and Arvel Reese. You know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I had Bailey over Reese, but just kind of ya
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: a hair. Reese is a little more versatile. He can
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: play off ball, He can be an edge guy as well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: and they needed help on that old line. Now, No,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: he could, he could play the right tackle, he could
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: kick down to guard. You have obviously a good left
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: tackle already, so it'll be interesting where he ends up
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: at right tackle or or or guard. But he's a
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: he's a fricking tank, Yeah he is. He is a
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: hell of an offensive lineman who's been highly rated since
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: high school. Uh so, no, I I like both their picks.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: With Brian Burns Thibodeau a dual carter and now rbl Reese.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Should any team be able.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: To ever pass the ball against the Giants, should the
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: quarterback just fall down?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I mean that that's that's the way Harball likes to
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: go line D line right right right up the spine
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: or or or the big guys the old line and
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: D line. So he got what he wanted. So yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I mean that's that's one of the things that you
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: want to do. You want to put pressure on the quarterback,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and then you want to protect your quarterback. So I
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I definitely think they handled their business pretty well.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Mikey A looks like it appears that our boys, Spags
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: walked into Andy Reid's office gold Egs boy and said, hey, Andy,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: get me some fucking players, because Andy, eating the cheese,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: went out and got Spags a couple of players.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Mike, Well, I mean, going up there, they didn't think
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Delane would be there, and he was the best cornerback
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: in this draft. You know, in a mock draft. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: don't do trades in a mock draft, but I had
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: them taking Delaine at nine, But I thought was he
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: wasn't going to be there right at nine with teams
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: ahead of him.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That needed because they lost McDuffie.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Right, they lost to both their corners, you know, I mean, yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: they had to fill the slot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And then and then they picked the kid from from Clemson, right,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Peter Woods. Yes, Uh, a d tackle to go with
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones. Again. I liked their multiple picks, but they
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: had to get a dB. Had to and it cost
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: him some assets obviously to move up and do it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: But it was a need position.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Uh. Listen, I know you love this stuff the way
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: that I do. How about the reaction. I don't know
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the kid's name, but the kid who was selected by
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh by the Steelers in the first round and his
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: reaction with his family around him was just fantastic.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Did you see that?
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the kid from Nigeria Max. I won't even tire.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I heard him pronounce his last name. I won't. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: won't try and butcher it. But a big, big dude,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: big tackle who did not start playing football until Juco
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: until junior college was the first time he played football,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: and now he's the number twenty one pick in the draft.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I mean absolutely amazing. Yeah, his reaction, I mean, listen,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that's what it's all about, right, Yeah, I mean, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: the difference is in reaction. How about Desmond Bane, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: mean good or I'm sorry Ruben Baine. I mean, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: thought he was going to kill somebody. He looked like
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: he was ticked off. I mean the interview he did
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: was like one word. I don't know if he was
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: mad where he got drafted. He got drafted what fifteen
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: like Tampa. I don't know if he was ticked about that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: That's a spot for him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, But the difference is in people's reaction.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: The one dude is just like, thank god he's got
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: drafted for a guy just start playing football a few
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: years ago. Yeah, but yeah, it was a cool I
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: like how they did it in Pittsburgh. I like how
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: before their pick they played the stick song that they
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: play in the second half of the game. And I
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: like how they had the other other picks, the calls
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: from the other picks. I thought they did it well.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: And man, can it be any more popular the hundreds
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: of thousands of people that blows my mind.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Nope, Stu, I don't know if you saw this, but
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the Steelers were actually.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: On the phone with McKay lemon. Yeah, and they were
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: telling him, hey, we're picking you at twenty one. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: while McKay Lemon's like, oh my god, I'm gonna get
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: drafted by the Steelers. The Eagles couldn't reach him because
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: the Eagles traded ahead to draft McKie Lemon, right, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: they couldn't get in contact with him to be like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: hey we're drafting you.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Well, Hawie Roseman doesn't call anybody, only picks up the phone.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, how about it. But yeah, that was
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: And so as soon as they picked mackayle Lemon, you
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: know a J. Brown, is that that he's going to
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: be gone?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, so I like mckaye Lemon. I'm a
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: fan of his. So uh but yeah, that that was interesting.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Wait, so Lemon went from thinking he was going to
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: be a Steeler to actually being an Eagle.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an upgrade, that's a win.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Eagles made a couple of deals. How about the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Eagles and the Cowboys making the deal? Yeah that's Hatriots
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: and Bills.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But it's not great.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Right. He went from a team that doesn't have a
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: quarterback to a team where they're still not certain if
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: they have a quarterback, even though he's won a Super Bowl.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Yeah, but cats and dogs getting along
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: out there with some of these trade partners.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, what do you think Bayon is pissed off about it?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think he's tired of hearing. Hey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: if my arms weren't eighth of an inch longer, I
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: would have been a top five pick of the draft.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean you you think about, uh, the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: edge rushers, because we had nine off offensive linemen, right,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I mean to two guards and seven offensive tackles. We
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: had four edge guys and Bain was second. I mean now,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: now Reese may go down and play some edge, you
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: know for the Giants. I get that, But it was Bailey, Bain,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Mesidor and and the kid Fock from Auvard who's a
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: friggin freak. But yeah, I don't know if Bain was
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: mad he dropped out of the top ten. But Boyle
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: boy Or, he's just that's just his attitude. Which, hey,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: if that's his attitude, he fits in football.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Just he'll do just fine. Mike, we could listen to
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: all the draft experts. Mel Kuiper's the mikey A's after
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: the draft talk about whether a player was good or
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: bad or not. But if you really want to know
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: if you've got a good player, when a player reacts
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: the way Malik Gabors did when the Boys got Caleb
