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- 0:03From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
- 0:06us on a Journey to the Fringe. Hello and welcome
- 0:16to Journey to the Fringe, where sometimes we
- 0:18follow up very vaguely on old episodes that we
- 0:22do and Chelsea. Turns out he went to Bahrain
- 0:26to become an oil intermediary. Yeah, yeah, he
- 0:31had no job prospects and he had just been disgraced.
- 0:34So it's like I'm gonna get into the oil business
- 0:36Oh fuck. Are you serious? Yeah, I knew that sounded
- 0:40vaguely familiar. It didn't go well What a jackass
- 0:46yeah Anyhow, we are your podcast host Taylor
- 0:49and Chelsea. Here today, apparently doing a two
- 0:51parter on something. That's all I know. And it
- 0:54starts off on a bright note for some that follow
- 0:56us regularly. Anyhow, I'll let Chelsea take it
- 0:59from here. This week, I'm covering an asshole
- 1:02of a totally unheard of different kind for this
- 1:07podcast. More of a fun, lovable asshole. And
- 1:10I know with this sentence, your mind must just
- 1:14be reeling. Wondering what kind of asshole I'm
- 1:18covering Taylor, right? Well, I would assume
- 1:21it's a British Andy episode. You would assume
- 1:24based on that intro. Yeah. I think that's what
- 1:29you were assuming. I'm going to be hitting you
- 1:31with some cold hard facts this week as I cover
- 1:35a leader in tabloid journalism that will undoubtedly
- 1:39give you a heavy dose of nostalgia. And the question
- 1:43is not. Who is the asshole? But what is this
- 1:47asshole? As we take a look into the enchanted,
- 1:50wonderful world of the Weekly World News. There
- 2:01was some sort of weird synchronicity and can
- 2:03I just ask you please to give me the facts in
- 2:07like a warm, soft style? I don't, I just feel
- 2:11like that's gonna feel better. I don't know,
- 2:13but I don't want to be hit by cold heart. I want
- 2:15soft and warm. Okay, warm, soft facts. Yeah.
- 2:18Okay. Okay. Well, here's the first warm, soft
- 2:22act. The Weekly World News launched in 1979 by
- 2:27Generoso Pope Jr. How's that name for you? Do
- 2:31you like it? I was not expecting it to go the
- 2:34way it did after Generoso. Like every word after
- 2:39that is a surprise. There's only two. I know.
- 2:41It just kept going too. Undoubtedly, one of the
- 2:44strongest names I think I'll ever hear in my
- 2:46life. He founded not only the Weekly World News,
- 2:51he also founded the National Enquirer, go figure.
- 2:53No way. I know, right? And you've never heard
- 2:57of Generoso Pope Junior? No. You would think
- 3:00he would be a common household name. The magazine
- 3:03represented the extremes of checkout counter
- 3:07attention -grabbing tactics for nearly 30 years,
- 3:11renowned for its outlandish cover stories often
- 3:14based on supernatural or paranormal themes and
- 3:17an approach to news that teetered on the satirical.
- 3:21I remember it from the checkout lines growing
- 3:23up and there was only something going on with
- 3:26Batboy. I totally remember seeing these going
- 3:28to the grocery store as a kid. I don't know that
- 3:31I actually ever picked one up and looked at it
- 3:34and do you ever remember seeing it outside of
- 3:37the grocery store never not well sorry there
- 3:40i remember it distinctly in the movie so i married
- 3:44an axe murderer yes the mom yes that's where
- 3:48the axe murder story comes from See that was
- 3:51my only reference and I'm thinking like did I
- 3:54ever go to someone's house and like see it in
- 3:56their pile of newspapers or anything? Never once.
- 4:00It is very nostalgic to think back that people
- 4:02did in fact used to have magazine stacks. Yep
- 4:04they sure did. You do not see those anymore.
- 4:07You really don't and it's very sad when I look
- 4:10back that I don't even think I grabbed one and
- 4:12now that I'm old enough to go to the grocery
- 4:15store and do my own shopping I don't remember
- 4:17the demise of it. I don't have a hard memory.
- 4:20of going to the grocery store and being like,
- 4:22oh, that's not there anymore. I would welcome
- 4:25seeing one of these at the grocery store checkout
- 4:27now. Yeah. And just, if you guys ever feel nostalgic
- 4:30for it and you want to do it the cheap way, I
- 4:32am just going to give you this life hack. Your
- 4:34local library has basically a subscription to
- 4:37every magazine you could want. So just go get
- 4:39a copy there. Nice. I do know that my library
- 4:42has them. You're not allowed to check them out
- 4:44though. And I just don't feel like going that
- 4:46weekly world news is definitely not something
- 4:48they have. So you see that, but I don't know
- 4:51if you ever looked. I have looked. Oh, okay.
