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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy. I waited Jimmy Butler got traded,
- 0:03Speaker 1: like what ten to fifteen minutes. I was like, it's
- 0:05Speaker 1: gotta be more to this trade. It's gotta be more
- 0:07Speaker 1: to this trade. I have put my head on because
- 0:09Speaker 1: you know, you can tell I need a shape up.
- 0:10Speaker 1: I was just waiting. I need more details, any more details,
- 0:13Speaker 1: all the details out. Listen, gentlemen. Jimmy Butler got about
- 0:16Speaker 1: ninety percent of what he was originally asking for. He
- 0:18Speaker 1: requested the trade what feels like six months ago. In
- 0:20Speaker 1: the reality, it was about a month ago. And one
- 0:22Speaker 1: of the reasons he requested the trade is because of
- 0:24Speaker 1: the contract situation, which we're gonna we're gonna get to.
- 0:26Speaker 1: He got about ninety percent of what he wanted. He's
- 0:29Speaker 1: been suspended to three different times. There was either this
- 0:31Speaker 1: fake promo or this fake like media push that like
- 0:35Speaker 1: the Miami Heat, they don't they don't have to trade Jimmy.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Actually the player said they want him back. Nah. That
- 0:42Speaker 1: was just so people could pick that phone back up
- 0:44Speaker 1: and get a little bit desperate. And some team got desperate. Damnit.
- 0:48Speaker 1: That team is the Golden State Warriors. Here's the details
- 0:52Speaker 1: of the trade. So it is wigging to this Shrewder
- 0:54Speaker 1: who keeps getting passed around the league, Kyle Anderson in
- 0:56Speaker 1: the first round pick. That's not it though, because again
- 0:58Speaker 1: I waited for it because I look like there's no
- 1:01Speaker 1: way that's all of it. Well, Nope, it's not. Dennis
- 1:04Speaker 1: Shrewder is gonna go to Utah, col Anderson is going
- 1:07Speaker 1: to Toronto. So instead of it being the three team trade,
- 1:09Speaker 1: because I ain't even mentioned that Lenny Waters and Johns
- 1:11Speaker 1: Richardson is going to Detroit, it's a five team. It's
- 1:14Speaker 1: a good old five team deal to get Jimmy Butler
- 1:16Speaker 1: to the Golden State Warriors. Now, I'll talk about a
- 1:19Speaker 1: team panicking. I think that's what the Warriors did. And
- 1:21Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing because I
- 1:22Speaker 1: have been an advocate for the Steph Curry timeline forever.
- 1:25Speaker 1: But I do believe that the Golden State Warrior is
- 1:26Speaker 1: definitely panicked on this one. Let's talk about it. My
- 1:29Speaker 1: boy lowheaded video that he posted on Twitter where he
- 1:32Speaker 1: went over the twelve mishaps or missus that the Golden
- 1:36Speaker 1: State wars have had over the last like four so years.
- 1:38Speaker 1: It starts off when they have the second overall pick,
- 1:40Speaker 1: and then what the eighth seventh overall pick, and they
- 1:42Speaker 1: take James Wiseman get will soon wise, but he's no
- 1:45Speaker 1: longer on this team. They take johnath Minga. Then they
- 1:47Speaker 1: take Moses Moody instead of trading for a Pascal Siakamu's
- 1:50Speaker 1: available at that time, or trader for Bradley Beal. Maybe
- 1:52Speaker 1: that was a good thing considering what his contract is nowadays.
- 1:54Speaker 1: They missed out there, and more recently they decided that
- 1:57Speaker 1: Brandon Ponzimski was untouchable in the liary market. The trade
- 1:59Speaker 1: they called for Paul George. Just over the last twenty
- 2:01Speaker 1: four hours, they were calling for Kevin Durant and Kevin
- 2:03Speaker 1: Raht said, don't trade for me. I don't really give
- 2:05Speaker 1: a damn to play for y'all. So it feels like
- 2:07Speaker 1: they were like, we have to do something, we have
- 2:10Speaker 1: to do something, And this is coming on the heels
- 2:13Speaker 1: of basically Draymond, Steph Curry and Steve Kerr going to
- 2:16Speaker 1: the Polium and said we're not going to give up
- 2:18Speaker 1: our future for one last swing. And they didn't give
- 2:21Speaker 1: up a ton here, don't get me wrong, but they
- 2:23Speaker 1: definitely are going for one last swing, and I think
- 2:25Speaker 1: that is completely completely okay. Now back to the original point,
- 2:29Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler got ninety something percent of what he originally wanted.
