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Chuck & Buck 11-18 Hour 1: Naylz is back! Checking our QB panic meter and shakeups in the CFP rankings. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 6: and Buck coming your way here today.
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Speaker 5: Aren't you really? I mean, I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I realized what I got into when I moved here.
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Speaker 6: I've never really complained about the weather. But we've had
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Speaker 6: enough rain, had enough rain.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't really rain too bad this morning, though, right
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Speaker 3: was it.
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying this morning. I'm just being in general
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Speaker 6: like it just like it won't stop raining. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 6: had enough, had enough for a little while. Maybe maybe
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Speaker 6: we can get a little break from it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, take a break.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I just love how green it is. And
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Speaker 7: every time I get to where, I'm like, man, I'm damp.
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Speaker 7: I'm damp. I don't like being damp. I'm like, well,
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Speaker 7: it is beautiful. I got to look around and remember
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Speaker 7: that's why we it's as beautiful as it is most
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Speaker 7: of the year.
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Speaker 6: Well, Josh Naylor was obviously not scared away by the
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Speaker 6: rain and drawn to the beauty that is the Pacific Northwest.
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Speaker 6: Because our first Baseman made it official yesterday he has
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Speaker 6: signed a brand new deal five years, ninety two point
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Speaker 6: five million dollars. Josh Naylor is going to remain a
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Speaker 6: Seattle Mariner. There will be a press conference a little
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Speaker 6: bit later on today we'll get to hear those kernels
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Speaker 6: of wisdom from one of the smartest, most intelligent, most
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Speaker 6: thoughtful people in all of Major League Baseball, Josh Naylor,
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Speaker 6: and also the principles that made it happen. So that's
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Speaker 6: coming a little bit later on today. We'll have a
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Speaker 6: chance tomorrow to kind of react to what we heard.
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Speaker 6: But certainly, I mean, I think it's one of those stories,
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Speaker 6: and I've been here a decade now and it's just
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Speaker 6: one of those stories where it just looks like it
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Speaker 6: worked out for more people than anything that I think
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Speaker 6: that we've come across that the front office got what
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Speaker 6: they want. Maybe the ownership didn't get exactly what they wanted,
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Speaker 6: but they did what they needed to do. Fan base
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Speaker 6: got what they want, media got what they want, and
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Speaker 6: based off of Josh Naylor's printed words yesterday, he got
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Speaker 6: exactly what he wanted as well.
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Speaker 5: Seems like he fell in love with this place.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's great. I mean, you know, that's one of
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Speaker 7: the things you were hoping for, right is that when
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Speaker 7: he would get here and he did get here before
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Speaker 7: there was any rain. He got here right at the
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Speaker 7: best possible time when it comes to the weather, and
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Speaker 7: so maybe that was part of it. I think the
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Speaker 7: way in which the season went, you know, he had
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Speaker 7: some big moments. Then he gets to kind of reap
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Speaker 7: the rewards of what that feels like and how embraced
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Speaker 7: he was by the fan base. I think that there's
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Speaker 7: you know, kind of kudos to the fan base because
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Speaker 7: I think in large part when he was gonna possibly
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Speaker 7: miss games because of the birth of his first kid,
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Speaker 7: I think that there's some other fan bases that would
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Speaker 7: have been like, no, you do not miss a baseball
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Speaker 7: game for that, And I don't think that was the
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Speaker 7: overarching thought here. I think that may have played into
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Speaker 7: the whole thing, but it probably mostly comes down to
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Speaker 7: Jimmy Naylor just thinking I really like this group of
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Speaker 7: guys and I think that they're you know, that it's
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Speaker 7: a good team, and kind of wants to continue the
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Speaker 7: ride that he got to jump in on halfway through
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Speaker 7: the season and maybe see if he can help take
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Speaker 7: this team to heights that they have never reached.
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, there it was a little bit dangerous
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Speaker 6: letting him hit the free agent market. I mean you
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Speaker 6: can kind of go back to the offseason where in
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Speaker 6: Stove Anders and I talked about the entire offseason the
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Speaker 6: addition of Josh Naylor. They decided not to make that
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Speaker 6: change cur and then they do it at the trading deadline,
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Speaker 6: and fine, you got him at the trading deadline. You
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Speaker 6: got him when it matters the most, and he helped
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Speaker 6: us win a division and certainly had enough time to
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Speaker 6: win over the fan base and be won over by
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Speaker 6: the organization and by the city. So it all worked out.
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Speaker 6: But had you add like a full gear with him,
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Speaker 6: maybe it would have been easier. Maybe you wouldn't have
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Speaker 6: run the risk of him getting to free agency. But
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Speaker 6: there certainly was a little bit of risk of him
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Speaker 6: getting to free agency. I mean the Mets, the Yankees,
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Speaker 6: the Red Sox, those are all three of the biggest
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Speaker 6: spenders in the sport, and they all need first basement.
