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Building an Online Presence: A Drummer's Path to Recognition · Music Explored Podcast

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  So
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  I
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  was
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  asking
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  you
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  off
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  mic,
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  what
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  other
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  instruments
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  do
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  you
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  play
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  besides
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  the
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  drums?
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  Yeah,
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  so
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  I
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  play
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  hand
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  percussion.
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  I
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  started
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  off,
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  actually
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  with
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  hand
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  percussion.
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  Started
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  off
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  Indian
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  percussion,
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  Latin
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  percussion,
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  and
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  played
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  violin
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  for,
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  like,
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  six
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  years
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  in
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  school
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  and
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  then
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  did,
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  like,
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  Indian
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  vocals
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  for
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  10
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  years
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  and
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  did
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  some
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  Western
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  vocals
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  for
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  some
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  years,
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  too.
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  But
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  I
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  would
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  say,
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  like,
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  drum
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  kid
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  is
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  my.
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  My
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  first
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  love
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  claim
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  to
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  fame.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  know.
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  We
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  just
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  kind
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  of
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  started
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  a
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  little
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  bit.
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  You
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  said
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  rogs,
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  right?
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  Formally
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  introduced
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  to
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  you.
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  And
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  we're
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  live.
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  So
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  who
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  are
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  you
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  before
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  we
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  do
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  that?
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  Yeah.
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  When
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  I
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  said
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  goat
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  earlier.
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  Yeah.
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  Getting
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  over
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  a
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  fear
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  of
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  talking.
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  Okay,
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  I'll
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  take
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  it.
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  I'll
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  take
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  it.
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  I'll
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  take
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  it.
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  Okay.
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  Clear
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  my
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  name.
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  You
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  are
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  the
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  goat.
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  Yeah.
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  Now
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  do
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  the
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  intro,
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  goat.
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  Still
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  getting
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  over
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  it.
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  But
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  ladies
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  and
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  gentlemen,
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  today
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  we
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  have
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  with
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  us.
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  Didn't
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  I
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  do
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  this
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  last
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  time,
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  too?
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  This
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  weird
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  voice
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  you
• 0:59
  might
• 1:00
  have.
• 1:00
  Let
• 1:00
  me
• 1:00
  just.
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  But
• 1:00
  it's
• 1:00
  okay.
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  It's
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  your
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  intro
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  voice.
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  I'm
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  just
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  happy.
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  I'm
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  happy.
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  Where's
• 1:03
  our.
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  With
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  this
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  Sarah?
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  We're
• 1:04
  sorry,
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  Sarah,
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  I
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  love
• 1:05
  it,
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  okay?
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  I'm
• 1:06
  digging
• 1:06
  it.
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  It's
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  all
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  just
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  one
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  street.
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  Sarah.
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  Sarah,
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  th.
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  Yeah.
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  Drummer
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  extraordinaire.
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  We
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  all
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  did
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  the
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  hand
• 1:16
  gestures,
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  but
• 1:17
  we
• 1:17
  didn't
• 1:17
  actually
• 1:17
  make
• 1:17
  it.
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  Yeah,
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  man,
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  you're
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  right.
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  Oh,
• 1:18
  yeah.
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  No
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  one
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  can
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  see
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  us.
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  I
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  forgot.
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  This
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  is
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  so
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  exciting.
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  I
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  almost
• 1:21
  want
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  to
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  say
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  the
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  end
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  so
• 1:22
  we
• 1:23
  could
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  listen
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  to
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  you
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  play
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  drum.
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  Just
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  cut
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  to
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  the
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  chase,
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  guys.
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  We'll
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  fill
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  it
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  in
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  with
• 1:28
  some
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  ads.
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  But
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  you
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  are
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  very,
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  very
• 1:31
  well
• 1:31
  known.
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  Yeah.
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  Everyone
• 1:34
  I
• 1:34
  told
• 1:34
  about
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  you,
• 1:35
  they
• 1:35
  were
• 1:35
  like.
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  Like,
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  their
• 1:36
  eyes.
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  Including
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  this.
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  And
• 1:37
  we've
• 1:37
  had
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  40
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  guests.
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  Yeah,
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  40
• 1:38
  guests.
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  And
• 1:39
  they
• 1:39
  are
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  like,
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  oh,
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  cool,
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  cool.
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  But
• 1:41
  Sarah
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  has.
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  It's
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  really.
• 1:43
  Matter
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  of
• 1:43
  fact,
• 1:44
  matter
• 1:44
  of
• 1:44
  fact,
• 1:45
  I
• 1:45
  told
• 1:45
  a
• 1:45
  couple,
• 1:46
  I
• 1:46
  told.
• 1:46
  Do
• 1:46
  you
• 1:46
  know
• 1:47
  Mike
• 1:47
  McNeil?
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  I
• 1:48
  don't
• 1:48
  think
• 1:48
  you've
• 1:48
  met
• 1:48
  him
• 1:48
  yet.
• 1:49
  He's
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  a
• 1:49
  keyboard
• 1:50
  player.
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  Great.
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  Super
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  good
• 1:51
  keyboard
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  player
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  on
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  the
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  city.
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  And
• 1:53
  he's
• 1:53
  apparently
• 1:54
  a
• 1:54
  super
• 1:54
  fan.
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  He
• 1:55
  wanted
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  to
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  come
• 1:56
  in,
• 1:56
  and
• 1:56
  he
• 1:56
  asked
• 1:56
  me
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  to
• 1:57
  get
• 1:57
  an
• 1:57
  autograph.
• 1:58
  Oh,
• 1:58
  come
• 1:58
  on.
• 1:59
  He's
• 1:59
  never
• 1:59
  asked
• 1:59
  any.
• 2:00
  I
• 2:00
  was
• 2:00
  asked
• 2:00
  to
• 2:00
  get
• 2:00
  anyone,
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  too.
• 2:01
  But
• 2:01
  I
• 2:01
  said
• 2:01
  no.
• 2:02
  He
• 2:02
  was
• 2:02
  like,
• 2:02
  I've
• 2:02
  met
• 2:02
  people
• 2:03
  like
• 2:03
  Ludacris
• 2:04
  because
• 2:04
  he's
• 2:04
  worked
• 2:04
  with
• 2:04
  a
• 2:04
  lot
• 2:04
  of
• 2:04
  artists,
• 2:05
  and
• 2:05
  he's
• 2:05
  open
• 2:05
  for,
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  like,
• 2:06
  bigger
• 2:06
  artists
• 2:06
  with
• 2:07
  these.