- 2:34Speaker 1: When Jimmy Butler formally questing trade, he said he wants
- 2:36Speaker 1: to get his joy back. He said he don't think
- 2:38Speaker 1: it can happen in Miami and that he would play
- 2:39Speaker 1: for all of the twenty nine other teams. That lasted
- 2:42Speaker 1: about two hours because the Memphis Grizzy picked up the
- 2:44Speaker 1: phone and said, hey, we're interested in Jimmy Butler. Jimmy
- 2:47Speaker 1: and company said, no, don't trade for me. It's not
- 2:49Speaker 1: because he doesn't like desm Vange, John Moreta, Jeron Jackson,
- 2:51Speaker 1: Julia's basketball fit around him. I honestly think that would
- 2:54Speaker 1: have been the best case Jimmy, but it's because the
- 2:57Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies were not looking to give Jimmy Butler the
- 2:59Speaker 1: contract that he wanted. The myth is Grazzy, look at
- 3:01Speaker 1: this is the opportunity to get off a little bit
- 3:03Speaker 1: of money and allow them to re sign Jaron Jackson
- 3:05Speaker 1: Junior on this nice extension. Because he's a fucking dog, right.
- 3:08Speaker 1: He said, don't trade for me if you're not gonna
- 3:10Speaker 1: give me the money that I want. Don't trade for me.
- 3:11Speaker 1: That's same thing he said to the Golden State Warriors.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Don't trade for me. I hear y'all in just it.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Don't trade for me unless you're gonna pay me. And
- 3:17Speaker 1: they absolutely did. The Golden Said Warriors star Jimmy Butler
- 3:21Speaker 1: has agreed to a two year, one hundred and twenty
- 3:22Speaker 1: one million dollar extension with the franchise through twenty twenty six,
- 3:25Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. You know, he gonna decline that player
- 3:27Speaker 1: os for twenty twenty five twenty twenty six, so he
- 3:29Speaker 1: gets the bag that he originally wanted. And I guess
- 3:32Speaker 1: the cool thing about this is that with this two
- 3:33Speaker 1: year extension, it lines up perfectly with Steph Curry's contract
- 3:36Speaker 1: and Draymond Green's contract. So when we say they're going
- 3:39Speaker 1: for the one last Hurrah, this is the definition of
- 3:41Speaker 1: it right now. I think one thing I do very
- 3:43Speaker 1: poorly is I look at a trade like this, a
- 3:46Speaker 1: big deal where a superstar or whatever you want to
- 3:50Speaker 1: put whatever caliber player you want to say, Jimmy Butler is,
- 3:52Speaker 1: and I look at it from one hundred thousand feet
- 3:55Speaker 1: in the sky and say, hey, Jimmy Butler and the Warriors, Oh,
- 4:00Speaker 1: or things happening, Oh no, Jimmy Butler on the Warriors,
- 4:03Speaker 1: that don't make them a championship tea. But I have
- 4:06Speaker 1: to catch myself there. I have to catch myself there,
- 4:08Speaker 1: because while right now I do believe that's the case,
- 4:11Speaker 1: that adding just Jimmy Butler to this roster doesn't make
- 4:13Speaker 1: them a championship contender, I still think it gives them
- 4:16Speaker 1: a better chance today than they did yesterday. And sometimes
- 4:18Speaker 1: it's all that's really about, you know. We always want
- 4:21Speaker 1: to look at these things from the bigger, bigger lens,
- 4:24Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like, man, Steph Curry is struggling out there, y'all.
- 4:28Speaker 1: He's seeing two to three bodies on a nightly basis.
- 4:32Speaker 1: The shots, the open looks that he was able to
- 4:35Speaker 1: create or get generated for him are no longer there,
- 4:38Speaker 1: and he is having the hardest time of his career
- 4:41Speaker 1: just getting off open looks. Jimmy Butler is a talent
- 4:47Speaker 1: upgrade Jimmy Butler. I mean, at the end of the day,
- 4:51Speaker 1: the only real rotation player they cared about was Wiggins.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is better than Wiggins, just full stop. He's
- 4:56Speaker 1: better than Wiggins. He's a better cutter, he's a better passer,
- 4:59Speaker 1: he's a in the posts. He's better across the board
- 5:02Speaker 1: than the only thing Wiggats probably has at this point
- 5:04Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. He's a better defender than what
- 5:06Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is. But Jimmy Butler is still a good defender.