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Downs because he was live. He was doing a live show.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: And when they when the Cowboys got Caleb Downs, He's like, man,
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I gotta go up against these guys. Why is that
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: he was so disheartened about having to go up against
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: this guy because they played against each other. Uh yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: when when Downs was at Alabama, That's that's really the
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: tell for.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Me, Caleb Downs is he could You know, you sit
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: there and you sit there and you try and pick
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: who's going to be the offensive rookie of the year
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: defensive rookie of the year. And I heard some people
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: picking Caleb Downs and I don't think he will be
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: And that's not because he's not going to be great.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: You look at what how do how do players get
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: picked for awards? It's by stats. Caleb Downs isn't going
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: to have six or seven interceptions, He's not going to have,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of sacks. But what he's going
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to do is he's going to run that defense. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: we've seen the safety position now and especially by Kyle Hamilton. Now,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: downs isn't the size of Kyle Hamilton, but where you
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: can play off the ball, where you can play linebacker depth,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: where you can play on the line of scrimmage. This
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: guy is a sure tackler and he is going to
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: just be kind of the lynchpin of up the gut.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: You talk about d tackles, inside backers and safeties, Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: safeties do so much now of where they line up.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I love him, Love this kid. Now to your point,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: he shouldn't be covering thelak neighbors a whole lot. You're
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: not going to put a safety on the leak neighbors.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: But what he could do is he can run that secondary.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, Mike, say what you will about Jerry Jones and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the Cowboys.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: They seem to handle.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: The draft pretty well. They do consistently handle the draft
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: pretty well.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And one of the great ones is way back
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: when when Jerry Jones got talked out of out of
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: drafting Johnny mane Zach Martin instead. That was a big turn. Yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: that works out really well. You're right, they draft well
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and then you know they struggle paying like on time,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: they do end up paying unless they trade a Michael.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But now this thing, yeah, now this thinge with George Pickings. Hey,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: you're gonna play it on the franchise tag and of
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: course George is George isn't going to turn down twenty
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: seven million dollars. No, no, no, I mean the players.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I've said this forever when when I when I was playing,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: when free agency started and then you had the franchise tag,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: players loved it because they were getting the average of
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the top five players in the league. Now they hate
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: it because it's a one year thing and it stops
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: them from getting the long term deal.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: And with that, with that Caleb downtrade, the Cowboys just
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: moved up a spot and they essentially just got those
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: picks back because they moved back from twenty to twenty
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: three when they drafted uh Malachi Lawrence, the edge rive
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: from from UCF. Let's just make a pack right now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: If the Cowboys defense looks competent regardless of stats, we'll
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: give Caleb Downs Rookie of the Year.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: We have to make a pack.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Do that, you're that, I mean, we can do that,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: but voters won't voter makes right because they don't watch
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: all the games so they make stats, nor do they
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: make Yes, that's exactly right.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: But if if the Cowboys defense looks competent, our show
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: can give Caleb downs the Rookie of the Year, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: then we can have Caleb Downs on and present it
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: to him that Yes, yes, I made you the Commissioner
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: of Sports, so I'm good with that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a good one. That's a good long range plan, Taylor.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: He's always thinking, thinking ahead.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Very good. Wow, Wow, I can't wait for you to hear.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, like, listen, if Simpson turns into
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: this Hall of Fame quarterback, that's better than Stafford. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: don't think less sneed should let McVay coju how about that?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'll happen.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: The best coach of the game right now? Yeah?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: All right, Mike, we appreciate it. You're headed out to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: your golf tournament. You excited for today?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Oh? I mean I haven't. I've played golf once since
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I had my shoulder replaced. We call it the Subpar
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Classic for a reason. It's a much crappy golf, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: we have a lot of fun. There's a lot of
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: obviously drinks and food on the course. And uh, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: it'll be this year, like I said, a bunch of
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: former players, so it'll be kind of like a mini
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: reunion on the course. So it'll be fun. I'm really
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: sorry the invitations didn't get to you, guys.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's okay. Hopefully next year, don't hope. Hold,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: but you love today.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: You're raising money for a good cause.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: You're going to be with people that you love, and
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be with people that love you and your family.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So that's great.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool weekend. I'm glad we kind of
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: change it to this weekend to kind of partner up
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: with the football program. So yeah, should be should be fun.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: But obviously it did not stop me from talking football
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: with my favorite guys.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And so, Mike, what do you do after the golf tournament?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You you know, you just have the draft on the
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: entire weekend, right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Actually right after the golf tournament. Sydney and Ben my
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: daughter Sidney and her husband Ben, who played for the
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Bears for a number of years and now is about
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: to enter residency in the neurology department.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: A real underachiever so he wasted his time playing for
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the Bears.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: My god, their second son, Joe, right after golf is
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: getting christened here by Father Nate, the the the priest
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: for the football team. He is all the other kids,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: all my three other grandkids. So yeah, we're doing a
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: christening right after the golf. So if I get to
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I get too drunk playing golf and I got to
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: walk into church, My god, that could be tough.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah what a special day tailor.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Huh they're putting the draft on in the church or
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: how does that work?
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well we Father Nate again is the priest for
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: the football team, so we understand.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Quick prayers back to football.
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: He gets it, absolutely all right, all right, all right, Mike,
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: enjoy the golf tournament, the christening, enjoy the weekend, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: enjoy the remainder of the draft.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: We appreciate your time as always.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Yep, you got guys.