Latest / Chuck Douglas / Principal doesn't allow police into middle school for bomb threat
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's very rare, very rare, very very rare that I
- 0:05Speaker 1: would just open up a microphone and call for the
- 0:09Speaker 1: firing of someone, a loss of livelihood for someone. But
- 0:16Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going to happen today, and I have
- 0:18Speaker 1: a feeling you're going to have a few opinions on it.
- 0:19Speaker 1: So again, a two to one WTV and is the number.
- 0:23Speaker 1: There's a pretty good chance you will want to use that. Also,
- 0:27Speaker 1: if I get a chance before I get out of here.
- 0:29Speaker 1: All the lefties that were up in arms over Donald
- 0:31Speaker 1: Trump tease, and he was teasing about a third term,
- 0:38Speaker 1: I have a feeling, just a feeling, mind you, that
- 0:44Speaker 1: some of them may be changing their minds in the
- 0:46Speaker 1: very near future. Not because of the possibility of a
- 0:53Speaker 1: Donald Trump third term, because we know he's too old.
- 0:57Speaker 1: He knows he's too old, because the abolishing of the
- 1:03Speaker 1: twenty second Amendment that prohibits such things from happening. Perhaps
- 1:10Speaker 1: they found a way where that can work to their advantage.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I'm just saying I will explain that to you before
- 1:19Speaker 1: we get out of here, if I have the opportunity. Now,
- 1:22Speaker 1: who do I think should be fired? The principal at
- 1:28Speaker 1: Columbus City school's Ridgeview Middle School. I also I wouldn't
- 1:34Speaker 1: disagree with the possibility of some disciplinary action toward the
- 1:40Speaker 1: secretary at Ridgeview Middle School. This incident happened all the
- 1:46Speaker 1: way back in March. I don't know why we're just
- 1:49Speaker 1: hearing about it. Frankly, if I were a part of
- 1:54Speaker 1: the City of Columbus, the Department of Public Safety, the
- 1:58Speaker 1: Columbus Police Department, I think I would have brought this
- 2:02Speaker 1: out quickly because this is an affront to common sense.
- 2:10Speaker 1: March thirteenth was the date when Columbus Police responded to
- 2:15Speaker 1: Ridgeview Middle School. They weren't there to see what was
- 2:19Speaker 1: on the menu for lunch that day. They were there
- 2:22Speaker 1: because of a potential threat to the students, to the school,
- 2:25Speaker 1: to the staff, to the faculty in the way of
- 2:29Speaker 1: a bomb bomb bomb. What the police officer encountered in
- 2:38Speaker 1: arriving at the school. We can begin with the word
- 2:44Speaker 1: ridiculous and elaborate from there. Both B and s apply
- 2:49Speaker 1: to this story. Speaking of B and s, I've got
- 2:52Speaker 1: FOP Lodge number nine President Brian Steel standing by right now. Brian, this.
- 3:00Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Chuck, Thanks for having me brother.
- 3:04Speaker 1: This is just stupid, man. This, and she should be fired.
- 3:07Speaker 1: If she has not been fired, this principle should be fired.
- 3:11Speaker 1: When your bias, when your Karen card gets in the
- 3:16Speaker 1: way of the common sense element of protecting the students
- 3:21Speaker 1: in that school, you have no place in that school
- 3:24Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's trouble. Remember the school called the officers these comments,
- 3:29Speaker 2: division of police officers. They're responding to a call to service,
- 3:32Speaker 2: a bomb threat from the school. And it's my understanding
- 3:36Speaker 2: talking to these officers, this isn't the first interaction they
- 3:38Speaker 2: had with this specific principle.
- 3:40Speaker 1: At this school, and there was the body cam was running,
- 3:43Speaker 1: So I mean, there's no doubt as to the way
- 3:45Speaker 1: that the officer was treated in the way the situation
- 3:48Speaker 1: was handled. Winning ride.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's exactly right. So, I mean, so
- 3:53Speaker 2: just a couple of things here. The main concern here,
- 3:56Speaker 2: obviously for our members, is her behavior appeared hot stolen.