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Speaker 6: I mean, the Dodgers don't need one, Cubs don't need one,
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Speaker 6: but those three are all looking for first baseman this offseason.
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Speaker 6: So when you let free agency begin and Josh Naylor
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Speaker 6: was not signed, I mean, he probably waits this out
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Speaker 6: the right way, and he probably makes more money than
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Speaker 6: what he ended up signing with. He probably gets those
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Speaker 6: three teams into a bidding war once Alonso Pete Alonso
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Speaker 6: chooses one of them over the other, then all of
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Speaker 6: a sudden he's got an opportunity to possibly cash in
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Speaker 6: on a bigger prize.
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Speaker 5: But I love the fact. I love the fact that.
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Speaker 6: The Mariners were out in front of this and that
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Speaker 6: Josh Naylor, and this would have been my judge of
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Speaker 6: his personality, wasn't about the highest offer that he could get.
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Speaker 6: He could have waited this out and saw if there
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Speaker 6: was a larger offer to get, but instead the Mariners
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Speaker 6: met him with a reasonable market value offer. My guess
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Speaker 6: is they probably wanted him for a four year deal,
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Speaker 6: maybe at eighty and he's like, Eh, this is my
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Speaker 6: one chance to really make my money in the major leagues.
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Speaker 6: So what I'm gonna do is ask for a five
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Speaker 6: and then I think that they probably did settle on that.
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Speaker 6: But the Mariners obviously came out of the gates with
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Speaker 6: something that he and his agency felt was very reasonable,
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Speaker 6: and he obviously didn't need to go test the market.
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Speaker 6: Why do I need to see greener pastures. I'm perfectly
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Speaker 6: happy here. I got the offer that I was hoping
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Speaker 6: for leading up to this process. I'm not gonna let
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Speaker 6: my agent screw this up for me. This is a
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Speaker 6: great place for me to be. This is a potentially
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Speaker 6: great team for the next few years, and I'm going
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Speaker 6: to be making great money, so i don't need to
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Speaker 6: make the most money.
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Speaker 5: I'm happy with what we've got.
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Speaker 6: So I think there were a lot of things that
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Speaker 6: went to work here that really worked out well, including
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Speaker 6: ownership offering something of reasonable market value right out of
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Speaker 6: the shoot.
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Speaker 7: He definitely didn't play the long game. I mean, I
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Speaker 7: would have to think that as somebody else. The second
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Speaker 7: that the World Series was over and he could have
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Speaker 7: received calls or his agent could she calls it, somebody
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Speaker 7: would have been calling.
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Speaker 5: I think that's we know that.
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Speaker 7: The ownership, in the front office and the team, everybody
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Speaker 7: in Seattle was wanting Josh Naylor back, and I think
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Speaker 7: that they had said stuff like that that was well.
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Speaker 7: I know that the front office is that that's our
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Speaker 7: number one priority right when the season was over, right
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Speaker 7: and even before that, I think they probably had had
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Speaker 7: talks about like, well, you are a good fit here,
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Speaker 7: whether it's staying around the batting cage or bs and
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Speaker 7: in the clubhouse, and whether or not that was a hey,
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Speaker 7: we got a job to do right now, I could
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Speaker 7: see him being like, we got a job to do.
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Speaker 7: We'll take care of that business when it's time to
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Speaker 7: take care of that business. So I'm not sure how
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Speaker 7: it worked. If it was all right, you're a free
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Speaker 7: agent now, please let us have final say, right if
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Speaker 7: somebody contacts you, please let us have final say, or
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Speaker 7: if he was just playing and simple. He loved the clubhouse,
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Speaker 7: he loved the city, he loved what the potential is
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Speaker 7: here in Seattle, And basically they just started working on
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Speaker 7: this deal from the get go. Regardless of what was
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Speaker 7: going on behind the scenes, the front office stayed true
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Speaker 7: to their their their path or their plan, which was
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Speaker 7: we we went out there, we got this guy the
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Speaker 7: trade deadline. They you know, they don't like giving up
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Speaker 7: prospects to do that, and then doing so, you gave
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Speaker 7: up the basically the closest thing to a major league
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Speaker 7: ready first baseman and Tyler Locklear, and so I think
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Speaker 7: that they would like to they would have liked to
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Speaker 7: figure out how this thing went. And then as the
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Speaker 7: season went on, as the second half went on, with him,
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Speaker 7: maybe it probably became even more apparently we not only
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Speaker 7: would we like to keep him, we can't not keep
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Speaker 7: this guy. If we can get him for the right price,
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Speaker 7: then we you know, if we don't have to get
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Speaker 7: into a bidding war with somebody that would overpay for
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Speaker 7: his services, then let's do that. So they were on it.
