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Sound Off 962 - The Death Of BILLIONAIRE TED, John Cena Classic REACTION And More! · Solomonster Sounds Off

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  Speaker 1: This is Mama Monster. I'm gonna keep the recording until
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  Speaker 1: or we're never going to be able to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I have to compose myself Jesus. But now, Happy Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 1: a show to do. Hey, this is Mama Monster and
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  Speaker 1: your Mama Monster. I want your soul. You got grown
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  Speaker 1: ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter. Come over here?
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  Speaker 1: Is that you have legs? I was ninety nine percent positive.
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  Speaker 1: It was just chessed up. I have been begging him
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  Speaker 1: for a job on every platform I can, and I
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  Speaker 1: heavenly Mother's Day to Mama Monster and all the moms
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  Speaker 1: out there who are no longer with us, and happy
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  Speaker 1: Mother's Day to all the moms who are. It is Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: May tenth, twenty twenty six. I am the Solemn Monster.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say May tenth without talking about May tenth
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine will always stand out to me because
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  Speaker 1: that is, to this day the highest rated episode of
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw in the history of the show, in
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  Speaker 1: eight point one Nielsen rating. I still have the newspaper
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  Speaker 1: clippings talking about it because I was a psycho wrestling
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  Speaker 1: fan back then and I thought, hey, this is history.
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  Speaker 1: I should keep this, so I have it somewhere. Not
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  Speaker 1: the greatest episode, not by a long shot, you go
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  Speaker 1: back and watch it, but a great time capsule into
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  Speaker 1: what the Attitude era was, and by far the highest rated,
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  Speaker 1: largely because they went unopposed that night with no Nitro
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  Speaker 1: on to thank the NBA playoffs for that. On TNT,
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  Speaker 1: normally when one show would be pre empty, the other
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  Speaker 1: one would be expected to pick up some of their audience,
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  Speaker 1: but in this case they picked up about half of
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  Speaker 1: the usual Nitro audience, and so they had over eight
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  Speaker 1: million viewers. The main event that night peaked with over
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  Speaker 1: ten million viewers. Those are insane numbers, insane cable numbers
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  Speaker 1: that don't even seem real. It's no wonder they got
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  Speaker 1: a network TV deal for SmackDown a few months later,
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  Speaker 1: although SmackDown never did numbers like that, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the reason for this can be traced back to
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  Speaker 1: Ted Turner and the money that he poured into WCW
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, which lit a fire under WWE's
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  Speaker 1: ass in a way that nobody else had done before
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  Speaker 1: and frankly hasn't done since. Tony Kahn would be the
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  Speaker 1: closest thing, because he's another billionaire with enough money to
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  Speaker 1: fight them. But the landscape is just so different now
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  Speaker 1: compared to how it was in the late nineties. Ted
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  Speaker 1: Turner passed away this week, and I'm gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to say about him here in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We got to talk about backlash from last night. How
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  Speaker 1: about that House of Glory shout by Michael Cole that
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  Speaker 1: was unexpected aw held collision last night? Lost in all
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  Speaker 1: the noise of backlash, there was an hour of collision
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  Speaker 1: in a most interesting venue and I loved it and
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  Speaker 1: I will talk about it. And Dark Side of the
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  Speaker 1: Ring is coming back. I will tell you when and
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  Speaker 1: what the subjects they are covering are for season seven.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a pack show this week. But I'll
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  Speaker 1: mention this first because I covered this in great detail
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  Speaker 1: at the time. That had happened last year. But the
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  Speaker 1: case against Rampage Jackson's son, Rajah Jackson has been closed.
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  Speaker 1: Finally have a resolution to this, and while I cannot
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  Speaker 1: say that it is surprising, it does not make it
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  Speaker 1: any less of a joke. This is after the incident
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  Speaker 1: of the Knox Pro show last August. It saw him
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  Speaker 1: climb into the ring during the show. All of this
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  Speaker 1: was being streamed, I think on his Kick channel. He
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  Speaker 1: has since been kicked from Kick and it showed him
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  Speaker 1: attacking Psycho Stu. He was pounding away on him even
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  Speaker 1: after it was clear that Stu was out cold and
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  Speaker 1: there were other wrestlers who tried to pull him up.
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  Speaker 1: Had other wrestlers not intervened to pull this man off
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  Speaker 1: of Psycho Stu, Raja may well have beaten that man
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  Speaker 1: to death. Even after they pulled him off of Stu.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't done, like he was ready for more. He
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  Speaker 1: had a look in his eyes that was very, very scary,
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  Speaker 1: and he had been invited to the show as someone's guest.
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  Speaker 1: There was an incident outside prior to the show where
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  Speaker 1: Stu hit him in the head with an empty beer can,
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  Speaker 1: which Raja was not expecting, and Stu thought he was
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  Speaker 1: a wrestler and he thought he was a worker. He
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  Speaker 1: was wondering why he's not selling it. Stu should not
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  Speaker 1: have done that. It was very stupid. And he did
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  Speaker 1: apologize to Raja right after, and that's on video too,
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  Speaker 1: and he told him, look, I thought you were a worker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So not to excuse Stu's actions here, but
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  Speaker 1: he did apologize to him for what happened. It seemed
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  Speaker 1: like it was over and done with. That's very different
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  Speaker 1: from what Raja did to him later in the night.
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  Speaker 1: The two things are hardly equal. Nor can he claim
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  Speaker 1: self defense. That doesn't apply here either. Everything is on video.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the most disturbing things that I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in a wrestling ring. There are lots of people
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  Speaker 1: at fault here for allowing this to happen, but only
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  Speaker 1: one person who threw fists and nearly killed someone, and
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  Speaker 1: Knox Pro lost its WWEID designation because of it. Rakishi,
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  Speaker 1: who was one of the founders of the company and
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  Speaker 1: the school, although he wasn't present that night, he recently
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  Speaker 1: announced that he was stepping away from the school and
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  Speaker 1: the promotion without saying why. Well. Rajah cut a plea
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  Speaker 1: deal with the district Attorney's Office in Los Angeles, pleading
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  Speaker 1: no content test to one felony count of battery with
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  Speaker 1: serious bodily injury. He also admitted to two special allegations,
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  Speaker 1: including personal infliction of great bodily injury and engaging in
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  Speaker 1: violent conduct, and he will be sentenced in late June.
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  Speaker 1: His anticipated sentence is ninety days of actual jail time,
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  Speaker 1: two years of probation, and restitution of eighty one thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about somebody jaywalking here or getting caught
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  Speaker 1: with some weed on them. This was a violent crime
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  Speaker 1: and for that he gets three months in jail. Now
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  Speaker 1: I understand that this is how it typically works with
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  Speaker 1: a first time offense like this. These things often get
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  Speaker 1: pleaded out. California is hardly the only state where that happens.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that he's the son of a famous fighter,
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  Speaker 1: you know, does that have anything to do with they
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  Speaker 1: Probably not in this case, but you can never be sure.
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  Speaker 1: Him being a first time offender. The fact that happened
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  Speaker 1: in a wrestling ring, and it would be very easy
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  Speaker 1: to argue that it was all part of the show,
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  Speaker 1: or he thought it was part of the show. Right.
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  Speaker 1: They were doing an angle and he was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: run in and get involved. That part is true. It's
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  Speaker 1: just that once he ran in, he had an entirely
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  Speaker 1: different agenda and it went from work to shoot real fast.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes to pro wrestling angles, this goes
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  Speaker 1: to a trial. I can see where some people on
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  Speaker 1: that Jerry might be skeptical about what happened. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I still have actual wrestling fans to this day who
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  Speaker 1: email me convinced that the Montreal screwjob was a work.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think a non wrestling fan is going
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  Speaker 1: to think hearing about something like this, psychostu I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he would have wanted to pursue this. He
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  Speaker 1: may not have. You would think even without him, just
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  Speaker 1: having that video alone would make for a strong enough case,
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  Speaker 1: But maybe not this way. I guess they're guaranteed to
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  Speaker 1: dole out some sort of justice, which is better than nothing,
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  Speaker 1: but that still doesn't seem harsh enough. Now. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying twenty to life or lock them up and throw
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  Speaker 1: away the key, but I mean, fuck, I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: can you watch that video and think that ninety days
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  Speaker 1: is sufficient for doing something like that. I hope we
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  Speaker 1: never have to see anything like that. Ever again, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully other indie promotions learn something from this when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to using outsiders for an angle like that, without
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  Speaker 1: vetting them or smartening them up first, you would at
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  Speaker 1: least hope that there are lessons to be learned here.
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  Speaker 1: this show, I want to say thank you to Rachel
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  Speaker 1: from the Badger State. I appreciate your support very much.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind words. Thank you very much, as
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  Speaker 1: well as to the Portland pop star Paul Hamilton with
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  Speaker 1: the Big Bomb this week and on the SmackDown Stream
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much. I also want to give
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  Speaker 1: a hat tip to Stevie Richards. I got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people who tagged me in this this week. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: he did a video or it was a segment on
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  Speaker 1: one of his shows where he was talking about various
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  Speaker 1: wrestling YouTubers or personalities or people he listens to or watches,
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  Speaker 1: and Stevie's given the sound off a shout out or
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  Speaker 1: two in the past, and he did again here was
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  Speaker 1: very cool. I appreciate that. I'm glad that he enjoys
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  Speaker 1: the show or the clips anyway that he sees Stevie.
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  Speaker 1: Stevie does good work himself, So hat tipped to him,
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  Speaker 1: And thank you for everybody who tagged me in that
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  Speaker 1: and pointed that out to me. I appreciate it. Ted
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  Speaker 1: Turner died on Wednesday at the age of eighty seven,
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  Speaker 1: and in twenty eighteen, he revealed that he had been
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  Speaker 1: diagnosed with Louis bodied dementia, which is the same disease
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  Speaker 1: that Robin Williams suffered from ultimately led to the end
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  Speaker 1: of his life. It's a progressive brain disorder that causes
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of horrible things. The terrorist inside my Husband's brain.
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  Speaker 1: That's the article that Robin's wife wrote after he died.
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  Speaker 1: I still remember reading it if you care to do so.
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  Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking to read what he went through all without
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  Speaker 1: knowing what it was that he even had. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until after he died that they even learned that he
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  Speaker 1: had the disease. But that's what Ted Turner had, and
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  Speaker 1: part of the reason any way, I would imagine why
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  Speaker 1: he lived the later years of his life out of
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  Speaker 1: the public eye, which stood in very stark contrast to
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  Speaker 1: the way he lived most of his life, although he
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  Speaker 1: was eighty years old there so, I mean, it's understandable
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  Speaker 1: that you would see him less and hear from him less.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a man who was dubbed the Mouth
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  Speaker 1: of the South for how outspoken he was, long before
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Hart got the nickname, and he was best known.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it in a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: articles that have come out this week. Best known for
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  Speaker 1: starting CNN, the first twenty four hour news network at
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  Speaker 1: a time when none existed. He revolutionized the TV news industry,
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  Speaker 1: revolutionized the TV industry period with his superstation TBS, cartoon network,
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  Speaker 1: Turner Classic Movies. The man built a media empire. Bought
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves to have programming for TBS back when
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  Speaker 1: it was still a local station and before it became TBS,
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  Speaker 1: which kept the team in Atlanta because there were strong
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  Speaker 1: rumors at the time that the owners may be looking
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  Speaker 1: to move the team out of the city. Turner bought
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  Speaker 1: them to keep them in Atlanta so that he could
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  Speaker 1: air the games on his station. He could broadcast them
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  Speaker 1: nationally from coast to coast, which really wasn't a thing
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  Speaker 1: at the time, you know. He also brought in Bobby
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  Speaker 1: Cox to manage the Braves not long after he bought
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  Speaker 1: the team, and then rehired him many years later, during
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  Speaker 1: which time the Braves won a World Series. Granted they
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  Speaker 1: only won one, just have to point that out, but
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  Speaker 1: they did win a World Series. Bobby Cox also died
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  Speaker 1: this week, which is more than a little eerie that
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  Speaker 1: the two of them both lived well into their eighties
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  Speaker 1: and they died within days of each other. So my
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  Speaker 1: condolences to all the Atlanta folks. Out there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: as a Mets fan, we had to contend with Bobby
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  Speaker 1: Cox for many years. It was very frustrating, although to
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  Speaker 1: be fair, he was very fortunate to have the kind
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  Speaker 1: of pitching that those Braves teams had. But he is
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  Speaker 1: the greatest manager in the history of that franchise. Ted
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  Speaker 1: Turner is the one who hired him and then fired him,
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  Speaker 1: and then hired him back. And Turner did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: He bought the Atlanta Hawks to keep them in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: He gifted a billion dollar to the United Nations to
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  Speaker 1: form the United Nations Foundation because he believed that international
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  Speaker 1: engagement was necessary for the sake of humanity, and whatever
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  Speaker 1: you think of the UN, he clearly believed in its cause.
