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What's Happening at the Courthouse: A wedding deposit dispute · "What's happening at the Courthouse?" with Rameez Khan

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  Speaker 1: For some, prison is where it ends.
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  Speaker 2: For all, court is where it begins.
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  Speaker 3: This ain't no TV show. This is the real world.
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  Speaker 4: And this is what's happening at the courthouse on KFM
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  Speaker 4: Mornings with Ramiz.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm, in the main, the main.
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  Speaker 3: CBD.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: The Central Business District. That one.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say something else and then I'll go, nah,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't apply. Okay, so CBD courts, this is where Ramiz
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  Speaker 1: is wandering around asking everybody one simple question.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing at the courthouse today?
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  Speaker 6: We are processing a letter of demand for our wedding photographer.
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  Speaker 2: That sentence doesn't fit together.
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  Speaker 6: Essentially, we had to move our wedding date because of
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  Speaker 6: the war in Dubai.
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  Speaker 2: So we had to move back home.
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  Speaker 6: We asked her to move her date to another date.
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  Speaker 6: And she essentially was more concerned about our financial stability.
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  Speaker 6: And then she also said that she would not... want
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  Speaker 6: to remove the date because the war has nothing to
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  Speaker 6: do with her, to perform her services, and that it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't fall under the contract that we can't delay because
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  Speaker 6: she has a window that we can cancel or do anything.
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  Speaker 6: We asked her if we could move her, not cancel,
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  Speaker 6: and she essentially said no. She is going to keep
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  Speaker 6: our deposit, 22,000 to 25,000 rand, And that if we
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  Speaker 6: want to rebook, we need to pay a new deposit.
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  Speaker 6: But then she also argued, on the other hand, she's
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  Speaker 6: not cancelling, she's just holding us. From our side, that
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  Speaker 6: seems like a cancel. We argued that we would like
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  Speaker 6: the money back. And she said no, because we've caused
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  Speaker 6: her to lose other opportunities. Mind you, our wedding date
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  Speaker 6: was this year, December, and we let her know around May.
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  Speaker 7: Which is over enough time to find some other people
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  Speaker 7: to take photographs of.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 7: This is really not that serious. Just give me my
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  Speaker 7: money back and move on with your life.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't even ask.
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  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't even ask for the money back. We just asked,
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  Speaker 6: can you book us for.
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  Speaker 3: Next year instead?
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  Speaker 2: So which is fine.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't even want the money back. We only asked
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  Speaker 6: for the money back in the end when she essentially
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  Speaker 6: was like, no, you must do a whole new booking fee.
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  Speaker 6: You must do another 20 plus thousand rand deposit, which
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  Speaker 6: is half of her asking.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but now at the end of the day, what
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  Speaker 7: happens to your initial 22,000?
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  Speaker 6: She keeps it as like she lost other opportunities. However,
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  Speaker 6: all our other vendors, even vendors that cost double her,
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  Speaker 6: we're more than happy to move.
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  Speaker 2: Any vendor is more.
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  Speaker 7: reasonable and flexible than what this person is doing.
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  Speaker 6: We just wanted to move the date for the average
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  Speaker 6: capetonian for the average south african average person who works.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a little that's a month's salary.
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  Speaker 6: For some people that's more for me that's more than
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  Speaker 6: a monthly salary.
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  Speaker 7: She's really giving us south africans a really bad.
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  Speaker 6: Name and essentially when we emailed her the letter of
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  Speaker 6: demand what we got was like okay fine i'm ready
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  Speaker 6: to see you in court i'll defend my side so
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  Speaker 6: joking Yeah, and at the end of the day, what
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  Speaker 6: we decided is if the judge at the end of
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  Speaker 6: the day says no, she gets to keep the money.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe her contract is airtight, but it's the principle. You know,
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  Speaker 6: stand up for yourself at least. If it doesn't work
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  Speaker 6: out in the end, it doesn't work out in the end.
