Latest / QUESTION EVERYTHING / Angela Yee: What Is It Really Like to Be a Woman In The Music Industry? Celebrity Stories, Coworker Conflict + How To Make Your Voice Heard
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- 1:07Speaker 2: This is pretty smart. Angela Yee is the type of
- 1:12Speaker 2: person who can talk about anything from hip hop to investing, sex,
- 1:20Speaker 2: and relationships or celebrity gossip, and she does. She talks
- 1:24Speaker 2: about it all. The radio host an entrepreneur, has spent
- 1:28Speaker 2: years building her personal brand. She gained a huge following
- 1:32Speaker 2: by being the host of the syndicated radio show The
- 1:34Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Over the course of eleven years, Angela and
- 1:38Speaker 2: her co host Charlemagne God and DJ Envy have amassed
- 1:42Speaker 2: eight million listeners a month. In twenty twenty, they were
- 1:46Speaker 2: inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. Angela's also focused
- 1:50Speaker 2: on building a lasting legacy. The Brooklyn native has opened
- 1:54Speaker 2: a coffee shop an a juice bar in her beloved
- 1:56Speaker 2: New York neighborhood. And as you'll hear today, she's just
- 2:00Speaker 2: getting started. You get up early early, I'm sure that's
- 2:09Speaker 2: the first thing everybody chats with you about. Does four
- 2:12Speaker 2: am still hurt or like, what is the trick to
- 2:15Speaker 2: becoming an early person?
- 2:17Speaker 1: Coffee? No, four am still does hurt.
- 2:21Speaker 4: But the tricks are a you have got to get
- 2:24Speaker 4: more go to bed earlier. And that's like, whenever I
- 2:26Speaker 4: have a chance to go to bed at like nine o'clock,
- 2:29Speaker 4: ten o'clock, i am on it, you know, And even
- 2:32Speaker 4: at ten o'clock, that's still only six hours of sleep,
- 2:34Speaker 4: but still it really helps me a lot. And then, yes,
- 2:37Speaker 4: the coffee does help. I have my Las Pascialista coffee
- 2:41Speaker 4: maker down here, and before I leave for work, I
- 2:44Speaker 4: make myself some you know, a cocoa espresso, and I
- 2:49Speaker 4: put a little oat milk in it, and that is
- 2:52Speaker 4: it really does help me, Like for the whole day,
- 2:54Speaker 4: it works.
- 2:56Speaker 2: It's good. I'm with you too. I did a morning
- 2:58Speaker 2: show on TV in Chicago years ago. I don't know
- 3:01Speaker 2: how people do it without coffee. It's just not human.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So, as I was researching you, I realized that you're
- 3:09Speaker 2: from Brooklyn, but you're from Brooklyn, like it shaped you
- 3:15Speaker 2: in your mind? What part of you is Brooklyn? And
- 3:19Speaker 2: how did it shape who you are?
- 3:22Speaker 1: Brooklyn definitely gave me a lot of street smarts.
- 3:25Speaker 4: I feel like I make a lot of great decisions
- 3:27Speaker 4: and I have good intuition being from here. And then
- 3:31Speaker 4: I also feel like culturally Brooklyn exposes you to a
- 3:34Speaker 4: lot of things. I see a lot of people who
- 3:37Speaker 4: are not accepting people who are different than them, and
- 3:40Speaker 4: I feel like being from Brooklyn, I've seen it all
- 3:42Speaker 4: and so nothing shocks me. You know, how we are?
- 3:45Speaker 4: We see something like something might be crazy happening, and
- 3:47Speaker 4: we just walk past it like it's nothing.
- 3:50Speaker 1: And so I feel like it.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Also has made me very accepting all different kinds of people,
- 3:55Speaker 4: and it takes a lot for me to be shocked
- 3:58Speaker 4: of that.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Always these funny memes online of like New Yorkers on
- 4:03Speaker 2: the subway with something insane happening, like someone's taking their
- 4:06Speaker 2: clothes off and everybody's just like on their phone, doesn't care.
- 4:10Speaker 1: You. We're like, oh my god, stop right. There's this
- 4:13Speaker 1: Instagram page called sub Bay Creatures and it is the
- 4:15Speaker 1: funniest thing.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Yeah. So you started your career in the music business
- 4:20Speaker 2: with a job that any New Yorker around your age
- 4:23Speaker 2: would have dreamed of. You were working with Wu Tang Clan.
- 4:27Speaker 2: What did that first job teach you about the music industry?
- 4:30Speaker 1: A lot of things aren't what you would think it was.
- 4:32Speaker 4: When I first started working with them, I interned in college,
- 4:35Speaker 4: and I thought it would be really rowdy and dangerous
- 4:40Speaker 4: and the guys would be wild, and it was the
- 4:42Speaker 4: exact opposite. They were honestly like the nicest, most protective people,
- 4:46Speaker 4: and so I appreciated that, and then it also taught
- 4:50Speaker 4: me the value of having relationships, just having to deal
- 4:53Speaker 4: with so many different people at different labels, dealing with
- 4:56Speaker 4: people's family, to be really patient, and the importance of
- 4:59Speaker 4: being time because I would probably be the only person
- 5:03Speaker 4: that was on time every single day. But it really
- 5:07Speaker 4: did matter a lot and hard work because I stayed,
- 5:11Speaker 4: I would be the first person there and the last
- 5:12Speaker 4: person to leave all the time. It's just a good
- 5:15Speaker 4: work ethic to have. And I started that at a
- 5:16Speaker 4: really young age.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Did you have that from your parents or like, why
- 5:20Speaker 2: were you the first person to be there in the
- 5:22Speaker 2: last person to leave.
- 5:24Speaker 4: I've always had like this strong sense of responsibility. I
- 5:27Speaker 4: don't know where I get that from. It might be
- 5:29Speaker 4: my mom. My mom still to this day, works seven
- 5:32Speaker 4: days a week. She's always working, right, and so I
- 5:36Speaker 4: think I get that from her. Definitely not my dad.
- 5:39Speaker 2: So what does that mean?
- 5:41Speaker 4: Because my dad is like a slacker, so he's not
- 5:44Speaker 4: like that at all. But my mom is like, I
- 5:47Speaker 4: have to be at work, I have to do this,
- 5:48Speaker 4: I have to do that, And so she has two
- 5:51Speaker 4: jobs and she works, like I said, every day, And
- 5:54Speaker 4: my dad would be like my dad works for my uncle,
- 5:57Speaker 4: you know, running the dentist's office.
