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22 Panels Episode #224 - 20th Century Men · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:01
  Tyler Johnson: Hey everyone, welcome back to 22 Panels. This is the podcast that aims to examine, explore, and of course.
• 0:11
  Tyler Johnson: Elevate the medium of comic. I almost forgot the E-word. Elevate.
• 0:15
  Tad Eggleston: That's the important word. Elevate.
• 0:18
  Phil: I thought we were elephanting the medium.
• 0:20
  Tad Eggleston: No, shut up!
• 0:22
  Tyler Johnson: An elephant, the medium of comics.
• 0:25
  Tyler Johnson: Don't ruin it, Phil. This is my… ugh! Okay.
• 0:31
  Tyler Johnson: Who's watching?
• 0:31
  Phil: Maybe this elephant in common, sorry.
• 0:33
  Tyler Johnson: I am Tyler, and across the interwebs.
• 0:37
  Tyler Johnson: from me is Tad and Phil. Good morning, guys. How are you?
• 0:42
  Phil: Good morning there, Tyler.
• 0:44
  Tyler Johnson: The other day, I was reading some old Marvel TED, and I came across one that says, after next page, right?
• 0:52
  Tyler Johnson: And…
• 0:53
  Phil: That's some really old Marvel, then.
• 0:55
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, and I realize I've been saying, after the next page.
• 1:01
  Tyler Johnson: At the end of the show, maybe…
• 1:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I have been, too.
• 1:05
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, but…
• 1:07
  Tad Eggleston: Actually.
• 1:08
  Phil: Yeah, but what's on the page is actually.
• 1:12
  Tyler Johnson: After next phase.
• 1:13
  Tad Eggleston: age. They skipped to the…
• 1:15
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 1:16
  Tad Eggleston: I wonder if they always do?
• 1:19
  Tyler Johnson: That's what I noticed when I was going through old comic books.
• 1:22
  Phil: Hmm.
• 1:22
  Tyler Johnson: So… Anywho…
• 1:28
  Phil: The only real time I've run into that was on the Defender series that was trying to… I'd have to check to see if they left the thuds in, or not.
• 1:37
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 1:37
  Phil: Ew.
• 1:38
  Phil: But it is, it is the week of Comics Perot, a,
• 1:45
  Phil: Would you call it a convention, or is it more of a…
• 1:48
  Tad Eggleston: It's more of a retailer summit, I think is what.
• 1:50
  Tyler Johnson: More of a get-together, more of a get-together.
• 1:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Retailer Summit? So the first thing we need to do is apparently mind management.
• 1:57
  Phil: It's recruiting. Right.
• 1:59
  Tad Eggleston: And, Phil has offered to risk the possibility that Mind Management will completely fry his phone and possibly his head to call the recruitment number.
• 2:10
  Phil: You know, someone had to put themselves on the wing.
• 2:12
  Tad Eggleston: can hear what's going on. Yeah, this is what happens by being the new guy.
• 2:15
  Phil: Yep.
• 2:18
  Phil: Can you hear that?
• 2:24
  Phil: Yes.
• 2:25
  Phil: Strange event, or they happen. Sometimes. Strange things happen around you. Always. If so, we're here to help.
• 2:33
  Phil: You are invited to participate in the following auditory recruitment exam.
• 2:39
  Phil: This is step one on your path to entertainment, enlightenment.
• 2:44
  Phil: And webinars I might be.
• 2:46
  Phil: Simply stay on the line and listen to each one of the following three recordings.
• 2:51
  Phil: After each round.
• 2:53
  Phil: These break your feelings and anxiety.
• 2:56
  Phil: agitation, or uncontrollable distress from 1 to 9, you think their time shown to be bad. 1 being the lowest, 9 being the highest.
• 3:06
  Phil: Our trained team of agents will then analyze your results, and let you know if you qualify to proceed to the next page of our recruitment protocol.
• 3:14
  Phil: Test 1 will begin after the beep.
• 3:24
  Phil: Oh, boy.
• 3:36
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 3:40
  Phil: Oh, that was more of a…
• 3:41
  Tyler Johnson: Is it still going?
• 3:42
  Phil: Oh, yeah. Can you guys hear that?
• 3:46
  Tyler Johnson: No.
• 3:52
  Tyler Johnson: that.
• 3:53
  Phil: Okay, that was fun.
• 3:55
  Tad Eggleston: So the noise is going directly into Fitz's brain.
• 3:58
  Phil: Might as well send emails, and we will contact you directly. Sweet. Goodbye for now. -Oh. By listening to this message, you agree to receive SMS marketing messages from Oni Press.
• 4:10
  Phil: Reply stop to opt out Alright, there we go! Sweet!
• 4:14
  Tyler Johnson: It's bad for Oni, I love it.
• 4:16
  Phil: Yeah, so, so, I mean, I'm on, I'm on their, I'm on their radar now, I guess?
• 4:20
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 4:21
  Phil: You know.
• 4:22
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I might call later, just cause… Yep, I think so.
• 4:25
  Phil: Send a text message. Congratulations!
• 4:28
  Phil: I have been selected to proceed to the next phase of the Mind Management Training Protocol.
• 4:33
  Phil: Join us to find the training center nearest you. Interesting. I guess I'll be visiting, mindmanagement.com after this.
• 4:40
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, one more.
• 4:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is, this is, you know, ahead of, of, the return of mind management at Oney Press. Other announcements from ComicsPro, we have
• 4:52
  Tad Eggleston: 3 exquisite corpses
• 4:55
  Tad Eggleston: spin-offs, Randy Rascal, written by Tyler Boss. Fox Mask Killer, written by Che Grayson. I feel like they kind of stole that from John Lees, though.
• 5:06
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 5:07
  Tad Eggleston: Gang. Yeah.
• 5:08
  Tad Eggleston: I wonder if they asked.
• 5:10
  Phil: I wonder if there's the next time.
• 5:11
  Tad Eggleston: Sean.
• 5:12
  Phil: a historical fox mask killer.
• 5:15
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, maybe this is possible.
• 5:17
  Tad Eggleston: Lone Gunman, points at Pichette show.
• 5:21
  Phil: Nice.
• 5:22
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, I thought you'd be interested in this. Concrete!
• 5:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, Chadwick's book.
• 5:27
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. New volume this summer.
• 5:29
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, really? Concrete is fun.
• 5:31
  Tad Eggleston: Dark Horse is going to publish 3W3M in print, the Jonathan Hickman Substack thing.
• 5:38
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 5:38
  Tad Eggleston: Tini Howard and Emilkar Pina have a book called Sicko, coming from Ignition Press that is, like, set in a healthcare facility, and looks…
• 5:49
  Tad Eggleston: Crazy. Yeah.
• 5:50
  Phil: That does… I saw a couple images of that right before this. It looks pretty cool.
• 5:55
  Tad Eggleston: And then, also pretty wild, Skybound has announced a book called Terminal.
• 6:02
  Tad Eggleston: Which will involve Robert Kirkman, Joe Casey, Andy Kubert, David Finch, and Arthur Adams bringing completely unpredictable hyper-violence.
• 6:11
  Tad Eggleston: So that's… that's news from Comics Pro. At least so far, I think they might be still meeting today.
• 6:19
  Tad Eggleston: The next thing is voting has now opened for Zelda Awards for women in comics.
• 6:27
  Tad Eggleston: The link is,
• 6:30
  Tad Eggleston: hard to remember, so I'll try to stick it in the notes, but it's, www… www.izivote.com.
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: slash v slash the dash zelda dash awards dash 8JD0YW.
• 6:50
  Tad Eggleston: That last part that makes it particularly hard for us to just rattle it off, rather than
• 6:55
  Tad Eggleston: But we'll go through the nominees really quick, because I'm curious as to how many of them will know, and how many of them we need to go… go discover, because I love that we have an award
• 7:06
  Tad Eggleston: Named specifically for women in comics. It's named after Zelda Jackie Orms, who had a… was a Black woman cartoonist, whose Torchy Brown in the Pittsburgh Courier and a number of other Black-owned newspapers was probably the closest syndication.
• 7:25
  Tad Eggleston: You had for a… African American… Strip for a long time.
• 7:31
  Tad Eggleston: So, webcomics.
• 7:34
  Tad Eggleston: We have Kim Riot, Willow and the Family Ace.
• 7:39
  Tad Eggleston: Er, this is Webcomics All Ages. Camry Lapka, George Smith, Paranormal investigator of the PNW.
• 7:47
  Tad Eggleston: Kaja Folio? Girl Genius, that one I've heard of.
• 7:51
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if I've read any. I think I've read a little.
• 7:54
  Tad Eggleston: Gianna A. Thomas, The Stolen Life of Henrietta Lacks, and Dr. Ebony Toussaint, Crash Cart, Ashley the Cartoonist, Flea Boy, and The Weasel.
• 8:05
  Tad Eggleston: Webcomic Horror, Mary Landon, The Grey. Charlie Ragnarok, The Killer Kiss. Karen Hemmings, Love, Death, Eat, Repeat, I've read some of that.
• 8:16
  Tad Eggleston: Rebecca Coolhart, Cheap Jack Gentleman, and Pascale Lepes, Wildlife. Webcomic Fantasy, Katie Hodges, and Pam Bliss, The Extras.
• 8:29
  Tad Eggleston: Matasorcier, Sacrimony, A Tale of Love, Life, and Death in no particular order. Feather Mage, Magic and Mimic, Megan Gray, The Crow King, Jay Hits, The Barrier, Scroll, and Taney Andrews, Seeds of Doubt.
