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Danny Parkins on LSU's absurd coaching search, Chiefs vs. Bills, Austin Reaves hype with Lakers | 10.31 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: a hater. It is Danny Parkins Friday. Danny Parkins from
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  Speaker 1: FS1' s First Things First. What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: Chilling, Bo. Thanks for having me back, man.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man. Got you on. And this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a really fun moment. for me and Ryan, what's
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  Speaker 1: about to happen. Now we got Chiefs bills, some other
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  Speaker 1: NFL stuff, great moments of white basketball history going on
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  Speaker 1: right now. We'll get to all of those things. But first,
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  Speaker 1: my father is from Louisiana. Ryan is from Louisiana. My
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  Speaker 1: dad is from a little town called Oakdale. Ryan is
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  Speaker 1: from Lafayette. And I say that to say that we
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  Speaker 1: are both people who are very familiar with with Louisiana
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  Speaker 1: and the different ways that Louisiana gets down. Danny is
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  Speaker 1: from Chicago and has done Midwest and really, really cold
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  Speaker 1: New York state living, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 3: This is not very Louisiana at.
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  Speaker 2: All, okay? I got no Southern ties in my family.
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  Speaker 2: The only Louisiana experience I have is basically Bourbon Street
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  Speaker 2: in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and I need you to understand there's Southern, but
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  Speaker 1: there's Louisiana. Louisiana stands on its own. So- This LSU
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  Speaker 1: coaching search.
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  Speaker 3: Was already declared.
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  Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger at Yahoo Sports put something in one of
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  Speaker 1: his pieces where somebody's quoted as saying that this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the most Louisiana thing ever, okay? Now,
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  Speaker 1: where this has gotten extra Louisiana, and when we say that,
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  Speaker 1: we mean like in a Huey Long sort of way,
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  Speaker 1: is that the governor... has decided that he is going
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  Speaker 1: to run this search, right? Like this is clear that
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  Speaker 1: he has decided he's going to run this search. Now,
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  Speaker 1: an important detail for you to understand is that the
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  Speaker 1: athletic director at LSU, Scott Woodward, is the guy who
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  Speaker 1: also was the athletic director at Texas A & M
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  Speaker 1: when they hired Jimbo Fisher and he got the $ 70
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  Speaker 1: million buyout.
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  Speaker 3: And this Brian Kelly buyout, which is a $ 50.
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  Speaker 1: Million buyout, I believe, Though it's worth noting, James Franklin
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  Speaker 1: also has a $ 50 million buyout, and your boy Scott
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  Speaker 1: did not negotiate that one. This is just kind of
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  Speaker 1: what things cost, okay? But he's that guy. Anyway, LSU
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  Speaker 1: has an interim president right now. So that's why the
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  Speaker 1: governor has taken in this power vacuum. And I started
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  Speaker 1: seeing crazy quotes from the governor's press conference yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: People were sending them to me. And I just read them.
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  Speaker 1: Because they were quotes, they were written down, like they
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  Speaker 1: were sent in tweets. And I try to stay off
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  Speaker 1: of that place as much as I can at this point.
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  Speaker 1: So I wasn't clicking the links, right? Then I was
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  Speaker 1: made aware that it was a press conference. And, baby,
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  Speaker 1: if you thought that what we had told you previously
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  Speaker 1: implied Louisiana-ness in this situation, Danny, we're about to let
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  Speaker 1: you know how Louisiana get down. Ryan, can we get
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  Speaker 1: Governor Jeff Landry of Louisiana at his press conference about
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  Speaker 1: this LSU coaching situation?
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  Speaker 4: You know, to foot the bill. So, yeah, absolutely. Who's that?
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  Speaker 1: No. No.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not
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  Speaker 5: selecting the next coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select
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  Speaker 5: it before I let him do it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but the.
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  Speaker 5: Board of Supervisors is going to come up with a
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  Speaker 5: committee and they're going to go find us a coach.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on. One real quick thing on that.
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  Speaker 5: Because here's what y'all reporters need to do.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all need to start looking at who represents all these people.
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  Speaker 4: Like these agents. You know what's interesting?
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  Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, Woodward's agent, Kelly's agent, the Texas
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  Speaker 5: A & M, they're all the same agent. Like, you
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  Speaker 5: realize if I would be, I don't know how many
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  Speaker 5: sports writers we got here today.
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  Speaker 4: Just you. We should have a bunch. Okay? Like, this
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  Speaker 4: is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: Lawyers would be disbarred for the way these agents act
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  Speaker 5: and the way they're able to represent. In fact, they may,
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  Speaker 5: there's no doubt, they may even represent some of the
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  Speaker 5: players now. Like, it's really time for the NCAA to
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  Speaker 5: put on some guardrails in college sports.
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  Speaker 4: Because it is fine. We don't need to guardrails.
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  Speaker 5: If big billionaires want to spend all that kind of money,
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  Speaker 5: no problem. But if I got to go find $ 53
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  Speaker 5: million from Kevin, it's not going to be a pleasant conversation.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, he's not entirely wrong on the Asian thing,
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  Speaker 1: but he's also not entirely right. Like that's a platitude.
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  Speaker 1: We know this, right?
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  Speaker 2: Um, put a pin in that point. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Put a, put a pin at that point though, because
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  Speaker 1: I just need your reaction to simply hearing that man's voice.
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  Speaker 2: It's very Cajun. Uh, that, that, that is, it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to take anything he says seriously.
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  Speaker 1: And they get mad about that, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I just gave them red meat in the comments there. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, This is terrible. But I'm thinking that he
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  Speaker 2: sounds like a character in Adam Sandler's The Waterboy. Yes. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Mr. Coach Kline. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like, I can't take him seriously. Like, that is just,
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  Speaker 2: he's just a stereotypical archetype of everything that I learned
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  Speaker 2: about Louisiana culture, which my first exposure to it was
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  Speaker 2: Adam Sandler when I was like, 12 years old, which
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  Speaker 2: is not good.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing for me and Ryan is, we're like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just kind of how it goes, right? Like, this
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  Speaker 1: is not what any of you think is coming. That's
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  Speaker 1: like the Ed Ogeron situation, right? That was amazing. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Ogeron was a football coach, so more into a
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  Speaker 1: lane that you could go for.
