Latest / Investor Exchange / NetLink NBN FY25 Financial Results and Outlook
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange Podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome to the Deep Dive. This is where we grab a pile of source material,
- 0:11could be anything, reports, filings, research, and really get into it,
- 0:15pulling out the key insights just for you.
- 0:17Think of us as your shortcut to getting up to speed. Today, we're zeroing in
- 0:22on Metlink NBN Trust, specifically their financial results for the fiscal year
- 0:26that ended March 31st, 2025. So they're FY25.
- 0:29We've got the official results announcement, their slide deck,
- 0:32and the news release that went with it.
- 0:34And our mission, based only on what's in these documents, is to really unpack
- 0:37how they perform financially in FY25, get a grip on why the numbers are what
- 0:41they are, and see what they're signaling about the future.
- 0:44So what does this actually mean for you? Let's find out.
- 0:46Okay, where do we start? Right. Well, let's start with the headline figures,
- 0:49comparing FY25 to the year before, FY24.
- 0:52Looking at the summaries they provided, we see things dipped slightly across
- 0:55the board. Revenue for the full year came in at $407 million.
- 0:58That's down 1.0% from $411.3 million in FY24. Okay, small debt.
- 1:06Yeah. And similarly, EBITDA, that's earnings before interest,
- 1:10taxes, depreciation, and amortization also slipped a bit, down 1.5% to $288.1 million.
- 1:17Profit after tax, or PAT, saw a more noticeable drop, 7.6% lower,
- 1:23landing at $95.4 million compared to over $103 million last year.
- 1:28And the EBITDA margin tightened just a fraction from 71.1% down to 70.8%.
- 1:33Okay, so slight decreases in revenue and operating earnings,
- 1:36but a bit more of a pinch on the final profit line.
- 1:39Not huge drops, but definitely down. Now, the really interesting part.
- 1:43Why? What drove these changes? Financials always have a story behind them,
- 1:47don't they? They really do. And the documents actually give us a pretty clear picture.
- 1:50The main thing dragging down that overall revenue number wasn't actually their
- 1:54core business connecting homes and businesses.
- 1:56It was lower ancillary project revenue. Ah, the extra projects.
- 1:59Exactly. That dropped by $6.2 million year on year.
- 2:03They put this down to just fewer project work orders compared to FY24.
- 2:06And they do note these kinds of opportunities can fluctuate quite a bit.
- 2:09Okay, so less of the non-recurring stuff. What about the main connections business
- 2:13then? Well, that connections revenue, the monthly recurring charges did dip
- 2:16slightly, too, by about $1.5 million.
- 2:19But, and this is key, it wasn't because they lost customers.
- 2:22It was because the price per connection,
- 2:25the MRC, was reduced following a review by the regulator, IMDA.
- 2:30Right. The regulated price changed. Yes, but they explicitly state that the
- 2:33impact of that lower price was, and I quote, largely offset by the growth in connection numbers.
- 2:39So basically, they connected more customers, which almost entirely made up for
- 2:43the lower price per customer.
- 2:44The core business volume grew. Got it. So more customers helped stabilize that
- 2:49core revenue stream despite the price pressure.
- 2:51Precisely. And there were a few other positive bits helping out, too.
- 2:55Co-location revenue was up more demand for rack space. Central office revenue
- 2:59increased, which they linked to recovering more maintenance costs.
- 3:02And installation-related revenue also grew, mostly from more residential signups
- 3:06again, that growth, and also things like cancellation charges. Hmm.
- 3:09Okay. So it paints a picture. The core recurring business, while facing a price
- 3:15cut, held up due to growth and connections.
- 3:17But the drop in the more volatile project work pulled the overall revenue figure down.
- 3:24That distinction feels important. Now, what about the profit side,
- 3:27EBITDA and PAT falling? How did costs factor in?
- 3:31Right. So the EBITDA decrease was partly due to that lower revenue,
- 3:34as we just discussed, but it was also hit by lower non-operating income, basically.
- 3:38They had a one-off gain from selling an asset in FY24 that didn't repeat this
- 3:43year and overall higher operating expenses.
- 3:46OK, let's unpack those expenses a bit. Sure. A few key ones stand out.
- 3:50Operations and maintenance costs went up by $6.7 million.
- 3:54Now, a big chunk of that increase, $6.2 million, according to the notes,
- 3:58is because FY24's costs were artificially lowered by a one-off reversal related
- 4:03to settling a power charges dispute.
- 4:05Ah, so last year had a kind of credit that didn't happen this year? Exactly.
- 4:08So if you take that out, the underlying O&M costs were actually,
- 4:11they say, broadly stable. It's more of a comparison effect. Right, okay. What else moved?
- 4:15Installation costs. They increased by $4.3 million.
- 4:18And this ties directly back to that growth in connections we talked about.
- 4:22More residential orders mean more installation work, which costs more.
- 4:27Makes sense. A cost of growth, essentially. Yes.
- 4:30Then there's depreciation and amortization, up $4.6 million.