• 8:48
  Tad Eggleston: webcomic sci-fi, and I'm very sad that none of you have popped in and said, oh, I know that.
• 8:55
  Tad Eggleston: Next Gen, Coexistence, Willow White, Friends Through the Cosmos, Kaja Folio, Girl Genius again, Bossy Arts, Planetarium, Hazel and Belle Electric Bones. Manga, we have Marie Grousat's Pandemonium, Yamawi's UFO Catcher.
• 9:14
  Tad Eggleston: Kaj Kunzmann?
• 9:17
  Tad Eggleston: Yakuza noodle?
• 9:19
  Tad Eggleston: Mai Matsuda, Hikaru in the Light, and CJ Willis Tezra Tandem.
• 9:26
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, now we're gonna start getting to some stuff that people might
• 9:30
  Tad Eggleston: know better, because it's not strictly on the internet.
• 9:34
  Tad Eggleston: Meredith McLaren's Meat Eaters, one of my top.
• 9:37
  Phil: Woo-woo!
• 9:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Gigi Murakami's Resenter, Amy Chu and Sue Lise, Carmilla, Jasmine Joyner, Devour, and Nihariko. Now.
• 9:49
  Tad Eggleston: Niharika Nagi's Hunger, graphic novel Fantasy, we have N.S. Kane, Your Highness, Roh Higashi, Half of the Crown, Ariella Cristantina Draws on Wales, that was a good one. Jasmine Walls, The Last Session, Volume 2. How can it be The Last Session, Volume 2?
• 10:09
  Phil: Same way we get a multi-volume omnibus series from some bubble.
• 10:11
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 10:14
  Tad Eggleston: Madeline Holly Roosing, Morgana Pendragon, and Dina Muhammad, Your Wish is My Command. Graphic novels Nonfiction, Rachel M. Thomas, Shrink, Amelia
• 10:27
  Tad Eggleston: Drill Chuck, Be Yourself, Lisa Burdage, Love Letters Every Day, Shana Jones, Hammer University.
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: Amy Kurzweil, Artificial, A Love Story. I have that book sitting downstairs that I've been meaning to read for ages.
• 10:44
  Tad Eggleston: Graphic Novel Superhero.
• 10:46
  Tad Eggleston: Jamie McAfee, Alexis Weil, Natasha Jones, The Gray, Ashley Page, Van de Cruz Lampkin, Namakassi, Dr. Angelique Rocher, Life Dream.
• 11:00
  Tad Eggleston: Agnes Garbowska, DC Superheroes, and Shay Fontana, DC Superheroes.
• 11:06
  Tad Eggleston: Graphic novel sci-fi, Jackie Venturi, Outer Space, Mashai Dashev, Fumes, Wendy's shoe.
• 11:15
  Tad Eggleston: The infinity particle, that sounds cool.
• 11:17
  Phil: I, I've, I've read some of that, it was, it was fantastic.
• 11:20
  Tad Eggleston: Have you? Yeah. Okay. Mindy Indy, Airhead, and Stephanie Williams Temporal. Temporal is fantastic. I like Stephanie Williams. Children's graphic novel. Shhh.
• 11:31
  Tad Eggleston: Quedta Smith, Young Master Choi, Meredith McLaren comes back with Crumble, which was also fantastic.
• 11:39
  Tad Eggleston: Stephanie Cook, Pillow Talk, Cherie Miller, Curl Friends, Katie Shaw, Dragon Child, and Vera Broskal, Plain Jane and the Mermaid. Vera Broskal does a lot of really good work. Children's graphic novel, Scary!
• 11:55
  Tad Eggleston: Kate in Phoenix, Witchtober, Beatrice Robbins' Ghost Story Saga, Whitney Gardner, The Haunted Guitar, and Jessica Meissen Judd, School for Monsters, Best Pencils and Inks, Chyna Rose…
• 12:10
  Tad Eggleston: Maria for today is different, Ryan Oakley for Ride to Acceptance. Lorna Dinnings, Charlie Sparks.
• 12:17
  Tad Eggleston: YKO, Hiko, Janet Jett, Skylar Patridge, Finders, Keepers, Francesca Fantini, Can I Scream? Anna Wujic, Shu, and Essea Fulmore for Temporal, Best Cover to Hila and Tia Ankum for Fumes.
• 12:34
  Tad Eggleston: I love the Angams. I've had them… they were… they were part of the Milestone Initiative.
• 12:40
  Phil: Nice.
• 12:41
  Tad Eggleston: Michaela Moore for The Gray, Santa Takeda for Monstrous number 45, Juliet Nika for Roots of Madness, Louisa Modica for Crystal Clear Pyro.
• 12:53
  Tad Eggleston: Tarsilla Neves for Queen Bee, Carla Wiesgala for Skull Masquerade, Angie Wu for Soul The Ba, number 1, and Jan Apple for Mirrorverse. Colorists, we've got Xenon Honchar for 30 Days of Night Falling, Bex Glendening on Starlit Shores, high…
• 13:12
  Tad Eggleston: Cucifer.
• 13:13
  Tad Eggleston: Tyra Pitera.
• 13:15
  Tad Eggleston: Sabine Rich, Fight Girls, Gabby Zarmeno, Flesh Fix, and Bia Navarro, Dissenter. Best letterer on Ariana Maurer for Zaytana and the House of Secrets.
• 13:28
  Tad Eggleston: Sadia Tamifante, Press Guardian No. 1, Lydia Mises Monette, Fanek, Next Gen, Coexistence, Jodi Troutman, Star Trek Red Shirts.
• 13:37
  Tad Eggleston: Becca Carey Temporal, and Shayna Jones Hamer University. Best single issue, we've got Jasmine Joyner for Devour, Madeline Holly Rising, Morgana Pendragon number 1, Natasha Jones, The Gray No. 3.
• 13:54
  Tad Eggleston: Wail the Old Bear, the Clock, and Janice Denny, Chalawan Uranus. Best Series, Stephanie Williams, Roots of Madness, so good. Natasha Jones, The Grey, Madeline Holly Rising, Boston Metaphysical Society, Jackie A. Monster High, N.S. Kane, Queen Bee.
• 14:12
  Tad Eggleston: Moda Sorcerer Sacrimony, and Rebecca Coulthard, Cheap Jack Gentleman. Best Writer, Natasha Jones.
• 14:19
  Tad Eggleston: Modisocier, Madeline Holly Rising, Stephanie Williams, Rebecca Coulthart, and N.S. Kane. Emerging Trailblazers.
• 14:28
  Tad Eggleston: Less than 10 years in the bids. We've got Dr. Ebony Toussaint, Stephanie Williams, Amelia Stritchuk, Ashley Van DeCruz, Lampkin, NextGen, Karen Hemmings, and Ryan Oakley. Spirit of Zelda, more than 10 years in the bid.
• 14:44
  Tad Eggleston: biz. We've got Queenie Chan, Kaja Folio, Nicholas Scott, who just did…
• 14:51
  Tad Eggleston: Cheater and Chesser Robb of the Justice League.
• 14:56
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait a minute, that was Cheetah and Cheshire robbed the Justice League.
• 15:00
  Tyler Johnson: The Justice League. Yes, yes.
• 15:02
  Tad Eggleston: Wendy Peeney?
• 15:04
  Phil: Kaj Huntsman, Wendy Peeney is, ElfQuest, Francesca Fantini, Rachel Dukes, and T. Franklin.
• 15:11
  Tad Eggleston: Founders Award, Inc. The future, creators who are changing the industry. Kaden Phoenix, Stephanie Williams again, and with good reason. Shakeda Smith, Regine Sawyer, Stephanie Cook, Barbara Dillon, and Natasha Jones. So that is our…
• 15:30
  Tad Eggleston: List of nominees for the inaugural… Zelda Awards.
• 15:37
  Phil: That's really exciting. That sounds awesome.
• 15:38
  Tad Eggleston: Founded by Black Girl Comics.
• 15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Founder Carla Medrano, aka Moon the Storyteller. The new award celebrates outstanding achievement of women who are shaping comic book culture.
• 15:53
  Tad Eggleston: officially… or the voting officially opened February 16th, and winners will be announced on April 11th.
• 16:03
  Tad Eggleston: So… That… that is the Zelda Awards.
• 16:08
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been?
• 16:12
  Tad Eggleston: Well, the president bragged about how he was very good at reading paragraphs yesterday.
• 16:17
  Phil: Something I need to, you know, reconfirm for myself regularly.
• 16:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and he used that as justification for why he was right to praise the wisdom of Sam Alito…
• 16:32
  Tyler Johnson: Guys, I will be right back, okay? You just keep talking, I'll be right back.
• 16:36
  Phil: His coffee's kicking in, that's for sure.
• 16:38
  Tad Eggleston: Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh.
• 16:43
  Phil: Ew.
• 16:44
  Tad Eggleston: to… and to…
• 16:48
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, obviously throw the liberal justices under the bus, but if anything, he was worse to Gorsuch
• 17:02
  Tad Eggleston: Barrett and… Roberts, who he called tradersh, and disloyal.
• 17:10
  Tad Eggleston: And… All that stuff, because they,
• 17:14
  Tad Eggleston: they ruled against him on tariffs. Of course.
• 17:18
  Tad Eggleston: They also neglected to say what was supposed to be done about it?
• 17:24
  Phil: Oh. Yeah.
