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- 0:00On Monday, in a 63 decision, the United States Supreme Court
- 0:03vacated a ruling in the United States District Court of
- 0:07Northern Alabama which required the state to draw congressional
- 0:11maps establishing 2 majority minority congressional
- 0:15districts. Quote.
- 0:17The motions to expedite are GRANTED.
- 0:19The petition for a writ of certiori before the judgment in
- 0:24#25243 is granted. The judgment of the United
- 0:27States District Court for Northern District of Alabama is
- 0:30then vacated, and the case is remanded to the United States
- 0:34Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit with instructions to
- 0:38remand to the District Court for further consideration in light
- 0:41of the Louisiana versus Calais decision and so on and so forth.
- 0:46Judges, judges, or excuse me, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote a
- 0:51dissent and was joined by Justices Elena Kagan and
- 0:54Contenji Brown Jackson, which of course, is not that surprising.
- 0:58This is, you know, another sort of, you know, shoe to drop, if
- 1:03you will, from the decision that happened just a week ago.
- 1:06I guess at this point, we can, we can what, what day is it?
- 1:09Where are we? We're in the middle of May.
- 1:11Did you know that? May 12th, May 12th, So it's been
- 1:16about a week ish. But since the decision I just
- 1:19mentioned there a moment ago, Louisiana versus Calais, it's,
- 1:24you know, in the wake of that now a bunch of the southern
- 1:26states are looking to deal with their maps.
- 1:30And the Supreme Court just gave the go ahead to Alabama to do
- 1:33that. Louisiana already gotten the
- 1:34green, green light to go do that.
- 1:36It will not be just them. And there's a piece in the New
- 1:38York Times about where we stand with overall redistricting in
- 1:43the country. And I don't have to read you
- 1:45much of the article other than the headline, which is that the
- 1:48Republicans are still drawing House maps while the Democrats
- 1:52are stuck. Why is that?
- 1:54Ultimately, it's because the political possibility of
- 1:59redrawing maps has basically been done in the Democratic
- 2:02states for the most part. For the most part, where it can
- 2:06be done, it kind of has been done.
- 2:08And the Republican states, especially in the wake of that
- 2:11Supreme Court decision, have at least a little bit of an
- 2:14additional opportunity to do whatever they're doing and to
- 2:17redraw their maps. So the redistricting battle
- 2:20continues. But it is very much, as I've
- 2:22been saying for now two weeks, at the disadvantage of the
- 2:24Democratic Party because they just don't have as many tools in
- 2:28the toolbox, and they never did. I just, you know, I don't mean
- 2:31to repeat myself or anything, but I always thought it was a
- 2:34bizarre fight to pick. I mean, if you want you want to
- 2:38talk about say like the moral standing of it.
- 2:41I mean, you can certainly, I suppose make a defense of it
- 2:45because Texas started and you think it was unfair that they
- 2:48were doing that. And I would actually agree they
- 2:51should not. I don't, I don't like, I think
- 2:52there should be a constitutional amendment that says no, no, mid,
- 2:56no, mid decade redistricting period.
- 2:59Unless there is some sort of an extraordinary circumstance,
- 3:02which I can't even think of what I would grant for one.
- 3:04But whatever, if I suppose you can put that little little plug
- 3:07in there just in case. But ultimately I would like it
- 3:10if nobody did this ever. Because here's the thing.
- 3:13What's the point of doing any of this ever?
- 3:15Like why are we do it every 10 years?
- 3:16Why not every five? Why not every 20?
- 3:18Why not every 13? What's the point of doing it
- 3:21every 10? The point of doing it every 10
- 3:24is that we do a census every 10. So as we figure out who lives
- 3:27where, we change things up. We give the state legislatures
- 3:30an opportunity to draw the the new maps accordingly because
- 3:34people shift where they live over the years.
- 3:37The second district in Maine, for instance, has had to stretch
- 3:39and contort itself a little bit differently because population
- 3:42growth is happening in southern Maine, It's not happening in
- 3:44northern Maine. And therefore that line changes.