- 6:00Speaker 2: So you your career in radio started after you asked
- 6:03Speaker 2: for an interview hoping to get into marketing at serious
- 6:06Speaker 2: ExM Radio, and then they suggested that you auditioned a
- 6:09Speaker 2: co host a show, which is like crazy, Like that's
- 6:12Speaker 2: just like being plucked from oblivion, Like that doesn't happen
- 6:15Speaker 2: to anybody. What did that feel like? And did you
- 6:18Speaker 2: consider getting into radio before that?
- 6:21Speaker 4: You know, people used to always tell me I had
- 6:23Speaker 4: a unique voice, and so maybe voiceovers or something like that,
- 6:27Speaker 4: but I never thought I would be doing radio, and
- 6:30Speaker 4: so it is really strange and it is a blessing.
- 6:34Speaker 4: When I first got that job, people were so mad
- 6:37Speaker 4: because there were people that.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Felt like they deserved it.
- 6:41Speaker 4: There were people that I knew just from work that
- 6:44Speaker 4: were so upset and mad about it, and some people
- 6:47Speaker 4: were like, who dies she sleep with to get that?
- 6:50Speaker 4: But it was just having good relationships and having an opportunity.
- 6:54Speaker 4: And it wasn't like I got the job. I just
- 6:56Speaker 4: had the opportunity to audition, and then the choice was
- 7:00Speaker 4: not up to anyone other than the people as serious
- 7:04Speaker 4: about whether or not they would hire me.
- 7:06Speaker 1: And so I had the.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Opportunity to audition, and I think they gave me such
- 7:11Speaker 4: a long chance because they saw how hard I was working.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Again, you know, I would be even.
- 7:18Speaker 4: There, first person there, last person to leave, and so
- 7:21Speaker 4: they saw the time that I was putting in. And
- 7:22Speaker 4: I think that anybody can get good at anything if they.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Put the time into it.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I agree with you. People have like sort of natural
- 7:32Speaker 2: proclivities to certain things, but if you really dedicate yourself.
- 7:35Speaker 2: I believe the exact same thing. You said. You were
- 7:38Speaker 2: once fired for denying your boss sex.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So that was when I worked at Virgin Records,
- 7:45Speaker 4: and so my boss definitely we didn't have a lot
- 7:47Speaker 4: going on at the time. They had one artist signed
- 7:49Speaker 4: to the label and so they had like a boutique
- 7:52Speaker 4: label underneath Virgin. And so my boss called me in
- 7:56Speaker 4: and asked me if I would, you know, sleep with him.
- 7:59Speaker 1: That was what the meeting was about.
- 8:01Speaker 2: What I was your back up. How does somebody just
- 8:04Speaker 2: outright say, like the meeting was about if you would
- 8:07Speaker 2: sleep with him? What does he put that on the
- 8:09Speaker 2: zoom link?
- 8:10Speaker 4: Like, Oh, no, it wasn't in person. But you know,
- 8:14Speaker 4: I was really young at the time. I was like
- 8:16Speaker 4: twenty four years old or something like that, and so
- 8:19Speaker 4: I was definitely taken off guard, and of course I
- 8:22Speaker 4: would never have even thought about it.
- 8:25Speaker 1: But I mean my first reaction was.
- 8:28Speaker 4: I was repulsed by it, just because he's not somebody
- 8:32Speaker 4: I would ever even consider that with.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And so that was my first reaction.
- 8:37Speaker 4: And you know, I was saying this that I didn't
- 8:40Speaker 4: even think I had any power to do anything, and
- 8:43Speaker 4: so I just was like, Okay, I'm either going to
- 8:46Speaker 4: have to quit or I don't know what's going to happen.
- 8:48Speaker 1: So a couple of days later, I got fired.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Wow, and what did you do?
- 8:54Speaker 1: I got another job. That was it.
- 8:55Speaker 4: And I got another job. And they did try to
- 8:59Speaker 4: withhold my last paycheck. So they had told me they
- 9:02Speaker 4: were going to give me two weeks pay and then
- 9:05Speaker 4: they canceled the check after I picked it up, and
- 9:08Speaker 4: then I called and I said, I will assue you
- 9:11Speaker 4: if you don't give me back my money. And then
- 9:13Speaker 4: they were like okay, and they gave me another check.
- 9:16Speaker 4: But I didn't really know what to do. I just
- 9:18Speaker 4: said that and it worked.
- 9:20Speaker 2: That's a horrible and that experience.
- 9:23Speaker 4: It was, but I would say it would have been
- 9:25Speaker 4: a worse experience if something would have actually happened.
- 9:28Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, now that I look
- 9:31Speaker 1: back at it.
- 9:31Speaker 4: It could have been so much worse, being that there
- 9:34Speaker 4: were so many things that are happening to women in
- 9:36Speaker 4: this business, so me having to get propositioned, at least
- 9:40Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I had no options. I was
- 9:44Speaker 4: definitely brave enough at that time to just be reposed
- 9:47Speaker 4: to be like yuck. You know, I would never do that,
- 9:50Speaker 4: And I was able to get another job and not
- 9:53Speaker 4: have it affect me and not get black balls. And
- 9:55Speaker 4: so I feel like it could have turned out so
- 9:58Speaker 4: many different scenarios where it could have been worse.
- 10:00Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, God definitely have my back.
- 10:04Speaker 2: So when you say, like women deal with so much
- 10:07Speaker 2: in this industry, do you talk to other women about it? Like,
- 10:10Speaker 2: and do you mean radio or do you mean entertainment
- 10:12Speaker 2: in general?
- 10:13Speaker 4: I think any business, it doesn't even matter, you know,
- 10:16Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what line of work you're in. But
- 10:18Speaker 4: I'll say that in particular in radio, We've been having
- 10:22Speaker 4: a lot of conversations other women just things that have
- 10:24Speaker 4: happened to them, and it doesn't even have to be sexual,
- 10:27Speaker 4: but just not getting treated well is a thing.
- 10:30Speaker 1: And I feel like in a lot of.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Industries where women are outnumbered and don't have the power
- 10:35Speaker 4: and don't have the equity that men have. It is
- 10:37Speaker 4: hard for us to be heard and be seen and
- 10:41Speaker 4: be taken seriously and get promoted and get a raise,
- 10:45Speaker 4: and just all of those things are still difficult.
- 10:51Speaker 2: I was watching so many clips of you with your
- 10:54Speaker 2: co hosts Charlemagne and DJ Mvy, and in my mind,
- 10:59Speaker 2: you're the voice of reason on the show.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I'm the most rational one when
- 11:04Speaker 4: it comes to things. They're like all over the place,
- 11:07Speaker 4: and it's probably because I do so much research on
- 11:10Speaker 4: so many different things that it's probably been, like I
- 11:12Speaker 4: said from Brooklyn, like I always give people the benefit
- 11:16Speaker 4: of the doubt too, and so I tend to do
- 11:18Speaker 4: that in a lot of scenarios.