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  Speaker 6: It's just the way life goes.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time.
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  Speaker 7: And I hope that either you get your money back
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  Speaker 7: or she maybe gives you another date.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, anyways, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Bye-bye. Bye.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing at the courthouse today?
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  Speaker 4: Today I'm representing my child, my son. for paternity test results.
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  Speaker 7: The father of your child is asking for a paternity
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  Speaker 7: test to prove that your son is his son.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct.
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  Speaker 2: Why would he be doing that?
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  Speaker 4: He feels that this little boy is not his child
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  Speaker 4: due to deeds that he has done wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And now our son needs to go.
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  Speaker 4: Under this, sitting at the court, being pricked, which is
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  Speaker 4: not even fair. This child can't speak. He doesn't understand
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  Speaker 4: what is happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And here I am as a mother who has to
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  Speaker 4: fight for something that I know it's right.
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  Speaker 7: His father is claiming that he isn't the father of
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  Speaker 7: this child.
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  Speaker 2: Why would he say that?
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  Speaker 3: At two months, two and a half months, I was chameleon.
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  Speaker 3: And then.
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  Speaker 2: That means pregnant, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: And then... He got married.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, were you married to him?
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  Speaker 3: No, we were like four and a half years together.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, you fell pregnant. Two months later, you found out
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  Speaker 7: that you were pregnant. And then he got married to
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  Speaker 7: someone else.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct. And now the child is born, a
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  Speaker 3: year old.
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  Speaker 4: And today, paternity test results will be finalized.
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  Speaker 7: Tell us what you feel and how you feel without
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  Speaker 7: knowing the results.
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  Speaker 3: The way I feel, my dignity has been taken away.
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  Speaker 4: My name has been scarred. You're walking with a mask
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  Speaker 4: over your face.
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  Speaker 3: It's disgusting. It's just ashamed.
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  Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day, you know you
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  Speaker 7: weren't with anyone else, were with this man for four years.
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  Speaker 2: And what is he running from, though?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's running from responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only thing. After this, I will do what
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  Speaker 3: is right for me and my child.
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  Speaker 7: If somebody else is going through this out there, what
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  Speaker 7: advice would you have for them?
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  Speaker 3: Please come forward. Come and speak. Here is help. We
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  Speaker 3: need to stand together. We need to support each other.
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  Speaker 4: We have our rights and we have rights over our
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  Speaker 4: children as well.
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  Speaker 7: You can't tell me that he doesn't know that this
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  Speaker 7: is his child. All he is doing is smearing your
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  Speaker 7: name through the mud.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is exactly what he is doing now.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think that after the paternity results come.
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  Speaker 2: Out, he's going to change his mind?
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  Speaker 3: We can only hope for the best. That's all I
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  Speaker 3: can say.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time, ma'am. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a pleasure, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Bye-bye. I think that happens more often than you think.
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  Speaker 3: That's so heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. These paternity tests. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 3: But also, how crazy is that story?
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  Speaker 5: We're dating for four years.
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  Speaker 1: I fall pregnant only for you to marry somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: And deny my child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And that thing she said about dignity, because now her.
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  Speaker 8: Business is out there. Her character's been compromised. It's just,
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  Speaker 8: it's so ugly.
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  Speaker 3: It's so ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not going to be facetious here. I'm being serious.
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  Speaker 1: All right? Paternity test, you don't want to be pricking
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  Speaker 1: the babies with this stuff. The greatest paternity test you
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  Speaker 1: can have is check the toes.
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  Speaker 5: You stand by that.
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  Speaker 1: The toes. You always have your mother or your father's toes.
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  Speaker 3: True.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like I said, I'm not even being facetious.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious. Our two boys, they've got my big toe
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  Speaker 1: and my wife's baby toe.
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  Speaker 3: My boys, they've got their dad's feet, eh? Really?
