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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Chinse Billionaires & U.S. Babies · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: Now it's time to go to our tech guy.
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  Speaker 3: Rich Dumurrow, heard every Saturday here on KFI eleven am
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  Speaker 3: to two pm.
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  Speaker 2: Rich on Tech. He's on kt LA every day.
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  Speaker 3: His instagram is at rich on Tech website, rich on
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  Speaker 3: Tech dot TV.
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  Speaker 2: And good morning Rich.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 2: Bill.
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  Speaker 3: There you are, okay, a few things to talk about,
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  Speaker 3: uh and uh that's uh. We'll talk about that later,
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 2: And that one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, this one, Okay, you don't know which one I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about, fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: That's radio humor. You know that, rich, don't you?
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  Speaker 3: I do not, Okay, I just I just wanted I
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  Speaker 3: just wanted to point that out. Uh. First one I
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about is Rumba. Rumba filing for bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 3: But wait a minute, isn't Rumba became the generic name
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  Speaker 3: for those auto vacuums. It was like Kleenex or Xerox.
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  Speaker 3: How does a company that is the name of the
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  Speaker 3: product go into bankru.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's a warning to anyone who gets
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  Speaker 1: comfortable in their industry, no matter what role you're in,
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  Speaker 1: whether you are making robot vacuums or just in general,
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  Speaker 1: you always.
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  Speaker 2: Have to stay ahead.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened to Robot I Robot,
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  Speaker 1: the makers of Rumba. You know, remember they were the
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  Speaker 1: first robot vacuum cleaner, and it you know, they're very
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  Speaker 1: expensive at the beginning. They came down in price, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they ever got to a place where
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  Speaker 1: they were truly affordable for a lot of people, even
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  Speaker 1: though they sold a bunch of them, but the reality
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  Speaker 1: is this company tried to stay ahead. But I remember
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  Speaker 1: getting this robot, you know, this this vacuum robot, and
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  Speaker 1: it didn't even work that well. And we're talking ten,
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  Speaker 1: you know, years into Roombus, and so that's when I knew, uh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this company has a problem. And I remember Amazon tried
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  Speaker 1: to buy them for like two billion dollars and regulators
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  Speaker 1: in the US said no, And so that I think
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  Speaker 1: was the turning point for this company. And once that
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  Speaker 1: money did not come through, that was the big issue
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  Speaker 1: because during that time, we saw at every CS, we
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  Speaker 1: saw all these Chinese competitors come up with new products
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  Speaker 1: that were better and cheaper. Robo Rock that's one that
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  Speaker 1: I am always recommending. Eco vax is another one. There
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  Speaker 1: are so many brands out there that are making robotic
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  Speaker 1: vacuums that do a better job, and especially the one
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  Speaker 1: that I really like, the mop and vacuum one. That
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  Speaker 1: one is just incredible from robo Rock. And so now
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  Speaker 1: we see them in a place where they cannot compete.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have the funding anymore, they don't have the money,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have the Amazon name, and now they're bankrupt
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  Speaker 1: and it's kind of sad.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, And I had one years ago and it
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  Speaker 3: was supposed to miss obviously whatever sensor device go around
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  Speaker 3: furniture or do something with carpets, and you're right, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't work very well.
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  Speaker 2: And I never tried the other ones.
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  Speaker 3: I just, you know, I just went back to what
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  Speaker 3: people normally did before, those things that are called cleaning ladies,
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  Speaker 3: and those seemed.
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  Speaker 2: To be worked.
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  Speaker 3: That seemed to work out a little bit better, more expensive,
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  Speaker 3: mind you, than a robo vacuum cleaner.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have one at home? By the way, do
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  Speaker 2: you do you use one of these things, a cleaning
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  Speaker 2: lady or a robot either one. Let's talk about the robot.