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  Speaker 3: And he is from St. Martinville, Louisiana. This is archetype,
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  Speaker 3: I think, is an appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: Way for you to put this, but What I heard
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  Speaker 1: as he went through all of that, including the platitude
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  Speaker 1: about the agent thing.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, buddy, you know what's interesting to me?
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  Speaker 1: And as I heard him say this, right, which sounded
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  Speaker 1: very much like a moment that all of us can
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  Speaker 1: have at various points where you meet a fan in
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  Speaker 1: the wild and they hit you with a platitude, really
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  Speaker 1: thinking that they dropped the big joke. They're like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got this thing that I've been thinking about.
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  Speaker 1: They shoot two minute three pointers in the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, man, glad you brought that up.
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  Speaker 1: You need to talk about that on your show.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He was that guy. And that's what dawned on me
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  Speaker 1: is going to make this search hilarious. And what generally
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  Speaker 1: makes these searches hilarious when they're not done by an
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  Speaker 1: athletic director. If it's not done by an.
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  Speaker 3: Athletic director, you know who's going to go find your
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  Speaker 3: new coach?
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  Speaker 2: A fan.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a really rich fan. Maybe a very powerful fan.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps one with high levels of education.
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  Speaker 3: But in the end, just a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Right someone who's got a good idea on message boards
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  Speaker 2: yes like someone who has a username somewhere you know
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  Speaker 2: uh i don't know if it's relevant but it feels
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  Speaker 2: like it might be because i did see some sort
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  Speaker 2: of like walk back comment from him that he was
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  Speaker 2: like but i'm not going to be selecting is this
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  Speaker 2: is this gentleman popular like is he broadly popular.
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  Speaker 1: You know what let's look Jeff Landry approval rating.
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  Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: Five days ago, headline, Governor Landry's approval ratings drop across Louisiana,
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  Speaker 1: even in Acadiana, and Acadiana is.
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  Speaker 2: Where he from.
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  Speaker 1: His approval rating has dropped to 39%. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: reason why I think we're seeing this in the way
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  Speaker 1: that we do. Look, talking bad about Brian Kelly and
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  Speaker 1: wanting to fix LSU football is a bipartisan issue, shall
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  Speaker 1: we say. He sent the tweet during the game about
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  Speaker 1: how they needed to roll back the increase in ticket prices.
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  Speaker 1: He has figured out his way back to the top, except, ooh, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this is really going to be it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. Criticizing Brian Kelly, rolling back ticket prices,
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  Speaker 2: that's like a populist agenda thing. He could have taken
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  Speaker 2: that 39% and maybe bumped it up into the low 50s,
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  Speaker 2: but then he went a step too far and was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking over the search. No, you're not. No, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to run. Don't you have other things that
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  Speaker 1: you should be doing? And he's like, what's more important
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  Speaker 1: than this? And the people are like, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: You got a point.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But if they liked him, they'd be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he can't do a worse job than the
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  Speaker 2: last guy who hired Brian Kelly, but they don't like him.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, man, understand this. Louisiana is known for.
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  Speaker 1: Government and people oftentimes having, we'll call it misplaced priorities.
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  Speaker 1: Look at how long it took for them or the
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  Speaker 1: circumstances under which it took for them to change the
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  Speaker 1: legal drinking age. From 18 to 21. And what they
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  Speaker 1: did that at the expense of, which I believe was
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  Speaker 1: federal funds for the highways.
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  Speaker 3: But they decided that.
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  Speaker 1: Some things are more important than your highways being what
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  Speaker 1: they are supposed to be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You tell the governor like, hey, man, it's about to
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  Speaker 1: be a category five barreling down.
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  Speaker 2: We have a coach to find.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like you think that you want to see a category six?
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  Speaker 1: Let us not find a coach. That'll be a category six.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen hurricanes before. We don't like seeing five losses.
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  Speaker 2: Category five losses is the real problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the other part is because that's a state with
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  Speaker 1: only one really big time school. It's like Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: This is what everybody does. There's no split going on here.
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  Speaker 1: This is not being partitioned.
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  Speaker 3: This is what everybody's into. This is what everybody cares about.
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  Speaker 2: When I will say their their marketing is pretty spectacular
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  Speaker 2: like I'm not I love college football but it's not
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  Speaker 2: in my like top three like sports like I got
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  Speaker 2: a wife and kids so I kind of have to
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  Speaker 2: give up a lot of my Saturdays just with them
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  Speaker 2: because of what I do on my Sundays but the
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  Speaker 2: marketing of like i haven't been to a night game
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  Speaker 2: at baton rouge just like feels like a black hole
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  Speaker 2: in my sports fan experience.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go i gotta want to go
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  Speaker 1: i gotta want to go like i've done i've done
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  Speaker 1: a night game at baton rouge but it was at
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  Speaker 1: southern which is also cracking but i'm sure i kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to do the baton rouge thing and while
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  Speaker 1: they sing a garth brooks song that i don't actually
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  Speaker 1: know but i've heard of only because of them which
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  Speaker 1: tells you a lot because i'm from texas um like
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  Speaker 1: the the thing is we got to make sure we
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  Speaker 1: get to like at once a good one but also
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  Speaker 1: one that we know they gonna win like i don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be around them if they're a little they're
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  Speaker 1: a little salty but i bet that tailgate is bananas.
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  Speaker 2: That's really what it is i just want to i
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  Speaker 2: want to experience the game day culture and then the
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  Speaker 2: game can be yeah it can.
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  Speaker 1: Be hey start working on it and in 2026 we'll
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  Speaker 1: figure out and when i say working on it you
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  Speaker 1: understand what i mean you know talk to the boss
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  Speaker 1: See if you can get you a couple days. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that we can go down there and do
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  Speaker 1: our odd couple thing down there in Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan can start working with his boss, too.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do this. I am in. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's the doubleheader. Now, we don't want to go to
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  Speaker 2: a Saints game. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. They might fight me. Like
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  Speaker 1: the Saints game. Saints games I don't need to be,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm going to take you over. I got to
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  Speaker 1: take you over my side of Baton Rouge. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I got all kind of family through there.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it. I'm in, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to show you the other side of Baton Rouge,
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to do that. Now that we have
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  Speaker 1: laughed at the LSU search, we got a big weekend
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Not because it's a lot of big games, but it
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  Speaker 2: is Chiefs builds.