- 4:54Definitely no weekly world news. Was that part
- 4:56of your research for this episode? Yes. Okay.
- 4:59No, I've looked at the magazines. I would know
- 5:02the weekly world news is there. Do you like recall
- 5:05when you stopped seeing them? No, it might just
- 5:09be when we stop shopping with our parents. I
- 5:12feel like there's a large gap in time where I
- 5:16was just not at grocery stores. I don't know
- 5:18what I was doing in life at that point but I
- 5:21feel like there's a young version of myself where
- 5:25I was just not at grocery stores. Basically when
- 5:27we reached adulthood was the introduction of
- 5:30the self checkout and there is not magazines
- 5:32in the self checkout line. That's true. And for
- 5:35a long time, I did the self checkout line because
- 5:38I was without child and cares and worries and
- 5:41I was looking to be expedient. Yes. Yeah. OK.
- 5:45And you're dealing with life's ethical issues
- 5:47of I can't find the specific barcode. Maybe I
- 5:50just pretend it's a different apple that's 50
- 5:52cents less per pound. But I could go to jail.
- 5:55So. In my memory, I don't have a specific one
- 5:59where I'm like, huh, it's not there any longer.
- 6:03And I do go to the regular checkouts now because
- 6:05I have to have a fairly large grocery shop and
- 6:07I can't say. I remember seeing the weekly world
- 6:10news there. I definitely remember seeing like
- 6:11the National Enquirer or things along that. Oh,
- 6:15everything there. Those are still there. Yeah.
- 6:17There's totally nothing I actually want to pick
- 6:19up and take a look through. Not at all. Celebrity
- 6:22gossip. Not bad boy. Not bad boy. Oh, I would
- 6:24be all over bad boy if bad boy was there. And
- 6:28I probably would pick up a copy. I'm not going
- 6:30to lie. I would be the person that would have
- 6:33a copy of that magazine if I was old enough.
- 6:36Though I don't remember. when I was a kid being
- 6:39like compelled enough to be like can you buy
- 6:41this for me? No, even as a kid I was barely certain
- 6:45it was fake. Yeah, oh yeah. And as interested
- 6:50as I always was in the paranormal I never really
- 6:53wanted a weekly world news. It's all very interesting
- 6:56psychological stuff. Anyhow, it was reporting
- 7:00mostly fictional news. stories in the United
- 7:04States from 1979 to 2007. To be fair, how is
- 7:09that different from any of the assholes that
- 7:10we've covered? No, it's true. And it is mostly
- 7:14fictional news that most of the assholes are
- 7:16covering as well. Yeah, they just think they
- 7:18can tell when it's fictional and you don't need
- 7:20to know. Yeah. So as I was saying, this is in
- 7:24the time that I wouldn't have been accompanying
- 7:27my parents on grocery trips where it falls off
- 7:30the map and you're not seeing it in grocery stores
- 7:32anymore into my young adulthood where I'm also
- 7:35not frequenting grocery stores. In the 2000s,
- 7:38the circulation of the weekly world news peaked
- 7:41at 1 .2 million per issue, which is pretty good
- 7:45for... That is really good for just making the
- 7:47shit up as you go. Yeah. We'll get into exactly
- 7:51what was going into it, but it's pretty high.
- 7:54especially for me, like not having anyone in
- 7:58particular where we can place having bought one
- 8:01of these. And Chelsea, I don't know if this was
- 8:04part of your research, but I am curious. Do you
- 8:06know how much it costs an issue? I really don't.
- 8:08Like the times I remember seeing it. Currency
- 8:11was not something I really valued. No, and I
- 8:14don't know it wasn't a part of my research But
- 8:16I would put it on par for probably it was probably
- 8:19the same price as most magazines, right? No,
- 8:22I would or do you think it's cheap? This is just
- 8:24me speculating. It was published entirely in
- 8:27black and white So it was probably just higher
- 8:31than a newspaper I don't know that I would put
- 8:34it as high as an like a people magazine or something
- 8:37like that But I could be wrong When I look at
- 8:40magazines now, highly unaffordable to my overall
- 8:43budget. Magazines back in the day were like three
- 8:46or four bucks or something. And I know that because
- 8:49I bought like J -14. Why? What was it? Why something?
- 8:54I don't know. I used to buy GQ because I thought
- 8:56it was incredibly suave and cool and fashion
- 9:01forward as a as a young man. Mine's more teenage
- 9:05girls. I used to buy Mads and Cracks too. Why
- 9:08four maybe? Yeah, GQ is just like the Mads and
- 9:11Cracks. Yeah, same thing. What's the difference?
- 9:14Yeah. OK, so Weekly World News went on to thrive
- 9:18online between 2009 and 2015. Get out of here.
