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#1535 Icing Your Balls - Lucas Aoun · The You Project

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Speaker 1: I'll get a team at HAPs. It's Lucas, it's the
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Speaker 1: Youth Project. Hope you're bloody terrific. Hi mate, welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the show. How are you yeah?
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Speaker 2: Going well? Thanks, Craig, Yeah, yeah, keep it well.
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Speaker 1: You look and sound tired. We just got off a
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Speaker 1: little chattarooney before we press the go button. Then you've
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Speaker 1: been wheeling and dealing with people on the other side
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Speaker 1: of the world. Am I allowed to say? You're allowed
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Speaker 1: to say kind of where you're at in terms of yeah,
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Speaker 1: a bit of R and D in your own kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I might as well preface the conversation with Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're just chatting offline about planning on launching my own
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Speaker 2: supplement range. You know, that's been one of my missions
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Speaker 2: and goals from probably like five six years ago. Like
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Speaker 2: I've always wanted to release my own formulas. I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: well known now as like an expert supplement formulator understanding ingredients, dosages.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm pretty well known for. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 2: was just pretty much back and forth with some supplier
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Speaker 2: in Brazil in which we're actually sourcing one of the
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Speaker 2: herbs from, and yeah, back and forth with like quality
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Speaker 2: control assessments because this is a this is new territory
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Speaker 2: for me. But I've got I've got good mentors around
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Speaker 2: me that sort of tell me like what I should
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Speaker 2: be doing and how I should be going about things.
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Speaker 2: And look, I understand the supplement lands the supplement landscape
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Speaker 2: in particular is a very very i would say, dodgy.
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Speaker 2: And also like there's a lot of contract manufacturers which
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Speaker 2: also scam the brands as well. So what we're trying
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Speaker 2: to do is we're not relying on anyone. We're trying
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Speaker 2: to like get things checked by third party analysis to
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Speaker 2: make sure things are legitimate. And yeah, like I was
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Speaker 2: saying before, just back and forth, you know, trying to
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Speaker 2: make sure the quality is up to up to up
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Speaker 2: to par you know, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, because there's I mean, businesses is fucking not easy.
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Speaker 1: Businesses fascinating and interesting because like say you're good at
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Speaker 1: something like back in the day, I was not bad
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Speaker 1: at personal training, right, but there were no personal training
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Speaker 1: gyms in Australia, and I went, oh well, and the
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Speaker 1: only reason that I set up my first studio was
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Speaker 1: because it was kind of inconvenient, unprofessional and messy training
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Speaker 1: people who were paying a premium in a public gym
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Speaker 1: Monday night at six point thirty, when you're vying for
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Speaker 1: equipment with stinky bodybuilders and you know, a myriad of
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Speaker 1: people in an overcrowded gym, and I'm trying to I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to supply or provide this high level experience with
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Speaker 1: people who are just not just not loving the environment.
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Speaker 1: And so then you go all right, well, I'll just
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Speaker 1: do it somewhere else. And then you go, oh, well
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Speaker 1: where else? And then you've got to figure out about
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Speaker 1: how do I lease commercial premises, how do I get
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Speaker 1: counsel permits to do this stuff, what are all the
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Speaker 1: legal requirements? And then how do I You know, for me,
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Speaker 1: it was like there was no industry, there was no qualification,
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Speaker 1: there was no insurance. I'm like, hmm, well there's all this,
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Speaker 1: you know. So there's the core thing, like you're good
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Speaker 1: at understanding supplements and the impact they have on the
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Speaker 1: body and research, but turning that into a financially viable
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Speaker 1: commercial reality that's a completely different skill set, right.
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Speaker 2: There really is. And also you've got the ideal scenario,
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Speaker 2: You've got your dream scenario, and then you've got the actual, realistic,
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Speaker 2: compromised no, this is what you can actually do. Like
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Speaker 2: I've got for me, I've got formula ideas that are
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Speaker 2: sitting on an Excel spreadsheet that are like if you
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Speaker 2: looked at them on paper, you'd be like, damn, this
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Speaker 2: is really impressive. Like he's really he's thought it through,
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Speaker 2: he's determined the right dosa Jersey's. But then if it's like,
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Speaker 2: all right, now, let's see if it's feasible slash. Can
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Speaker 2: it be done? Well, it can be done, but it's
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Speaker 2: going to cost you like fifty bucks a bottle. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: like this many you just need to learn to compromise it.
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Speaker 2: You need to be like to have a nerdy nerd
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Speaker 2: brain doesn't work in business. You need then, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, well, you need a hybrid brain. Dude. It's like
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm stumbling towards the end of my
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Speaker 1: PhD and I don't really have an academic brain, like
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Speaker 1: I can do it, but I'm more a creative I'm
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Speaker 1: more like instinctive intuitive and what you think and what
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Speaker 1: you feel. I mean well to an extent, but it's really,
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Speaker 1: as you know, it's all about the data, it's all
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Speaker 1: about the results, it's all about you know. So my
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Speaker 1: personality and my brain fucking hell, and then you shove
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Speaker 1: me in the middle of that environment with those requirements necessary,
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, I need to change, or at
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Speaker 1: the very least, I need to develop new awareness, understanding
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Speaker 1: and skills, you know. So you're right, there's the nerd
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Speaker 1: who understands the science of the formula or the formulae
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Speaker 1: and the doc and you know the physiological interactions. And
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Speaker 1: then but how the fuck do I make money from
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Speaker 1: this while still operating with integrity and actually giving people
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Speaker 1: something that's not just another bullshit product in a bullshit
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Speaker 1: website that doesn't do what the fucking insta star says
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Speaker 1: it's going to do, you know, because there's that whole
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Speaker 1: that's the other thing. It's like, I feel like, while
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Speaker 1: we're drawing the analogy between you know, the space I
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Speaker 1: came from and the space you're in now, Like personal
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Speaker 1: trainers for a very long time and maybe now still
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Speaker 1: have a credibility problem, right because it's like, well, anyone
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Speaker 1: without being rude can become a trainer. You don't even
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Speaker 1: have to go to it. You can do it online.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, you can become a trainer in
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Speaker 1: as little as twelve weeks. And also, anyone can be
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Speaker 1: on a podcast like you and me, or on a
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Speaker 1: website like yours or whatever. With respect you. I know
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Speaker 1: that you're different, that's why you're on the show. But
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Speaker 1: anyone can say anything and sell anything, right. And so
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Speaker 1: for the punter who's got their fucking fifty bucks in
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Speaker 1: their hand, it's trying to figure out what's real and
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Speaker 1: what's a show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it's good learnings. These are like already
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Speaker 2: I've just taken from the last three days. Even though
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Speaker 2: when I initially we got the first report back that
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Speaker 2: said it didn't pass the quality control check. I've had
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Speaker 2: stepbacks in my career. Did this one in particular, I
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Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know what it was, but
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Speaker 2: it really hurt. It actually really hurt me. I was
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Speaker 2: really upset, and I was like I had to deploy
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Speaker 2: all the time. You know. Thankfully, I've got an amazing
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Speaker 2: social circle people around me, family friends that are all like,
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Speaker 2: it's all good, man, you get your bounce back, it's
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Speaker 2: all good. You'll find a different supplier. Yeah, And I've
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Speaker 2: been able to like kick myself back on my feet.