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  Speaker 3: Big ones.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills, regular season against the Chiefs. They've shown that
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  Speaker 1: they put up a puncher's, got a puncher's chance. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: might win. It's the playoffs where they don't seem to
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  Speaker 1: get over the top on this one. They get this
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  Speaker 1: game at home. But what is interesting is we were
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  Speaker 1: early this year looking at Buffalo. They're going to go
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  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl in Kansas City. Are they going
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  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? And now I feel like we've
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  Speaker 1: all got back to our senses. And we're like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: look at Kansas City.
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  Speaker 3: Best team in the AFC. And Buffalo, we're like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: they can't stop the run.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct. And I'm not even totally convinced, even
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  Speaker 2: though the numbers are pretty good, that they can stop
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  Speaker 2: the pass because Drake May lit them up and Lamar
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  Speaker 2: lit them up. They've played a terrible schedule. They have
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  Speaker 2: no impressive wins at this point unless you give them
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  Speaker 2: credit for that week one Baltimore win where they actually
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  Speaker 2: didn't look that good. So yeah, you can run on
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  Speaker 2: them and you can pass on them. And I'm expecting
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs to do both in this spot. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: will say, I do think the bills like blip of
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  Speaker 2: two losses was more of a blip. Like I do
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  Speaker 2: still think the bills offense is excellent. So I expect
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  Speaker 2: this to be a very high scoring game, but this
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  Speaker 2: chiefs thing, man, they're putting up offensive numbers that are
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  Speaker 2: identical to 2018 to 2022. Like not like five games
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  Speaker 2: of that stretch, like five years of that stretch. So, so,
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  Speaker 2: It's I do think that the Chiefs are very much
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  Speaker 2: back to being the Chiefs and the Bills are in
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  Speaker 2: a real bad spot here.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So let's talk about these two losses, though, for
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  Speaker 1: the Bills and whether or not they qualify as a blip.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason we say this is you. I say
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  Speaker 1: this is you are right. They got that one.
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  Speaker 3: Win over the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right.
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  Speaker 1: They give up 40 points. It's easy to forget because
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  Speaker 1: it was so long ago. But otherwise, they've beaten bums.
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  Speaker 1: They beat the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: They beat the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: They beat the Saints and they beat the Panthers. And
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  Speaker 3: the teams that they.
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  Speaker 1: Lost to are the Patriots, who, hold on, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to them.
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  Speaker 2: The other one is the Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever have to explain what I'm saying when
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you beating the Falcons, right? Like, come on.
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  Speaker 1: But them beating the Patriots, the Patriots have also, all
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  Speaker 1: those wins they've got are all against tomato cans.
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  Speaker 3: Every single bit, right?
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  Speaker 1: And so does that mean that the Bills are also
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  Speaker 1: a tomato can as they are fitting in with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of tomato cans that the Patriots themselves have beaten?
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of where we are now. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we're getting enough of a sample in the games where
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  Speaker 1: we can now raise questions about how good your wins
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  Speaker 1: actually are.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't know if you do your
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  Speaker 2: NFL analysis this way, but if you've been good for years, plural,
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  Speaker 2: I do think there is a carryover. I do think Philly, Detroit,
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, I am inclined to give those teams
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  Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt and say the schedule didn't break.
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  Speaker 2: It's really impossible for them to have an impressive resume
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  Speaker 2: right now based on what their schedule is for this team.
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  Speaker 2: But I still think that offensive line, that quarterback, that
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  Speaker 2: running back, by the way, James Cook, he leads the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: leads the NFL in rushing. Like I still think Buffalo is,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to wake up at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: year and they're going to have double digit wins and
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  Speaker 2: be a problem. And let's say they lose to the chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: Then all of us, Miami, Tampa, Houston, Pittsburgh, like we
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  Speaker 2: can poke holes in any of those opponents, Cincinnati, new England, Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Like there aren't that many good teams in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: this year. So if I only can judge you based
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  Speaker 2: on your resume this year and what you've done, who's good?
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City? Philly? Philly? Like it's not it's not a
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  Speaker 2: very long list.
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  Speaker 1: And Kansas City's five and three, you know, like per
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. And I do think it is worth noting.
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  Speaker 1: And I did not say this. Yes, the Bills have
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  Speaker 1: beaten tomato cans. But in fairness to them, they have
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  Speaker 1: beaten the hell.
