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100th EPISODE! 100 Episodes of BUDDA · The Grounded Show

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There we go. Hey, yo, we're back again. The ground is
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show the Boy. Let's Sanchez here with Quincy's Jamal and Joe fer Old Jr.
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Knees Paul for episode what a Honda's Go fire Man. It's a nice
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little milestone. Man. It's crazy because we actually have more than one hundred
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episodes, so we got a couple of two partners. But this is the
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official Han Dawn Yes answer applause here, Yeah, facts, man, And
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the dope thing is, you know, before we got on, we just
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were talking about like how some of the online performance has been like with TikTok
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and just you know, the different types of videos we've been putting on and
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people just been rocking with it, been doing real well. We're building like
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a little nice community on TikTok with you know people that's rocking with the clips
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that were dropping. So we're gonna keep building that, keep building this.
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And then like I said, man one hundred, that's super dope, bro.
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We were We're all at very different places literally when we started this,
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you know what I mean, Like Joe was in Vegas, you know what
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I mean. I think Quincy had just moved to Atlanta. Yeah, this
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room was empty. It wasn't even I didn't even paint it yet. You
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could still hear the echoes from the floor because there was nothing in here but
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my computer. Yeah, that's true. I forgot about that. And even
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with Joe, you know, he had like the makeshift spots a couple of
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times when he was like traveling or in the middle of for between here and
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I definitely facts. Man. It's crazy just how much things have changed,
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how the show has changed, you know, the type of stuff we're doing
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with it from how it started. And it's funny, man, because like
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a lot of people now, the podcast is like the new being a rapper,
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you know what I mean, everybody got a podcast. And I feel
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like we had a plan when we started executing this, and we've just kind
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of stuck to that formula and that plan open rocking with it and checking us
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out because you know, it's not really a gimmick what we're doing, you
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know what I mean. And when you can just line it up with what
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you on and what you're about, that's always going to be a win,
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you know what I'm saying. It comes down to, you know, there's
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a lot of content creators that you know, they have to have a strategic
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plan and type of content they want to put out in order to be in
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that algorithm that shows up in your feeds and your for you pages. And
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while we try to adhere to that, at the same time, we try
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to stick to the basis of what this we envision this podcast to be.
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Facts definitely, Man, well what do you think, Quincy, just as
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far as like the growth and how the show has evolved and stuff, and
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just kind of seeing where we was at when we started where we're at now
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kind of how do how does it hit you video? It's dope because it
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feels like now it's just literally as natural. It's like a part of our
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you know, we don't even have to think about planning, like when we're
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going to set things up, you know what I mean. It's really a
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part of our schedule. And it's not it's not something new anymore, you
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know what I'm saying. It's like we don't even I mean, we used
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to try to write down what we're going to talk about and super schedule it
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out, and like now we just jump on and just jump right into it,
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you know what I mean. It's like we get our topics, our
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outline and we already know where we're going out, we're doing it and it's
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just locked in. And man, that leads me to talk about something that
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I didn't think about talking about. But it's just it hit me when you
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said that now, Like for me, shout out to Freddy, shout out
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to my brother Franco. Me and Quincy talked about it too. It's just
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something that's really hit me lately, is just like understanding what you're bringing to
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the table and the amount of work that you've put in just in general with
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like different things in life and really leading with your best foot forward with those
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things. Like and let me explain basically what I'm saying is like all of
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us have different skills. All of us have different things that we're good at
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that we you know, Joe, you got your DJing, you know what
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I'm saying. You a taste maker, that's your vibe. Quincy, you
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know what I'm saying. He got his cooking. He got a lot of
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other things, you know, professionally going on as well. He got the
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music. You know. Me, I got the shop, the salon,
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the music production, you know what I mean, the camera work. There's
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like so many different angles that we can hit things from pause. But the
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dope thing about it to me is we got a track record behind it,
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all of us, Like everything that I mentioned for all of us and them
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the homie Freddy and including my brother Franco, we all got work behind those
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things and a track record and a quote unquote resume that people know we do
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that for real, you know, like they know that that we're locked in
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as far as like the things that we're tapped into. And I say that
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to say, this is the time, especially with hit An episode one hundred,
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especially just the way things are going and talking about the growth that we've
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had. It's like there's so many dope things that we could all bring to
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the table that could also like just elevate everything we're doing from every angle.
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You know what I'm saying. It's like the podcast is one thing, but
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the podcast isn't limited to just when we're recording and now this day, you
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know what I'm saying, Like, the podcast is like the community. The
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podcast is all those things that I'm talking about, all those different skills,
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all the things that everybody got going on. It's like, all right,
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how can we, you know, just everybody stay locked in in their path
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so that when we come together for stuff, it's that much more impactful because
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we all on it, you know what I'm saying. And there's so many
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things that all of us can bring to the table that we necessarily have like
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kind of like let slide to the side. Like for me specifically, it's
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like the photo and video, you know what I'm saying. I went so
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into artists mode and that thing in my head of like you can't be an
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artist and a videographer, you know what I mean, Like they got to
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see you like you a star or whatever. And it's like we were talking
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about with the podcast, it's like, nah, bro, we're doing things
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the way we know it works, not trying to do it the way everybody
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else is doing it just because you know that's the blueprint or that's the cool
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way to do it or whatever. You know, We're doing it in a
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real way. So just picking up on that is getting back on all that
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stuff that we can bring to the table to make things great, to really
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just lead with that. So it just hits every aspect of life, you
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know what I mean. Feel that we definitely was chopping that up earlier,
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and I mean I think that's a that's a really good I would say,
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revelation to really kind of come to because at the end of the day,
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like you said, we all kind of have our own talents, you know
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what I mean. And like even me, I think I mentioned to you
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earlier. Man, I was always good, well not always, but a
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few years ago I got really good with the stock stuff. You know.
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Yeah, you worked on and you did the reading, you did, you
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were really locked in, I remember every day. And then you know,
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I learned about all the corruption and all of the you know, the the
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ugly side of the stock market, which really detoret me from you know,
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being in the stock market. And I had a homie come to me and
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was like, bro, like you know how to maneuver it, you know
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what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it's trash, but you know how
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to work around it to make money. So why aren't you doing that?