- 9:22Did it become a cult? No, we're going to talk
- 9:25about that a little more in a little bit. But
- 9:28the Weekly World News was first published going
- 9:30back all the way to the beginning. and take a
- 9:33guess take a guess where do you think oh what
- 9:35what country city where no sit let's go with
- 9:39state what state was it first published in i'm
- 9:41gonna say new jersey florida okay makes sense
- 9:45yeah it makes sense first published in lantana
- 9:48florida it moved to boca rattan in the late 90s
- 9:51which would explain a lot it was unique as a
- 9:54tabloid because it was printed entirely in black
- 9:57and white The Weekly World News traditionally
- 10:00claimed that it always printed the truth, but
- 10:03many stories appeared to have comedic intent,
- 10:07more so as time went by. I guess this was a time
- 10:11that you were able to get away with things like
- 10:14that, saying that they're true and they're 100
- 10:16% not. As recalled by Joe Berger, a former White
- 10:20House correspondent who served as a Weekly World
- 10:24News editor, from 1981 to 2001, which is a weird.
- 10:29You got involved like politically, like fairly
- 10:31high up. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, totally weird sentence.
- 10:35He said, quote, about 80 % of the stories were
- 10:39clipped from newspapers. We had three or four
- 10:43clippers who were surrounded by mountains of
- 10:45newspapers. We spent the day looking at newspapers
- 10:48throughout the world clipping weird stories.
- 10:51OK, that makes sense where the name came from
- 10:52then. Yeah, about 50 % were about people narrowly
- 10:57escaping death, someone falling off a cliff or
- 11:00hanging off a tree branch for four days until
- 11:02they were seems to me where they kind of got
- 11:06their start was looking at oddities around the
- 11:10world, which I can totally get behind. I can
- 11:13totally get behind the whole thing to be honest
- 11:15with you, but they're kind of taking stories
- 11:17from everywhere. It's just like these are weird.
- 11:20Let's put them in our little publication. The
- 11:23Weekly World News never publicly contradicted
- 11:26the accuracy of its own stories until 2004 when
- 11:30it began stating, the reader should suspend disbelief
- 11:34for the sake of enjoyment." And I just love that
- 11:38we grew up in a world where we can see this on
- 11:41a newsstand and it was sold as the complete truth.
- 11:46Whereas today all you're hearing is fake news
- 11:50and what's AI, what's not. You can't tell the
- 11:54truth. You have AI warnings and you don't know
- 11:58what to believe sometimes. But this is just on
- 12:01the shelves. The weekly world news could not
- 12:03exist in the way it did today. No, not at all.
- 12:07There's no room for it, no. Which is, it's like
- 12:11a little bit, it's sad, but it's also like a
- 12:14little bit gives you like the warm fuzzies inside.
- 12:18But no, it would have a bad following today if
- 12:21it existed today. Like it would be on par with
- 12:25what's going on. Oh, totally. The weekly world
- 12:28news ran strange but true stories such as, quote,
- 12:31devote Christian attacked and he's the one fined.
- 12:35referring to British street evangelist Harry
- 12:38Hammond. Other verifiable stories printed by
- 12:41the tabloid included those of a giant mutant
- 12:44hog monster attacking Georgia and the arrest
- 12:47of Tallahassee Florida man whose pants were on
- 12:50fire at the time. Chelsea, I'm just going to
- 12:52say those articles all actually sound like they
- 12:55did in fact happen. See, here's the thing. It
- 12:57started with articles that were true, which is
- 13:00nice. Yeah, you raise a fair point there. Yeah.
- 13:03Yeah, it sounds like work. publications from
- 13:06all these other different world newspapers at
- 13:09the time. But that does sound like work, you're
- 13:11right. Yeah, it also reported on the discovery
- 13:14of an infant dragon preserved in formaldehyde,
- 13:18proving the existence of dragons, although this
- 13:21was later proven to be a hoax, I guess. It also
- 13:25quoted Vatican exorcist Father Gabriel Amorth
- 13:28on Pope John Paul II's battle with Satan and
- 13:32ran a story on the trademark between O, the Oprah
- 13:35Magazine, and the German erotic periodical also
- 13:39named O. Oh. I wish I would have taken a look
- 13:45at that one, honestly. Which one? The O one.
- 13:51The clear choice of those two. Other common weekly
- 13:55world news stories involved alien abductions,
- 13:58the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, time travel,
- 14:02predictions of an oncoming depression or the
- 14:04apocalypse, or other newly found lost prophecies
- 14:08or religious relics. There were also characters
- 14:11who in later years became stock pictures in weekly
- 14:15world news stories, most famously Batboy. A half
- 14:18-bat, half -boy discovered in West Virginia caverns.
- 14:22Did not fight a single crime, unfortunately.