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  Speaker 1: No one pledges a billion dollars of their personal wealth
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  Speaker 1: to something that they don't believe in very strongly. He
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  Speaker 1: created the Turner Foundation, which provided grants to support environmental causes.
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  Speaker 1: He co created the Captain Planet character. I'm sorry to say,
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  Speaker 1: the first time I even really knew of Captain Planet
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  Speaker 1: was through some of the sketches on Robot Chicken. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really a Captain Planet guy, I guess. But he
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  Speaker 1: co created Captain Planet he rescued American bison from near extinction.
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  Speaker 1: All that to say, he wasn't just a one trick pony.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't just a media executive. He wasn't just the
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  Speaker 1: owner of a baseball team. He had his hands in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and he put his money
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  Speaker 1: where his mouth was, even though his mouth got him
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  Speaker 1: into trouble more than a few times. You'll notice the
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  Speaker 1: one thing I haven't even mentioned yet was his ties
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  Speaker 1: to pro wrestling, because in the grand scheme of things,
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  Speaker 1: his involvement in wrestling was like a tiny sliver of
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  Speaker 1: his life. Wrestling only gets a passing mention in his book,
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  Speaker 1: and yet without exaggeration, he will go down as one
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  Speaker 1: of the single most important figures in the history of
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  Speaker 1: pro wrestling, so much so that even WWE gave him
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  Speaker 1: a graphic on SmackDown. You know, there was a time
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  Speaker 1: where that never would have happened, but a certain someone
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  Speaker 1: ain't there no more. I still wasn't sure they would
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge his death, So that was actually a pleasant surprise
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  Speaker 1: to see that on Dynamite, AW had a very classy
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  Speaker 1: tribune with Tony Shravanni in the ring. Would sting two
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  Speaker 1: people who were synonymous with that era when wrestling was
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  Speaker 1: on TBS and then later on you know on TNT
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  Speaker 1: in the Nitro days, Shravanni was the voice of the
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  Speaker 1: company and Sting was the face of it, him and
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  Speaker 1: Rick Flair. But there's a reason that they called Sting
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  Speaker 1: the franchise. He was the one guy who never left
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  Speaker 1: for WWE, not until many years after WCW was dead
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  Speaker 1: and buried. But Tony spoke, Sting spoke. They gave him
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  Speaker 1: a ten bells salute on TBS. It just felt right.
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  Speaker 1: Pro wrestling is not where it is today without Ted Turner.
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  Speaker 1: If he was not a fan of wrestling, if he
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  Speaker 1: didn't invest in it the way that he did, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what wrestling looks like today, but it's probably
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  Speaker 1: not as big as it is now. I mentioned him
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  Speaker 1: airing Braves Baseball on what would later become TBS, but
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  Speaker 1: he also snatched Georgia Championship Wrestling away from a rival station.
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  Speaker 1: This was back in the early seventies and it did big,
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  Speaker 1: big numbers for him, so he added even more of it.
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  Speaker 1: And it was still a local station back then, but
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  Speaker 1: a few years later they started beaming it out on satellite,
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  Speaker 1: which is how people across the country had access to it,
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  Speaker 1: hence the idea of it becoming a superstation. And Wrestling
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  Speaker 1: was the first show on cable to hit a million viewers.
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  Speaker 1: It is very popular. And then there was Black Saturday
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four. If you've listened to this podcast
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  Speaker 1: for any length of time, you've heard me talk about
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  Speaker 1: Black Saturday. I even did a dark Side of the
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  Speaker 1: Ring review on the episode devoted to Black Saturday. In
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  Speaker 1: the Rise of Vince McMahon, the only show outside of
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  Speaker 1: WWE which was airing on USA Network at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and there had been another wrestling show on USA Network
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  Speaker 1: WWF got the slot, but the only other show outside
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  Speaker 1: of a Vince that had national cable was Georgia Championship
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  Speaker 1: Wrestling on TBS, and so Vince made an offer to
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  Speaker 1: Ted Turner to buy out the slot and Turner rejected him.
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  Speaker 1: So you can trace all of Vince's animosity towards Ted
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  Speaker 1: Turner back to this moment. Someone had the audacity to
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  Speaker 1: say no to him, right, you don't do that. You
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  Speaker 1: don't say no to Vince McMahon. But there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of turmoil behind the scenes with GCW at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Business was falling and Ole Anders is wondering where's the
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  Speaker 1: money going. There was a lot of shady shit going
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  Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. Jack and Jerry Briscoe and some
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  Speaker 1: of the other shareholders in Georgia had a secret meeting
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  Speaker 1: with Vince McMahon behind Olie's back. They never told Olie
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  Speaker 1: because Oly did not want to sell let alone to Vince,
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  Speaker 1: and behind his back they used their majority voting power
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  Speaker 1: to add a bylaw that the company could be sold
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  Speaker 1: without informing all of the shareholders or even allowing them
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  Speaker 1: to match any outside offers. So they sold their stock
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  Speaker 1: to Vince and that led to Black Saturday on TBS,
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  Speaker 1: where fans tuned in one day one morning expecting to
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  Speaker 1: see Gordon Soley's face, and instead they were greeted by
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  Speaker 1: Vincent Kennedy McMahon, who even brought Guerrilla mon Soon to
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  Speaker 1: the studio with him that day. I guess in case
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  Speaker 1: somebody wanted to kick his ass, he had Gorilla there
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  Speaker 1: with him his backup, or at least the so says
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Briscoe. No studio audience that people were used to seeing,
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  Speaker 1: no live matches. It was just Vince taking it to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of taped WWF matches from around the country
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  Speaker 1: with his guys, and the fans were not happy about this.
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  Speaker 1: They flooded the phone lines they were expressing their outrage.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Vince didn't give a fuck about GCW. He just wanted
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the time slot for his wrestlers, and he kept that
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: slot for about a year. Ratings went down. Turner worked
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: out a deal with Bill Watts to put Mid South
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Wrestling on TBS in a different time slot, which did
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: better numbers than Vince's show did, and so Vince kind
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of saw the writing on the wall. He figured Turner
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: was about to cancel the show. He worked out a
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: deal to sell the slot to Jim Crockett Junior for
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a million dollars, which he famously told Crockett, I'm gonna
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: make you choke on that million, and then you fast
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: forward to nineteen eighty eight. Crockett's in debt, he's about
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to shut down his promotion. He's on the verge, he's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: on the brink, and Ted Turner buys the company from him,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: not because the other executives who worked for Turner wanted
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: him to buy a wrestling company, quite the contrary, but
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: because Ted Turner had a lower he felt this sense
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of loyalty to wrestling, which had been so instrumental in
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the early success of TBS, even when the company was
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: losing money in the early nineties and WCW lost a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: lot of money. You know, there were executives at Turner
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Broadcasting in his ear telling him sell it or shut
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it down. He refused, he didn't want to hear it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And they were losing millions, right, not as many millions
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: as they would lose later on, but still, if they
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: were losing five million a year, eight million a year,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of money, you know, especially back then.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And it sucks too, because nineteen ninety two was an
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: incredible year for WCW that I didn't fully appreciate at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the time because I wasn't watching it as much as
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I was watching the other product. But I go back now,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and man, I mean even now on the WCW channel,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it's like the WCW vault that they have on YouTube,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and you look at some of the stuff they upload
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: from ninety two and even ninety three, and you look
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: at the talent roster that they had backed then, the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: matches they were producing. That is some of the best
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: stuff that WCW ever put out in the history of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that company, and yet they were losing so much money.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But Ted Turner is the man who signed off on
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Eric Bischoff bringing Hulk Hogan into WCW. That was the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: first real shot fired as far as trying to compete
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: with Vince McMahon because they had just signed away Vince's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: biggest star. Now he wasn't working for Vince anymore. It's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: not like he kind of in the middle of the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: night he went and rated Vince's top guy. Hogan had
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: been Vince's top guy for many years, but at that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: point he was doing Thunder and Paradise. He wasn't wrestling anymore. Still, though,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he signed away Vince's biggest star, who Vince had thought
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was on the downswing, trying to phase him down, phase
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: him out right. Oh, he's washed, doesn't have as much
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: value left. That's why he shifted to the new generation
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: model with guys like Brett Hart and Shawn Michaels. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he wasn't wrong. I mean, he had to create new
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: stars and Hogan was very passe to a lot of people.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But to say he had no value, I mean to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: say that Randy Savage, who Vince also had no interest
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in anymore and using in a major way had no
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: value as a draw was crazy, and so in nineteen
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: ninety five Hogan's There, Savage is there. Turner wants to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: know why are our ratings lower than WWE, And he
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: asked Eric Bischoff, what do we need to do to
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: compete with them? And Eric said, well, they're in primetime
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: on Monday nights. So Turner said, okay, give Eric an
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: hour in primetime every Monday night on TNT, and thus
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: WCW Monday Nitro was born. Nitro did not expand to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: two hours until the following year. It was actually a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Memorial Day in nineteen ninety six, the same night that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Scott Hall showed up. That's when Nitro officially moved to
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: two hours. It may be that the two hours that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Eric always refers to in that meeting. Oh you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Ted said give Eric two hours. The only thing I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: could think of is maybe when he says this, unless
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: again he's just forgetting is They did give WCW a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: replay every Monday night. There was a Nitro replay that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: would air the same night a few hours later, so
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it was the same show, but it was like the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: second hour technically was a replay. You hear him tell it,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: though you would think Ted gave him two hours of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: first run television every Monday night right out of the gate,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That's not the case. It was almost a year before
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the show would move to two hours, and Turner more
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: or less was hands off after that. When it came
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to WCW. He would check in on the ratings with
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Eric every Tuesday when the Nielsen numbers would come out,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: usually Tuesday, like late afternoon, but he left Bischoff to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: his own devices and Eric even He talked to Ariel
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Helwani this week about Turner's death, and he said that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: any decision up to a million dollars, he did not
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: even need to consult anybody at Turner. He did not
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: have to ask for a permission or approval. He just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: went and did it. If it was over a million,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: if it was a million one, he would have to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: run it up the flagpole. But he basically had an
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: open check book from Turner to sign whoever he felt
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: he needed, or make whatever changes he felt were necessary.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And it was that Turner money that brought in Hogan
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and Nash and Savage and Hall and all of these
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: different people, but like Hogan, Hall and Nash. Obviously that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: led to the creation of the nWo. And the creation
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of the nWo changed the business forever, and it led
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to WCW kicking WWE's ass for eighty three straight weeks
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in the ratings. They took WCW from a regional promotion
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: losing millions of dollars to the number one promotion in
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the world making millions for a good two years or
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: so before it all started to fall apart. I mentioned
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: again they didn't lose as much money in the early
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: nineties as they did in the late nineties. They got
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to a point where they lost over sixty million dollars
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in one year. That is quite the swing to go
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: from being the number one promotion making millions to losing
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: sixty million. I mean, that's quite the downfall. But Ted
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Turner is the only man to take the fight directly
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to Vince McMahon and kick his ass in a way
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that nobody else had done. And this irritated Vince like
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe Turner lived rent free in this man's head.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Vince always talked about it like he was at war
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: directly with Ted Turner. When the reality was ted, Turner
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: spent very little time even thinking about Vince McMahon or
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: really thinking about wrestling in general. Like Vince liked to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: think that he was more important than he really was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: outside of wrestling, and he couldn't stand that Turner was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: this big, successful medium mogul. But it's the story of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Vince's life. He was always seeking validation outside of wrestling.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Wrestling was a dirty word to him, right. He couldn't
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: stand just being known as a wrestling promoter, and he
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: failed each and every time outside of it, whether it
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: was movies or football or bodybuilding bodybuilding supplements. I guarantee
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you there's still a warehouse full of Ico pro bottles
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in Connecticut somewhere. But Bischoff, using Turner's money, made lots
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of changes that Vince had no choice but to respond
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to and to adapt to. Where do you think in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: your house? Pay per views came from WCW started running
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: monthly pay per views, so Vince followed suit, and then
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: eventually he expanded those shows from two hours to three
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: hours because that's what WCW was doing. Bischoff made sure
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Nitro had a real modern look and feel to it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: much better than what Raw looked like. Back then, Raw
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: looked like shit compared to Nitro in those early days.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And I say that as a
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: WWF fan at the time who watched a lot more
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Raw than I did Nitro, But Nitro just looked cooler,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and I always loved it when they would air the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: show outdoors at Universal or in Panama City Beach, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: outside for those spring break shows. WWF wasn't doing it
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: anything like that. So what happened We got Raw is
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: War with the Giant Titan tron to update the look
