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Linda Harvey: Parents! Resist Rainbows & Pride And Marketing Of Evil · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to Worldview Matters.
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  Discussing controversial issues.
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  Discerning current events.
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  Defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic.
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  Off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fiorazzo.
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  Friends, family in Christ, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode and for sharing the podcast.
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  And as always, we appreciate your prayers.
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  We talk about so many important issues, and it's just nonstop what Bible-believing Christians should be up to speed on.
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  Of course, you've got to be rooted and grounded in the truth of God's Word.
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  But with that biblical worldview, we have to know how to respond to what's happening in our culture, in our country, right around us, in our communities, locally.
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  And there's a lot of demonic agendas going on.
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  And the push for the Rainbow Pride Month and the LGBTQ agenda, that is one of those things.
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  that we need to be better at addressing and warning about.
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  Well, I'm going to bring in Linda Harvey of Mission America.
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  She's back with us.
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  The website is missionamerica.com.
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  She's got a brand new book out, and this is a workbook, which I can't wait to talk about, Rainbows and Pride.
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  What's really true about Rainbows and Pride?
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  Linda, thank you so much for your time, and congrats on the book.
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  Love it.
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  Great.
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  I'm so glad to be with you, David.
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  Thank you so much.
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  And we're so excited about this book.
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  Yes.
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  And you've been writing about this and speaking about this for a long time.
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  You're in Ohio.
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  You know, every state has their issues with the government run schools and this agenda.
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  So maybe we should start with what is the audience for the book?
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  What are you hoping to get it?
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  Obviously, Christian families.
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  But what is there a specific audience for the book?
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  Well, yeah, it's mainly for students ages nine to roughly 13.
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  I mean, it would be good for any high school or two if they would sit down and do it because it's gives the overview of a Christian, a presentation of Christian marriage, sexuality, and then kind of a
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  quick outline of the lgbtq agenda at a very age-appropriate level we don't get into it too heavily but talking about the use of the rainbow the misuse rainbow talking about the use of the word pride which god hates pride and we explain uh what that is and we provide scripture all throughout or we cite the scripture reference and the kids can then
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  I'll look that up.
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  And there's a spot on each page for kids to write down their thoughts, you know, when they discover what they've found in scripture and their own ideas as they respond.
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  But, you know, yeah, the audience is, I think it would be very, very useful for any student, but particularly for those in public schools.
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  Okay.
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  Let me follow up on that a little bit.
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  There's a little article on your website that says Rainbows and Pride Parent, Grandparent, and Teacher Guide.
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  And this is available at missionamerica.com.
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  It's through Lighthouse Trails, which is a great organization.
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  Let me ask you about that, though.
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  You mentioned age appropriate.
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  I think you said starting around age nine for parents or grandparents maybe to get this and use this maybe at home.
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  But...
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  In the schools, the left, those who would push demonic agendas, the LGBTQ and their minions, they're reaching kids at younger and younger ages.
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  So they don't care what age appropriate is.
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  Can you speak to that for a moment and help us understand?
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  I know Christian families maybe want to wait a little bit longer to talk about these things, but they're getting bombarded with it through social media, Hollywood, and at school.
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  Go ahead, Linda.
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  Well, again, depending on the maturity level of your child, I think people can decide they want to order the book and then take pieces and parts of it for the young child and then wait till they're a little older.
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  I mean, I think it's fine for a mature, well-grounded child earlier than that.
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  But when you're talking about the specifics of this agenda and the...
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  You know, we go through a little bit, we just say, you know, you may have heard of pride parades.
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  Okay, what would you do if a friend of yours asked you to go to one of these parades where
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  where you have people that are dressed as the opposite sex, like we say the word drag queens, the phrase drag queens.
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  Do you think that a man dressing as a woman is appropriate?
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  It is not fine.
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  And people should not be cheering for this.
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  That's essentially our message.
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  We don't go into any more detail.
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  We don't talk about the nudity that you'll find in a pride parade.
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  So, you know, people have to decide, you know, a lot of kids will be able to handle this, but we don't give everything, but we give just enough so that, because I think kids are.
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  tuned in to the culture around them.
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  They know that they're seeing rainbows that aren't used the way rainbows are used in their little preschool books.