• 17:26
  Tad Eggleston: strict scrutiny, the… the Crooked Media podcast did a… did a good emergency episode in which they… they pointed out that,
• 17:35
  Tad Eggleston: There is an element of this that fits right into the authoritarian playbook, because, like, they shot him down and were able to appear…
• 17:47
  Tad Eggleston: independent.
• 17:50
  Tad Eggleston: But… not in a way that doesn't still give him massive control over all sorts of things.
• 17:58
  Phil: And…
• 17:58
  Tad Eggleston: They insisted on using their made-up major questions doctrine.
• 18:04
  Tad Eggleston: Which, thank God, that the three… concurring…
• 18:09
  Tad Eggleston: liberal justices made clear was not part of their concurrence. Right. They're like, we can just use the law. We don't need this.
• 18:21
  Phil: Oh, that's like… I mean, I was just… I was already thinking that, yeah, that's actually a really good point, that by the Supreme Court appearing to…
• 18:31
  Phil: put a check on him. It seems like things are quote-unquote more normal, but hasn't he been selectively listening to the court already? Like, they've… multiple times that they've… they've ordered, innocent people released from ICE concentration camps, and, more than…
• 18:49
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, not generally the Supreme.
• 18:52
  Phil: Right. Okay.
• 18:54
  Tad Eggleston: He's more likely to listen to the Supreme.
• 18:57
  Phil: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Tad Eggleston: Now, they often give him wiggle room. You know, Kavanaugh, in his dissent, you know, laid out that one of the reasons that he was dissenting was that…
• 19:12
  Tad Eggleston: There were other legal ways for him to put these tariffs in, just not the way that he'd done it.
• 19:19
  Phil: Oh, God, wow. Probably so.
• 19:21
  Tad Eggleston: Robertson.
• 19:22
  Phil: Literally.
• 19:22
  Tad Eggleston: Like, excoriated him in his own…
• 19:26
  Tad Eggleston: majority opinion, essentially saying, stop being the president's lawyer, don't judge on things that aren't… I mean, he didn't say the words out loud.
• 19:36
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:37
  Tad Eggleston: judge on things that aren't actually in front of the court.
• 19:40
  Phil: That's funny. That's hilarious. Oh, man.
• 19:43
  Tad Eggleston: Trump, in his speech, talked about… The other ways tariffs could…
• 19:49
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, but, like, remember when Barack Obama questioned a decision as being poorly thought out?
• 19:59
  Tad Eggleston: Naming any justices by name, just saying that he thought the decision was bad, and it was a…
• 20:05
  Tad Eggleston: HUGE fucking story, and everybody's like, oh, you can't mess with the court, blah blah blah.
• 20:12
  Tad Eggleston: You remember this?
• 20:13
  Phil: I don't, actually.
• 20:14
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay. That decision, by the way, was Citizens United.
• 20:18
  Phil: I had a feeling it was gonna be Citizens United, because that sounded like the most likely one to question, but yeah.
• 20:23
  Tad Eggleston: But also, apparently, all of those rules are gone now.
• 20:27
  Tad Eggleston: Because… because this president can call out justices by name, and call them…
• 20:33
  Phil: Oh, oh.
• 20:34
  Tad Eggleston: I thought for a second, I thought for a second. And dumb, and…
• 20:38
  Phil: No, I… when you said those rules are gone for… I parsed…
• 20:41
  Tad Eggleston: No, I bet those rules for presidential decorum For spending on elections.
• 20:46
  Phil: I was like, did some… I'm like, don't… you know…
• 20:49
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, don't break my brain more than…
• 20:51
  Phil: The left for spending on elections are pretty much gone, too. But, I mean… cut.
• 20:58
  Tad Eggleston: Are there rules for spending on elections?
• 21:01
  Phil: The day we can stop considering corporations people will be… will be a good day indeed.
• 21:07
  Tad Eggleston: I think that…
• 21:10
  Phil: when I say that, I mean the legal distinction that a corporation is a person that can have unlimited spending.
• 21:16
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I totally knew what you meant. I just think that…
• 21:24
  Tad Eggleston: If we're being really, really honest…
• 21:28
  Tad Eggleston: Corporations will stop being… people… sometime…
• 21:41
  Tad Eggleston: AFTER… We stop being people.
• 21:45
  Phil: Ouch.
• 21:46
  Phil: Oof, that hurts.
• 21:49
  Tad Eggleston: Let's just be honest here.
• 21:50
  Phil: You know, when I… when I long for you to have said instead that, corporations will stop being people and start being governments sometime after year X, like, when I'm longing for the Lazarus reference, you know that we're in a dark place.
• 22:05
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think that in many of the corporate territories, including the one we spend the most time in, Carlisle, most people have stopped being people.
• 22:17
  Phil: Yeah. When corporations become governments. Yeah.
• 22:21
  Tad Eggleston: They become waste.
• 22:23
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway… Let's go through the rest of the initial…
• 22:29
  Tad Eggleston: order highlights for new to order. February 26th is when the date is due.
• 22:37
  Tad Eggleston: And I don't even have to talk for a while, because there aren't enough for me. Phil gets two, and Tyler gets two, so… take it away, boys.
• 22:47
  Phil: Alright, first up, we have got, I believe the title was Planet Atmos X Exordium? Yes, Exordium, by Dr. Bushel Rob Mc…
• 23:01
  Phil: McVeady, Andrea Cucci, and covers by Tommy Lee Edwards.
• 23:06
  Phil: Some heists succeed, some fail, and some fail so spectacularly as to set off a chain of events that irrevocably alter a planet's future. After triggering security alarms in the underground stronghold of an intergalactic pharmaceutical conglomerate, a ragtag group of thieves must use every trick at their disposal to escape and survive. The fates of legendary racing pilot Pesh Chosen and the fugitive known as Addie Acker.
• 23:29
  Phil: collide, and neither of them, nor Planet Atmos, will ever be the same. Planet Atmos Exordium is the first entry in the Planet Atmos universe of games and stories. It's gonna have a final order cutoff of March 30th in stores, April 22nd from… is that… Mad Cave?
• 23:49
  Phil: MA?
• 23:50
  Tad Eggleston: It is.
• 23:51
  Tyler Johnson: Snake Hayes!
• 23:52
  Phil: Very exciting.
• 23:55
  Tyler Johnson: Alright. Swamp Thing.
• 23:59
  Tyler Johnson: Lost my screen here, hold on.
• 24:01
  Phil: Oh, face…
• 24:02
  Tyler Johnson: swamp thing, soon as I can get back to what I was looking at. 1989!
• 24:08
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, will you scroll down for me, Ted?
• 24:11
  Phil: It's not 1989, what are we… what are we talking about.
• 24:13
  Tad Eggleston: Number 1 or number 88, depending on how you look at it.
• 24:17
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, one of the greatest stories never told. Introducing the most famous unpublished comic, DC comic of all time. Over three decades since the controversy and cancellation, Rick Beit's legendary lost issues are completed.
• 24:33
  Tyler Johnson: After a renowned two-year run on the series, Veich… is that how you pronounce it? Veitch? Brand finale…
• 24:39
  Tad Eggleston: Spice.
• 24:40
  Tyler Johnson: Vaish, Grand Finale to Swamp Thing was cut short and was never… would never see print.
• 24:45
  Tyler Johnson: Whispers and leaks hinted at the epic, untold saga for years. Now, for the first time, that final story is told. As Swamp Thing is cast back through time, he will get to meet a carpenter who will change the trajectory of his life and the DC universe forever.
• 25:03
  Tyler Johnson: The origin of Etrigan and Swamp Thing's journey to the beginning of time starts here. This is, by, again, by Rick Beitsch, art by Michael Zuley and Vince Locke from DC, of course. Final order cutoff is, April 6th, and will be in shops April 29th.
• 25:22
  Phil: So I don't want to spoil things for anybody, but that… that carpenter that changes Swamp Thing's life turns him into a coffee table.
• 25:30
  Tad Eggleston: I thought… I thought the carpenter was named Jesus.
• 25:34
  Phil: Oh, sure. Pretty sure, yeah.
• 25:35
  Tad Eggleston: Jesus. Maybe Joshua.
• 25:37
  Phil: I think they find a really sweet cup, too.
• 25:42
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, we've gone through all the graphic novels, so we're gonna do a couple of collections, starting with the one that I'm shocked that Phil didn't pick a long time ago.
• 25:51
  Phil: You know, I… it…
• 25:53
  Phil: I, you know, it does sound good. The Complete 2000 AD by Alan Moore, Future Shocks, and Other Stories. It's gonna be Alan Moore as a legendary comics writer credited with transforming the medium and how it was seen through his seminal works such as V for Vendetta, From Hell, and of course, Watchmen.
• 26:11
  Phil: But before any of that, he cut his teeth at 2000 AD, the galaxy's greatest comic. It was there that Moore honed his craft in preparation for the accolades that would follow.
• 26:21
  Phil: This first volume in a new series collecting all of Alan Moore's work for 2000 AD brings together all of his future shocks, as well as a host of other one-off stories. Moore is a master of the short-format story, and this collection doubles as a perfect guide for how to write comics to a page limit. Includes the story A Holiday in Hell, which has never been reprinted in English since its first publication in 1980.
• 26:43
  Phil: More stories are con…
• 26:45
  Phil: Complemented by the works of a string of legendary artists, including Dave Gibbons, Ian Gibson, Eric Bradbury, Brian Talbot, Steve
• 26:54
  Phil: Dylan, Brett, Ewens, and more. It's gonna have a final order cutoff date of March 2nd, with, gonna be hitting shops in April 4th from Rebellion, the publishers of 2080.