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And it was just something so simple, you know what I'm saying that It's
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like, why did I take two years of time where I could have been
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making some bread, you know, And just because of I mean I would
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just call it pride, you know what I mean, Like, just because
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of my pride was mad at the fact that it was corrupt. When everything
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in society is corrupted, you know what I mean. So, you know,
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and then with that said, you know, for the last month,
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I've been back in the stock market, and it's crazy because in one month's
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time, I've made enough money to really completely shift my next few months of
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how I planned on handling things, you know, facts, And that's that's
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the thing, man Like, there's so many there's so many things in front
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of us, and we all fall into those comfortable patterns, and then you
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kind of like you realize that you're leaning back too much, and then you
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start sitting up being like, all right, man, like what am I
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doing right now? Like let us get back locked in, you know what
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I'm saying. It's you know, for me, I've kind of been so
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locked in to the the new business and just getting that off the ground and
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really focusing on it instead of saying, bro, I still got all these
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other things, these avenues that I could open up to make the money come
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from there, and I'm just focused on the things that are that are not
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moving as fast as I like to it, and I'm trying to kind of
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like nudge them along. When I just know, I just got to give
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it that time but still be all my other stuff at the same time.
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You know what I'm saying. That sucks, man, especially when when you're
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dealing with like, like life changing decisions things like that. I always go
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back to the quote like comparisons is a thief of joy. You know,
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it makes it hard to enjoy the things you got going on because you're comparing
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yourself to like what other people are doing. But that that's a good thing,
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And that's like, you know, comparing how different we all are by
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the same we all are. It's good to find you can have as many
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friends as you want, but you got to go to the friends that are
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gonna influence and kind of motivate a certain aspect of you. So when it
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comes to anything like content creation, creativity, podcasts like y'all are pretty much
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my main group. I go to this. People I've been with friends with
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for over twenty plus years who just don't do this, you know, who
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know nothing about this, And no matter how close we are, these dudes
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and my brothers, I don't go to them, and I haven't. I've
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had a podcast for two years. We probably talked about it for a total
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of six minutes in the two years. But it's good to focus your interests
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and have certain people you can go to to motivate and influence those interests.
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It's just like, oh, just because my close friends aren't fucking with it,
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I can't fuck with it. No. I have a group of people
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here who I'm cool with and I understand and they fuck with it like I
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fuck with and that kind of motivates me and influence me to keep doing the
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thing the way I look at it too, and that that is great you
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said that because it kind of brought me back to my train of thought with
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that is like I always I don't want everyonet to be the guy, the
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old guy that Tom has passed them by, like just as far as like
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for example, like with the AI, you know what I mean, Like
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my initial instincts is like, bro, what is this? I'm not messing
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with it? But that's what That's what dudes my age was saying when the
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Internet came around, when it was my age that I am. Now you
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know what I'm saying, Oh, I'm not going to get a computer.
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Oh that's that's kids stuff, or that's the you know, I'm not going
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to mess with that business has done old school whatever, and then look at
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thirty years later, it's a mainstay and they still don't know how to send
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an email. You know what I'm saying. I don't want to be that
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guy. So it's like just being tapped in what's going on, and even
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just thinking about the fact that, like we come from that era where it's
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like what you're doing in the behind the scenes stuff, it was always like
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nobody cares. They just want to see the final product, you know what
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I mean. That's where we came from. That thing has shifted now,
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bro, Now they want to see the progress. You know what I'm saying.
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People want to just rock with you, and then they support what you
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do if they rock with you. You know what I'm saying. It's a
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way different era. You know, back in the day, they was like
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putting stars in front of people or putting the people that would be the quote
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unquote influencers in front of you, like, hey, it is the person
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that you want to be like, and that's it. But now again with
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the Internet and all that stuff, everybody he could just tap into exactly what
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they want to be on, you know what I'm saying, And going back
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to that thing where like being a podcaster nowadays is like the new being a
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rapper. Everybody got a podcast, Yeah, everybody got a podcast. But
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if you're not talking about nothing, nobody's listening. And if you're talking about
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something, people are gonna tap in. They're gonna they're gonna have to weave
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through a lot of junk to find it, but once they find it,
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they're gonna lock in. Thanks. But yeah, man, something we talked
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about last week which kind of led into expanding on that thought was I don't
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know if anybody's seen it, and we'll probably do like a reaction video to
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that after this, but if anybody has seen the clip of Tank, I
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believe he was on Drink Champs for the clip, but he was basically just
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talking about how he can do a song like Please Don't Go and sing it
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and kind of it be the same style, almost the same song as Aam
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Smith Stay with Me, you know what I mean, the same vibe,
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same type of song. Everything. Sam Smith's song is gonna be a top
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forty number one hit. Tank's song is gonna be maybe a number one,
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but in the contemporary R and B category, and there's no difference. The
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only difference is it's a black man singing it. And what Tank was talking
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about is what I'm gonna lead into Quincy, so he can give the details
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on that because he has a little backstory to it as well. Yeah,
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So basically, you know, before I get into it, you know,
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I kind of want to just touch on. So my fiance and I we've
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been doing couples counseling now for a little over two years. It took us
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about three counselors to find the right person for us. But once we found
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that person, we've been going up, you know what I'm saying. We've
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been going up since then. And so one of the books that our counselor
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recommended for us to read is Love and Respect by Emerson Egrits. And I'm
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not a big reader. I like audiobooks personally. My fiance is a huge
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reader. But basically what we've been doing is she's reading it, I'm listening
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to it, and we kind of just dive into it and talk about it,
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you know. And so going back to the Tank situation, because there's
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a piece in the book that connects really well to what Tank was saying.
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And so basically Tank is saying that, like mainstream culture is pushing you know,
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violence, drug dealing, drug using, and all of these negative aspects
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in our black and minority community. When it comes to the music. However,
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when Sam Smith makes a song like Stay with Me that goes to top
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of the charts, it's pushed everywhere. Tank sings the same exact song and
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it gets limited bandwidth. And his point was is because our violence isn't the
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threat our love is. And so going back to the book that I was
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reading, basically in the the book, the doctor is insinuating that women crave
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unconditional love and men crave unconditional respect. Yet you know, the agenda that's
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pushed through music is men saying, you know, fuck bitches get money and
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women saying niggas ain't shit. And so it's literally breeding like a dysfunctional home
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through music wavefarm, you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of the
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dots that I connected between the two situations, which is crazy to me.