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Speaker 2: I think, honestly, doing a really hard aerobic exercise, like
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Speaker 2: aerobic workout, just like just shook things back into it.
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Speaker 2: I was just like back into gear after that, I
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Speaker 2: felt so much better.
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Speaker 1: Wow, isn't it like people don't I did not expect
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Speaker 1: you to say that, right, That wasn't what I thought
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Speaker 1: was coming out now next. But it is interesting when
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Speaker 1: sometimes we're going through albeit momentary or longer, but an
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Speaker 1: emotional and or psychological struggle, and then you go do
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Speaker 1: something which is completely physiological but has a psychological and
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Speaker 1: emotional impact. You go, ah, I didn't need to think
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Speaker 1: my way out of it. I needed to sweat my
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Speaker 1: way out of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. It's just yeah, it provides me so
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Speaker 2: much resilience. That's why, Honestly, that's one of the reasons why.
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Speaker 2: About ten weeks ago, I knew that I was coming
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Speaker 2: up with all right, bouscha biology my brand right now. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's it's coming along, it's doing all right. But now
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Speaker 2: it's like, all right, I'm starting a brand new company
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Speaker 2: that's starting a brand new supplement line. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: have to deploy every single tactic under the sun that
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Speaker 2: I know that enhances my own resilience. And that meant
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Speaker 2: that I was not saying goodbye to weight training, but
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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, fifty to sixty percent of
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Speaker 2: my training now is going to be aerobic conditioning. Not
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Speaker 2: so much because I'm caring about VO two max, but
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Speaker 2: more more about just because it gives, it builds, It
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Speaker 2: builds me a bigger cup. I've got a bigger cup. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: just to put it that way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of switches on that, you know,
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Speaker 1: that parasympathetic response, that fucking calm the farm, let's turn
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Speaker 1: down the volume on the cortsole and all that shit. Yeah. Well, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for you and I'm excited to see what
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Speaker 1: supplements that you come up with. So I thought what
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Speaker 1: we might do today actually before we do that. So
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Speaker 1: for the maybe thirty percent of our listeners right now
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Speaker 1: who haven't heard you and don't know who you are,
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Speaker 1: can you just give them rather than me read some crap,
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Speaker 1: can you? Can you give them a quick snapshot of
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Speaker 1: who you are and kind of what you do and
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Speaker 1: then we'll dive in.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, qualified natural path. But I'm
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Speaker 2: known online as Australia's number one biohacker, and that term
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Speaker 2: biohacking basically just means how can we change our lifestyle environment?
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Speaker 2: You know, how do we integrate food supplements, exercise to
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Speaker 2: maximize our physiological and psychological performance. So Craig, you're a
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Speaker 2: You're you're a bio hacker yourself because you know, you
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Speaker 2: understand the importance of exercise. You probably time your coffee
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Speaker 2: intake things like that. You know which foods impact you
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Speaker 2: in a good way. So for people who don't know me,
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Speaker 2: I would say that, like a lot of my content
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Speaker 2: is geared around showcasing novel health information that can benefit
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Speaker 2: millions of people. So that's really my main mission.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, you mentioned coffee. So what we're going to
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Speaker 1: do everyone, this might be one you might want to
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Speaker 1: listen to again, maybe even take some notes. So what
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do while we've got Australia's best biohacker
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Speaker 1: is I'm going to milk the fuck out of him
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Speaker 1: and for free, because that's how I roll, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's great, he comes on, it gives us
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Speaker 1: all this wisdom. I don't pay him and then he
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Speaker 1: fucks off. What a great system of pit. It's a
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Speaker 1: bit of a scam. No, hopefully, hopefully it's a little
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Speaker 1: bit win win, and we can get you a few
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Speaker 1: people on board the boost too biology train. But all right,
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Speaker 1: so you spoke about coffee slash caffeine, and I think
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Speaker 1: I heard you say the other day, I might fuck
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Speaker 1: this up, but you really you use your your caffeine
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Speaker 1: or your coffee strategically and you maybe only have one
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Speaker 1: coffee every two or three days. Is that correct? And
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Speaker 1: if so, explain that. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The I think the critical point to understand here is
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Speaker 2: that I view caffeine as as yet another tool in
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Speaker 2: my toolkit to enhance productivity, energy output, workout performance. It's
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Speaker 2: there as a tool, but it's not the only tool
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Speaker 2: that I have. It's just one of the tools that
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Speaker 2: I know. It will elicit certain effects in terms of wakefulness,
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Speaker 2: energy productivity, pushing through a hard workout. But then it's like,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, if I use this tool, what are
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Speaker 2: some of the there are some drawbacks that I that
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Speaker 2: I see with this particular tool, whereas with some of
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Speaker 2: the other tools, for example, the other supplements that I've
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Speaker 2: used or other herbal extracts that I've played around with,
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Speaker 2: they can give me the same effect as caffeine, but
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Speaker 2: without the side effects or without the you know, the
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Speaker 2: come down the next day or feeling a bit of
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Speaker 2: a crash or whatever. So I'm not gonna I'm definitely
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Speaker 2: not gonna like bash caffeine or you know. If people
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Speaker 2: are regular coffee drinkers, I'm not telling them to stop.
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Speaker 2: It's just that my approach is that coffee is one
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Speaker 2: of many different performance enhancing substances that I've leveraged into
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Speaker 2: my wellness regime.
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Speaker 1: All right, do's and don'ts for people, And again, remember everyone,
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Speaker 1: these are not personal recommendations. This is not a prescription.
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Speaker 1: There's two bullf heads on a podcast chatting, one bullf
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Speaker 1: ed and one by a hapa. So again, this is
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Speaker 1: just your thoughts, mate. But so I'm full disclosure. I
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Speaker 1: have two a day. I have one in the morning,
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Speaker 1: then I have one around I don't know, one o'clock. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So what are your general thoughts for the average punter
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Speaker 1: out there who drinks coffee every day? Have you got
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Speaker 1: any doos and don'ts?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean if we look at the look at
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Speaker 2: the literature, I mean, two to three cups of coffee
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Speaker 2: a day isn't really going to be problematic for majority
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Speaker 2: of the population, particularly if you look at the beneficial
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Speaker 2: effects in the long run, like protecting against liver disease
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Speaker 2: and alzheimer and Parkinson's things like that. It's actually got
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Speaker 2: some benefits dos and don't. Well, I would say, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're going to be going to bed at around
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Speaker 2: ten pm at night, you really want to cut back
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Speaker 2: on your caffeine intake after three o'clock or so to
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Speaker 2: three pm, because it's just going to impair your sleep.
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Speaker 2: Having said that, there is actually some this is nifty
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Speaker 2: and pretty knowledge that this is somewhat new information. I
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Speaker 2: doubt any one of your listeners has heard of this,
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Speaker 2: But there's actually a there's actually a particular herb that
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Speaker 2: can accelerate caffeine excretion from the body, and I can
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Speaker 2: do it very very effectively. It's called router carpene. Router carpene. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that one there is known to accelerate caffeine excretion. So
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Speaker 2: there's some companies that have like the anti caffeine pill,
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Speaker 2: which basically you take that at around six seven, eight
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Speaker 2: pm at night and will start to accelerate caffeine excretion
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Speaker 2: so that you can fall asleep like just like normal.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, all right, what about just before we leave caffeine,
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Speaker 1: two quick ones one Like, depending on the coffee you have,
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Speaker 1: it could have forty milligrams of caffeine or one hundred
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Speaker 1: milligrams of caffeine. Right, So, any thoughts on that, Like,
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Speaker 1: what is it for the average punter who goes and
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Speaker 1: gets a cappuccino in the morning, a takeaway cappuccino while
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Speaker 1: they're heading to the train of the car or work.