- 5:09Speaker 1: He's just not the all defensive caliber player that he
- 5:11Speaker 1: was seven years ago. So it's a talent upgrade. Jimmy
- 5:15Speaker 1: Butler is going to be respected. And the thing about
- 5:17Speaker 1: Jimmy that makes it tough is that I just feel
- 5:19Speaker 1: like his counting stats right now seventeen points per game,
- 5:21Speaker 1: five rebounds, five assists. Cool, that's not anything super crazy.
- 5:24Speaker 1: The one thing that is super interesting about Jimmy is
- 5:26Speaker 1: the efficiency numbers, because I do believe that Jimmy Butler
- 5:29Speaker 1: has been phoning it in all season long because he's
- 5:31Speaker 1: been waiting for this time to be traded. There was
- 5:33Speaker 1: a couple of games early in the seas where he
- 5:34Speaker 1: had back to back games with seven shots eight shots.
- 5:37Speaker 1: That's not Jimmy Butler. But at the end of the day,
- 5:39Speaker 1: he didn't like what Sposter was incorporated with Tyler Harrow
- 5:42Speaker 1: being the guy, and he also didn't like what the
- 5:43Speaker 1: hell pat Ryley was saying behind the scenes, so he
- 5:46Speaker 1: kind of did this on court Boycott at some point
- 5:48Speaker 1: it got him benched in back to back forth quarters.
- 5:51Speaker 1: So I can't look at Jimmy Butler's count and stats
- 5:52Speaker 1: to be like, man, that's just a small upgrade over Wiggins.
- 5:56Speaker 1: What the reality is, it's a significant upgrade. It's been
- 5:59Speaker 1: a minute since we see Jimmy Butler be at the
- 6:00Speaker 1: peak of his powers, right, I think it was twenty
- 6:03Speaker 1: twenty two, Right, twenty twenty two we seen Jimmy Butler
- 6:06Speaker 1: put that backpack on and say, hey, I'm him. Right.
- 6:08Speaker 1: I do think that part of Jimmy Butler still in
- 6:11Speaker 1: there somewhere, and they're banking on him being able to
- 6:15Speaker 1: really dive deep into that and allow him to do
- 6:18Speaker 1: that with the Warriors, Right, Jimmy Butler gives them a
- 6:21Speaker 1: whole different look offensively, Like Steph Curry is one of
- 6:25Speaker 1: the greatest point guards of all time. But I love
- 6:27Speaker 1: when Steph Curry doesn't have to be the album to
- 6:29Speaker 1: bring the ball up type of dude. Jimmy Butler has
- 6:32Speaker 1: the capabilities to be the point forward if you will
- 6:35Speaker 1: him and Draymond on the court together might be a
- 6:37Speaker 1: little interesting when it comes to the space, but there
- 6:39Speaker 1: having time to our warrior's history because Steph Curry is
- 6:41Speaker 1: such a leath to threat from three that he kind
- 6:43Speaker 1: of counts as two floor spaces in one. So I'm
- 6:46Speaker 1: not thinking about I already see if he was saying
- 6:48Speaker 1: the space, then the team gonna be interested and it
- 6:49Speaker 1: might be interesting. It might not work, but I look
- 6:51Speaker 1: at who Steph Curry is. I say, his spacing is enough,
- 6:54Speaker 1: so be it to kind of cover up the lack
- 6:56Speaker 1: of shooting, even though Jimmy Butler has been at least
- 6:58Speaker 1: an average three points shoot over the last couple of
- 7:00Speaker 1: years on low volume. I don't hate this. Again, it
- 7:03Speaker 1: doesn't turn them into a championship level team.
- 7:05Speaker 2: But when I look at they payroll, I say, hey, hmm,
- 7:08Speaker 2: you know, let's look at this payroll, right, And this
- 7:10Speaker 2: is pre trade, So like Wiggins obviously gonna shooters obviously gone,
- 7:14Speaker 2: Kyle Anderson obviously gone.
- 7:15Speaker 1: You know, they traded Lendy Water, so they traded a
- 7:17Speaker 1: lot of different stuff. And I don't know if they
- 7:20Speaker 1: want to cut things completely, but I look at I
- 7:23Speaker 1: look at Kevon Looney, who's been there forever but expiring
- 7:26Speaker 1: contract eight million dollars. I look at Gary Payton, who
- 7:29Speaker 1: makes that number quick quick map about seventeen some million dollars.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I look at pods, like if you really wanted to
- 7:36Speaker 1: go out there and get a floor space in five
- 7:38Speaker 1: I'm watching one on my TV right now. His name
- 7:40Speaker 1: is Nicola Vusovitch. They'd already been in conversations with Vusavich anyway,
- 7:44Speaker 1: but they pivoted away in order to make something like
- 7:46Speaker 1: this happen. And there's a whorld where they could do both.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying this is what they're gonna do. I
- 7:49Speaker 1: dig at a text and said, the words aren't done.