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  Speaker 1: We do well we had when I actually tossed it
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  Speaker 1: in the trash because it just didn't work. I same
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  Speaker 1: thing as you. It's like I had this thing for testing,
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  Speaker 1: and every time I used it, it would become more
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  Speaker 1: effort to actually use the robotic vacuum than to just
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  Speaker 1: vacuum the floor or sweep it up, because you had
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  Speaker 1: to move things around, You had to hide anything that
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  Speaker 1: was on the floor that it might you know, suck
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  Speaker 1: up or try to get stuck on or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: so it just became such a pain that I was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, And then I tried the mapping feature where
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  Speaker 1: it can map your different rooms. The idea Bill of
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  Speaker 1: these robotic vacuums, and I'm sure there's some people listening
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  Speaker 1: that are like, Rich, You're totally wrong. Like I love
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  Speaker 1: my robe botic vacuum. I turn it on every day. Great,
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  Speaker 1: I hope they work. But what we want these things
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  Speaker 1: to do is, you know, the ideal scenario would be
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  Speaker 1: you leave the house, you turn on the alarm, and
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  Speaker 1: what happens, Oh, the robot goes, Okay, they're gone, let
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  Speaker 1: me go to work and clean this floor by the
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  Speaker 1: time they get back here. And some of them, yes,
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  Speaker 1: can do that, but I never really got to the
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  Speaker 1: point where it was that automated and that much of
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  Speaker 1: a benefit to me. So again I dropped it. And
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  Speaker 1: now I've got this robo rock that I can't speak
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  Speaker 1: highly enough. It is manual, but the thing mops and
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  Speaker 1: vacuums the floor and it does a fantastic job. You
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  Speaker 1: just have to remember Bill to clean it out after
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  Speaker 1: every time. Otherwise you do not want to smell that
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  Speaker 1: water it is It'll kill you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you say it's manual. That's the only part
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  Speaker 3: this manual. Correct, the rest of it is robotic nor
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  Speaker 3: the regular vacuum. No, this is a regular vacuum cleaner,
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  Speaker 3: but it's a mop at the same time. And that's
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  Speaker 3: the new get it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm misunderstood a trend with the robots as well.
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  Speaker 1: They're all doing the mopping and the the vacuuming at
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  Speaker 1: the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, All right, Rich, we do this every year.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you do this every year on all of
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  Speaker 3: your platforms.
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  Speaker 2: And that are.
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  Speaker 3: That is the discussion of the tech gifts, and we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk a little bit. Ask you to describe
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  Speaker 3: the top ten gifts that should be on everyone's list
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  Speaker 3: this year. Let's go through them if we can all
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  Speaker 3: of them, and a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of them are Yeah, what number ten? Number ten
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  Speaker 1: is the Apple air tag been around for a while,
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  Speaker 1: but people still love it to keep track of everything.
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  Speaker 1: Easy stocking stuff For Android users, I would recommend the
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  Speaker 1: Chippolo pop that'll work with Google phones. And then if
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  Speaker 1: you have a mixed kind of a bag of Android
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  Speaker 1: and iPhone in your family, checkout tile that.
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  Speaker 2: Works with both.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to go to number nine.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's do them as quickly as we can. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: because we have to go all the way down to
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  Speaker 3: number one.
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  Speaker 1: Number nine VR headset, So you know, Apple Vision Pro
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  Speaker 1: is amazing, but to to expense, Metaquest is hitting the
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  Speaker 1: sweet spot. They just added Disney Plus today so you
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  Speaker 1: can watch all those movies in a VR headset. So
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  Speaker 1: that is a great thing. People love that. Number eight
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  Speaker 1: is an Apple product again, the Apple Watch any of them,
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  Speaker 1: Series three, Series eleven, sorry, the se three, the Series eleven,
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  Speaker 1: the Ultra three. They were all updated this year. Better health,
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  Speaker 1: better sleep tracking, faster charging, So those are going to
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  Speaker 1: be a great gift.