- 11:20Speaker 1: And I'm a very practical person. I'm a Capricorn, so
- 11:23Speaker 1: we're very practical. We're very hard working, we're loyal, we're practical.
- 11:27Speaker 4: And I do feel like all of those things are
- 11:29Speaker 4: who I am as a person.
- 11:30Speaker 1: But I can't take my emotions out of.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Something and look at it and say it from you know,
- 11:36Speaker 4: a very non judgmental, non emotional point of view.
- 11:40Speaker 2: What do you see your role as on the show.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Like if we were to say DJ Envy is what role,
- 11:46Speaker 2: Charlemagne's what role and what role are you?
- 11:48Speaker 4: Do you think I'm very empathetic to other people. I'm
- 11:52Speaker 4: the understanding one. I'm the one that is, like I said,
- 11:56Speaker 4: that does the research. I'm the one that is going
- 11:58Speaker 4: to make feel more comfort when you're in that space.
- 12:03Speaker 4: And I probably have like the little jabs that if
- 12:06Speaker 4: you can catch it, you catch it.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're like the if you know, you know
- 12:12Speaker 2: type of girl.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Right exactly, So if you can catch.
- 12:16Speaker 4: The little jokes and the you know and the little
- 12:19Speaker 4: shade here and there.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Then you catch it. I'm the responsible one. I'm the
- 12:23Speaker 1: first one there.
- 12:24Speaker 4: Again every day, I'm definitely the first one at work
- 12:27Speaker 4: every single day and usually the last one to leave.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Too good for you. That's very cool even to this day. Yeah,
- 12:35Speaker 2: so now you guys always get the celebrite. What about
- 12:41Speaker 2: the atmosphere at your show feeds that.
- 12:45Speaker 1: I think people come on the show wanting to reveal things.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Part of it is knowing the reach that the breakfast
- 12:50Speaker 1: club has, you know, cicate it in over one hundred
- 12:53Speaker 1: markets and then crazy YouTube numbers, so you know when
- 12:56Speaker 1: you come up there, you have to come up there
- 12:59Speaker 1: ready to talk, and you want to say whatever you
- 13:01Speaker 1: want to say. If there's something that you want to
- 13:03Speaker 1: put out, that's the space to do it. So I
- 13:06Speaker 1: think people are aware of that.
- 13:07Speaker 4: So when they have something they want to get off
- 13:09Speaker 4: their tests or they have an announcement or anything, that's
- 13:13Speaker 4: the place to do it. And then I feel like
- 13:15Speaker 4: as individuals, we all have our own relationships with people,
- 13:18Speaker 4: and so we have a little bit of an inside
- 13:21Speaker 4: scoop on things at times.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Right, are there people in radio that you really admired
- 13:27Speaker 2: or you studied when you were coming up?
- 13:31Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I love Angie Martinez. And because I
- 13:33Speaker 4: never thought I would do radio, I wouldn't say that
- 13:35Speaker 4: I studied, you know, I just enjoyed listening. And so
- 13:39Speaker 4: it's nice for me to be able to sit down
- 13:41Speaker 4: and talk to her and tell her those things, even
- 13:43Speaker 4: when she was working on her book. I remember we
- 13:46Speaker 4: went out to eat and I was telling her all
- 13:48Speaker 4: the things that mattered to me a lot growing up
- 13:50Speaker 4: in New York and she was.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Like, really, that was a big deal.
- 13:53Speaker 4: But she doesn't even understand at times, I think the
- 13:56Speaker 4: impact that she had and how important some of the
- 14:00Speaker 4: milestones and things that she created were to somebody like me.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Is it fair to say she's the voice of New York.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely, you know, to this day, like listen, it's
- 14:12Speaker 1: still I'm still in awe.
- 14:14Speaker 4: We went out to eat a couple of weeks ago
- 14:16Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, believe I'm just sitting here
- 14:18Speaker 4: kicking it with Angie Martinez. You know, it still feels
- 14:21Speaker 4: like that. And we're going to the Radio Hall of Fame.
- 14:24Speaker 4: We got inducted last year and so this year we're
- 14:28Speaker 4: going to the actual ceremony, and so it's just nice
- 14:31Speaker 4: that I could be like, that's my friend.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the Drake quote when your idols become
- 14:37Speaker 2: your rivals, even though it sounds like you're not rivals.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Oh no, I wouldn't even compare myself to Angie.
- 14:42Speaker 4: I mean, she's been doing this so much longer than
- 14:44Speaker 4: I have, and I respect what she has. Like she
- 14:47Speaker 4: has an interview with Tupac. She's never put out, you know,
- 14:50Speaker 4: she has. She was instrumental in talking to Nods and
- 14:54Speaker 4: jay Z during their beef. She just started the Battle
- 14:57Speaker 4: of the Beasts, Like she has so many things under
- 14:59Speaker 4: her belt. Well that I admire, so, you know, I mean,
- 15:03Speaker 4: I hope to one day be on the level where
- 15:05Speaker 4: people feel like that about me too.
- 15:07Speaker 1: But that's just how I look at Angie.
- 15:09Speaker 2: What's the best advice that she's given you?
- 15:12Speaker 4: You know, I think what I like about her is
- 15:14Speaker 4: that she's a nice person and she doesn't feel like
- 15:17Speaker 4: she has to be shock jock in order to be successful.
- 15:22Speaker 4: And so I would say just for her to say,
- 15:25Speaker 4: to be yourself and not have to feel like you
- 15:27Speaker 4: have to fit any type of role that's not who
- 15:31Speaker 4: you are.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I feel like in radio, just like in anything, it
- 15:35Speaker 2: takes time to find your footing. When you look back
- 15:38Speaker 2: on your old footage or listen to your old tapes,
- 15:41Speaker 2: how long do you think it took you to find
- 15:43Speaker 2: your voice? When did it click?