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  Speaker 2: Out of those tomato cans.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like they always do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: They're beaten by double digits.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: They are that sort of team.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And it is very similar, I would say, to the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Ravens when they roll. They are going to beat Bums,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: and they are going to beat the Bums emphatically. It's
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: those other games they get a little bit dicey, but
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: they're not going to do a whole lot of losing
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: that they're not supposed to do, except when you play
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: against the Falcons.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have– I had this on Breakfast Bowl the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: other day when they came out of the Carolina game.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: That was their 10th win of 28 or more points
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: in the last five years.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: 28 or more in the NFL is an ass kicking.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Like that, that is a, that is a, that is
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: a college football power five V not type of game.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: And so they, they, they can kick your ass if
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you're really bad and not in their class. And yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: your point is valid. Like they, they can't beat the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: chiefs in the playoffs. Josh Allen hasn't been the problem. Like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: in the regular season or the playoffs, like he's got
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: 24 touchdowns against five turnovers in his 10 career games
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: against the chiefs. Like Josh Allen will show up. It's
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: just that that other team has 15 and Andy Reed
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: and everybody else. So, you know, there's really nothing Buffalo
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I think can prove to the masses at large in
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: this game. But let's be honest, man. Like what if
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Kansas city loses? Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, we'll turn so fast.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: They'll be sitting on a five and four.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: They are fortunate in that the Chargers thing hasn't turned
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: out like it looked like it was going too early
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: because there was two sides, two sides of the coin
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: in that game in Brazil in week one.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh, my gosh, what's going on with
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: But hey, look at the Chargers, even though looking back,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: that game was not like. given the uniqueness of the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: circumstances and the margin was not so great that maybe
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it didn't mean as much as any of us wanted
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to believe that it meant at the time, but Buffalo's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: got 10 games left and five of them are tricky.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: They got the chiefs at home, the bucks at home
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: at Houston.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And I think the Houston is one of those where
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: it's going to turn where they probably played better than
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: their record indicated early.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And I think that one starts coming around.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: They got at.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: The Steelers, um, at the patriots and they've got the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: eagles second last week of the year oh yeah that's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: there we go those are the five.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah like so if you were going to say who
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: can you more reasonably see missing the playoffs chiefs or
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: bills you would say it's the bills comfortably correct.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I would say it's the bills and i think it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: in line with your point that's the benefit of the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: doubt factor that the chiefs have heard like we're at
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like buffalo How many years in a row is it
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: now that they've won that division? Is it something like six?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's six.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. Like, I don't think we discussed
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that nearly enough that they are now the way the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: chiefs are running that division. Like we're in the way
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots were running the East, except I think
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the difference is, well, with Buffalo is the same division
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that we've long found to be mediocre. The chiefs thing
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: is we haven't felt that way necessarily about the division
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and they just keep walking through.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that, you know, the AFC West gets like, well,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: they've got, Harbaugh and Sean Payton. And it's just like
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: now Pete Carroll, like it's just, it's an impressive group there.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: We saw the Patriots dominate the East for even longer
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: than the bills have dominated the East and the bills
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: haven't backed it up with doing anything in the playoffs
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: that anybody cares about. I think that I think that's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: really the biggest thing. It's like, oh, OK, well, so
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you dominate a bad division and then you lose in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the divisional round of the playoffs. Like, how impressed am
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I supposed to be by that? And I don't think
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that's entirely fair, but I do think that's why we
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: kind of downgrade their regular season dominance. Like, let me
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: go ahead. Let me tell you this, though, buddy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine how cracking is going to be in
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that stadium because, you know. as Nick would say, it's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl time for the Buffalo Bills.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And he's not wrong. He's not wrong. They get this
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: game at home against the Chiefs.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Because look, man, for them, it ain't just about the teams.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It's also about the Josh Allen thing. They love him
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in a very unique and special way. And they want
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: all the best things for him.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And this is a time. This is another example.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And I know that like, I heard you, I saw
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the clip of you saying like that everybody loves Josh
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Allen and the media roots for him. And I was like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is he talking about me? It's everybody.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I know. I know.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Well, but here's what I will say about it in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: like defense, I guess, of the opinions at large. Cause
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: like Nick and I were going back and forth at
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: this yesterday on TV and he was like rattling off
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: all the people that said Josh Allen was the best
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: quarterback in the world. He's like, people are so quick
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to move on from home. So I'm like, I at
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: least never said that. My thing has always been though.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think as much of a foregone conclusion as it
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: is that Mahomes is the best, it should also be
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: nearly that much of a consensus majority of opinion that
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the second best quarterback in the NFL is Josh Allen.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: That's where I disagree because I think that's really selling
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Lamar short. Now, of course, the issue becomes the drop
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in performance in postseason.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty big one.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty big one, but all I'm saying is,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We never dropped Peyton Manning to number three, or in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: some cases below number one, under very, very, very similar
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: circumstances through this point in his career.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I hear what you're saying, and comparing eras
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: is like a worthwhile cause, but I think that there are,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: like the game has changed, what we value changed, we
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: get smarter, different stats, whatever the case may be. Like,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: since 2020, Mahomes is first in the NFL. In passing yards,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, wins, and playoff wins. Josh Allen is third
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: in passing yards, second in passing touchdowns, second in wins,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and second in playoff wins. And the only guy who
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: passed him in passing yards was Justin Herbert. It was
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: like two weeks ago. So Allen, in terms of the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: quarterbacking things that we care about, the yards, the touchdowns,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the winning, the playoff wins. He's second to the goat.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So I just, I feel like it's like a fairly,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: now the highs of Lamar, the difficulty of defending Lamar,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: multiple MVPs. Lamar's amazing. And with all of this, we
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: are parsing greatness. But if Josh Allen also balls out
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs and Lamar doesn't, I feel like that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a reasonable place to put the tiebreaker.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: While I hear you. And I don't do a lot
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: of stat leaning at this point.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But I think we're ignoring that the dude last year
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: had 41 touchdowns and four interceptions.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And I also think that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: He is the central node of his offense in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: way that Allen is in his, it's not just about
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: what the numbers are. It's that everything that happens here
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: is because of this guy. Now we're at a place
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: where they went and got Lamar, got some dudes around
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: him in a way that Allen no longer does. Right. Like, like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: The Stefan Diggs is not there anymore, for example, though
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they do have James Cook. They put the stuff around Lamar,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but this is about Lamar. The advanced statistical case for
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Lamar is also pretty spectacular. I think it is a debate,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and I think that that's where I think that we go.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: A little too hard because of the postseason stuff with him.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Not to say that having Allen at number two is unreasonable,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's indisputable.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's my thing.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I mean, if I say it's indisputable
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and then you dispute it, that immediately makes me wrong.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: So I guess I'm happy to concede the point. I just–