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Speaker 1: How many milligrams of coffee does that have?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I can range from anywhere from like eighty to
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty milligrams really depending upon the Yeah, right.
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Speaker 1: Right, Also next question and then we'll maybe not tea.
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Speaker 1: I drink tea. I drink English breakfast tea. I probably
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Speaker 1: have two of those a day, and two coffees. But
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to do anything to me in terms
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Speaker 1: of like I don't personally whether or not it's just
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Speaker 1: my physiology, but I don't seem to get I mean,
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Speaker 1: I enjoy a cup of tea, right, but it doesn't
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Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to me to be any kind of
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Speaker 1: stimulant or cognitive or energetic impact.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's unique about tea versus coffee is that
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Speaker 2: tea contains some chemical constituents that a lot of the
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Speaker 2: time can actually balance out the stimulatory effects of caffeine. So,
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Speaker 2: for example, if you're talking about you're saying, like English
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Speaker 2: breakfast tea or green tea.
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Speaker 1: Just just your old jiggle and dangle with a little
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Speaker 1: bit of skin mill come a fucking excitement.
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Speaker 2: Well, for example, if we look at we look at
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Speaker 2: I mean English breakfast tea, it's probably what's happening is
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Speaker 2: there's a few compounds in there that probably balances out
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Speaker 2: the way in which caffeine interacts with certain receptors. And
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Speaker 2: some of those constitution so probably not even that well
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Speaker 2: discovered or understood yet, but they probably have some what
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Speaker 2: we call inhibitory effects on the brain. So caffeine is excitatory,
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Speaker 2: and then there's constituents that are inhibitory. It probably has
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Speaker 2: some inhibitory properties, right.
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Speaker 1: All right, last one on caffeine. I've spent far too
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Speaker 1: long in it. But everyone knows that, understands it. Nearly
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Speaker 1: everyone drinks it. Did I see on money or I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure about this, so we might cut this out
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Speaker 1: of the chat. But did I see you talking about
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Speaker 1: caffeine and brown fat? Did I see that? Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 1: can you fill us in on that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for the audience wanting to know more about
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Speaker 2: what the heck brown fat is, well, brown fat is
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Speaker 2: actually a good type of fat that like we as
16:53
Speaker 2: adults actually have on our bodies. We have a lot
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Speaker 2: more of it when we're when we're a little kid,
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Speaker 2: you know, when we're on out of the edge of two.
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Speaker 2: But this caffeine has been shown to increase this brown
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Speaker 2: adipose tissue, which is brown fat, and that basically increases
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Speaker 2: your daily caloric burn. So anything that increases brown fat
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Speaker 2: is a good thing. Another thing that does that is
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Speaker 2: jumping into a cold shower, doing an ice bath. There's
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Speaker 2: even some other herbs that can activate brown adipose tissue.
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Speaker 2: But in general, it's actually a good thing, and brown
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Speaker 2: fat actually reduces one's risk of various metabolic diseases. There's
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Speaker 2: actually a good thing.
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Speaker 1: And the next question is going to not be specifically
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Speaker 1: relevant to around seventy percent of our audience, but maybe
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Speaker 1: that same seventy percent will find it very interesting icing
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Speaker 1: one's testicles, or as you call it in one of
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Speaker 1: your reels, icing your balls and you're sitting there with
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Speaker 1: another dude or dude's talking about putting your balls in
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Speaker 1: ice cold water. Fuck. Yeah, that could be the title
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Speaker 1: of the show, I Seeing your Balls. Why would one
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Speaker 1: not this one, not this one who hosts this show, wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: But why would one want to put one's testicles in
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Speaker 1: ice water?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this is probably something that I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: well known for. They call me the ice over balls guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great, Great, when you get a gig on TV,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to look for that little title at the
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Speaker 1: bottom of the screen.
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Speaker 2: Love it, love it? Well, all right, if we look
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Speaker 2: at the if we look at the practice, and why
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Speaker 2: the heck would a guy even consider doing this? Well,
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Speaker 2: Number one fertility enhancement without a doubt, Icing the testes,
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Speaker 2: cooling the testes doesn't even need to be icing, But
18:43
Speaker 2: applying ice to the underwear actually drops the temperature of
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Speaker 2: the testes. And there's a reason why the test is
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Speaker 2: hang outside the body, like there's a reason why it's
18:51
Speaker 2: supposed to hang outside the body's bit because it's I
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Speaker 2: don't know.
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Speaker 1: Why it's funny, but when you say that that's funny,
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Speaker 1: I'm like a fucking twelve year old sometime. Sorry, keep going.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you look at what happens is when when
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Speaker 2: the testes are actually when they heat up. What that
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Speaker 2: causes called it causes heat stress to the testes. Anytime
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Speaker 2: the testes get too hot or too warm, it severely
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Speaker 2: affects their functioning, which includes sperm cell production and also
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Speaker 2: testosterone production. So if we look at the modern man,
19:26
Speaker 2: like most men wake up, put on some tight underwear,
19:30
Speaker 2: go to work, drive, drive the car, go to work,
19:32
Speaker 2: heated seats in the car, you know these, And then
19:37
Speaker 2: they get to work, they've got their laptop. Sometimes men
19:40
Speaker 2: sit with the laptop on their lap, which is even
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Speaker 2: worse because then you've got the EMF cooking your balls.
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Speaker 2: Double double whammy there.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm never turning on my heated seating. I've actually
19:55
Speaker 1: got a heated seat up one of my motorbikes, which
19:58
Speaker 1: is like just the most unnecessary luxury than anyone needs.
20:01
Speaker 1: But I'm not using that bitch ever. Again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, I mean so if we look at that,
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's definitely going to be having a negative effect.
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Speaker 2: And then basically what happens is what we've seen, and
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Speaker 2: I've seen blood work from guys before and after, and
20:18
Speaker 2: I bear in mind, this is literally my occupation as
20:22
Speaker 2: a naturopath. I regularly look at blood work. I regularly
20:25
Speaker 2: look at testosterone vitamins. And I've seen what happens when
20:30
Speaker 2: a guy applies us to his balls five to ten
20:34
Speaker 2: minutes a day, two to three times a day.
20:37
Speaker 1: Do you just describe how one does that? Like? Am
20:39
Speaker 1: I lying on my back with my legs in the
20:42
Speaker 1: air getting my partner to rub my testicles with ice?
20:45
Speaker 1: Is that what's going on? If I had a partner,
20:48
Speaker 1: or am I just am I straddling some kind of
20:50
Speaker 1: apparatus and dipping them in a little ball?
20:53
Speaker 2: What's well, Fortunately, a lot of companies have caught on this,
21:01
Speaker 2: this biack, and there's actually specific ice pack ice packs
21:05
Speaker 2: that are designed to cup the testes, so that actually basically,
21:11
Speaker 2: if you're sitting down, I'll just sort of cooper around
21:15
Speaker 2: the the you know, hug hug the testes. It's the
21:19
Speaker 2: jet pack ice pack is the one that's doing pretty
21:21
Speaker 2: well at the moment.
