Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #112:  The latest example of the disaster of Marxism: retailers leaving big cities in drove because of shoplifting losses.  The Wisconsin deal for tax relief and increased school funding is in trouble because  both sides think they can get all they want if they win the November elections.   And Alex Murdaugh's South Carolina murder conviction is overturned because of a clerk's big mouth.

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Mark Belling Podcast #112:  The latest example of the disaster of Marxism: retailers leaving big cities in drove because of shoplifting losses.  The Wisconsin deal for tax relief and increased school funding is in trouble because  both sides think they can get all they want if they win the November elections.   And Alex Murdaugh's South Carolina murder conviction is overturned because of a clerk's big mouth. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: One of the things I've explained is that liberalism doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: It never works. What we now have liberalism replaced with
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  Speaker 2: socialism and Marxism. They work even less as bad as
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  Speaker 2: liberalism is. Socialism and then Marxism are worse because they're
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  Speaker 2: even farther out there than liberalism. I find the following.
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  Speaker 2: If you say something really passionately with deep belief, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter how stupid it is, some people will follow you.
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  Speaker 2: I believe, and I've studied this, you know, for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, and over the course of my career, I've
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  Speaker 2: talked about it forever. I think that human beings as
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  Speaker 2: a species are like sheep. Most people are comfortable in
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  Speaker 2: the sheep pack in the herd, and they are more
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  Speaker 2: comfortable following being led than making decisions for themselves. You
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  Speaker 2: could go on nine million different issues to discuss that
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  Speaker 2: or to make that point, so I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: go through it here other than just accept my premise.
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  Speaker 2: Who does sheep listen to somebody that seems really passionate
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  Speaker 2: and convincing in their argument. What I've tried to do
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  Speaker 2: over the years is not only be passionate, but to
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  Speaker 2: back it up with logic, that my passion has to
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  Speaker 2: be backed by something. It has to be backed by
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  Speaker 2: you listen to right now, somebody on the far far
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  Speaker 2: fringe right, somebody on the far far fringe left, or
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  Speaker 2: somebody else in the middle. Anyone that has a following
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  Speaker 2: is somebody who expresses their opinions with some passion. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the Socialists and Marxists that are out
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  Speaker 2: there right now express their opinions with passion. What they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the ability to do is lay out any
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  Speaker 2: facts to back it up. So what have've decided to
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  Speaker 2: not an option. There's this story in Chicago. Walgreens is
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  Speaker 2: closing a pharmacy so on the South side of Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of a low income, high crime area,
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  Speaker 2: and the Chicago politicians are raising hell about this. They're
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  Speaker 2: alarmed over the lack of pharmacies in many neighborhoods in Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: and indeed that's a hardship for people who go and
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  Speaker 2: pick up their prescriptions in person. These kinds of things
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  Speaker 2: are happening not just with pharmacies but in big cities
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  Speaker 2: all over the United States. In Milwaukee, the issue is
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  Speaker 2: grocery stores. Retailers are closing in population dense areas. Now,
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  Speaker 2: on its face, that doesn't make any sense. Brick and
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  Speaker 2: mortar retailers would obviously be likelyar to be where lots
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  Speaker 2: of people are, where I live in the winter. In Florida,
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  Speaker 2: there are two CBS stores nine blocks apart. It's such
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  Speaker 2: a population dense area they need two nine blocks apart.
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  Speaker 2: There's a Walgreens in between them. But in this very,
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  Speaker 2: very dense neighborhood of Chicago, Walgreens is closing the store.
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  Speaker 2: Limbs of tech Talk is now reporting that that particular
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  Speaker 2: store on the south side of Chicago lost one million
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  Speaker 2: dollars last year. Now you can see what Walgreens wants
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  Speaker 2: to close it. It's a one million dollar or of
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  Speaker 2: a store. Now, obviously they're selling lots of prescriptions and
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  Speaker 2: selling all the other stuff that Walgreen sells. How do
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  Speaker 2: they lose a million dollars? And the answer is they
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  Speaker 2: lost a million dollars because they are over ridden with theft.
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  Speaker 2: This is a problem all over urban America. The shoplifting
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  Speaker 2: problem is off the charts. And it's the reason reteelers
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  Speaker 2: don't always say it. The grocery stores are. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to come out and say it because they'll be
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  Speaker 2: accused of racism. But the problem is they're closing these
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  Speaker 2: stores because people are stealing stuff like crazy. Getting back
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  Speaker 2: to my point, liberalism doesn't work. One of the tenets
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  Speaker 2: of liberalism is we go soft on crime, and they're
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  Speaker 2: specially soft on nonviolent crime, and they can't stand it
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  Speaker 2: when any private entity tries to take the law into
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  Speaker 2: their own hands. Some companies like Walmart have gotten very aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: They'll sometimes have police stations inside their stores and they
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  Speaker 2: have high tech security to try to stop it. Kind
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  Speaker 2: of stupid to try to steal from Walmart, but Walmart
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  Speaker 2: is a huge corporation with the kind of money to
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  Speaker 2: put in people, and the stores are so big that
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  Speaker 2: they can justify having two or three security officers in
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  Speaker 2: these massive stores. But most regular retailers can't do that,
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  Speaker 2: and even if they do, communities frown upon security office
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  Speaker 2: are trying to physically detain someone. In a city like
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  Speaker 2: say Milwaukee, the cops are so overwhelmed with everything else,
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  Speaker 2: what are they going to have cops respond to shoplifting calls.
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  Speaker 2: They're put too busy chasing down the murders and the
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  Speaker 2: reckless driving. So the left creates this problem by not
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  Speaker 2: wanting to do anything about shoplift. They simply stop at
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  Speaker 2: that point. We're an over policed society. They say that
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  Speaker 2: we're over police over police, over police, over policed over policed,
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  Speaker 2: and well, someone steals something like this, it's because they
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  Speaker 2: have a knee and the corporations can afford it. What
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  Speaker 2: they can't do is ever think anything through. Well, this
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  Speaker 2: is a pretty simple one to think through. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't do anything about shoplifting, people are going to shoplift
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  Speaker 2: like crazy. And if they shoplift like crazy, the business
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  Speaker 2: can't make any money and they move out. It's not
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  Speaker 2: hard to understand. So now when you take a city
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  Speaker 2: Chicago is run by a Marxist mayor and the state
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  Speaker 2: of Illinois, which Chicago is part of, is under total
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  Speaker 2: Democrat control. They're facing all of these problems because if
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  Speaker 2: business is moving out, people are moving out. Chicago is
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  Speaker 2: hemorrhaging people, and it's hemorrhaging tax revenue because when people
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  Speaker 2: in businesses move out, they take their taxes with them.
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  Speaker 2: So the city of Chicago is now going to Springfield
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  Speaker 2: State Capital and asking the legislature and governor for the
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  Speaker 2: power to raise three new taxes. Just like in Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 2: cities can't invent a tax just because they want to.
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  Speaker 2: They need to have permission under state law of tax.
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  Speaker 2: When Milwaukee creates a special tax that isn't on the books.
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  Speaker 2: They have to have permission from the state to be
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  Speaker 2: able to do it, or the state has to authorize
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  Speaker 2: the community to issue that kind of a tax. Chicago
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  Speaker 2: is going to the Illinois legislature and governor asking for
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  Speaker 2: the power to enact three new taxes. One would be
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  Speaker 2: a delivery tax, one dollar on every delivery Amazon, Door Dash,
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  Speaker 2: what have you, a dollar on every delivery. Obviously that
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  Speaker 2: dollar is going to be passed on. It doesn't stop there. Payroll.
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  Speaker 2: You would put a tax on all large employers in
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  Speaker 2: the city based on the head count. The more employedloyees
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  Speaker 2: they have, the more they would be taxed. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle tried that, they repealed it within a month. Seattle's
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of the tech companies are based there.