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  That aren't used on their toys, aren't used in their media, although sometimes today in their media it is used for the LGBTQ agenda, but they know there's something wrong with this.
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  And so, but they want a little bit more detail.
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  And so this is a way to introduce them to the idea of God's standards, how God is probably displeased with the theft of the rainbow.
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  Yes.
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  How he created marriage and family.
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  And men and women as distinctly different humans to marry when they grow up and raise families.
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  And isn't that a wonderful thing?
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  So we go through all of that, but at the right points, we introduce the idea of how this agenda is being presented.
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  And it is an agenda, and it has been far too successful in the last, I don't know how many decades, we can say at this point.
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  But as we're doing this interview, this podcast, this is coming out in mid-October.
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  Unfortunately, October is known as Pride Month, LGBTQ History Month.
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  So in most schools, they're talking about this from a different way that the biblical worldview would support or the Bible would support, not like God ordains the rainbow and uses it as a covenant, not to flood the earth again.
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  But let's talk about many schools and libraries.
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  Also...
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  have observed banned books week the first week in October.
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  And this is apart from schools now, Lynn, and you can talk about whatever aspect of this you'd like, but the American Library Association has an annual campaign, you write, to intimidate parents into remaining silent about some of the highly offensive titles promoted to children and teenagers.
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  Talk to us about this because we've heard a lot about schools for a long time, especially the audience and listeners and viewers of this podcast.
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  We've had Alex Newman, Heidi St. John, Sam Sorbo and so many others on to talk about this issue.
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  But what about libraries?
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  Talk to us a little bit about about Band Books Week and what we need to know about that.
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  Right.
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  Well, so by the time you, as you said, by the time you broadcast this, it'll be just over, except that that campaign is pretty much all year in the libraries.
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  It is so deceptive because what they're doing is they're capitalizing on the idea that we all kind of grew up with and people are learning about now is how the Nazis were book burners.
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  And now that gets confusing because some of the left...
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  like Nazis now all of a sudden, and they're anti-Semitism.
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  But that's another whole rabbit trail we won't go down.
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  So we've got Banned Books Week implying that conservatives or Christians or any parent that would dare object to, you know,
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  homosexual and heterosexual hookups in your child's reading material with very graphic descriptions and all the other nonsense that you see publishers putting before children.
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  How dare you object to that?
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  You're just like a Nazi book banner when the reality is that
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  quietly behind the scenes every single day, it's the librarians and sometimes teachers job, to ban books.
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  They choose some and some lessons and they ban others, ban, unquote.
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  So, you know, they're they're just being disingenuous.
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  They want to highlight parents or conservatives who may object to some of this.
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  And so much of it is the left wing agenda in these in these publications.
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  The other thing is that there's sensational material in
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  these books and that sells.
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  So you've got publishers who don't have the framework they used to have thinking to themselves, boy, if we put this out there, parents might object.
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  Parents are not objecting, or at least they weren't.
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  Now, in the last few years, we have many more brave parents stepping up.
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  I think we're getting a window where parents are getting more guts and there's more organizations behind them to really call some of this out.
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  And thankfully, not enough, but some parents are showing up to school board meetings and they're speaking out.
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  And some of them are getting cut off or censored just for sharing what the kids can access in the school library or what's in the curriculum.
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  I've seen some amazing stuff, Linda.
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  This is really frustrating to a lot of Christian parents.
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  They want to speak out, but they're thinking they're just going to silence me.
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  at the foundation of spiritual battle, we know that.
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  So I want to talk a little bit more about what you're seeing because parents have not generally been up to speed on things until it's too late, up until maybe recent years, as you said.
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  Can you give me another example of what you might be seeing as far as pushback or maybe, because the left is not going to relent on their agenda.
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  They're going to push it no matter what.
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  They'll just find different ways to,
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  But I do agree with you that more Christians and parents are trying to speak out, whether that be through school board meetings, nonprofits, just raising awareness on social media.
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  Go ahead and speak to that aspect and what parents can do.
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  Well, parents can continue to attend school board meetings and keep up with what's going on, especially with their children.
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  And I'm talking public schools, the Christian schools and homeschooling.
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  You also have to watch the Christian schools, unfortunately.