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Speaker 7: They were on it from the get go. I'm sure
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Speaker 7: that they just were like, dude, just please here, take
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Speaker 7: this whatever whatever the cost is, if it's in this
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Speaker 7: in this realm, let's get this job done. And I'm
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Speaker 7: glad that they did because I think that he's he's
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Speaker 7: a guy that kind of brings a heartbeat to the
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Speaker 7: team that they were missing. I think as far as
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Speaker 7: the great ghosts.
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Speaker 6: Well, there's the other side of it. If they don't
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Speaker 6: get this deal done with him, whoo, I don't know
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Speaker 6: where you're searching for your first basement, because you're right,
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Speaker 6: they traded away the first basement of the closest thing
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Speaker 6: to the first basement of the future to get him,
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Speaker 6: which we're all good with. And they obviously aren't going
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Speaker 6: to go out there and pay top dollar for free
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Speaker 6: agencies free agency players. So Pete Alonso and Cody Bellinger
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Speaker 6: might very well price themselves out of the Seattle market.
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Speaker 6: And if you don't keep Naylor and he's on with
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Speaker 6: one of those other teams, Now, where are you searching?
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Speaker 5: Where are you getting your first basement?
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Speaker 6: You've got this massive hole now at first base and
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Speaker 6: a pretty thin market. I mean Murakami, he's a third baseman,
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Speaker 6: but there's talk that he might move to first base
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Speaker 6: pretty quickly. But you did avoid by making this and
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Speaker 6: getting this done right now. Man, if I'm Jerry, if
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Speaker 6: I'm just a and I'm looking at my off season checklist,
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Speaker 6: which I don't think is very deep, by the way,
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Speaker 6: just to warn people, if I'm looking at my off
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Speaker 6: season checklist, man, that first base, that nailer thing. I
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Speaker 6: felt so good going back to that piece of paper
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Speaker 6: and marking that check because I don't not only do
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Speaker 6: I get what I wanted, and I'm the first person
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Speaker 6: in the entire offseason, I'm the first franchise to get
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Speaker 6: what I wanted this offseason. I don't have to worry
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Speaker 6: about not having Josh Naylor. And I mean that's that's
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Speaker 6: killing two birds with one stone right there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the market's then, and yet it's an important position.
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Speaker 7: One the position and how well he plays it defensively,
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Speaker 7: but that spot in the lineup too, just the middle
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Speaker 7: of the lineup guy. And then again the intangibles, the
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Speaker 7: things that you can't find on a spreadsheet or a
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Speaker 7: stat sheet of what he brings to the table is
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Speaker 7: something I don't know for sure if it's out there.
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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, you got some higher priced guys, some
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Speaker 7: guys that maybe are have higher upside offensively, you know,
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Speaker 7: like the Polar Bear for example. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 7: see Josh Naylor hitting forty fifty home runs, and that's
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Speaker 7: fine because he also steals thirty bags. But I do
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Speaker 7: see him as bringing something to the table that I
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Speaker 7: don't know Pete Alonso, but I would be willing to
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Speaker 7: bet he doesn't have that same thing, that same grit,
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Speaker 7: that same thing that is it's hard to put. You know,
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Speaker 7: there's no number really that you can't put on it.
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Speaker 7: And yet they went out there and probably put a
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Speaker 7: number up there that maybe was a little bit more
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Speaker 7: made them a little bit more uncomfortable. I mean, it's
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Speaker 7: the most they've ever spent not a free agent since
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Speaker 7: you know, Jerry Depoto and Hollander have been in control
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Speaker 7: of those things. So I'm sure it made them a
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Speaker 7: little bit uncomfortable. At the same time, it's not like
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Speaker 7: you're going out there and spending you know, ninety two
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Speaker 7: million bucks on somebody you don't know for sure how
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Speaker 7: they're gonna meld with the rest of the team. You
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Speaker 7: just basically added a guy to the nucleus of this
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Speaker 7: team for the next five years, and I'm all for it.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: I keep hearing that that that's the most they've ever spent,
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Speaker 6: didn't they sign Robbie Ray to a five year.
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Speaker 5: One fifteen million dollar deal. Position players?
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Speaker 6: Oh, position players? Okay, that's what they're saying. I mean
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Speaker 6: I kept hearing that. I'm well, it's not like they've
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Speaker 6: never done this before.
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Speaker 7: And the Depoto era, now say position players, I mean
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Speaker 7: the Cano was before that, but that was before Depoto.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was before Depoto.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, as far as position players go, Mitch Garver was
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Speaker 7: the biggest one that worked out.
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Speaker 5: Well, it didn't work out at all, No, that didn't.
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Speaker 7: I had that one walk, remember big walk.
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Speaker 3: I do think that.
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Speaker 6: I love that Bucky missed the big game that Garver had,
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Speaker 6: like the like the Cubs game. You didn't even see it.
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Speaker 6: It's the one game that he contributed mightily to. It's
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Speaker 6: almost like God willed that to happen. Yeah, now I'm.