• 2:07
  You
• 2:07
  know
• 2:07
  how
• 2:08
  it
• 2:08
  goes.
• 2:08
  And
• 2:08
  he's
• 2:09
  like,
• 2:09
  I've
• 2:09
  never
• 2:09
  asked,
• 2:10
  but
• 2:10
  if
• 2:10
  you
• 2:10
  could
• 2:10
  get
• 2:10
  me
• 2:10
  something
• 2:11
  with
• 2:11
  your
• 2:12
  autograph.
• 2:12
  And
• 2:12
  I
• 2:12
  said,
• 2:13
  you're
• 2:13
  gonna
• 2:13
  give
• 2:13
  him
• 2:13
  a
• 2:13
  Shout
• 2:13
  out.
• 2:14
  So,
• 2:14
  Michael,
• 2:15
  here
• 2:15
  it
• 2:15
  goes.
• 2:16
  It's
• 2:16
  Michael
• 2:16
  O'
• 2:17
  Neal.
• 2:17
  Mike
• 2:17
  McNeil.
• 2:18
  88
• 2:18
  keys.
• 2:18
  88
• 2:19
  keys.
• 2:19
  Oh,
• 2:20
  then
• 2:20
  I
• 2:20
  think
• 2:20
  that
• 2:20
  sounds
• 2:21
  too
• 2:21
  familiar.
• 2:21
  Okay.
• 2:22
  And
• 2:22
  I
• 2:22
  think
• 2:22
  you
• 2:22
  should
• 2:22
  follow
• 2:23
  him
• 2:23
  on
• 2:23
  Instagram.
• 2:23
  Okay.
• 2:23
  I'm
• 2:24
  gonna
• 2:24
  follow
• 2:24
  you
• 2:24
  right
• 2:24
  now.
• 2:25
  88
• 2:25
  keys
• 2:26
  after
• 2:26
  this
• 2:26
  podcast.
• 2:27
  And
• 2:27
  it
• 2:27
  blows
• 2:27
  my
• 2:28
  mind
• 2:28
  that,
• 2:28
  like,
• 2:29
  when
• 2:29
  people
• 2:29
  tell
• 2:29
  me
• 2:29
  like,
• 2:29
  you're.
• 2:30
  You're
• 2:30
  well
• 2:30
  known,
• 2:31
  I'm
• 2:31
  like,
• 2:31
  really?
• 2:31
  Is
• 2:32
  he
• 2:32
  famous?
• 2:33
  I
• 2:33
  don't
• 2:33
  know.
• 2:33
  But
• 2:34
  it's
• 2:34
  fun.
• 2:34
  Yeah.
• 2:35
  Yeah.
• 2:35
  I
• 2:35
  mean,
• 2:36
  how
• 2:37
  did
• 2:37
  this
• 2:37
  happen?
• 2:37
  I
• 2:37
  guess
• 2:37
  that's
• 2:38
  a
• 2:38
  good
• 2:38
  place
• 2:38
  to
• 2:38
  start.
• 2:39
  Yeah.
• 2:39
  So
• 2:39
  you
• 2:39
  know
• 2:40
  what?
• 2:40
  My
• 2:40
  whole
• 2:40
  journey
• 2:41
  started
• 2:41
  at
• 2:41
  about
• 2:41
  2
• 2:42
  years
• 2:42
  old.
• 2:42
  My
• 2:42
  dad's
• 2:43
  a
• 2:43
  musician
• 2:43
  and
• 2:43
  we
• 2:43
  would
• 2:44
  have
• 2:44
  like
• 2:44
  drums
• 2:44
  and
• 2:44
  percussion
• 2:45
  laying
• 2:45
  around
• 2:45
  the
• 2:46
  house.
• 2:46
  And
• 2:46
  my
• 2:46
  dad
• 2:47
  was
• 2:47
  like
• 2:47
  a
• 2:47
  self
• 2:47
  taught
• 2:48
  drum.
• 2:48
  Not
• 2:48
  drummer,
• 2:49
  keyboard
• 2:49
  player.
• 2:50
  Right.
• 2:50
  Okay.
• 2:50
  And
• 2:51
  so
• 2:51
  his
• 2:51
  whole
• 2:51
  approach
• 2:52
  was
• 2:52
  like,
• 2:52
  listen
• 2:52
  to
• 2:53
  it
• 2:53
  and
• 2:53
  just
• 2:53
  kind
• 2:54
  feel
• 2:54
  it
• 2:54
  and
• 2:54
  play
• 2:54
  it.
• 2:54
  Right.
• 2:55
  So
• 2:55
  that
• 2:55
  was
• 2:55
  my
• 2:56
  growth.
• 2:56
  And
• 2:57
  then
• 2:57
  when
• 2:57
  I
• 2:57
  was
• 2:57
  18
• 2:58
  years
• 2:58
  old
• 2:58
  was
• 2:58
  when,
• 2:58
  okay,
• 2:58
  you
• 2:59
  know
• 2:59
  what?
• 2:59
  I'm
• 2:59
  gonna
• 2:59
  take
• 2:59
  this
• 2:59
  seriously
• 3:00
  and
• 3:00
  go
• 3:00
  to
• 3:00
  university
• 3:01
  for
• 3:01
  music.
• 3:01
  But
• 3:01
  up
• 3:02
  until
• 3:02
  then,
• 3:02
  I
• 3:02
  was
• 3:02
  really
• 3:02
  heavily
• 3:03
  in
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  Bollywood
• 3:03
  Indian
• 3:04
  scene.
• 3:04
  Okay.
• 3:05
  Getting
• 3:05
  like
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  lot
• 3:05
  of
• 3:05
  recognition
• 3:06
  in
• 3:06
  India
• 3:06
  and
• 3:07
  stuff
• 3:07
  like
• 3:07
  that.
• 3:07
  And
• 3:08
  then
• 3:08
  when
• 3:08
  I
• 3:08
  turned
• 3:09
  18,
• 3:09
  I
• 3:09
  felt
• 3:09
  like
• 3:10
  I
• 3:10
  was
• 3:10
  born
• 3:10
  again.