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  Now, not in every case, of course, it's much more likely to be a safe environment if you are talking about morality.
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  But not always.
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  You're getting some of these teachers are trained in the same environment.
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  the same teacher training programs as the secular teachers are.
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  So you really have to keep your eyes on that as well.
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  But as far as what parents can do, they can opt their children out, send letters to your teacher, the teachers in your child's class,
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  Make sure that they know that you do not want your child to go over any books in class.
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  Sometimes the teachers have their own little library at the elementary school level or middle school level in the English language arts class.
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  And they will assign that right there, hand it out or allow children to choose it.
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  So parents, the oversight of the big library is not there.
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  So this is something to watch for.
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  So, again, write a letter, opt your children out, say, I do not want my child to read any of this material.
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  And that should not be an issue.
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  But I've read or I've heard in recent years, some schools push back on that, on parents simply trying to opt their kids out of something that's offensive.
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  What do you know about that?
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  Is that that's a state state issue, right?
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  States will have different laws and policies allowing parents to review the curriculum if they request to do so.
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  We do have one law like that in Ohio and that.
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  But the problem is, is now parents are getting more specific in what they're saying.
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  And it's again, it'll be often it's the sexuality issues, the LGBTQ.
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  And of course, many of these educators are so left wing and they do not want to to deal with that.
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  But they also are will cite their own.
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  School wide, school district wide, non-discrimination policies, which include sexual orientation and gender identity.
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  Yeah.
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  So you get that issue in there.
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  And so but the the fact of you even.
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  doing that opting out and sending that notification by email is a really positive thing.
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  The more times parents push back on this, the more times we will have much more ammunition, much more of a solid,
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  I don't coalition that continues to say we've had it.
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  The other thing is we've got some good Supreme Court cases.
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  Now the Mahmood case that was decided last year about the parents in Maryland having a right to review on a for a religious basis.
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  on a religious basis, and not every parent is going to have objections based on religion, but most, of course, your audience mostly will.
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  You know, the parents have a right, U.S. Supreme Court, to look at these cases.
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  I know it was wonderful.
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  We've had some really good Supreme Court cases in the last few years.
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  So there's that as well.
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  Yes, I mean, that should be, to us, it's common sense to say, don't sexualize my children outside of our home.
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  Let us teach them about marriage, God-ordained marriage between one man and one woman, about biblical sexuality and from God's Word.
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  But I want to ask you about something and see if the tide is shifting a little bit.
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  I've been reading articles or seeing certain headlines about more young people, maybe—
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  Getting disillusioned with the whole, you know, Rainbow Mafia and the LGBTQ and maybe the word identify.
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  Are more kids identifying as LGBTQ today or are there less?
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  Do you know the roughly the percentages in the last maybe couple of years?
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  Because I hear that's decreasing, but I want to hear it from you.
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  Well, the biggest indicator that we have, the biggest survey, is the 9th through 12th grade high schoolers who are surveyed every two years by the Centers for Disease Control.
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  And it's called the Youth Risk Behavior Survey.
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  And they have a whole range of questions on there, everything from drugs to dangerous behavior.
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  And then they have sexuality issues, but they also have...
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  a place where you declare this is terrible that they're doing this, but at least we have this information.
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  Well, they will say, do you think of yourself as heterosexual, gay, lesbian, or you're not sure?
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  They don't talk about on that survey yet, transgender.
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  But what's happened is since like 2011, this number of kids that have said they were lesbian, gay, bisexual, or questioning has risen steadily until last year.
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  And it was almost at one out of four high schoolers.
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  And now it's like, I think it's like 40,000 kids are pregnant.
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  in major cities.
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  So the major cities are not going to reflect everybody.
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  Yeah.
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  But it reflects quite a few folks in across the nation and trends.
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  Yeah.
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  And so that was very discouraging.
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  And what happened was.
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  In the latest survey, which was for the year 2024, I think, and then they put it out last year 2025.
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  it dropped, especially among ninth grade girls.
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  And what was happening is that a lot of these girls, I think it's peer pressure, it's not the absence of an opposing worldview, absence of pastors and youth pastors, training kids to deal with this, the absence of things like my book, self-promotion here, but that's the reason I wrote it, is to fill this gap of knowledge.