21:23
Speaker 1: Great jet pack we have, well, I have no affiliation.
21:27
Speaker 1: I'm sure Lucas doesn't. The jet pack ice pack, Okay.
21:32
Speaker 2: And then there's also there's also there's also a specific
21:36
Speaker 2: type of under So what happens is wearing polyester underwear
21:41
Speaker 2: as well literally causes infertility. There's there's there's actually studies
21:46
Speaker 2: done in the nineteen nineties that shows that polyester underwear,
21:52
Speaker 2: you know that, you know, when you take off clothes
21:53
Speaker 2: and it causes the static shocks you.
21:56
Speaker 1: Know, electricity.
21:57
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that same thing happens when you wear poly
22:00
Speaker 2: particularly if you've got hairy balls. Yeah, shout out to
22:04
Speaker 2: the hairy ball brethren.
22:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all leaning in right now and leaning back on.
22:10
Speaker 1: Oh my god, fast forward, fast forward.
22:15
Speaker 2: That polyester underwear actually creates that static shock as well.
22:21
Speaker 1: Best show ever, Best show ever. Okay, and so my
22:27
Speaker 1: last question on this, ladies, you'll be relieved. So if
22:31
Speaker 1: I you know, if somebody does that protocol, does that
22:36
Speaker 1: increase testosterone production or does it just stop the lowering
22:41
Speaker 1: of testosterone?
22:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is where there's quite a bit of
22:45
Speaker 2: debate around whether or not actually has a stimulatory effect
22:49
Speaker 2: on baseline testosterone. Like I said before, I've seen enough
22:53
Speaker 2: blood test results to verify that on average, most guys
22:58
Speaker 2: will see between eighty to one hundred and fifty nanogram
23:01
Speaker 2: peredest letter increased in testosterone levels after about ten to
23:04
Speaker 2: twelve weeks of icing, which is it's pretty significant when
23:08
Speaker 2: you look at it from like the average Joe Blow,
23:10
Speaker 2: whose testosterone levels are pretty shit to begin with, like
23:13
Speaker 2: around three hundred four hundred for most guys, and then
23:17
Speaker 2: it's bringing it back up into you know, maybe like
23:19
Speaker 2: five hundred six hundred, which is definitely better than where
23:22
Speaker 2: it was before.
23:24
Speaker 1: So okay, so mate, an increase of kind of what
23:27
Speaker 1: did you say, eighty two hundred and twenty nanograms per
23:29
Speaker 1: DESO letter.
23:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, on average what I've seen after about twelve weeks
23:34
Speaker 2: and and.
23:34
Speaker 1: Back in the old days, back in the old days
23:36
Speaker 1: when you were just a thought in your mum and
23:38
Speaker 1: dad's eyes, So like fifty years ago, wasn't the average
23:43
Speaker 1: dude somewhere up around one thousand? Yeah?
23:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's happened is the reference range now for
23:50
Speaker 2: in today's society, they've actually reduced that reference range because
23:54
Speaker 2: the average is so low. But if you can there's
23:57
Speaker 2: a quote that I say, which is you're not the
23:59
Speaker 2: man you're grandfather was, which is it's just true like
24:03
Speaker 2: you look at men today, isn't it funny?
24:05
Speaker 1: Like we know that once a guy gets to a
24:08
Speaker 1: certain level that it's actually has a you know, a
24:15
Speaker 1: negative impact on a bunch of stuff. So what they've
24:19
Speaker 1: done is they've just moved the normal range down despite
24:23
Speaker 1: the new normal being fucking way less than optimal and
24:27
Speaker 1: also being like the new normal is not healthy. No, no,
24:32
Speaker 1: but but you know, technically they're right because it is normal.
24:36
Speaker 1: But as we've spoken about with David Gillespie, who you
24:40
Speaker 1: may or may not know, in a couple of others,
24:42
Speaker 1: doctor Denise Vaness, who's a geneticist about palates and all
24:47
Speaker 1: of those things that you understand better than I do,
24:49
Speaker 1: the impact of you know, plastics and lots of other
24:53
Speaker 1: you know, seed oils according to David Gillespie, and a
24:56
Speaker 1: bunch of other things, like we're doing a lot of
24:58
Speaker 1: shit us guys are doing, and a lot of shit
25:00
Speaker 1: that's kind of fucking us up from a hormonal perspective
25:05
Speaker 1: without even knowing it. Right.
25:07
Speaker 2: Oh, that's like a really critical, really critical piece of
25:12
Speaker 2: what I try to educate. I've actually because TRT is
25:16
Speaker 2: on the rise, I actually developed, like I developed a course.
25:22
Speaker 1: Tell people what that is? Made you and I know
25:24
Speaker 1: what it is, but what is it?
25:26
Speaker 2: TRT Testosterone replacement therapy. So basically what happens is if
25:30
Speaker 2: you go to your GP in Australia. If you're a
25:34
Speaker 2: guy and your testosterone levels is really low according to
25:38
Speaker 2: a blood test, like I mean less than one hundred
25:40
Speaker 2: and eighty I think it is, that that's the cutoff ringe.
25:43
Speaker 2: Then you qualify for the ability to go on testosterone
25:46
Speaker 2: replacement therapy. And that basically means that you're substituting the
25:50
Speaker 2: hormone that your body is supposed to be making, but
25:52
Speaker 2: you're just not making it. So then instead what happens
25:54
Speaker 2: is they give you the hormone as a way to
25:59
Speaker 2: preserve functioning. What will happen is though when you get
26:02
Speaker 2: prescribed testosterone replacement therapy, it will significantly lower fertility. So
26:09
Speaker 2: testosterone is really powerful. It will suppress sperm production, not fully,
26:16
Speaker 2: but really powerfully. And this is a risk that men
26:19
Speaker 2: need to be aware of, particularly the younger men. So
26:21
Speaker 2: it's the young guys between twenty five and thirty five
26:24
Speaker 2: who haven't had kids yet, Like, they've got to be
26:27
Speaker 2: really careful with that.
26:29
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's we're trying to trying to skip through them.
26:34
Speaker 1: But okay, so let's say somebody's listening to this now
26:38
Speaker 1: and they are or they care about some like a
26:41
Speaker 1: dude who's somewhere in the twenty to forty range, who's
26:44
Speaker 1: still or any range really, but we're talking about typically
26:48
Speaker 1: people that might be wanting to become a dad. What's
26:54
Speaker 1: three or four kind of no brain of things that
26:57
Speaker 1: they can so I think they're balls. Not drinking out
27:01
Speaker 1: of plastic bottles anything else on that list. Mate.
27:05
Speaker 2: Some sunlight exposure like going outside to the sun without sunscreen,
27:10
Speaker 2: obviously within reason, but don't don't be afraid. Don't be
27:14
Speaker 2: afraid of getting actual sunlight exposure, like chest exposure to
27:18
Speaker 2: the sun literally increases testosterone. Really yeah, yeah.
27:24
Speaker 1: If anyone sees me just up and down Hampton from
27:28
Speaker 1: a big pecs on display, I'm not being a dickhead.