- 14:25And P. Lod, an extraterrestrial who became involved
- 14:29in Earth politics and had an affair with Hillary
- 14:31Clinton. Since the weekly world news began to
- 14:34publish online, its stories have occasionally
- 14:37been treated as legitimate news stories by readers
- 14:40unaware of the nature of the publication. More
- 14:43about it going online in a moment. In late 2010,
- 14:48the Weekly World News ran a satirical story written
- 14:51by Frank Lake indicating that the Los Angeles
- 14:54Police Department intended to purchase 10 ,000
- 14:57jetpacks at a total cost of $1 billion. The story
- 15:02was reported as fact by the Fox and Friends Morning
- 15:05News Show. I love this. Yeah, that sounds like
- 15:09Fox. That does sound like them. I know. They're
- 15:13like the start of fake news, I think. The Weekly
- 15:16World News reported twice, once in 2011 and once
- 15:20in 2012, that the social media website Facebook
- 15:23would shut down. Both times the claim was interpreted
- 15:27by some as genuine. The second time Facebook
- 15:29issued an official reply to the technological
- 15:32blog Mashable stating, quote, the answer is no.
- 15:36So please help us put an end to this silliness.
- 15:39We didn't get the memo about shutting down and
- 15:42there's lots to do. So we'll just keep cranking
- 15:44away like always, end quote. Whether partially
- 15:48fictional or wholly true the writing style remained
- 15:52as fact -based as possible end quote Whether
- 15:58partially fictional or wholly true the writing
- 16:01style remained as fact -based as possible Bob
- 16:05Lind a writer at the weekly world news recalled
- 16:08for mental floss quote We wrote these things
- 16:10straight for people who wanted to believe these
- 16:13things we wrote it like a news story end quote
- 16:16February 1989, Weekly World News published real
- 16:20graphic photos on its front page of the post
- 16:23-autopsy body of executed serial killer Ted Bundy,
- 16:29which is pretty intense. yeah yeah that's uh
- 16:32that is real news though they're not making that
- 16:35up that is crazy that they did that though front
- 16:38page and they're the only ones yeah yeah managing
- 16:43editor eddie klontz defended his decision to
- 16:47run the photos claiming that he hoped that such
- 16:49images would deter other murderers as if they're
- 16:52going through grocery store self checkouts being
- 16:55like you know what well they all did Technically,
- 16:59I think. Maybe? I don't know. They could have
- 17:02just be getting food at like the local 7 - Well,
- 17:05they had magazines too, I think. As if they would
- 17:08see that and be like, you know what? I don't
- 17:10think I'm gonna do it. Yeah. And also, serial
- 17:14killers are not the only people who get autopsied.
- 17:17That's true. Like regular people do as well.
- 17:22That's true. You could say mathematician with
- 17:25the same impact. That's true. That's very true.
- 17:28I guess nobody even thought about that. Angry
- 17:32and surprised officials in Florida vowed to catch
- 17:36the person responsible, that is for the autopsy
- 17:40photos of Ted Bundy on the front page, eventually
- 17:43arresting a low -level employee of the Alichua
- 17:46County Florida Medical Examiner's Office and
- 17:50charging him with taking the photographs and
- 17:52selling them to the Weekly World News. Do you
- 17:54think he was wrong? Well, he did sell them. so
- 17:57kind of like if he just gave them for free do
- 18:01you think it would be less of a i would think
- 18:03ethically there's more of like these are things
- 18:05that should be seen as opposed to like i could
- 18:07make money off of this that that's true i mean
- 18:11he is just living in a capitalism society though
- 18:15yeah Yeah, and a libertarian would say, yeah,
- 18:18I think. Unless he was under contract, which
- 18:21is the weird side of that. Like, I don't know
- 18:24where that falls. Like, was he wrong? I don't
- 18:27know. Is that not a thing you can do? I think
- 18:29ethically as like a mortician, right? That's
- 18:31what he is. I don't think you're supposed to
- 18:34sell pictures of people you're autopsy -ing.
- 18:37Do you think, no? I have no idea about what morticians
- 18:40can and can't do. Do you think they can't do
- 18:43that? No, you know what? Sorry. I do think ethically
- 18:46it's wrong because the only reason he went to
- 18:48sell it is because this person was famous. That
- 18:51is true. You wouldn't just... He wouldn't normally
- 18:53sell these photos to other people. Yeah. No,
- 18:56no, you couldn't. There's no market for anyone
- 18:59that's not Ted Bundy, probably. Well, there might
- 19:02be further. OK, OK, I can get behind that. As
- 19:05other supermarket tabloids switched to celebrity
- 19:08gossip, not sure what they switched from at this
- 19:12point, the Weekly World News remained devoted
- 19:14to its original content, refusing to fact check
- 19:18its way out of a sensational story. Or as Lane
- 19:22Calder, Weekly World News co -founder and inquirer,
- 19:25editor -in -chief from 1973 to 1977, told Mental
- 19:29Floss, quote, We'd say Elvis was still alive
- 19:33and run a picture of what Elvis would have looked
- 19:36like at the time. Oh yeah. Like many times. Totally.