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I will defer to the guy who– got it done
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs more now. And again, neither of them
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: have gotten done in the playoffs at the ultimate level.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And I do think I over sell the 13 second game.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Josh Allen had 300. Oh, that's, that's, that's
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: the ultimate man. Only, only a Josh Allen can get
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: credit for what, for not winning. Oh, I watched the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: game too.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It was pretty good. I'm not saying it wasn't good, man.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I was there. I mean, I wasn't there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, he never got the ball back. Yeah, that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: how it goes. Finally, for the first time ever, people
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute. Sudden death is wrong because
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Josh ain't get the ball.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't want it changed. I don't need my
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: overtime to be fair, but I do need to be like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: he can't beat Mahomes in the playoffs. I'm like, yeah,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: he can.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe he can, but the bottom line is he
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: did not.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: That's right. The bottom line is that he did not.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: The bottom line is that he did not.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Look, we're big fans of the big galoot over here, right?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're very clear about this.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: We are big fans of the big galoot.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I'll be hoping, man, just hoping, just hoping.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And I want to be clear that I am big
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: fans of Lamar. Like before last year, I would still
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: have made like a burrow over Lamar argument. And now
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like fully off that. Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was, that was people overreacting.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That was overreacting. I will, I will fully concede that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And Lamar stays on the field in a way that
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: burrow does not. And burrow is better in the playoffs,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: but he's not there as often. And so like, I'm,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not, well, Lamar is to me very clearly at three.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and so Lamar is Lamar is spectacular. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: by the way, there's the reason why the Ravens right now,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: even though they are two and five are favored to
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: win the AFC North is their path compared to Pittsburgh's
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: path is so much easier. Just the next like they
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: don't play Pittsburgh until week 14. They very easily could
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: be tied or in first place before they even beat
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: them one time. So Lamar coming back, I think, changes
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: everything for them. And I do still expect the Ravens
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to win that division.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of Pittsburgh, I just read something. Did y'all's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: homeboy get his nipples pierced?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, yesterday.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: They got a homeboy named Pony. And Pony worked on
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the radio. And I forget what he said, that if
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: something happened, he would get his nipples pierced. I got
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to be honest. It wasn't that, like... It was on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the board that this could happen, whatever the thing. What
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: was the thing?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It was Steelers-Bengals two weeks ago.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. On a Thursday night on the road,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I got to say, I just think he wanted to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: get his nipples pierced because that was not nearly hyperbolic
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: enough to justify the risk.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And next thing you know, you look up.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: He out here looking like Janet Jackson.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: That is right. And, you know, he's a showman. He's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: a performer. He's king of Pittsburgh radio. He turned it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: into a– he pivoted nicely– Breast Cancer Awareness Month, they raised,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think, $ 12, 000 last night at a bar. Packed the house,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people showed up, bought tickets, made a donation.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Pat Fryermuth donated some game-worn cleats that they auctioned off,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But yeah, right now, both of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: his nipples are pierced. And I haven't spoken to him
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: yet today, but we were texting last night and he
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: said his nipples were burning. I'm like, yeah, I bet.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You didn't need to tell me that. But he also
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: added in the tweet, without a numbing agent. Like why?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Because the real answer to this, to me very clearly,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: is he a freak. Like he just, he just a freak. Like,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like he needed an excuse to get this freak shit off.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And he, he, he put it, he put it out
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: there and then he went and he went, yeah, yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't do no numbing agent.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Nah, man.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: He wanted to feel that pain.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm not going to out my boy
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: from college too much, but you're on it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You just learned some things about the homie that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: maybe you knew it ain't telling us, but I could
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: tell right now, like he, he, he, he, he, he
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a freaky deaky.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That's, that's, that's, that's, that's what it is. Like I'd
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: never really thought about how this relates to men, but I.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, he a freaky deaky.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: That's the, that's the only explanation.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Andrew, Andrew Filippone. Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, talking about spinning radio events, I have
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to bring this up because I think that this went
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: on during a time that I wasn't really on the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: internet and I was not aware of, but a buddy
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of mine made me aware of. guys this guy danny
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: parkins one time in chicago got so tired these people
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: talk about what about chicago that he helped to fuck
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: like could you like i'm dead serious because this was
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: one of the most impressive things that i had ever
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: seen you did this with the the acho that people like.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Uh yes sam acho yeah wow thank you for bringing
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that up um i think i'm wearing yeah i got
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: my undershirt on right now is one of the shirts
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: we we sold for that event it says keep chicago
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: out of your mouth um I listen, I'm a privileged
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: kid from the north side of Chicago who then moved
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to the more privileged northern suburbs of Chicago. But I
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: read and I know people from the city and all
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: parts of Chicago. And it would really piss me off
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: when politicians would make the very disingenuous when they were
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: talking about gun control. They would be like, well, gun
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: control doesn't work. What about Chicago? They've got strict gun laws,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but they've got all these gun deaths. And I was like,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you you guys don't give a shit about Chicago anymore.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: you know, damn well that it's a eight minute drive
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: across the bridge to Indiana and the gun laws there
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: are so lax. And like 40% of guns that are
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: recovered in violent crime in Chicago come from out of state.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: They know all these numbers and they do not care.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: And they just use Chicago as this argument to, to
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: shit on the city when they don't live there and
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: they don't care about it. And so this is long story.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'll tell as quickly as I can. But when the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: George Floyd murder happened and there was all that, civic unrest.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: There was, there's this group of kids, uh, at this
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: like afterschool academy in Chicago that, uh, had this liquor
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: store that was across the street from their afterschool program
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: where a bunch of bad stuff was happening, drug deals,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: things like that. And it got, it got looted, um,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and got torn up or whatever. And Sam Acho and
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: some other, uh, Jason Hayward and other people put money
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: together to buy the liquor store, tear it down, pave
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: over it. And the kids started a food mart program
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: because they were in a food desert in the Austin
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: neighborhood on the west side of Chicago. And they partnered
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: with a grocery store and they were able to get
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: tomatoes and avocados and whatever, you know, produce. for cost
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to sell to the neighborhood. So the kids had an
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: entrepreneurial program. They were able to provide healthy food in
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a place where there wasn't a grocery store within walking distance,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the problem with a food
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: mart in an open air area on some pavement in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Chicago is it gets cold. And so I was really
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: moved by this story and they were having to shut
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: down the food mart around holiday season in Chicago. And
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: so we did this radiothon. I did this 24 hour radiothon.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I called it the, what about Chicago radiothon? Like turning
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it on its head. Like you talking about Chicago? What
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: about Chicago? And broadcast for 24 hours, brought on a
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: lot of those athletes who funded the grocery store, brought
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: on the kids, brought on people who talked about the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: benefits of, you know, closing food deserts. And we raised
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: $ 670, 000 and built a 1700 square foot, uh, refrigeration, security,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: grocery store that still exists in Austin to this day
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that is fully staffed by kids.