- 15:45Speaker 4: I'll say this, I was lucky that I had a
- 15:47Speaker 4: crash course because I was on the air every day
- 15:49Speaker 4: when I started. And I know, like there's certain people
- 15:52Speaker 4: who do it now and they might have like a
- 15:54Speaker 4: weekly show where they don't get as much talk time,
- 15:57Speaker 4: but I was just thrown into it with plenty of
- 16:01Speaker 4: talk time, Like the whole idea of the show when
- 16:04Speaker 4: I first started, when I was working with cipher was
- 16:06Speaker 4: for me to like have everything and then he just
- 16:08Speaker 4: chime in on stuff, so that I was basically doing
- 16:11Speaker 4: the brunt of the work because he still was working
- 16:14Speaker 4: at Hot ninety seven also, and so for him this
- 16:17Speaker 4: was like a side hustle. For me, it was my
- 16:19Speaker 4: main hustle right at that time. It was just me
- 16:22Speaker 4: kind of like doing a lot of the stuff to
- 16:24Speaker 4: make sure that he was comfortable and didn't have to
- 16:26Speaker 4: do too much. And so I feel like that crash
- 16:29Speaker 4: course helped me get better quicker. And so maybe like
- 16:35Speaker 4: three or four months it took until I finally had
- 16:38Speaker 4: my stride, which is it's a long time, but it's
- 16:42Speaker 4: not you know what I mean.
- 16:44Speaker 2: The in the grand scheme of things. Yeah.
- 16:47Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I was able to do the show
- 16:48Speaker 4: without him a lot because sometimes he just when it
- 16:50Speaker 4: comes to work and then seriously and then I just
- 16:54Speaker 4: had to hold it down and fortunately for like everything
- 16:58Speaker 4: still went smooth. And so that was just a time
- 17:01Speaker 4: when I was like, Okay, I can do this.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Do you feel like you could take vacation days now?
- 17:06Speaker 2: Or you still like I better show up every day.
- 17:09Speaker 1: I love to take a vacation. I just put two
- 17:11Speaker 1: in today I'm taking Listen.
- 17:13Speaker 4: When I first started, I would not even use all
- 17:15Speaker 4: my vacation days. I would be like, no, I can't.
- 17:17Speaker 4: I have to work, and I just like work, work, work,
- 17:19Speaker 4: and not even take my vacation. Now I'm like, I
- 17:22Speaker 4: need my vacation days and I'm going to take every
- 17:25Speaker 4: single one of them that I'm supposed to because you
- 17:28Speaker 4: earn that and you can't even really be great at
- 17:31Speaker 4: what you do if you're not resting. Sometimes I have
- 17:33Speaker 4: a lot of other things I do outside. Sometimes I
- 17:35Speaker 4: take vacation to go do other work because waking up
- 17:39Speaker 4: at four o'clock in the morning, if I don't have
- 17:41Speaker 4: to do that and I have a lot of things
- 17:42Speaker 4: going on, you know, it helps me. And so it's
- 17:46Speaker 4: just a balance of making sure that I don't burn
- 17:49Speaker 4: myself out at the same time.
- 17:51Speaker 2: So I read that you said being the only woman
- 17:53Speaker 2: in the room makes you feel like you always have
- 17:55Speaker 2: to cut in when you have something to say. How
- 17:58Speaker 2: do you make sure that your voice has heard because
- 18:01Speaker 2: you have two people with a lot of opinions co
- 18:03Speaker 2: hosting with you.
- 18:06Speaker 4: I do have to just like jump on top of it.
- 18:08Speaker 4: And sometimes people be like, oh, angela talk tone. I
- 18:11Speaker 4: don't care, like if I had something I want to say,
- 18:14Speaker 4: and I try to be patient, and like it's like
- 18:17Speaker 4: double Dutch. I just got to jump in and figure
- 18:19Speaker 4: out where I can get in at a certain point.
- 18:21Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll ask a questions and then I have a
- 18:23Speaker 4: follow up, but then they somebody else asked a question.
- 18:26Speaker 4: So it's always just you trying to like get yourself
- 18:28Speaker 4: in there.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, you know. I read Charlemagne did an
- 18:32Speaker 2: interview with Gucci and he said something. Gucci said something
- 18:37Speaker 2: about you. Charlemagne didn't defend you, and then later he
- 18:40Speaker 2: said that you weren't friends anymore, which I was kind
- 18:42Speaker 2: of shocked by. Are you guys cool again?
- 18:45Speaker 1: I would say, we're just coworkers.
- 18:46Speaker 4: So even back then, like before that, it's not like
- 18:49Speaker 4: we were friends. You know, we don't hang out. It's
- 18:52Speaker 4: not like I go to his house, he comes to
- 18:54Speaker 4: my house. We just work together. And I think that's
- 18:56Speaker 4: the majority of people, right, They just have to work
- 19:00Speaker 4: with people, and it's not necessarily people that they hang
- 19:02Speaker 4: out with, And so I think sometimes even in order
- 19:05Speaker 4: for you to have a good working relationship, you really
- 19:08Speaker 4: can't be friends too.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what do you mean by that?
- 19:12Speaker 4: Because sometimes when you're friends with somebody, it's hard to
- 19:16Speaker 4: separate things. Like I've had friendships that have gotten ruined
- 19:19Speaker 4: over work, because look, you can't really throw your friend
- 19:22Speaker 4: under the bus, or you can't really go and say,
- 19:24Speaker 4: but you're not doing it, you know, So sometimes it's
- 19:28Speaker 4: easier for you to understand. You see how many people
- 19:31Speaker 4: that have been in groups that broke up and they
- 19:32Speaker 4: can't stand each other, you know, And it's business. And
- 19:36Speaker 4: I think if you can keep certain things business and
- 19:39Speaker 4: understand this is what we have to do for work
- 19:40Speaker 4: and not have feelings and emotions behind it, it's much
- 19:43Speaker 4: easier to function than if you feel like I can't
- 19:46Speaker 4: believe this person did that to me.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's a mutual respect now?
- 19:51Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure
- 19:55Speaker 4: because I think people notice if I'm not there, you know,
- 19:58Speaker 4: they know that, like I do a lot a lot
- 20:00Speaker 4: on that show every single morning, and so when I'm
- 20:03Speaker 4: not there, they're like ANGELA, hurry up. Like people can't
- 20:06Speaker 4: it's hard for them when I'm not there because of
- 20:08Speaker 4: how much work I put in, So you can'tnot respect that,
- 20:11Speaker 4: you know, And I think for all of us everybody
- 20:14Speaker 4: says that when one of us isn't there, it's not
- 20:16Speaker 4: as smooth.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Like you guys are are a trio.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Hip hop has more women now, but for a long
- 20:24Speaker 2: time it was completely a boys club and you were
- 20:27Speaker 2: coming up in the music industry during that. What did
- 20:30Speaker 2: you learn from the men in hip hop? What was
- 20:32Speaker 2: your biggest takeaway?