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Speaker 5: Gonna save Bucky from seeing this guy have one good moment.
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Speaker 5: I tried.
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Speaker 7: I stuck by that side guy's side as long.
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Speaker 5: As I could.
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Speaker 1: I do. Like though, like as far as the Nailor
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Speaker 1: signing goes it it helps the Mariners in the sense
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Speaker 1: that here's here's what we told you is how we
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Speaker 1: like to do things. We like to bring in people
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Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. We like to make sure that
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Speaker 1: they fall in love with the city. We like to
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Speaker 1: see how things go, and then you know, look, this
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Speaker 1: worked out just how we kind of talked about it
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Speaker 1: after the season when we were asked about trade deadline
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Speaker 1: and free agency and all of these things. And then
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Speaker 1: on top of it, now you've you've built all this
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Speaker 1: excitement and this goodwill going to the playoffs, and now
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Speaker 1: you're showing look, yeah we recognized it, we saw what
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Speaker 1: it did, and now we're going to do something about it,
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Speaker 1: and you're building continuing that goodwill with the fans, which
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Speaker 1: goodness knows is needed.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Well, and that, like I said, this sort of felt
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Speaker 6: like an obvious, go go for it kind of situation.
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Speaker 6: And I don't know what they would have been left
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Speaker 6: with had they not worked this out with the Nailor.
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Speaker 6: It would have it might have been searching high and
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Speaker 6: low to try to come up with something that they
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Speaker 6: felt because they don't do anything that is not financially
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Speaker 6: that they're not financially okay with. They're not going to
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Speaker 6: just go, oh, we didn't couldn't get Nailer.
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Speaker 5: We have no choice.
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Speaker 6: We gotta spend whatever it takes to get Alonso. That's
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Speaker 6: not they operate. So I mean for this to get
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Speaker 6: done this quickly, man, let the good times roll. I
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Speaker 6: think this is yeah to your point. I think this
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Speaker 6: is some great momentum heading into the off season. I
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Speaker 6: think it's the biggest priority. I think that they will
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Speaker 6: make a priority out of Jorge Polanco next. I gotta
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Speaker 6: believe that it's Polonco or Sworez and not Polonco and
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Speaker 6: the Sworez that will be brought back or will be
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Speaker 6: made a priority here in the off season.
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Speaker 5: I don't really know beyond that how aggressive that they'll be.
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Speaker 6: I don't I mean, they'll make some moves, but keep
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Speaker 6: in mind last offseason was about as dry an offseason
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Speaker 6: as you could spend, and it ended up with an
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Speaker 6: AL West title. I don't think beyond Naylor and Polanco
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Speaker 6: they are going to be all that aggressive this offseason.
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Speaker 6: And I frankly think that if they get Naylor and Polonko,
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Speaker 6: it's gonna be kind of a feed up on the desk.
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Speaker 6: All right, whatever happens from here, you know, we're good.
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Speaker 6: Those are the two things we wanted to get achieved
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Speaker 6: before the new year. Yeah, well, I mean those are
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Speaker 6: the two big ones, right, And I think that's probably
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Speaker 6: because of what you just said, where this isn't an organization,
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Speaker 6: and I don't think this is where. I don't think
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Speaker 6: Tiger will change its stripes drastically. They're not going to
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Speaker 6: go like, you know what that was, that playoff run
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Speaker 6: was really fun. Let's completely change our financial philosophy and
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Speaker 6: just spend bigger than everybody.
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Speaker 7: They're not going to do it now, maybe go outside
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Speaker 7: their comfort zone. But this is one where all right,
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Speaker 7: we'll go ahead and do that because of how the
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Speaker 7: cross section of where what we need and what he
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Speaker 7: brings and how it fits and all that stuff goes
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Speaker 7: hand in hand. And yet they still have plenty of
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Speaker 7: moves to make, but I think that I'm with you
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Speaker 7: that it's probably just two, two guys that you had,
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Speaker 7: that you bring those guys back. Hopefully it's two. I
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Speaker 7: hope it's not just one. Hopefully we get Polonko as well.
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Speaker 7: And I would choose Polonco far before Gino Suarez, even
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Speaker 7: though I love Gino. I just I just think that
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Speaker 7: pol Uncle has a little bit more of that grit
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Speaker 7: as well, a little bit more gurr and.
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Speaker 5: A little less good times. Yeah, and so well, look,
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Speaker 5: I think they'll kick the tires.
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just what they do. They kick the
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Speaker 6: tires on everything. They're gonna be thorough. But if they
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Speaker 6: get those two significant pieces done, I think that I
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Speaker 6: think they'll look at it as a successful offseason.
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Speaker 5: No matter what happens from there.
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Speaker 6: All right, So Josh Naylor press conference a little bit
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Speaker 6: later on today, Let's find out what is on tap
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Speaker 6: for the rest of our radio show.