• 27:07
  Phil: if you'd like, details and insights and, criticism of these early works of Moore's, they are gone over in Volume 1 of The Last War in Albion, quite extensively. So, it… I guess the reason I hadn't picked it is, I guess I didn't know… I didn't know how, Mr. Moore still feels about
• 27:27
  Phil: 2018, his work, you know? Yeah, I guess since his name is still on it, then, I'm sure.
• 27:33
  Tad Eggleston: I would actually, from what I know of him.
• 27:36
  Tad Eggleston: I would imagine that this is still some of the work that he… Feels best about.
• 27:41
  Phil: Probably, you know? I hope that's one of those things.
• 27:45
  Tad Eggleston: It certainly involves some of his best work.
• 27:48
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of… a lot of great stuff, for sure, and a lot of weird, interesting things.
• 27:55
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, we have Uncle Scrooge Lost Beneath the Sea by Carl Banks.
• 28:02
  Tad Eggleston: Barks.
• 28:02
  Tyler Johnson: Barks, sorry, my eyes are terrible. Carl barks. It's a catastrophe when an ocean liner with Scrooge's old number one dime on board. Man, that is a,
• 28:15
  Tyler Johnson: Steam that never dies. Old dime on board, sinks in a raging storm at sea. Donald and.
• 28:21
  Tad Eggleston: You would go…
• 28:22
  Tyler Johnson: after…
• 28:23
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I'm trying to remember…
• 28:25
  Tad Eggleston: when the number one… I mean, because Barks created the number one dime.
• 28:29
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 28:30
  Tad Eggleston: But I don't know how early… like, what I'm trying to say is, is we're talking.
• 28:35
  Tyler Johnson: ugh.
• 28:36
  Phil: is a thing that never dies. I don't know where it came from. …appeared in…
• 28:41
  Tad Eggleston: Bark's mythology, so, like, this could…
• 28:45
  Tad Eggleston: Probably not the debut, because I think I've read about it in…
• 28:49
  Tad Eggleston: Earlier volumes than this, but, like.
• 28:51
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 28:52
  Phil: Is it perhaps a metaphor for the gold standard?
• 28:57
  Tyler Johnson: Donald and Scrooge go after it, only to discover that the vessel has taken to an undersea ship graveyard where four armed Martians are salvaging the metal from the sunken ship for their own planet.
• 29:10
  Tyler Johnson: Next, Scrooge takes the ducks on a flight to the Yucatan Peninsula in search of Mayan ruins, but two scoundrels follow and trap them in a deadly pool of peril called the Well of Sacrifice. Then, Magica Dispel learns of Scrooge's expedition to find the island where geese lay eggs with golden yokes.
• 29:29
  Tyler Johnson: With the aid of the Beagle Boys and their dirty tricks, the race is on. Carl Barks delivers another wildly imaginative collection of outrageous adventures.
• 29:38
  Tyler Johnson: Laugh-out-loud comedy, and all-around comic book brilliance. Each page is meticulously restored and newly colored with insightful story notes by an international panel of Bark experts.
• 29:51
  Tyler Johnson: Barks experts. The final order cutoff for this will be March 16th, and will be in shops July 1st.
• 30:00
  Phil: I'm sure the International Pale of Bark Experts are just a bunch of dogs.
• 30:06
  Tyler Johnson: just a…
• 30:07
  Tad Eggleston: Don't you knock Carl Barks.
• 30:09
  Phil: I'm not knocking!
• 30:10
  Tad Eggleston: expert.
• 30:11
  Phil: I'm not knocking! I'm not knocking! I love dogs, too.
• 30:17
  Tyler Johnson: Just hit… Park joke.
• 30:19
  Tad Eggleston: Don't mess with my duck… duck books.
• 30:22
  Phil: I would not. I would not. I would be a fool to either criticize or lampoon the work of Karl Barks.
• 30:30
  Tad Eggleston: Just so we're clear.
• 30:32
  Phil: Yes.
• 30:33
  Phil: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff for Monday, March 2nd, we have Action 50th Anniversary Special with work from Garth Ennis, Steve White, Rob Williams, Patrick Goddard, John Higgins, Stas Johnson, Mike Dory from Rebellion out on
• 30:49
  Tad Eggleston: May 13th, we have the aforementioned
• 30:52
  Tad Eggleston: Complete 2000 AD by Alan Moore, future shocks and other stories from Alan Moore, Dave Gibbons, Alan Davis, Ian Gibson, John Higgins, Steve Dillon from Rebellion, out April 8th. Everyone Loves a Jewel Thief, number one, from Tim Seeley and Aaron Campbell, out from Ignition Press. Final order cutoff is…
• 31:11
  Tad Eggleston: March 2nd, I did some cutting and pasting.
• 31:16
  Tad Eggleston: From the above. It'll be out on April 8th. Godzilla's Monster Piece Theater presents Romeo and Juliet.
• 31:28
  Tad Eggleston: And Godzilla.
• 31:30
  Tyler Johnson: Of course.
• 31:32
  Tad Eggleston: From Adam Tierney and Sean Peacock with a Godzilla and a Robin Hood backup story by Tom Scholi, in stores from IDW on April 8th.
• 31:42
  Tad Eggleston: Everybody's been waiting for it, and everybody's involved in it. Superman and Spider-Man number 1 from DC and Marvel, on my birthday, March 25th.
• 31:53
  Phil: Oh, wow, heck of a birthday present.
• 31:54
  Tad Eggleston: Daredevil No. 1's my bigger birthday present.
• 31:58
  Phil: No, I truly…
• 31:58
  Tad Eggleston: how I make comics from Kim Deich.
• 32:00
  Tad Eggleston: Fanographics on April 8th. Pear Shape from Nick Thorburn at Fanographics on June 17th, Pumpkin Heads from Dave Baker and Nicole Goo at Top Shelf on April 7th, and Tia Dora's Letters and Enslaved Woman's Fight for Family and Freedom
• 32:19
  Tad Eggleston: by Marcelo de Solete at Fanta Graphics in stores on April 8th.
• 32:24
  Tad Eggleston: Still crowdfunding, we have Slay.
• 32:26
  Tad Eggleston: The Girlfriend Survives, a Devil First Issue flipbook from Jeremy Whitley, Alex Smith, and Luke Nakashoji at Zoop through March 5th. We got a couple of new humble bundles to go with the three that we had last week. We've got the massive verse from Image Comics, $18 for 24 books.
• 32:47
  Tad Eggleston: with, proceeds going to the Book Industry Charitable Foundation through March 3rd. The Witcher and Cyberpunk 277 collection from Dark Horse, $16 for 28 books for special effect
• 33:01
  Tad Eggleston: a UK charity to help disabled people enjoy video games. That's available through March 4th. NBM 50th Anniversary.
• 33:10
  Tad Eggleston: $15 for 40 graphic novels for the Starlight Children's Foundation to deliver happiness to seriously ill children and their families. That was extended to March 5th. This isn't comics, but it's enough adjacent that I threw it in. Terry Pratchett's Discworld, $16 for 36 novels.
• 33:31
  Tad Eggleston: to support HFC, which is a charity to care for families impacted by Alzheimer's, and then Indie Comic United, a super bundle of awesome stuff. $18 for 60 items.
• 33:44
  Tad Eggleston: To support the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund through March 12th. There's… All sorts of stuff.
• 33:52
  Tad Eggleston: There's phantographic stuff, there's small, small press stuff, there's…
• 33:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. You guys should look at this one. This, this is…
• 34:02
  Phil: Absolutely, yeah.
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: a must-buy. $18 for these 60 items, unless you have them all.
• 34:10
  Tad Eggleston: Or, or, like, a significant, significant portion.
• 34:13
  Tad Eggleston: It's just all but a must-buy. So, anyway,
• 34:20
  Tad Eggleston: I did actually manage to read some books this week.
• 34:23
  Phil: Yay!
• 34:24
  Tad Eggleston: I do legit have 3 amazing books, and they're not the only 3 books I read. I read
• 34:31
  Tad Eggleston: I think… 2 more?
• 34:35
  Tyler Johnson: Near.
• 34:35
  Tad Eggleston: No, 3 more.
• 34:37
  Phil: Okay.
• 34:38
  Tyler Johnson: That's like, it's like…
• 34:39
  Tad Eggleston: That's like me.
• 34:41
  Tyler Johnson: You know, my three books of the week would be the three that I read, usually.
• 34:48
  Tyler Johnson: And so…
• 34:50
  Tad Eggleston: End of Life No. 1 from Kyle Starks and Steve Pugh was just ridiculous. It's good, it's good.
• 34:55
  Tyler Johnson: It's so…
• 34:56
  Tad Eggleston: was so… so good.
• 35:00
  Tad Eggleston: it's Jeff meets Daredevil from Kelly Thompson and Geary Huru at Marvel slipped into my 2 spot.
• 35:10
  Tad Eggleston: An American Caper No. 4 from Danhauser, Laszlo, and David Lapham at Dark Horse. Wrap out my 3, so take a walk, Phil!