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, get a sniffy. What
27:33
Speaker 1: can I say.
27:35
Speaker 2: You've got a medical certificate, you just say.
27:38
Speaker 1: Just say, I'm not Yeah, this is Luca, this is prescription.
27:43
Speaker 1: This is prescription, all right. I tell you something that
27:48
Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on. I've been a very I've
27:52
Speaker 1: been terrible at supplementing over the years, and unlike you,
27:57
Speaker 1: not very methodical very you know, I've been probably a
28:00
Speaker 1: little bit more methodical and strategic than the average punter.
28:06
Speaker 1: But if you're a ten out of ten on the
28:09
Speaker 1: you know, using your brain and being very strategic, methodical
28:12
Speaker 1: and using research as your guide, you're a ten, and
28:15
Speaker 1: the average punters are one or two. I'm probably a
28:18
Speaker 1: four or five in that. But one thing that I
28:22
Speaker 1: have done consistently, like the only supplement that I take
28:25
Speaker 1: at the moments, and I've been doing it every day
28:27
Speaker 1: for about and you'll probably tell me not to do
28:31
Speaker 1: it every day, but anyway, I've been doing five about
28:35
Speaker 1: five grams a day is just credit team, which is
28:37
Speaker 1: not going to be a big surprise to you. Maybe
28:39
Speaker 1: five to ten. But and this is again everyone, not
28:44
Speaker 1: a not a prescription for anyone. It's just a personal story.
28:49
Speaker 1: But I felt like towards the end of last year,
28:55
Speaker 1: so five months ago, so I felt like I was
28:58
Speaker 1: almost had low level chronic tigue. And I don't know
29:02
Speaker 1: if this is correlated a lot, but my energy is better,
29:05
Speaker 1: my cognitive function is better. I train better now. I
29:11
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think any of that's placebo because
29:14
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't doing it expect I
29:17
Speaker 1: was just thinking, ah, because I get I get shout
29:21
Speaker 1: out to Max's who are very generous to me. I
29:24
Speaker 1: get all this shit for free, right, and I'm like, ah, anyway,
29:29
Speaker 1: thoughts on creatine. For me, it seems to be working.
29:32
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's my brain or the product,
29:34
Speaker 1: but Buck, I don't care. Whatever I'm doing is working,
29:37
Speaker 1: so I'm going to keep doing that. What are your thoughts?
29:40
Speaker 2: Creatine definitely works. It's probably one of the most well
29:45
Speaker 2: studied ergogenic aids. It's funny because if you look at
29:48
Speaker 2: that word ergogenic, that's literally, you know, one of my
29:51
Speaker 2: Instagram hand or ergogenic health. And so if you like
29:55
Speaker 2: Creatine's new research is mostly centered around brain like brain health,
30:02
Speaker 2: and like, if you do a search on PubMed, you'll
30:04
Speaker 2: see plenty of studies backing even like as low as
30:08
Speaker 2: one to two grams per day supplemental. Are you going
30:11
Speaker 2: to get much more benefit if you're taking five grams
30:14
Speaker 2: for athletic performance and muscle growth and stuff. Yeah, but yeah,
30:17
Speaker 2: creatine is the real deal.
30:20
Speaker 1: People get a bit hysterical. I'm not sure. Does ergogenic
30:24
Speaker 1: just kind of mean performance enhancing?
30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, any any technique or substance used to enhance performance.
30:31
Speaker 1: People get hysterical about that. Idea, And I'm like, until
30:34
Speaker 1: you tell them that, I'll guess what else is performance enhancing? Water?
30:38
Speaker 2: Yeah?
30:38
Speaker 1: Sleep, meditation, you know, like protein. You know it's like, ah,
30:46
Speaker 1: so turn down the hysteria. You know what else is
30:50
Speaker 1: performance enhancing training? Oh? Okay, you know what else? Ice bars, recovery,
30:54
Speaker 1: so breathwork. So the biggest peptide of twenty twenty four
31:04
Speaker 1: as announced the other day by you. I don't know
31:07
Speaker 1: if you just did like a snapshot or you've done
31:09
Speaker 1: a deep dive, but I think it's called I'm probably
31:13
Speaker 1: going to fuck this up. I never heard of it
31:15
Speaker 1: till you told me the other day, without knowing that
31:18
Speaker 1: you told me Die Luccene yep, yep. Is that what
31:23
Speaker 1: I've never I mean, I've never heard of that? Is that?
31:27
Speaker 1: Have we known about that for a long time? Or
31:29
Speaker 1: is that a recent discovery or is the process?
31:34
Speaker 2: Well let's let's let's frame it. So, first of all,
31:37
Speaker 2: maxes that that creed. They let's have a look at
31:40
Speaker 2: protein powder. Right, Let's say you've got Maxi's protein powder.
31:43
Speaker 2: If you look at the label on Max's protein powder,
31:46
Speaker 2: they'll have a whole amino acid breakdown and they'll have
31:50
Speaker 2: without a doubt they'll have lucine in there, and lucine
31:54
Speaker 2: is actually part of what we call the BCAA family.
31:58
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So lou've scene has a lot of research
32:03
Speaker 2: to back its use for stimulating m tore, which is
32:07
Speaker 2: a mealian target of wrapromycin, which is like a trigger
32:10
Speaker 2: for protein synthesis. Leucine has been studied heavily. But there's
32:15
Speaker 2: a new form of leucine which is actually two loucine
32:19
Speaker 2: molecules bound together, called dilucine, which creates a peptide. Because
32:24
Speaker 2: a peptide technically is two to fifty amino acid like
32:28
Speaker 2: just has to be two or above, and so dilucine
32:32
Speaker 2: can be used orally in supplemental form, and it does
32:38
Speaker 2: appear to increase muscle protein synthesis for more than free
32:43
Speaker 2: leucine does. So if leucine is the trigger for protein synthesis,
32:50
Speaker 2: one of the main triggers in way protein, then could
32:54
Speaker 2: you imagine if you add dileucine, which outperforms loucine to
32:58
Speaker 2: a protein powder. You can just imagine the animalolic response
33:02
Speaker 2: that you could get from that.
33:04
Speaker 1: Wow, Max's are you paying attention? That would be good?
33:10
Speaker 1: That would be good?
33:11
Speaker 2: All right?
33:12
Speaker 1: Let's go again on this is very broad in general,
33:16
Speaker 1: and this is zooming out to the macro and zooming
33:19
Speaker 1: away from the micro for a minute. And I'm sure
33:23
Speaker 1: you and I could talk about this for a long time,
33:25
Speaker 1: but let's give it a minute or two, because it's
33:27
Speaker 1: something that everyone does know and understand. Fiber is the
33:33
Speaker 1: I think we used to get told something like we
33:36
Speaker 1: need forty grams of fiber a day for bowel health
33:39
Speaker 1: or but then you have people who have essentially no
33:42
Speaker 1: fiber and just live on meat and don't seem to
33:45
Speaker 1: die of constipation. Tell us about your thoughts and recommendations
33:51
Speaker 1: on fiber.
33:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as a naturopath, if I said publicly that
33:59
Speaker 2: we don't need fiber, I would probably get a million
34:03
Speaker 2: letters from other naturopaths saying like, what are you doing?