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  Speaker 2: The company just that we're going to stop hiring, right,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to pull out. Seattle back down on that.
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  Speaker 2: Chicago is proposing that a payroll tax. Thing about that.
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  Speaker 2: They want to tax companies and tax them more every
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  Speaker 2: time they hire a new person. Again, you understand the
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  Speaker 2: idiocy of this, but again, Chicago is desperate for money.
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  Speaker 2: They're losing all of this tax revenue and they spend
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  Speaker 2: money on social services like crazy. And the third tax
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  Speaker 2: that they want to put in is on digital ads.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when an AD pops up, you know you're
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  Speaker 2: on online on something, an AD pops up, digital ads,
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of ways that we have digital ads that
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  Speaker 2: are out there. They want to tax every dollar of
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  Speaker 2: AD revenue earned from someone who views a day digital
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  Speaker 2: add So these are three huge new taxes that would
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  Speaker 2: be just in existence in the city of Chicago. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: if they pass all of these, even more people leave.
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  Speaker 2: It's the cycle of doom. You do stupid things that
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  Speaker 2: cost yourselves revenue. The quality of life declines, so therefore
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  Speaker 2: you create even more social services, which costs things even more,
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  Speaker 2: so you raise taxes and then people leave. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: your second ideology being soft on crime. The businesses that
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  Speaker 2: are there are not only being taxed to death at
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  Speaker 2: a higher level, they're losing all sorts of money. If
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  Speaker 2: they're in retailing or if they're in a non retail business,
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  Speaker 2: they don't want to be located in your area simply
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  Speaker 2: because the crime is so high. Again, all of this
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  Speaker 2: is a result of liberalism slash progressivism slash socialism slash Marxism.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't work, but when you tell people they can
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  Speaker 2: get things for free, they want to believe. Now, this
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  Speaker 2: is one of the keys when I was talking earlier
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning here about out you present an idea
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  Speaker 2: with passion, Mam, Donnie is a good talker. On the right.
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt, who's running from air in Los Angeles, he's
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  Speaker 2: a good talker. They both have passion, and when you
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  Speaker 2: have passion, people will listen to you. Spencer Pratt, I
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  Speaker 2: think is effective because he not only has passion, he
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  Speaker 2: backs up his passion with specifics and talks about why
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  Speaker 2: all of the things that the Marxists have done in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles have failed. Mom. Donnie never is able to explain.
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  Speaker 2: He merely says, we have all these rich people, yet
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  Speaker 2: most people in New York are not rich. So therefore
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  Speaker 2: we need to tax him to give you this for free,
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  Speaker 2: and that for free and that for free. On its face,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds good. Who's against free stuff? When the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: have a giveaway, more people go to the game. When
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  Speaker 2: the way they don't have a giveaway, because people want
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  Speaker 2: to get the free stuff. The problem, of course, is
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  Speaker 2: that if you think this all through, the free stuff
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  Speaker 2: has to come from somebody and the somebody can leave
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  Speaker 2: to avoid paying for the free stuff for everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't work. Now this brings us to Wisconsin. We
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  Speaker 2: are a high tax state. We're not the highest tax state.
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  Speaker 2: California's way up there, in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut,
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  Speaker 2: some of the others. Almost every high tax state in
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  Speaker 2: America is a state in which the Democrats dominate everything.
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  Speaker 2: In Wisconsin, we have split government. There is Republican control
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  Speaker 2: of the legislature and the governorship historically has gone back
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  Speaker 2: and forth. It's gone back and forth for fifty years.
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  Speaker 2: At the local level, however, our governments tend to be very,
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  Speaker 2: very liberal. The long term result of this has been
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  Speaker 2: that our taxes are relatively speaking high, and our property
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  Speaker 2: taxes in particular are very high. People have talked about
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  Speaker 2: this forever and ever and ever, and the Republicans have
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  Speaker 2: tried to make it a priority to deal with the
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  Speaker 2: high level of taxation over the last eight years. They
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  Speaker 2: can't do anything about it because Tony Evers is the governor.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, the Democrats, who are becoming socialists and Marxists,
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  Speaker 2: can't stop spending money, and they keep making the case
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  Speaker 2: that the schools in Wisconsin are underfunded. Now, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's ridiculous. I think the schools are grotesquely overfunded.
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  Speaker 2: There are all sorts of private schools in Wisconsin that
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  Speaker 2: do a better job than the public schools but spend
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  Speaker 2: way less money per pupil. I don't believe they're underfunded.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're overfunded. They have way too much staff,
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  Speaker 2: way too much administration. The buildings are way too overbuilt.
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  Speaker 2: They refuse to downsize when their student en roman count
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  Speaker 2: goes down, and they spend all sorts of money on
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  Speaker 2: things that have nothing to do with education. I've made
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  Speaker 2: that case forever, but the lefties don't believe it. Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: public education is getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
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  Speaker 2: In Wisconsin gets worse every year. The test scores keep
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  Speaker 2: going down, and they really started going down after COVID
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  Speaker 2: and have not recovered. So the lefties believe whenever something
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  Speaker 2: that they run isn't working, it's because it doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: enough money. This is the great dilemma for week conservatives.
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  Speaker 2: The lefties do something, we say it's not going to work.
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  Speaker 2: We get proven right it doesn't work, So they say
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  Speaker 2: that the answer to that is to do more of
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  Speaker 2: the thing that we said didn't work. So they want
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  Speaker 2: more money for the schools, and Evers's been trying to
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  Speaker 2: get more money for the schools as long as he's
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  Speaker 2: been the governor. The Republicans control the legislature, and every
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  Speaker 2: year they're it's a school funding a bit, but it's
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  Speaker 2: never enough, never enough, never enough. So now here we are.
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  Speaker 2: Eversu is leaving office, the two Republican legislative leaders are
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  Speaker 2: leaving office. They're all lame ducks. This has put them
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  Speaker 2: in a position to try to cut a deal where
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  Speaker 2: both sides get what they want. They're able to do
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  Speaker 2: that because Wisconsin once again has a surplus. It's fascinating
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  Speaker 2: that we keep running surpluses. I said I'd do it today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it today. One of these programs,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to do a lengthy discussion of what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in the economy because there are so many it's
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  Speaker 2: just mixed signals. But you have a surplus when the
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  Speaker 2: tax money coming into the government is coming in faster
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  Speaker 2: than you thought it would that whatever you're spending, you
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  Speaker 2: can't spend enough to keep up with what's coming in.
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  Speaker 2: That's remarkable that the state government in Wisconsin is having
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  Speaker 2: a hard time spending all the money they're taking. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's almost unbelievable when you consider how much they're spending.
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  Speaker 2: But we have another projected surplus. So the deal that
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  Speaker 2: they've cut is to take that surplus and get both
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  Speaker 2: sides what they want. The Republicans want to lower taxes.
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  Speaker 2: They want to lower property taxes, and they want to
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  Speaker 2: help all people that are struggling in the economy. So
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  Speaker 2: there would be a big chunk of property tax relief
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  Speaker 2: and then there would be rebate checks. Those are the
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  Speaker 2: two things the Republicans get. The rebate checks would be
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  Speaker 2: three hundred dollars a person six hundred dollars a couple,
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  Speaker 2: and the property taxes would be lowered by dumping the
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  Speaker 2: money into the formula. So you'll be getting property tax
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  Speaker 2: relief being handed down to the local communities and rebate
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  Speaker 2: checks being sent to the taxpayers of the state. What
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans want, what Evers and the Democrats want, is
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  Speaker 2: they want to spend way more money for schools. So
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  Speaker 2: we take this big surplus that we have and we
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  Speaker 2: spend most of it on the schools, and what's left
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  Speaker 2: we used to cut taxes. So the Republicans say, look,
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  Speaker 2: we've not been able to cut taxes as long as
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  Speaker 2: Evers has been the governor because Democrats don't want to
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  Speaker 2: cut taxes, and Evers says, I want to spend way, way,
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  Speaker 2: way more money on schools. There's only so much that
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  Speaker 2: we can do with people passing these school referenums. They
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  Speaker 2: need even more, more and more and more and more
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  Speaker 2: and more and more and more and more. But the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans won't get me more, so they cut the deal.