- 4:01Speaker 2: I asked a question, does she have some kind of
- 4:03Speaker 2: inputs to bias, some kind of disdain. If so, why
- 4:06Speaker 2: she was very alarming. She kept repeating herself saying, district protocol,
- 4:11Speaker 2: district protocol hinders these officers from coming. I simply don't
- 4:15Speaker 2: buy that I wrote a statement. I myself has responded
- 4:19Speaker 2: to dozens of runs to schools. Our officers every day
- 4:22Speaker 2: respond to runs for schools. We have a great relationship
- 4:24Speaker 2: with the faculty, the staff, the janitors, the students, the principles.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Most likely this is an outlier, and I hope the
- 4:31Speaker 2: school board and the superintendent just look into it.
- 4:33Speaker 1: And the principle continued to say that she is adhering
- 4:36Speaker 1: to Columbus City Schools protocols. You address the superintendent of
- 4:40Speaker 1: the schools and got back basically a half assed reply
- 4:43Speaker 1: from the schools taking no stand, not citing any specific
- 4:48Speaker 1: protocols or anything else. What exactly did the school superintendent
- 4:51Speaker 1: had to say?
- 4:52Speaker 2: So I have not got a reply back from the
- 4:54Speaker 2: school superintendent. I will give her some grace. I'll tell
- 4:57Speaker 2: you anytime I send a letter, I email letter and
- 5:00Speaker 2: I send one by mail. The email goes to a
- 5:03Speaker 2: generic email, so I cannot tell you if she got
- 5:06Speaker 2: it or not. I know there was some kind of
- 5:08Speaker 2: statement that they were going to work with the Division
- 5:10Speaker 2: of Police, which is great. So again, I'll give the
- 5:13Speaker 2: superintendent some time, and I hope, I hope that she
- 5:16Speaker 2: replies to email all I'm looking for her to say,
- 5:18Speaker 2: is hey, we acknowledge you FOP and we are looking
- 5:21Speaker 2: into them.
- 5:21Speaker 1: You know, don't want to divert from the main issue here.
- 5:25Speaker 1: But that's also stupid, Brian. Look, you're the superintendent of
- 5:29Speaker 1: the school, you're the president of the city council, you're
- 5:31Speaker 1: the mayor of the city. You're the chief of police,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you're the FOP president. You're the head of Department of
- 5:37Speaker 1: Public Safety, you're the chief of the fire department. Whatever.
- 5:41Speaker 1: You guys should all have direct communications with one another.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Sending to a generic email. I'm sorry, but the police department,
- 5:49Speaker 1: the FOP should not be relegated to some generic email
- 5:52Speaker 1: and hope they get a response.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, I'm not going to disagree. I think
- 5:56Speaker 2: any elected official, any public official, you should have direct access.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Some individuals are more hard to get to any others.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I applaud anybody that has their email out there. You
- 6:05Speaker 2: can go right to FLP dot org. You'll get my
- 6:07Speaker 2: email be steal at FLP nine dot org and my
- 6:10Speaker 2: direct phone call. And I give myself phone out to everybody,
- 6:13Speaker 2: and I could just focus on myself. I'm always available.
- 6:15Speaker 1: I'm not hard to find now again, this officer showed
- 6:18Speaker 1: up at the school and with the body came running.
- 6:20Speaker 1: You can hear what the principal is say and at
- 6:22Speaker 1: one point says, I personally do not feel comfortable even
- 6:25Speaker 1: speaking to you because of the way you do not
- 6:29Speaker 1: have my safety in mind. What I can't even translate
- 6:35Speaker 1: that intoto basic sense. What do you have any idea
- 6:39Speaker 1: what she was implying there? Have you? Has this woman
- 6:42Speaker 1: been arrested, has she been handcuffed at the side of
- 6:44Speaker 1: the road for duy has What experience does she have
- 6:47Speaker 1: with the police department that would lead her to say,
- 6:50Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe you have my safety.