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of the show all right, Bishop brought in the Cruiserweights,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: which were one of the highlights of Nitro every week.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Eventually Vince started bringing in cruiserweights and international stars, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he made a big deal about signing Taka Michioku and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: had a press conference, and you think he did all
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that shit because he suddenly fell in love with those guys.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Eric made Nitro live every week. Eventually Vince did the same.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He had to. Eric was giving out spoilers for Raw
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: on Nitro every week. That used to piss me off,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe, because the first hour of Nitro
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was like early on anyway, was unopposed to Raw when
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: it was two hours, so I would tune into Nitro
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and Bischoff was still doing commentary at the time, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he'd be sitting there going, all right, and on the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: other show, the big guy is gonna eat a super
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: kick from the little guy. I'm like you, motherfucker. This
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: is what would happen every single week. Everything Bischoff in
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: WCW did, Vince followed suit and he tried to do
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it better. It motivated him to stop doing the same
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: old shit. This is why you need competition. This is
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: why competition is so I mean, there's a lot of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: reasons why competition is important, obviously for the talent as well,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but that's one of the reasons because when you get
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: lazy and you get complacent, you need somebody else to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: come along and do it better than you. Because nobody
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: wants to look bad, nobody wants to be shown up
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: by somebody else. Competition is the great motivator. And Vince
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: would always portray himself as the victim. Right, he will, Oh,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not a billionaire with an open check book like
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: billionaire Ted was right. That's where the billionaire Ted skits
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: came from Like I said, rent free, Vince would write
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: letters to Turner admonishing him for letting his wrestlers blade
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: on television. He called it barbaric, and then he turned
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: right around a few years later and he allowed his
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: wrestlers to blade every week in the Attitude era. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: guess yes, it was no longer barbaric to him, only
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: when somebody else did. It was at barbaric at a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: time when his product was more family friendly. So it
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't that he founded barbaric. It was that it's not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: fair that you can do it and we can't. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: if we can't do it, then nobody should be allowed
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to do it. All the letters he wrote to Turner,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: some of which have been published over the years, All
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the letters that he wrote to Ted Turner, I doubt
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: ted Turner ever responded to a single one of them.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if they made it to his desk. Meanwhile,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: all the things that he used to criticize and mock
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Turner for when it came to throwing his money around
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: being a billionaire, Vince did the exact same thing even
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: before he became a billionaire, Like just go back to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the territory days. All the talent that he rated from
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: other promotions. You think Holkomanias started in WWE, he nationalized it,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: he made it global. But that shit started in the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Twin Cities with Verne Gangya, Hulkamania, Me and Gene Okerland,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Bobby the Weasel, Jesse Ventura, on and on. All those guys.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: They were stars in the AWA before Vince signed them all.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But yet he turns around in the nineties and he
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: cries about Turner making money on the backs of stars
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that he created. Fast forward twenty five years. He's throwing
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: high six figures in seven figure contracts of guys who
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he would never give that kind of money to, just
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to keep them from signing with AAW. He didn't mind
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: throwing his money around then, and that's his right to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: do that. But the hypocrisy is it's so glaring. Not
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that Turner did anything wrong in his eyes, it's that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: somebody had the gall to do it to him. That's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: really what that was all about. But then it all
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: came crashing down with I mean, the worst media merger
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in history in the year two thousand, the infamous Aol
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Time Warner merger. Turner lost all of his power after that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: As I said before, WCW lost over sixty million dollar
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and at that point there was nothing he could do
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to save it. You know, he had always vowed to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: keep wrestling on his TV stations no matter what, but
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: he wasn't in charge anymore. He lost control of all
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of his assets, Turner Broadcasting, CNN, the Braves, all of it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: He lost billions of dollars. There was a period where
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he discussed the possibility of starting a new wrestling company.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: A bunch of people got together with him and the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: idea was that they would start a new company. They
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: would get it back on TNT or TBS. But he
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: was told that it would take about fifty million dollars
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to get it off the ground and really compete with
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Vince McMahon. And it's not that he didn't have the money,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: although he had a lot less money. It's not that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: he didn't have the money, but he didn't have as
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: much of it as he used to and he wasn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: willing to make that kind of investment. So he said no.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And that was as far as his involvement in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: wrestling world goes. That's pretty much where it came to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: an end. So I mean He should be a shoe
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: in for any wrestling Hall of Fame just based on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the influence that he had alone from putting it on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: his station in the seventies, buying Crockett Promotions in the eighties,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: starting the Monday Night War in the nineties. Honestly, outside
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of Vince McMahon and Hulk Hogan, name me a more
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: influential figure business wise in the history of pro wrestling.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: There is none. And you know what after Vince, because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Vince is number one. But after Vince, if you want
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to Turner at number two and Hogan at number three,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue it. I wouldn't argue either one of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: those positions. But I would say this for someone as
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: divorced from the day to day of the wrestling business
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: as Ted Turner was, someone who didn't live it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: breathe it every single day, he sure did leave his
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: mark on it. We learned this week through TKO's financials
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that WWE president Nick Kahn signed a deal on Monday
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that will keep him in the role through the year
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty. He will be paid two million dollars through
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the end of this year, and then three million dollars
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: per year through the end of his contract, and if
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that sounds kind of low, which does. He's also eligible
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: for annual bonuses of one hundred and fifty percent of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: his base salary for twenty twenty six and two hundred
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: percent of his base salary in twenty twenty seven through
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the end of his deal. And he is making many
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: more millions in stock awards. So for example, last year
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: he earned over twenty four million dollars based off two
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: million in base salary. So I think he's doing OK
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: for himself. It's not ari emmanual money, but I think
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: he's doing OK. But TKO announced their financials on Wednesday.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Total revenues increased to nearly one point six billion dollars
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: year over year, powered largely by WWE's four hundred and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: seventy five million and UFC's four hundred and one million.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: WWE's biggest first quarter driver was the Royal Rumble event
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: held in Saudi Arabia. No surprise there. Mark Shapiro said
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they are firmly moving ahead with scheduled events in Saudi
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and the region for both WWE and UFC, even and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: despite a challenging environment. I love how they describe these
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: things it's a challenging INVI, it's called a war. He
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: confirmed Saudi Arabia's PIF will not withdraw their financial commitment
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to TKO as they did with Live Golf. Yeah, they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: pulled out a Live Golf made this big financial commitment
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and they pulled out. So some people were wondering if
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: they were going to do the same with WWE, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he sounds pretty convinced that will not be the case.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Shapiro said that they were not concerned about ticket performance
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: whatsoever for wrestlemany of forty two, and that it was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: unrealistic to expect growth their year over years. So let
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: me stop there for a second. Now, look on an
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: earnings call, I would not expect them to say anything
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: else but the idea that they were not at all
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: concerned about ticket performance. And then you see what happened
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: with Pat McAfee's involvement and Ari Emanuel being involved then
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and we got to get him involved here and Pat
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: McAfee going on television to make a big announcement, the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: big announcement turning out to be a twenty five percent
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: discount on all tickets for Night one. Fuck off with
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: this notion that you weren't concerned about a ticket performance.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Fuck off, nobody believes you. They said it was still
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: one of the highest gates in WWE history and outperformed
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: anywhere else that they could have held the show this year.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And he also defended against the criticism of WWE creative,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: saying that they listened to all feedback, but what they've
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: been hearing is not new criticism, so therefore it must
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: not be valid. He said there is no magic formula
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and no magic serum to adding the commercial element into
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: WWE's presentation, and that it's a trial and error. Over time,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: they have pushed boundaries for events, leading into or leaning
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: into some more than others. I will say this though,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: when it comes to backlash, which I'm going to talk
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: about here in a second. When it comes to backlash
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: last night, it was noticeable that there was a lighter
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: commercial element to the show, at least in terms of
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like the ring and just like the ringside area the ring,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: matt was not totally clean, but it was mostly clean.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: They had the giant WWE logo in the middle. The
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: only logos they had beyond that were in each of
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the four corners. They had their ri odd season and
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that was it. You know, usually they'll have some sort
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of title sponsor in the center. I thought that was
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: part of their deal with Logan Paul's Prime Energy drink,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: at least for the plees. Maybe it ran out. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: then on the turn buckles it was just the WWE logo.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: You look at WrestleMania. It was a vastly different, vastly
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: more commercial look. I noticed it last night. It was
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: nice because we don't need the sensory overload all the time.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I get wanting to have a title sponsor or something
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: here and there. Maybe, but like they go overboard with it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Like he said, they're testing boundaries. They're pushing boundaries to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the point where they're basically breaking and they're trying to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: figure out, okay, is too much, you know, too much,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's not enough. And it was noticeably less
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: so last night. Hopefully that's a thing going forward. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if that was just a one time thing,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: but we'll see, but I was it was definitely noticeable
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to me last night. Now, there was a news side
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: in this week about Ireland. Our friends over in Ireland
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they are making a competitive bid for a future WrestleMania.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: It says Ireland is well placed to put in a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: bid to host WrestleMania in the future. Maurice Shortall, the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: counselor for Kill Kenny Hey They Killed Kenny, told Irish
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Mirror that Ireland is in a good position to put
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: in a competitive bid in light of their strong positioning
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: as an international tourism brand. He said. As a globally
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: recognized event with the capacity to attract tens of thousands
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of international visitors and generate substantial international media exposure, WrestleMania
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: presents a significant opportunity for Ireland to strengthen its position
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: as a leading destination for major event tourism. The wider
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: regional benefit to countries such as kilk or counties not
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: countries such as Kilkenny, would be substantial, with strong potential
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for tourism spillover, increased domestic travel and enhanced international visibility
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for Ireland's secondary tourism destinations. So how about that WrestleMania
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in Ireland. I can get behind that. I've never been
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to Ireland before. That could be very interesting. Have a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: lot of listeners in Ireland. Se Scoops reported this week
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that Alistair Black was in active negotiations with all Elite Wrestling,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and then AW came out and denied to Fightful that
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: they have entered into discussions with Alistair Black, who is
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: still technically under contract with WWE, so they may have
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to deny it publicly. I mean, they don't need another
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: mess like the one they had with Andrade when they
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: just put him on TV. So I don't know, you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle of maybe
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: feelers have been sent out, maybe there's no active negotiations
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: going on, I don't know. But in terms of him
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: potentially going back to AAW, maybe this time with his wife,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: maybe Zelena comes over this time. Look, I mean, if
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: he wants to work for a major promotion to make
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: major money, his options are going to be very limited.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I think if he or both of them wanted to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: just get out there on the independent scene, and they
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: can work with pretty much whoever they want to without
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: putting pen to paper and signing a formal contract. It's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: not like they're going to be hurting for money. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: think they'll get a lot of opportunities. I think there's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of promotions that would love to work with
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: him and bring him in or bring them both in.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's not going to be making the kind
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of money you know, in some of these other places
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that he would if he was working either for WWE
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: or if he was working for AW, So he may
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: want to go back there. And I think Jim Ross
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: on this podcast not too long ago, came out and
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: said that, to his knowledge, there's no burn Bridges there.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You know. It was a weird situation again because he
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: was in the company for so many years and had
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: very little singles matches, especially in his last few years,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and he would get very upset about it when people
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: started speculating on social media though maybe he's hurt. Maybe
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you know, he had a back injury, maybe his back