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  Speaker 2: Both sides get the thing that they want. The question though,
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  Speaker 2: is whether the legislature, which has more Republicans than Democrats
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  Speaker 2: now but maybe not after November, will pass the deal.
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  Speaker 2: And there are grave doubts as to whether that will occur.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why both sides, I think not now. Evers and
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  Speaker 2: the legislative leaders, the members of both parties want to
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  Speaker 2: roll the dice. If you're a Democrat in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin, why would you take this deal? You'd say
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  Speaker 2: you would take this deal because you're getting all the
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  Speaker 2: money for the schools. But here's what they're thinking. After
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  Speaker 2: the election in November. The Democrats think this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a huge Democratic year. Maybe it will be.
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  Speaker 2: They think they're going to win the legislature and keep
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  Speaker 2: the governorship. So the saying, we'll just wait until after
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  Speaker 2: November and we'll take all this surplus that we have
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  Speaker 2: and we'll give it all to the schools, that we
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  Speaker 2: won't cut taxes at all. Why give some of it
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  Speaker 2: back in the form of a tax cut. Why not
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  Speaker 2: just wait a few months for Evers to be gone,
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  Speaker 2: the legislature slips over to the Democratic side, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: take it all. They don't want to give this away now,
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  Speaker 2: before they get total control of all of state government.
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  Speaker 2: They want the whole thing. And then there are individual
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  Speaker 2: Republicans who are crapping on the deal because they're saying
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  Speaker 2: it's terrible. We've got a huge surplus because we're over
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  Speaker 2: taxing people, and instead of giving the money back, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna let Tony Evers spend more than half of it
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  Speaker 2: by giving even more to the schools. And those Republicans
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  Speaker 2: are thinking the Democrats in Wisconsin. It might be a
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  Speaker 2: democratic here naturally, but they're imploding here in Wisconsin. They've
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  Speaker 2: got Marxists that are leading the polls for governor. They're
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  Speaker 2: leading candidate right now is Francesca Hang who is a Marxist.
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  Speaker 2: Mendela Barnes is way up there and he can't get
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  Speaker 2: elected to anything. So there we're Republicans thinking we can
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  Speaker 2: win the governorship back, and if we keep the legislature,
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  Speaker 2: it'll just be like the Walker days. We'll do the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing in tax relief. So why ask this now?
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  Speaker 2: Why vote for something half of which we hate. Spend
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  Speaker 2: the surplus by giving even more money to the unaccountable
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  Speaker 2: schools and so on. Then there's this. The Democrats apparently
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  Speaker 2: fear that if they pass this, the Republicans will run
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  Speaker 2: for re election for the legislature by bragging about the
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  Speaker 2: property tax relief and the rebates. The thing about a
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  Speaker 2: rebate is it isn't a long term problem, but in
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  Speaker 2: the short term you get a check. Let's be honest,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: most people don't pay attention to how much they pay
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  Speaker 2: in taxes. When you get a sales tax at a restaurant,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you look at the bill. But I mean if you
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: go to a like a hardware store, they add on
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the tax. How many people even look at that? And
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: then with regard to your income taxes, it's deducted for
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: most people out of their paycheck. At the end of
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the year, they do their taxes. Sometimes they get a refund.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I wonder how many people right now could tell me
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: how much they paid in stall federal income taxes, even
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: we're just done with the taxiar with most people having filed,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I wonder if they could say. I bet they don't.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But when you get a check, whether it's three hundred
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: dollars or five hundred dollars, A wanted I got my check. No,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the government never gives me a check. I got a check.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So the Democrats are afraid the Republicans are gonna say
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: we got you this. So both sides have rank and
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: file that don't want to do this deal because a
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: they think they might get a better deal after the election.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And be in the case of the Democrats, they don't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: want Republicans to take credit for the part of the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: deal that they like. Now, you might say the other
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: way around. Why aren't the Republicans afraid that the Democrats
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: will be able to take credit for spending more money
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: on the schools. There may be some of that, But
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: if they can't make this deal, and I'm not going
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to be here to tell you whether or not it's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a good deal or a bad deal. I think that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it's just awful that we're spending even more money on
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the schools and we're taking this massive surplus. We keep
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: dumping more and more money on underperforming public schools without
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: doing anything to make them better perform. We keep electing
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: radical leftist school board members who screw the curriculum up
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: even more. We overstaff the things like crazy, and we
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: waste all sorts of money by putting up all of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: these new school buildings. That's my position. On the other hand,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: our tax burden is terrible. We're having people leave the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: state because the tax burden is so atrocious. We have
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: a relative we have a medium income tax and obscene
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: property taxes, and people are ducking the state, leaving the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: state going elsewhere because of those and we need to
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: give tax or live to the people that are here.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Whenever you cut a deal on anything. Before I became
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a podcaster, when I was an employee, I had to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: negotiate a contract with the company. I've never liked it,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: but I disliked it. They originally proposed even more, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I think the company never like I can't believe we're
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: giving this dope this much money. Yeah, that's what a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: negotiation is. If you're negotiating with somebody that's nuts. This
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: is Trump's issue with a rad If you're negotiating with
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: somebody that's nuts, that means in order to get a deal,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to give the nuts some of the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: nutty stuff that they want in order for you to
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: get what you want, or they won't agree to the deal.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So we're stuck here in Wisconsin. We've got a Democratic governor.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: We might have another one for four years who might
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: be way worse than the next one. How much can
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: we get. On the other hand, we've got Republican control
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: of both houses the legislature. So many brothers, take the deal,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: take the money, give us the money. They're always going
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to give more money to the schools. Anyway, let's just
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: take it. I don't know whether or not it can pass.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: What I do know is this, it will not pass
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: unless Democrats vote for it. The Republicans have a one
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: vote majority in this Senate. It's slightly larger in the Assembly,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: but there are going to be Republicans in the Senate
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in the Assembly who don't want to support this. That
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: means some Democrats have to join the Republicans. If this
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: is going to be a deal with Evers, it's incumbent
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: upon Evers to get some Democrats to vote for it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: He's a Democrat, and they're looking at Evers. Now, imagine
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you're some Marxist Democrat from the state legislature, you represent
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Madison or Milwaukee, you're one of them. Just imagine that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: what you are. You look at Evers and you're thinking,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: what can he do to me? He's this skinny, shriveling
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: little weenie who doesn't know what he's taught. In the meantime,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you've got all these Marxists that are running for governor.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: That's the future. Evers is a lame duck. He's looked
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: like a lame duck even when he wasn't a lame duck.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So how can he twist any of their arms? They're
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: just gonna say, screw you, Tony. See you later got
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: one story that kind of plays into all of this
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that I want to talk about here, Wahwatosa. They're just
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: some cities that are fun making, that are just a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: lot of fun to make fun of. You know which
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: ones are the ones that are a lot of fun
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to make fun of? The ones that are easy to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: make fun of. I don't have to tax my brain
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: to make fun of Wahwatosa. Like if you said, Mark,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: make fun of New Berlin. I mean I could, trust me,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I could find things. I can make fun of anything,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: but it would be harder. I mean, just come up
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: with a city and ask me how hard is it
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to make fun of it. I could probably rank everyone
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: in an order in the state of Wisconsin. Elm Grove, Yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can make fun of that, but I could.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But you're right, it would be harder than making fun
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of Wahwatosa. But I can make fun of elm Grove.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: By the way, elm Grove is moving lefty itself. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: think I was gonna say this, I think elm Grove
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: went for Kamala. But I take that back. I'm attracting it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I know it's very close, so I retract what I said.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But it's certainly of the communities in walk in Wakashaw County,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: one of the least conservative. But it's not fair to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: say that it's liberal, but it's I could make fun
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of Elmgrove. Just lots of fights to make fun of
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: an Elmgrove, for one thing there's there is. I won't
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: say it's like Cedarburg snobbiness because they don't really have that,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but it's I mean, part of it is just their name. Ever,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: any city named after a tree has a senate has
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: some pretentiousness about it. Now again, I'm down there at Florida.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You should the names of all this other than like Miami,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the names of all this. The community that I live
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in Florida is Sunny Isles Beach. Give me a break.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Can you be more obnoxious than that? It's like all