- 3:47So you got to do that, right? So you got to do it at some
- 3:49interval since the census already does that every 10
- 3:52years. Great time, great interval.
- 3:54Well done. Bravo.
- 3:56So that certainly makes sense. But it should not be subjected
- 3:59to what we're seeing now, which is just partisan nonsense, just
- 4:05tribal ridiculousness. And you can say if you're the
- 4:09Democratic Party that Texas started it.
- 4:11That's the, I hear that a lot. I got a lot of textures saying
- 4:13that yesterday. It's well, I mean, this is all
- 4:14because of Texas. Texas.
- 4:16Texas is small and I, I would have to remind you a couple
- 4:19things. The first thing that I would
- 4:21remind you of is that no, Texas did not start it.
- 4:24They may have started this round of it.
- 4:27That's true. And then you could say Trump
- 4:29started because he's basically talked to the the people in
- 4:32Texas and said, please do this. And then they did do it and they
- 4:36wanted to do it anyway. So it's not like it was much of
- 4:37A it wasn't hard to convince them at all, right.
- 4:42My point here is only that this is long standing, 200 plus year
- 4:49American tradition. It's just getting stupider.
- 4:53It's just getting more unfortunate.
- 4:55You know, the the every election is an opportunity to try to rig
- 5:00the rules and change the game in your favor.
- 5:04Is is not we're we're in Hatfield's and Mccoy's territory
- 5:08here, right? Like you can't even find the
- 5:10original sin. You could say it was Texas, but
- 5:12then I can go back to the redistricting that was done in
- 5:15New York in the cycle before it. I mean, they did.
- 5:19This is what Texas did is exactly what New York did.
- 5:22It's like, I want to win more, so I'm going to redraw the map
- 5:25accordingly. You know, in New York, just as
- 5:27an example, there was a really weird phenomenon for a very long
- 5:30time. The Republicans, even despite
- 5:32the fact that it was a blue state and that it was, you know,
- 5:35kind of lost to them in a lot of ways.
- 5:37They actually into the mid, I think almost the 20 tens or 12
- 5:40or 14 somewhere around there. They actually still control the
- 5:43state Senate. It was this weird, unbroken line
- 5:47of control. The Republicans just had the
- 5:48state Senate in New York, and that was the thing that
- 5:50prevented for a very, very long time, really unfortunate and
- 5:55stupid gerrymandering in New York congressional districts.
- 5:58They still weren't great, but there was some sort of a
- 6:00backstop there that said, no, you can't do that.
- 6:03But then when it went away, they were like, all right, we get to
- 6:05do whatever we want to now, so let's redraw them and give
- 6:08ourselves as much partisan advantage as possible.
- 6:10And I remember the last time they redrew it.
- 6:12I mean, I don't know if it was like 2-3, four seats that they
- 6:15eliminated there. So you want to talk about Texas,
- 6:17Let's talk about New York. Let's talk about New York.
- 6:19Let's talk about the Republican state that did it before that.
- 6:21Let's talk about the Democratic state that did it before that.
- 6:23Where do you start? Where do you start?
- 6:30So given the fact that I don't think that if you want to play
- 6:32the moral authority card and say, well, they ain't standing
- 6:34at first, I don't think you can. And I don't think, you know,
- 6:38it's certainly with how you behaved.
- 6:40If you think what they've done is bad, when you do it more in
- 6:42reverse, you completely remove any moral standing you had.
- 6:46So, you know, don't give me that line, OK?
- 6:50But even if you wanted to play that card, you still have to
- 6:54just do math and you still have to look at the map and you have
- 6:56to say to yourself, well, is this a smart tactical move on
- 6:59our part, politically speaking? Should we do this?
- 7:05I realize you have this impulse to do it, to get back at them
- 7:08and to fight back and whatever. But is it smart?
- 7:13And it was never smart. It was never smart.
- 7:15It was never smart for the Democrats to do it.
- 7:17It was smart for the Republicans to do it.
- 7:19Yes, because they have more to gain.
- 7:21They have more tools in the toolbox.
- 7:24As I said a moment ago, they have more to work with.