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: is bothering him. And he had to come out and say,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: my back is fine, I feel fine. Don't ask me.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not the one you should be asking. As far
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: as why he wasn't being you know, put out there
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: more often in singles matches, So he never really got
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a straight answer about that. I don't know. I don't
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: know what to make of that. It was a very
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: weird thing him going back there. I can't imagine him
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: being in a much better position than the one he
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: was in previously. So if he left because he was
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: unhappy and not just because he wanted to go work
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: for Triple H since the whole creative situation had changed
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: since he left the company, if he was genuinely unhappy
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: with his position in AW, I don't know that him
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: going back is going to make him any happier. You know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: he's a talented guy. I think he could contribute, But
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: if he does go back there, I really I don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: see him being in a position any better than the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: one he was in before. Sources tall fightful select dot
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Com that on the day of the mass releases, WWE
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: approached numerous talents and asked them to take pay cuts
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in order to remain with the company, and several of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: them were given two days to make that decision, not
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of time. Brian Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Live
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: this week had this to say, from what I understand,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: these people who have been asked to restructure their deals
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: are people who are upper midcardish, maybe even higher than that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: The ones I've heard they've been around for a long
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: time and they were making a lot of money. We're
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: not talking about a guy like Roman Reigns or a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: guy like seth Rollins, those guys, the very tippy top
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: main eventors. They're not going to be asking those guys
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to restructure their deals. If you are low on the card,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you're probably not making enough that they're going to bother
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: with you. So the reason that there's a specific window
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it appears people that are being asked to restructure is
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: because these people sign pretty big money deals quite a
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: while ago, and they've been making that money for a
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: while and now they're not where they were. Their justification
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: is things are very different now than when you sign
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: this deal. Yes, we are asking you to take less money,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: but their argument is you're doing significantly less now. You're
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not doing four house shows a week, you're not on
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the road four days a week, paying for your transportation
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and your hotel and this, and that you're on the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: road one day a week. You're wrestling maybe twice a month,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and we want to pay you less because you're doing
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: less now. That is their mindset, And that's fine, except
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: for the fact that you signed a contract for a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: certain amount of money and therefore they should honor the contract,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: plain and simple. I have no sympathy for TKA. Oh well,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: they're not running as many house shows anymore. Yeah, you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: know what, They're not running hardly any house shows anymore,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and yet they're grossing more money than they ever have.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: They actually scaled back on house shows, but the company
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: is making more money now than they were before. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: have no sympathy for this company when it comes to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the idea that they want to cut people's pay because
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: we're not doing this and you're not working these shows.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Tough shit. When the deal is up, you can offer
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: them a significantly less deal and then it's up to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: them if they want to sign it or not. But otherwise,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: honor the fucking contract. Backlash was last night in Tampa.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Not a whole lot to this show, with only five matches,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: no title changes, no major angles outside of Jacob Fatu
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: snapping after the main event, and what may or may
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: not have been a heel turn. But the show ended
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: in less than three hours because they wanted it done
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: before the UFC cards started at nine o'clock. I'm assuming
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and you get no pushback for me on that. I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was live on YouTube by nine point thirty last night.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: The big announcement, though, that we did have on this
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: show concerned John Cena and coming into this John Cena
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: was really hyping this up on social media. There's going
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to be some big, epic, historic announcement. You'll want to
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: tune in for this. And so he walked out there
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and he's in his pinstripe three piece suit, and I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: saw one person say that he is morphing into a
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: real life Lance Catamaran from Southpaw Championship Wrestling, and now
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I can't unsee it. I actually said on my review
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that he's looking more like a younger Vince McMahon. But yes,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he does look like Lance Catamaran now. And so shockingly,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the announcement was not directly tied into Club WWE, which
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: is their new fan service, their new fan club that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: they're rolling out. We still don't even know the annual
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: membership fees or anything like that, but he's kind of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the face of it right now as they've started to
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: really turn up the hype machine for it. So a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: lot of people assumed it was going to be tied
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: into Club WWE some sort of perk, but it also
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't. But it also is not going to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: shake the very foundation, as they said of WWE. It
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: isn't anything epic. They use these words to describe these things,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and they never live up to expectations. But I also
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: don't hate it. I don't hate what he announced quite
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: as much as I see some people hating on it,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: although I do hate aspects of it, at least as
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the way he described them. This thing sounds like it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a work in progress, is what it sounds like. What
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it is. It will be an event, the John Cena Classic,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: based around the idea of WWE main roster stars wrestling
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: NXT stars, so very similar to what he pushed for
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: on his retirement show in December, and he also said
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that he will be introducing a new championship for it,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: which is exactly what we don't need. Sina said, the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: fans will get to vote on who the champion is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: going to be. Everybody competing. Everybody competing is going to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: be eligible to win the championship, So even if somebody
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't win their match or matches, they can still earn
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the respect of the audience and win via fan voting,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: which sounds totally fucked if you're awarding a championship. So basically,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: it's a showcase for NXT talents to impress the fans
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and get over which is great and I have no
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: issue with that, but it's just a popularity contest. If
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you're awarding a championship to somebody who goes out there
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and loses, then all it is is a popularity contest.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily tournament style. I don't remember
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: him using that word. I see people calling it a tournament.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know where they're getting that from. It may
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: end up being a tournament, but I don't believe he
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: actually used that word. We don't know exactly what the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: format is going to be yet. It sounds to me
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: like it's just going to be a series of matches,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: just like we had on Saturday Nights made event when
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: we had Cody and Oba and we had Sol, Ruka
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and Bailey. Not necessarily tournament like, like fucking Mortal Kombat style. Well,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: we don't even know the when or where of when
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: or where this show is taking place. There was no
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: mention of it now. Their ple schedule is wide open
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: right now in July, unless they're going to throw Evolution
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: on there. Again, there's no ple scheduled outside of a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Saturday Night's main event at Madison Square Garden, and maybe
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that's the place. I think July eighteenth, I believe it is.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the place that they plan on doing it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: This is not their first time dipping their toe in
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the fan voting waters. I mean, they did it with
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: their Taboo Tuesday pay per views over twenty years ago.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And the Taboo Tuesday concept was a fail because doing
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: a pay per view on a Tuesday just isn't going
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: to work. They tried it in nineteen ninety one, it
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: didn't work. Then they tried it again in two thousand
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and four with Taboo Tuesday. Maybe how many Taboo Tuesdays
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: did we have two? I want to say they did
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it twice, and then it converted over to Cyber Sunday,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: which was the same exact thing, but on a Sunday
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: instead of a Tuesday. And then after that and Cyber
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Sunday was maybe a few years and they did away
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: with the concept because it just doesn't work. It's a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: TV concept. To me, it's a TV gimmick. It's not
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a gimmick you use for pay per views, which is
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: why I always hated those shows, because you don't know
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: most of the matches that you're going into it. You're
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: paying money for these shows This is pre WWE network,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: so you're paying whatever the f fifty bucks, whatever it is,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and you don't even know what the matches are or
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: most of the matches. I think it's fine to use
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: as a TV gimmick like once a year, but that's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: all I would do with it, right. It makes the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: fans feel like they're part of the show if you
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: trust that the voting is legitimate, which supposedly it always
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: was with the Cyber Sunday stuff, but really, I mean,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: there's no way to prove it, and these days I
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even trust it. I think this is something that
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Johnsena legitimately came up with on his own. I think
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: he pitched it to them and they went for it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: He's the one who pushed for NXT stars to wrestle
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: WWE stars the same night that he wrestled go Bruce
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Pritchard supposedly wanted it to be a one match show
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: built around John Cena against Gunther and nothing else, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it was seen his idea to do it the way
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: that they did, which was for the better. I think
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: he's still trying to navigate his post WWE career. I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: think he's still trying to figure out what his post
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: in ring life with them is going to look like.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And this is his way of giving back by shining
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a light on the men and women coming up. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: know he's very big on Will Cruz, for example, who
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: just debuted on NXT. He got his new name, Mason Rook.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I think this entire thing is designed for him to win.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I'm sure he'll be a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: part of it. Kendall Gray, I mean people like that. Again.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I like the concept of it. I don't know about
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the execution. You know, it doesn't have to be an
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: NXT talent who gets voted in as the champion either.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: It could be a main roster star, I would assume.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And I hope this isn't just the way to get
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: a belt on someone like Obafemi without having him wrestle
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: for a title that actually matters. We'll put the John
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Cena Classic Belt on him instead. I hope that's not
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: what this is designed for. Hopefully, this championship they're creating
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: is a once a year trophy type deal, you know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like the Andre Battle Royal or those Crown jewel belts
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: that they keep under lock and key in Saudi that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: don't mean anything, and it's not something that actually gets defended,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: like aw does this with the owen Hart Tournament. You
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: get a belt, but they don't get defended. If it's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: something like that, to me, then that's that's fine, right.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I don't get the impression that it is meant to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: be something that's being defended during the year. I think
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that would be fucking terrible. But WWE wants John Cena
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: involved in some capacity, and this is their way of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: keeping him happy and keeping him involved. And if Sena
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: wants to use it as a way to get a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: new face or two over and up to the main roster,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: then that's fine. I just hope they flesh out the
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: rules and the details a little bit better, because at
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the end of the segment, Seena himself was like, man
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I hope this works. Those are the words that he
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: actually said, man I hope this works, even he's not
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: sure if this is gonna work. I hope it works too.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But you know it's your idea, dude, You've got to
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: find a way to make it work. That's not up
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to us. Bron Breaker beat seth Rollins correct outcome in
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: that match that actually had a good match that was
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the match they used to open the show in that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: first hour on ESPN two. A few you know, rough
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: moments in the match, but I still thought it was
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: good overall, and it was a win. That breaker I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: think needed more than Rollins. Obviously, they're going to run
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: this back again. Rollins will probably win the next one,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: but I think they had the right outcome here. Trick
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Williams he retained the United States Championship over Sammy Zain,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: also on ESPN two. I thought it was better than
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: their WrestleMania match. They got a little more time. But man,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you know, after sitting through all the gingerbread shit on Friday,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and if you tuned into my SmackDown review, then you
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: know my thoughts on that whole thing. After all the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: gingerbread garbage from Friday, and then to tune in here
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: and just watch Sammy lose again. I'm not sure what
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the point of any of that was. If Sammy was
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: just going to go in there and lose. So now
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the Trick has beaten him twice, and this was really
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to let people know WrestleMania was no fluke. Trick is
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the real deal. Okay, great, I don't know what that
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: means for Sammy going forward. But that's the end of this.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to run
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: this back again. He beat him twice. The fuck do
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: we need a third match for So Trick is going
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: to move on to somebody else. Whether that's Carmelo Hayes
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: or somebody else, I don't know, because I get the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: impression the open challenges are done, and so is this feud.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, that Dan Hausen had a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: match on this show, it was going to be Dan
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Housen and a mystery partner against the Miz and Kit Wilson.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: A lot of speculation about who the mystery partner was
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: going to be. Whenever you do a mystery partner gimmick