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Facts, man, there's a lot of layers to that for sure, man.
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And also it's one of those things where we even saw it in our
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trips to Atlanta, our quote unquote music industry time period, you know what
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I mean, because you see, there's a cookie cutter formula that you can
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follow and clearly get to at least a certain level to maybe get that look
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to make it to the next level, you know what I mean. And
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there's a pretty clear blueprint of what you have to do. And it's exactly
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what you're saying, Quincy. It's like you got to be on some ratchet
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stuff. You gotta vibe in these areas. You got to be around these
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certain type of people. This is the image they want, this the age
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they want, this the vibe they want, And you can literally just follow
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that to a t and just get all the details around the aura and the
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vibe right. And if you make the right moves, you're almost guaranteeing that
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you're gonna do something. You know what I mean, Because Bro, we've
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both seen it and we both know it. When it comes to street culture,
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Bro, there's one thing that's always going to be king the dude with
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a pocket full of money. Bro. It's the same thing we talk about
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with the Drake thing. Bro, everybody knows a dude in the hood that
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is not really hood, but he got a pocket full of money. So
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everybody lets him slide, you know what I'm saying. And at the end
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of the day, that money thing, dog, and just the way that
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you can kind of pay your way into an image or pay your way into
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a vibe or do things a certain way. And it's, like I said,
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it's almost like, all right, you checked all the boxes, let's
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try to bring you to that next level, you know what I'm saying.
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And it was the thing that deterred us and made us say, nah,
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Bro, this ain't This ain't the type of vibe that we're trying to be
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on, and these ain't the type of people we're trying to rock with.
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And like like where you were talking about Quincy with the industry basically saying the
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industry is trying to push violence and hate and not push love in the black
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and minority community. It's true because when we went to Atlanta, we saw
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that down to a t. That's exactly what that music industry is about,
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exactly what it is. And Bro, that kind of leads me to think
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about this, what do y'all think? Who's wrong them or us? You
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know what I'm saying, Like they pushing it to us, but we eating
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that shit up. Bro, you know what I'm saying. It's like the
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cat chasing his tail or the dunk chasing. You know what I'm saying,
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Bro, All three of us are huge Future fans. Dog. Yeah,
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the Future. He he do got some real stuff he'd be saying. But
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in between that, in between that, it's just a whole bunch of ignorance.
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Bro, He's just saying it in a cool way. Yeah yeah,
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I can't hear you, Joe. Oh yeah, No. Some of that
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stuff that Future says. Damned, it's crazy, but it sounds so good
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the way he's saying it. You just want to repeat it exactly, bro.
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And we all all ignorant stuff for sure, and we all fall into
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that category bro, you know, black and minorities, and we eat like
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like tanks that we eating it up, you know what I'm saying, Like
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they pushing it on us, but we also giving it the bandwidth, you
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know. And I feel like that goes into kind of like the nuanced thing
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that we've talked about, like, and we've talked about it a lot with
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rappers specifically. It's like a lot of people don't understand that rap is a
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game, rap is acting, rap is a scene, rap is a show.
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Yeah, you're listening to it, and you're you should listen to rap
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and take it at phase value, like if you're watching Terminator, you're watching
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Star Wars or something. Bro leave it there. You not leave the theater
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and try to freaking use the force on somebody outside. You know what I'm
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saying, Like, you understand that Star Wars is a you know, a
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show, you know fiction. You know understand that it's a movie. You
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know what I'm saying. You're not leaving a Marvel movie and going outside and
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trying to fly to freaking Thorist planet. You know what I'm saying, Like
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you understand the disconnect the same you know wrestling, bro Rap is wrestling.
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As soon as you're done with it, you understand that. You just watch
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the show, and I feel like that's like the part of it that falls
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into the nuance. It's just like we know so many dump broh. There
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was a dude we used to hang out, like when we all used to
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hang out when he was younger. Right at this point in our lives,
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we all had like a girl or like pretty much a baby. Mom's like
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all of us had a kid already, and everybody had a baby mom's at
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that point. You know what I'm saying. We was all dealing with our
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baby moms, like we was either still together or going through our thing whatever.
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But we all had a girl. And there was one particular dude in
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the group that we wouldn't make fun of him for trying to cake up girls
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and cake up girls basically means like we would try to say, like,
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oh, you're always trying to be a lover boy. You know what I'm
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saying. Keep in mind, we all got girls and kids, we got
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whole families. Making fun of this guy for trying to be romantic with a
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girl, and he believed this so much that he would try to dog chicks
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to like be like, nah, bro, I'm not on that, Like
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nah, no, dog. We all got girls, we all got kids,
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we got families, We having birthday parties with matching shirts and everything.
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And he's the only one believing that, you know, saying, Na,
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nah, bro, I'm not going to get locked down by these girls.
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Like bro, come on, you know what I'm saying. Definitely going to
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join the crowd. And that's the kind of thing I'm talking about, Bro,
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That's the kind of dude that we'll believe what the rappers are saying.
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You know what I'm saying, but it's still an interesting thing to think about
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from that point. That's who that fan base is too. The dudes who
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just want to be grimy and think that's just what how they're going to live
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by. Yep. The dudes that got done wrong by one girl in sixth
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grade and aren't mentally smart enough to understand that the girl that broke your heart
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was a child. Brother. I used to say too those Twitter days,
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and this was like over ten years ago. I was like, yo,
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I once in future, just just pretend like I'm heartbroken. I'm not even
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really heartbroken. I just want to pretend like it. Yeah, bruh,
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and dog, I swear it's what I just said. It's so crucial,
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bro. So many dudes build this persona off of a chick that did them
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wrong in middle school and high school. You got done by a child,
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My guy who was a child. She was a child. Y'all just had
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a stupid y'all was falling out over things when you know, you fell out
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with a chick when the most important thing in your life is playing Halo too,
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and you just now you cheat on every girl, like, Bro,
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grow up, Dog, grow up these these these like issues and stuff.