34:05
Speaker 2: Like you're supposed to be a naturopath. You're supposed to
34:07
Speaker 2: support the gut health of all humans across the world.
34:10
Speaker 2: Because every single realistically, every single subject that we studied,
34:16
Speaker 2: every single lectra used to come back and say it
34:18
Speaker 2: all comes back to gut health, Like it's all about
34:21
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at the quality of their
34:22
Speaker 2: poop and if it's not good. Then there's something wrong, right,
34:25
Speaker 2: all right? So where does that leave fiber? I personally
34:30
Speaker 2: do see a time and place and a pretty significant
34:34
Speaker 2: importance for fiber intake for humans. The reasons that I
34:40
Speaker 2: think it's important is probably not what the average person
34:43
Speaker 2: thinks it's important for. But I personally know that fiber
34:47
Speaker 2: can stimulate hormones in the gut that control society and
34:54
Speaker 2: can help to regulate insulin resistance and all that sort
34:57
Speaker 2: of stuff. So in my opinion, and as one particular
35:00
Speaker 2: fiber that I literally add to my protein powder pretty
35:04
Speaker 2: much every single day is called partially hydrolyzed guagum PHGG
35:11
Speaker 2: and that's like fully soluble like mixes. Well, there's no
35:14
Speaker 2: taste whatsoever, And it's literally one of the best fibers
35:18
Speaker 2: for not only reversing IBSC but also IBSD so constumpation
35:25
Speaker 2: and diarrhea.
35:26
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So fiber has an impact on leptin production
35:33
Speaker 1: or grain or both? It does both both? Wow? Wow,
35:37
Speaker 1: that's fucking fascinating. All right, let's keep going. So a
35:42
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about N m N, which
35:46
Speaker 1: will a lot of people call em M M N
35:50
Speaker 1: Finelle M for Michael N. Finelle As my mother would say, well,
35:55
Speaker 1: the fuck is n m N and do we need it?
35:59
Speaker 2: Okay? NIMN stands for nicotinamide mono nucleotide and it's basically, yeah,
36:06
Speaker 2: that's very basic. Hopefully that that's why that's what we
36:09
Speaker 2: call it.
36:09
Speaker 1: Men. Yeah, that doesn't test me on that at the
36:13
Speaker 1: end I will fail. Yep.
36:15
Speaker 2: So, nicotinamide mononucleotide is basically helps with the synthesis of ATP.
36:22
Speaker 2: So it helps to facilitate the conversion of carbohydrates into
36:28
Speaker 2: the body's main energy currency, which is ATP. So it's
36:31
Speaker 2: very similar to creating. Now, if we look at what
36:35
Speaker 2: happens when humans take enimen in capsule form, because of
36:40
Speaker 2: course we can. We can. We can find this animen
36:45
Speaker 2: in foods like there's taki, mushrooms, broccoli, cabbage, like these
36:50
Speaker 2: are foods that are contain quite high amounts of NIMN.
36:54
Speaker 2: But what happens if you if you supplement with the
36:56
Speaker 2: with this, it switches on long jer genes, so it
37:01
Speaker 2: turns on longevity genes, and it helps to improve overall
37:05
Speaker 2: metabolic health such as reductions in seriactive protein, improvements in
37:11
Speaker 2: insulin sensitivity, reductions in fasting blood sugar levels, improvements of
37:17
Speaker 2: cholesterol parameters. And if we look at like what what
37:20
Speaker 2: a let's say a person has what I call is
37:23
Speaker 2: a virgin to anemen. They've never used it before, and
37:27
Speaker 2: they take a high quality ANEMEN and they use it
37:30
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Most people report improvements in
37:34
Speaker 2: general energy, like general energy and that's like very very
37:40
Speaker 2: minimal side effects. Like yeah, so it's a it's got
37:44
Speaker 2: a great safety profile and its completely it's probably worth
37:49
Speaker 2: that NIMAN supplement in space probably worth over one hundred
37:52
Speaker 2: it's probably worth over I don't know, seven hundred million
37:55
Speaker 2: dollars in the US, that's my guess.
37:58
Speaker 1: Wow. And so somebody like me, who I'm an an
38:03
Speaker 1: MM virgin That could also be the title of the
38:06
Speaker 1: show what. And again this is just this is not
38:11
Speaker 1: a prescription because you've done no blood work and all that.
38:13
Speaker 1: But what is an indicative kind of dose that I
38:16
Speaker 1: would start on?
38:18
Speaker 2: So as a beginner, I would start on five hundred
38:22
Speaker 2: milligrams of venomen in.
38:24
Speaker 1: The morning, right and just once a.
38:26
Speaker 2: Day, yep, Well, just just to start with and then
38:30
Speaker 2: gauging how you respond if your sleep's affected or whatever,
38:34
Speaker 2: then yeah, just you can go up to a gram
38:36
Speaker 2: that's fine.
38:38
Speaker 1: Now another supplement that a lot of people take. This
38:41
Speaker 1: is great, by the way, I love just banging questions
38:43
Speaker 1: at you. Another supplement that a lot of people take,
38:48
Speaker 1: by the way, Lucas's instagram is ergagetic underscore health, ergogenic
38:53
Speaker 1: underscore health, and his business has boost a biology. So
38:57
Speaker 1: get the fuck on board the Lucas train. A lot
39:00
Speaker 1: of people takeesium. Yep. But also I heard you say
39:05
Speaker 1: that potentially some people wake up groggy and a little
39:12
Speaker 1: bit lethargic as a consequence. Not everyone, of course, but
39:15
Speaker 1: it has the potential to do that. Just unpack that
39:18
Speaker 1: if you would.
39:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this comes back to a really important principle
39:23
Speaker 2: when we're looking at different supplements, is that individual response.
39:26
Speaker 2: Like there's going to be fluctuations in how you respond
39:29
Speaker 2: versus how I respond, versus how Jack responds versus our
39:33
Speaker 2: Sarah response, like all that sort of stuff. So magnesium,
39:38
Speaker 2: if you have low baseline levels of cortisol and you're
39:42
Speaker 2: taking a whopping dose of magnesium before bed, it's definitely
39:46
Speaker 2: gonna shut you down and help you sleep. But sometimes
39:50
Speaker 2: what can happen is the magnesium still lingering in the
39:53
Speaker 2: body the following day, and that can make it a
39:56
Speaker 2: little bit difficult for people to wake up and just
39:58
Speaker 2: like bounce out of bed. So for example, if I
40:01
Speaker 2: take a big dose of magnesium, it's I want to
40:05
Speaker 2: hit the I want to hit snooze on the alarm
40:08
Speaker 2: clock because I'm just too relaxed.
40:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine that happening. I was thinking as
40:17
Speaker 1: you were talking about waking up lethargic, something else that
40:23
Speaker 1: people use to sleep. And no, no, I don't even
40:29
Speaker 1: know if you know anything about what. I'm sure you
40:31
Speaker 1: fucking do because you're you cbe d oil. Now this
40:36
Speaker 1: is a left turn in the conversation. I know, I
40:38
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's in your wheelhouse, but I'm
40:41
Speaker 1: sure you have some thoughts on it. CBD oil, of
40:44
Speaker 1: course everyone is from the hemp plant. Is that the
40:48
Speaker 1: right or marijuana? But it's the non psychoactive component. Yeah,
40:54
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that?