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: like this again, people are going to have and expectations
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in their mind. But I was hearing some wild names.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I was hearing because yeah, Dan Housen was like, I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: trying to get the legends the team with me. So
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: there were some legends that people were floating. Shane McMahon,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I saw his name out there. The big one was
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: cm punk, and evidently the betting odds were betting on
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: cmpunk being the partner I don't know why people thought
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: realistically it was going to end up being him. I
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be jelly Roll more than
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: CM Punk. I was happy to be wrong about that
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: because I didn't want to see jelly Roll on this show.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But I can't also say that I wanted to see
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: El Trito back either, But that's who we got. His
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: mystery partner turned out to be the famous Mexican mini
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Mascarita Segrata aka L Torrito Back in the day, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: remember the days of El Turito and Los Matadors on
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw. Maybe some of you have tried to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: put it out of your mind. So he was dressed
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: up as a miniature version of Dan Housen. He emerged
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: from this box. It was the cloning Machine. Dan Hausen
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: had decided that in order to find a tag team partner,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: he needed to clone himself. So in addition to all
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of the comedy bullshit with the gingerbread Man on Friday Night,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: we had the Dan Housen stuff where he was in
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: the back in his own little makeshift laboratory with all
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: of his test tubes and everything, and he was trying
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to create this cloning machine. This cloning device and yes,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: this is this is how I spent my Friday night.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Don't judge me. So here there's a giant box and
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: who's a Bruce who once said famously, anything out of
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: a box is automatically over, which wasn't the case with
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Dan Housen. When he first debuted by the way an
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: elimination chamber, people have warmed up to him. So that's
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: where Minnie Housen came from. And they had a match
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and I think people myself included, I was wondering like, okay,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: this is this is you know, a little red herring
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they're throwing at us, right, this is going to lead
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: whoever the actual reveal is Nope, that was the actual reveal.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: So they did Dan Housen and his miniature partner against
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: these two men. They had a comedy match Mascarita Sigrada.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: He's he's a talented wrestler, so he was doing had
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: scissor takeovers and dives and all kinds of shit, and
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the fans were getting into it. Now, at first, the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: fans booed because once they came down to the ring
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: in the match started, I think people like reality set
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: in and they were like, fuck, this is the partner.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: You heard the booze from part of the crowd, and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: by the end of this, when it was over, the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: fans liked it and the fans were cheering, so they
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: actually did win them over, at least the fans who
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: didn't like it at first, they seemed to win them
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: over by the end. I said last night, I go,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: you know what, I was sports entertained. This match had
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: no business being on this show, on a so called
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: premium live event with only five matches. That was my
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: issue with it. It had no business being on the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: show considering all the other names who were left off
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: this card, And to be honest with you, my issue
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: with a lot of these premium live events is that
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: there's nothing premium about them. You get some good wrestling matches,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: but there is nothing premium about these wweplis. So this
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: should have been on smack Down. There should not have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: been on this show. Outside of that though, for what
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: it was, for what it was meant to be, I
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: was amused by it. I was entertained enough by it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't hate this. I didn't you think, oh my god,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: this is the worst match I've ever seen. I've watched
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: enough wrestling to know that this was by no means
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the worst match that I've ever seen. It served its purpose,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it was fine, It was fine for what it was
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: meant to be. And I'm just glad that we didn't
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: get Jelly Roll or some other celebrity in this spot,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. And of course Dan Housen
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: won in the end, everybody was happy. There was a
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: spot during the match where Minnie Housen ended up back
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: in the cloning machine. Kit Wilson threw him in there
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: thinking he got rid of the little guy. The door
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: opened and basically he had cloned himself, and so now
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: there was an army of Minnie Danausen's that were attacking
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Kit Wilson. Yes, I don't think I need to say
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: anything else about this EO Sky against OSCA. This was
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the best thing on the show. It was this the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: main event and the Breaker Rollins match in that order.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: And this is also a match I was looking forward
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: to for a very long time. Believe it or not.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: This actually went a shade longer than the main event did.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: They got slightly more time than Roman Reigns and Jacob
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Fato did, which just blows my mind. And come the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: end of this match and the way Oscar was behaving,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I think maybe the reason why they made sure she
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: got plenty of time is because she ain't going to
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: be around anymore. But they went out there and they
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: had a good match. I enjoyed that there was no
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: last minute Kyrie saying Cameo. I was hoping for one.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: But I would also like to think that they did
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: reach out to her and she just let all of
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: their phone calls go to voicemail. I hope that's what happened.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Plenty of we want Kyrie chance though, right from the
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: opening bell, and they had a very good match and
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Eo picked up the win in the end, and so
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: we didn't get the big Kyrie moment. What we did
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: get was Osca embracing Eo when it was over all
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the bad blood just washed away and they embraced and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Osca was clearly very emotional and she was waving to
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the crowd with a big smile on her face. And
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I said, like, when this was over, this had a
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: certain vibe to it that made me think that we're
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: not going to be seeing Oscar at least for a while,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: if not ever again as an active wrestler. Here on
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: this show, and so Dave Meltzer mentioned a Wrestling Observer
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: radio last night. This is the comment that he made.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: The story I heard is that she is semi retired.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I haven't really gotten an exact meaning of what semi
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: retired means, but I guess people were wishing her goodbye
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and things like that backstage. So I don't know if
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: that means she's going to Japan and still wrestle. I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: don't know if that means she's going to still do
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: stuff here and there. But I was told semi retired.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Something is definitely going on because Bailey, Charlotte Flair, Shinsky,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Nakamura and others all very cryptically. We're posting photos with
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: no context or anything to it, just posting photos. I
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: think was it Knakamura's. Well, somebody posted like a photo
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: of Oscar black and white, like the woman fucking died.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: But they're all posting these cryptic images. So clearly she's
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: going away at least for a while. We don't know
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: if she's retired. We don't know what semi retired would entail.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I hear semi retired, and that just tells me that
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: she would be available for special occasions and or maybe
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: if she is done with WWE. She does work, you know,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: some events in Japan, and she'll wrestle from time to time,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: but she's not going to be full time anymore. You know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: She's been doing this for a very long time. She's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: been in WWE alone, going back to the NXT days
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: for about eleven years or so. Now. Yeah, I know
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: she's in her mid forties or you know, in WWE
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: speak her prime. So I would hate it if she
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: just sort of hung it up and that was it,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: very unceremoniously, that was the end of Oscar. I mean, man,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, think of all the names over the past
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: year that have stepped away, including you know, Goldberg, but like,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. But to add her name to the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: list would be a very sad thing because I still
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: think that she has more to contribute. Realistically, WWE is
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: not going to really focus on her. They haven't focused
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: on her in years, so I'm not expecting another monster
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: run like she had an NXT you know, a decade ago.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: But she definitely you watched that match last night with EO,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: she definitely has more to give. So I hope this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: isn't the end for her. I hope this isn't the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: end for her in WWE. We don't know what's going
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: on exactly behind the scenes. Clearly though, she is going
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to go away for a while, because all of these
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: people would not be posting these cryptic images and wishing
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: her goodbye, I guess behind the scenes unless she was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: going to go away for a while. So we'll have
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: to wait and see how that plays out. What EO
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: is going to do now going forward, I don't know,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: but Live Morgan is going to need a challenger for
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the Women's World Championship. She really doesn't have anybody to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: work with right now. Soul Ruka looks like she's gonna
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: be working with Becky Lynch. Who does Live Morgan work with?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Who does Live Morgan defend the Women's World Championship against
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: EO's right there. I don't think there's anybody else even
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: on deck that makes sense right now for Live Morgan
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: to work with Roman Reigns. He retained his World Heavyweight
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Championship over Jacob Fati in a good main event with
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: a clean finish, no less, no outside interference, no bloodline bullshit,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: no usos. He must have got that Tonguan death grip
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: applied on Roman five times, four or five times during
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: their match, and it's such a deadly lethal maneuver. Roman
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: got out of it every single time. Hell of a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: way to get it over a new finishing hold by
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: using him multiple times, and you still can't win the match.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: But in the end Roman beats fat Tu just by
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the skin of his teeth. It was a hell of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a battle it took to beat this man. And when
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the match was over, Jacob Fatsu lost his shit. He snapped,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: He reapplied the tongue in death grip another two or
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: three times. He had to be pulled physically pulled off
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of Roman by officials and he was beating them up too.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: He threw Adam Pierce out of the ring at one point,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: and the final parting shot here on this show is
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Jacob Fatu standing over Roman's body, holding up the World
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Heavyweight Championship and being booed. So it felt like this
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: was meant to be a heel turn here. Maybe it's not.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just him being a wild man and he's
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: kind of in that tweener territory, but that's what it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: felt like to me watching this. I like the finish.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I liked the way they did it because Jacob was
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: never gonna win. Realistically, he was not winning the title here,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So then how do you do the finish? Sure, you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: can have a ref bump. You can have Jimmy and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Jay run in, or Solo Socoa run in, or Royce
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Keys helping, you know, Jacob Fatu. There's any number of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: things you could do here. And you can overbook this
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: to all hell, or you could let these two guys
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: go out there for eighteen minutes and have a pretty
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: good wrestling match with a clean finish and then shoot
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the angle when the match is over. And that's what
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: they did. And now Roman is going to go away
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: for at least a few weeks, and Jacob is now
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: this unstoppable, dangerous monster that they have established him as.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Roman is scheduled to wrestle at Clash in Italy. So
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I think we get the rematch at the end of
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: this month. I don't even think we're gonna have to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: wait until June or July or anything like that. I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: think we're probably gonna get it on the thirty first,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: and then Roman, I don't believe, is scheduled again until
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the final raw of June's so then he would disappear
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: for a month and then reappear I think on June
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, it is, And that doesn't sound too cool.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: If he's going to hold onto the World Heavyweight Championship
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and then vanish for another month, that sucks. But we
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: are going to get a rematch between these two, maybe
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: with a stipulation. Maybe at that point we get some
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: bloodline involvement and they shoot some kind of big, a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: shocking twist, but shoots some sort of angle at that point.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: But as for last night, their first meeting, I thought
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: it went well. And now we will see in the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: absence of Roman over these next few weeks, is thoughts
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you're going to continue to appear on both shows? Is
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: it going to be exclusive to one show over the other?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Are the officially moving him to Raw. We still don't
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: know where CM punk is gonna land. He's been gone
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: for a few weeks. There's still a lot of questions
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: left to be answered. But when the show was over,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a good show in terms of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the matches that we had. We had mostly good matches
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: here on this show. It's just there's nothing premium about
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: shows like this. They called them premium live events. I know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: it's just a name because they're technically not pay per
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: views anymore, so we have to come up with something
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: else to call them. And they're called premium live events,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: but there's nothing premium about them. It really does feel
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: like a glorified episode of Saturday Night's main event. This
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: week's episode is sponsored by Wicks. Up until recently, I
• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:56
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  Speaker 1: Dynamite Wednesday, Darby Allen successfully defended his aw World title again,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: this time against the TNT champion Kevin Knight. This after
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: successful defenses against Tamaso Champa and Brody King and then
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: again over Pack. Last night on Collision, which I have
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: to say, I went back and I watched it after
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Backlash last night. It was a live one hour special
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: from a very unique location. It was only an hour
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: because the other hour of Collision came after Dynamite. On Wednesday,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: they did a three hour block, so I guess they