- 19:39We'd get dozens of phone calls if someone calls
- 19:42and says, I saw Elvis. You didn't try to disprove
- 19:46the headline. End quote. I love that. I would
- 19:49love to work in a place like this. This would
- 19:52just be my groove. I feel like I would be totally
- 19:55in my element. We don't fact check. Fact check
- 19:58is beyond us. It doesn't even exist at this point.
- 20:02I will say, sadly, I'm also seeing like the start
- 20:05of the far right that we see today and the conspiracy.
- 20:08side of it. I can, but I don't think that that's
- 20:12something that actually existed at this time.
- 20:15No, it didn't. But like, I'm seeing the anti
- 20:17-vax thing sprouting from this. Do you? Yeah.
- 20:20We don't fact check. We just have people liking
- 20:23and calling us and saying that you're right.
- 20:26I love it. I'm fresh off. like a five -hour listen
- 20:32of Alex Jones. Alex Jones would use people just
- 20:38emailing him to him as saying, like, have you
- 20:42ever looked into this conspiracy theory? And
- 20:44he would use it as a fact. He would just lie
- 20:47and say, yeah, I came up with this. No, he would
- 20:50use it as a source. He would say, my sources
- 20:53tell me. And I just feel like that's what I'm
- 20:56getting from them. But to a lesser extent, it
- 21:00very well could have inspired others. I didn't
- 21:03quite get to that point of that, what it inspired
- 21:07from this, but it's definitely in a world where
- 21:11fact checking didn't exist. Really? It probably
- 21:15did because you're in the media. You kind of
- 21:18got to do a little bit of due diligence there,
- 21:20but not to the extent that we see it today because
- 21:23we see so much AI and so much fake news, I guess.
- 21:27Did we see fake news before? Probably. But we
- 21:30just trusted the media. We didn't have Facebook
- 21:33where people were just saying anything and people
- 21:36were taking it as fact. And it just kind of all
- 21:39the media didn't exist until the late 2000s.
- 21:41Yeah. And I would say this is probably the very
- 21:44beginning of it. I would go on. I don't know.
- 21:48Outside of this, I think of Alex Jones as like
- 21:51one of the first. And this would have been after,
- 21:54or before, sorry. Wait before, because Alex was
- 21:56like 94, 95. Yeah, so it's refreshing. What's
- 22:03the other Bill? It's Bill Moore and Bill something,
- 22:05the one who got like gunned down. Bill Cooper,
- 22:08yeah. He was kind of the first, but like he would
- 22:11be right around the same time and nowhere near
- 22:13as popular as Weekly World News. Oh, no, not
- 22:16even close. So I just kind of find it nostalgic
- 22:19that this is where we grew up. This is kind of
- 22:23and it was the environment. It didn't seem political.
- 22:26They were not. And something like this would
- 22:28be so attacked now. But there was room for it
- 22:32back then. It was just like, uh, whatever. Just
- 22:34don't pay attention to it if you don't believe
- 22:36it. Right. And today it would have been a So
- 22:39it just I don't think you even talk to your friends
- 22:41about it. Like it was just something you did
- 22:43on your own Yeah, it was just it. I think at
- 22:46that point. It's just something that you understood
- 22:48to be Crazy because it had bad boy, right? Yeah,
- 22:54you just understood that it wasn't though at
- 22:57they were taking actual And I never got past
- 23:01the headlines, because I never actually picked
- 23:03it up and looked. So I never actually looked
- 23:05at the stories from other places. No, it was
- 23:07just like, oh, that seems fun. Yeah, exactly.
- 23:10And then you move on. Yeah, it's just a super
- 23:13like, kind of nostalgic thing of the times that
- 23:16something like this that could exist where it
- 23:19couldn't exist like that anymore. So Derek Lang,
- 23:22a stringer for the paper, I don't know what that
- 23:25means, could be a typo, could not be. He said
- 23:28that, quote, Everything in my stories was fake,
- 23:30you know, depending on how you define fake in
- 23:33quotes. There were regular columns that were
- 23:37included in the newspaper. This included Ed Anger,
- 23:41who was an opinion article. There was first Dear
- 23:44Babs and later Dear Doddy, who were outspoken
- 23:48advice columnists. High Dolly was relationship
- 23:52advice. Horse Sense, which was a medical advice.