• 3:10
  Because
• 3:10
  when
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  went
• 3:11
  to
• 3:11
  university,
• 3:12
  like
• 3:12
  heavy
• 3:12
  duty
• 3:13
  jazz
• 3:13
  was
• 3:13
  exposed
• 3:13
  to
• 3:14
  me.
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  mean,
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  was
• 3:14
  playing
• 3:14
  jazz
• 3:15
  in
• 3:15
  high
• 3:15
  school,
• 3:15
  but
• 3:15
  like,
• 3:16
  not
• 3:16
  as
• 3:17
  intense,
• 3:17
  like
• 3:18
  studying
• 3:18
  all
• 3:18
  those
• 3:18
  like
• 3:18
  fancy,
• 3:19
  fancy
• 3:19
  books
• 3:19
  and
• 3:19
  modes
• 3:20
  and
• 3:20
  scales
• 3:20
  and
• 3:20
  stuff.
• 3:20
  Yeah.
• 3:21
  You
• 3:21
  know?
• 3:21
  Yeah.
• 3:22
  Textbooks.
• 3:22
  Oh,
• 3:22
  my
• 3:22
  God.
• 3:23
  So
• 3:23
  went
• 3:23
  to
• 3:24
  school
• 3:24
  for
• 3:24
  jazz
• 3:24
  and
• 3:24
  I
• 3:25
  felt
• 3:25
  like
• 3:25
  I
• 3:25
  was
• 3:25
  reborn.
• 3:25
  Born.
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  saw
• 3:26
  a
• 3:26
  gospel
• 3:27
  choir
• 3:27
  for
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  first
• 3:28
  time.
• 3:28
  Karen
• 3:29
  Burke.
• 3:31
  Karen
• 3:32
  York.
• 3:34
  Every
• 3:34
  time.
• 3:35
  Yeah.
• 3:37
  Pick
• 3:37
  up
• 3:37
  yourself,
• 3:38
  Ms.
• 3:39
  Karen.
• 3:39
  So
• 3:40
  Karen
• 3:40
  Burke
• 3:40
  was
• 3:41
  like
• 3:41
  my
• 3:41
  first
• 3:41
  introduction
• 3:42
  to
• 3:43
  gospel
• 3:43
  music.
• 3:44
  And
• 3:44
  when
• 3:44
  I
• 3:45
  saw
• 3:45
  that,
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  was
• 3:45
  mind
• 3:46
  blown.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:47
  I
• 3:47
  remember
• 3:47
  I
• 3:47
  went
• 3:47
  to
• 3:48
  my
• 3:48
  dorm
• 3:48
  room
• 3:48
  and
• 3:49
  cried
• 3:49
  for
• 3:49
  like
• 3:49
  two
• 3:50
  hours
• 3:50
  because
• 3:50
  I'm
• 3:50
  like,
• 3:50
  what
• 3:50
  is
• 3:50
  the
• 3:51
  drummer
• 3:51
  doing
• 3:51
  with
• 3:51
  their
• 3:51
  kick
• 3:52
  pedal?
• 3:52
  Like,
• 3:52
  I've
• 3:52
  never
• 3:53
  seen
• 3:53
  a
• 3:54
  kick
• 3:54
  pedal
• 3:54
  played
• 3:54
  so
• 3:55
  fast.
• 3:55
  Right.
• 3:56
  So
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  spent
• 3:56
  four
• 3:56
  years,
• 3:57
  like
• 3:57
  just
• 3:57
  practicing
• 3:57
  by
• 3:58
  myself,
• 3:58
  doing
• 3:58
  like
• 3:58
  a
• 3:58
  lot
• 3:58
  of
• 3:58
  listening.
• 3:59
  And
• 3:59
  then
• 3:59
  I
• 4:00
  felt
• 4:00
  like
• 4:00
  as
• 4:00
  soon
• 4:00
  as
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  finished
• 4:01
  university,
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  felt
• 4:01
  like
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  was.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  felt
• 4:03
  like
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  was
• 4:03
  my
• 4:03
  third
• 4:03
  life.
• 4:04
  Now
• 4:04
  I'm
• 4:04
  combining
• 4:05
  my
• 4:05
  roots
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  then
• 4:06
  my,
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  know,
• 4:07
  funk,
• 4:08
  R
• 4:08
  B,
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  gospel,
• 4:10
  jazz,
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  like
• 4:10
  fusing
• 4:11
  it
• 4:11
  together.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  so
• 4:11
  now
• 4:11
  I'm
• 4:12
  at
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  point
• 4:12
  where
• 4:12
  I'm
• 4:12
  just
• 4:12
  like,
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  love
• 4:13
  everything,
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  know?
• 4:15
  Yeah.
• 4:15
  I'm
• 4:16
  surprised
• 4:16
  you
• 4:16
  don't
• 4:16
  know
• 4:17
  how
• 4:18
  well
• 4:18
  known
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  are
• 4:19
  like
• 4:19
  this.
• 4:20
  Remember
• 4:20
  I
• 4:21
  sent
• 4:21
  you,
• 4:21
  I
• 4:22
  sent
• 4:22
  Tariki
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  video
• 4:23
  of
• 4:23
  you
• 4:23
  And
• 4:23
  I
• 4:24
  was
• 4:24
  like,
• 4:25
  look
• 4:25
  at
• 4:25
  this
• 4:25
  drummer.
• 4:26
  Sending
• 4:27
  it
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  people.
• 4:27
  And
• 4:27
  then
• 4:28
  after
• 4:28
  that,
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  was
• 4:28
  like,
• 4:28
  she's
• 4:29
  from
• 4:29
  Toronto.
• 4:29
  Yeah.
• 4:30
  Oh,
• 4:30
  this
• 4:30
  is
• 4:30
  like.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  think
• 4:31
  we
• 4:31
  messaged
• 4:32
  you,
• 4:32
  but
• 4:32
  you're
• 4:32
  probably
• 4:33
  like,
• 4:33
  who's
• 4:33
  this?
• 4:33
  Oh,
• 4:34
  really?
• 4:34
  Like,
• 4:34
  you're
• 4:34
  from
• 4:35
  here.
• 4:35
  That's
• 4:35
  great.
• 4:38
  That's
• 4:38
  so
• 4:39
  funny.