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: those places in Arizona have the same thing, Paradise Valley,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Sun City. Anyway, Wahwatosa. One of the interesting things about
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Wahwatosa something that they did many many, many years ago,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and I think it made sense. The entire city government
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: is in one block. City Hall, police department, fire department,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and the library are all in the same general complex.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: The headquarters is at least of this. Obviously there's individual stations,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: but the city Hall, the city administration building, and the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: library are all at seventy six the north. You may
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: recalled that when they had the protests at Wahwatosa, when
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the cop heaters or marchings of the streets. They'd always
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: stop at seventy six to north because that's where the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: city hall was. Anyway, Wahwatosa has decided that they need
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to fix up their city hall. Now, I'm gonna be
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: honest with you, I think I've ever been inside it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: If I have, I've forgotten it. And I've never been
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: inside their library again. Maybe I lived in Wahwatosa for
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: two years. When I moved to Milwaukee late eighties, early nineties,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: maybe I went in there. I have no recollection of it,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: so I can't say I've actually been in there. But
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they say it needs all sorts of renovations. It's fallen apart,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: they claim. So the city council has come up with
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: four options. The first option, the cheapest option, would be
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to fix the building up. They say that would cost
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: thirty seven million dollars. I just that's just to do improvements.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, the building isn't that big. That's part
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: of the problem. They always want to have buildings that
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: are you know what I can considers yea, I mean,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying a small building thirty seven million. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the final option, the one that you know they really
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: want to do, which is the most expensive, which would
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: be one hundred and six million, is to tear it
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: down and build a new one. Now, of course that's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: what they want to do. Bureaucrats love nothing more than
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to put up new buildings. Why that's where they work.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: If you worked in a crappy, old, utilitarian governmental building
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: and you had an opportunity to live in to work
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in a Tazma hall, which would you pick. One of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the reasons Northwestern built that beautiful new headquarters was they
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: said that their trump. We're in the business, especially with
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the millennials. We're in employee recruitment phase. Employees want to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: have a nice place to work in. I've been in
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: radio my entire life. There are no nice places. I mean,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the building that we're in here is somewhere between a
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: dump and nice. It's got parts of it that are
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: nice and parts of it that are that are dumped.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying. But I mean, I'm
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in radio. What would I possibly expect one hundred and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: six million? Do you understand why our property taxes are
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: so high? One hundred and six million dollars to tear
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it down a building that's perfectly functional right now, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: then part of it is the library. Now you know
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: my attitude on libraries. I do not understand how in
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six we can justify having any libraries. The
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: whole world is online, much of it for free. What
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: do we need libraries for? So far as I can tell,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the only thing people use libraries for is because they're
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: too cheap to rent videos. So will they read books?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Way back in the olden days before you could buy
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: books silent, not everybody has enough money to afford to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: buy books on Amazon. I wonder what percentage of library
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: uses are actually taking out books as opposed to the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: other thing. And if you're going to take out the book,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: why do you need anything other than an Amazon like
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: thing in which everything's on a shelf. You tell the individual,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You tell the person at the counter what book you want,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: They push a button, it comes over at a conveyor belt.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Why do you have an a an anyway? Nobody agrees
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: with me on that, but it is my point. One
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hundred and six million dollars. Let me tell you a story.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You want to hear a story. We have Dave Michaels
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: in this week. I have a new producer, but he's
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: already gone he's on vacation, so Dave Michaels is filling
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: in which he's done. How long have you been filling
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: How long did you fill in for Paul on my show?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Since twenty nineteen? Have you ever counted how many jobs
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you have here? You'd still be coding? Yeah, harder to find. Well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: put it that we only have five people left to
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: work in the building, and some of them don't do
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: much of anything, so Dave Michaels has to do everything else. Anyway,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: There is this community not too far. They don't live
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: in this community in Florida. It's one city north. It's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: called Golden Beach. It's right. It's it's almost just two
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: sides of a street. It's a little bit more than
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that on the non ocean side, but on the one
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: side of the street is the ocean, and then it
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: goes back for like two blocks on the other side
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of the street. It is one hundred percent residential with
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the exit, with the exception of the city hall and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: police department. There's no commercial in the community at all,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: no stores, no shops, no nothing. It's just residential. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: because the one side of the street is on the ocean,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and none of the properties are zoned multifamily. They're all
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: single family houses, and they're on the ocean, and it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: very hard. The ocean is accessible to the public in Florida,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that's the law, but you still have to be able
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: to get to it. And there's all only two walkways
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: in the entire city that gets you into the ocean.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: So the only people that I'm walking on the ocean
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: there are somebody that started south of there and walk
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: all the way up. So essentially, if you live on
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the ocean there, you live on the ocean. Your backyard
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: is the beach. So what's been happening in this community,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Golden Beach is the properties. The houses that have been
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: there are being one after the other sold to be
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: torn down. The last time I was there, which is
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: only a few weeks ago, I counted on the east
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: side of the street, the ocean side, ten ten houses
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: are in the process of putting up new construction. The
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: lots relatively speaking, I mean I'm not talking of relatively
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: speaking like some of you who live in the Lake
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: country where the lots are huge, but when you consider
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: that this is in an urban area, some of them
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: have over one hundred feet of lakefront footage, and there's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: some that are up to I would say two hundred
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and twenty five to two hundred and fifty feet. That's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: staggeringly large amount of property to be ocean front. So
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they're tearing the houses down and putting up these new
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: mansions and the going right after the a you know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: tear it down, put up this unbelievable, massive, six thousand
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: square foot beautiful mansion. They're selling them when they're done
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: for about one hundred million. And the biggest part of
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the one hundred million is you're on the ocean and
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: your backyard's the ocean. How in the hell got a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: city hall gots that? For one thing? You're not paying
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: anything for their view. The view is North Avenue. I've
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: gotten tired of people griping about taxes in Wisconsin. Although
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I'm one of them that does it, I'm not tired
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: of it if you're somebody who votes against all of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: this stuff. But if you keep voting for lefties, so
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you keep voting for the school referendums, you keep saying
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: you want to do this, stop turning around a bitching
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: about the taxes. Why do you think they're so high?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's because we're spending money on all this. I want
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: to swear here. I haven't done it on the podcast.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the people that are swearing
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: all the time of the podcast, they're turning people off.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, Megan Kelly has managed to turn off like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: eighty six percent of the people that were paying attention
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to her a few months ago. They're all bitching know
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: about the fact that she swears all the time. When
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: she was when they were agreeing with her, they weren't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: complaining about the fact that she swore all the time.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I have one other story that I want to do
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: in this segment before we go to the break this.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not big on all of these. I was gonna
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: say celebrity murder trials, but this isn't a celebrity murder trail.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: They're just some murder cases that become huge deals where
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the cable channels carry them wall to wall or there's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: live coverage on the internet, and they've become huge sensations.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Like back in the day, the OJ case was the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: mother of all of those, and then there was Casey
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Anthony and so on. In recent years, they've been others,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and I've actually gotten into a couple, the Wendy Agelson
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: thing in Florida. I'm into that. I'm all over that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I know all about it. I've watched all those trials
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: wall to wall, but I'm not at all of them.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I would say in the last five to ten years,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the biggest one of these murder trials in terms of
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: capturing public attention is Alex Murdall right, you agree with that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And anyway, Alex Murdau is accused of killing his wife
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and one of his kids. There's a fire in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: whole thing, and he's a really, really rich guy in
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, and this trial got massive attention when it
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: was on television. Now, I will admit I definitely this
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: is not one of those cases I paid a lot