• 35:19
  Phil: Oh, yeah! So I had another week of not quite getting to the comic book store, you know, which means next week is an absolute must to, to, you know…
• 35:30
  Phil: Cause, and this is an early one, it's the… the, you know, last issue for now of the Power Fantasy, and, of course, we… we don't know if it's the last, last issue, or just the last issue for now, and, you know…
• 35:45
  Phil: But that's not now. I went to the library. I went to the library and said I picked up a gigantic stack of 16 whole volumes of a manga called Blue Period by Tsubasa Yamaguchi. It is about a slacker high school student who, you know, after having,
• 36:04
  Phil: you know, encounter with a couple of his classmates that really, change his views on art, decides to put his all into becoming an artist. And so, it's about, you know, him training and practicing, art skills and the artistic landscape of Japan. It's really fascinating, some really incre… like, they have… it's not just one artist doing the artworks of the characters.
• 36:27
  Phil: They have a bunch of different artists that they say, like, oh, it's this person in different styles, it's really incredible stuff.
• 36:34
  Phil: And it also got me thinking a lot. There is, a character who goes by, Yuka or Ryuji, who is, definitely genderqueer, and I say that specifically because
• 36:49
  Phil: their presentation, they're referred to in the story as a boy who wears women's clothing, and the first time I read this, it… it…
• 36:59
  Phil: kind of…
• 37:00
  Phil: it made me question, okay, what actually is happening here? You know, what is the identity of this character, and how they're being referred to? Is it,
• 37:11
  Phil: You know, is it in line with…
• 37:14
  Phil: with, you know, like, a positive representation. Is this gonna go in a good, healthy direction? Because…
• 37:21
  Phil: from a certain lens, it initially looks like the main character, misgenders them, but it's more complicated than that, naturally. And it got me thinking about,
• 37:32
  Phil: The lived experiences of genderqueer people throughout the world, and sometimes it can be a lot more complicated when realizing, okay, hey, this is not just
• 37:41
  Phil: a marginalized identity. This is a marginalized identity in another country that has its own cultural history and social norms, and even the aspect of language to consider in translation. So, it has sent me on the start of a research rabbit hole of trying to learn more about the experiences of gender poor people around the world.
• 38:03
  Phil: And what it's like growing up in different cultures from ours. So, that was… that was a fun little journey.
• 38:09
  Phil: That, I went on that leads into the One Piece race, where, you know, all that from one chapter.
• 38:17
  Phil: Big thoughts! Big thoughts from one chapter, but you know, since this is from the… this is my new, you know, I've… I've…
• 38:25
  Phil: I've put down Mob Psycho for now. I'll definitely…
• 38:29
  Phil: get back to Tower Dungeon, because Volume 4 has come in. But, yeah, this is gonna be… this is gonna be my, manga reading for the foreseeable future, until I can push through it.
• 38:38
  Tad Eggleston: Un Peace Race, was still becalmed. I'm still stuck on 626 chapters.
• 38:45
  Phil: You're waiting for me to catch up, you know?
• 38:47
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, yeah.
• 38:48
  Phil: I gotta get, like, 600 chapters under my belt of something.
• 38:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Ted, we'll catch up quick. Well, don't you worry about it.
• 38:56
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I suppose it's…
• 38:58
  Phil: It's… it's possible.
• 39:00
  Tad Eggleston: But.
• 39:01
  Tyler Johnson: I… I am willing to, officially announce I have stopped reading One Piece.
• 39:09
  Phil: How could you?
• 39:10
  Tyler Johnson: Well, it's too long. That's how… that's how it comes.
• 39:16
  Phil: Do you think they should have broken it up into a few pieces? More than just one? No? Just one?
• 39:21
  Tyler Johnson: No, it's in the name, with one piece.
• 39:24
  Phil: It's one piece, that's all you get. It's just one big book.
• 39:27
  Tyler Johnson: One big honkin' pile of…
• 39:30
  Tyler Johnson: No, it's good. It's not… no, it's… no, no, no, no, I don't mean that.
• 39:35
  Tyler Johnson: I just meant its sheer volume is daunting.
• 39:38
  Phil: It is, and that's where I would love for Tad to still hit the goal of being caught up on One Piece by the conclusion of One Piece, you know? At the very least, if you can read that final chapter.
• 39:52
  Tad Eggleston: And I still hope to.
• 39:53
  Phil: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Phil: It's, I, you know, I'll try to, I'll try to, since I don't… Summer is coming, spring break is coming. Okay, there we go.
• 40:02
  Tad Eggleston: These are both times that could lead to more reading.
• 40:09
  Tad Eggleston: But, this actually leads to my, my way, way, way…
• 40:20
  Tad Eggleston: what's the word I'm looking for? M-more…
• 40:25
  Tyler Johnson: OCD?
• 40:29
  Tad Eggleston: more disturbing…
• 40:36
  Phil: Reclivities?
• 40:38
  Tad Eggleston: Confession. Confession.
• 40:40
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, here we go.
• 40:42
  Phil: I love a good confession.
• 40:43
  Tad Eggleston: And as we move into our great responsibility, 20th Century Men.
• 40:49
  Tad Eggleston: I did not manage to reread it this week, so you guys are…
• 40:55
  Phil: Kat, this is where…
• 40:56
  Tad Eggleston: You guys are on the spot.
• 40:58
  Phil: That's okay, you know, here… you… you… I think… I think you've deserved a break, you know?
• 41:05
  Tyler Johnson: You son of a bitch.
• 41:06
  Tad Eggleston: Whether I deserved one or not, I kinda wound up taking one.
• 41:11
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. I mean, that's what happens?
• 41:12
  Phil: Pretty heavy book. You're holding them to the fire!
• 41:16
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, what happened?
• 41:17
  Phil: Readboard!
• 41:17
  Tad Eggleston: It was cheap.
• 41:19
  Tyler Johnson: No, I'm just teasing. No, you had mentioned, you had alluded to that it was a… it was a week. Oh, I'm sure.
• 41:24
  Tad Eggleston: week.
• 41:25
  Phil: I'm sure.
• 41:26
  Phil: You're wheeling okay, you're traversing in your, in your automobiles, that's not…
• 41:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 41:32
  Phil: As long as…
• 41:33
  Tad Eggleston: The cars are good.
• 41:35
  Phil: Excellent.
• 41:36
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the week even ended, you know, ended pretty well.
• 41:40
  Phil: That's good.
• 41:42
  Tad Eggleston: But, it was just a, a long… Journey to get there.
• 41:49
  Phil: Yeah.
• 41:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 41:51
  Phil: And I mean, I can… I can understand why this might have been a slightly difficult book to read, right? You know, it's…
• 41:59
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I mean, I don't think the book itself would have been hard to read if I'd started it. I love this book.
• 42:05
  Phil: Oh, it's great! I just mean that I couldn't stop thinking about, you know, wow, it's certainly a little surreal reading a book about World War III.
• 42:14
  Phil: Right now… Well, I mean, yes, there is that. Yeah.
• 42:19
  Phil: You know, which is to say that, yeah, this is an absolutely
• 42:26
  Phil: stunningly beautiful book. It… it knocked me off my socks in the…
• 42:32
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, the painterly quality to the artwork is really cool.
• 42:36
  Phil: not just the painterly, but the way that… on the page, I swear there are so many pages where it feels like every panel's in a slightly different style.
• 42:44
  Tyler Johnson: A little bit, yup.
• 42:46
  Phil: Yeah.
• 42:46
  Tyler Johnson: Because look at… okay, I don't know if you can see my screen, but we're going from something like this.
• 42:52
  Phil: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, something with… it's a large.
• 42:55
  Tyler Johnson: And to…
• 42:56
  Phil: page somewhere.
• 42:57
  Tyler Johnson: And then to this, right? So we are switching styles completely, and I agree with you. It is… it is not… it's cool.
• 43:07
  Tyler Johnson: I enjoy this style of artwork like this, you know?
• 43:10
  Phil: For those, for those listening, Tyler is pointing at the, it goes from a, like, sun-soaked numb, clearly, like, a digital… a digital painting, sort of.
• 43:20
  Phil: sort of, style, to a very stark gray and line drawing, on the next page there. And then… so it's, it's where not just color, but also texture and, emphasis, like.
• 43:36
  Phil: The… the… when scenes are more linework-driven than, color and,
• 43:44
  Phil: And, rendering-driven, then it absolutely changes the mood.
• 43:49
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, yes, and then just a couple pages later, we jump to, Kabul… Cabal? Kabul? In 1987, and I'm gonna hold this up again. I know our readers can't see this, but again, the coloring completely.
• 44:03
  Phil: changes. Yeah, it does. Not just, in terms of palate, but also in terms of,
• 44:11
  Phil: Oh, I don't know the word for it,
• 44:15
  Phil: Yeah, texture, style, yeah, all of those sorts of things.
• 44:19
  Tyler Johnson: It looks great. I had a lot of fun with this story. Tad, you did read it at one point.
• 44:26
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I read it… I read it long ago.
• 44:28
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 44:28
  Tad Eggleston: I… I love… well, because Dennis actually sent us at least the first issue ahead of time.
• 44:34
  Tyler Johnson: Right.
• 44:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. I mean, we talked to him about this book right before it came out.
• 44:39
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 44:41
  Tad Eggleston: And, yeah, it's… it's a phenomenal book. I just… I… I… I don't have anything…
• 44:48
  Tad Eggleston: good to say about it today, because…
• 44:51
  Tyler Johnson: Nothing good to see. Nothing good to see.
• 44:54
  Tyler Johnson: Fresh in my head.
• 44:56
  Phil: It's understandable. No, I get it.
• 44:58
  Tad Eggleston: So I'm mostly letting you guys handle the great responsibility today. Stop calling me out, Tyler!