- 7:52Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they're gonna go get the all start.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're gonna get a superstar. But there's
- 7:55Speaker 1: a whorl where they also make another move or two
- 7:59Speaker 1: they do play to and they just gave up like
- 8:01Speaker 1: five players, So I don't know who they help playing
- 8:03Speaker 1: the night. But again from the top top rope view,
- 8:07Speaker 1: it doesn't make them a contender. But I also don't
- 8:09Speaker 1: think that really matters. At the end of the day,
- 8:11Speaker 1: we still have no report on what the protections on
- 8:14Speaker 1: that pick is so maybe ends up being something interesting,
- 8:17Speaker 1: but as of right now, that pick is just what
- 8:19Speaker 1: it is. It's just the pick. Miami is working through
- 8:21Speaker 1: the resolution with Kyle Anderson Toronto. Porson fell through. He
- 8:26Speaker 1: could say or be moved on a massive deal with
- 8:28Speaker 1: many moving parts. Okay, because PJ. Tucker's back in Miami too,
- 8:32Speaker 1: I guess I guess that just happened to So again,
- 8:36Speaker 1: upgrade is good, maybe not great, but the upgrade is good. Now,
- 8:41Speaker 1: I'll look at the other side of things. You think
- 8:43Speaker 1: about Miami not having nearly any leverage in this deal,
- 8:46Speaker 1: I think they walked out smiling. Like Andrew Wiggins is
- 8:49Speaker 1: a really good basketball player. I know he's an All
- 8:51Speaker 1: Star few years ago. He's not gonna do that anymore.
- 8:53Speaker 1: But like, let's look at the again, just the counting stats.
- 8:56Speaker 1: As of right now, Wiggins is seventeen point six, he's bounce,
- 9:00Speaker 1: he's two assists, and he's shooting thirty eight percent from three.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of Miami heat since Jimmy Butler's
- 9:06Speaker 1: been going because I like khalail Ware. I like watching
- 9:07Speaker 1: khalail Ware, and I like watching Damn on the bio
- 9:09Speaker 1: When he's got it going. They desperately could use another
- 9:12Speaker 1: bigger wing in Wiggins being six to seven defensive, I'm
- 9:15Speaker 1: gonna say mastermind, but he's definitely a good defender. He's
- 9:19Speaker 1: the type of player that I think fits I'm not
- 9:20Speaker 1: gonna say he culture that's dead toity in a way,
- 9:23Speaker 1: maybe because they put it on the jersey and put
- 9:25Speaker 1: it on the floor. I hate the term Heat culture,
- 9:27Speaker 1: but he fits the type of player that the Miami
- 9:30Speaker 1: Heat would like. I think he fits well with Bam.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I think he fits well with Tyler Harrow. I think
- 9:34Speaker 1: this is again given that Jimmy Butler had been sabotaging
- 9:39Speaker 1: his trade value for the last month or so, this
- 9:41Speaker 1: is a really good pick up for them. And then
- 9:44Speaker 1: you also incorporate the fact that they do get the
- 9:46Speaker 1: first round pick, whatever the protections are, it's a good
- 9:49Speaker 1: deal pat Riley and ty Riley has slept through the
- 9:51Speaker 1: deadline a couple of different times over the last couple
- 9:53Speaker 1: of years. This was one of them years where he
- 9:55Speaker 1: wasn't able to do that, and he did trade Jimmy
- 9:57Speaker 1: Butler away and get back something of value. Even if
- 10:00Speaker 1: you don't see Wiggins is a long term fit alongside
- 10:03Speaker 1: Tyler herro and all of those things. Wiggins again is
- 10:05Speaker 1: a damn good player, and if you wanted to move
- 10:07Speaker 1: him to his next team, I'm looking at this looking
- 10:09Speaker 1: for his contract. He's got next year at twenty eight million,
- 10:12Speaker 1: then the player option for thirty. It's not a bad
- 10:14Speaker 1: contract for the type of production that Wiggins pulls out there.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So I like this from the Miami Heat perspective, maybe
- 10:19Speaker 1: a little bit more than I like it from the Warriors,
- 10:21Speaker 1: because again, they're not going all in to win a championship.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Like I don't look at the ceiling of the Miami
- 10:26Speaker 1: Heat any differently, but I do think this is a
- 10:29Speaker 1: team that should make the playoffs and they continue to
- 10:32Speaker 1: develop some of the younger players and continue to let
- 10:34Speaker 1: Tyler Herrold develop as an all start get bammed back
- 10:37Speaker 1: on this offensive his offensive stuff. I don't mind this whatsoever.