40:55
Speaker 2: All right? So I can talk pretty extensively about CBD
40:58
Speaker 2: because I actually volunteer myself in a clinical study to
41:02
Speaker 2: be a participant to receive a whopping dose of CBD
41:08
Speaker 2: four hundred milligrams. This was about five years five years
41:13
Speaker 2: ago now, so basically what they were doing as well
41:16
Speaker 2: they're wanting to assess pharmacokinetic and safety study of CBD
41:23
Speaker 2: in healthy humans. It depends to define healthy humans and
41:29
Speaker 2: basically what they wanted to see was the dosage escalation
41:33
Speaker 2: and so CBD, even though people say that it's not psychoactive,
41:40
Speaker 2: it's still having a calming effect and it shuts that
41:43
Speaker 2: it will slow down. It can have calming properties and
41:48
Speaker 2: anti stress properties. And in that study, when I was
41:52
Speaker 2: when I received that massive dose, I was like very
41:58
Speaker 2: very groggy and very very related. It was a big
42:00
Speaker 2: dot like you're going to get that effect when you're
42:02
Speaker 2: taking a big dose. But it really relaxed me a lot,
42:06
Speaker 2: Like an I.
42:07
Speaker 1: Half life of that stuff? Mate, give or take up
42:11
Speaker 1: the top of your Head's like, how I throw him
42:14
Speaker 1: under the bus? Everyone.
42:16
Speaker 2: It's probably not that long because even though it's fat solid,
42:21
Speaker 2: was probably around I don't know, six hours or so, right, Actually,
42:27
Speaker 2: I don't know. It could be it could be quite long.
42:29
Speaker 2: Depends depends on the product. But it most people to
42:35
Speaker 2: put into perspective, they're using five to ten, five to
42:40
Speaker 2: ten milligrams. I had four hundred.
42:43
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah wow, so you had eighty times five
42:47
Speaker 1: milligrams yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy. All right, we're on
42:51
Speaker 1: the home straight. I'm giving you a nine out of ten.
42:54
Speaker 1: So far, well done. Like you need some fucking evaluation
42:58
Speaker 1: for me. Ah. So I heard you talking about everyone's
43:03
Speaker 1: fascinated with not everyone, but a lot of people are
43:06
Speaker 1: interested in fat loss. And I heard you talking about
43:09
Speaker 1: something called nut grass, which I actually have. I never
43:13
Speaker 1: even heard of it. If somebody asked me, I'd go, fuck,
43:16
Speaker 1: I don't know, go and ask Lucas what is it
43:20
Speaker 1: and what does that allegedly do?
43:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a particular website that I was really
43:28
Speaker 2: fascinated by when it comes to like understanding different supplements
43:31
Speaker 2: and things like that. So not grass does contain a
43:36
Speaker 2: few constituents that have anti obesity properties. Now this is
43:41
Speaker 2: the same for we could look at I would say,
43:45
Speaker 2: what's a good fat loss ingredient that your audience would know,
43:48
Speaker 2: Like carnitine, Oh, carnatine is one, Like garcinia. Cambogia's probably
43:55
Speaker 2: another one your audience would know about, which basically blocks
43:58
Speaker 2: fat absorption in the small testine. But if you look
44:01
Speaker 2: at if you look at a lot of these different
44:03
Speaker 2: herbal medicines, for example, like what they do is. Some
44:07
Speaker 2: of them will work by number one, either mimicking insulin
44:11
Speaker 2: in the body, which is which is a good thing.
44:13
Speaker 2: Number two, they will either block fat absorption by the
44:18
Speaker 2: small intestine, so like literally like a fat blocker, or
44:24
Speaker 2: they might also improve caloric burn at rest, so even
44:30
Speaker 2: at rest they increase your what we call net energy expenditure.
44:36
Speaker 2: And this particular nut grass does have some pretty cool
44:40
Speaker 2: preliminary research at least in rodents that it can affect lepturn,
44:46
Speaker 2: it can lower leptn, lower cordico steroids, decrease lipids, and
44:52
Speaker 2: results in improvements in body composition. So this is just
44:56
Speaker 2: one of the many different ingredients. Another one would be
44:59
Speaker 2: fuk x anthem, which is a particular seaweed that are
45:03
Speaker 2: some good effects. But as with most supplements, I'd say
45:08
Speaker 2: it's just the icing on the cake. So make sure
45:10
Speaker 2: you're doing your cardio, eating well, you know, all that
45:13
Speaker 2: sort of stuff.
45:14
Speaker 1: It's not a standalone solution. And it's also I mean
45:18
Speaker 1: also it's interesting I was talking to I've spoken about
45:23
Speaker 1: this before. I was talking the other day to a
45:28
Speaker 1: guy who's dealing with an ongoing kind of permanent His
45:34
Speaker 1: name is Terry. I'll give a shout out to Terry,
45:39
Speaker 1: and he had a bunch of brain operations. And I'd
45:43
Speaker 1: probably better not say how much of a particular drug
45:46
Speaker 1: that I used once, right for a prescribed drug for
45:51
Speaker 1: neural pain. Right now, The amount that I took was,
45:56
Speaker 1: I took one pill and I literally hallucinated. I took
46:03
Speaker 1: one tablet. I've never taken it before. And I was
46:05
Speaker 1: sitting in my office Lucas, and I've got two whiteboards
46:09
Speaker 1: in here, and I was sitting in I've got these
46:10
Speaker 1: two big comfy leather chairs. I was in agony. I
46:13
Speaker 1: had this fucked back bulging disks pressing on that I
46:16
Speaker 1: was in agony, right, and I took one of these drugs,
46:19
Speaker 1: which is for that kind of pain. And I literally
46:24
Speaker 1: was staring at the whiteboard, and the writing on my
46:26
Speaker 1: whiteboard slid off the whiteboard and slid down onto the wall.
46:31
Speaker 1: Right now, in my mind or in my eyes, I
46:34
Speaker 1: was looking at a clean whiteboard and writing all over
46:37
Speaker 1: the wall, which I knew wasn't real, like I simultaneously
46:42
Speaker 1: saw it, but knew it wasn't real. Anyway, I was
46:44
Speaker 1: telling him about this, and I told him what I take.
46:47
Speaker 1: Now he weighs about fifty or took. He weighs about
46:50
Speaker 1: fifteen kilos less than me. Every day, he takes eight
46:53
Speaker 1: times that every day. No hallucinating, No, And I'm like,
46:58
Speaker 1: the human body is what's my point? My point is
47:02
Speaker 1: that all of these things, whatever it is that we
47:05
Speaker 1: do to our body, whether it's put in a supplement
47:07
Speaker 1: or a drug, or we ice our balls, or we
47:09
Speaker 1: get in a fucking sauna, or we go for a
47:11
Speaker 1: run or we sleep, there's going to be unique physiological reactions.
47:17
Speaker 1: You know. There's there's very little absolute when it comes
47:21
Speaker 1: to this stuff. And the thing that will you know,
47:24
Speaker 1: someone can eat a handful of peanuts and they feel
47:27
Speaker 1: satisfied and great. Someone else has one peanut and they
47:30
Speaker 1: fucking die, you know, because of their unique physiology in
47:34
Speaker 1: response to that particular stimulus that happens to be a peanut.