- 6:52Speaker 2: In mind, So that that's interesting to say that. And
- 6:55Speaker 2: I say this not not to be rumor spread or
- 6:58Speaker 2: not to be the gossip queen. I leave as you know, Chuck, transparency, accountability.
- 7:03Speaker 2: If you're a public official, there's no more transparency you
- 7:07Speaker 2: could be than what we put out there, and you
- 7:09Speaker 2: have to be A quick search showed two years ago
- 7:12Speaker 2: she was arrested by the Columbus Division of Police for
- 7:15Speaker 2: assault in domestic violence. She was arrested, she was taken
- 7:18Speaker 2: to jail, so clearly her past two years ago, she
- 7:21Speaker 2: clearly has a disdain for law enforcement and that came
- 7:24Speaker 2: through that day. So again, this is all public record.
- 7:27Speaker 2: She's a government employee. I see no need to hide that.
- 7:30Speaker 2: I don't know for a fact is that why she
- 7:32Speaker 2: acted it that day, but my experience says that's probably why.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Is the FOP going to pursue this any further than
- 7:38Speaker 1: just asking for clarification on Columbus City Schools policies and protocols.
- 7:43Speaker 1: I mean, are is any sort of repercussion within the
- 7:48Speaker 1: purview of what you do as a president or do
- 7:50Speaker 1: you just bring it to light and let them handle
- 7:52Speaker 1: it and accept what comes down.
- 7:54Speaker 2: So it's going to be a wait and see. I'm
- 7:57Speaker 2: going to give them time to come back. If they
- 7:59Speaker 2: come back, if this well work comes back and says
- 8:01Speaker 2: even though she did this, even though she blatantly lied,
- 8:04Speaker 2: she said, there's a policy and windows policy. We're not
- 8:06Speaker 2: going to do anything about it. Then all we could
- 8:09Speaker 2: do is ask again, hey, can you review this again?
- 8:11Speaker 2: Could you look into this? I mean, there's almost so
- 8:13Speaker 2: much we could do. Uh, there's a there's a famous
- 8:16Speaker 2: saying that I love that that labor succeeds when management fails.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I'm ultimately going to let CPD try to try to
- 8:23Speaker 2: run with this and be the ones to try to
- 8:25Speaker 2: figure this out. But we would love to sit down
- 8:27Speaker 2: and be a part of that meeting. All we want
- 8:29Speaker 2: to make sure is this doesn't happen again again. I
- 8:31Speaker 2: think this is an outlier. My experience, my members experience
- 8:35Speaker 2: with the school from the I'll say, the rank and
- 8:38Speaker 2: file of the school have been nothing but positive.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I'm I'm very dessertive. Maybe it's because you know, I've
- 8:44Speaker 1: raised my kids, I've got grandkids in schools, and you know,
- 8:49Speaker 1: last week we had a statement from the superintendent about
- 8:52Speaker 1: addressing children by their birth names, and so this is
- 8:56Speaker 1: way bigger than that crap. I mean, this is this
- 8:59Speaker 1: is something where if something God forbid would have actually happened,
- 9:04Speaker 1: if there was actually an explosive device, if children were
- 9:07Speaker 1: actually harmed or killed, this principle should have been on
- 9:11Speaker 1: the hook for a criminally negligent homicide or something. You
- 9:15Speaker 1: are causing that by your own bias, your own ridiculous fears.