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  Speaker 5: Both of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. But the toes are identified. It's like
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  Speaker 1: dental records for paternity, you know? You can check, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's my toe. That's my wife's toe. There's two more
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  Speaker 1: toes of my wife.
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  Speaker 2: Mm.
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  Speaker 6: There might be something there, but this lady, we need
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  Speaker 6: science here, Darren.
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  Speaker 3: We need science here.
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  Speaker 5: Because it's all taking you back to like your Ricky
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  Speaker 5: Lake show.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Springer.
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Springer.
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  Speaker 1: Coming out with the envelope. Here we go.
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  Speaker 5: Is he the father?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which they should have just checked the toes then.
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  Speaker 3: Check the toes.
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  Speaker 1: And it would have been a two-minute episode. Check the toes.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need to put needles in the babies. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Check the toes.
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  Speaker 5: We haven't even discussed.
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  Speaker 3: That's mine.
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  Speaker 5: The wedding photographer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What nonsense is that?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: 50 grand. 25 lost deposit, 50 balance. 25 balance, 50 total.
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  Speaker 1: For a wedding. Is that how much it costs now
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  Speaker 1: for photos for a wedding?
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 6: But also how unreasonable not to want to reschedule.
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  Speaker 5: Knowing that it was something beyond their control.
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  Speaker 1: She'll probably win. That lady is probably not going to
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  Speaker 1: win in court because that contract is probably airtight. But
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  Speaker 1: winning on the moral battlefield, you lose all day long.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not like that. Okay. That is what's happening at the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and comments? Pop it to us
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  Speaker 1: So we got your comments here from the courthouse. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to hear them.
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  Speaker 2: He needs to name the photographer.
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  Speaker 3: We need to know who that person is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a photographer and that is ridiculous. What? Are those
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  Speaker 2: photographs made out of gold?
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  Speaker 1: I think the people in Cape Town are just ripping
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  Speaker 1: us off. We're almost paying 50,000 rand just for photography
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  Speaker 1: and 25,000 rand deposit. She looks like she's doing this
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  Speaker 1: to all her customers.
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  Speaker 8: When did we become a country where people just have
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  Speaker 8: no issue ripping other people off?
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  Speaker 5: That lady with the paternity test.
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  Speaker 3: That lady with the paternity test is more to that
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  Speaker 3: story there. Something's fishy here. Two and a half months later,
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  Speaker 3: he's getting married to someone else.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Darren.
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  Speaker 5: This woman I dated like years ago, she had the
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  Speaker 5: exact same toes and the feet were like shaped exactly
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  Speaker 5: the same as her father.
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  Speaker 1: Darren, I'm so with you on the toe story.
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  Speaker 8: It's definitely in the toes because I definitely have my
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  Speaker 8: father's toes.
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  Speaker 1: I knew you were going to hang on to that. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it's fact. It's fact.
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  Speaker 8: But Ramiz, I wish you were more, you were nosier
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  Speaker 8: with regards to this new wife and wedding. Because clearly
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  Speaker 8: there's overlaps and leading a double life that was going
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  Speaker 8: on there.
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  Speaker 5: I would like to know if the two women knew
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  Speaker 5: about each other. Because four years is a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Did they see it as a contest?
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  Speaker 5: Almost like, I want to be the last woman standing.
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  Speaker 5: One got the wedding and one got the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We need a part two.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a man's life. The wedding or the baby.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Lots to think about. Lots to think about there.
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  Speaker 1: All I have now. All I have is pictures of
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  Speaker 1: people's toes on our WhatsApp telephone. And they're sending the
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  Speaker 1: adult toes and the kids toes.
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  Speaker 5: This is what I want to know, senior and junior.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 5: And also, please, don't share your toes for free.
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  Speaker 6: Please.
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  Speaker 1: You can make those with the money makers nowadays.
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  Speaker 5: Keep them in your camera roll.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You're advocating here for.
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  Speaker 3: A little OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 5: Keep your toes, please.