• 45:06
  Tad Eggleston: Putting me on the spot!
• 45:08
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, man.
• 45:09
  Phil: I'll take that spot, you know.
• 45:11
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, but… So far, we've only been talking about the artwork, but the story itself is great.
• 45:19
  Phil: is also great, yeah.
• 45:20
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 45:21
  Tyler Johnson: Man, I… now that you pointed out the different shifts in artwork.
• 45:27
  Phil: Yeah.
• 45:27
  Tyler Johnson: It's every few pages, because now we're going to this yellow motif.
• 45:33
  Tyler Johnson: That was weird.
• 45:34
  Phil: There's… I swear, it's, so it's actually on page 3 that I really got sucked into it, where it looks like the first drawing is kind of a landscape, and could be, I mean, any number of artist styles, but then the second panel…
• 45:51
  Phil: Looks heavily influenced by, oh, Richard Corbin, followed by… it was funny, then, the silhouettes…
• 46:03
  Tyler Johnson: Are you on the Vietnam… are you on the Vietnam?
• 46:05
  Phil: Yeah, so it's in Vietnam, so this is page 3 of issue 1. The silhouettes remind me of Eduardo Riso, and then that last panel reminds me of Frank Miller, with the, like.
• 46:15
  Phil: blocky, shape work. So it's, it's, just… and then even on the page before that, the last panel of, mostly white space, and then some red…
• 46:25
  Tyler Johnson: A little bit of color in his… in his hand.
• 46:28
  Phil: Yeah, it reminds me of, I forget the guy's name, but the artist who worked with Hunter S. Thompson on a lot of his books, like Fear and Loathy in Las Vegas, so…
• 46:36
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, that… oh my god, that'll come to me. That'll come to me. I know…
• 46:41
  Phil: I know he drew, artwork for a brand of beer that I've stocked on shelves, but it's just… this…
• 46:50
  Phil: I mean… Not only that, but there are some pages here that are… Just, like, elegantly stuffed.
• 46:58
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 46:59
  Phil: with both.
• 46:59
  Tyler Johnson: You ready?
• 47:00
  Phil: and captions, yeah.
• 47:01
  Tyler Johnson: Ralph Stedman.
• 47:02
  Phil: Ralph Stadman, yeah, okay, that sounds familiar. But there, there is a page that is just 12 panels
• 47:10
  Phil: without a grid. And I absolutely love that. I go nuts for, books that can…
• 47:16
  Tyler Johnson: Real free-flowing like that.
• 47:18
  Phil: Yeah, that can have, you know, variety between, okay, there are some books that kind of settle into… into a pace of, like, maybe 5 panels per page, and sometimes there'll be mostly a large one.
• 47:29
  Phil: This one is, like, it's a… in the same way the art style is constantly shifting and morphing to, display this, you know, multicultural… this worldview. It's truly trying to describe the whole world, not just one piece of it.
• 47:44
  Tyler Johnson: Yes.
• 47:45
  Phil: That the… the storytelling techniques
• 47:48
  Phil: you know, it's very much in contrast with, I want to say it was issue 4? That, just had captions, mostly captions that were snippets of text through this world, and series of double-page spreads. So it's… it's one where just the mood…
• 48:05
  Phil: Is evolving and shifting
• 48:08
  Phil: continuously, and it is… it is breathtaking, it's stunning. This… my main thought when I finished reading this was, holy shit, I need to read that again.
• 48:18
  Phil: You know? Yeah.
• 48:19
  Tyler Johnson: Yes.
• 48:20
  Phil: It's just… It is…
• 48:24
  Phil: Yeah, it is stunning. I… did this come… was this coming out in single issues? Let me check the date real quick. If it was 20…
• 48:29
  Tyler Johnson: I think so, I'm 23.
• 48:32
  Phil: No!
• 48:33
  Phil: So, late 22, and then the last issue is…
• 48:40
  Phil: February 2023. So, okay, so it did wrap up in early 2023, but yeah, there was so much buzz around this, that I had to go down and I had to hunt down the single issues a little late, but I have.
• 48:53
  Tyler Johnson: Did you?
• 48:53
  Phil: Yeah.
• 48:54
  Tyler Johnson: That was awesome. Yeah, and my copy of number 1 is, like.
• 48:58
  Phil: I think I accidentally spilled some water on it, because.
• 49:01
  Tyler Johnson: No!
• 49:02
  Phil: Yeah, I know, so it's a little… none of the pages are stuck together, but, it is a little bit warped, a little bit beat up, a little bit of a crunchy… I'd say it's like a… probably a 6 on the… on the quality… the grade scale, but, like, it's… it added to it, you know? It's like, I'm like…
• 49:18
  Tyler Johnson: Like, we are.
• 49:19
  Phil: It wouldn't… you have this, like, textured and gritty story about war, and it's on, like, warped paper that, you know, it's… that's just slightly, slightly…
• 49:32
  Phil: like.
• 49:34
  Phil: making louder noises as you turn it, it just… I don't know, it had a great feel to it. It's…
• 49:38
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 49:39
  Phil: one where, in the past, I have, gotten sad if I've ever accidentally, like, damaged a comic and blamed myself, but now I just kind of embrace it, and I'm like, you know what? It is what it is, I can still read it, and I actually am loving it more for being just a tiny bit messed up, because then it's like.
• 49:56
  Tyler Johnson: I can't. I can't get past that.
• 49:59
  Phil: Oh, no.
• 50:00
  Tyler Johnson: No, if it was… if mine was damaged, I would be… I would just probably get rid of it.
• 50:06
  Phil: Well…
• 50:07
  Tyler Johnson: Unless…
• 50:09
  Tyler Johnson: I just… I am so OCD, I can't handle if I wreck something. I would go buy a new one.
• 50:16
  Phil: Well, and that's… I mean, like, this book is so incredible that I'm like, oh, I would love to have a hardcover of this. I don't remember if they put out a hardcover before the trade or not, but…
• 50:26
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know.
• 50:27
  Phil: But that's… that's now… those are… I'm like, okay, if I can have an intact hardcover, I… I can live with slightly funky single issues here and there, just because…
• 50:36
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 50:37
  Phil: you know, I, I read them, I, I know I don't, bag and board them enough, so, it's, it's definitely one of those things that,
• 50:48
  Phil: That is… yeah.
• 50:50
  Tyler Johnson: Do you have piles… do you have piles of raw comics sitting around your house?
• 50:54
  Phil: I actually don't, because my wife would… would, go nuts with that. So they're… they're isolated to just by my bedside, so it's a couple stacks, and I actually mostly… I have a couple short boxes that… Okay. And I just… I just put them in there, so they're not…
• 51:11
  Phil: white piles. They're at least, you know, standing up in a short box, just without begging board.
• 51:17
  Tyler Johnson: Sure, sure.
• 51:18
  Phil: in their raw.
• 51:19
  Tad Eggleston: This is why I bag and board my comics before I leave the store.
• 51:25
  Phil: Hmm, yeah.
• 51:26
  Phil: Yeah, I, I don't know.
• 51:30
  Tyler Johnson: I go back and forth, like, there's some that are definitely not worth bagging and boarding, but I'm just so…
• 51:37
  Tyler Johnson: obsessive, I just do them every, every one of them.
• 51:40
  Tad Eggleston: I don't think there's any that's not worth bagging and boarding, just because I'm only doing it to keep them readable longer.
• 51:49
  Phil: Yeah, I mean.
• 51:50
  Tad Eggleston: This is a good way to store them.
• 51:52
  Phil: This, this is…
• 51:53
  Tad Eggleston: I'm getting…
• 51:53
  Phil: I mean…
• 51:54
  Tad Eggleston: Torn up by the cats.
• 51:55
  Phil: Well, your cats tear up comics?
• 51:59
  Tad Eggleston: My cat… I don't think they've torn up a comic yet, but, like, I don't want to put that to the test, because they do like tearing up things.
• 52:07
  Phil: They do, yeah. I mean, my guys… my guys have… thankfully, I don't think they've ever destroyed anything…
• 52:13
  Phil: You know, but they… again, they've… we got a nice, a really fun leaf-shaped rug that we put in the middle of the room, and they were like, we're gonna scratch this! And we're like, no, stop it! You jerks! This is ours, this is our nice thing!
• 52:29
  Tyler Johnson: You dicks! Yo. You don't even pay rent, get out of here!
• 52:34
  Phil: I say that.
• 52:36
  Phil: As one of my guys is lovingly sleeping in my lap right now.
• 52:40
  Tyler Johnson: That's funny. Oh, yeah.
• 52:42
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 52:44
  Tyler Johnson: But yeah…
• 52:45
  Phil: I just, I also wanted to give a shout out here. This is, probably my favorite depiction of an American president that I've read in a while.
• 52:56
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, yeah?
• 52:57
  Phil: Where, yeah, in the sense that, okay, this is, like, a super-powered bastard Reagan was the.
• 53:04
  Tyler Johnson: since I got out of him, where…
• 53:07
  Phil: It's… so, it's also… it's an interesting choice to have your protagonist be Russian, you know, because…
• 53:16
  Tyler Johnson: True.
• 53:17
  Phil: I mean, Russia is… is…
• 53:19
  Phil: a pretty awful place, and while, you know, my heart goes out to the people who endure living there under the tyrannical regime, it's…
• 53:28
  Phil: As a state, has been,
• 53:32
  Phil: the aggressor and in the wrong, morally speaking, a lot. However, by shifting that perspective just a bit, I feel like
• 53:41
  Phil: that allows Camp to go in harder on how awful and terrible and evil America has been.