- 20:34Speaker 4: That you have to mind your business when certain things
- 20:37Speaker 4: are going on, and certain times you got to, you know,
- 20:41Speaker 4: go hard and speak up. I think people want to
- 20:43Speaker 4: trust that when you're around, they know that you can
- 20:46Speaker 4: hold it down and keep things that are personal, like
- 20:49Speaker 4: you see a lot and so you have to really
- 20:53Speaker 4: know that you cannot like talk and tell people's business.
- 20:57Speaker 1: It took a while for women to be able to.
- 20:58Speaker 4: Find their voice in this business just because we were
- 21:00Speaker 4: so outnumbered and didn't have the power. But I feel
- 21:03Speaker 4: like now we have a lot more power to do that.
- 21:06Speaker 4: I would just say to pick your battles that you
- 21:09Speaker 4: want to fight. You know, some things are small and
- 21:13Speaker 4: not worth it, and other things I believe you just
- 21:16Speaker 4: can't let slide because a lot of times, I think
- 21:19Speaker 4: in the past, we let so many things slide just
- 21:21Speaker 4: because we didn't have power, but now I feel like
- 21:24Speaker 4: we have to learn how to support each other, women
- 21:27Speaker 4: in particular more.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Do you feel like women and hip hop support each
- 21:32Speaker 2: other now?
- 21:33Speaker 1: I feel like it's a lot better.
- 21:34Speaker 4: Yes, And I love when I see it, Like I
- 21:36Speaker 4: love when I see women like reposting each other or
- 21:40Speaker 4: working on songs together or saying how much they love
- 21:42Speaker 4: each other, and so I think that's a really great
- 21:45Speaker 4: and positive thing. And yeah, I do see it. I
- 21:47Speaker 4: do see it a lot more. And listen, hip hop
- 21:49Speaker 4: is competitive. I know that, and we all know that,
- 21:51Speaker 4: and it's supposed to be. And that's not to say
- 21:53Speaker 4: you can't be competitive, but then still give each other
- 21:55Speaker 4: a hug or still show each other love.
- 21:58Speaker 2: What is the state of of hip hop right now?
- 22:02Speaker 1: First of all, it's very oversaturated.
- 22:03Speaker 4: There's so much stuff that coming out all the time
- 22:06Speaker 4: that it's impossible to keep up with everything. But just
- 22:09Speaker 4: like in every type of industry, the best always does
- 22:13Speaker 4: rise to the top and there's something for everyone.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I feel like hip hop has different genres too.
- 22:17Speaker 4: Now we didn't really have it like that before, but
- 22:19Speaker 4: there's all these different genres of hip hop. Now there's
- 22:22Speaker 4: like hip hop that has like a punk fail to it.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Then there's hip hop that is like trap music.
- 22:30Speaker 4: Then there's conscious hip hop, then there's gangster hip hop.
- 22:34Speaker 1: You know, it's all different kinds.
- 22:36Speaker 4: There's you know, more authentic hip hop that's all about
- 22:39Speaker 4: the lyrics.
- 22:40Speaker 1: There's stuff that's just there for you to dance too.
- 22:43Speaker 4: So I feel like it definitely has brought it into
- 22:45Speaker 4: so many different categories.
- 22:47Speaker 2: So I know, I worked in radio when I first started,
- 22:52Speaker 2: and one of the things I learned pretty quickly is
- 22:54Speaker 2: that people that work in radio don't really listen to
- 22:57Speaker 2: a lot of music on their time off because they're
- 22:59Speaker 2: just there's always so much in their ears. When you
- 23:02Speaker 2: do listen to music, what are you listening to?
- 23:06Speaker 4: I love R and B and I love dance song
- 23:08Speaker 4: I listen to Soca. I do listen to hip hop,
- 23:12Speaker 4: but I would say that out of those four, probably
- 23:15Speaker 4: I listen to dance hall music the most, then R
- 23:18Speaker 4: and B, then hip hop, then Soca.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Okay cool. You talk so much about the research and
- 23:25Speaker 2: the preparation you do. How do you prep for an interview, Like,
- 23:29Speaker 2: if you know that you're interviewing young Thug tomorrow, what's
- 23:32Speaker 2: your process?
- 23:34Speaker 4: The first thing I do is listen to his album
- 23:36Speaker 4: and pull that up, and then I will watch the
- 23:40Speaker 4: music videos that are most recent, and then with that,
- 23:42Speaker 4: I look at some other interviews that he's done recently
- 23:46Speaker 4: and any articles that have been written about him.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I look at his Instagram page, I look at.
- 23:50Speaker 4: His Twitter page, you know, I read some of the
- 23:52Speaker 4: comments and see what people are saying. And if I
- 23:55Speaker 4: know anybody that knows him, I also send them a
- 23:58Speaker 4: message and be like, Hey, I'm interviewing young is there
- 24:00Speaker 4: anything you feel like I should know?
- 24:02Speaker 2: Does that ever work?
- 24:03Speaker 5: Like?
- 24:03Speaker 2: People will kind of give you tidbits of things that
- 24:05Speaker 2: they know.
- 24:07Speaker 1: All the time.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Ooh that you got sources?
- 24:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the best
- 24:12Speaker 4: ways to do it because that's more personal. And so
- 24:15Speaker 4: when you have something that and you don't ever say
- 24:18Speaker 4: where you got it from, but when you can ask
- 24:20Speaker 4: somebody something that someone who knows them knows that they'll
- 24:23Speaker 4: care about, you, know, it shows that you went a
- 24:25Speaker 4: little bit out your way.
- 24:27Speaker 2: I love that you do deep research. I do deep
- 24:30Speaker 2: research too, Like, I don't feel comfortable going into an
- 24:33Speaker 2: interview without it. So I watched tons of your interviews
- 24:36Speaker 2: and I have a few questions for you Okay, which
- 24:40Speaker 2: interview did you feel most out of your depths, like
- 24:42Speaker 2: really nervous going into.
- 24:45Speaker 4: I don't know, it's not too often that I feel
- 24:48Speaker 4: like that, as long as you're prepared. The only time
- 24:51Speaker 4: that I feel like that is if I'm not really prepared,
- 24:54Speaker 4: you know what. But the things that make me the
- 24:56Speaker 4: most nervous are one on one interviews when I.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Have to do those, Yeah, because you're not doing that
- 25:01Speaker 2: every day. It's different.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's all on you for real, like
- 25:05Speaker 4: to It's not like someone else is going to jump
- 25:07Speaker 4: in and say something or push the conversation.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Along if you, you know, have a moment of downtime.
- 25:14Speaker 4: So those are always the ones that had me the
- 25:16Speaker 4: most anxious when I have to do those. And so
- 25:20Speaker 4: you know, I did one with Kodak Black, I did
- 25:22Speaker 4: gond Rondo, I did August Alstina, I did Young Boy.