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  Thank you.
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  It's gone down because so many of these girls were saying they were bisexual.
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  And of course, many of this was just kids talking.
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  By the time they got into college, they weren't really going down this road.
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  But some of them were and more were.
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  And all of it points to the fact that it's all been promotion and popularity.
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  So if we get the popularity to decline...
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  We'll get the experimentation and the loss of the connection to the Lord and respect for his standards and going along with what he's saying, which, again, we need pastors.
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  We need churches to fill in this gap.
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  Stop remaining silent.
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  But to do that in the interim, there are many of us in these parachurch ministries filling in the gaps, and my book helps do that, I think.
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  So let's emphasize the fact that 50 to 75 years ago, when my great-grandparents' day, this was not an issue.
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  There was no confusion over marriage, over sexuality, over identity.
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  This was not an issue.
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  More people believed that human beings were made in the image of God, created in the image of God.
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  This is evil.
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  It's the marketing of evil.
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  Right?
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  This is good marketing.
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  When I say good, I'm not giving them credit.
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  I'm saying it's evil, it's deceptive, it's just purposely trying to deceive kids and recruit the LGBTQ.
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  They cannot reproduce, so they have to recruit.
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  This is the marketing of evil, friends.
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  We have to understand that.
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  And they're going after children, the easiest target.
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  And they're accessing, and that shouldn't be, but it's true.
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  They are able to access kids through social media, through their friends, through everything else.
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  But now in the public schools, it's been going on.
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  So let's bring it back to the church, Linda.
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  You mentioned it.
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  So generally, pastors and churches have not been competent, done a good job of teaching the truth from the biblical worldview on marriage.
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  First of all, God is creator, male and female, then marriage—
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  family, sexuality, biblical sexuality as a whole.
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  And so families cannot have a good biblical understanding on how to respond to the culture and how to respond to this onslaught of marketing for homosexuality and gay, lesbian, transgender agenda.
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  So as far as children, as far as Christian families, I know your workbook will be tremendously helpful, but could you speak to maybe how
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  Pastors and churches can do a better job of equipping the saints, addressing this and helping their congregations.
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  Yeah, the issue is that there's a couple of things that happen.
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  First, it's silence.
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  They're just not dealing with it.
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  And if they teach from Scripture, and it happens to be Romans 1, for instance, and it's in there, they may go ahead and affirm it and then move on quickly.
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  They don't give any depth.
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  Even when they do deal with it, there's no depth.
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  They're not equipping their youth, especially need this, and their youth groups.
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  They could do this.
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  because they could easily, because it's a smaller group, that they could do it in small groups of adults as well, or they could do it from the pulpit.
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  That's what they should do.
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  They should not be ashamed.
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  Also, read the other part of Romans 1.
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  I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and everything it teaches, because it is effective and it is useful and it is good for the equipping of the saints.
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  We have to get into the depth of addressing what the culture is lying about.
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  Are people born this way?
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  What's the evidence?
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  You don't have to get very deep into that factual issue.
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  The pastors don't have to, I know they're busy,
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  But you don't have to get very deep into all of the studies that have been done and have purported this and that that show basically nothing.
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  There's only there's a couple of big ones out there that can give you the ammunition you need, that there's no solid evidence of this at all.
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  Tons of ex-homosexuals.
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  We also have a page on that in this book.
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  Oh, that's good.
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  We have pages on marriage and, you know, male and female designed by God and all that.
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  But, yeah, they need to get into more depth when they do address it.
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  But first of all, they have to address it.
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  You know, they have to get into this issue.
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  So I just want to quote from this article on your website, what's really true about Rainbows and Pride, about your new book, and then we'll move on.
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  But it said that you witnessed and documented the tremendous damage LGBTQ proponents are inflicting upon unprepared children and families using the schools as their primary venue for grooming and indoctrination.
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  And you said, my heart is broken.
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  over the young lives that have fallen prey to this deception.
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  And that's what compels you, if I'm not mistaken, to continue to speak out on this, to continue to write on this.
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  And now we have a workbook, uh, what's really true about rainbows and pride.
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  So thank you, Linda.
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  I'm so glad.
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  I hope it does well.
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  I pray it does friends share this podcast and get this book.
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  It's a workbook.