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And like you said, Quincy is kind of like chasing the tail type thing,
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Like is it just like from what we're seeing, you know what I'm
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saying, Because like where we grew up Quincy, none of us had a
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dad, Bro, Like you know what I'm saying. Your circumstance was different
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because he just wasn't physically able to be here because he was his life was
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cut short, way too early. But for us, it was like all
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our dads just left, like they were all alive and good and well,
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they were just all gone. And this whole neighborhood where nobody got a dad,
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no dad, asked everybody. That's crazy, Bro. I think the
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only person that had that dad was Edgar because they came from d R like
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the whole family mm hmm and the and uh Ricky and Damien. They had
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their father's stuff. Oh yeah, that was it. That was it though,
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right, Yeah, that was it. That's kind of crazy, bro.
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Yeah, I never thought about that. He had two bustfools of kids,
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tools Dog, and two of them had dads. Bro. That's crazy.
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That is wild, Bro. That is out of this world. Dog,
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it's crazy, man. And like you said, Quincy, like and
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when we talked about last week to the chicken of the egg thing, it's
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like, Bro, it's harder. It's harder. It's hard to thrive coming
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out of that dog. It's hard to drive, and it's hard to get
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to the point where we've gotten. Bro. You know what I'm saying.
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Yep. And that's why I sent that image in the chat, bro,
23:45
because it kind of coincided with the whole clip because it's like, you know,
23:49
that dysfunctionality, it translates over to you know, the the whole uh
23:56
what do you call it? Kind of wage discrepancies that's far as like what
24:00
people make. Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying, like the median
24:03
household income. So I basically for the people listening, I basically sent over
24:07
this image in our little chat basically kind of just showing like the median household
24:11
income in the US. And I'm not gonna go through every you know,
24:17
ethnicity because it's a lot, but I'll just do the top few and the
24:19
bottom few. Basically, Jewish Americans we're at one hundred eighty eight thousand.
24:25
Indian Americans were at one hundred and fifty two thousand Filipino Americans with at one
24:27
hundred and nine thousand. Those are the top three and bottom three. Or
24:33
basically, your average American is at sixty three thousand, Native American is at
24:37
fifty eight thousand, and then African American is that fifty one thousand, and
24:41
then I'm just gonna mention Hispanic and Latin Americans sixty five thousand. Brouh.
24:47
I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm gonna keep it one hundred thousand
24:49
on this bro. You you name the top people, right, and there's
24:56
mad like most of them are minorities, right. And you named the bottom
25:02
people and most of them are minorities, right. Dog. I'm Puerto Rican,
25:04
Bro, I'm full Puerto Rican, one hundred percent. Mom and dad
25:08
Puerto Rican. I was born in Puerto Rico. I came here from Puerto
25:11
Rico. Dog. Puerto Ricans that I know are lazy, Bro, They're
25:18
lazy. Dog. I'm gonna keep it one hundred thousand, Bro. I
25:25
know mad people in my family and family friends that have come out here to
25:27
try to make a way, and I know they weren't putting in the effort
25:32
that they needed to be putting in to make it out here. Bro.
25:36
It's hard, dog, But that's why Indians. Bro. You hear stories
25:40
about Indians. Dog, they go to school out in India. They just
25:44
look at what area. I mean, this is not everybody, but I'm
25:47
just getting phone Yep. This is a scenario that that is true that I've
25:52
heard from Indian families. Bro. They go to school to be a very
25:55
specific type of doctor. They look at where in the United States they don't
26:00
don't have that doctor, and they just come here and move here and go
26:03
to that place. And that's it. Broh. Wow, you know what
26:06
I'm saying. Then, and then we talk about the Asian community, Bro,
26:11
they'd be moving out here, all living together, all working at one
26:15
business, making something happen, saving brou. They're not, you know,
26:18
they're not frivolous with their money and they're making it happen. Dog. I
26:22
know mad Mexican people that are be on the same thing. They come together,
26:26
they shack up in the smallest place that they could find. They worked
26:29
their ass off, and in a year they living better than people that have
26:33
been in the United States for twenty years. Though, Hey did it for
26:37
us, and we came from Caly's you know what I'm saying, So I'm
26:41
ana touch on that real quick pause. So basically, he had a hiring
26:44
event yesterday at my job, huge hiring event. Majority black people came to
26:48
the event, and it was really badly executed, I will say, to
26:56
the point where it wasn't targeted, like the ads and stuff weren't target anybody.
27:00
And everybody showed up. And so there were a lot of black people
27:04
that came, and I mean honestly a lot of them, bruh, came
27:07
looking crazz And so we had a meeting basically this morning talking about it,
27:14
like and we were like, yo, you know, they needed to be
27:18
better targeting with the ass We needed to be targeting people that actually have the
27:21
credentials that actually, you know what I'm saying, can do the jobs.
27:23
Like we were sending people out because it's like, Bro, they coming in
27:26
there with strollers and their kids, like it's a Disney park, Like,
27:30
Bro, you're supposed to be coming to get a job, Like what is
27:33
happening? And so my bad, I got I gotta cut you off.
27:36
I emma forget dog. It goes back to the thing we're talking about Dog,
27:40
no dads, nobody there to teach you anything. Like the things that
27:44
you're seeing around you is everybody just being mad lazy, Like it's the chicken
27:48
of the egg thing. Bro, This is the catch twenty two on that
27:51
dog, because I agree because we had one person on the call that was
27:53
really passionate and saying exactly what you were saying, like very passionate, And
27:59
I was like, look, I'm not judging nobody. I trust me,
28:03
am all pro black, and I want all of us to succeed. But
28:06
at the same time, you gotta look at it like this, if this
28:10
is your business, would you want that person taking care of your mom?