• 53:49
  Phil: You know, it's one of those books where you very quickly realize, even though this is a book about quote-unquote superheroes.
• 53:57
  Phil: These… these are not good people. These are…
• 54:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, and doesn't that monster…
• 54:01
  Phil: world.
• 54:02
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, and yes, and, and, and…
• 54:05
  Tad Eggleston: The book, we're talking about monsters, but doesn't that also… raise… The question,
• 54:16
  Tad Eggleston: Are we perhaps overusing things like
• 54:20
  Tad Eggleston: Evil and terrible, and does that prevent us from seeing each other as humans?
• 54:26
  Tad Eggleston: And actually looking at The needs of different groups of people.
• 54:33
  Tyler Johnson: Hmm.
• 54:34
  Phil: So, I think it… I agree with you. I definitely agree with your sentiment that, that…
• 54:44
  Phil: Because of our culture of,
• 54:49
  Phil: combining evil with the unknown and with the other, that yes, that absolutely does that. I think that…
• 54:55
  Phil: In this book, it's a little bit…
• 54:59
  Tad Eggleston: Oh yeah, no, in this book, it's… it's… and that's why I made that caveat.
• 55:04
  Phil: Sure, sure, sure.
• 55:05
  Tad Eggleston: but… but by…
• 55:08
  Tad Eggleston: taking a slightly different perspective, and Kim does it, some other people have done it, by making us look at
• 55:16
  Tad Eggleston: America from an outsider view, and some other country from an insider view.
• 55:22
  Phil: Yeah.
• 55:22
  Tad Eggleston: Doesn't it do…
• 55:30
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, again, I didn't re-read it this week, I'm having to stretch back. Doesn't it do some…
• 55:37
  Tad Eggleston: Humanization of both sides.
• 55:40
  Phil: I… see, that's the thing.
• 55:42
  Tad Eggleston: Greater humanization of both sides.
• 55:44
  Phil: I did normally, so in an example of a work like Superman Red Sun, I think that's a book that both sides and tries to equate America and Russia in those ways. I think that in this one, I actually did not see a lot of humanity and sympathy in American characters.
• 56:04
  Phil: More or less at all.
• 56:05
  Phil: And that's kind of what I mean by it allows him to go in harder, where if instead…
• 56:12
  Phil: And so, well… I guess, if anything, it…
• 56:17
  Tad Eggleston: Given the fact that the reader lives in America.
• 56:21
  Phil: Generally, yeah.
• 56:22
  Tad Eggleston: Which… It tends to be,
• 56:27
  Tad Eggleston: focused on exceptionalism, isn't that alone a humanization of American characters?
• 56:34
  Phil: I think that…
• 56:36
  Tad Eggleston: say, oh, the bad guys can be American?
• 56:41
  Phil: Well, I… So…
• 56:46
  Tad Eggleston: Which doesn't make the other guys good guys.
• 56:51
  Phil: Yeah, I… so I think… I think that, yes.
• 56:53
  Tad Eggleston: Because that is one… I mean, think, think about how much hoopla we have over anybody who wants to support the rights of Palestinians.
• 57:03
  Phil: Right.
• 57:04
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, because, there's this idea that to question Israel in and of itself is anti-Semitic.
• 57:17
  Phil: Right.
• 57:18
  Phil: I mean, I don' agree with that.
• 57:19
  Tad Eggleston: There are…
• 57:20
  Phil: It's out there, yeah.
• 57:21
  Tad Eggleston: No, I, I don't, I don't either. Yeah. And there are absolutely some bad Palestinians.
• 57:28
  Phil: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 57:29
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, what you need to be able to get your head around is, yes.
• 57:36
  Tad Eggleston: Jews have gone through a lot, and yes.
• 57:41
  Tad Eggleston: Israel is probably necessary, at least now. Whether it was the best solution 70 years ago almost doesn't matter anymore.
• 57:51
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 57:52
  Tad Eggleston: We've reached a point where it can't go away.
• 57:58
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and…
• 57:59
  Phil: And real quick to cut in there, I think that instead, it's hard to imagine an America that does not support Israel anymore. I don't know if it's necessary, but for the direction that America's heading in, it is.
• 58:14
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I don't… I mean, that, that's, that's a… that's another question entirely.
• 58:20
  Phil: It is, it is, yeah.
• 58:22
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I honestly think, at this point,
• 58:30
  Tad Eggleston: America stopping military support to Israel could be the best thing that happened to Israelis.
• 58:38
  Tad Eggleston: Because I don't think they would get overrun.
• 58:42
  Tad Eggleston: But I think that they would have to start negotiating for real. Yeah. I think they would need to start treating their neighbors as humans.
• 58:49
  Phil: Yeah.
• 58:50
  Phil: That… that is for sure. It's… I… I observed a similar argument to this online this week, where, you know, one person
• 58:59
  Phil: said, like, oh, you know, point out, like, two-state… two-state solutionists typically don't work. And the thought I had was, well, I mean, I think that a two-state solution would be possible if Israel didn't continue to provoke and agitate and aggress.
• 59:18
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, at this point… at this point, for a two-state solution to work.
• 59:22
  Tad Eggleston: They would not only have to get out of Gaza, they would have to seriously get out of the West Bank. The reason a two-state solution won't work is, like, there is no continuous.
• 59:33
  Phil: set of Palestinian…
• 59:35
  Tad Eggleston: held territory that's more than a couple square miles. Exactly, yes, yes. The reason…
• 59:41
  Phil: Yeah, the reason it doesn't work is because the… there is not space for the second state.
• 59:45
  Tad Eggleston: And frankly, it's debatable whether it was ever the best option.
• 59:50
  Phil: True. True.
• 59:52
  Tad Eggleston: Because if you had… a… a…
• 59:57
  Tad Eggleston: true democracy there, a Palestinian and Israeli democracy, where they each had votes.
• 1:00:08
  Tad Eggleston: That… Would be much harder for…
• 1:00:15
  Tad Eggleston: The rest of the region should just label as interlopers.
• 1:00:19
  Phil: Sure.
• 1:00:21
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, again.
• 1:00:23
  Phil: issue.
• 1:00:23
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, the, the…
• 1:00:26
  Tad Eggleston: And the other issue is you've got 70 years of history. But we're going down a rabbit hole that I didn't mean to go down.
• 1:00:34
  Phil: It's okay.
• 1:00:35
  Tad Eggleston: I was just… Well, so, so… These discussions in general are so much harder.
• 1:00:46
  Tad Eggleston: when…
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: When we refer to each other and think of each other in absolute terms.
• 1:01:01
  Phil: Yes, agreed. Agreed.
• 1:01:04
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the reason why Donald Trump still has 30% support is much less the idea that
• 1:01:20
  Tad Eggleston: That there are 30% of the people who actually approve of what he's doing.
• 1:01:28
  Tad Eggleston: And much more.
• 1:01:31
  Tad Eggleston: about… The fact that… There is a certain portion of the…
• 1:01:37
  Tad Eggleston: population that has been convinced over decades that Democrats are evil.
• 1:01:48
  Tad Eggleston: And they don't think about it harder than that.
• 1:01:51
  Tyler Johnson: That's true.
• 1:01:52
  Phil: And so I guess what I'm imagining is that by framing
• 1:01:58
  Phil: for mostly American readers, a story where America is…
• 1:02:03
  Phil: clearly and undisputably the enemy. What it does is ultimately humanize
• 1:02:12
  Phil: those seen as enemies by America, because you have to sort of invert the situation mentally.
• 1:02:18
  Phil: To find that.
• 1:02:19
  Tad Eggleston: And what I meant by saying it humanizes Americans is I think too often we think of ourselves as superhuman.
• 1:02:26
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't mean it makes us suddenly…
• 1:02:31
  Phil: Okay, okay.
• 1:02:32
  Tad Eggleston: Inhuman, too.
• 1:02:33
  Phil: Right, right. You were… you were… you were saying by humanizing us, it lowers us.
• 1:02:38
  Tad Eggleston: Lovely.
• 1:02:38
  Phil: Elevate.
• 1:02:38
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, interesting. It makes both sides equal.
• 1:02:44
  Tad Eggleston: Or more equal, rather than…
• 1:02:47
  Phil: See, and that's where… that's one.
• 1:02:48
  Tad Eggleston: Or at least makes you think of them in more equal terms. But you consider them based on their actions more than their…
• 1:02:58
  Tad Eggleston: Color or, or, or nationality.
• 1:03:01
  Phil: And so I think that…
• 1:03:03
  Phil: I actually don't see a lot of equality in this book. I think instead of saying that it equalizes.
• 1:03:09
  Tad Eggleston: Again, I haven't read it in forever.
• 1:03:11
  Phil: I know, I know, but I would say that I think it… I think it changes. It changes the way you perceive these, these nations and these people.
• 1:03:19
  Phil: So… because there's… this is also a book that is heavily about imbalances, and the differences between the parts of the world. So… but…
• 1:03:30
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 1:03:31
  Phil: In terms of morality, yes, it definitely morally equalizes.
• 1:03:36
  Tad Eggleston: We have Tyler on a clock, and…
• 1:03:38
  Phil: Right.
• 1:03:39
  Tad Eggleston: We have breaking comic book news.
• 1:03:41
  Phil: Dun dun dun!
• 1:03:43
  Phil: Let's transition. I think we've… I feel like we've plumbed this mine.