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  Speaker 2: People always love those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking I bought one early days and it
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  Speaker 3: was just too complicated for me, and I'm looking at
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  Speaker 3: it again because it's either easier to use or I
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  Speaker 3: have a wife that's convinced I need it when I
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  Speaker 3: have a heart attack.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm running.
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  Speaker 1: So you tell me that is a good reason I would.
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  Speaker 1: I love mine for running and mostly for the safety
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  Speaker 1: and security of it. Yes, if you're out in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of nowhere running and something happens, you can call
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  Speaker 1: nine one one if you get you know, the cellular
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  Speaker 1: version Number seven noise canceling headphones. There are so many
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  Speaker 1: out there. These are a must have if you travel.
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  Speaker 1: The Sony wh I a silly name. Wh one thousand
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  Speaker 1: x fives their last year's model, but they're still among
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  Speaker 1: the best for the value. They have a new version
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  Speaker 1: that are even better, but the old version you save
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  Speaker 1: money and they're just as good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I bought the bows and three hundred dollars is
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  Speaker 3: what they cost.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there were a fortune.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but the good news is my bows last for
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  Speaker 1: a good They almost lasted for ten years, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: So you know you got to do the math. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they're very expensive upfront, but if you travel a lot,
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  Speaker 1: they do pay for themselves over time. Number six the Kindle.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone loves a Kindle e ink I think is much
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  Speaker 1: easier on the eyes than the tablet. Now they have
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  Speaker 1: them in color. I've been testing the color one. It
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  Speaker 1: actually looks pretty good. I'm very impressed. Only get that
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  Speaker 1: if you read like graphic novels or you're like a
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  Speaker 1: third grader. Number five or a ring, So this is
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  Speaker 1: another thing your wife might want you to get. This
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  Speaker 1: is one of those activity trackers on your finger. So
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  Speaker 1: the Aura ring is very popular for sleep tracking. People
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  Speaker 1: love the readiness score it gives them. Just remember there
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  Speaker 1: is a monthly fee. I did see this bill at Costco,
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  Speaker 1: your favor, one of your favorite places, so they're selling
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  Speaker 1: them at a discount there.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like a mood ring. We're up to I
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  Speaker 3: think we're at number five. You remember the mood Remember
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  Speaker 3: the mood rings?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those were.
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  Speaker 1: Great if you if you get they give you a
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  Speaker 1: score every morning of how ready you are for the day.
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  Speaker 1: So if you get a bad score, like a seventy
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  Speaker 1: or a fifty, you are in a bad mood. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is kind of like a mood ring. Number four.
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  Speaker 1: Smart glasses. We've talked about these a lot this year,
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  Speaker 1: the meta ray bands. They are pretty much the top
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  Speaker 1: smart glasses to beat.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I run with my Apple Watch and then these so
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  Speaker 1: I have a camera so I can take a picture
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  Speaker 1: in case someone does something crazy or you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just see something interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So so what is Tell me what those do? So
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  Speaker 2: basically they are glasses.
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  Speaker 1: They're like meta ray band or they're sorry, they're rayband
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  Speaker 1: sunglasses or regular glasses with a built in camera, built
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  Speaker 1: in microphone so you can take calls, listen to music.
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  Speaker 1: You can also add AI so you can take photos.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many things you can do.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like a little computer on your.
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  Speaker 3: Face and the speaker is in the ipiece part of
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  Speaker 3: it that goes over your ear.
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  Speaker 2: Do I have that right or do you have to
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  Speaker 2: stick something in that ear? No?
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  Speaker 1: Which is great because that means when you're running like me,
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  Speaker 1: you can actually hear what's going on around you. You're
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  Speaker 1: not completely closed off from the outside world. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what I really like about those.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, number three AirPods.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't really need to explain those, but
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  Speaker 1: they came out with two new versions this year, AirPods
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  Speaker 1: four entry level AirPods Pro three is the best noise canceling.
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  Speaker 1: Number two the Aura Digital Photo Frame. This thing is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I've never met someone that doesn't like this. Basically, you
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  Speaker 1: can send photos from your phone to this digital frame.