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: of attention to. But you can't be somebody who pays
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: attention to the news and not be aware of some
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: of it. The words that I was kind of surprised
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that this became a big Usually, when there's one of
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: these trials that captures public attention, there's a good looking
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: blode somewhere in the middle of it, And as far
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: as I can tell, there's nobody really good looking in
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: this murder a thing. Right, First of all, I think
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Alex Murdaugh himself, well rich, I think he's uglier than
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: don't you think He's an ugly guy. Very hard for
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: redheaded guys to be good looking. I'm not saying you
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: can't be. It's just harder than it is for other guys.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You know, the George Cambleton looks so odd. I mean, well,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I'm George Hambile. That could do nothing. I mean he's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: an old man now, but he's still alive. Yeah, so,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, look at him right there there. He
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: is just an ugly guy. I don't know why i'd
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: be interested to watch this thing on TV. But anyway,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: he was convicted. Today the South Carolina State Supreme Court
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: overturned the conviction. Now the reason that they did it,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, he appealed the murder conviction on this basis.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the facts of the case.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: As it turns out, the court clerk, Now, this is
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a county in South Carolina that this murder case, as
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: far as I can tell, is by far the biggest
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened there. The national attention, huge deal.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: It's being covered wall the wall on all of the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: major cable networks, YouTube and so on. When the jury
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: was sequestered. You know, when they take the jury away,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the only people that are in contact with the jury
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: are the bailiffs and the court administrators, and any of
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you who know anything about trials know that the jury's
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about the case until it's over,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: when they deliberate, and no one is to discuss the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: case with the jury at all, even if you're not sequestered.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: If you're at a jury for a few days, you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: not supposed to go home and talk to your family
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: about I'm not saying people don't, but you're not supposed to.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: And certainly no outsider is supposed to contact you would
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: try to tell you what to think about the case. Well,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the court clerk, and this came out when a member
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: of the jury rated her out. Court clerk the day
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: before Murda himself was to testify, tells the jury, this
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: is gonna be a big day now in and of itself,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that seems harmless, except they're not supposed to say anything
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to you. And then she went on to say other
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: things like thanks to look for when he's testifying, like
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: how he kilts his head and all these other indicators
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that were how you can tell if somebody's telling this,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the clerk's telling this to the jury. The South Carolina
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court unanimously said that Murdaw's right to a fair
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: trial was denied because of the conduct of the clerk.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: The clerk was caught, she was criminally charged. She's been
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: convicted in the interim. But now Murdaw's conviction is overturned.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: That means there will be a new trial and we
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: have to go through the whole thing again. It'll probably
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: be an even bigger deal. The history by the way
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of new trials, and somebody in the criminal in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you know, follow who's involved in criminal law, can correct
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: me on this. But in terms of the ones that
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I've followed, when there is usually when there's a second trial,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: it's because of a hung jury. This is not a
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: hung jury case. When there's a hung jury, you started
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: over again. My experience is the second time around, the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: prosecution is likelier to get a conviction of the first time.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm not saying I think that he's going to walk.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons for that is is in a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: second trial, the defense you see what the defense strategy is,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and the action that they took.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Also, you may have had the defendant testify in the
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: first trial, and the prosecution now can go into the
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: second one. It's like, you know, the old thing with
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the Patriots under Belichick, they were accused of stealing plays
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: and all of this. It's sort of like, you know
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: what play the defense is going to call the second
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: time around. Anyway, because of a big mouth court clerk.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: As far as I know, this almost happens. The reason
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: we know it almost ever happens is if if it
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: would happen, the same thing that would happen here as
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: happens in the murder thing. Anybody who works in the
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: court system, the bailiffs, for example, let's just take a
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: really high profile case, Daryl Brooks doing your Wauka SHARCONDI
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the Parade massacre. I could still see the court, the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: bailiffs who work that case, in particularly the two guys.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a guy with the blond crew cut
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and then there was the bigger guy with the glasses.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, the way the camera was set up in
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the courtroom is they shot. When they shot toward Brooks,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: they shot over the shoulder, and the bailiffs are right
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: behind them. I mean they're instructed those courtroom people. You
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: say nothing to the jury, and they of course guard
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and protect the jury. They walk out with them into
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the jury room, close the door, and then there's an
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: attendance if the jury needs something, or if they need
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to send a note to the judge or something of
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: that nature. They just know you can't. I mean, not
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: only would this mean you'd be fired, you will be
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: criminally prosecuted. You can't do it. You can't do it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: You can't do it, you can't do it. We also
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: so that if somebody did do it, then a juror
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: would come out and say, hey, this person said this
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: to him. So they can't take the risk of doing
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a very rare thing. That it would happen in such
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: a prominent case like this, I guess is understandable only
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: in the content. It makes you wonder if did this
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: kirk clerk shoot off her mouth and other jury trials
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: down there were probably not, because this has never been
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: one big enough for her to So she's probably thinking
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and everybody down in that community knew that Murdau did it,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: so she's probably she really wants him to be convicted,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: so she's probably saying this to kind of sway the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: jury in this one little direction over here at in
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: the end, in an attempt to in her attempt to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: make sure Murdad gets convicted, she screws the whole thing up.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And he's not a freeman now there may I don't
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: know if they're gonna let him post bail, but you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: innocent and improven guilty. So he goes right back to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: where he was before, where they get to criminally charge
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: him again. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. I'm going to share with
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you somebody's theory that I think is really interesting. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: don't think I agree with the person, but when somebody
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: who's really smart says something and makes a good case,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I'm always open minded enough to consider it. So I'll
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: get to that in a moment. Here's the setup on it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: This whole thing of jurymandering might be backfiring on the Democrats.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: The jurymandering is the draw legislative and congressional districts in
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: a way to favor your side. And this started. There
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: are some Democratic states that have been incredibly jurymandered for many,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: many years. When you control the legislature in your state,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: you get the ability to draw the districts unless you
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: have a separate system in place for somebody else other
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: than the legislature to draw the districts. The Democrats in
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: wisconstin of screamed forever that the districts in Wisconsin were
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: jurymanted to favor the Republicans. When the Democrats got control
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of the state Supreme Court, the districts had to be
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: redrawn in a way to favor the Democrats because the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Republicans and the legislature thought if you turned it over
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, they would really screw them. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: we've now drawn districts that somewhat favor the Democrats in
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin rather than the other way around that it was before.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: This story now isn't dealing with legislative districts, but congressional districts.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: You can certainly draw districts. Let's imagine you're a Democrat
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and you want to make as many Democratic congressional districts
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: in the state as you can. What you do is
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you take the areas that are overwhelmingly Republican and jam
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: them into one area. In other words, try to create
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: one district that's say, eighty six percent Republican. Why would
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you do that because all those Republicans who lived outside
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: of that district are known not in any of the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: other districts. So the Democrats came up with this idea
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: that rie k control of the House of Representatives, we
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: are going to start redrawing some of these districts. The
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: problem here is they again this is where I would
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: swear if I swore on the podcast, they bleep with
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the wrong guy. Usual, the Republicans roll over, and in
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: fact the Indiana Republican legislature did roll over, but Trump
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: does it roll over. Trump's of the opinion that if
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: you try to do this to me, I'm going to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: do it worse to you. So Trump got on all
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: of the Republican states around the United States and said, hey,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I want you to jerrymander your districts. So California jerrymanders
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: their districts to favor the Democrats, but Trump gets the
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Republicans of Texas to jerrymander their districts. As it turns out,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: though the Democrats overplayed their hand. The Virginia Supreme Court