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Speaker 5: Chuck, what's on tip?
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Speaker 4: What's on tap?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 6: Naylor's deal five years, ninety two point five million dollars
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Speaker 6: with no deferrals, going to underline that we actually pay
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Speaker 3: Oh, so he's not getting paid in twenty forty.
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17:56
Speaker 6: H wish everybody had to do that, but yes, Josh
18:03
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18:06
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18:08
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18:13
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18:44
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18:46
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18:50
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19:41
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Speaker 6: We'll play some Factor fiction at seven thirty five today,
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20:02
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Speaker 6: I would imagine everybody just having a little sleep over.
20:08
Speaker 3: I bet that's delicious food.
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Speaker 5: That's what I imagine.
20:11
Speaker 6: Anyway, Missus Fitzhugh taking care of all the cracking tonight
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Speaker 6: is there really some panic meters going off here regarding
20:33
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20:39
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Speaker 6: I don't understand why it's going on. I frankly think
20:49
Speaker 6: it's more of the national people's stirring stuff up than
20:53
Speaker 6: it is here locally. I certainly didn't hear anything like
20:57
Speaker 6: that from Hugh millon yesterday our qbe. He gave a
21:01
Speaker 6: fair assessment of Sam Donald's struggles on Sunday.
21:07
Speaker 5: Sam Donald was the reason that we lost that game.
21:09
Speaker 6: He threw four interceptions and he missed a wide open
21:11
Speaker 6: touchdown in the in the back of the end zone.
21:14
Speaker 6: I think Sam Bey the first one to admit that.
21:17
Speaker 3: He said it was his fault.
21:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't quite understand why we're suddenly on
21:23
Speaker 6: Sam Donald watch and whether or not we've got the
21:26
Speaker 6: right guy at quarterback, which is a conversation I've heard
21:28
Speaker 6: way too often here in the last even going into the.
21:31
Speaker 5: Game, I was hearing it too much.
21:34
Speaker 6: So maybe I've already shown my cards, and so I'll
21:38
Speaker 6: just go ahead and reveal it. If the panic meter
21:40
Speaker 6: is on a scale from one to ten regarding whether
21:44
Speaker 6: or not Sam Donald is the right fit for the Seahawks,
21:48
Speaker 6: my meter is at zero. I mean, my meter is
21:52
Speaker 6: not even moved based on Sunday. I have no concern
21:55
Speaker 6: over it at all. He had a bad game against
21:57
Speaker 6: a great defense, and I think think he will be
22:00
Speaker 6: better the next time.
22:01
Speaker 5: He faces them. I don't.
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Speaker 7: I don't think i'd go to zero, but it's not
22:05
Speaker 7: very far above it. Maybe one, and then maybe it's
22:09
Speaker 7: maybe it's individually against the Rams. Maybe I'd say it's
22:12
Speaker 7: a two or three. Just when I think, okay, maybe
22:15
Speaker 7: you do meet this team again in the playoffs, or
22:17
Speaker 7: we know we're going to meet him one time later
22:19
Speaker 7: on the season and then okay, that one is important.
22:23
Speaker 7: Now it feels more important than had you you know,
22:26
Speaker 7: that field goal went in, you know at the end
22:29
Speaker 7: of this game on Sunday. I mean, I think that
22:33
Speaker 7: it creates a little bit of like the hair on
22:36
Speaker 7: the back of my neck would stand up when you're
22:38
Speaker 7: getting ready for that game just now, because it's two
22:40
Speaker 7: times in a row that that coach or that that
22:43
Speaker 7: coaching staff has figured up a way to kind of
22:46
Speaker 7: befuddle him and force him into making a few mistakes.
22:49
Speaker 7: And you don't want that, obviously to happen in the
22:53
Speaker 7: in the postseason because your season's over, and so to me,
22:56
Speaker 7: it's leading into the next time that they play. And
22:59
Speaker 7: I I still walked away from that game thinking, overarching
23:03
Speaker 7: even better about the Seahawks. You lost a game, and
23:05
Speaker 7: I felt better about the Seahawks than I did going
23:08
Speaker 7: into it, and that's saying something because they were in
23:10
Speaker 7: first place.
23:11
Speaker 6: Truth be told, he made more good throws than Matt Stafford.
23:15
Speaker 6: He just made a lot more bad throws. He just
23:17
Speaker 6: made the more. He just made four crippling throws where
23:21
Speaker 6: Stafford made zero of those. And we all know how
23:24
Speaker 6: important the turnover battle is in the National Football League.
23:27
Speaker 6: I mean, it's such a cliche. We can't even use
23:30
Speaker 6: it as one of our keys.
23:32
Speaker 3: On Friday, some of us tried much take free.