- 4:34That's pretty standard stuff when a company is investing heavily in its network assets.
- 4:39As they build more fiber, those new assets get added and you start depreciating them.
- 4:43Standard infrastructure investment consequence. Correct.
- 4:47Finance costs also ticked up slightly by $0.8 million.
- 4:51Interestingly, their average interest rate was actually a tiny bit lower,
- 4:552.72% versus 2.75%, but they took on quite a bit of new debt during the year,
- 5:01drawing down $91 million in bank loans.
- 5:04Ah, so more borrowing overall meant higher interest payments,
- 5:06even with a slightly better rate. That seems to be the main driver, yes.
- 5:09Now, some costs did go down. Ancillary project direct costs fell by $6.8 million,
- 5:15which you'd expect given the lower ancillary revenue.
- 5:18Less work, less direct costs associated with it. Staff costs also decreased by $1.9 million.
- 5:25This was mainly because they capitalized more of their labor costs,
- 5:29meaning more of the cost of staff working on building or upgrading the network
- 5:33was treated as an investment added to the asset value on the balance sheet rather
- 5:36than hitting the profit and loss as an operating expense immediately.
- 5:40Even if gross salaries went up, this accounting treatment lowered the reported staff expense.
- 5:46Okay, shifting costs from OPEX to CAPEX, effectively. In accounting terms, yes.
- 5:51And finally, other operating expenses dropped by $4.2 million,
- 5:55mostly because they wrote off fewer old decommissioned network assets this year
- 6:00compared to last year. Wow.
- 6:02Okay. So that 7.6% drop in the bottom line, the profit after tax,
- 6:06it really boils down to that slightly lower EBITDA combined with the higher
- 6:10depreciation from building out the network and those increased finance costs from the new loans.
- 6:16The slightly higher tax credit helped a bit, but not enough to offset the rest.
- 6:20That's the picture painted by the numbers, yes.
- 6:22It's a mix of operational factors, investment impacts, and financing changes.
- 6:26It really highlights how many levers are moving simultaneously.
- 6:28It's not just revenue down, profit down. It's much more nuanced.
- 6:32Absolutely. And you see these flows reflected in the cash movements,
- 6:35too, though we don't need to go super deep there.
- 6:38Cash from operations was down a bit, partly higher taxes.
- 6:41Cash used in investing was up significantly. That's the network build out and
- 6:45a new central office they mentioned.
- 6:46They flagged future capital commitments to about 78 million dollars for physical
- 6:52assets and 18 million dollars for intangibles like software tied to network
- 6:57expansion and smart nation projects.
- 6:58So definitely still investing heavily. Yes.
- 7:01And cash used in financing actually decreased because the new loan drawdown
- 7:05was larger than the increase in distributions paid out.
- 7:08Balance sheet-wise, assets dipped slightly due to depreciation and some financial
- 7:13instrument value changes, while liabilities rose mainly because of those new loans.
- 7:17Unit holders' funds decreased mostly due to distributions paid.
- 7:21Okay, now you mentioned distributions.
- 7:23For many people looking at net length, that's a critical piece.
- 7:25How did all this financial performance translate into what they actually paid out to unit holders?
- 7:30Because profit and distributable cash aren't always the same thing, especially for trusts.
- 7:36That's a crucial distinction. And here, despite the dip in accounting profit,
- 7:40the story is different. Their policy is clear.
- 7:43Distribute 100% of cash available for distribution, or CFBS,
- 7:47twice a year. And for FY25?
- 7:49For FY25, the total amount they attributed for distribution actually rose slightly.
- 7:54It was $208.9 million, which is up 1.2% from the $206.5 million in FY24.
- 8:01Ah, so distributions went up. Yes, slightly. And this meant the distribution
- 8:05per unit, the DPU, also increased by 1.1%, coming in at 5.36 Singapore cents
- 8:10for the year, up from 5.30 cents in FY24.
- 8:13That's really interesting. Profit down, but distribution per unit up.
- 8:16Exactly. And they make a point of highlighting this steady DPU growth every
- 8:20year since their IPO back in 2017.
- 8:23They also mentioned they've returned $1.5 billion to uniholders since then.
- 8:27The final payout for FY25, the second half distribution, is 2.68 cents per unit,
- 8:33payable on June 11th. Okay, that's a key takeaway then.
- 8:36The underlying cash generation, which is what really funds distributions for
- 8:40a structure like this, remains strong enough to support a small increase in
- 8:44the payout, despite the headline profit dip.
- 8:47That stability and slight growth in DPU is probably very important for many listeners.
- 8:51Right. So that's the look back at FY25. What about looking forward?
- 8:55What does the outlook section tell us? Well, they start by acknowledging the
- 8:58choppy waters, the volatile global political and economic scene.
- 9:02Trade tensions, geopolitical risks.
- 9:05Closer home in Singapore, they see signs of interest rates and inflation easing,
- 9:09but they still flag risks to economic growth.
- 9:11Standard cautious view of the macro environment, pretty much.