28:14
You know what I'm saying. And then on top of that, on top
28:15
of that, I was in the same boat as them at one point,
28:21
I didn't have nobody to teach me how to tie a tie. I learned
28:23
from YouTube. But check this out, though, Dog, Think about all
28:27
the extremely hard shit that you had to do to get to this point,
28:33
not just regular hard shit, extremely hard shit working three jobs and going to
28:38
school. At the same time, dog, like, do you really fault
28:42
people because they're not literally sacrificing their whole life for five plus years to make
28:48
something happen. Bro. Look, you know, I'm I get it.
28:52
I do, and I get what you're saying too, because we've done that.
28:56
Bro, We've put in the work to get out of the situations we
28:57
was in. None of us living in an apartment complex, no more,
29:00
Dog, you know what I'm saying. Like, we're not hanging with the
29:03
homies no more. We're not on the block, no more. We not
29:07
corner boys, no more. Dog, We are in houses in the suburbs.
29:11
My guy, you feel me Like, so, I'm definitely feeling where
29:15
you're coming from. But like you know me, Dog, I always like
29:18
to look at the other side with it. Dog, we had to go
29:21
through a lot of extremely hard shit that a lot of white people didn't have
29:26
to go through that a lot of other you know what I'm saying, Like
29:30
when you think about the ship, Like even what Joe's talking about, Brother,
29:33
shit his family had to do to get to this point where he's able
29:36
to get to the point where he's at professionally, Dog Like, it was
29:41
extremely hard shit that a lot of people didn't have to necessarily go through.
29:47
Bro. So it's like, you know, sometimes people just need a chance.
29:49
Dog. You know, what I mean, like, obviously you have
29:52
to show certain qualities in the ratchetness that is, you know what I'm saying,
29:59
Like you have to, you have to you have to still meet the
30:02
criteria. Of course, you know, it's not just give a chance to
30:04
somebody that don't deserve it. But dog, there's a rose in the concrete.
30:08
Dog. Yeah, So I think I don't think you. I don't
30:12
think you really get it to go to the house. And that's that's the
30:15
toughest. That's that's a give and take about this generation and like for less
30:19
of for an instance, for you that the children you're raising, which they
30:22
are great kids, but just because they don't experience the hardship they got to
30:26
know what what what comes with having that hardship and having to go through the
30:30
ship you didn't have to go through. I graduated from high school and I
30:36
flew or not even flew. We drilled, We drove in the vand me
30:38
and my father drove to the van of Pittsburgh and worked renovating Danny's restaurants overnight.
30:45
That was my summer vacation. Not to graduate in high school because I
30:49
didn't want to go to school and I didn't want to do shit with my
30:52
life. My father's like, all right, so you come do do what
30:55
I do. Then you work with your hands. It took me about two
30:57
and a half months where we had it was like three in the morning.
31:00
We drove to a random store in Pittsburgh. It's not in your Pittsburgh's Pennsylvania
31:07
and they didn't like the wallpaper. So I'm there trying to put the wallpaper
31:11
on. It's like three forty five in the morning. I haven't talked to
31:12
any of my people because I'm working from two in the morning two in the
31:17
afternoon, so I'm sleeping, like and this is post high school graduation where
31:19
I thought it's gonna be the life I live, bro and experiencing what I
31:25
thought I avoided my whole life and thought I wanted to do. And I
31:30
broke down. Bro. I remember just breaking down the night. And then
31:33
that's what my father told me. He's like, you have your chance here
31:36
to choose where you want to go in life. You want to do this
31:38
with me, or you want to go to school and get an education and
31:42
not have to do this with me. And that's where I made the choice,
31:47
and I was like, this ain't this ain't for me. Yeah.
31:51
Yeah, after those two half months, he brought me back home and he's
31:55
like, we're this weekend, I'm taking you back home when you're going to
31:57
schools say less Man that that was the difference maker between who I am today
32:05
and who I could have become. Man who said I wouldn't become successful e
32:07
the way, but that definitely steered me to where I am right in the
32:12
right direction. Yeah. Bro. So I know I've probably told you guys
32:16
like little pieces of this and but I haven't really like told you the whole
32:21
story. Bro. But like when when I was in high school, like
32:25
towards the end of high school, Quincy knows that we had got signed to
32:29
like a little record label. Right. It was me, my boy Richie,
32:32
and my boy Josh. We was a rap group. It was a
32:36
rap group of like five of us in the neighborhood. There was three of
32:38
us that really stuck with it and the third actually it was two of us
32:44
that really stuck with it. And then one we just picked up from school,
32:46
which was Richie. You know what I'm saying. He went to school
32:49
with us. I met him at football tryouts and we just hit it off
32:53
and and he was a rapper. I was a rapper. We started making
32:55
music together. He was dope and we was making dope music together. So
33:00
he just ended up in the group. Two. We get signed to a
33:02
record label out of Maitland, which is like in the middle of or Like
33:07
it's in central Florida, like in Orlando. We get signed to a record
33:12
label. We book a show opening for three six Mafia the House of Blues.
33:16
So that's my first show. Bro, I've never done a show before.
33:20
We just neighborhood rappers. Then we get it. We open it up
33:23
for three six Mafia the House of Blues. We you know, we get
33:29
to the show, kill it. Bro. It was. It went so
33:31
dope. The crowd was super into I mean it was, bro. It
33:35
was amazing. Bro. It was like one of like the craziest experiences in
33:37
my life. We have the show. We we have like a little meet
33:43
and greet type thing with three six Mafia in the backstage. You know,
33:46
we were riding this high and then literally after that happens, we're all gonna
33:52
move, like the whole everybody on the label, We're all gonna move to
33:57
Cali, Bro to La. So like the dude that was our manager.
34:02
He was based in it. Like he came from LA to Orlando, lived
34:06
in Ortlanta for a little bit, and he was ready to go back and
34:07
he was like, Bro, let's all you know. He was like,
34:09
Yo, let's all pack up and we out were going to LA and we're
34:14
gonna make this music thing happen, coming off that, coming off, you
34:19
know, that performance, just getting signed. Everything kind of looking cool for
34:22
us as far as like what we're doing, as far as artists and our
34:25
vibe, our look. Everything cool. Right, some something goes, something
34:31
goes on with my mom and she hits me up and she's like, hey,
34:36
I'm about to move to Pennsylvania. I want you to come with me.
34:42
Bro. I just I didn't even it wasn't even a thought for me.