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  Speaker 1: And now they just added text messaging as well, so
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  Speaker 1: that makes life a lot easier. Get this for a
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  Speaker 1: family member and you can, like Grandma or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: you can text photos right to her picture frame and
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  Speaker 1: you're ready for Number one. Absolutely, Nintendo switch to number one.
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  Speaker 1: This is the latest version of the handheld gaming system.
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  Speaker 1: It also connects to a TV. It's got better controllers,
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  Speaker 1: got tons of games you can play. It's easy to
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  Speaker 1: find this year, which is nice. Go with a bundle
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  Speaker 1: if you want the best deal. But I've posted all
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  Speaker 1: of these to my Instagram at rich on Tech, so
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  Speaker 1: if you want to see those, they're all there.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, rich, how many of these that you test turn
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  Speaker 3: into your own personal device that you would go out
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  Speaker 3: and buy on your own and not even bother with
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  Speaker 3: telling people about them or doing reviews.
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  Speaker 1: I would say it's very rare. It takes a lot
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  Speaker 1: to get into my mix.
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  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: But I will tell you out of this list, minus
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  Speaker 1: the VR headset, minus the Aura ring, that's basically it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm using pretty much all of these gadgets, so I
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  Speaker 1: really like them. Some of them I'm using more than others,
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  Speaker 1: Like the Nintendo Switch is great. They've had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of games I've played. But again, you know, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many gadgets that come out it takes a lot for
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  Speaker 1: me to say, Okay, I love this and I want
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  Speaker 1: to use this forever.
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  Speaker 2: Got it? Okay, Rich?
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, We'll catch you over the weekend on Saturday, I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure you're going to continue on with gizmo's and gadgets
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  Speaker 3: to buy for the holidays and stocking stuffers.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, really quickly.
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  Speaker 3: You can follow Rich on Instagram at rich on tech website,
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  Speaker 3: rich on tech dot tv every Saturday here eleven am
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  Speaker 3: to two pm, and on KTLA every day.
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  Speaker 2: Rich you have a good one. We'll talk again YouTube Bill.
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  Speaker 3: All right, dog, Now there's a story I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: share with you, and this is what Anne brings to
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  Speaker 3: the table because this is my wheelhouse, and it's a
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  Speaker 3: story of Chinese billionaires having kids here in the United
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  Speaker 3: States surrogacy, Okay, I mean I've been dealing with wealthy
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  Speaker 3: Chinese people from the day I started surrogate parenting in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty and I've got a great story I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to share with you probably the next segment of personal
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  Speaker 3: story about a Chinese billionaire.
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  Speaker 2: But here is the difference. While Chinese wealthy.
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  Speaker 3: Chinese have come over four years, I mean certainly in
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  Speaker 3: my world, and I was one of the first ones
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  Speaker 3: out of the gate since nineteen eighty. As I said,
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  Speaker 3: they have children here for all kinds of reasons. The
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  Speaker 3: main one is to have a child be a US citizen.
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  Speaker 3: And this is at a time when people in communist China,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the way it was known in those days China. Now,
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  Speaker 3: people who were able to mask money wanted to have
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  Speaker 3: some kind of safeguards, some kind of a safety net
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  Speaker 3: for their kids, and having an American passport was the
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  Speaker 3: end all be all in those.
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  Speaker 2: Days and still is to a great extent.
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  Speaker 3: So these Chinese billionaires and other wealthy Chinese necessarily billionaires,
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  Speaker 3: would come over and hire a surrogate mother. And since
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  Speaker 3: I was practicing surrogacy law, I was the attorney and
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  Speaker 3: I would put all of that together. And so I
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  Speaker 3: went on my merry way and everything was fine, there
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  Speaker 3: was no issue. We'd have the Chinese couple come over
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  Speaker 3: and meet the surrogate and I'll tell you about the
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  Speaker 3: first time out or one of my early early Chinese clients.