• 4:39
  We
• 4:39
  know
• 4:39
  where
• 4:39
  you
• 4:39
  live,
• 4:40
  but
• 4:40
  yeah.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:40
  then
• 4:41
  Anthony's
• 4:41
  like,
• 4:42
  have
• 4:42
  you
• 4:42
  ever
• 4:42
  heard
• 4:42
  of
• 4:43
  Sarah
• 4:43
  Tower?
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  I'm
• 4:43
  like,
• 4:44
  what?
• 4:45
  Yes.
• 4:45
  Coming
• 4:46
  here?
• 4:47
  No.
• 4:47
  Psych.
• 4:49
  It's
• 4:49
  cr.
• 4:50
  How
• 4:50
  do
• 4:50
  you
• 4:51
  learn?
• 4:51
  Like,
• 4:52
  from
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  technical
• 4:52
  perspective.
• 4:53
  Yeah.
• 4:53
  It's
• 4:55
  hard
• 4:55
  to.
• 4:56
  To
• 4:56
  rank
• 4:57
  musicians
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  really,
• 4:58
  it's
• 4:59
  not
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  sport.
• 4:59
  Yeah,
• 5:00
  but
• 5:00
  on
• 5:00
  a
• 5:00
  technical.
• 5:02
  From
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  technical
• 5:02
  standpoint,
• 5:03
  you're
• 5:04
  one
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  higher
• 5:04
  ups
• 5:05
  that
• 5:06
  are
• 5:06
  out
• 5:06
  there
• 5:06
  right
• 5:07
  now.
• 5:07
  Like,
• 5:07
  where.
• 5:08
  What's.
• 5:09
  I'm
• 5:09
  sure
• 5:09
  Humber
• 5:10
  was
• 5:10
  part
• 5:10
  of
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  training.
• 5:11
  York,
• 5:11
  York.
• 5:12
  York.
• 5:12
  York
• 5:13
  and
• 5:13
  Bjork.
• 5:13
  Remember
• 5:14
  York
• 5:14
  and
• 5:14
  Bjork.
• 5:15
  Okay.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  then,
• 5:16
  like,
• 5:17
  how
• 5:17
  do
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  get
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  level?
• 5:18
  What.
• 5:19
  What
• 5:19
  happened?
• 5:21
  So
• 5:22
  when
• 5:22
  I
• 5:22
  applied
• 5:23
  for
• 5:23
  school,
• 5:23
  I
• 5:24
  got
• 5:24
  rejected
• 5:24
  from
• 5:25
  Humber.
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  got
• 5:27
  rejected
• 5:27
  from
• 5:27
  U
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  T.
• 5:28
  Wow.
• 5:28
  I
• 5:29
  got
• 5:29
  rejected
• 5:29
  from
• 5:29
  Berkeley.
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  got
• 5:30
  rejected
• 5:31
  from
• 5:31
  every
• 5:31
  school
• 5:32
  that
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  applied
• 5:32
  for.
• 5:32
  Do
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  know
• 5:33
  why?
• 5:34
  So
• 5:34
  because
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  didn't
• 5:35
  suck.
• 5:36
  That's
• 5:36
  why.
• 5:37
  How
• 5:37
  dare
• 5:37
  you?
• 5:40
  So
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  reason
• 5:40
  why
• 5:41
  was
• 5:41
  because
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  didn't
• 5:41
  understand
• 5:41
  technical
• 5:42
  terms,
• 5:43
  right?
• 5:43
  Like,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  could
• 5:44
  play
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  paradiddles
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  can
• 5:45
  do
• 5:45
  that.
• 5:46
  But
• 5:46
  when
• 5:46
  they
• 5:46
  said
• 5:47
  play
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  six,
• 5:47
  eight,
• 5:48
  Colombian
• 5:48
  or
• 5:48
  rumba
• 5:49
  Colombia,
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  remember
• 5:50
  that,
• 5:50
  like
• 5:50
  at
• 5:50
  Humber.
• 5:51
  And,
• 5:51
  like,
• 5:51
  I
• 5:52
  don't
• 5:52
  want
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  say
• 5:52
  any,
• 5:52
  but,
• 5:52
  like,
• 5:52
  the
• 5:53
  Prof.
• 5:53
  Stood
• 5:53
  behind
• 5:54
  me
• 5:54
  like
• 5:54
  this,
• 5:54
  like,
• 5:55
  just
• 5:55
  staring
• 5:55
  at
• 5:55
  me
• 5:55
  with
• 5:55
  a
• 5:56
  frown.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:56
  I'm
• 5:56
  like,
• 5:57
  like,
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  can
• 5:57
  play,
• 5:58
  but
• 5:58
  just
• 5:58
  like,
• 5:58
  kind
• 5:58
  of
• 5:58
  help
• 5:59
  me
• 5:59
  out
• 5:59
  and
• 5:59
  be
• 5:59
  on
• 5:59
  my
• 5:59
  side.
• 6:00
  School
• 6:01
  here.
• 6:01
  Yeah.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:02
  I'm
• 6:02
  like,
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  know
• 6:02
  what?
• 6:03
  York
• 6:03
  was
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  only
• 6:03
  school
• 6:04
  that
• 6:04
  saw
• 6:04
  my
• 6:04
  potential
• 6:05
  because
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  walked
• 6:05
  into
• 6:05
  my
• 6:05
  audition,
• 6:06
  they're
• 6:06
  like,
• 6:06
  play.
• 6:06
  I
• 6:07
  had
• 6:07
  my
• 6:07
  tablas,
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  had
• 6:08
  my
• 6:08
  drums.
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  just,
• 6:09
  like,
• 6:09
  did
• 6:09
  my
• 6:09
  thing.
• 6:10
  And
• 6:10
  they
• 6:10
  gave
• 6:10
  me,
• 6:10
  like,
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  $40,000
• 6:11
  scholarship.
• 6:12
  The
• 6:12
  Oscar
• 6:12
  Peterson
• 6:12
  Scholarship.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:14
  then
• 6:14
  I'm
• 6:14
  like,
• 6:14
  give
• 6:14
  me
• 6:15
  four
• 6:15
  years,
• 6:15
  people.