34:45
Bro. I'm like, all right, bet, I tell these dudes,
34:47
hey, I'm about to move to Pennsylvania with my mom. She needs
34:52
me dog. And everything falls apart. Bro. I moved to instead of
34:57
going to LA signed, like coming off all that and everything, I had
35:02
to go to Pennsylvania and work in a warehouse. Bro in the middle of
35:07
the winter where it was like a warehouse with the where the sheets, you
35:10
know, the the aluminum doors that slide up, Dog, So the things
35:15
was open because it was like a warehouse where they're bringing mad apple products.
35:20
You know what I'm saying to like basically ship out, to box up together
35:23
and ship out, Bro. And it's dumb cold. Bro. It's like
35:28
blizzard time, literally, Bro, Like we went through a blizzard while we
35:31
was there. Dog. I'm from Puerto Rico, Bro, Fort Rico,
35:36
Texas and Florida is the places I've lived. Dog. And I'm supposed to
35:40
be in La signed to a label with my label mates, and I'm in
35:45
Pennsylvania in a warehouse in fucking blizzard weather. Bro. Waking up at three
35:52
thirty in the morning to go to work at the warehouse to come home at
35:57
like seven or eight Bro at night like just going crazy because you know,
36:04
just because my mom needed my help, Bro, and and I just you
36:07
know what I'm saying, I had to be there. That's a sacrifice.
36:09
You didn't know how big of a sacrifice you made at that young of an
36:14
age, Bro, I didn't know. Dog. It just wasn't even a
36:17
thought. Wow, it wasn't even a second thought in my head. Bro.
36:21
I was just like, my mom needs me I'm gone. Like they
36:23
was mad at me. I had to kind of I had to wait like
36:27
the contract out because I was like signed for five years, you know what
36:30
I'm saying, And like after I left, bro, everything kind of just
36:32
fell apart. But they still had the rights to like my music for the
36:36
next like two or three Like it was like three more years. It might
36:39
have been like four more years, bro, but you know what I'm saying.
36:42
So I had to kind of like I didn't really want to do nothing
36:45
musically because I knew that if if anything happened, they were going to get
36:50
all the money, you know what I'm saying. So I kind of just
36:52
waited that out. And like, Bro, it's just crazy, like crazy
36:57
crazy crazy, like like all the twists and turns that my life has taken
37:01
and like all those you know, left when I could have made a right
37:06
rights when I could have made a left, you know what I'm saying,
37:07
And just like, but I'm where I need to be, you know what
37:10
I'm saying. Like that, that that's that's a big part of how I
37:14
evaluate. There's sometimes I go deep into the decisions I made in life,
37:20
and I'll be it a lot of them. I wish I would have chosen
37:23
differently. I'm like, maybe I would have not been wearing AT today.
37:28
Like sometimes I wish things went better for me than they did, but then
37:32
that would affect me being here wearing AT today, And there's nowhere else I'd
37:38
rather be than wear I'm at today. That's the question. Choose that ship.
37:43
Yeah, I feel that my bad for cutting you off, but it's
37:45
honestly, bro, There's something that I've wanted to ask you, but I've
37:50
never asked it because I kind of feel embarrassed to ask it, But I
37:54
want to. I want your honest answers for this. When we were in
37:59
high school, what was your like perception of me? When I met you?
38:09
I felt I thought like you kind of like were the you know how
38:15
like you see, like the leader in the neighborhood. Yeah, you kind
38:19
of came off as like the person that everybody kind of followed, you know
38:22
what I mean, definitely like in school because like and like that's kind of
38:27
what I want to know, like because I was like the one that was
38:30
like I was in school, but like I wasn't going to school all the
38:35
time. I was kind of hanging out with like the older kids and like
38:38
into some shit that I shouldn't have been into. So it was like I
38:43
always wondered like like how y'all like kind of perceived that, you know what
38:49
I mean, And just like because I like when I look back at it
38:52
now from you know, just growing up and just knowing like how stupid I
38:57
was being. Yeah, you was another Yeah that's exactly what I like.
39:02
Nah, But I thought that was just kind of like you know, like
39:07
your personality, you know what I'm saying. And that's another reason why it's
39:09
so funny to me sometimes of how like introverted you are now compared to how
39:14
like extroverted you were then, you know what I'm saying. It's a complete
39:16
difference. And even like kind of tying it into that Cali thing, like
39:21
almost moving to Cali out of high school, Like I think about it like
39:25
that that's who I was at that time. Imagine me going to LA like
39:30
that, like no house training. I didn't really like you know what I
39:35
mean, like I was. I was just so like spaced out like mentally
39:39
almost like it's like if I would have went that way, bro, I
39:43
don't think it would have went well for me. It probably exactly it could
39:45
have went down a whole bad road. Yeah, that's when you look back,
39:51
and that's those what ifs that you just got to give up. And
39:53
I wonder how I would have went because you accepted the way it went.
39:58
Now yep, Bro, Like it's crazy, dog, because like I literally
40:05
and it's bro. It's something that I've even talked about with my wife recently.
40:08
Like it's crazy for me cause like all all my friends, like all
40:15
my old friends, they're still around, bro, you know what I'm saying,
40:19
And I missed them, dog, you know what I mean, Like
40:21
I'm not going to front here, like I don't want to be around them,
40:23
like I want I want to see my guys, you know what I'm
40:25
saying. Like these are people that I grew up with, the people I'm
40:29
known from like elementary, middle school, you know, right out of high
40:31
school, like hanging out and stuff. But it's like, Dog, the
40:35
stuff that they're on, I just can't be on that stuff. You know
40:38
what I'm saying, Like I just got it. It goes back to the
40:40
thing that we talked about with you know, doctor disrespect and just all these
40:45
people that be fucking up bro diddy, all that stuff. Man, it's
40:49
like, Dog, these dudes knew what they had to avoid, you know
40:52
what I'm saying, They just couldn't avoid it, right, you know what
40:57
I'm saying. And for me, Bro, I'm not gonna lie do Sometimes
41:00
it'd be hard for me to like avoid it all the time, you know
41:04
what I'm saying. Like, and it's like one of those things where it's
41:07
like, like I said, Dog, it kind of messes with your head
41:10
when it's like all you knew growing up type thing, you know what I
41:14
mean. And it's like sometimes I feel like it's unfair, Like dang,
41:16
why can't I hang out with my friends? You know what I mean.