- 25:25Speaker 4: So I've done quite a few of them, and I
- 25:28Speaker 4: feel like those are the ones that are always like, damn.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Okay, So you brought it up August Elsina that interview.
- 25:37Speaker 2: First of all, how did you book that interview?
- 25:41Speaker 4: So he used to be signed to Deaf Jam. He
- 25:43Speaker 4: put that last project out on Empire and my friend
- 25:46Speaker 4: Na Tina, who works at deaf Jam, asked me, would
- 25:48Speaker 4: you be willing to interview August and I said, yeah,
- 25:51Speaker 4: of course. You know, I did his album release party
- 25:53Speaker 4: when he first put out his first album, I did
- 25:56Speaker 4: his Facebook interview, so I had done a lot of
- 25:58Speaker 4: things with him already, and so he was comfortable with me.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Did you know that he was going to reveal that
- 26:04Speaker 2: he had a relationship with Jada or an entanglement pretty much?
- 26:08Speaker 4: I mean I think it was already something that was obvious,
- 26:11Speaker 4: and before the interview he did tell me. He was like,
- 26:13Speaker 4: look and I'm gonna, you know, give you this and
- 26:18Speaker 4: it's going to be a big deal. But whatever it is,
- 26:20Speaker 4: I'm about to say, I just don't want to dwell
- 26:22Speaker 4: on it. If you could do that for me, So
- 26:25Speaker 4: I was like, that's fine, Like, you know, I didn't
- 26:27Speaker 4: know what he was going to say exactly, but I
- 26:30Speaker 4: kind of had that idea that it would be okay
- 26:33Speaker 4: for me to ask, and he was ready to be
- 26:34Speaker 4: honest about it and he didn't want to go into
- 26:38Speaker 4: detail about it.
- 26:40Speaker 2: I mean, you must have been like, like you got
- 26:42Speaker 2: the scoop.
- 26:45Speaker 4: You know, when I got it, I didn't think that
- 26:48Speaker 4: they were going to put it out for real, because
- 26:49Speaker 4: it was him.
- 26:50Speaker 1: And his team filming it.
- 26:51Speaker 4: So in my head, I was like, maybe they're not
- 26:53Speaker 4: even going to use this part, you know, they might
- 26:55Speaker 4: edit it out. So when it happened, I was like,
- 26:57Speaker 4: there's no way they're going to put this out. And
- 27:00Speaker 4: then August tell me he said he actually sent that
- 27:02Speaker 4: part to Data before he put it out, just so
- 27:06Speaker 4: that she wouldn't be caught off guard. And so that's
- 27:09Speaker 4: when I realized they really were going to put it out.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Well, because there's been rumors in Hollywood for like the
- 27:14Speaker 2: last twenty years that Will and Jada kind of had
- 27:17Speaker 2: like an open relationship, but nothing was ever confirmed. So
- 27:21Speaker 2: for this moment was really I mean, it was a moment.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's spurned a lot of things, and I
- 27:29Speaker 4: feel like after that, you see Will opening up about
- 27:33Speaker 4: different things in their relationship, and they did a red
- 27:36Speaker 4: table talk about it, and so a lot of things
- 27:39Speaker 4: are coming out now. But maybe for them that's therapeutic.
- 27:44Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe having this open secret and people
- 27:49Speaker 4: are kind of talking about it and having their own
- 27:51Speaker 4: theories on.
- 27:52Speaker 1: It, and you get to just say what it really is.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Yeah, did they ever reach out to you?
- 27:58Speaker 1: No?
- 27:59Speaker 4: Were you of us that they would no, because I
- 28:02Speaker 4: didn't do anything, Like, first of all, I think I
- 28:04Speaker 4: was very.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Respectful about it.
- 28:07Speaker 4: I didn't ask anything that was disrespectful, and I didn't
- 28:11Speaker 4: say anything about it that was negative. Like I'm friends
- 28:16Speaker 4: with August, Like I like August, and I think that
- 28:19Speaker 4: he's gone through a lot in his life, just with
- 28:22Speaker 4: his health obviously, with his family, with so many different things,
- 28:26Speaker 4: and so whatever it is, I handle it with care.
- 28:30Speaker 2: That's really nice. And I'm sure that's why he wanted
- 28:32Speaker 2: you to do the interview. He felt that from you.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Why do you think he wanted to talk about it
- 28:39Speaker 2: because like a lot, I mean, there's a lot of
- 28:41Speaker 2: things that happened behind the scenes, and there's kind of
- 28:43Speaker 2: like this don't kiss and tell environment.
- 28:47Speaker 4: I think that he felt that he was getting BlackBelt
- 28:49Speaker 4: from things because of the relationship, and he said as much.
- 28:54Speaker 4: And I can say that because you know, he did
- 28:57Speaker 4: say that. So there were certain opportunities and people were
- 29:00Speaker 4: also looking at him like he was getting in between
- 29:04Speaker 4: a relationship, and so he just wanted to be truthful
- 29:08Speaker 4: and honest about what's what happened. And August is like
- 29:12Speaker 4: a very open book type of person, and so I
- 29:15Speaker 4: can see why it was something that was weighing on him.
- 29:18Speaker 4: You know, he lost his sister and he's taking care
- 29:22Speaker 4: of his nieces. He's got a lot of things going
- 29:25Speaker 4: on in his life, and that was something that he
- 29:26Speaker 4: just felt like he needed to free him from whatever
- 29:30Speaker 4: it was. And so listen, you can't ever be mad
- 29:33Speaker 4: at somebody for telling the truth, even if.
- 29:35Speaker 1: You feel like it's a kiss and tell situation.
- 29:37Speaker 4: If it really happened, it happened, and people have the
- 29:41Speaker 4: right to, you know, say what they want to say
- 29:43Speaker 4: if it involves them.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Yeah, what's some challenging aspect of your job that you
- 29:50Speaker 2: feel like people don't give you credit for waking up early? No,
- 29:54Speaker 2: I mean people don't know how hard that is.
- 29:56Speaker 4: That's true, that is really hard, you know, but also
- 30:00Speaker 4: like the sacrifices that you have to make. I don't
- 30:02Speaker 4: think people realize that. I don't think people realize that.
- 30:05Speaker 4: You know, every single night, before I go to work,
- 30:08Speaker 4: I'm still working before I go to bed, no matter
- 30:10Speaker 4: what time I come home, I'm still like preparing things
- 30:13Speaker 4: for the next day. Yeah, and I'm the only one
- 30:17Speaker 4: of us that does that probably on that show, which
- 30:20Speaker 4: is fine, you know, but it's just how I am.