• 30:57
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• 30:59
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  Speaker 3: All right, we are back with Danny Parkins.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I want to switch to a little NBA because I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: do think what's going on with the Lakers right now
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: is really, really interesting, right? So start the year, Luka
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: puts up 40 with LeBron sitting there saying nothing.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Been there, been there. No, no, nothing's wrong. No, I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: just want to watch the game.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: The problem is you asking me if something's wrong.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You know, so we've seen that. Then Luka put up
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: another 40 in game two and he gets hurt. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: then Austin Reeves comes out and puts up a 50,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: 11 and nine and then puts up another 40 the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: next night. This is, hey man, I don't know what
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: this means, but there was a time when Austin Reeves
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: would do this and this is like the AR-15. Hey man,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: he'd be the most famous man in America right now
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: for putting up this run. Like maybe he needed to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: do this when he was a little sorrier and then
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: it could be Linsanity.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and football season. We are peak college football, NFL,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: the unbelievable World Series. No one's paying attention to early
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: season NBA unless it's Victor Wembanyama.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Who? I mean, ridiculous. But yeah, I mean, Austin Reeves
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: right now is averaging a cool 34 points, five and
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a half boards, 10 assists. 1.8 steals.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: That'll play.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: That'll play for the headband wearing Austin Reeves. And in
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: 38 minutes a night, like second best player on the team.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Oh. Just saying.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready to do that. I understand you.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: There's certainly a plausible statistical argument for this fact.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Now, let me ask this question because this.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Is what I think is interesting about it, which is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: when the Linsanity run happened, a lot of people said, well, hey,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: if you let me come out here and run high
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: pick and roll every time down the floor, it would
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: look similar too. There was a guy named Matt Maloney
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: who played for the Rockets who during the playoffs one
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: year did the same thing to Gary Payton.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Gary Payton was furious. Cause he's like, it's just high
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: screen to roll every time.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Like you get out here and do, I mean, cause
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Matt Maloney, by the way, was like if Austin Reeves
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: went to prep school.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Like he went to UPenn, if I'm not mistaken.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, nice.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: And he's out here giving it to Gary Payne, right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: It was a similar sort of thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Is Austin Reeves a guy where if you create a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: circumstance that allows him to be your best player, he
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: could be the guy who does this. You don't necessarily
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: win anything. but he could put up big numbers under
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: these circumstances. But does that mean he's actually a guy
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that could be the second or third best player on
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a really good team? Because like the way it's looking,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I think we all agree. Luke is a top five
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to seven player in the league.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: If Austin Reeves is a credible number two, Right? Because, look,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much LeBron is actually going to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: play this year. Not that he doesn't want to, but
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: a man his age, I don't think you can just
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: write down 65 games.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: That's not, you know, he got my back hurt right now.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: All right? That's right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: That's a thing.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: That's a thing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what Austin Reeves is. I guess
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we've seen what Austin Reeves is if he's the two
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: or three. And it wasn't anything that made us believe
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that he could be the guy that scores 50 when
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he's got the chance.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Right. So like, I don't know. There's a, there's a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: few things here. I think that the NBA is the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: only sport that real realistically has enough talent where I
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: would be totally comfortable with expansion. Like there are, there's
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: so many talented basketball players that are on the bench
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that I'm not like to your point, I'm not saying
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that it would be if they got their moment in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the sun, that they would be the best player on
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: a championship team, but that they could average 27 a game.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and look like an NBA player. We see those types
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of stories all the time where guys come in and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: make an outsized impact. And you're like, who the hell
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: is that guy? And it's like, yeah, he just got
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the minutes. Like someone got to get buckets on bad teams.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: It's an NBA truism. But I also believe that to
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: really win in the NBA of your top three guys,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: two of them have to be two way players. Yeah.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Like you can't have like the, the bulls team, A
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, like Chicago guy, love the Bulls,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: like DeMar DeRozan, Zach Levine, Nikola Vucevic, where there are
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: three highest paid players. There are three, quote unquote, best players.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: All of them were traffic cones. Right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then they had Caruso and they
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: had Lonzo Ball. And like, yeah, but then Lonzo got hurt, whatever.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: But like you, why Giannis is so special is because
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: he's a two way impact player. Right.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: The Knicks are in this bind.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Brunson and Cat are their best players, but they
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: are both liabilities on the defensive end of the court.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Your best players need to you need to also have
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: an impact from them defensively or else it's too hard
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to construct your team based on the money. So I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: don't think Luca, Austin Reeves and LeBron as your big three,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: quote unquote, at this stage of what LeBron can do
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: athletically with availability, athleticism and the oh, my back hurts.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a thing that can win anything.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, I see what I don't know and I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: need to watch them more closely. I need to find
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: out if Austin Reeves really isn't a good defensive player or,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you know, y'all out here, crabs in a barrel, don't
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: want to give no props to y'all's countrymen and acknowledge
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the possibility that he might be out here playing some defense.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you this right now, Austin Reeves,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and then we'll give you some very important advice, okay?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: You keep balling like this and things have changed a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: little bit. but I still think there's a lot of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: money out there for you just as being the one
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that's not like the other.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Like you can really, you're going to be talking to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: all the schools, like all the kids going to be out,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like it's, it's the world is.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: The games out there, games out there waiting.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: It's all there for Austin Reeves, but this is a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: very important thing that he and his marketing people need
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to understand. They're going to stop loving you, or at
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: least they're not going to have you in the same category.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: if you mess around and start getting your hair cut
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: with the rest of the team.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe you need to go get your hair.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Cut where Rui get his hair cut, because he does
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: not seem to get his hair cut with the rest
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: of the team, but you need to keep that floppy
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: shit going.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Like, you think about this.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: They don't give Tyler Hero no bonus white boy points
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: at basketball, and I think it is entirely tied to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: white people believe in the quality of your whiteness based
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: on how cool your haircut is. And if you mess
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: up and get a cool haircut, It's all going to
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: go away. Like even Luca, Luca's haircut is like moderately cool.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: He ain't really going there. Like Tyler Hero looked like
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: he might fly his barber around.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So should he go all the way with the Kirk
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Cousins sport clip sponsorship?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying, there's more money in that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: That playwright, that archetype, right? You could do that. It
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: would help him if he was from the Midwest, because Arkansas,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: people talk bad about Arkansas. But if he was from
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Indiana or Iowa or Kansas or one of those places
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and was just out here flopping it, it'd be it'd
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: be good times for him.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: How do you feel if he went like the Justin
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Herbert route and like got himself a very famous Madison
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: beer type like chatting, chatting someone up courtside at a
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Lakers game?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Could see that's going to be the key for him
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: is like what he parlays this into.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Because like I say, the world right now is his oyster.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: There are guys in the NBA that you would know of,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but aren't necessarily top 50, 75 guys. And I know
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the people that they's able to get hooked up with.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about black ones. They is able to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: get into some places that I'm telling you, Austin Reeves
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: might be able to put you just show up with
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the right car at the mall. And you might have
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a chance at making that happen. But right now the Lakers,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the Lakers ain't just had a regular degular white dude
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: really out here killing it since Jerry West.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, damn.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Like, they was happy about Kurt Rambis.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you said before we started recording of, like, it's
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the type of guy who 8-year-old me would own his jersey.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's right. I've been thinking about that for the last
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: 39 minutes, and it's so true. Like, it's just, like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: so on the nose. Like, when I saw Jon Paxson
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: as a kid, I was like, I can play in
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the NBA?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like this. You would not just have the jersey.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You would have the jersey because your parents would buy
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: it for you. Like, that's... You can be anything you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: want to be, son.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Like, Austin Reeves should play for the Patriots. Like, it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that kind of situation. But he actually, he's good. Like,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's an important thing to know. Like, Alex
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Caruso became an interesting case because people couldn't figure out
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: what to do with, hey, he's an NBA player. Austin
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Reeves appears to be a better than average NBA, like, maybe,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you know, 70th percentile NBA player.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I mean....