• 6:16
  And
• 6:16
  I
• 6:16
  studied,
• 6:17
  like,
• 6:17
  every
• 6:18
  single
• 6:19
  book.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:19
  I'm
• 6:19
  like,
• 6:19
  that
• 6:19
  then
• 6:20
  came
• 6:20
  out
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  I'm
• 6:20
  like,
• 6:21
  come
• 6:21
  on,
• 6:21
  like,
• 6:21
  ask
• 6:21
  me
• 6:22
  any
• 6:22
  questions.
• 6:22
  So,
• 6:22
  like,
• 6:22
  that
• 6:23
  was
• 6:23
  my,
• 6:23
  like,
• 6:23
  let's
• 6:24
  go.
• 6:24
  You
• 6:24
  know,
• 6:25
  that's
• 6:26
  huge.
• 6:26
  Your
• 6:26
  work
• 6:26
  ethic.
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  actually
• 6:27
  gonna
• 6:27
  ask
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  about
• 6:28
  that
• 6:28
  or
• 6:29
  mention
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  at
• 6:29
  least,
• 6:29
  because
• 6:30
  we
• 6:30
  played
• 6:31
  together
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  couple
• 6:31
  times
• 6:32
  at
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  church.
• 6:32
  Yeah.
• 6:32
  And
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  remember
• 6:34
  you
• 6:35
  would
• 6:35
  always.
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  don't
• 6:36
  know
• 6:36
  if
• 6:37
  somebody
• 6:37
  would
• 6:37
  ask
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  what
• 6:37
  you're
• 6:37
  doing
• 6:38
  later,
• 6:38
  but
• 6:38
  it
• 6:38
  would
• 6:38
  always
• 6:38
  be,
• 6:39
  I'm
• 6:39
  going
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  practice.
• 6:39
  Yeah.
• 6:40
  Like
• 6:40
  you
• 6:40
  just
• 6:41
  played
• 6:41
  for
• 6:41
  hours
• 6:41
  and
• 6:42
  you're
• 6:42
  going
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  practice.
• 6:43
  So
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  mean,
• 6:44
  that
• 6:44
  just
• 6:45
  seems
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  be
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  theme
• 6:46
  of
• 6:46
  your,
• 6:47
  your,
• 6:47
  your,
• 6:48
  your
• 6:48
  life
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  your
• 6:49
  career.
• 6:50
  Talk
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  us
• 6:51
  about
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  though.
• 6:52
  Yeah,
• 6:53
  so
• 6:53
  for
• 6:53
  me,
• 6:53
  practicing
• 6:54
  is
• 6:54
  so
• 6:54
  important
• 6:55
  because.
• 6:56
  So
• 6:56
  first
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  see
• 6:57
  music
• 6:57
  as
• 6:57
  a
• 6:57
  blessing.
• 6:58
  First
• 6:58
  of
• 6:58
  all,
• 6:59
  like,
• 6:59
  to
• 6:59
  be
• 6:59
  in
• 6:59
  this
• 6:59
  country,
• 7:00
  Canada
• 7:00
  is
• 7:00
  like
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  huge
• 7:01
  blessing.
• 7:01
  Right.
• 7:01
  You
• 7:02
  know,
• 7:02
  my
• 7:03
  parents
• 7:03
  are
• 7:03
  immigrants
• 7:04
  from
• 7:04
  Africa.
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  think
• 7:05
  all
• 7:05
  of
• 7:05
  us.
• 7:05
  Yeah.
• 7:08
  Like,
• 7:08
  we're
• 7:08
  like,
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  mean,
• 7:10
  look
• 7:11
  at
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  map.
• 7:13
  Like,
• 7:13
  I'm
• 7:13
  like,
• 7:14
  we're
• 7:14
  all
• 7:14
  first
• 7:14
  generation
• 7:15
  Canadian
• 7:15
  or
• 7:15
  that's
• 7:16
  a
• 7:16
  very
• 7:16
  common
• 7:16
  thing
• 7:16
  in
• 7:16
  Toronto.
• 7:17
  So
• 7:17
  it's
• 7:17
  social,
• 7:17
  multic,
• 7:18
  cultural.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:18
  when
• 7:18
  I
• 7:18
  look
• 7:18
  at
• 7:18
  other
• 7:19
  people,
• 7:19
  like
• 7:19
  women
• 7:20
  in
• 7:20
  India,
• 7:20
  because
• 7:20
  my,
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  am
• 7:21
  Indian,
• 7:22
  my
• 7:22
  heritage
• 7:22
  is
• 7:22
  Indian.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:23
  I
• 7:24
  see
• 7:24
  like,
• 7:25
  maybe
• 7:25
  because
• 7:25
  of
• 7:26
  where
• 7:26
  they
• 7:26
  live,
• 7:26
  people
• 7:26
  are
• 7:26
  restricted.
• 7:27
  Right.
• 7:27
  Because
• 7:28
  they
• 7:28
  don't
• 7:28
  have
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  resources,
• 7:29
  they
• 7:29
  don't
• 7:29
  have
• 7:29
  food
• 7:29
  and
• 7:30
  like
• 7:30
  their
• 7:30
  priorities.
• 7:31
  Like,
• 7:31
  hey,
• 7:31
  how
• 7:31
  can
• 7:31
  I
• 7:32
  have
• 7:32
  my
• 7:32
  next
• 7:32
  meal?
• 7:32
  And
• 7:32
  that
• 7:33
  was
• 7:33
  my
• 7:33
  parents
• 7:33
  situation
• 7:34
  growing
• 7:34
  up.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:35
  you
• 7:35
  know,
• 7:35
  my
• 7:35
  parents
• 7:36
  coming
• 7:36
  here,
• 7:36
  they're
• 7:36
  like,
• 7:36
  you
• 7:37
  can
• 7:37
  do
• 7:37
  what
• 7:37
  you
• 7:38
  want.
• 7:38
  Well,
• 7:38
  they're
• 7:38
  like,
• 7:39
  first
• 7:39
  get
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  degree,
• 7:39
  then
• 7:39
  you
• 7:40
  can
• 7:40
  do
• 7:40
  what
• 7:40
  you
• 7:40
  want.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:41
  now
• 7:41
  they're
• 7:41
  like,
• 7:41
  do
• 7:42
  what
• 7:42
  you
• 7:42
  want.