23:37
Speaker 6: But look, I mean, I think personally and this did
23:41
Speaker 6: not come up in our four hours yesterday. I mean,
23:45
Speaker 6: I think there's something to I've not faced a great
23:48
Speaker 6: defense this year until this week.
23:51
Speaker 5: I think there's something to you know. I mean, Bucky,
23:54
Speaker 5: if you sat.
23:55
Speaker 6: There and you just faced a bunch of breaking ball
23:57
Speaker 6: pitchers week after week after week, doesn't mean they're not
24:01
Speaker 6: good pitchers, but you just faced breaking ball pitchers week
24:03
Speaker 6: after week after week, and then all of a sudden,
24:05
Speaker 6: you got to face Nolan Ryan on a Sunday.
24:07
Speaker 7: M hm.
24:08
Speaker 6: You know you might not be ready to face Nolan
24:11
Speaker 6: Ryan on a sudden. Now, give you a couple games
24:13
Speaker 6: to face Nolan Ryan. And I love fastball pitchers, man,
24:17
Speaker 6: I've been missing guys like this. But that's going from
24:21
Speaker 6: Jamie Moriers to Nolan Ryan overnight. And I'm not saying
24:24
Speaker 6: we faced like Jamie Moyers. We faced good defenses this year,
24:28
Speaker 6: but that's the first time we've faced a great defense
24:31
Speaker 6: the entire season. I think it had more to do
24:33
Speaker 6: with that than it did. Sam Darnold was overwhelmed by
24:37
Speaker 6: the moment, by the moment, or the opponent or the moment.
24:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, the moment. And that's where I think.
24:44
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't a panic meter hadn't even registered
24:47
Speaker 1: on my radar. Good And so I think, and especially
24:50
Speaker 1: because of this coaching staff, I think it's more an
24:53
Speaker 1: opportunity for what are they going to do to counteract
24:57
Speaker 1: that next time? And now they've got a month, you know,
25:01
Speaker 1: and they've got more games that they can try some
25:03
Speaker 1: new things out. They've got a plan that when they
25:06
Speaker 1: when they meet the Rams in December. I have all
25:08
Speaker 1: the confidence in the world that they can figure it out.
25:10
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold doesn't throw four touches and you only throws three,
25:12
Speaker 6: we win, right, I mean, there are so many ways
25:15
Speaker 6: do we win that game, And so I just I
25:18
Speaker 6: have no belief at all that he's going to repeat
25:22
Speaker 6: that performance of mistakes the next time.
25:24
Speaker 1: You take a holding penalty away and we would have
25:26
Speaker 1: had another touchdown.
25:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
25:28
Speaker 6: If the ball doesn't go out of bounds of the
25:29
Speaker 6: one on the crazy hop on a punt, we probably
25:32
Speaker 6: win that game. All right, but there's quarterback panic going
25:35
Speaker 6: all over. Believe me, I had to listen to it
25:37
Speaker 6: all drive in the Atlanta Falcons may have lost Michael
25:42
Speaker 6: Pennix Junior for the entire season. I don't know if
25:47
Speaker 6: they're so worried about Michael Pennix being gone. It looks
25:51
Speaker 6: like they're seasons lost anyway with Pennix at quarterback. But
25:55
Speaker 6: I think the bigger concern is that Michael Pennix junior
25:59
Speaker 6: has had this history, you have knee problems, and now
26:01
Speaker 6: he's going to be out for the season again. And
26:04
Speaker 6: maybe the Falcon fans are panicked that Michael Penick's junior.
26:10
Speaker 5: You know how many how many more.
26:12
Speaker 6: Injuries can he suffer to those knees that cursed him
26:16
Speaker 6: throughout his time in college, certainly while at Indiana. So
26:20
Speaker 6: where do you think the panic meter should be revving
26:22
Speaker 6: in Atlanta.
26:23
Speaker 7: Georgia today? I would imagine it's not too terribly high.
26:26
Speaker 7: I mean, I think if they if you're prone to panic,
26:29
Speaker 7: if you're one that was going to panic quickly, you
26:32
Speaker 7: will probably panic. In a couple of weeks ago, when
26:33
Speaker 7: they when their season was starting to kind of fade away,
26:38
Speaker 7: they'd lost five in a row with him at the Helm.
26:41
Speaker 7: He wasn't playing the way that he had played here, obviously,
26:44
Speaker 7: and yet, okay, that's kind of understandable. He's not like,
26:47
Speaker 7: I mean, this is his first year being the starter
26:49
Speaker 7: from the jump, and there was an inconsistencies there.
26:53
Speaker 5: I don't think it would be panic.
26:54
Speaker 7: I mean I think that, you know, for them to
26:57
Speaker 7: some degree because of the fact that nobody's kind of
27:01
Speaker 7: taken that division and ran away with it, if you
27:03
Speaker 7: were still really holding that hope there, now you're like, Okay, well,
27:06
Speaker 7: I guess it's good. We have Kirk Cousins. It's your
27:09
Speaker 7: backup is not like your typical backup. It's not somebody
27:12
Speaker 7: that doesn't have any experience, and so if you're wanting
27:15
Speaker 7: to hold on to hope, there still is something there,
27:17
Speaker 7: I don't I wouldn't panic a ton, But then again,
27:20
Speaker 7: that's just how I am.