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's putting up 50 points.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I feel like we may
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: need to go a little higher than the 70th percentile.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Look, man, I got to be careful. I can't get
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: too wrapped up here, but that's a fair point.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think that 30% of players in the NBA
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: can drop 50. That's a good question.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Right? Okay, so I don't think 30% of the NBA
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: could drop 50 and then drop 40 the next night.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Right. That's, I guess that is more accurately what I'm saying. Like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I think that that is, that is a real amount
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: of production.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That is just really impressive. I'm not saying he's Donovan Mitchell,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying he's that level of score,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: but I think, I don't think he's in the 70th
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: percentile of players. And yeah, like Caruso is an interesting
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: one too. Like Caruso is excellent at defense and then
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: he can like do a couple other things. Like But
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Alex Caruso is not going to go out there and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: go like 30-10-10.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: You're correct.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: You know, so the white specialist is one thing. Like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the white American all-around hooper. Right. It's a rare breed.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: We got a white boy scoring putting up 50, and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: we got a white boy playing on the all-defense team.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Hey, man.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: And the number one pick. That's right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: That's right. And the number one pick.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Not just the number one pick, but like the number
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: one pick and everybody sees it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Look, man, it's been a lot of times that y'all
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: could have just quit.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot of opportunities that y'all had to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: just turn around. The way you've been getting shit on
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: by all these people and people saying that y'all ain't
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: But these cats kept on going. These cats, they kept
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: on pushing through. You know what I'm saying? In spite
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: of all the bad influences that was around them.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It's a story of perseverance. It is. Really.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Hey, man.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Look, man.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: You got like we always talk.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: A guy called my radio show many years ago said
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to be as short as a constant fight for credibility.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that is the case. And that
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: is true.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You know, neither of us got to deal with that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So the rest of y'all, you know, we this is
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: what we heard about y'all. But at the same time,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: it'd be as short as a fight for credibility. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: can't imagine what it is to be a white basketball player.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, wait. Made a fairly popular movie about it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: They did.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: White man can't jump. Got the hustle on. You put
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a cat in the oven, don't make it a biscuit. Yes.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: This is.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It is the wildest thing because white people just gave
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: up on it. Like, black people at every turn, you
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: tell us we can't do it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: It'll be a few.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to use that word right now,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: but it'll be a few dissenters that'll be quietly like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: y'all know we can't do that. But at least in
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: front of people, we're going to be like, hey, we
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: can do anything the white man can do. White people
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: don't even try that with a few different things. And
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: then when you get one.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Get a little bit too excited.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like right now, it's the nice,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: wonderful in-between stage.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, we're not... You mentioned Linsanity in passing. I...
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That is not what is happening with Austin Reeves.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I'm only saying it's insanity in the sense that you
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: can put up, if you give a guy low expectations
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and say the world is yours, that there's a set
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of numbers that you could put up that doesn't necessarily
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: reflect where you stand in the real concept of team basketball.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is totally fair. And I do think that
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to get a fairly long runway here. for
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Austin Reeves because of the LeBron injury and there'll be
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: plenty on national TV and playing off of Luca is
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a good place to play. Like I, I think, I
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: think Austin Reeves is in a real nice position to
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: make an all-star team.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: It's on the board.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And let me tell you this, man, if him and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Luca get out there balling together, they're going to be
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a movie about starring them about that. They go, the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: new lethal weapon is just going to be them or
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: like Starsky and Hutch.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Well, that's going to be an interesting basketball question in
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the post-LeBron world of the Lakers. Like, can that be
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: your big two?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: That will completely change the game.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Like that, that, that'll make me and my people be like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: we lose the country, bro.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a, there's going to be a reckoning. Like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you don't wait. The Lakers don't need a seven foot
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: center anymore. They need Luca and a guy named Austin
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: from Arkansas. Yes.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: The silver Lake Lakers are in the house.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Right. Before we get out of here, you enjoy engaging
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in the gambling a little bit more than I do.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Your top line thoughts of the last week.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, damn, man. Well, Chauncey's in trouble. He's in big trouble.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: If it was just the poker side of it, I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: wonder if there would be a way to totally prove
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: that he knew about it and or if he was
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: just in the pocket of the mob and got in
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: too deep. But it's the vulnerabilities that are there are obvious.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I do think as the gambler, it is important for
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: me to make the point that the reason why Jonte
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Porter's unders was exposed so quickly or Terry Rozier's unders
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: was exposed so quickly was because it was legalized. Like
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the regulation is what exposed it. You're not betting five figures,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: much less six figures on the seventh or eighth guy
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: on a team's player prop market on a given night.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Like we like to gamble, but we don't like to
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: gamble that much. So like that, that is a, that
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: is a stupid crime that those guys committed. Like it
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: was just, it was, it was a crime of stupidity
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: because they were obviously going to get caught when they
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: did that. Um, People say, you know, there's a cost
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that comes with these leagues taking the money. And of
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: course that is true, but I'm not sure that people,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and I know that you do like have a full
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: grasp of just how much money it is. It it's,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: there was a point in time. If you listen to
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: sports radio, the only thing you heard was car dealership commercials.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: And then there was a point in time where it
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: was like beer distributors and every radio station in every
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: market in the country, was doing one or two remote
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: broadcasts a week, and the liquor reps were just paying
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: five figures in the big markets for you to just
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: show up with your radio show at bars because they