47:37
Speaker 1: You know. So I think it's important that while we
47:41
Speaker 1: listen to all of these ideas, you know, I'm talking
47:45
Speaker 1: about from the listener's perspective now, that we do our
47:50
Speaker 1: own research, but also tread really carefully. I mean, I
47:54
Speaker 1: think there are some things that we know are for
47:56
Speaker 1: the most you know, if you want to introduce exercise
47:59
Speaker 1: into your life. That's probably not a high risk thing
48:01
Speaker 1: as long as you're not running a marathon two days
48:04
Speaker 1: after you start. But just also, you know that an
48:07
Speaker 1: equals one thing that I talk about a lot, lucas
48:10
Speaker 1: of just just doing a bit of trial and error
48:13
Speaker 1: and introducing who was I talking to the other day,
48:18
Speaker 1: doctor Bill what's his surname, great guy scientists from the States,
48:23
Speaker 1: and we're talking about this, and he said, yeah, let's
48:26
Speaker 1: let's change one thing. Let's see what your body does,
48:30
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Bill Sullivan. That's it. And then so
48:33
Speaker 1: rather than introducing five new things, because then we don't
48:36
Speaker 1: know what the fuck's going on. We don't know what's
48:39
Speaker 1: working and what's not.
48:40
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's that's that's critical because like there's
48:46
Speaker 2: so many different Like there's like I said before, with
48:48
Speaker 2: the individuality the response, and I think the main thing
48:53
Speaker 2: is like at least the more knowledge you get about
48:56
Speaker 2: your own physiology, the more you're empowered. And the more
48:59
Speaker 2: that you're empowered, the more you have control of your life.
49:02
Speaker 2: And like who doesn't want more control over the way
49:06
Speaker 2: that they show up in the world, you know, So
49:08
Speaker 2: definitely important important principles.
49:11
Speaker 1: All Right, I want to finish on two quick things.
49:15
Speaker 1: Probably not quick, but we could do a whole episode
49:18
Speaker 1: on it, but you probably don't want to. When I
49:19
Speaker 1: don't really ozen pic, which is like, I've never seen
49:24
Speaker 1: a drug get so much fucking press. I've never seen
49:28
Speaker 1: or maybe I have, but nothing springs to mind. What's
49:32
Speaker 1: your for? What it's what it's worth? I mean that respectfully,
49:36
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on ozeen pic, good, bad,
49:38
Speaker 1: or indifferent?
49:40
Speaker 2: So a zempic is a medication that's used to treat
49:44
Speaker 2: type two diabetes, so it helps a low of blood sugar,
49:46
Speaker 2: but it has some secondary effects of reducing body fat
49:51
Speaker 2: and muscle mass as well. So if we look at
49:56
Speaker 2: ozen pik, what it does is mimic the effects of
49:59
Speaker 2: GLP one, glucagon like peptide one, which has a really,
50:04
Speaker 2: to put it simply, irregulates appetite and it really super
50:09
Speaker 2: powerfully without being a stimulant. Because the previous drugs that
50:13
Speaker 2: we used to treat fat loss were central nervous system
50:17
Speaker 2: stimulants and they would increase heart rate and have all
50:19
Speaker 2: these sort of side effects. Thankfully, ozepic doesn't have those
50:23
Speaker 2: nasty stimulant properties, but it does have a pretty long
50:30
Speaker 2: half life in the sense that if you take it,
50:33
Speaker 2: you will notice that you'll look at food very differently,
50:37
Speaker 2: Like you'll look at food and almost be like disgusted
50:40
Speaker 2: by food. It will make you repelled by food. You
50:45
Speaker 2: won't be able to eat as much because it makes
50:47
Speaker 2: you feel full. It will cause something a side effect
50:50
Speaker 2: called gastroparesis, which is it will literally freeze the stomach
50:54
Speaker 2: so it doesn't move food through the stomach, which can
50:59
Speaker 2: be really dangerous.
51:00
Speaker 1: What do we call the motility? Do we call that that?
51:03
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, intestinal periscelsis, which is Look, I think we've
51:10
Speaker 2: got a lot of obese people in the world, Like
51:13
Speaker 2: and I'm not fat shaming or anything here, but like
51:16
Speaker 2: it's like it's a it is a global issue. Okay, Now,
51:22
Speaker 2: how do you get someone who's one hundred and fifty
51:24
Speaker 2: kilos to start walking ten thousand steps a day when
51:28
Speaker 2: it's when they're really struggling. So it's like, okay, well,
51:31
Speaker 2: is that when nozeenpic is beneficial? Maybe because it's going
51:35
Speaker 2: to get taken them from one hundred and fifty kilos
51:37
Speaker 2: down to like, I don't know, one hundred and ten
51:39
Speaker 2: kilos without without huge amount of effort. On the per
51:47
Speaker 2: It comes back to the effort side. People just don't
51:49
Speaker 2: want the effort. People want the shortcut. A zempi is
51:53
Speaker 2: going to provide that because it it will, but it
51:56
Speaker 2: comes to cost. You know, people are losing muscle mass
51:59
Speaker 2: as well, Like they're literally like dropping muscle mass, and
52:03
Speaker 2: that's not good as well.
52:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's finish on this. Do you do
52:12
Speaker 1: you eat fruit? Do you recommend people eat fruit? Just
52:17
Speaker 1: because I mean, there are some people that are like,
52:19
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about veggies everyone, I'm talking about fruit.
52:22
Speaker 1: What's your And again just an opinion, everyone, don't get
52:25
Speaker 1: your nickers in a nut.
52:27
Speaker 2: I eat as much fruit as I want. I do
52:30
Speaker 2: not have fruit concentrates and I do not have processed
52:34
Speaker 2: sugary fruit juices. I literally have blueberries, blackberries, raspberries all
52:40
Speaker 2: the time, apples, orange like, nothing wrong with fruit in
52:44
Speaker 2: my opinion.
52:45
Speaker 1: Great, So no peaches in a can for you, None
52:51
Speaker 1: of that for me. Mate. Tell people how they can
52:54
Speaker 1: find you, follow you, connect with you, and get you
52:57
Speaker 1: to come and work with their team and all of
52:59
Speaker 1: those things if they'd like to do that.
53:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can check out boost youoorbiology dot com. That's
53:05
Speaker 2: my website connected with me there and also YouTube as well. Yeah,
53:11
Speaker 2: since we last spoke that the channel's grown significantly and
53:13
Speaker 2: I'm trying to send a lot of traffic to the
53:15
Speaker 2: YouTube channel, which is also called boost Boost your Biology.
53:19
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations mate. What you're doing is you're putting out
53:23
Speaker 1: a lot of amazing content. And I'm not pissing in
53:25
Speaker 1: your pocket. Like I follow you, I read you every day.
53:28
Speaker 1: I'm excited every day to see what you're putting up.
53:31
Speaker 1: You've been teaching me without knowing it, and you know,
53:35
Speaker 1: thanks for what you're doing for everyone, and I appreciate
53:38
Speaker 1: I appreciate you on the new project again.
53:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me, Craig. It's always a pleasure
53:43
Speaker 2: to chat and I'm looking forward to the next one.
53:46
Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, man. You're good value too. You come
53:48
Speaker 1: at a right price, you know, So thanks everyone,