• 7:42
  So
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  found
• 7:42
  that
• 7:43
  like,
• 7:43
  I'm
• 7:43
  so
• 7:43
  lucky
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  just
• 7:44
  play
• 7:45
  drums
• 7:45
  and
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  just
• 7:45
  want
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  take
• 7:46
  that
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  work
• 7:47
  hard
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  run
• 7:48
  with
• 7:48
  it.
• 7:48
  Right.
• 7:49
  So
• 7:49
  that's
• 7:49
  kind
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  my
• 7:50
  like,
• 7:50
  just
• 7:50
  from
• 7:50
  like
• 7:50
  a
• 7:51
  point
• 7:51
  of
• 7:51
  gratitude
• 7:52
  for
• 7:52
  sure.
• 7:52
  Like
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  found.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  I'm
• 7:53
  sure
• 7:54
  other
• 7:54
  women
• 7:54
  are
• 7:55
  definitely
• 7:56
  encouraged
• 7:56
  and
• 7:56
  inspired
• 7:57
  by
• 7:57
  you
• 7:58
  playing
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  drums.
• 7:58
  Especially
• 7:59
  women
• 7:59
  in
• 8:00
  India
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  might
• 8:00
  not
• 8:01
  have
• 8:01
  those
• 8:01
  opportunities
• 8:01
  in
• 8:02
  place.
• 8:03
  Yeah.
• 8:03
  So
• 8:04
  that's,
• 8:04
  that's,
• 8:04
  that's
• 8:05
  incredible
• 8:05
  for
• 8:05
  sure.
• 8:06
  Thank
• 8:06
  you.
• 8:07
  You
• 8:07
  have
• 8:07
  incredible
• 8:08
  online
• 8:09
  presence
• 8:09
  too.
• 8:10
  Yeah.
• 8:10
  How
• 8:10
  did
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  come
• 8:11
  to
• 8:12
  be?
• 8:12
  Was
• 8:12
  this
• 8:12
  intentional
• 8:13
  or
• 8:13
  is
• 8:13
  it
• 8:13
  something
• 8:13
  that
• 8:13
  just
• 8:14
  started
• 8:14
  to
• 8:14
  happen?
• 8:15
  Yeah.
• 8:15
  So
• 8:16
  I'll
• 8:16
  tell
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  story.
• 8:16
  Yeah,
• 8:17
  we
• 8:17
  love
• 8:17
  stories
• 8:17
  around
• 8:18
  here.
• 8:18
  Oh
• 8:18
  man,
• 8:18
  I
• 8:19
  love
• 8:19
  talking.
• 8:19
  So
• 8:20
  you'll
• 8:20
  be
• 8:20
  fed
• 8:20
  up
• 8:20
  really
• 8:21
  soon.
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  totally
• 8:22
  doubt
• 8:22
  that.
• 8:24
  So,
• 8:25
  okay,
• 8:25
  so
• 8:25
  when
• 8:25
  I
• 8:26
  was
• 8:26
  growing
• 8:26
  up,
• 8:26
  my
• 8:26
  dad
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  like,
• 8:27
  don't
• 8:27
  play
• 8:28
  drums.
• 8:28
  Really?
• 8:29
  What?
• 8:29
  Oh
• 8:30
  God.
• 8:30
  Like,
• 8:31
  loud.
• 8:31
  Okay.
• 8:32
  It's
• 8:32
  too
• 8:32
  loud.
• 8:32
  Yeah.
• 8:33
  But
• 8:33
  also
• 8:33
  there
• 8:34
  were
• 8:34
  like.
• 8:34
  Okay.
• 8:35
  So
• 8:35
  my
• 8:35
  dad
• 8:35
  used
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  be
• 8:35
  a
• 8:36
  music
• 8:36
  director
• 8:36
  for
• 8:36
  like
• 8:36
  when
• 8:37
  artists
• 8:37
  would
• 8:37
  come
• 8:37
  from
• 8:37
  India
• 8:38
  and
• 8:38
  he
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  like
• 8:38
  the
• 8:39
  band
• 8:39
  leader
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  he
• 8:39
  would
• 8:40
  hire
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  drummers
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  he,
• 8:41
  he
• 8:41
  was
• 8:41
  like,
• 8:41
  drummer
• 8:42
  are
• 8:42
  at
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  back
• 8:42
  of
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  stage.
• 8:43
  Nobody
• 8:43
  cares
• 8:43
  about
• 8:43
  drummers.
• 8:44
  What
• 8:44
  do
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  want
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  do
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  yourself?
• 8:45
  He's
• 8:45
  like,
• 8:46
  you're
• 8:46
  going
• 8:46
  to
• 8:46
  be
• 8:46
  carrying
• 8:46
  all
• 8:46
  this
• 8:47
  gear
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  you're
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  girl,
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  you're
• 8:48
  going
• 8:48
  to
• 8:48
  be,
• 8:48
  like,
• 8:49
  walking
• 8:49
  around
• 8:49
  late
• 8:50
  at
• 8:50
  night
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  things
• 8:50
  like
• 8:51
  that.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:51
  he
• 8:52
  said,
• 8:52
  don't
• 8:52
  ruin
• 8:52
  your
• 8:52
  life
• 8:53
  and,
• 8:53
  like,
• 8:53
  become
• 8:53
  a
• 8:54
  singer
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  piano
• 8:55
  player.
• 8:55
  Oh,
• 8:55
  wow.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  so
• 8:56
  that's
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  reason
• 8:57
  my
• 8:57
  parents
• 8:57
  put
• 8:57
  me
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  singing
• 8:58
  classes
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  piano
• 8:59
  classes
• 8:59
  for,
• 9:00
  like,
• 9:00
  10
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  15
• 9:00
  years,
• 9:01
  because
• 9:01
  they
• 9:01
  were
• 9:01
  trying
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  push
• 9:01
  me
• 9:02
  away
• 9:02
  from
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  drums.
• 9:03
  But
• 9:03
  we
• 9:03
  had,
• 9:03
  like,
• 9:04
  three
• 9:04
  drum
• 9:04
  sets
• 9:04
  around
• 9:04
  the
• 9:05
  house,
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  we
• 9:05
  had,
• 9:05
  like,
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  lot
• 9:05
  of
• 9:05
  percussion
• 9:06
  around
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  house.