• 1:03:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, and this is only in the launching soon phase, but friend of the podcast, Jonathan Bayliss's Next So Buttons.
• 1:03:55
  Tad Eggleston: Anthology of Autobio Comics. Who's My Daddy?
• 1:03:59
  Tad Eggleston: has just gone up to be followed on Kickstarter, so go over there and click that save button to be notified on launch.
• 1:04:10
  Tad Eggleston: Each story illustrated by a different artist, including Noah Van Skeiver, Banu Pratap, B. Muir, and Nathan Gilgood.
• 1:04:19
  Tad Eggleston: So, I, I love all of,
• 1:04:26
  Tad Eggleston: Jonathan Sobutton's story, so I am happy to see that he has another one on the way!
• 1:04:33
  Tad Eggleston: And, since that literally just pinged, I can say it's breaking comic news!
• 1:04:39
  Phil: freaking!
• 1:04:39
  Tad Eggleston: Even though this won't go up for… for, like, 24 hours, 36 hours, so, like, by the time anybody hears it, it'll be a day and a half old.
• 1:04:50
  Phil: comic series.
• 1:04:51
  Tyler Johnson: But we can… we've got it on recording here that we…
• 1:04:54
  Tyler Johnson: You reported it the minute it came out.
• 1:04:57
  Tad Eggleston: the, the, the.
• 1:04:58
  Phil: one of…
• 1:04:59
  Tad Eggleston: Daniel came in at… 817.
• 1:05:05
  Tyler Johnson: AM on…
• 1:05:06
  Phil: You had a… you had a…
• 1:05:07
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, the first one came in at $8.16, because…
• 1:05:11
  Tyler Johnson: February 21st.
• 1:05:13
  Tad Eggleston: in 2016.
• 1:05:13
  Tyler Johnson: basics.
• 1:05:14
  Tad Eggleston: Because Jonathan's smart. He sends out a project update from all of his previous projects to say that the new project is coming.
• 1:05:23
  Phil: Hmm?
• 1:05:23
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:05:24
  Phil: That is a pretty good move.
• 1:05:25
  Tad Eggleston: since I've backed a couple of them on Kickstarter, I got 2 messages right on top of each other.
• 1:05:31
  Phil: Nice.
• 1:05:32
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, cool.
• 1:05:33
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:05:36
  Tyler Johnson: Awesome.
• 1:05:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, I am moving into a theater today, I'm in a play.
• 1:05:43
  Tyler Johnson: And we, go on on Friday, so we are moving into our theater space today.
• 1:05:52
  Phil: Oh, wow. It's exciting.
• 1:05:54
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Tyler Johnson: So, if you guys want to see a really funny slapstick, you know, version of, Robin Hood.
• 1:06:02
  Tyler Johnson: Easy.
• 1:06:04
  Tad Eggleston: Is it Robin Hood and Godzilla?
• 1:06:06
  Tyler Johnson: No, no, but I do point… I do play Robin's accountant.
• 1:06:13
  Tyler Johnson: And so… But there's a lot of…
• 1:06:17
  Tad Eggleston: and, and, and Godzilla.
• 1:06:20
  Phil: They didn't have the license, Oni still has it. Or, IDW still has it.
• 1:06:26
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. So anyway, I play… I play a character who is David of Doncaster, and I… and I keep track of Robin's money.
• 1:06:37
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:06:38
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 1:06:39
  Phil: So, before they give to the poor, they give to you.
• 1:06:41
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, and then I keep strict notes of it throughout the play, and it's just… it's pretty funny.
• 1:06:48
  Phil: That doesn't work.
• 1:06:49
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Tad Eggleston: Alright. Three books we hope will be spectacular. I'm gonna lead off with a couple that I know are spectacular. All Living from Roman Murdoff, a graphic novel at Fanographics.
• 1:07:02
  Tad Eggleston: Was just fabulous, and I need to… he was one of two interviews that I had to push to buy a car, and I need to get that reset up.
• 1:07:13
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I was excited for it, but it wasn't gonna work.
• 1:07:17
  Tad Eggleston: And then, The Peril of the Brutal Dark, an Ezra Cain Mystery, number one from Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips. Also recently announced…
• 1:07:28
  Tad Eggleston: Chris Condon has a book.
• 1:07:31
  Tad Eggleston: with… Charlie Adlard.
• 1:07:35
  Phil: Oh yeah, I did see that announcement.
• 1:07:37
  Tad Eggleston: sharp. Adlard.
• 1:07:39
  Phil: I, I heard Jacob Phillips say that he was drawing a new issue of That Texas Blood, so… Yep. Yep, so their stuff is rolling.
• 1:07:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yes! So… so my rock star buddy is… is… Adlard even had a quote about having wanted to work with Chris for a long time, so…
• 1:07:58
  Phil: Really? Wow. Good for him, good for Chris.
• 1:08:01
  Tad Eggleston: That's so cool. Peril of the Brutal Dark and Ezra Kane Mystery No. 1, Chris Kahn and Jacob Phillips is as,
• 1:08:11
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm almost glad that I'd read it already, because my top 3 books for this week are bangers as well, and I didn't put Jesse Lonergan or Save Now on my list.
• 1:08:21
  Tad Eggleston: What? So no Miss Truesdale, and no save now on my top 3 list, because we've got Is Ted OK? number 1 from Dave Chisholm at Mad Cave. Absolute Martian Manhunter, number 9 from Dennis Camp and Javier Rodriguez at DC, and…
• 1:08:42
  Tad Eggleston: Russell Heist No. 3 from Kyle Starks at Image.
• 1:08:46
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, really, really good book of wheat, but… Week of books, and…
• 1:08:54
  Tad Eggleston: Phil didn't even mention Power Fantasy No. 16, which is just.
• 1:08:58
  Phil: I did my walk, I did my walk.
• 1:09:00
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:09:01
  Tyler Johnson: Ed.
• 1:09:01
  Phil: I didn't have a third down here.
• 1:09:03
  Tyler Johnson: I'm good. Yep.
• 1:09:04
  Phil: It's not been mentioned.
• 1:09:07
  Tyler Johnson: Hands up, I have nothing to do with this.
• 1:09:11
  Phil: On that note, my, giant-sized trade waiter graphic novel pick is a little book called The War by Garthy Ennis, Becky Klunes.
• 1:09:22
  Phil: It sounds… this team, Tamara Bonvillain and Pat Brasu from Boom, it sounds awesome. I love that a book called The War was published by Boom.
• 1:09:30
  Tad Eggleston: It was… it was serialized in.
• 1:09:33
  Phil: Booms the war.
• 1:09:35
  Tad Eggleston: high darkness.
• 1:09:37
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 1:09:40
  Tad Eggleston: It's really good stuff.
• 1:09:41
  Phil: I will definitely have to, see if this hits Hoopla or something, because I, I love Becky Kluman's work so much, absolutely incredible, and… colored by Von Villen, and I haven't read some Ennis in a while, so, so yeah, I'd be in the mood for it.
• 1:09:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, yep. I have Becky Clunan art on my wall. She did a Pearl Jam poster.
• 1:10:04
  Phil: That's so cool.
• 1:10:05
  Phil: That's awesome.
• 1:10:06
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think… I… I don't often actually take stuff to C2E2 to get
• 1:10:15
  Tad Eggleston: signed, but I think I might have to stick that in a tube and take it with me.
• 1:10:19
  Phil: Hell yeah. That'd be awesome. To get Becky to sign it. That'd be so cool.
• 1:10:24
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, a lot… a lot of the stuff I… well, and I might actually have to take my,
• 1:10:29
  Tad Eggleston: Professor Marston and the Wonder Woman in two, because that's a Terry Moore poster.
• 1:10:35
  Phil: Very cool. And I see you got a 11.
• 1:10:38
  Tad Eggleston: A lot of the stuff I have in my wall, or on my walls is already signed, because it's, like, prints and stuff that I got at C2E2, or various places.
• 1:10:49
  Phil: Can you imagine buying those and be like, no, no, no, don't autograph it, please?
• 1:10:53
  Tyler Johnson: Joe!
• 1:10:54
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, I see…
• 1:10:55
  Tyler Johnson: Sometimes afterwards.
• 1:10:56
  Tad Eggleston: So remember to ask.
• 1:10:57
  Phil: I know that, I understand.
• 1:10:58
  Tad Eggleston: Because not everybody's good at remembering to just offer.
• 1:11:02
  Phil: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah.
• 1:11:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:11:11
  Tyler Johnson: Cool. Alright, well, I'm gonna get rolling, guys, but…
• 1:11:16
  Tyler Johnson: Let's… let's take us out. Are we… we're good, right?
• 1:11:19
  Tyler Johnson: We're at the end. We're at the end.
• 1:11:21
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Tyler Johnson: It's the end of the world. Okay, no.
• 1:11:25
  Phil: This is the end.
• 1:11:27
  Phil: and my…
• 1:11:29
  Tad Eggleston: That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes in an airplane, many birds is not afraid.
• 1:11:34
  Phil: I love how we.
• 1:11:35
  Tad Eggleston: at C2E2 this year.
• 1:11:37
  Tyler Johnson: Three different songs.
• 1:11:38
  Phil: Yup.
• 1:11:39
  Tyler Johnson: Anyway, guys, we'll… I'm gonna try it. Here we go. We'll catch you… After next page.
• 1:11:46
  Tyler Johnson: Later.
• 1:11:49
  Phil: Where's the duh?