- 23:56Monkey Business, which was financial and business
- 23:59related advice and information, and Madame Melissa,
- 24:03who was a psychic. The most famous of these was
- 24:06Ed Anger, a character created in 1979 by staffer
- 24:11Raffy Klinger. Anger was perpetually an angry
- 24:15conservative. A typical column began, quote,
- 24:19I'm pig biting mad, end quote. who rallied against
- 24:23illegal immigrants, women, speed limits, and
- 24:27rainforests, among many other perceived ills.
- 24:30Anger, hated foreigners, yoga, whales, only one
- 24:34reason you could hate whales, speed limits, and
- 24:37pineapple on pizza. What a fucking son of a bitch.
- 24:40Wow. He likes vlogging, electrocutions, and beer.
- 24:45This person happened to go on to become a beloved
- 24:48children's musician. Who are you thinking about,
- 24:51like, uh, Mr. Rogers? Rafi. Rafi, no. Okay. No.
- 24:56Different Rafi, got it. I did think, you know,
- 25:00I'm gonna spoil something. I'm gonna read Ed
- 25:03Anger Still Lives On on the weekly world news
- 25:07online. I'm going to read the most recent. I
- 25:10was just going to pick one at random, but I think
- 25:13the most recent has immediately appealed to me.
- 25:17OK, I do think I screwed up because I thought
- 25:19that you mentioned a person named Raffy right
- 25:21before him. You did. OK. He was let me just think
- 25:26he was a character created in 1979 by staffer
- 25:31Raffy Klinger. OK, OK. That's a different. No,
- 25:34you didn't screw up. OK. I don't know if Raffi's
- 25:38name is Raffi Klinger. Could you imagine that
- 25:40would be such a twist? I'm going to make the
- 25:42angriest person to get all the rage out for so
- 25:46I can just do kid things. Yeah, you can exist
- 25:49in two worlds like that. I think there's nothing
- 25:51wrong with that. You totally can. One of the
- 25:55happiest people out there writes horror mangas
- 25:59in Japan. You can be both. Yeah, Junji Ito. Very
- 26:02happy person. One of the happiest people in Japan
- 26:05writes horror mangas. I love that. That's a dynamic
- 26:07human being. Whereas even King used cocaine to
- 26:09do that. Yeah, exactly. I think he's still upset.
- 26:12It's the difference. Yeah, so I'm gonna read
- 26:15this not Rafi column. It is, who is it? Ed Anger's
- 26:20column. His most recent, July 11th, 2025. I'm
- 26:24madder than a bull in a bounce house about this
- 26:27Epstein client list cover -up. This is gonna
- 26:31be good. Yeah, I haven't even read this. No,
- 26:34would a bull in a bounce house be angry? It would
- 26:37definitely be confused. Okay, I've always heard
- 26:40that they're pissed in a china shop, so... No,
- 26:44but I have to assume, one, they're confused.
- 26:47Two, the bouncy castle can't support the weight
- 26:50of a bull. Okay, well then that's why he's mad.
- 26:52It would immediately deflate. That's why he's
- 26:54mad. Is it mad or is it confused and scared?
- 26:57I guess what's the difference? Yeah, it's both.
- 27:00It's definitely both I would be mad if I was
- 27:03bouncing and having fun and then all of a sudden
- 27:05I'm not It never bounce it got in there and it
- 27:09deflated and maybe he knew He should be bouncing
- 27:13balls can't have the concept of that It would
- 27:15get in there not knowing the kids were having
- 27:17a fun time in there and therefore it would have
- 27:18a fun time in there Just got in there lapsed
- 27:21upon it We're turning too much where with the
- 27:25ball That's just sad. I just feel really sad
- 27:29for the bowl. It's not angry. It's very confused
- 27:32and just scared. It's probably scared. But again,
- 27:37what is anger? Anger is a mixture of confusion
- 27:40and fear. Okay, here's what I think it is at
- 27:44this point. I think an anger is projecting his
- 27:47anger. If he is angry, at this point, it just
- 27:51seems like a last name. So people maybe make
- 27:54assumptions about that. Maybe they just read
- 27:57it in the wrong tone because the characters badly
- 28:00bleed. It's true. They might. But let's see.
- 28:04first Ed Anger column I've actually read. Let's
- 28:07get into it. Folks, I'm so steamed I could fry
- 28:10an egg on my forehead. The Jeffrey Epstein client
- 28:14list, that filthy roster of high flying perverts
- 28:19and power hungry creeps still hasn't seen the
- 28:22light of day. And I'm about ready to bust a gasket.