27:21
Speaker 5: I don't panic on injuries.
27:22
Speaker 7: Injuries are inevitable, especially in the NFL, and and so
27:27
Speaker 7: I wouldn't panic a whole heck of a lot.
27:29
Speaker 5: And yet I'm sure that he.
27:31
Speaker 7: Probably has these come on knees hold up, you know,
27:33
Speaker 7: in order to in order to have an NFL career
27:36
Speaker 7: the way that he wants.
27:37
Speaker 5: He needs to be healthy.
27:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd definitely be more panicked there because of the
27:41
Speaker 1: knee history like that. The second he went down and
27:44
Speaker 1: that they said it was a knee problem, I thought, oh,
27:46
Speaker 1: oh he I mean that's not good for somebody who
27:48
Speaker 1: said two was acls.
27:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that makes me nervous.
27:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:52
Speaker 6: I put it about a five because I think they
27:54
Speaker 6: got a lot invested in this. I mean they jumped
27:57
Speaker 6: up to get him. Remember, they weren't supposed to take
28:00
Speaker 6: a quarterback Dad Kirk Cousins, remember, And so they invested
28:03
Speaker 6: a lot in this sort of this player and in
28:07
Speaker 6: a future built around this player. And so I'd be
28:12
Speaker 6: I'd be a little worried. I'd also be worried that
28:14
Speaker 6: they don't have the right head coach for him, which
28:16
Speaker 6: is something that we can talk about a little bit
28:18
Speaker 6: later on in the show. If you're the Raiders, where
28:22
Speaker 6: is your panic meter one to ten on your quarterback situation?
28:26
Speaker 5: Geno Smith?
28:27
Speaker 7: Oh well, I mean I don't even know if I'd panic,
28:29
Speaker 7: But then again, I wasn't super high on it going
28:32
Speaker 7: into it. If I mean it's he's he does Geno things,
28:35
Speaker 7: He'll throw and make some great passes and then he
28:38
Speaker 7: has maybe not four interception games. I think that the
28:42
Speaker 7: most he ever had as a Seahawk was three, And
28:44
Speaker 7: so maybe it's not as bad as what we just watched.
28:47
Speaker 7: When you know sam Donold's was ripping it, as coach
28:51
Speaker 7: McDonald called it, and he wants to keep him to
28:53
Speaker 7: keep ripping it. He just kind of dinks and dunks
28:56
Speaker 7: and then sometimes makes a bad play or a bad decision.
28:59
Speaker 7: But I mean that whole team is not very good.
29:01
Speaker 7: I'm if I'm a Raider fan or if I'm Raiders
29:04
Speaker 7: front office, I'm probably not thinking that's my biggest issue
29:08
Speaker 7: is my quarterback, even though it's to some degree you
29:12
Speaker 7: decided to go out and pay him some really good
29:14
Speaker 7: money like a franchise quarterback gets paid nowadays, and I
29:17
Speaker 7: don't know for sure if he is more than just
29:19
Speaker 7: a really good backup.
29:20
Speaker 6: I'd panic a little bit because I think you just
29:24
Speaker 6: lost a year. I think Geno Smith and Pete Carroll
29:28
Speaker 6: are neither one of them going to make it through
29:30
Speaker 6: this offseason. And so what did you gain out of year?
29:34
Speaker 6: Did you just lose a year by going in this
29:36
Speaker 6: direction because you didn't rebuild it wasn't a rebuilding year
29:40
Speaker 6: where you might learn something about the organization. You went
29:43
Speaker 6: with two old people at their jobs and you got
29:46
Speaker 6: worse somehow when you were supposed to be better. So
29:49
Speaker 6: I'd panic a little bit if I were the Raiders,
29:52
Speaker 6: But then again, I didn't have that high expectations.
29:54
Speaker 3: For them to be Hoy, I wouldn't panic. I would
29:55
Speaker 3: have already given up.