- 10:41Speaker 1: And the Detroit Pistons bringing in Lindy Waters, I thought
- 10:44Speaker 1: it was really interesting that Landy Waters ended up with
- 10:46Speaker 1: the Pistons and not just sticking with Miami. When you
- 10:48Speaker 1: think about the way the Miami he liked to play basketball.
- 10:51Speaker 1: I just typed in Miami. Try to type in Lendy Waters.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Lenny Waters so far this season the thirty three percent
- 10:57Speaker 1: three point shooter, but he has been a league averagehoot
- 11:00Speaker 1: the majority of his career. I just find it interested
- 11:02Speaker 1: in that he didn't find his way there. You know,
- 11:04Speaker 1: maybe they just maybe they looked this year. He's like, no,
- 11:06Speaker 1: we'd rather just not have to pay this kid because
- 11:08Speaker 1: he has not been able to shoot this year where
- 11:11Speaker 1: he's had two million dollars, I would have just taken
- 11:13Speaker 1: that or whatever. He goes to Detroit and Detroit becomes facilitators.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I think one loser no list is we gotta talk
- 11:19Speaker 1: about things Sons, right, because it got so weird right
- 11:22Speaker 1: because the Phoenix Sons were obviously interested in Jimmy Baller.
- 11:25Speaker 1: At one point, Brian Winhurst reported that the Sons had
- 11:30Speaker 1: called all twenty nine other teams across basketball trying to
- 11:32Speaker 1: find somebody to take Bradlebill's contract, and not a single
- 11:35Speaker 1: team is really interested for a good reason. That contract
- 11:37Speaker 1: is awful. So it ended up shifting to the point
- 11:41Speaker 1: where it was like, hmm, there's a trade to talk
- 11:44Speaker 1: where Kevin Durant ends up what the Golden State Warriors
- 11:47Speaker 1: and Jimmy Butler ends up with the Sons. What sense
- 11:50Speaker 1: does that make? So it leaves the Sons as a team.
- 11:53Speaker 1: We're we talking about standings wise for the Sons because
- 11:56Speaker 1: it has not been God watched them get their ass
- 11:57Speaker 1: buzzed by the Trailblazers twice this week. So they're sitting
- 12:01Speaker 1: at one game above five hundred. You have to really
- 12:05Speaker 1: question what is the overall outcome or the overall goal
- 12:09Speaker 1: of this roster. I think the good thing is for
- 12:11Speaker 1: the Phinis Sun's perspective is that you don't have to
- 12:14Speaker 1: make the decision before Thursday two o'clock Central. Right, you
- 12:18Speaker 1: don't have to trade Kevin Durant this week, but you
- 12:22Speaker 1: have to now start thinking, man, this was on a
- 12:26Speaker 1: quivoc Clyft failure. We're two games over five hundred with
- 12:29Speaker 1: this big three that we created with no future assets.
- 12:31Speaker 1: We might have to go the other direction. And they
- 12:34Speaker 1: still do have new owner syndrome. So I don't know
- 12:36Speaker 1: if Matt Ishpiel will ever be like yup, y'all, absolutely right,
- 12:38Speaker 1: Let's trade Kevin Urrant to the Houston Rockets, get all
- 12:41Speaker 1: of our picks back, and then we can start to
- 12:44Speaker 1: rebuild a round book. Because that was also a report
- 12:47Speaker 1: that they were taking calls right, they were taking calls
- 12:50Speaker 1: on Katie that the only person that was safe on
- 12:52Speaker 1: the roster was Devin himself. So I don't know if
- 12:55Speaker 1: this means for them. Maybe they even try to pivot,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but I don't think there's any other bigger names available
- 12:59Speaker 1: with that. I didn't expect Anthony Davis and Lucadna get
- 13:02Speaker 1: traded for each other, So nobody knows what the hell
- 13:04Speaker 1: is going on. I just I hope they trade for
- 13:07Speaker 1: Zusavitch and not the Sounds. I'm back on the wars
- 13:08Speaker 1: I hope this is the Warriors trade for Usavitz because, uh,
- 13:12Speaker 1: he fits a timeline. He's got the same amount of
- 13:13Speaker 1: years level his contract. He's about thirty something years old.
- 13:16Speaker 1: It's like the rest of the guys on the team
- 13:17Speaker 1: go get Woods, all right. I don't know if I
- 13:20Speaker 1: overall grades. Y'all leave me in the convers section.