- 9:20Speaker 1: When a public servant comes to the door to bring
- 9:23Speaker 1: assistance of some sort, you don't turn them away because
- 9:27Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with them. It's just it's a sad
- 9:30Speaker 1: statement on where we are these days.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Yeah, and everything you said you hit that, you hit
- 9:35Speaker 2: the nail on the head. Listen as the FOP, as
- 9:38Speaker 2: the president, I don't get involved in what books are
- 9:40Speaker 2: in a library. I don't get involved in what pronouns
- 9:42Speaker 2: you're doing. That's not my problem. What I worried about
- 9:45Speaker 2: is the safety of the kids, the safety of the
- 9:47Speaker 2: community we serve, and the safety of our officers. And again,
- 9:49Speaker 2: this individual had no authority to hinder an obstruct an
- 9:52Speaker 2: officer in the performance of his duties. And I thought
- 9:55Speaker 2: the officer did a good job. He could have probably
- 9:57Speaker 2: walked her out there in handcuffs and he wouldn't be wrong.
- 10:00Speaker 2: But again he ended up leaving, and they sent it
- 10:03Speaker 2: up the chain of command. I hope the chain of command,
- 10:05Speaker 2: the chief of police, will look into this and take
- 10:07Speaker 2: care of it. I have faith and superintendent until I
- 10:11Speaker 2: lose faith. So right now I'm really hoping I get
- 10:13Speaker 2: a letter back and they're going to look into this
- 10:15Speaker 2: and hold this public official accountable.
- 10:18Speaker 1: This officer really should get a rib in our medal
- 10:20Speaker 1: or something. Really, he maintained himself far better than I.
- 10:25Speaker 1: There's no way I could have dealt with that ridiculousness
- 10:28Speaker 1: without losing my cool, and he held himself together. So
- 10:32Speaker 1: my commendations to him, if you ever run across him,
- 10:36Speaker 1: pass that all.
- 10:36Speaker 2: I will I will tell go ahead absolutely, no I
- 10:40Speaker 2: say this. Our officers deal with this all the time.
- 10:43Speaker 2: It's just ironic. The individuals will call the police and
- 10:45Speaker 2: we get there and all of a sudden, we're the
- 10:47Speaker 2: ones they're giving grief to or yelling at. It's like
- 10:50Speaker 2: you called me, if you don't like the police, why'd
- 10:52Speaker 2: you even call me in the first place. But again,
- 10:53Speaker 2: we're always going to respond. We're going to do the
- 10:55Speaker 2: best job we can and we're going to try to
- 10:57Speaker 2: make sure everybody leaves safe. And then they did at
- 10:59Speaker 2: the end of the day. And thankfully this was on
- 11:02Speaker 2: this one time. This was a threat that was false.
- 11:05Speaker 2: It was a student, and that student's probably gonna go
- 11:08Speaker 2: through a disciplinary process.
- 11:09Speaker 1: I would hope before before I say goodbye to you,
- 11:11Speaker 1: anything good going on with the FOP with our Columbus
- 11:14Speaker 1: Police officers. We should know.
- 11:15Speaker 2: About tomorrow five thirty. We're gonna FLP's get to present
- 11:20Speaker 2: the check. And we talked about this to the White
- 11:22Speaker 2: Hole Girl Scout Troupe. They fell short despite their cookie
- 11:26Speaker 2: sale efforts, so we're gonna go ahead and fill that gap.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Our FOP members are our mental women of the Charnard Police.
- 11:32Speaker 2: They dug deep in our pockets. So I'm happy to
- 11:34Speaker 2: say these little girls will be going to Disney World,
- 11:36Speaker 2: So that's outstanding. We need some chaperones, Chuck, if you
- 11:39Speaker 2: want to come, you want to bring Blazer with us,
- 11:41Speaker 2: let's go down there.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Blazer and I are kind of like animated characters,
- 11:45Speaker 1: so we might fit right in at Disney.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Yeah, go to dress you up as Goofy and him
- 11:49Speaker 2: is Daisy.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Always good to hear from you, Brian Steele, and keep
- 11:53Speaker 1: me up to date on this thing man, as it
- 11:54Speaker 1: transpires and develops positively or negatively, because I don't want
- 11:58Speaker 1: to let this go this this Our children have too
- 12:00Speaker 1: many risks, too many fears, too many dangers in the
- 12:03Speaker 1: world today. Your school principal should not be one of them.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Yeah, hey man, brother, thank you for all you do.