- 28:26This is the kind of thing that makes my blood
- 28:29boil hotter than a Texas sidewalk in July. the
- 28:33FBI sitting on this list like a hen on a raw
- 28:36egg. And I'm here to tell you it's time to crack
- 28:39it open and let the stench out. For those of
- 28:43you who've been living under a rock, bracket,
- 28:45and I ain't judging because rocks are probably
- 28:48cleaner than Washington DC, and bracket. Jeffrey
- 28:52Epstein was a slimy, jet -setting scumbag who
- 28:55ran a sicko sex trafficking ring for the rich
- 28:58and famous. We're talking politicians, CEOs,
- 29:03Hollywood bigwigs, the kind of folks who think
- 29:05laws are just suggestions. The feds raided this
- 29:09operation, grabbed his little black book, and
- 29:12now they're acting like it's the recipe for Aunt
- 29:14Mabel's secret meatloaf. Well, I say hogwash.
- 29:19The American people deserve to know who was pals
- 29:23with this creep and we deserve to know now. The
- 29:27FBI's got this list locked up tighter than Fort
- 29:30Knox and it's driving me up the wall. What are
- 29:33they hiding? Who are they protecting? I'll tell
- 29:35you who. They're buddies in the elite club of
- 29:38champagne sipping caviar slurping fat cats who
- 29:41think they're above the law. These are the same
- 29:43clowns who lecture us about transparency while
- 29:46they're covering up dirt that make a sewer rat
- 29:49blush. If there's nothing to hide, then why is
- 29:52the FBI acting like they're guarding the Holy
- 29:54Grail? Fill the beans, G -man, let's see the
- 29:57names. I can just imagine the excuses. Oh Ed,
- 30:01we can't release the list. It's an ongoing investigation.
- 30:04Bloney! This investigation's been ongoing, longer
- 30:08than a soap opera, and I'm sick of it. Or maybe
- 30:10they'll just say, releasing the list could compromise
- 30:13national security. Double baloney with a side
- 30:16of bunk. The only thing it'll compromise is the
- 30:19reputations of some big shots who thought they
- 30:21could party with Epstein and skate free. Well,
- 30:24I say it's time to name names and shame shames.
- 30:28And don't give me that privacy nonsense either.
- 30:31Privacy is for folks who pay their taxes and
- 30:35mow their lawns, not for creeps who allegedly
- 30:38hung out with a guy like Epstein. If you're on
- 30:40that list, you don't get the hide -behind due
- 30:43process while the rest of us are left wondering
- 30:45which of our so -called leaders was sipping martinis
- 30:48on Pedophile Island. The public's got a right
- 30:52to know if the people running this country or
- 30:54starring in our movies or signing our paychecks
- 30:57were buddies with a monster period. It goes on
- 31:00for a while. I'm actually quite surprised with
- 31:04how that was going, given what I kind of set
- 31:06up for what it was like. It seemed like he was
- 31:09very conservative. Yeah. Conservatives really
- 31:12like, conservatives also really want the list
- 31:15revealed. Some of them do. Yes. Yeah. And yeah,
- 31:18I think that is a misappropriation or a stereotype
- 31:21that somebody who is angry is a Republican. But
- 31:25also he might be a Republican and just like also
- 31:28really want the list. Yeah, no, that's true.
- 31:30We don't know for sure. That's just one he had.
- 31:33I mean, he's been going back for how many years
- 31:35now? A lot. That one caught my eye. I was going
- 31:38to choose from a different one. I mean, who doesn't
- 31:41want to hear about the Epstein list being released?
- 31:44Because let's not forget that that's a thing
- 31:47that's happening right now. We want the list
- 31:49to come out no matter who is on it. And Trump
- 31:52is probably on it. Allegedly? Do I say allegedly
- 31:56after that? I think so. Anyhow, beginning on
- 32:03May 9th, 2005, the Weekly World News went all
- 32:06new along with other tabloid papers such as the
- 32:09National Enquirer, which had become bigger, bolder,
- 32:12better. Okay, because it is the same group. I
- 32:16assume. Yeah, it is. In the new weekly world
- 32:19news, Serena and Sonya Sabak's psychic column
- 32:22was replaced by the horoscopes of Madame Malisa,
- 32:27and Dottie Primrose's Dear Dottie was supplanted
- 32:30by an advice column called Hi Dolly written by
- 32:33a middle -aged southern blonde woman. They did
- 32:35not change it. No. The Weekly World News included
- 32:40a weekly weird picture search by mad cartoonist
- 32:44Sergio Arrejones. Other features included trivia,
- 32:48test yourself, jokes and misadventure aka the
- 32:51gayest American hero who has penetrated the mob,
- 32:56gone to Hollywood and fought Dracula traveling
- 32:59from the depths of the Earth's center to outer
- 33:01space. Though it mainly featured offbeat stories,
- 33:06it also featured legitimate games and quizzes
- 33:08such as crossword puzzles, a segment called Bedside
- 33:11Matter where readers chose which celebrity is
- 33:14best suited for the featured celebrity, and Mystery
- 33:18Eyes which featured photographs of five pairs
- 33:21of eyes which belonged to celebrities and readers
- 33:24had to guess who they were. In 1999, David Pecker
- 33:28bought American Media Inc, which owned the Weekly
- 33:32World News. Within the next two years, many of
- 33:34the Weekly World News longtime writers and editors
- 33:37were sadly gone. In a filing with the United
- 33:40States Securities and Exchange Commission in
- 33:43March 2007, American Media said the sales of
- 33:47Weekly World News in 2006 were only $83 ,000
- 33:51per issue. Huge drop, not in its heyday. anymore.