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Accord in Virginia rather has struck down the redrawing of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the districts in Virginia to favor the Democrats. And separately,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the United States Supreme Court has now ruled that it
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: is unconstitutional to draw a district on the basis of race.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: There are any number of districts around the United States
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: in which you try to draw the lines. So the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: district is overwhelmingly African American. And one of the things
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: that this does is it creates a district that therefore
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: is automatically going to be Democratics since the overwhelming majority
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: of African Americans vote for Democrats. The Supreme Court has
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: said you can't use race as a determinant to draw
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: a district. In fact, the Supreme Court essentially says you
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: can't use race to decide anything. So what all of
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: this essentially means is that after they redraw, after all
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the democrafter the Democratic states of the Republican States withdraw
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the districts, the Republicans may gain more seats than the Democrats.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: And as I say, it's because Trump just isn't one
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: of these Republicans who, well, that's not right to jerry
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: mander's find they're jerry mandering. I'm gonna jurymander better. This
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: is almost unique among Republicans. Anyway, this gets me to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: this brings me to this Newt Gingridge, very smart guy,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Speaker of the House back in the nineties. He's a
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: historian by profession, and he's still a political analyst, way
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: up there in years, but he's a smart guy. I'm
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: gonna play about a two minute cut here and it
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: starts with the redesticking backfiring because of the way that
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Trump has fought back against him. But I want any
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and he wanders off into another area in the middle.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: But it's only two minutes. I want you to listen
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to it because it's his conclusion at the end that
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I find really interesting. So again, it starts with this
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: discussion of the backfiring on the juryman to ring. But
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: stick around to the end because that's the part that's
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: the payoff here.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: It is California is involved. Democrats didn't mind when California
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: whites got Republican seats. They loved Virginia wiping out Republican seats.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the institutional tide has turned. And
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: this is why Trump is such an historic figure. He
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: is the first person to really take the establishment head
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: on and to grind at them, and grind at them,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: and grind at them. And the result is they're breaking apart.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: They're breaking apart in the universities, they're breaking apart in
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: terms of the maps. The key question, the court head answer,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: which has been coming now for thirty years, is can
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: you in fact use race as a factor. Well, it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: very clear that the establishment used race in order to
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: create districts that African Americans would win in, and they've
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: used race for admission to Harvard, etc. All of that
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: is gradually received and people are saying, wait a second,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: you know, you've got to compete. Now we have African
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Americans who win in white districts. So it's not I mean,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: we're not in the nineteen forties. We don't have segregation,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: but we also don't have a bias. You know, for example,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: a bias in favor of blacks is inherently a bias
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: in favor of Asians and Latinos.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what the court said when it came down
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to the decision, when it came to these universities as well,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: is that it's not just even a matter of blacks
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: or Hispanics. You can't use race as a coordinating principle
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: for anything exactly.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: And so now that tide is gradually coming this way.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: And it's very ironic that Justice Thomas, who is of
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: course African American, is now the most influential single person
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: in the Court.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Well, he's talked about in his writings for decades now
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: the Court has just finally given him the opportunity to
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: give those legal opinions. We only got about a minute left.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: But I'm curious when it comes to these maps, who
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: ends up winning it?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: In your view?
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I think if Trump can get Gasoline under control,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: the Republicans will have a historic victory this fall of
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: huge proportions, not just because of the maps, but because
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: the Democrats we saw AOC earlier. I mean, Democrats are
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: now crazy, and so this is a race between we
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: woke and crazy Democrats and the Republicans. Even though Republicans
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: may not be perfect, they're not nuts. And so I
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: think you could see this fall both in the House
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: and Senate a truly historic ellection.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: And that wouldn't have Oh that's interesting. Everyone believes this
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: is a democratic year. First of all, history is that
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: off years of a president go to the other party.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's history of that for one hundred years.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: If the Republicans control the White House in the off
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: year congression elections with the resident isn't on the ballot,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: the other party gains. Some of the biggest gains of
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: all time on both sides were in off year elections.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Trump's popularity has declined. Everyone thinks it's going to be
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a big Democratic year. It's just presumed that the Democrats
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: will take control of the House. Some even think the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Senate Gingridge thinks it's going to be a Republican wipeout.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: In other words, the Republican's gating. Now, I would discount
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: that as just saying wishful thinking, except Gingris says, well,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: they like Ingrid and no, he's a smart guy and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: he's basically get on this. First of all, the maps,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: that the maps are now more favorable and house distance
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: across the United States the Republicans than they were before.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: You might pick up some seats on that. But secondly,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: he says that the Democrats have embraced Marxism so much
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: that they're going to lose seats because of it. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: clearly the Democrats are right now full of themselves. You
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: would in the States where you know when they regain
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the governor ship. In Virginia, win Youngkin was term limited
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: out Spanburger won. She ran as something of a moderate.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: She's not, but she ran as a moderate. And the
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Democrats have been trying the strategists. The strategists the Democrats
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: are trying to tell the Democrats, if you want to win,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you've got to run people that don't seem to be crazy.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: They can't seem like Marxist. But the activists they don't
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: want to hear that. They think they're gonna win, so
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: therefore they want to win and get It's the same
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: thing that they've done with the Supreme Court in Wisconsin.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: We know we're gonna win the election, so we're gonna win.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Run a leftist nut. We're gonna run a radical judge.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We're gonna win. Why get somebody who's moderate. Let's get
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: let's get the hole Enchilada. In Wisconsin, for example, the
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: lefties really want, I mean, they want a Marxist governor
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin. That's their dream. So francessa Hang is leading
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: in the polls, she's a Marxist. They could be overplaying
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: their hands. In other words, and Trump's point is and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: he's referring to the AOC thing. AOC did another interview,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I mean a she might be their candidate for president
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. I talked to the beginning of
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: the program that anybody who kind of speaks with passion
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: can get a following, and a lot of lefties like her.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: First of all, she's the only lefty woman out there
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: that's not ugly, and b she's figured out how to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: use social media and get a following. But anytime she
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: actually has to do an interview and explain anything with
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: any depth, she just she is so stupid. She's talking
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: about taxes and billions of dollars and she said that
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: nobody has a billion dollars earned that money that it's
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: never earned. And then she tries to explain why, you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: it takes someone like take Amazon, you know how that
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't earned. They built this empire with these massive sales.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: They said, how is that like not earned? And she
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: can't explain it, And when she starts to talk with
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: she just sounds stupid. And then you have someone like Mamdani,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: who we are going to watch in broad daylight just
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: wreck what's left of New York City. So the argument
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: that Gingrich is making right here is no matter how
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: unhappy some people are with Trump and what's going on
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: with the war, this, that or the other thing, the
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Democrats are nuts, plus the maps are bad, that this
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: is not going to be a Democratic big year. The
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Republicans will actually gain. Now I don't agree with Gingrich.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too much conventional wisdom here. We do see
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the thing party identification, party approval, the Republicans. Both parties
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: have overwhelming disapproval lovers. The Republicans have thirty eight percent
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: approval in this country. The Democrats have thirty five. They're
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: both way underwater. But the Republican disapproval isn't as bad
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: as the Democratic disapproval, for whatever any of that is worth.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, Trump's now in China. This whole negotiation
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: in China is leverage. Why is Trump going now? Trump's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: come going over there about not quite a year and
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: a half into his presidency. Clearly China has been harmed
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: by the Trump tariffs. Trump, I think, believes he has
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: China softened up on the tariffs and now can get
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: a deal on other things that he wants. China's perspective,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: China wants to have these discussions because they need to
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: get Trump to back off on the tariffs, but they
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: also have some leverage of their own. Their leverage. In fact,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: both countries are trying to use the same thing as