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: didn't want to do a four hour block, so they
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: saved the other hour for last night and they held
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: it at the Sofi Center in West Palm Beach, Florida,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: which is an indoor golf course, hence the fair Way
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: to Hell name for the show last night. The place
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: has an indoor arena, a small arena, but it also
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: has an indoor golf simulator, so they had a ring setup,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: but behind it was this wide open area with nothing
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: but greens and a sand trap in the middle, which
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Darby Allen Impact fought in during their match. I fucking
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: loved this. We need more of this. We need more
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: unique wacky wrestling venues. Mall of America for the first
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: nightro those old spring Break shows from Club Lavila with
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: the pool next to the ring, the old Shotguns Saturday
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: night shows that Vince used to do from Penn Station
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: and Webster Hall. I love shit like that. This was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: one of the more unique venues for a wrestling show
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. Tony Khan has said that he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: wants to make this an annual event, but he wants
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to add a charity golf tournament during the day that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: he would call Fairway to Heaven and then he would
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: do Fairway to Hell would be the wrestling show in
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the evening, and he claims he's had talks with the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: PGA about collaborating with them. I think it's a great concept.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Had a couple of people tweet me who went to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the show. One guy paid one hundred bucks for his seat.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: He had a blast. Somebody else paid thirty bucks and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: had fun. I'd have more fun for thirty bucks too,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: if I spent thirty bucks over one hundred bucks. But
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I mean thirty bucks. You can't beat that. But Darby
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Allen be Pack last night after being tossed off a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: balcony fifteen feet down through a bunch of tables, and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: then Pack rushed down. He airlifted him back to the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: ring and then Darby still kicked out. It's all very absurd,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: but it's all very on brand for a Darby Allen match.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I will say this, he has been having some fun
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: matches during this run, but they are shotgunning these matches
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: so quickly. It's plain his day because he is dropping
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the belt back to MJF before we even get to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the month of June. Now, he was supposed to defend
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the title this Wednesday against Kazuchka Okada. That is not happening.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Don Kallis last night said that Okada got called back
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: to Japan on some personal business. I don't believe him,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: so taking his place will be Kenoski Takeshta, who he
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: said now Takeshta was there and he said, I'm still
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: gonna beat Okada at double or Nothing for the international title,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: but now I will also be the aw World champion.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: And then he looked into the camera he goes unlike Okada.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see Okada show up on
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Wednesday and cost him the title now and then flip
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: them off and call him a bitch to add even
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: more heat to their match. Maybe there is something going
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: on with Okada. Hopefully Now this felt like an angle
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: to me, but then the more I think about it,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: it's like Okata got himself a world championship match, so
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: why would he voluntarily back out of it. Hopefully everything
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: is okay, but I'm still expecting him to show up
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: in fuck takesha Over at the end of that match.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Darby did tell MJF this week that they are going
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: to have a contract signing this week for double or Nothing.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: He is willing to give him the rematch he wants
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: should Max choose to accept his stipulation for said rematch,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: which is that if MJF has to put something on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the line, it will have to be his hair. Darby's
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: been saying that MJF needs to put something on the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: line if he wants that rematch. He doesn't want to Scarf.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want the dynamite diamond ring, he doesn't want
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: a million dollars that MJF offered to put up. He
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: wants his hair. And I've rolled my eyes at this
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, whatever, they've been building this
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: stipulation that for weeks here. But it's not like they
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: weren't going to do this match, right. They were always
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: going to be running this back at the next pay
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: per view, But now Darby is playing off of Mjf's vanity.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: They talk about his trips to Turkey for his hair
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: transplant all the time on TV. Hangman made fun of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: him for multiple people talk about it. Now they're incorporating
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: it into the story here by saying if you want
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: this rematch, this is what you need to do. And
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: then if Darby wins, he's gonna shave this man bald,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna take away something that very clearly is
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: important to him. If he's gonna fly halfway around the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: world and spend thousands of dollars on it, then it
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: must mean something to him. So that's why we're getting
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: title versus hair at double or nothing. And it's not
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: like we haven't seen hair stipulations in wrestling before, So whatever,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: it's fine. Mark Davis wrestled Jack Perry on this show
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and Mark David I was very happy to hear this.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I had people tell me in the live chat when
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I was talking about Backlash last night, they go, Mark
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Davis is a champion. I go, what, he was already
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: one third of the trios champions for like a week,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: but who gives a shit about the trios belts. Mark Davis,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: dunk Zilla is the new AEW National champion. He beat
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Jack Perry for the belt with an assist from Ricochet,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: who showed up looking like fucking Kerwin White. He shows
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: up with a golf club, he hits Jack Perry in
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the back with it, referee didn't see it, and then
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Davis hits a pile driver and he pins him to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: win the belt. And I for one, am very happy
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: for Mark Davis. I'm a fan of Mark Davis. I
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: thought that you know him and Jack Jack Doyle, Jake Doyle,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Jack Perry, Jake Perry, Jake Doyle, Jack Doyle, it's all
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: the same shit. But when Jake Doyle went down with
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: that injury back in January, I said, well, this sucks
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: for Mark Davis because he's on the back burner now
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: and Tony Khan has given him consistent television time. Again.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: He's a brawler. He goes out there. He's you know,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the big guy type who goes out there and just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: brawls with people. He's not out there doing a lot
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: of technical stuff. But I enjoy his matches, even though
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: he fucking loses all the time. I generally enjoy the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: matches that he's in, and I was happy to see
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: that Tony didn't just kind of put him, you know,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: back in catering and let him sit back there and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: wait for an opportunity. He's putting him on the shows consistently.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: He is actually one of the more focused, I would say,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: members of the Kallus family, especially now that Kyle Fletcher
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: is out. He gets more screen time than most. And
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: to see him, you know, hold a championship, of which
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: they have many in this company. I don't know how
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: long of a run he's going to have, and the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: national title hasn't really been established as anything terribly significant,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him. I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: was very very surprised, but also in a pleasant way
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: to see him win that Championship last night, so that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: was good. Now, Jack Perry, after being screwed by Rikoshet
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: in his title match, has now recruited Kenny Omega and
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: the Young Bucks to join him, And I would presume
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the Hurt Syndicate and Chris Jericho against Rikochet and the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Gates of Agony at double or nothing in what Ricochet
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: had said was going to be a stadium stampede match.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, this match has ballooned into something
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: much larger that I thought it was going to be.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Ricochet had a conversation last night with Don Kallus where
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Callous agreed to give him Mark Davis, and then they
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: were going to go off and discuss other potential Callus
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: family members who would join in. This fucking match has
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden ballooned into at least seven on
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: seven is what it looks like. Because the Hurt Syndicate
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: showed up on Wednesday to come to Jericho's aid when
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: he was being beaten down by Rikoshet and GOA, So
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you would assume Bobby Lashley's Shelton Benjamin They're going to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: be a part of this. So we're looking potentially at
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: a team with Jericho, Bobby Lashley, Shelton, Benjamin, Kenny Omega,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson, and Jack Perry against Ricochet, Toto, Leona,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Bishop Kahn, Mark Davis and then what with three more people,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: four more people. This is gonna be an absolute mess,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: is what this is good? Especially me taking notes watching
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: that pay per view. There's gonna be an absolute mess.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: They've also added a four way to the double or
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Nothing car for the aw Women's World title. It'll be
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Tekla defending against Jamie Hayter, Chris Statlander and Hikarushita Statlander
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: and Shida. They have their own story going on. Shida
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: feels like she's on the verge of a heel turn.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Hard for me to imagine her winning the belt. I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: would not be taking that belt away from Tecla right now,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: but something will probably go down with her and Statlander,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I would imagine in that match. Since they have been
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: telling that something's gonna happen between Speedball and Kevin Knight too,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: it just feels to me, I mean, I don't know
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: about a Speedball heel tern, but actually, you know what,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: it feels more like a Kevin Knight heel term may
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: becoming more than speedball. Some's definitely going down with those
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: two in the not too distant future. There's something going
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: on there. And the men's and women's brackets for this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: year's owen Hart Foundation tournaments will be announced this Wednesday
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: on Dynamite, And so let's see if my idea is
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: correct and the brackets set up a potential John Moxley
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: will ospury final on the men's side, because that's where
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is headed. Some other news and notes,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I got some legal news and notes beyond the Rajah
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Jackson stuff I mentioned earlier. Former CMLL and Triple A
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: star Quatrero was found guilty this week of domestic violence
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: and attempted femicide against his former girlfriend current ww E
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: star Stephanie Viquaire. He will be sentenced this coming Tuesday now.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: The alleged incident that led to all of this took
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: place in mar of twenty twenty three and saw Quatrero
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: arrested following a Triple A show after they had an
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: argument in their apartment and he allegedly grabbed her by
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: the throat and tried to strangle her, threw her backwards
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: into a wall, where a heavy picture frame fell on her,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: causing additional injuries. Now he claims that she was violent
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: towards him and the lead up to this. Charges were
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: escalated from domestic violence to attempted femicide after authorities viewed
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: photos of her neck injuries. You know, it's one thing
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: to be charged to another to be found guilty of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: those charges, which he now has been, and that attempted
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: femicide charge is a very serious one down there. For
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: that alone, he faces up to thirty years in prison.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Now he's likely not going to get the max, but
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: let's say he does. Right, Let's just game this out
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: here and say he gets thirty years, right, then you
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: tack on another four to eight years on the domestic
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: violence charge, and this guy could be facing up to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: forty years behind bars. Meanwhile, Stephanie also took out a
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: restraining order previously against Lahiedra for harassment she currently wrestled
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: for Triple A. Screenshots were posted of a conversation This
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: is a while back with the care and Lahiedra, where
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Headra tried to convince her to cover up her bruises
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: at the time and not go to the cops about
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: what happened, and that her own boyfriend who happened to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: be Quatrero's brother had also hit her some piece of work.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: She sounds like a literal cover up. Just cover it
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: up and keep your mouth shut. That's a hell of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: a thing to say from one woman to another in
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: a domestic violence situation. And keeping with the subject of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: domestic violence and pieces of shit in Mexico, Alberto del
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Dipshit could very well land himself back behind bars after
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: an incident at a show in Monterey on May first. Now,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: he wrestled on a tribute show to his father Dos Charus,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and during the event, La Park joked about doctor Wagner Junior.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I believe it was looking like a woman because there
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: was a tag match of some kind, and he told Alberta,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: who he was teeming with, something to the effect of,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's a woman hit her. And apparently Alberto
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: laughed at this and found it funny, as did many
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: fans in the audience. So now lawyers representing his wife
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Mary Carmen Rodriguez, who he is accused of assaulting, are
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: looking into whether his conduct on that show would be
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: considered a violation of measures imposed by the judge when
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: he was released last month, which includes staying away from
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: his wife, attending therapy sessions, and undergoing periodic evaluations in
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: an effort to prevent further incidents from occurring. Now, he
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: was only released after a financial settlement was reached, but
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the case is still very much open. If it is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: found that he breached any of those conditions, he could
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: be sent back to prison. Now that seems very unlikely,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure. I'm not sure we're getting the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: full picture here. If he just laughed at a comment
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: that somebody else made, or if he himself made comments
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: that were in poor taste, I don't know. But why
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: you would even want to put yourself in that position
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: in the first place is beyond me. But we're also
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: not dealing with somebody who's too bright if he keeps
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: getting himself into trouble. Dark Side of the Ring Season
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: seven is on the way, per a story in Variety
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: this week. Now, I've covered every episode of the show
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: from the previous six seasons. I've reviewed them here on
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: the sound off. That will be no different for season seven.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: The new season kicks off on Tuesday, July seventh, at
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern on Vice TV. They're gonna have two