• 9:07
  So
• 9:07
  anyway,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  told
• 9:08
  my
• 9:08
  dad,
• 9:08
  like,
• 9:09
  stop
• 9:09
  bugging
• 9:09
  me
• 9:10
  because
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  want
• 9:10
  to
• 9:10
  keep
• 9:10
  doing
• 9:11
  it
• 9:11
  Anyway,
• 9:12
  so
• 9:12
  I
• 9:12
  started
• 9:12
  playing
• 9:12
  in
• 9:13
  his
• 9:13
  band
• 9:14
  from,
• 9:14
  like,
• 9:14
  whatever,
• 9:14
  five,
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  then
• 9:15
  started
• 9:15
  playing
• 9:15
  kid
• 9:16
  in
• 9:16
  his
• 9:16
  band
• 9:16
  at,
• 9:16
  like,
• 9:16
  12.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:17
  then
• 9:17
  he's,
• 9:18
  like,
• 9:18
  in
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  band
• 9:18
  at
• 9:18
  5.
• 9:19
  But
• 9:19
  it
• 9:20
  was
• 9:20
  like,
• 9:20
  percussion.
• 9:20
  It
• 9:20
  was
• 9:20
  not,
• 9:21
  like,
• 9:21
  hard
• 9:21
  stuff.
• 9:21
  It
• 9:22
  was
• 9:22
  like
• 9:22
  three
• 9:22
  drums.
• 9:23
  Oh,
• 9:23
  yeah.
• 9:23
  You
• 9:23
  have
• 9:23
  videos
• 9:24
  online
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  that?
• 9:24
  Yeah.
• 9:25
  You
• 9:25
  saw
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  videos?
• 9:25
  Yeah.
• 9:29
  I'm
• 9:30
  swooning
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  bit.
• 9:33
  Oh,
• 9:33
  my
• 9:33
  God.
• 9:34
  So
• 9:34
  then
• 9:35
  after
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  turned
• 9:36
  16,
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  my
• 9:37
  dad's
• 9:37
  like,
• 9:37
  okay,
• 9:38
  so
• 9:38
  you're
• 9:38
  not
• 9:38
  going
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  give
• 9:38
  up
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  drums?
• 9:39
  I'm
• 9:39
  like,
• 9:39
  no,
• 9:39
  I'm
• 9:39
  not
• 9:39
  going
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  give
• 9:39
  up
• 9:39
  the
• 9:40
  drums.
• 9:40
  He's
• 9:40
  like,
• 9:40
  okay,
• 9:40
  make
• 9:40
  me
• 9:40
  a
• 9:41
  promise.
• 9:41
  I'm
• 9:41
  like,
• 9:41
  all
• 9:41
  right,
• 9:41
  cool.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:42
  he's
• 9:42
  like,
• 9:42
  make
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  name
• 9:43
  for
• 9:43
  yourself
• 9:43
  as
• 9:44
  a
• 9:44
  drummer.
• 9:44
  Because,
• 9:45
  like,
• 9:45
  he's
• 9:45
  like,
• 9:45
  I
• 9:46
  care
• 9:46
  for
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  so
• 9:46
  much.
• 9:46
  I
• 9:47
  don't
• 9:47
  want
• 9:47
  you
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  suffer,
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  don't
• 9:49
  want
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  to
• 9:49
  rely
• 9:49
  on
• 9:49
  an
• 9:50
  artist
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  make
• 9:51
  money.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:52
  he's
• 9:52
  like,
• 9:53
  so
• 9:53
  make
• 9:53
  an
• 9:53
  online
• 9:54
  presence
• 9:54
  for
• 9:54
  yourself
• 9:55
  so
• 9:55
  you
• 9:55
  will
• 9:56
  never
• 9:56
  have
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  rely
• 9:56
  on
• 9:57
  anybody.
• 9:57
  And
• 9:58
  I'm
• 9:58
  like,
• 9:58
  all
• 9:58
  right,
• 9:58
  cool.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  started
• 9:59
  posting
• 9:59
  videos
• 10:00
  in
• 10:00
  2009
• 10:01
  on
• 10:01
  YouTube.
• 10:01
  That's
• 10:02
  when,
• 10:02
  like,
• 10:02
  YouTube
• 10:02
  started
• 10:02
  popping,
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  think.
• 10:03
  Yeah.
• 10:04
  Seems
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  be
• 10:05
  2008,
• 10:05
  2009
• 10:06
  seems
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  be
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  golden
• 10:07
  age
• 10:07
  of
• 10:08
  when
• 10:08
  people
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  blew
• 10:09
  up,
• 10:09
  they
• 10:09
  started
• 10:10
  a
• 10:11
  while.
• 10:11
  That's
• 10:11
  when
• 10:11
  I
• 10:11
  started,
• 10:12
  like,
• 10:12
  on
• 10:12
  YouTube.
• 10:13
  And
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  was
• 10:13
  like,
• 10:13
  what
• 10:13
  grade?
• 10:14
  Grade
• 10:14
  10
• 10:14
  or
• 10:15
  grade
• 10:16
  10?
• 10:16
  Grade
• 10:16
  9.
• 10:16
  Grade
• 10:17
  10.
• 10:17
  Was
• 10:17
  it
• 10:17
  2009?
• 10:18
  Good
• 10:18
  move.
• 10:18
  Yeah,
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  long
• 10:19
  time
• 10:19
  ago.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:20
  then
• 10:20
  after.
• 10:21
  Yeah.
• 10:22
  Started
• 10:22
  getting
• 10:22
  recognition
• 10:23
  on
• 10:23
  in
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  Bollywood
• 10:24
  industry
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  stuff.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:25
  then
• 10:25
  after,
• 10:25
  when
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  went
• 10:25
  first,
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  guess
• 10:26
  first.
• 10:26
  Yeah.
• 10:27
  That
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  like,
• 10:27
  my
• 10:27
  first
• 10:28
  entry
• 10:28
  point.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:29
  then
• 10:29
  after,
• 10:29
  I'm
• 10:30
  like,
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  want
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  go
• 10:31
  to
• 10:32
  New
• 10:32
  York
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  want
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  go
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  la.
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  don't
• 10:33
  want
• 10:33
  to,
• 10:34
  like,
• 10:34
  go
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  music
• 10:34
  school.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:35
  my
• 10:35
  parents
• 10:35
  are
• 10:35
  like,
• 10:36
  you're
• 10:36
  crazy.