- 30:23Speaker 4: And then I get to work before everybody, and that
- 30:25Speaker 4: is just because I want to go over the stories,
- 30:27Speaker 4: go over the audio clips that we're going to use,
- 30:30Speaker 4: and make sure that I have everything together, so I'm
- 30:33Speaker 4: not just like reading off somebody wrote something for me.
- 30:36Speaker 4: But I'm really familiar with what I'm talking about. And
- 30:39Speaker 4: I think sometimes people feel like I'm supposed to know
- 30:42Speaker 4: all the facts, and that's not necessarily true.
- 30:45Speaker 1: It's a collaborative effort.
- 30:47Speaker 4: So sometimes if like one of the guys ask me
- 30:49Speaker 4: something and I don't know what the answer is, I
- 30:51Speaker 4: also feel like, why don't you know the answer, you know,
- 30:53Speaker 4: because I'm not really there to be like, you know,
- 30:57Speaker 4: newsperson expert. I'm just reporting on stories and doing my
- 31:01Speaker 4: own research.
- 31:02Speaker 1: But you guys can do that too, Yeah.
- 31:04Speaker 2: So it's like, why are you the librarian?
- 31:07Speaker 1: Right?
- 31:07Speaker 4: So sometimes people look at me like I'm supposed to
- 31:09Speaker 4: be doing that.
- 31:10Speaker 3: No.
- 31:10Speaker 4: I do it as to the best of my ability,
- 31:13Speaker 4: but it's not always perfect. And so you know, that's
- 31:17Speaker 4: just me putting a lot on myself all the time.
- 31:19Speaker 4: And then I feel like I've like slipped into this
- 31:22Speaker 4: role of I'm supposed to be able to like answer
- 31:24Speaker 4: any question, and that's just not true.
- 31:26Speaker 2: I heard you ask Rick Ross such a great question.
- 31:29Speaker 2: You said, how important is it to have the right
- 31:31Speaker 2: woman in your life to support you and for you
- 31:33Speaker 2: to support her. I wanted to know how important you
- 31:36Speaker 2: feel like partnership is because you're so independent and strong.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Is that something that you feel like is important in
- 31:42Speaker 2: your life?
- 31:43Speaker 4: Absolutely, listen. I love the fact that I can be
- 31:46Speaker 4: with somebody who is supportive of what I want to do,
- 31:49Speaker 4: who takes my side on things, so I can come
- 31:52Speaker 4: back and complain and be like this happen and he's like,
- 31:55Speaker 4: oh my god, that person's whack, and just you need
- 31:58Speaker 4: that sometimes, right if you're man is not there to
- 32:00Speaker 4: hype you up and be on your side, but then
- 32:03Speaker 4: also tell me when he thinks I'm being ridiculous and
- 32:06Speaker 4: be able to call that out. And somebody that is
- 32:08Speaker 4: like that person you call first whether there's some good
- 32:10Speaker 4: news happening or when you need some advice, and when
- 32:13Speaker 4: you just like need to just sit there together and
- 32:16Speaker 4: watch TV and chill and have a little bit of downtime.
- 32:20Speaker 4: But that's good to celebrate your wins, or give you
- 32:22Speaker 4: suggestions on things you could do, or link you with
- 32:25Speaker 4: people like, yo, I've met this person that would be
- 32:27Speaker 4: great for this for you. So those things are really
- 32:29Speaker 4: important to me, and I try to bring that to
- 32:31Speaker 4: the table too. So that's why I feel like it
- 32:34Speaker 4: is one of the most important things, because you know,
- 32:37Speaker 4: I feel like when things aren't going right, as long
- 32:40Speaker 4: as you have somebody great in your corner, it makes
- 32:42Speaker 4: life so much better, and and vice versa too. When
- 32:45Speaker 4: you don't have the right person in your corner, at
- 32:46Speaker 4: least let everything else in your life be right.
- 32:49Speaker 2: You're super entrepreneurial. You have a podcast called lip Service,
- 32:53Speaker 2: you have a juice business, a coffee company. At what
- 32:56Speaker 2: point in your radio career did you start wanting to
- 32:58Speaker 2: seek things outside of radio.
- 33:00Speaker 4: I've always been like a multi streams of income type
- 33:04Speaker 4: of person, so that's something that I've always done. And
- 33:08Speaker 4: I used to be a consultant and freelance a bunch
- 33:11Speaker 4: of different places at once.
- 33:13Speaker 1: So now I feel like that prepared me for balancing.
- 33:16Speaker 4: My time to do different things because I've always kind
- 33:19Speaker 4: of done that. The first thing I did was to
- 33:21Speaker 4: open a juice bar and I wasn't even looking at
- 33:23Speaker 4: it like, oh, I got to do things outside of radio.
- 33:26Speaker 1: It was just something that I felt like.
- 33:28Speaker 4: I never really had the disposable income to be able
- 33:32Speaker 4: to invest in a business that I wanted to open
- 33:34Speaker 4: until a few years ago. So once I was able
- 33:37Speaker 4: to do that, and I felt good enough of like
- 33:39Speaker 4: having properties and having other things going on, and I
- 33:43Speaker 4: have this money that I feel like, even if it
- 33:45Speaker 4: didn't work out, I'll be okay, And so that was
- 33:49Speaker 4: important for me. And then a business that I felt
- 33:51Speaker 4: like was necessary and something that I use and could
- 33:53Speaker 4: be passionate about, and so I decided to start with that.
- 33:57Speaker 4: And then once I did that, I actually felt like
- 34:00Speaker 4: I wanted to do more. And even opening the juice
- 34:03Speaker 4: bars what led me to having a press juice company,
- 34:06Speaker 4: just when people coming in and seeing the need for
- 34:08Speaker 4: it and people wanting juice bars in their neighborhood, realizing
- 34:11Speaker 4: I don't have the time to do that, but I
- 34:15Speaker 4: do have the time to start a press juice company,
- 34:16Speaker 4: and so that kind of spawned that, and then the
- 34:19Speaker 4: coffee company came from me trying to find a storage facility.
- 34:22Speaker 4: We were trying to look for someplace to put the
- 34:24Speaker 4: press juices during a pandemic, and that's when me approached
- 34:27Speaker 4: Brooklyn Roasting and then ended up doing a partnership to
- 34:30Speaker 4: start our own coffee company.
- 34:32Speaker 2: That's so cool. I so admire that. It's really hard
- 34:36Speaker 2: to find enough time and energy with what you do
- 34:39Speaker 2: getting up so early as it is. So that's really cool.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Okay, we have some rapid fire because I know you
- 34:45Speaker 2: gotta go. So you talk a ton about financial freedom
- 34:49Speaker 2: through investment. What is your number one financial tip?