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: back to back episodes that night, and then new episodes
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: airing weekly thereafter. It begins with a three part deep
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: dive into TNA Wrestling and co founder Jeff Jarrett. I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: mean a deep dive into TNA that just those early
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: days alone, that could be an entire season. I know
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Matt Hardy was on his podcast talking about I think
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: he said he and Jeff did extensive interviews for this
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: when they were both in Las Vegas and was talking.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of the talk about this is that it
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: ends up being a redemption story which covers Jeff's battle
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: with addiction and the loss of his first wife. Again
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I hear Jeff. I keep thinking Jeff Jarrett because Jared
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: is the subject of this three part you know arc,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: but maybe Jeff Hardy is also going to be I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: don't know. Now I'm confused if what I've been reading
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: about this being a story of redemption also ties into
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Jeff Hardy and not just Jeff Jarret. Because Jeff Jarrett
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: also battled addiction and alcoholism, and you know, the loss
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: of his first wife to cancer, and there was a
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that went on in his life. How
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: much of Jeff Hardy's life is also going to be
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: covered in this because Jeff Hardy has some history in
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: TNA as well that would fit right into Dark side
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: of the Rings. So I tell you what, I would
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: not at all be surprised if they lump in the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Victory Road debacle with staying into this. But apparently the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: idea is that it ends up being a redemption story
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: and then it kind of leads into how TNA is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: now thriving on AMC network. So that's all going to
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: be part of this story. And look, as far as
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Jeff Jarrett is concerned, he's got a long history in
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: the wrestling business, and so you could probably just do
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: a dark side on him alone, even apart from the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: TNA stuff. And all I could say is that I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: think they should definitely include those Global Force gold bars
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: in there somewhere. I had fun with that one on
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: the sound of back in the Day, talk about some
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: of that Global Force gold. I should have bought some.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: It might be worth something now. Additional episode subjects include
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Paul Orndorf Big boss Man, whose family was interviewed for it.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: The boss Man one feels like the Earthquake one, where
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything particularly dark about the man
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: outside of the fact that he died so young. I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: know boss Man was only forty one when he passed away.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: But it's the same thing with John Tenta, where it's
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: like you watch the episode and it's like a life
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: well lived and he was beloved and then he got
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: sick and he passed away. But there was nothing particularly
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: dark about it, even though I enjoyed the episode. The
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: boss Man one may fall into that same category Missy Hyatt,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: that one could get messy. Missy's gonna get messy. Zach
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Gowan Rick Wilson, the renegade who WCW brought in as
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the Ultimate Warrior knockoff for them. He was an exotic
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: dancer before that and then later on committed suicide. That's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: a very sad story. He shot himself not long after
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: WCW let him go. And there will be an episode
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: devoted to the infamous death match between Samoa Joe and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: necro Butcher from IWA Mid South in two thousand and five,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: which is kind of random but a memorable match to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: be sure, even at under ten minutes. They're gonna get
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: a forty five minute episode out of a sub ten
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: minute match. It was very violent, it was very bloody.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: You know, these days, if you were to watch the match,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: just be another Wednesday on Dynamite. But back then it
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: was quite the spectacle. And this was after Necro had
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: just flown back from Japan, so on like a fifteen
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: hour flight back from Japan. He had a head wound
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: from a match he did over there, flew to West Virginia,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I think it was gotten his truck, drove to Philadelphia
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: at a wrestles Samoa Joe, and then the wound opened
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: up during their match, which is where all the blood
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: came from. But the whole thing was just a violent,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: violent spectacle. Now, last year there was talk that there
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: might be a Trent Acid episode. Acid died of a
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: drug overdose in twenty ten. He was a big name
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: on the independent scene. I don't know if that was
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: something that was pursued. I don't know if it was
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: just a rumor. Maybe it was thought about and it
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: fell through. I don't know. Not one of the ideas
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: that I pitch. Everybody had their own list of potential
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: ideas for season seven. I had mine. Not one of
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: the ideas that I pitched for a season seven ended
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: up being on the actual list. But I still think
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: that they would make for good topics for an eighth season,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: and that is Rick rud Perry, Saturn, Ashley Massarrow, which
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: is a very sad story, Takeshi Morishima, Crash, Holly, Larry Sweeney,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: buck Zoomov, and I hate even mentioning his name because
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: that episode, I mean that episode. If they did an
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: episode on buck Zoomov, it would be dark as fuck
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and it would actually be too depressing to watch. But
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: it is called Dark Side of the Ring, so you
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: can absolutely get an episode out of that guy. But
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: you know, for all the people who think that this
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: show jumped the shark years ago and not enough material,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: they're scraping the bottom of the barrel, like there will
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: never be a shortage of material out of the wrestling
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: business for a show like this, And it is still
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Vice's top show, so why would they want to end it.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Let's get into some mailbag questions. You can email me
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the solom Monster at gmail dot com. Please include your
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: name and where you are from when you write in.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Julius from the Bronx says rip to Ted Turner. He
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: contributed so much to TV, and in my opinion, his
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: most important contribution was Cartoon Network, mostly because I'm too
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: young to remember WCW, but I can still say Turner
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: truly won in the end, living just long enough to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: see Vince McMahon's downfall. And as far as I've heard
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: over the years, nobody has had anything bad to say
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: about Ted Turner, and he certainly isn't the terrible human
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: being that Vince turned out to be. Do you agree? Uh? Well,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not aware of any allegations of rape
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: or sexual misconduct against him, like Vince had many many
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: times over the years to say, no one has ever
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: said anything bad about him though, or that he was,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: you know, squeaky clean. That's just not true. I mean,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: there were stories about him in college, you know, singing
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Nazi songs outside of a Jewish frat house and planting
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: KKK signs outside of a black frat house, and I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: think Rolling Stone talked about that. And he was a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: cheating drunk who slept around on both of his wives,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: especially the first one, So I wouldn't portray the man
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: as a saint. But was he ever accused of raping
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: women or defecating on them? No, he wasn't. Mick writes
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: in since his passing. I've seen people debating if Ted
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Turner should be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this? And if he were
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: to be inducted and get a full induction, who would
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: do the induction? I would think that if it did happen,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Lex Luger could be a good choice. Would Sting and
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Rick Flair being unavailable due to their aw ties. Luger
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: was with Jim Crockett Promotions when it was sold to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Turner and could talk about that transition and then talk
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: about WCW under Turner and his support of wrestling. Should
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: he be inducted yes, Will he be inducted? No? But
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: if he was, there's no chance he gets a full induction.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: They would throw him into the legacy wing like they
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: do everybody else who's passed away. But I'll say this though,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: if you ever got a full induction, the person to
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: do it should be Eric Bischoff. To me, that's the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: only choice. Adam from Birmingham who never misses an episode
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: of the SoundOff, he says, or the Uncrowned Wrestling Show
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: or TNT look at this guy. I have a question
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: regarding the aw World title and all in London. Provided
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: MJF beats Darby to get the belt back, there's no
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: doubt that MJF has had a positive effect on attendance,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: ratings and overall perception of the company. I imagine Will
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Ospray will challenge for the belt at all in with
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: the success of MJF. Do you have him drop the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: title to Ospray now or do you wait another year,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: let the product thrive under MJF and build Ospray up
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: even more for the eventual win next year. Or do
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you go sink or swim with Ospray? No, you go
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: with Ospray. You're telling the story right now, in real
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: time with Will Ospray right He's with the death Riders.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: They're trying to bring out the best version of himself.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get the owen Hart Tournament brackets on TV
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: this week. I'm sure he will be in there. You've
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: already laid out the story beats to get you to Wembley.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I think now is the time. Which is not to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: say that MJF wouldn't get the belt back again at
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: some point, or that he can't still be in the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: top mix, but I think it would be a mistake
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: just to delay it for a year. Oh, we'll just
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: wait another twelve months. A lot could happen in twelve months.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: You go with it now, Ryan from Perth, Western Australia,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: what do you think about the following with Cody and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Gunther setting to clash soon? I agree that Gunther should
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: win the belt at Clash in Italy. Then leading to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Night of Champions, we have a Battle Royal on SmackDown
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: with the winner facing Gunther and the winner of the
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Battle Royal is Ilyya Dragonov. And then for the men's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: King of the Ring final we get Oba and Cody
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: is a final with Oba winning to face Roman at SummerSlam,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: and then for SummerSlam for the title we get a
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: four way between Cody, Punk, Randy and Gunther. I if
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have Cody and Punk in the ring, I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: would rather be one on one. The idea of doing
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Roman and Oba is something I've pitched. I'm not even
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: sure they're doing King of the Ring at all this year.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I hope they do, but now they got this John
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Cena stuff going on. I have no idea for even
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: getting King and Queen of the Ring. If we do Oba,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Femi should win Oba Femi should be challenging for the
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: championship at Summerslim and if Gunther wins the belt from Cody,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: which I feel like he should do, if they're gonna
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: do that match in Italy, I love the idea of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Illia Dragon of being a challenger at some point, right,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: you'd have to really build him up for it. The
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: guy's been off TV. It's ridiculous to me how he
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: was being featured. They were telling a story with him
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: and then he just vanished. So you would have to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: get him back on TV, start building him up again
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: and feeding him wins, and then give me that match,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Give me Gunther and Ilia for the WWE Championship at
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: some point on some pl e this year. Maybe there's
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: another international show coming after the Italy show, right, I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: guess we have a Night of champions in Riod, But
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: forget that for a second. What would be the best
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: place to do Gunther in Ilia for the title. I
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think they have any other international
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: shows after that until after SummerSlam. I don't know. I
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: just feel like those two in like a big international
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: ple title match would be fucking unbelievable. That'd be so great.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm still kind of irked that we were deprived of
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Walter and Finn Balor in nxt UK on that Dublin
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: takeover many years ago. Fucking Covid man it robbed us
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: of that still bothers me. Eddie from Annapolis, Maryland, thanks
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: for being my go to wrestling podcast. I'm also loving
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: the addition of Uncrowned on Tuesdays. Thank you, Eddie. Given
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: TKO's willingness to openly renegotiate contracts or outright terminate people,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: how long before we see wrestlers in general function like
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: other pro sports, meaning they all have agents and signed
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: for a certain number of years with guaranteed money. Also,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: are other companies like AEWTNA and such the beneficiaries of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: TKO's actions. Well, not if that change comes sweeping through
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the wrestling industry. I don't think they're going to see
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: it the same way they are the beneficiaries of TKO's
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: greed and TKO's actions. I think when you have these
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: people who are going to leave of their own volition
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: or are going to find themselves unemployed and they're going
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: to need somewhere to work, you're going to have a
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: wealth of talent that all of a sudden becomes available
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: because either they got let go or at the end
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: of their contract they don't want to be there anymore.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're not going to be offered the same amount
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: of money, Maybe they feel like they're not being used
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: the right way. Maybe they just don't like the way
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: things are going. That is how AW and TNA and
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: independent promotions are going to benefit from TKO's actions. As
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: far as your first point, do we get to a
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: point where it functions like other pro sports? No, No,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: I don't believe we will, because I feel like if
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: those kinds of changes were gonna happen, they would have
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: happened by now. And I think even people who are
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: having their money cut are probably still making good enough money.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Where there's just not this appetite to sort of band together,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: you know, all for one and one for all. It's
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: this fallacy, it doesn't exist. I don't see it happening.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: You would need a ground swell of support, You would
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: need some real heavy hitters. I feel like to be
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: a part of it again, whether we're talking about unionizing
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: or just kind of coming together for some sort of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: collective bargaining or whatever it may be. No, no, it's
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. We got some tag team questions because
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: there are people out there who still love some tag