29:57
Speaker 6: All right, Coming up next tonight, it's a two Tuesday
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30:04
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30:09
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30:32
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30:34
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30:37
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30:40
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31:28
Speaker 6: College football playoff rankings come out tonight, the latest, of course,
31:32
Speaker 6: not the final, and this is really a study in
31:35
Speaker 6: you do have to truly wait until all the resumes
31:38
Speaker 6: are done, because just because one team is ahead of
31:41
Speaker 6: another team the previous week, then you see an Oklahoma
31:45
Speaker 6: beat in Alabama, and that could really shake things up
31:49
Speaker 6: here in the order. Alabama obviously has to come down,
31:52
Speaker 6: Oklahoma obviously has to come up. And so how is
31:56
Speaker 6: that going to reflect itself tonight in the college football
32:00
Speaker 6: playoff rankings. Well, Heather Dinich was on this morning and
32:03
Speaker 6: she's great, and she said that she thinks that Oklahoma
32:08
Speaker 6: not only jumps ahead of Alabama, that they both have
32:11
Speaker 6: to be ahead of Notre Dame. So that's an interesting
32:14
Speaker 6: twist because Notre Dame just kept on climbing, and yet
32:17
Speaker 6: people who are looking at the entirety of the resume
32:21
Speaker 6: are noting that, man, they really don't have that many
32:24
Speaker 6: impressive wins this year because of their independent status. They
32:28
Speaker 6: do have a couple, so they're going to make the
32:30
Speaker 6: tournament as long as they went out, but win in
32:33
Speaker 6: Oklahoma and is sitting there with the same amount of
32:38
Speaker 6: losses and now has wins over Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina,
32:43
Speaker 6: and Michigan for goodness sake, and in Alabama, who loses
32:47
Speaker 6: and falls off their perch at number four, but still
32:51
Speaker 6: has wins over LSU, South Carolina, Tennessee, Missouri, Vanderbilt, and Georgia.
32:57
Speaker 6: Those resumes are just more impressive overall the Notre Dame.
33:00
Speaker 6: So if Notre Dame has to drop a spot just
33:04
Speaker 6: to make room for Alabama and Oklahoma, who collided at
33:08
Speaker 6: this moment in time with better resumes than Notre Dame,
33:11
Speaker 6: then that's what she thinks is going to be revealed tonight.
33:15
Speaker 7: It'll be I mean, I think it'd be wrong if
33:18
Speaker 7: Notre Dame is ahead of Alabama even though Alabama just dropped.
33:21
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that would be wrong. I mean,
33:23
Speaker 7: I think Oklahoma does jump ahead, should jump ahead of them.
33:28
Speaker 7: It's not going to be by a bunch, maybe a
33:30
Speaker 7: spot or two, probably right behind them, and then Notre
33:34
Speaker 7: Dame right behind them, because Notre Dame really, I mean,
33:37
Speaker 7: who have they beat?
33:38
Speaker 5: USC?
33:38
Speaker 7: Is that the best win that they have on their schedule?
33:41
Speaker 5: USC? And now Pitt and yeah.
33:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I guess yeah, And so I mean to me,
33:48
Speaker 7: Notre Dame is playing with fire when it comes to
33:51
Speaker 7: sitting with two losses because they are kind of at
33:54
Speaker 7: the mercy of they're not going to have any games
33:57
Speaker 7: that are going to catapult them up and was minds.
34:00
Speaker 7: And yet if people above them fall like Alabama, but
34:04
Speaker 7: because of Alabama beating Georgia and all the other teams
34:07
Speaker 7: you just mentioned, they shouldn't fall below a team that
34:09
Speaker 7: hasn't played even close to the same schedule.
34:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's probably gonna shift Notre Dame down a notch.
34:15
Speaker 6: So I would expect Ohio stay one, Indiana two, Texas
34:18
Speaker 6: A and M three Georgia four. That's practically a given
34:21
Speaker 6: for tonight's College Football Playoff rankings. The eight people as
34:26
Speaker 6: the next spot going to ole Miss, but it's going
34:30
Speaker 6: to be Texas Tech because that's where the College Football
34:33
Speaker 6: Playoff Rankings had them last week. I would imagine Texas
34:36
Speaker 6: Tech stays five, Ole Miss six, Oregon seven, Oklahoma eight,
34:41
Speaker 6: Alabama nine, Notre Dame falls.
34:43
Speaker 5: From nine to ten.
34:44
Speaker 3: Just knock them off the whole thing.
34:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, let's just kop them out of the top.
34:48
Speaker 5: That happened. I wish it would number eleven then would
34:51
Speaker 5: be your ACC.
34:53
Speaker 6: Right now, they're giving that to Miami even though they're
34:55
Speaker 6: not atop the ACC standings.
34:57
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna need a.
34:58
Speaker 6: New number twelve because we had FCS upheaval last week
35:05
Speaker 6: with South Florida losing the Navy. So there'll be a
35:07
Speaker 6: new team in that spot. Maybe it's finally James Madison.
35:10
Speaker 6: So that's what you can expect tonight. We'll talk to
35:12
Speaker 6: Rick new Isiel certainly about it today at nine o'clock
35:15
Speaker 6: and we will recap our findings tomorrow morning on the
35:19
Speaker 6: radio program. But it is a college Football Playoff ranking Tuesday,
35:24
Speaker 6: so that will be this evening. I think four thirty
35:26
Speaker 6: is when they are doing it headlines next, plus Greg
35:28
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