- 33:55The times they are changing. Weekly World News
- 33:58ceased its print publication in August 2007.
- 34:02It was then published as an insert with the Sun
- 34:05magazine with the new material being printed
- 34:08alongside articles and columns from older issues
- 34:11until the Sun itself ceased publication in 2012.
- 34:15In October 2008, Batboy LLC, a company started
- 34:20by Neil McGinnis, bought Weekly World News. It
- 34:23was relaunched as an online -only publication
- 34:26in 2009. In January 2001, the Weekly World News
- 34:30was made available via an online paid subscription.
- 34:34The online edition was emailed to subscribers
- 34:37bi -weekly. The online edition closely resembled
- 34:41the printed weekly world news in both appearance.
- 34:44It uses the weekly world news logo used from
- 34:461979 to 2001. And subject matter, the first issue
- 34:51headline was werewolf Sue's airline overflight
- 34:54delay. So still staying true to the original
- 34:57stuff. In January 2013, Weekly World News announced
- 35:01that it would go behind a paywall. For those
- 35:04of you that are worried, it is no longer behind
- 35:07a paywall. That is why I had read to you from
- 35:10Ed Anger. Otherwise, we would have had to charge
- 35:13you to listen to this episode, sadly. Lucky for
- 35:16you, it is free. In August 2019, Greg De Alessandro
- 35:20took over as CEO, Editor -in -Chief with David
- 35:24Collins as President slash CFO. Not related to
- 35:27Lou Alessandro, is it? I know. No, it's De Alessandro.
- 35:32OK. Could you imagine if it was so? And then
- 35:36they only printed the UFO stories in the weekly
- 35:38world news. They relaunched the brand and began
- 35:42developing a number of projects with Hollywood
- 35:44producers. And on September 21, 2020, Weekly
- 35:49World News launched a Kickstarter campaign in
- 35:52an effort to expand reporting, graphics, and
- 35:54video production, as well as to get the tabloid
- 35:57back into print. The campaign was successful
- 36:00in reaching its financial goal. On March 21,
- 36:032021, Weekly World News printed its first full
- 36:07-length print publication in 15 years. quote,
- 36:10weekly world news, greatest covers was printed
- 36:12as a limited special edition, 5 ,000 copies,
- 36:16which is nowhere near what it was selling in
- 36:20its heyday. Even when it stopped being printed.
- 36:23Yeah. Is that good for magazines these days?
- 36:26I don't actually know. Like they, they can't
- 36:28be selling anywhere near what they were in the
- 36:30early 2000. That's very true. And I didn't actually
- 36:34look at that. It may be a supply and demand so
- 36:37that they could. more it might yeah it might
- 36:41have been a way to make more money and that's
- 36:44just me uh speculating yeah and uh that's where
- 36:48i'm gonna leave it until our episode for next
- 36:51week do you have any comments it made me very
- 36:54nostalgic this episode i know and like not to
- 36:58like the actual magazine more so just like shopping
- 37:01as like a child i know you know there's only
- 37:04so many things that i remember shopping as a
- 37:06child One, so delicious. And that's not so much
- 37:11shopping, so much as having them in my lunch
- 37:14as a child and really liking them. That and they're
- 37:17so much more open to kids eating the food while
- 37:20they shop than the adults. Yeah, totally. The
- 37:23other thing I specifically remember while shopping
- 37:27was I remember a big thing around the magazines
- 37:31and such when Princess Diana died. I don't know
- 37:35why that sticks in my memory so much, but that
- 37:38was a huge thing. And the other thing is the
- 37:41weekly world news. Like those are my three things
- 37:44that I can name off the top of my head about
- 37:47shopping as a child Oh, I always remember I always
- 37:50remember our mom picking up a people's magazine
- 37:53like every shopping trip Oh every single time
- 37:56never a weekly world news though, and I don't
- 37:59know whether to be impressed by that or disappointed
- 38:02by that no, and People's is the one that still
- 38:07exists. Yeah Yeah, well, in print, at least at
- 38:10the at the counter. We don't know if she subscribes
- 38:13to Weekly World News now. She very well might.
- 38:17I don't have suspicions. But yeah, we don't know
- 38:19for sure. Anyhow, with that, I have been Taylor
- 38:23here with Chelsea. We are Jerry to the Fringe.
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