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  Um, you know, homeschoolers can use it.
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  If you have children in the public schools, which that's a whole nother thing.
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  Uh,
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  We don't want to get into.
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  But final thoughts on this, Linda, because I want to ask you about a very important article you wrote about Christians and voting.
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  So final thoughts on just wrap it up on your book and getting it into Christian families' hands so they can prepare their kids.
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  Well, yes, I just urge you to get it.
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  And if you are a parent, grandparent, teacher, I've had contacts from people from Christian schools already who are going to maybe use this book.
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  They're going to look at it.
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  It's just out now, but it's available.
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  And the other thing is it's good as a group discussion.
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  So because it's the workbook format, it works out for that for middle school or even high school group discussion.
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  Thank you.
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  So missionamerica.com and lighthouseetrails.com.
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  Linda, top five reasons for Christians to vote.
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  We've got less than five minutes, so we can't get into a lot of detail.
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  But you just...
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  mainly put some bullet points and talk about America and where we're at and whether we want to preserve our republic.
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  So give us a few bullet points.
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  We will put this article in the description of the podcast.
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  But go ahead and share your heart on, I mean, we just talked about something, right, that's being, you know, promoted that we need to get more Christians and more conservatives elected and school boards and everything else.
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  Go ahead and share your thoughts about Christians and voting from this article.
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  Yeah, well, thank you.
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  I appreciate you doing this because this is hugely on my heart.
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  I pray every morning for us to I have to say, Republicans, I'm voting straight Republican.
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  No Democrats are trustworthy.
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  No libertarians, folks.
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  They don't get it.
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  They do not understand the moral issues and the protection of children.
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  If you worry about this issue or abortion, you have to get out and vote.
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  and find out which candidates are opposed to a biblical reading on that and opposed to protecting kids.
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  That's what it's coming down to.
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  Well, the real thing that motivated me as a progressive feminist agnostic, and then I became a believer and then a conservative Christian,
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  and then active in the political realm is gratitude.
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  You know, America is a huge gift to Christians worldwide.
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  It's a gift to all of us who live here, but it's a gift that we need to open and use.
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  It's like, you know, when God, you know, would hand you a beautifully wrapped gift at Christmas.
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  What if you were to just put it aside and say, oh Lord, thank you so much, but I'm too busy right now.
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  No.
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  America voting and our privilege to vote is not shared by people in other countries.
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  To protect our freedoms and elections have consequences.
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  We can see what the Donald Trump administration is doing.
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  They've just had six major children's hospitals end their gender transition program because of their pressure from the Department of Justice, their pressure through Medicare, Medicaid payments.
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  That's the kind of,
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  issue you have.
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  And it's not just federal, it's local.
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  We have state laws that have been passed to protect children against gender medical treatments.
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  That's the kind of thing that happens with elections.
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  So
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  People need to get out and vote.
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  But also it's the issue of, you know, just being involved in politics and stopping this Christian mindset of putting our heads in the sand and believing, oh, I either don't have time for that or I'm just gonna trust Jesus.
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  Well, guess what?
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  Jesus is looking for you to do some work in this world.
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  We are supposed to believe and then go and do.
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  And one of those things we do is to pull the lever on the voting booth.
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  And so that's a couple of points.
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  I know you're running out of time.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, you say some very important things in here.
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  The loss of our freedoms is a very real danger.
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  And Christian friend, if you believe that sharing the gospel is important—
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  Well, guess what?
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  The First Amendment and our free speech in America give us the ability to freely share the gospel.
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  We can't take that for granted.
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  Just look up at our northern neighbors and other places in the world.
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  And you say this, if America sinks under the weight of progressive moral sewage, lawlessness, and Marxism, it's because believers didn't act properly.
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  and vote, and then global disruption will soon follow.
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  Agreed.
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  Friends, look up that article at missionamerica.com, top five reasons for Christians to vote.
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  Also the book, Rainbows and Pride, what's really true.
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  Linda, thank you for all your work.
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  Good talking to you again, and good luck on the book.
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  God bless.
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  Thank you so much.
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  God bless you.
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  Praise God.
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  Friends, get this workbook.
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  Get it into the hands of grandparents and parents and schools.
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  God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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  See you next time.