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  Speaker 3: But here's what's going on. This happened in a closed
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  Speaker 3: LA courtroom. The clerks were working for this family court
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  Speaker 3: judge Amy Pelman, and they were looking at surrogacy petitions,
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  Speaker 3: which are all over the place, and then they saw
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  Speaker 3: one name over and over again. Wait a minute, there
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  Speaker 3: was a Chinese billionaire seeking perennial lights to at least
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  Speaker 3: four kids, and then additional research showed that he already
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  Speaker 3: had fathered or was in the process of fathering at least.
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  Speaker 2: Eight more, all through surrogate mothers.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the judge called the father, Zubo, in for a hearing.
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  Speaker 2: He never even got into the courtroom.
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  Speaker 3: He lived in China, appeared via video, speaking through an interpreter.
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  Speaker 3: He said he hoped to have twenty or so US
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  Speaker 3: born kids through surrogacy and boys, because that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: This uses IVF technology, which means you can delineate the
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  Speaker 3: sex of a child. And he said, because boys are
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  Speaker 3: superior to girls, and he wanted a boy to take
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  Speaker 3: over his business. And some of the kids were being
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  Speaker 3: raised by nanny's and irvine awaiting paperwork to travel to China.
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  Speaker 3: He hadn't even met them yet because he had been
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  Speaker 3: so busy. Well, the judge denied his request for parentage
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  Speaker 3: because you need a court order, because remember, a surrogate
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  Speaker 3: mother is carrying the child someone other than a spouse,
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  Speaker 3: and normally this happens almost instantly. The judge said, oh no, nope, nope, nope,
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  Speaker 3: And here's why I mean the judge can just say
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  Speaker 3: no and they can shop another judge.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever. There's a family court judge.
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  Speaker 3: But surrogacy is still largely unregulated throughout the United States,
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  Speaker 3: even though it is highly regulated here in California. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm very proud of having me in responsible for the
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  Speaker 3: court cases and the laws that have been passed, so
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  Speaker 3: it gives tremendous protection. You know, the number of kids
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  Speaker 3: you can have is is absolutely not established in law.
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  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I don't think it can be.
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  Speaker 3: How does the state say you can't have more than
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  Speaker 3: X number of kids?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? This is China.
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  Speaker 3: So what happens is these Chinese billionaires and elites are
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  Speaker 3: going outside of the US, usually outside of China, usually
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  Speaker 3: in the US, and having kids, and not just one
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  Speaker 3: or two kids, but half a dozen kids simultaneously.
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  Speaker 2: And I've had, as.
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  Speaker 3: I said, Chinese families come over, Chinese business people and
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  Speaker 3: they wanted more than one surrogate, and I said, you're dreaming.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you two or three or
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  Speaker 3: help you with two or three surrogates. That's not the
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  Speaker 3: way I run my practice. It's just not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: So this has become a thing and a big thing,
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  Speaker 3: and it's now being reported where these incredibly wealthy Chinese
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  Speaker 3: men and their spouses by the way they are because
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  Speaker 3: they're all married, are creating children via surrogacy. And technology
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  Speaker 3: is there where they never even have to enter the
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  Speaker 3: United States or even pick up their kids. They can
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  Speaker 3: all be delivered. It's babies via FedEx. That's what the
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  Speaker 3: nation'd name is a surrogacy agency. Authorities are discovering that
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  Speaker 3: these Chinese billionaires are having kids via surrogate mothers here
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  Speaker 3: in the States. Well, it's been going on for forty years,
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  Speaker 3: except this having lots and lots of kids, in some
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  Speaker 3: cases over twenty kids for one guy. Totally unregulated and
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  Speaker 3: in reality there's I don't know if there's any way
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  Speaker 3: to stop them. Certainly you've got an issue with I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how many kids can someone have before the state says no,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. Probably in terms of surrogacy, there can be
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  Speaker 3: some controls. But this has been going on for a
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  Speaker 3: long time. So here's my personal story.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it was.