41:20
That's kind of how I look at it, Like why can't I just go
41:22
hang out here and there or whatever? But it's like, nah, Bro,
41:25
like when when when things don't line up, things don't line up,
41:29
you know what I mean? Yeah, that's I mean. I think we
41:34
all probably have those friends. That's like that. I think you know that
41:38
with growth come sacrifice, and sometimes that's just part of the sacrifice, I
41:43
feel you, dog, And part of it was my own decisions. But
41:46
all my friends are like that. It's every single one, bro, Like
41:52
literally the only like the only people that are like out of it is probably
42:00
you, Edgar, Izzy, Kevin, Kevin, and ricky mm hmm.
42:08
That's literally five people, Bro, that I can think of right now specifically
42:13
that I could say, all right, they they're like out of there in
42:17
the clear. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna be real though,
42:20
I can't think of too many more that on the bulls dog like upstanding citizens.
42:29
Yeah, Bro, that's it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
42:31
that's it. And I also think that, you know, if you
42:36
didn't have, if you were in the life situation that you are in now
42:38
with a family, a wife and stuff like that, you probably would you
42:43
probably be looking at a little different you know what I'm saying, You got
42:45
you got things to consider. Always say, dog, that my daughters in
42:51
my life, like just the one was that I couldn't be no dead beat.
42:58
That's the only like, that's literally the only thing that kept me going
43:00
in the beginning because like, like when it came to me, Bro,
43:05
I did not care, you know what I'm saying, Like I just tossed
43:07
myself to the side. But when it came to her, it was like,
43:10
nah, Bro, like this ain't no way, dog, she ain't
43:14
going through none of this stuff. I recorded a song before she was born,
43:16
dog that I want to find man like, and I literally called it
43:21
before my daughter, and it was literally just me like writing what I wanted
43:27
to be for her, you know what I mean, Like like you definitely
43:30
got to find that, yeah, and I know I have it somewhere and
43:31
I got to find it. And it really and it literally just touches on
43:35
like the stuff we talked about, Like it's like it's crazy with music,
43:38
bro, Like you can put those spots down and you don't even know that's
43:42
like that you're really putting those stocks down because like, really, what I
43:45
was talking about there is like, Bro, I've been through so much stuff
43:47
that I don't want her to go through none of it. You know what
43:50
I'm saying. I just want her to like the filter of me, like
43:54
fucking up. You know what I'm saying. I just want to pass her
43:57
the game and set her up. And it's like you don't got to go
44:00
through none of it, but you're gonna You're gonna learn from the things that
44:04
I did wrong and things that I've seen, you know what I mean.
44:07
That's dope. Literally, like that was just like she was just my like
44:12
guidance star and that was it. Like everything literally is from her, Like
44:15
she's like the pillar of like me elevating in life, like it all is
44:21
like she's that that thing, you know what I mean, like the north
44:23
star of it always. And obviously after that, you know, it was
44:29
even her before my wife, you know what I mean, Like in the
44:31
beginning, you know, because like like I was saying, bro, like
44:36
you know, I wasn't My mind wasn't all there in them stages, you
44:39
know what I mean. So it was like it was her, then it
44:42
was my wife, and then when I had my son, you know what
44:44
I mean. Like, but it was like a growing process because of what
44:46
we're talking about, bro, Like a lot of those good things weren't there
44:51
for me so that I can kind of I had. I had to grow
44:53
through stupid shit, you know what I mean, Like I didn't have nobody
44:58
to say, nah, I don't do that, you know what I mean?
45:00
Like, and bro, it's crazy, man, Just like I wanted
45:04
to reflect on a lot of just life stuff and I'm glad y'all y'all was
45:08
able to open up and we was really able to different things. Because episode
45:14
one hundred of the podcast, it's a big episode. People been locked in
45:17
with us. I really feel like it's dope to give them that start and
45:22
just let them know, like really like the specific things we've been through and
45:24
like different things that have shaped us and what has gotten us to this point.
45:29
And just and I say that to say this, Bro, the stuff
45:31
we're saying on this podcast, and we've been saying from the beginning, is
45:36
real life stuff. You know what I'm saying, and were coming from,
45:38
were coming at it from a point of view that is one hundred percent verified.
45:44
You know what I'm saying, Like, we talking to you as dudes
45:46
that have put in the work and have seen the fruit of the work,
45:50
and we know these things work because we make it happen. And the fact
45:52
that we all three minorities coming at it and making it happen is even more
45:58
of a testament because we've worked through those issues as well. You know what
46:01
I'm saying, Like, Bro, when I came here, my family didn't
46:05
know how to speak English, Bro, and now we're in the position that
46:08
we owning businesses, owning property, making stuff happen. Not different than the
46:13
past facts, man, Like y'all, bro, Like the things y'all have
46:17
done and are doing are like major things, you know what I'm saying.
46:22
And it's just, you know, like I was saying earlier, we come
46:24
from the era where it's like you just show you your proof and that's like
46:32
what gets you along or whatever. But now it's like people want to see
46:36
the progress. People want to see the scars, you know what I'm saying.
46:38
Like it's a different world that we're coming up in, and we got
46:40
that, you know what I'm saying, Like, we got those real stories
46:44
and we've been through that real stuff. And if that's something that we got
46:46
to tap into to lead into these next hundred episodes, you know what I
46:51
mean? Yeah, we shall exactly. But yeah, man, as far
46:57
as me what I got going on, We got our next softball game.
47:00
Do We started owing three and then we've run the table, haven't lost since
47:04
to the point where our last game we have to face the best team to
47:08
make the playoffs, Bro, when they're go home. So man, I
47:13
wouldn't have it any other way. That's going to be super dope. We
47:15
have the underdog story of the century. We know, we just want to
47:19
make We're gonna come through. If y'all want to bet on us with like
47:22
plus one yo, and then my son's league. We're about to play the
47:28
only team that's beat them. If we beat them, we tied for first
47:30
on Saturday, so I'm super hype about that. We had our first practice
47:34
with me as coach on Wednesday. Wore on mouth. They was tired.