- 9:14But then they pivot to their own situation. They really emphasize the resilience
- 9:19they get from their business model, specifically the regulated price certainty
- 9:23under the revised ICO framework.
- 9:26They stress this gives them predictability for the next four years.
- 9:30Four years of price certainty, that's significant.
- 9:32It is. They present it as the bedrock for stable revenue and cash flow,
- 9:37helping them ride out those external uncertainties.
- 9:39They also talk up their strong balance sheet and disciplined capital management,
- 9:43saying they're well-placed to fund their operations and ongoing investments.
- 9:47And managing risks like interest rates. Yes, they specifically mention hedging.
- 9:52As of March 31st, they'd hedge just over 70% of their outstanding bank loans
- 9:57with interest rate swaps.
- 9:59This locks in the interest costs for a large portion of their debt,
- 10:02giving them more stability against future rate hikes.
- 10:05They even mention entering another $90 million fixed rate swap after the year
- 10:09end and securing more short-term funding facilities.
- 10:11Shows they're actively managing that financial risk. So, focusing on stability
- 10:16through regulation and hedging.
- 10:18What about growth or investment? Definitely investing. They talk about prudent
- 10:22investment to expand and enhance the fiber network, driven by demand across
- 10:26all segments, residential, business, etc.
- 10:29The key link they make here is that this investment grows their regulated asset base, the RAB.
- 10:35Right, the pool of assets the regulator lets them earn a return on. Exactly.
- 10:39So growing the ROB is presented as fundamental to supporting long-term returns
- 10:44under their regulated model.
- 10:45They connect this investment directly to supporting Singapore's national digital
- 10:49goals, like the Smart Nation 2.0 initiative, and the government's plan for 10 GBP speeds by 2026.
- 10:56They mention working with government and industry partners on this.
- 10:59Positioning themselves as critical infrastructure for Singapore's future.
- 11:02That's clearly the message. Beyond the core network build-out,
- 11:06they also say they continue to explore other potential investment opportunities
- 11:09in related telecom or infrastructure businesses, provided they align with their
- 11:13strategy and risk appetite.
- 11:15So sticking to the knitting, but keeping an eye out for adjacent opportunities.
- 11:19Seems like it, the overall messages. Despite the challenging external environment,
- 11:23they're focused on operational excellence, supporting Singapore's digital ambitions,
- 11:27and crucially for unit holders maintaining sustainable distributions.
- 11:31Oh, and one other point, just for completeness, from the auditor's report section.
- 11:35They looked closely at goodwill impairment, basically checking if the value
- 11:38of past acquisitions on the books is still justified. The auditors confirmed
- 11:42management's assessment process, and assumptions were reasonable.
- 11:45It's another layer of financial validation. And just to circle back on that
- 11:49financial strength point that gives some credit metrics, net gearing at 28.3%,
- 11:53net debt to EBITDA at 2.4 times, and EBITDA covering interest payments 13.2 times over.
- 12:00These numbers suggest a pretty comfortable debt position.
- 12:03Right, so let's try and pull this all together. For FY25, the headline numbers
- 12:07dip slightly, mostly because of less vulnerable project work,
- 12:10while the core regulated connections business showed underlying strength growth
- 12:14in customer numbers, offsetting a regulated price cut.
- 12:17Costs were a mixed bag, influenced by things like comparison effects from last
- 12:21year, investment in growth, and new financing.
- 12:24But, crucially, the cash flow allowed them to edge up the distribution per unit,
- 12:29keeping that growth streak alive.
- 12:31That sums it up well. And looking ahead, they're really leaning into the stability
- 12:36offered by the regulated model,
- 12:37locking in pricing for four years, hedging interest rates, while continuing
- 12:41to invest significantly in expanding the network to support national digital
- 12:45plans and grow that all-important regulated asset base.
- 12:49They seem confident this positions them well, even with external uncertainties,
- 12:53while also looking for potential new growth avenues. Yeah, what's really interesting
- 12:57is that dynamic, isn't it?
- 12:58You've got this highly regulated, predictable core, but at the same time,
- 13:02technology doesn't stand still.
- 13:04So they have to constantly invest, manage capital carefully,
- 13:06and decide how to balance generating today's stable returns with building for
- 13:10tomorrow's demands. Absolutely.
- 13:12It's that classic infrastructure challenge being a reliable utility today,
- 13:16also being the foundation for future innovation. It really makes you think.
- 13:19So here's a thought to leave you with. Given that Netlink benefits from regulatory
- 13:23certainty, but also faces the constant pressure to upgrade for things like 10
- 13:27GBP speeds and smart nation goals,
- 13:30how do companies like this manage the potential conflict between maximizing
- 13:34returns under the current rules and making the potentially massive forward-looking
- 13:39investments needed for a radically different digital future.
- 13:42Where does that balance lie? Something to ponder.
- 13:45That brings us to the end of this deep dive into Netlink NPN Trust's FY25.
- 13:49Thanks so much for joining us.