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  Speaker 3: In the early eighties. I've been doing practicing surrogate parenting.
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  Speaker 3: That was my specialty is third party, third party reproductive
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  Speaker 3: law surrogacy in particular, and I had as a client
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  Speaker 3: a Chinese billionaire who I had never seen one before.
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  Speaker 3: Will call him. I don't want to give names, so
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  Speaker 3: we'll call him Schmooley, which by the way, is not
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  Speaker 3: his real name. I just want to let you know.
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  Speaker 3: So Schmooley and his wife come to me and they
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  Speaker 3: want a child because his wife was infertile and they
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  Speaker 3: needed a kid because Chinese people need children, and as
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  Speaker 3: many people do. So they come in and we're having
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  Speaker 3: a consultation. And I had never met a billionaire before
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  Speaker 3: in my life. So he excuses himself and goes into
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  Speaker 3: the restroom and I follow him p before and so
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  Speaker 3: he finishes up, and he said, okay, now what I go. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: you do it the same way all the rest of
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  Speaker 3: us do it, don't you? And he said, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 3: I had developed a pretty close relationship clearly on. But
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: just to give you a story, and this has very
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: little to do with the Chinese billionaires doing this and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: more and more of them. It was a personal story
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  Speaker 3: because in my practice in those days, I introduced parents
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  Speaker 3: to the surrogate mothers, and so some cases that was
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: it and the next time they met the surrogate mother
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  Speaker 3: was at the birth of the child, and sometimes they
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  Speaker 3: connected and talked and spoke throughout the pregnancy, and our
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: psychologists helped to help them to determine which way to go.
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  Speaker 3: And in this case, the our psychologist said, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: you've met her.
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  Speaker 2: You think she's great.
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  Speaker 3: The match is fine, and let's keep the let's keep
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  Speaker 3: the connections sort of to a minimum because of the
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: language and culture differences. Okay, So I called a surrogate
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  Speaker 3: one day, middle of summer, and I asked her how
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  Speaker 3: she's doing, and she said she lived in a riverside
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and she said, it's fine, but it's so hot here.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: They didn't have air conditioning. They had bought a house
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: without air conditioning. It was one of the new tracks
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that were coming up there, and it was inexpensive. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: then you finish everything up later, and she was complaining
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: about how hot it was. I go, yeah, I know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: welcome southern California. A couple of days later her I
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: get a phone call from her, and she is an
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  Speaker 3: utter panic because an air conditioning crew shows up and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: starts putting an air conditioning system in her house that
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: she hadn't ordered. And she called me in a panic,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and I said, let me, let me find out.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: So it turned out that Schmoolly not his real name,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Chinese billionaire. And I don't know how he is able
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: to pull this off because he didn't have her address.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: He was able to somehow find out where she lived,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: have an air conditioning company, probably in one of the
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: biggest hot spells you can imagine, show up the day
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: after he contacts them, shows up the day after I
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: share the fact that she was hot with him that
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: she was it was just too hot and they were
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: having a sweltering time. Was able to pull all that together,
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  Speaker 3: and I go, that's what billionaires can do.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 3: I was stunned at how what billionaires can pull off.
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  Speaker 3: And ever since then, I've been super impressed with Chinese billionaires.
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  Speaker 2: Now in terms of the number of children that.
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  Speaker 3: These billionaires are creating, and this story is about sometimes
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: a dozen or more using a dozen or more surrogates.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I had that request where a very wealthy man, generally Chinese,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: would come in and say I want lots of kids,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and I want to hire three or four or six surrogates,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: and I would say, no, it's just not the way
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I do business, and one of the reasons I got
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: out of the surrogacy business is because, frankly, the stuff
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that was going on was just it just wasn't for me.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: It wasn't my model, it wasn't the way I did it,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and it was just I'm glad I did And here
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I am making a complete ass out of myself.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And helping you understand the world.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do some more understanding of the world tomorrow morning,
• 23:09
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• 23:14
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