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: were just spending money in that way, hand over fist.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: That is now the gambling companies. So, like, of course
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the leagues are going to take the money. And there's
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a cost that comes with it. But they are absolutely
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: willing to pay the cost because... of the massive amounts
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of money that it is. And I know you said
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: top line thoughts and I've given you like, but like
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the other part is, is that the leagues and the
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: gambling companies, their interests on catching this stuff is a
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: hundred percent aligned. Like the league doesn't want the integrity
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of their games in question. And the gambling sites don't
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: want to be took for a bunch of money. on
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: some on some funny bets so like I think there
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: are some solves for some of it like don't make
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: player props a two-way market and by that I mean
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you can't bet the under like you've got a if
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you want to if you want to bet Austin Reeves
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: points you can't say under 48 and a half you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you've got it's got it's got to just be a
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: straight over like I think that helps some of it
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: but this story could have been a lot worse um
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And it probably will be at some point. And that's
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: just the reality. And you can say that that was avoidable,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: but Pete Rose was a big story. The Black Sox
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: were a big story. You know what I mean? Gambling
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: is something that's happened for forever. Prohibition doesn't work. Legalization, taxation,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: regulation is going to catch most of this stuff, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: there will be more controversies that come of it. There's
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: no question. Yeah, I think they're going to have to
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: ask themselves the question that a.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Hard ban on gambling from the participants in the league,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: because I think to me, the real vulnerability we've talked
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: about this, so I don't have to go too deep,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: is the idea that Chauncey Billings could wind up in
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: this place is the question that you need to get
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of and figure out how many more.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, Damon Jones, too.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: But like how many? I mean, I guess Terry Rozier. Right.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Like they all have the hallmarks of I owe people
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of money.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Gambling is an addiction. But if you even if you said, though, Bo,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: you cannot bet you cannot set foot in a casino.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: You cannot bet sports, even the sports that you don't play. Man,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: you don't think Chauncey Billups can find an offshore bookie
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: or an underground card game?
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: You're totally right.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Well, what you would have to do to make it
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: work is you'd have to make an example out of
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a couple of people. and catch somebody and toss them
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: out the league just for going to a casino or
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: something made. That's what you would have to do, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're willing to engage in that part.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: They're also lucky as of right now. Chauncey Billups is
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: a pretty big name, but on the player front, it
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a name that matters. You mess around and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: get one of those. Now, that's when they are in trouble,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: but I do think that as a media, we are
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: downplaying this a little bit because it's a little bad
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: for business to be as honest as we should.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: No, listen, I think that there's definitely some truth in that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Basketball is susceptible to this, but so is tennis.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, but tennis has historically had match fixing.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Match fixing. Yeah, but I guess my point, though, is, man,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: if I was a golfer, you can bet on if
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have over or under 68.5 on my
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: next round. and if I told my boy to bet
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the over, but I felt like I can make the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: cut and still shoot a 69 or a 70, but
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I can make that extra money on the side. Like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I think you can do it in any sport and
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: toothpaste might be out of the tube on this one.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: And I, and I know that's fatalistic on some, on
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: some level, but like, I just think these things are
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: going to pop up. You're going to have to, I agree,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: be very, very harsh in your punishment. I said this,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think with Colin, Do you think, and it's, I mean,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the guy might go to prison, so it's a different,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: it's not high on his list of priorities. You think
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: they're going to throw Chauncey Billups out of the Hall
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: of Fame? I don't think they should.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I guess they could, but I just, I don't, I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: don't believe in, in Eraser in that way.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Neither do I. You know what I mean?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't, I think that would be inappropriate, but
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: it depends on if somebody wants to grandstand, right?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm just, you were talking about like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: they have to like really make examples of these people, right?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Like if they really want to say, like just, be
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: as harsh as you possibly can on all of the
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: punishments across the board to like really try to be
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: maximum deterrent. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: know what you're going to do because prohibition, like I said,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work. It is an addiction. I agree with you.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of this stuff reads as like these
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: guys with all that money still needed money. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I need, I need it now. Need it by Friday.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Need it by Friday.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: And organized crime. Still in the league. Still in the league.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody's so surprised that organized crime is.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Still in the league.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you think they did?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Fold it up? Still in the league.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: That concrete don't sell itself. You know what I'm saying?
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: There are runs of businesses that are theirs.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the... I'll paraphrase from the Sopranos, businesses that are recession-proof. Yes.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Some aspects of Hollywood and our thing.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Man, there is a 15-year-old story about the ice cream
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: truck business in New York City.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: And basically, there's Mr.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Softy that everybody knows and there's this other company I
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: can't remember the name of. But anything that involves just
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: staking out real estate is very susceptible to criminals because-
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: The willingness to bust somebody's head in it. Basically, this
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: company was running Mr. Softee off the block at every turn.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Softee was hitting their people like, yo, why you why
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you leave it?
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: And they're like, you go stand out there.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Right. And it was very clear that like, oh, a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: syndicate of some sort is running the ice cream game.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of games that they why would
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: they give them up? Why would they stop?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that every place that is
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: like this has that element to it, but cash businesses,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: you ever go to a restaurant and they're like, cash only? Yes.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: You're like, cash only? Yes. In 2025? All right, you're
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: not reporting everything on the books.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, cash only, cash only. Cash in the bag, B,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: cash in the bag.
• 54:30
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• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Anytime, Bo. Thanks, man. All right, man.
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