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: team wrestling, unlike WWE. Saint Clair from Los Angeles with
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the New Day leaving, it got me thinking about tag
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: team wrestling, and I have two questions. First, in WWE,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: what era do you think had the best tag team division?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: And is there a specific year or year do you
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: think it was at its peak? For example, I would
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: say the Attitude era and to me, ninety nine into
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: two thousand stands out with teams like the Hardy's, the Dudley's,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: and Edging Christian. Also, what are the best tag teams
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: or trios that weren't teaming up before signing with WWE?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Tag teams are trios? I don't know. I mean a
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: lot of the really great teams were already established. So
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: that's a hard one to answer. But to your first point,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: the best tag team division to me, strongest tag team
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: division to me, I still go to the Golden Era.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: I'm still looking at that kind of eighty five to
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: ninety period like around then where you had think about
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: who you had men. I mean, you had the heart
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: foundation and you have the Bulldogs. You had the Killer Bees,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: who were actually a very good team. You had Strike Force,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: you had Demolition, and they had other teams too, like
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: the Powers of Pain and some other teams that weren't
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: terribly exciting. But you had the brain Busters and then
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: they it was in ninety they brought in lod Money.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Int came a little bit after that, like ninety late
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: ninety one, early ninety two. But yeah, I mean, I
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: know I'm missing a few. That Golden Era period of
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: like mid to late eighties into the early nineties, to me,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: is still number one. If we're just talking WWE, that's
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: number one. Number two I would actually go with the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: one that you just mentioned. There was a period of
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: time in late ninety nine into two thousand in the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Attitude Era where their tag team division was hot. I
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: mean they had the Hardy's, they had the Dudley's, they
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: had Edge and Christian, they had two Cool, they had
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: the Apa, they had the Holly Cousins, and again there
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: were probably others I'm not thinking of, So that would
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: be number two. Golden Era would be number one for me.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Joey from Melbourne, Australia. It looks to me like the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: current plan for the aw Tag Belts will be eight
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: three way between the Bucks, FTR and Copen Christian probably
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: at all in. But with the MotorCity machine Guns now
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: released from WWE, would you consider them a good inclusion
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: in the match and have a four way at all in?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: It really depends if they come in and when they
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: come in. I know there's a Dynamite episode in Detroit
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: in the MotorCity on July twenty ninth. I believe by
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: then they'll be free and clear. I would be kind
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: of surprised, to be honest with you, if they don't
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: debut that night, and that would put them in the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: company a full month or so ahead of Wembley. Yeah,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I mean you could get them in there. I don't
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: know if Tony Kahan is looking to recreate the TLC dynamic.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: You know TLC had the initial TLC matches had three
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: teams in them. I don't know if he wants to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: start adding a fourth team or a fifth team, So
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna do. I mean you
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: could do it. I think they would only make the
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: match better, right, They're certainly not gonna make the match worse.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: HJC from the UK Sadly, I've only been a listener
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: for the past year, but I love your content and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm hooked. Thank you, brother, glad to have you aboard.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: With the potential incoming MotorCity machine Guns and now New Day.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Oh see, we forgot about New Day too. We forgot
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: about New Day. How are you gonna leave New Day
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: out of that? If New Day is available, which they
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, that's tough because if I was gonna
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: put a fourth team in, there really should be New Day.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't know what a great problem for
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Tony Kahn to have though, But anyway, he says, with
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: the potential incoming MotorCity machine Guns and now New Day,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: AW has the potential to do something special with their
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Tag Division. What are your thoughts on a UK football
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: style division similar to the C two all year round,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: three points for a win, one point for a draw,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: ten minute TV time limit. First are the champions, in
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: second place? Are number one contenders? Tag title matches on
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: pay per views, third to six play off of third
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: to sixth playoff for the occasional TV title match. You
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: could even have a division and Ring of honor where
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: tags can get promoted to the AW Division and vice
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: versa with the aw Division relegations once a year. This
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: requires dedicated booking, but I think it could be awesome.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? It's too complicated, it's not gonna work.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna work, like they're not going to commit
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: to it, like he tried to do rankings two different
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: times and he couldn't commit to it. And so I
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: think it's a system that could work if it was
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: implemented strictly. I think that it could work, but practically speaking,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: it's it's not gonna play out that way. They'll start
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: doing it, they'll probably lose interest in it. And I
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: also don't think you need to overcomplicate it. I really don't.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: I would be in favor of having something in place
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: that helps promote certain teams from Ring of Honor, like
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: you said, and I know they've relegated certain teams there,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Big Bill and Brian Keith, and having some sort of
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: system where they could go from Ring of Honor and
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: formally be promoted to the Tag Team Division in AW
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: and challenge for those titles. I think that's cool. I
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: don't think we need to limit tag title matches to
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: the pay per views only. Yeah, I just don't think
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: it's necessary. I think having the Continental Classic and having
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: rules for that, it's like they're g one every year.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: That's cool. I don't think we need more than that.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to overcomplicate it. Chris from Dundee, Scotland.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: I recently watched a video on the WWE Vault channel
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: about the Undertaker in two thousand and one, which included
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: the ill fated invasion. What about this is an alternative
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: booking in two thousand and one at Vengeance, instead of
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: having a four man tournament, I would have had a
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: six man elimination match with Jericho angle Austin Rock, but
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: also Undertaker and Rob Van Dam. What do you think
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: of this as a concept? Okay, so what he's referring
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: to is, if you remember and Vengeance in OH one,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: we had a few title matches that built to Jericho
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: becoming the undisputed champion against Austin in the main event.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: So instead you have one match, but it's an elimination match. Yeah,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: you know what. I like that. I like that more.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: The only thing is you then take away Jericho's ability
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: to crow for years and years about how he beat
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold in the Rock in separate matches in the
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: same night. You can't take that away from him. He'd
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: been talking about it for decades now. But yeah, I
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: think having one six man match elimination style and throwing
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: an undertaker in our actually would have been a lot
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: of fun. I would have been down for that, not
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: in Helen his sound. I'm not advocating for another six
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: man Helen his cell by the way, but yeah, I
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: think that could have worked. And another Chris, This one
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: is from Central Florida, which is definitely not done de Scotland.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Chris says, I was listening to a podcast with Sean Mooney.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Sean Mooney Man, that's awesome. He's had
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of podcasts over the years. I know he's
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: got one right now. I believe Steve fall is his
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: co host. Shout out to Steve Man. I used to
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: I used to enjoy watching Mooney and you know him
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: doing his thing on those Colisseum videos. He hosted a
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of Colisseum videos. That was a big Sean
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Mooney guy. I'm glad to see he's still in the
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: trenches there talking about old school wrestling. But he was
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: talking about how in nineteen ninety one, the Jake Roberts
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Randy Savage feud happened because of what happened with the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Warrior at SummerSlam. Was the stuff with Jake Roberts
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Undertaker and Sid Justice at Savage and Elizabeth's wedding reception,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: all done on the fly after Warrior got fired for
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: holding McMahon up for money at Summerslim. Or was Jake
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: always supposed to get involved at the reception? I tried
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: googling it, but there was not a clear answer. Well,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: first of all, I mean, the WWE narrative is that
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the Ultimate Warrior showed up in Madison Square Garden and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: held them up for money, and that's not exactly the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: way it played out. So that's number one. Number two,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: was Jake always supposed to get involved at the wedding reception?
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: The simple answer is, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever been talked about. Maybe somebody
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: could ask Jake about that, But I know that they
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: had aired those vignettes on TV where Jake was trying
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: to show the dark side to the Warrior and then
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: turned on him, and they were obviously building to a
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: match at some point between The Ultimate Warrior and Jake
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: the Snake. I don't know that he would have had
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: anything to do with Macho Man at that point. Possible.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: They just pivoted in a different direction. And even then
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: they had to kind of pivot because Sid got hurt.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Sid made the save at the wedding reception. You know,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Savage was technically retired. He had lost a career ending
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: match to the Warrior of WrestleMania. Sid Justice had just
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: made his formal debut that night at Summerslim as a
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: special referee for the main event. He showed up at
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: the wedding reception, he made the save, and it was
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: going to be him and Jake really feuding, and then
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Sid tore I want to say his bicep. I know,
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  Speaker 1: he tore something and he was back in time for
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble match. But yeah, I mean there were
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and weird things going on behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes during that time period that kind of led
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  Speaker 1: to this happy accident that was the Macho Man Jake
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: the Snake feud, which funny enough, is probably my If
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: it's not my favorite, it's one of my top three
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: favorite feuds of all time. I'm not even sure the
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  Speaker 1: fucking thing was supposed to happen. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 1: the whole feud was supposed to happen. That's what's crazy
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  Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, I don't really have a clear
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  Speaker 1: answer either for you. Thank you guys though, for the questions.
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  Speaker 1: Keep emailing me the Solemn Monster at gmail dot com.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Real quick here, I saw Mortal Kombat too this week.
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  Speaker 1: I am not going to spoil anything for you. There's
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: no spoilers here. But I had gone back to see
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  Speaker 1: the first one from five years ago on the plane
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  Speaker 1: ride into LA a couple of weeks ago. So I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm already now. I know what
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: characters have been established for the second movie, and I
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: like the first one well enough. I think the first
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: one gets a lot of hate. It's not a great movie,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: but it's it's not as terrible as some people make
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: it out to be. This was better than the first one,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: low bar, I know, but this was definitely better than
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: the first one. I enjoyed this movie. I just thought
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: it was dumb fun and there's some good comedy in
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: there too, especially with Johnny Cage. So if you are
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: on the fence about it or if you are going
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: to be seeing it, you were wondering is it worth it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Mortal Kombat is supposed to have some
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: humor to it, so you get a good mix of
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: action and humor in this movie. So I thought it
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: was well done. I'm gonna be back with you next Sunday.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do this all over again, because it's gonna
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: be episode nine to sixty three of the sound off,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: and in between now and then you get more of
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: me because we got the raw post show tomorrow night
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. Brand new episode of The Uncrowned Wrestling Show
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday again. That drops every Tuesday on the arial
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Hellwani Show feed or the dedicated Uncrowned Wrestling Show feed,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: not this feed here. This is separate from that. But
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: we've been kicking it, kicking it one am I Ross.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: We've been kicking ass with the Uncrowded Show. I even
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. On Tuesdays, you guys have been supporting,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: keep supporting Tuesday Night. There will be no Tuesday Night
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Titans with me and JD on JD's channel. He is
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be away instead. The plan is to do Tuesday
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Night Titans this week on Thursdays, so we're gonna push
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: it back by two days. The initial still work, it's
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: still TNT. That'll be Thursday night on his channel, Friday
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: night the SmackDown post show, and then let's see there's
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: no pay per views next week and okay, good, so
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: then next Sunday will be episode nine sixty three. That's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: a full week of work right there. I appreciate all
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the support you guys throw my way. Keep it up
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: until then, be well, stay safe, have yourselves a great
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: rest of your week. Again, wishing a very happy Mother's
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Day to all the moms out there, and we'll do
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: it all over again next Sunday. Until then, take care, guys.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: The Solemn Monster sounds off people like wins and losses
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  Speaker 1: don't matter anymore, and to that, I say, fuck off.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about. To get people over,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: they need to win matches. This goes to this argument,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: and I will argue until I'm bluing the fucking face
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: with people wins and losses. I agree, you're not the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: end all be all, it's not the only thing. But
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: to suggest wins and losses don't matter means you don't
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: know anything about wrestling, and I was very happy. By
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the way, when the Miz did that interview with Chris
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: van Vliet, I think it was he said the exact
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: same thing. I agree with the Miz okay where the
• 1:45:06
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