• 10:36
  Absolutely
• 10:37
  not.
• 10:38
  So,
• 10:38
  like,
• 10:38
  they're
• 10:38
  like,
• 10:38
  finish
• 10:38
  your
• 10:39
  program.
• 10:39
  So
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  said,
• 10:39
  fine,
• 10:40
  I'm
• 10:40
  gonna
• 10:40
  be
• 10:40
  in
• 10:40
  my
• 10:40
  dorm
• 10:41
  room,
• 10:41
  but
• 10:41
  I'm
• 10:42
  gonna
• 10:42
  make
• 10:42
  videos.
• 10:43
  So
• 10:43
  people
• 10:44
  in
• 10:44
  The
• 10:44
  States
• 10:45
  know
• 10:45
  who
• 10:45
  Sarah
• 10:46
  is,
• 10:46
  right.
• 10:46
  So
• 10:47
  when
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  walk
• 10:47
  in
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  room,
• 10:48
  no
• 10:48
  one's
• 10:48
  like,
• 10:48
  ugh,
• 10:49
  who
• 10:49
  is
• 10:49
  this?
• 10:50
  You
• 10:50
  know,
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  she
• 10:50
  can't
• 10:51
  play.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  like,
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  remember
• 10:52
  when
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  like
• 10:52
  23,
• 10:52
  I
• 10:53
  went
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  NAMM
• 10:53
  for
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  first
• 10:53
  time,
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  when
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  walked
• 10:55
  into
• 10:55
  namm,
• 10:55
  nobody,
• 10:56
  like,
• 10:56
  paid
• 10:57
  any
• 10:57
  attention
• 10:57
  to
• 10:57
  me.
• 10:58
  They're
• 10:58
  like,
• 10:58
  who
• 10:58
  is
• 10:58
  she?
• 10:59
  Yeah.
• 10:59
  And
• 10:59
  when
• 10:59
  I
• 10:59
  said
• 10:59
  I
• 11:00
  play
• 11:00
  drums,
• 11:00
  they're
• 11:00
  like,
• 11:01
  okay,
• 11:02
  you
• 11:02
  know?
• 11:02
  Yeah.
• 11:03
  Cute.
• 11:03
  Yeah.
• 11:04
  So
• 11:04
  then
• 11:04
  I'm
• 11:04
  like,
• 11:05
  okay,
• 11:06
  I'll
• 11:06
  be
• 11:06
  back.
• 11:06
  Right?
• 11:07
  So
• 11:07
  every
• 11:07
  time,
• 11:08
  my
• 11:08
  plan
• 11:08
  was
• 11:08
  every
• 11:09
  time
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  to
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  NAM
• 11:10
  show,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  want
• 11:10
  at
• 11:10
  least
• 11:10
  like,
• 11:11
  couple
• 11:11
  of
• 11:11
  more
• 11:11
  people
• 11:11
  to
• 11:12
  know
• 11:12
  who
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  am.
• 11:12
  And
• 11:12
  not
• 11:13
  from
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  point
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  like,
• 11:14
  oh,
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  just
• 11:14
  want
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  be
• 11:15
  on
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  pedestal.
• 11:15
  No,
• 11:16
  it
• 11:16
  was
• 11:16
  at
• 11:16
  a
• 11:16
  point
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  so
• 11:16
  I
• 11:17
  can
• 11:17
  play
• 11:17
  with
• 11:17
  my
• 11:17
  heroes,
• 11:18
  so
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  can
• 11:18
  be
• 11:18
  appreciated
• 11:19
  for
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  love
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  music
• 11:20
  and
• 11:21
  drums
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  my
• 11:21
  work
• 11:22
  ethic.
• 11:22
  And
• 11:22
  I
• 11:23
  just
• 11:23
  want
• 11:23
  to
• 11:23
  make
• 11:23
  music
• 11:23
  a
• 11:24
  living
• 11:24
  so
• 11:24
  like,
• 11:24
  like
• 11:25
  recognize
• 11:25
  who
• 11:25
  I
• 11:25
  am
• 11:26
  and
• 11:26
  what
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  can
• 11:26
  do.
• 11:27
  Yeah.
• 11:28
  So
• 11:28
  it
• 11:28
  was
• 11:28
  just
• 11:28
  for
• 11:28
  me,
• 11:29
  like,
• 11:29
  social
• 11:29
  media
• 11:29
  has
• 11:30
  been
• 11:30
  a
• 11:30
  walking,
• 11:30
  talking
• 11:31
  portfolio
• 11:31
  for
• 11:32
  me.
• 11:32
  And
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  discography.
• 11:33
  Yeah.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:34
  when
• 11:34
  anybody
• 11:35
  sees
• 11:35
  me,
• 11:35
  they
• 11:36
  want
• 11:36
  to
• 11:36
  know
• 11:36
  what
• 11:36
  I'm
• 11:36
  like,
• 11:37
  Just
• 11:37
  open
• 11:37
  up
• 11:37
  my
• 11:37
  Instagram,
• 11:38
  just
• 11:38
  open
• 11:38
  up
• 11:38
  my
• 11:38
  Facebook.
• 11:38
  And
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  don't
• 11:39
  have
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  be
• 11:39
  where
• 11:40
  you
• 11:40
  are
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  get
• 11:40
  hired.
• 11:41
  You
• 11:41
  right?
• 11:42
  So
• 11:42
  that's
• 11:42
  been
• 11:43
  my
• 11:43
  approach
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  social
• 11:44
  media.
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  think
• 11:45
  more
• 11:45
  artists
• 11:45
  should
• 11:46
  use
• 11:46
  that
• 11:46
  as
• 11:47
  their,
• 11:47
  like,
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  said,
• 11:48
  discography
• 11:48
  or
• 11:48
  even
• 11:49
  their
• 11:50
  real.
• 11:50
  You
• 11:50
  know
• 11:50
  what
• 11:50
  I
• 11:51
  mean?
• 11:51
  Every
• 11:52
  framework,
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  tell
• 11:54
  everybody,
• 11:54
  you
• 11:55
  got
• 11:55
  to
• 11:55
  get
• 11:55
  on
• 11:55
  social
• 11:55
  media,
• 11:56
  there's
• 11:57
  nothing
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  lose
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  there's
• 11:58
  everything
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  gain.
• 11:59
  True.