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: leverage is a ran I've been telling you from the beginning.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: These two things are tied together. Most of the oil
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: that Iran exports goes to China. China needs Iranian oil,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: so therefore China wants to keep the current regime in place.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: In a rat the Mullas are fine for China because
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the Mullas don't bother China and they send them all
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: their oil. So China is not in any kind of
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any desire at all to help Trump win
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: the war on Iran and get any kind of a
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: regime change there. They don't want to change anything. They
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: want to keep getting all the oil. So China's card
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: is going to be, look, Trump, you want this out
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: or the other thing. You got to leave Iran alone.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: And they're saying this because you know, we need an
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: oil for ren But it works the other way too.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Trump can play the Iran card. Trump can tell China,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: in addition to these tariffs, you're gonna lose most of
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: your oil because if Iran doesn't do what I want,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to continue the war and hit them even harder,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and we're going to have control of the Strait of
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Harmus and your oil is not going to come over there.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: This can be the framework for a deal. I think
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Iran and I don't believe that there's going to be
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: a deal. There may be a deal that they call
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: a deal, but I don't believe Iran is going to
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: compromise in anything. I don't believe that Iran is reasonable.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think China is reasonable. Diabolical and evil, but reasonable.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: China will always do what's in its best interest, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: sometimes in your best interest means making a deal. So
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I think that there are the prospects of a long
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: term relationship here with China that is going to end
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: up better than what we had before Trump came in.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Because Trump started using leverage. Whether you agree with the
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: teariffs or not, they create tremendous leverage to create a
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: reset in the relations between the two content. The old
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: relationship was China walking all over us, and Trump has
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: wanted a reset on that. Well, we have a relationship
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: that is more favorable to the United States. And now
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: this Trump, as you know, sends mixed signals all the time.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I believe it's intentional. I've been arguing this forever. The
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: slogan that I've used, and I'll repeat it again, is
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Trump is his own good cop bad cop. You know
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the old thing with the detective where one cop is
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: like the hard ass and drives you all over and
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: the other one that you've got the defendant so beaten
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: down of the other cop becomes more reasonable than that.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you've softened him up, and now the guy's
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: willing to spill the b and so he talks with
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the good cop, good cop bad cup. You would think
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that most crooks would. I mean, I don't know that.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I don't they all just lawyer up now. Anyway, Yeah,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: it depends. Trump is his own good cop bad cup,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: which is why he sends these mixed signals. He tries
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to be unpredictable. It's worked for him forever. But he
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: did an interview two days ago with Fox News. This
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: is a very brief commentary on the war, and I
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: think in one paragraph, Trump's summarized where we are with
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: the war. This wasn't good cop, bad cop. This is
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: just Trump saying how he sees what's going on right
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: now and the way he leads us. I just think
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: it's right on the money. This is where we are
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: with the rad I'm gonna read the quote. I have
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  Speaker 2: the best plan ever. It's a very simple plan. Iran
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: cannot have a nuclear weapon, and they won't have a
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. How stupid are they? Stupid people They think that, well,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I'll get tired of this, or I'll get bored, or
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I'll have some pressure. Let me pause. Indeed, that's what
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks. They think that Trump is going to be
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: under pressure to end this because he's under pressure here
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: in the United States to end the war because of
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: oil prices, or they think that Trump likes to have
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a quick solution to things. He doesn't like things to
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: drag on Trump. So Trump is saying Iran is like
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: a Trump's gonna back down. Trump's getting pressured to back down.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Trump's tired of this, will wait Trump out. Trump just said,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: that's what Iran. Thanks. I'm gonna go back and read
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: the quote again so that you you know exactly what
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: he's saying. So Trump right now is analyzing Iran, analyzing him.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Trump I have the best plan ever. It's a simple plan.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and they won't have
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. How stupid are they? Stupid people They
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: think that, well, I'll get bored, I'll get tired of this,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: or I'll get bored, or I'll have some pressure and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: then Trump. But there's no pressure. There's no pressure at all.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to have a complete victory. We've already, in theory,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: had a complete victory from a military standpoint, whether he
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: follows through it or not. I think that that's a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: correct analysis of this. I think militarily we've had a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: complete victory. And if we walk away at this point,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: we can say that militarily we had a complete victory.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: There way weaker than we were before the army and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: navy are wiped out. Well, we don't have is, we
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: don't have a gene change, and we don't have all
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: the nuclear material We don't have those two things. But
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Iran is drastically weakened, drastically poor, and drastically in less
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: position to bank roll terror in the Middle East and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: the rest of the world. But we don't have those
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: last two things. We don't have all other nuclear materials,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: and we're only ever going to have that if we
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: get are able to go in and get them, and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: we don't have regime change. I am of the opinion
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: that regime change is not something that we need to seek.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: The Iranian people have to figure out how to do
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  Speaker 2: them through that themselves, via a coup or a revolution
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: and so on. But getting the most of the rest
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: that we want is what this is all about. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: as for the point with regard to the pressure, Trump
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: says he's under no pressure. I think he's under a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure. One of the reason, the biggest reason
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: that oil has gone up is because of this war.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Gasoline prices are very, very high, and that creates political pressure.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: You heard in Gingrich's comment in which he said Republicans
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: could have big gains in the fall, he also said
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: if he gets gasoline under control, and the quickest way
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: to gasoline under control is for the war to am
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: And if the war ends, I think oil will crash.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: If the war continues, oil is going to keep going up.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: So that's the pressure that's out there on Trump. But
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: as analysis of all of this, I think it's pretty accurate.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast there's something going
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: on in sports. Do you know about this whole Katherine
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: leg thing. We have Dave Michaels in here. Leg l
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: e gge pronounced leg. You have no idea. Katherine Legg's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: been a race car driver for a long time. I'd
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: say not very good. The problem is she's competing at
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: high level circuits and if you don't have a good,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: a big team with a you know, big you know,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: pick crews and strategists and a lot of money behind you,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: you're going to struggle, whether it be an IndyCar or NASCAR.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: She's driven an IndyCar and the Indy five hundred for many,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: many years, and she's the back of the packer. She's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: turns laps and cash's checks for her team. Now she's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: trying to drive a NASCAR She's no good at that either.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: So Catherine Legg has now decided that she's going to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: try a week from Sunday to do a double. This
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: has been attempted several times in the past. The biggest
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: race of the IndyCar season is, of course, the Indy
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: five hundred. That race is held right around noon on
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend. Later that day, NASCAR
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: has its longest race of the year, the six hundred
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: mile race in Charlotte. They used to call it the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Coca Cola six hundred. I don't even know if they
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: still call it Coca Cola. It is still the Coca
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Cola six hundred. Several drivers in the past have attempted
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to drive both. Back in the olden days, there were
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: people that drove on both circuits, but now that is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: not common. There are no full time drivers who drive
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: both Indy Car and NASCAR where they drive each for
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: one thing, they'd be conflicts or races are going on
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: at the same time. But way back at the day,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: guys like AJ Foight would so he would drive stock
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: cars on one day and Indy cars on another, and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: so on. In the modern era, Tony Stewart became the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: only person to ever complete both races. Tony Stewart is
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: was a Renaissance automobile racer. He raced in anything. He
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: drive in the little sprint cars on the little dirt tracks.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: He was an open wheel racer, he raced an Indy car,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: and he was a superstar at NASCAR. And he was
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: somebody who did regularly compete on almost all of those
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: circuits at one time or another. So he was in
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: a position to excel at Indian in the physician to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: excel at NASCAR, and he did become the only driver
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: to complete the race both times. Several others have tried.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I said complete in a NASCAR race, usually about ten
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: of the thirty of the thirty five or forty that start,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: there's usually twenty five to thirty that are running at
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: the end. Indy car it's about two thirds are running