- 7:27So it was, it was basically a good fight to pick for one side
- 7:31and a bad fight to pick for the other.
- 7:33And yet the side that it was bad for was the one that really
- 7:37picked it. I mean, this is really if you
- 7:40want to take, you know, sort of like take a a look at this whole
- 7:43story and say whose fault is it? I actually would say it's Gavin
- 7:49Newsom's fault. Again, you can definitely say
- 7:52Texas for starting the process, yes.
- 7:56So you can definitely point the finger at them a little bit.
- 7:59But the decision to like like overtly inject redistricting as
- 8:07a matter of standing with or opposing the president and
- 8:12making that a central part of the resistance and and
- 8:18encouraging everyone else in the rest of the country to do so as
- 8:20well, because it's the way we quote UN quote fight back in the
- 8:24resistance. It was he was the one that
- 8:26really started that. It was it was California's push.
- 8:30Virginia didn't do that until California already had and a
- 8:33couple other states started to follow suit.
- 8:35I think it was it was a very unfortunate decision to try to
- 8:38politicize redistricting to that effect.
- 8:41What would have been much wiser for them?
- 8:43And you know, if you there's some parallel universe out there
- 8:46that this happened in, it's a much better universe for the
- 8:49Democrats, right? They saw what Texas did.
- 8:52They said that sucks. They called it out.
- 8:56I mean, you want moral authority, right?
- 8:58Point at it, say shame on you bad dog, right?
- 9:04Don't do that. That's what you would say to
- 9:08them. And then make political hay out
- 9:10of it. You know, use it as a campaign
- 9:12tool. You know, you use it as yet
- 9:14another example of the dastardly Republicans doing something evil
- 9:16or whatever you want to do. But you would be losing like 3
- 9:19or 4 seats. But you don't love, You don't
- 9:22love that you don't love it. You don't love it, but you're
- 9:27probably going to lose more than 3 or 4.
- 9:29Now, when Alabama's done, when Louisiana's done, when everybody
- 9:32else is that Florida's done, when they're all done, I've seen
- 9:36some estimates say that, you know, this is maybe upwards of
- 9:3912 to 20 by it by the time it's all finished in terms of a net
- 9:45advantage for the Republicans. Now, maybe that's we'll see
- 9:48that's to all finish and we'll see how it all shapes up.
- 9:51But it's very obviously going to be worse than just the four the
- 9:57Texas would have represented. So it was a foolish fight to
- 10:00pick that will leave them at a basic disadvantage, which may
- 10:04actually jeopardize their ability to win back the House.
- 10:06Possibly. Hakeem Jeffries is out there now
- 10:08saying, I guarantee it. He's doing the Joe Namath.
- 10:12He's like, we'll win. I guarantee he's doing that
- 10:15thing. And maybe they will because they
- 10:17still can. I mean, you know, Republicans in
- 10:202010 took something like 54 seats that did belong to the
- 10:24Democrats. You know, when Pelosi became
- 10:27speaker both times, those were rather large waves of, I think
- 10:3330 or 40. I have to go back and see what
- 10:35the numbers were. But, you know, when there's a
- 10:36big enough wave that happens, you know, it'll overwhelm all
- 10:39this. You know, the Republicans might
- 10:42be doing better than they otherwise would have, but, you
- 10:44know, they still would lose. But if it's not one of those,
- 10:47wait. See, the second midterm is very
- 10:49frequently not good for the for the party in power, but it's
- 10:53usually not as bad as the first midterm.
- 10:57It's not a locked solid rule, but it's pretty common where you
- 11:01see a big loss in the first midterm and then in the second
- 11:04midterm you see a, yeah, it's a loss, but it wasn't that bad,
- 11:07you know, 10 seats, 15 seats, five seats, you know, that kind
- 11:12of thing. So if that's the kind of
- 11:14election it is, then this redistricting battle actually
- 11:19will almost certainly impair all the ability for the Democrats to
- 11:21win, win back Congress, which would just send them into orbit
- 11:24if that if that ended up happening.
- 11:26So that's that's my take on where we're at right now with
- 11:29it.