- 34:54Speaker 1: When you decide you went to invest in something, do
- 34:57Speaker 1: to research.
- 34:58Speaker 2: You know.
- 34:58Speaker 4: I use this app called public Right Now to invest,
- 35:02Speaker 4: and if I see something on there that people are
- 35:04Speaker 4: talking about, I go off the ad and do the
- 35:06Speaker 4: research for myself and then I go buy it. If
- 35:09Speaker 4: I do want to buy it right away, I can
- 35:10Speaker 4: put it on my watch list so that I could
- 35:12Speaker 4: see when it dips, because that's a good time to
- 35:14Speaker 4: buy a stock when it dips, and buy at that
- 35:16Speaker 4: point in time.
- 35:17Speaker 1: But definitely watch it.
- 35:18Speaker 4: Don't try to do something that's like a fad or
- 35:20Speaker 4: you see everybody talking about it. Sometimes that's not the
- 35:23Speaker 4: best thing to do. It's about timing and it's about research.
- 35:28Speaker 2: What's the best concert you've ever been to.
- 35:31Speaker 4: We went to go see Boujou in the Bahamas. I
- 35:35Speaker 4: love stuff that's like, you know, outdoors in some great weather,
- 35:40Speaker 4: so I would have to say that was probably the
- 35:42Speaker 4: most fun.
- 35:43Speaker 2: He's a legend. What's the biggest perk of your job?
- 35:48Speaker 4: The biggest perg of my job is that sometimes when
- 35:50Speaker 4: we get to travel, I say, and do a little
- 35:52Speaker 4: mini vacation.
- 35:53Speaker 1: And so the biggest perk is like all the outside.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Things that we get to do from being there too,
- 35:59Speaker 4: just being the but I have the opportunity to make
- 36:01Speaker 4: money and other have other sources of income because of
- 36:04Speaker 4: the platform that we have on the Breakfast Club.
- 36:06Speaker 1: That's that's definitely one of the biggest perks.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a gift. Who were you most excited about
- 36:12Speaker 2: following you on Instagram?
- 36:14Speaker 4: Oh my god, I remember the White House followed me
- 36:16Speaker 4: for a little while, so that was crazy. That's how
- 36:18Speaker 4: I had to do was but then I think they
- 36:20Speaker 4: followed me. But anyway, that was pretty cool for a
- 36:23Speaker 4: hot second, and they followed me for a few months,
- 36:26Speaker 4: and they don't follow They don't follow a lot of people.
- 36:29Speaker 1: People.
- 36:30Speaker 4: It's nice when somebody follows you and they don't follow
- 36:32Speaker 4: a lot of people, you know.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a big feather in your cap. What
- 36:36Speaker 2: is a book that changed your life?
- 36:38Speaker 4: I've read so many books, but I mean, I like
- 36:42Speaker 4: Robert Green, Like I really enjoyed the book Mastery, just
- 36:46Speaker 4: because it really made me feel like I have to
- 36:48Speaker 4: go hard at researching and studying in order to be
- 36:51Speaker 4: great at something, and so I've been doing that.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I do a pretty smart question every week. I have
- 36:57Speaker 2: a card deck fifty two questions. I'm gonna pick one
- 37:00Speaker 2: at random for you. Okay, what is the most memorable
- 37:05Speaker 2: meal You've ever had?
- 37:09Speaker 1: The most memorable mail I've ever had? Ah, so many?
- 37:12Speaker 4: Let me see, it's probably something I made. I'm kidding.
- 37:18Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I would have to say. It's gotta be
- 37:22Speaker 4: in Jamaica. Jerk chicken on the side of that road.
- 37:25Speaker 4: There's nothing like tasting that jerk chicken right off that grill,
- 37:28Speaker 4: nice and crispy with that charcoal flavor on it.
- 37:32Speaker 1: After the club. That is the first thing that pops
- 37:36Speaker 1: into my head.
- 37:37Speaker 2: I could tell that friendship is really important to you.
- 37:40Speaker 2: What do you think the number one thing is to
- 37:43Speaker 2: being a good friend, just.
- 37:46Speaker 4: To be able to do what you say you're gonna do.
- 37:51Speaker 4: You know, I think that's to show up if you
- 37:53Speaker 4: say I got you girl, I'm gonna do this for you,
- 37:56Speaker 4: and vice versa. You know that you come through because
- 38:01Speaker 4: we live in a world where so many people do
- 38:03Speaker 4: not keep their word, and your friends, unless something happens
- 38:07Speaker 4: and you know they give you a heads up, should
- 38:09Speaker 4: definitely be able to keep their word and do what
- 38:11Speaker 4: they say they're going to do.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Okay, last two questions. The first one is true or false?
- 38:17Speaker 2: Question everything?
- 38:19Speaker 1: I'm false.
- 38:20Speaker 2: What are you not supposed to question?
- 38:23Speaker 4: I think if something positive happens, I don't question that.
- 38:27Speaker 4: If somebody does something nice for you, I don't question that.
- 38:29Speaker 4: If somebody is a fucked up person, I don't question
- 38:32Speaker 4: that either.
- 38:34Speaker 2: I love that you actually changed my mind about that.
- 38:36Speaker 2: You're right.
- 38:37Speaker 4: I tend to take things that face value most of
- 38:39Speaker 4: the time. I don't need an explanation. I am you
- 38:42Speaker 4: know I can figure it out.
- 38:43Speaker 2: I appreciate that, all right. The first thing that pops
- 38:46Speaker 2: into your mind, what is the smartest decision you've ever.
- 38:48Speaker 1: Made by a house?
- 38:52Speaker 2: That must have been so exciting.
- 38:53Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great decision. I had to figure
- 38:56Speaker 4: it out pretty much on my own. I got a
- 38:58Speaker 4: great realtor, so that was how help bo. But it
- 39:01Speaker 4: was a scary thing. But when I decided I wanted
- 39:03Speaker 4: to do it, I went so hard to save up
- 39:05Speaker 4: the money for that down payment, and I was just
- 39:08Speaker 4: doing whatever I could, all my side hustles to get
- 39:11Speaker 4: it together.
- 39:11Speaker 1: And I'm so glad I did it.
- 39:13Speaker 2: That's so cool, Angela, thank you for taking the time.
- 39:16Speaker 2: I loved getting to know you better today.
- 39:26Speaker 5: All right, today's a good day to have a good day.
- 39:39Speaker 2: I'll see you next week.