47:37
Bro sweatings, Yeah, water breaks, you know what I'm saying, Get
47:43
all right, yep. I was making sure they understand that they need to
47:47
get in an open position when we're on offense. They need to be ready
47:52
to shoot. I don't want y'all looking off to the side. I don't
47:54
want you to have to set up and turn around, like be ready to
47:58
score. The team that we about to play they got some giants, dog.
48:00
You know what I'm saying. I need my team to be able to
48:04
hit these jump shots. So he was locked in. I'm excited to see
48:07
how the game goes. I'm nervous, excited, man, but I know
48:08
we don't make it happen. And then Sunday, Bro it all culminates in.
48:15
It's gonna be the first time that I get to hold my nephew dog
48:20
to hold them. I'm so hyped. It's you already know brom about had
48:27
a soft guy tier. Bro. Bro, I'm gonna be blubbering all my
48:36
guy. Man. That's funny. Yeah, man, Bro, when it
48:40
like it's funny, Man, I'm like real like stone face and real serious
48:45
and stuff like the outside people. Bro. But like with family stuff,
48:50
Bro, I'm a big soft dog. Like when my kids go to school
48:54
on the first day when they do something mad cool, I cry. You
49:00
know what I'm saying, Like when I watched things, I cried like,
49:02
Bro, I'm like the biggest softy, low key bro. But yeah,
49:07
man, I know Quincy got a lot going on with the job and the
49:12
wedding coming up. Bro. We're all, man, we all have some
49:15
some dope times. Man. I feel like the last few episodes we were
49:20
all like coming out of like rough stages, just as far as like locking
49:22
in with work, locking in with business, just ups and downs of life.
49:27
I already know, man, and we've just been locked in Man,
49:30
And I'm hype. I'm excited because I feel kind of validated from the point
49:37
of view that I picked you guys to do the show with because I knew
49:42
y'all was gonna be locked in, and I felt I just had a feeling,
49:45
you know what I'm saying. I was like, imagine on their stuff
49:49
and they're gonna be locked in. And y'all have been locked in, man,
49:52
And I'm super grateful to y'all for you know, locking in with the
49:55
show and you know, giving it the importance that it deserves, because,
50:00
like I said, man, we're talking about some real stuff here. Man.
50:02
Yeah. Now, I remember the first couple episodes I had. I
50:06
listened to them. Man, I just love the whole layout and a whole
50:09
motion behind it, you know, coming from having a full year of having
50:14
my own podcast, and this was in twenty seventeen when it was brand new,
50:17
and the format that I dated compared to the format that we're doing here,
50:24
it's such a different transition. It's such an appreciated transition. It takes
50:28
the pressure off having to be so much in real time to just keep up
50:32
with the algorithm and the trends and improved still how just genuine you know,
50:38
constructive content can still get you the views and the engagement that you're looking for.
50:45
Yeah. Man, we pretty much just worked out the kinks as far
50:47
as like how to present the stuff that we want to present in a way
50:52
that people are locked in with it. And like you said, like you
50:55
said, Joe, we you know, we've we've made it work with our
51:00
formula and what we want to present. We haven't you know, even like
51:04
with the reaction stuff we've done and the different stuff we've done as far as
51:07
tapping into current events, We've always approached it with the mindset of the theme
51:13
that we want to stay in, which is staying grounded, you know,
51:15
sticking to your pillars when it comes to you know, things that you're gonna
51:21
do as far as morally in your life and bro a lot of the stuff
51:25
that we've been talking about lately has been people failing morally, you know what
51:30
I'm saying. And I feel like this podcast, this show, this vibe
51:35
is a good thing to keep people in that line, you know what I'm
51:37
saying to always remember, you know, kind of like from Tropic Thunderdog,
51:42
you can't go full, you know what I'm saying. You can't go full.
51:45
When you go full, that's when you cross the line. So you
51:50
know, that's something I always even just carry with me when I'm going through
51:53
the dark times. You know what I'm saying. I know I can't go
51:55
full because I still got a plan I'm executing. I'm still lining up and
52:00
that's the thing that keeps me focused when, like I'm saying, bro,
52:02
you know, sometimes you want to falter and you realize like nah, man,
52:08
like I can't go full. You know what I'm saying, and never
52:12
go full, Never go full if you know, you know, I hope
52:16
you know exactly. Never hold her back then last word, yeah man,
52:22
but yeah, man, whatever y'all want to leave them with leave them with
52:27
it because we ready to sign outn Hey, go ahead, stay all the
52:31
way as better as you can never be. Yo. We said that we
52:36
were in the meal the States. We did it, you ca. Yeah.
52:42
So one time I was I used to get really lit on these episodes,
52:46
right, like really to the point where if you go back on some
52:52
episodes the last ten minutes, I'm just like, so I try to say
52:59
stay ground I tried it. I was here and I was like, hell
53:01
yeah, I was in the mode. I was like out. You know,
53:07
when I went to go stay stay grounded, I was like, yeah,
53:09
everybody's just stay yo. We got that, and not nobody counted that
53:16
I thought nobody caught it either until like a week later like definitely said stay
53:22
butter, And I was like, I don't know what I said, but
53:24
the clip and it was literally like so clear, like how you trying to
53:29
say stay grounded and stay stayed buttered, yo, And it just became the
53:38
sign off after that, Bro, I'm going to pull that clip up for
53:42
the one hundred and we got it. We got to we got to just
53:46
bro let the whole g fans in because they know, brother, I've never
53:51
said state butter ever in my entire life. Just like you know, that's
53:55
never been a phrase or sign off that I remember using my life. It
54:00
came out so far from ground and how did you like? That was definitely
54:05
a missfire in my dog bring list, Yo? What you call frodian slip
54:10
yo? Fags man, Yeah, that's that's the origins dog. And with
54:16
that you already know, Joe, stay better. Puffy, do not county
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Puffy dot not Puspy, do not county Puspy, do not counter act not
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a not after acunding ever Act