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: at the end of the race. You get knocked out,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: engine troubled, crash and so on, and obviously it's a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: lot of driving. It's the eleven hundred miles of the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: most stressful thing that you can imagine. The Indy cars
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: go really really fast. It's like you're driving a rocket
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: on land, and the nascars you're just driving these heavy
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: things in heavy traffic, constantly taxing thing to do so
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Catherine leg wants to do it. The last guy to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: try it is one of the best stock car racers
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: of all time. His name is Kyle Larson. He has
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: experienced in open wheel and he's tried it a couple
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: of times. The last time he tried it got all
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: screwed up because the Indy was rain delayed. He ended
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: up not finishing either race. He crashed out or I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: think had an engine problem in one of the races
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: and crashed out in the other and he didn't finish,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: so he tried it. He did impede in both, but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: he wasn't able to finish. Catherine Legg is not a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: top driver at anything. The only reason for her to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: do this is as a publicity stunt. So the indycard
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: team that she has will get extra sponsorship because she's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: trying to do the double, and of more attention for
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: the NASCAR race. But it's a gimmick and it's a stunt.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: It's one thing for a highly qualified driver who's a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: contender and at least one of the circuits back to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Tony Stewart or back to way back in the day
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: AJ Foyt, I think one or two of the Endretti's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: did it. John Andretti had experience in both circuits and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: so on. For Catherine Legg to do it, I'm telling
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: you this is what the likely she has the potential
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: to actually get this, and I'm not predicting it. I'm
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: just saying it is not implausible to say she may
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: actually pull off finishing last in both races. It is
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: theoretically possible she can finish last in the Indy five hundred,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: and it's also possible that she could finish last in
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: the Coca Cola six hundred, which would be quite the distinction.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Now to the I'm trying to think of the right
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: term here, conundrum. Isn't the term saga would be a term,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: But there's a better one there, dilemma. There's a word
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: in there somewhere that makes up exactly what I'm driving
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: at here, but since I can't come up, but it'll
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: just get on with the story. The Brewer is Joey Orties?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Is he an asset or a liability? What to do
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: about Joey Orties? Joey Ortiz plays virtually every game with
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers, and for the last two years he's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: been their worst hitter. He and we're doing this podcast
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: and Wednesday last night he did something that he hasn't
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: done in ten months. He actually hit a home run,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: but his batting average is still under two hundred. Last
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: year he started terribly slow, picked up a bit. I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: think he ended in the low two hundreds. He just
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't hit much, which is surprising. He hit fairly well
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: in the minor leagues and hit well in the major
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: leagues before he came to Milwaukee. When he came over
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: in the trade, and a lot of Brewer fans are
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: frustrated with the whole Joey Ortiz saying, because Joey just
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't hit. On the other hand, Joey Ortiz is, in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: my opinion, the best shortstop in baseball. In fact, he's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: one of the best shortstops I've ever seen. He's not
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: the best I've ever seen. Ozzie Smith is the best
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: shortstop I've ever seen. Ozzie Smith may, in fact be
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: the best defensive baseball player at any position that I've
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: ever seen. He had the advantage of playing in the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: era in which Saint Louis had astro turf, and they
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: had a terrible AstroTurf was like rocks. The ball would
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: bunce really, really high, and Ozzie Smith was just a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: In fact, his nickname was the Wizard. He was a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: wizard at knowing how to play that type of an infield.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal defender. Joey Orties is in the pantheon of the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: great among the greatest shortstops of all time. He hardly
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: ever commits errors, and he gets to all sorts of
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: balls most people don't get to. And he's so fundamentally
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: solid in the field. He never out of position. He
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: turns the double play with Bryce to rank phenomenally well.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a stretch to say that he's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: worth taking away one hit per game. There are games
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: in which that happens. So the hits that he doesn't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: get you could put on the other side. He's taking
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: away a hit from an opposition player. So the whole
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: dilemma here is does Joey Ortiz help or hurt you?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: He's a spectacular defender, but not much of a hitter.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: The Brewers have not given up on him. He continues
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: to play every day because they just love having tremendous
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: defense at shortstop. And secondly, they don't have it at
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: all an alternative. But we're gonna get to that they
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: don't have an alternative. They've had all sorts of infielders
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: on the team the last few years. They got so
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: frustrated at the end of last season. They had three
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: third basemen last year. They've traded all of them in
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: one trade. They had kind of an overachieving midget playing
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: third base, and Caleb Durban they traded him. They traded
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: his backup Monasteri, and they traded another guy named Sigla.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: They're all nice enough guys and fundamentally solid players, but
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: none of them can get much. They got rid of
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: all of them, and this is going to go down
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: as the best trade in the offseason in baseball. They
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: got Kyle Harrison for it, and another good pitcher as well,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the guy that pitched last night, Doman or Domen Doman
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I think, right, yeah, I mean it was just a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: rip off of a trade. And the Brewers still have
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: a third base, but it can't hit. And part of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: the whole issue with the Joy Ortiz thing, it's not
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: like you've got another infielder over there. They can get
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: better than Joey. What the situation that's going on here
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: is this The Brewers know the shortstop problem is going
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: to be solved itself in time. The Brewers have probably
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the three best infield prospects in all of minor league
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: baseball in their own system. The closest to the major
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: leagues is probably Cooper Pratt. They have already even though
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Cooper Pratt is still in the Miners signed him to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: a long term contract. It's the thing that they did
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: with Jackson Curio right after he came up. They believe
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: that there is zero chance that Cooper Pratt isn't going
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: to be a major star, so we signed to a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: long term deal. Now he gets less than he would
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: have gotten if he had waited seven years for arbitration,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: and he gets the money guaranteed right now. What the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Brewers get is locking him down and not having to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: worry about him going off to another team for ten years.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: You only do that when you think somebody just can't miss.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: He's not ready yet for the major leagues, and there's
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: questions as to how much you will hit, but he
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: is an unbelievable shortstop. In addition to that, the Brewers
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: have the guy now ranked as the number one prospect
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: in all of baseball. In heesus made. He's still a teenager.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: He's in Double A. He's being compared to Jackson Curio
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: and behind him the other infielder is Luis Panya. He's
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: still in Class A up in Appleton where he's hitting
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: like crazy. So the Brewers are backed up and loaded
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: with potential major stars who play shortstop or third base,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: but they're not here yet, so the Brewers don't want
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: to make a trade and give up prospects for somebody
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a holding pattern for just one
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: year when the position is being handled in this kind
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: of muddled way in which Joey Ortiz is handling it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Tremendous defender who just doesn't hit much. If the Brewers
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: get enough hitting from elsewhere in the lineup, and the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Brewers just don't have any power this year, and the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: pitching continues to be as phenomenal as it's been, they
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: don't need to replace Joeyrti's right now. And Joey Ortis
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: continues to be an asset because he's such a fundamentally
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: great player and an incredible defender, will upon occasion get
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: a hit. The other thing, but his hitting is you
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't think this he's since he doesn't get many hits.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: He is a pretty good clutch hitter. He drives, he
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: gets hits in critical situations all the time. He's just
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: a guy that doesn't hit all that much. So I'm
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: still looking for what the word would be for the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: whole joy or teas thing on the whole. Are the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Brewers better off or worse off? With Joy or Teas
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: is your shortstop. It's just such a hard thing. It's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: almost like his negatives and his positives come out to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: about an equal. But the reason why I don't think
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: they feel a sense of urgency about it is the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: same reason they don't feel a sense of urgency about
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: third base, where they also are playing a couple of guys.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: They're playing David Hamilton over there, and they're playing they're
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: playing Renfigo over there, and a couple of other guys, because,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: as they say, they're backed up in the minor leagues,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: and they think either by later this season or certainly
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: next one or maybe two of those minor league players
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: will be here. And in three years, I think they
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: think they combined with Bryce ter Rang, they'll have the
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: most loaded in field of any team in Major League Baseball.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: That's it for this one. Remember we do new podcasts Mondays, Wednesdays,
• 1:13:55
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